From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Aug 19 13:41:57 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6B70108CF3F for ; Sun, 19 Aug 2018 13:41:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: from relay2.tomsk.ru (mail.sibptus.tomsk.ru [212.73.124.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22B3E7623D for ; Sun, 19 Aug 2018 13:41:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) X-Virus-Scanned: by clamd daemon 0.100.1 for FreeBSD at relay.sibptus.ru Received: from [212.73.125.240] (HELO admin.sibptus.transneft.ru) by relay2.tomsk.ru (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.16) with ESMTPS id 40080794 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 19 Aug 2018 20:41:54 +0700 Received: from admin.sibptus.transneft.ru (sudakov@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by admin.sibptus.transneft.ru (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id w7JDfrND018905 for ; Sun, 19 Aug 2018 20:41:53 +0700 (+07) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: (from sudakov@localhost) by admin.sibptus.transneft.ru (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id w7JDfoO6018904 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 19 Aug 2018 20:41:50 +0700 (+07) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) X-Authentication-Warning: admin.sibptus.transneft.ru: sudakov set sender to vas@mpeks.tomsk.su using -f Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2018 20:41:50 +0700 From: Victor Sudakov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: The recommended LaTeX port? Message-ID: <20180819134150.GA18805@admin.sibptus.transneft.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Organization: AO "Svyaztransneft", SibPTUS X-PGP-Key: http://www.dreamwidth.org/pubkey?user=victor_sudakov X-PGP-Fingerprint: 10E3 1171 1273 E007 C2E9 3532 0DA4 F259 9B5E C634 User-Agent: Mutt/1.9.5 (2018-04-13) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2018 13:41:57 -0000 Dear Colleagues, Which is *the* \LaTeX distribution for FreeBSD currently? I remember last time I needed \LaTex around a dozen years ago, I used the teTeX port, but cannot find it now. Cyrillic support is crucial, direct output to PDF is very desirable, dependency on GUI libs and tools is not desirable. I'm especially interested in any input from actual \LaTeX users among you. Please don't advise "make search key=latex", thanks for understanding. (in a whisper) please also recommend a \LaTeX distibution for Windows... -- Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN AS43859 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Aug 19 13:53:52 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74B5B10667BF for ; Sun, 19 Aug 2018 13:53:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: from relay2.tomsk.ru (mail.sibptus.tomsk.ru [212.73.124.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C75B976F13 for ; Sun, 19 Aug 2018 13:53:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) X-Virus-Scanned: by clamd daemon 0.100.1 for FreeBSD at relay.sibptus.ru Received: from [212.73.125.240] (HELO admin.sibptus.transneft.ru) by relay2.tomsk.ru (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.16) with ESMTPS id 40080797 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 19 Aug 2018 20:53:50 +0700 Received: from admin.sibptus.transneft.ru (sudakov@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by admin.sibptus.transneft.ru (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id w7JDrnJk019000 for ; Sun, 19 Aug 2018 20:53:49 +0700 (+07) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: (from sudakov@localhost) by admin.sibptus.transneft.ru (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id w7JDrkjP018999 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 19 Aug 2018 20:53:46 +0700 (+07) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) X-Authentication-Warning: admin.sibptus.transneft.ru: sudakov set sender to vas@mpeks.tomsk.su using -f Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2018 20:53:46 +0700 From: Victor Sudakov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: The recommended LaTeX port? Message-ID: <20180819135345.GA18963@admin.sibptus.transneft.ru> References: <20180819134150.GA18805@admin.sibptus.transneft.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20180819134150.GA18805@admin.sibptus.transneft.ru> Organization: AO "Svyaztransneft", SibPTUS X-PGP-Key: http://www.dreamwidth.org/pubkey?user=victor_sudakov X-PGP-Fingerprint: 10E3 1171 1273 E007 C2E9 3532 0DA4 F259 9B5E C634 User-Agent: Mutt/1.9.5 (2018-04-13) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2018 13:53:52 -0000 Victor Sudakov wrote: > > Cyrillic support is crucial, direct output to PDF is very desirable, > dependency on GUI libs and tools is not desirable. I forgot to mention that I've tried a couple of online editors like https://www.sharelatex.com/ but they all lacked Cyrillic support miserably (Cyrillic characters either did not show in the compiled output, or showed as mojibake). -- Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN AS43859 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Aug 19 14:19:08 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C4E71069A72 for ; Sun, 19 Aug 2018 14:19:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.133]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A4D3977F82 for ; Sun, 19 Aug 2018 14:19:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([92.195.99.237]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue005 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 0Lo5Nc-1gK6QY0ZT6-00fybV; Sun, 19 Aug 2018 16:13:18 +0200 Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2018 16:13:17 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Victor Sudakov Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: The recommended LaTeX port? Message-Id: <20180819161317.9bfdac7f.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20180819134150.GA18805@admin.sibptus.transneft.ru> References: <20180819134150.GA18805@admin.sibptus.transneft.ru> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:OFe7/nEtlSok1oaJpZJ6YYgf1zbbmsKEeqKHqFHSJOqTRV/x47E Dy0WnMTugJhv7gACZ0uWkKt9vtjPNY+T+TwOYAmVf9tm3gG2UBnUadKoHHY1PpTN2jfjYDh qYqrZBOcUI9+xFh/xu78jA90/D5WvBp1IaD1VVDJazw77Klbzv1xzvXyR2CS7XQD6d3MhHB wL++qLWOQFD3IEaUggL9g== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:z2OkPznZiiM=:0J03C1H/HRO7uHfnUKwGuP lJQI7XN/5rqSOlVTH1KhV5WTNHjccKjPOCO7xEh9EyFbEBCLZ3mDNB/EVzheIl37aGIifpMrT Xh+OHTgc2FOZt4ZjSBtrk7EZ0hLAHnk1I74ytampCAPABcXysupC+f3UInHOw5++uk1f36cn3 TTCGv58l/2X2oQJQ0F44cLZ/7HBsI5i3gTLqgO0v5RAA7KeNM5oAmOTzYnBJum+8nsWn0tObk Adm3HuoHUKYBLTWwF1Xkpb5IYVbkW7Ete1UZuW4sHnxKHiDyUGD3BbmzT+ya0MjbB56fbPKz+ T8+VPYJ80Dl21XfpzdedVv1ZB9zx+vGUT9zxG7LzIyv/Xkz2lRi/u0LCAfvIUVTBeX82e9Csg i+zF2k6FR9nJbezD0hCAwbtm1lUYc7BsFfEqTEinzUVu0u8K3EUhSNwsdH/FaJel12yk6n9oN xeXFVWVoTFfMU9qlUcQzgmdnmTbyDszJo6Osob8ijGqTf92XVrdPP8FACZ7wWplBdvwjZ8M6N jOeA4S7FeEFTWGoAIzwtD1BY6gUr/Pn6IvdVihHan34Um3DgK6EAwfk34PaRwQI9Jcd/3d2lg idSZYtVFgo9VWMPfWcjDCmAjMm2sXRNCQD/8EGYXj0KNSe8C1mZWYHrro4O2Y6Feyr3tyKxXy FwoWeSLKq404gz2eLmWndWv49QBenwaXYGNMHfn6gC9KYu/SaLFA9E1wiESL24fil2hECwIIn 0EyNYV/ZAxHaJg8/ X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2018 14:19:08 -0000 On Sun, 19 Aug 2018 20:41:50 +0700, Victor Sudakov wrote: > Dear Colleagues, > > Which is *the* \LaTeX distribution for FreeBSD currently? > > I remember last time I needed \LaTex around a dozen years ago, I used > the teTeX port, but cannot find it now. This is currect, teTeX has been discontinued. The consensus is to use TeXlive which is in FreeBSD ports, but is offered for many other platforms, too. > Cyrillic support is crucial, direct output to PDF is very desirable, > dependency on GUI libs and tools is not desirable. With TeXlive, you have the same tools (and more packages) as teTeX, so the switch should be possible without problems. For cyrillic text, only used occassionally, I use \usepackage[OT2,T1]{fontenc} \newcommand{\textcyr}[1]{{\donothyphenate\fontencoding{OT2}\selectfont #1}} and then \textcyr{USTANOVKA ChASTOTY PEREDATChIKA} or \textcyr{OSVEShchENIE} The "replacements" like Kh, Ch, S and Z are of course quite idiotic, but what else do you expect when EN-US becomes the master of all the languages... ;-) Additionally, it _should_ be possible to use UTF-8 input sources with cyrillic letters directly, using \usepackage[utf8x]{inputenc} and then using the cyrillic letters directly (as 2-byte "characters"). > (in a whisper) please also recommend a \LaTeX distibution for > Windows... TeXlive also replaces MiKTeX, the common "Windows" LaTeX version. It even has an installer "wizard"... :-) On Sun, 19 Aug 2018 20:53:46 +0700, Victor Sudakov wrote: > I forgot to mention that I've tried a couple of online editors like > https://www.sharelatex.com/ but they all lacked Cyrillic support > miserably (Cyrillic characters either did not show in the compiled > output, or showed as mojibake). Just use a normal editor inside a terminal that can input and display cyrillic letters. Even ye olde xterm can do it. Make sure you set your environment variables correctly, i. e., en_US.UTF-8. I have no idea if LyX, the WYSIWYG variant for LaTeX, is still available. Personally, I prefer YAFIYGI because it works. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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It even has an installer "wizard"... :-) I have used both and found MiKTeX the more robust of = the two. If you do decide on MiKTeX, I would strongly recommend the "Net" installer , either 32 or 64 bit depending on y= our system. Unless you plan on sharing this installation with multiple users on your PC, I would strongly recommend that you use the single-user installati= on mode. I also use TeXstudio as my writing environmen= t for creating LaTeX documents. Just a personal preference. Personally, I have found using LaTeX to be easier to maintain and keep up-to-date on a Windows' based machine. --=20 Carmel From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Aug 19 15:06:15 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EBAF106BD55 for ; Sun, 19 Aug 2018 15:06:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rtomek@tau1.ceti.pl) Received: from mailout4.ceti.pl (mailout4.ceti.pl [62.121.128.44]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 926D87AB83 for ; Sun, 19 Aug 2018 15:06:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rtomek@tau1.ceti.pl) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailout4.ceti.pl (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEA29C0552F12; Sun, 19 Aug 2018 17:06:04 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mailout1.ceti.pl Received: from mailout4.ceti.pl ([62.121.128.44]) by localhost (mailout1.ceti.pl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ybPovptJL4Ep; Sun, 19 Aug 2018 17:05:55 +0200 (CEST) Received: from tau1.ceti.pl (tau.ceti.pl [62.121.128.11]) by mailout4.ceti.pl (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1BA1C0552F11; Sun, 19 Aug 2018 17:05:55 +0200 (CEST) Received: by tau1.ceti.pl (Postfix, from userid 3727) id A5C05960967; Sun, 19 Aug 2018 17:05:55 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2018 17:05:55 +0200 From: Tomasz Rola To: Polytropon Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: The recommended LaTeX port? Message-ID: <20180819150555.GA2423@tau1.ceti.pl> References: <20180819134150.GA18805@admin.sibptus.transneft.ru> <20180819161317.9bfdac7f.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20180819161317.9bfdac7f.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2018 15:06:15 -0000 On Sun, Aug 19, 2018 at 04:13:17PM +0200, Polytropon wrote: > On Sun, 19 Aug 2018 20:41:50 +0700, Victor Sudakov wrote: > > Dear Colleagues, > > > > Which is *the* \LaTeX distribution for FreeBSD currently? > > > > I remember last time I needed \LaTex around a dozen years ago, I used > > the teTeX port, but cannot find it now. > > This is currect, teTeX has been discontinued. The consensus > is to use TeXlive which is in FreeBSD ports, but is offered > for many other platforms, too. > > > > > Cyrillic support is crucial, direct output to PDF is very desirable, > > dependency on GUI libs and tools is not desirable. > > With TeXlive, you have the same tools (and more packages) In particular, pdftex and pdflatex are part of my TeXlive installation. Although I would probably try a bit more traditional way first, i.e. latex -> dvi -> dvips -> some ps2pdf converter, I have no idea which "ps2pdf" is better/best. There is also dvipdf. Manpage for pdftex mentions problems with including *.eps figures and *.ps files, if you want to use those, they need to be converted to pdf files first. Disclaimer: I only used pdftex in a simple converter script, scrambling many jpgs into one pdf file, so I have no other real life experience with it. A practical note: I tend to have bigger latex documents in multiple files (one chapter = one file) and keep it organized via Makefile. This can help a lot if one has to convert files, recompute datas and redo plots few times a day. [...] > On Sun, 19 Aug 2018 20:53:46 +0700, Victor Sudakov wrote: > > I forgot to mention that I've tried a couple of online editors like > > https://www.sharelatex.com/ but they all lacked Cyrillic support > > miserably (Cyrillic characters either did not show in the compiled > > output, or showed as mojibake). > > Just use a normal editor inside a terminal that can input > and display cyrillic letters. Even ye olde xterm can do it. > Make sure you set your environment variables correctly, > i. e., en_US.UTF-8. > > I have no idea if LyX, the WYSIWYG variant for LaTeX, is > still available. Personally, I prefer YAFIYGI because it > works. Myself, I think for anything bigger than page of text, emacs is the ultimate editor (and I believe it can be setup to handle Cyryllic rather easily, but I have never done this). I also think that WYSIWYG is overhyped. A lot. Of course, using emacs means one has to periodically check the document (i.e. in my case, run make or make view) - which is inevitable anyway, because there might be some bug in a WYSIWYG editor which would only manifest in compiled document. I guess it is less problematic if one goes into straight LaTeX markup from the start. -- Regards, Tomasz Rola -- ** A C programmer asked whether computer had Buddha's nature. ** ** As the answer, master did "rm -rif" on the programmer's home ** ** directory. And then the C programmer became enlightened... ** ** ** ** Tomasz Rola mailto:tomasz_rola@bigfoot.com ** From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Aug 19 16:30:10 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1EAB106EE07 for ; Sun, 19 Aug 2018 16:30:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.17.24]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3BF347E1A0 for ; Sun, 19 Aug 2018 16:30:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([92.195.99.237]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue101 [212.227.15.183]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 0Lzb2g-1fwK381pXm-014n3x; Sun, 19 Aug 2018 18:05:20 +0200 Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2018 18:05:19 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Tomasz Rola Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: The recommended LaTeX port? 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The consensus > > is to use TeXlive which is in FreeBSD ports, but is offered > > for many other platforms, too. > > > > > > > > > Cyrillic support is crucial, direct output to PDF is very desirable, > > > dependency on GUI libs and tools is not desirable. > > > > With TeXlive, you have the same tools (and more packages) > > In particular, pdftex and pdflatex are part of my TeXlive > installation. Although I would probably try a bit more traditional way > first, i.e. latex -> dvi -> dvips -> some ps2pdf converter, I have no > idea which "ps2pdf" is better/best. There is also dvipdf. Manpage for > pdftex mentions problems with including *.eps figures and *.ps files, > if you want to use those, they need to be converted to pdf files > first. The pdflatex command seems to be the most convenient tool to create PDF files (which are used quite often). For a more precise control in pre-print / print, the toolchain as described above works very good. > Disclaimer: I only used pdftex in a simple converter script, > scrambling many jpgs into one pdf file, so I have no other real life > experience with it. For that specific tast, you can use convert (from ImageMagick), if you don't need any specific resize / rotate / border / annotation / description / file information / bar code / page number / ... features. > A practical note: I tend to have bigger latex documents in multiple > files (one chapter = one file) and keep it organized via > Makefile. This can help a lot if one has to convert files, recompute > datas and redo plots few times a day. I also use the approach to (ab)use Makefile to control processing and output for bigger projects - only things that _need_ updating will be updated, like images or texts. You can automate a lot of stuff during pre-print stage; even a "make install" to upload result files is possible. :-) > [...] > > On Sun, 19 Aug 2018 20:53:46 +0700, Victor Sudakov wrote: > > > I forgot to mention that I've tried a couple of online editors like > > > https://www.sharelatex.com/ but they all lacked Cyrillic support > > > miserably (Cyrillic characters either did not show in the compiled > > > output, or showed as mojibake). > > > > Just use a normal editor inside a terminal that can input > > and display cyrillic letters. Even ye olde xterm can do it. > > Make sure you set your environment variables correctly, > > i. e., en_US.UTF-8. > > > > I have no idea if LyX, the WYSIWYG variant for LaTeX, is > > still available. Personally, I prefer YAFIYGI because it > > works. > > Myself, I think for anything bigger than page of text, emacs is the > ultimate editor (and I believe it can be setup to handle Cyryllic > rather easily, but I have never done this). Tell _that_ to a vi person. ;-) > I also think that WYSIWYG > is overhyped. A lot. Not only that, it results in writers (general term for all people who create text) to concentrate on form where they should concentrate on content. You can see that in almost every piece of business documents (not just presentations). LaTeX emphasizes the "what it is" over the "what it looks like". Unlike word processors, LaTeX offers you to create your own "semantic markup" where you can decide about the style from the beginning or later on in a O(1) manner, unlike the typical O(n) microformatting in word processors. Yes, I know, those also have (limited) abilities to create your own formats, but nobody actually uses that handy feature. If you are interested in this topic, check the following resources: Allin Cottrell: Word Processors: Stupid and Inefficient http://cda.psych.uiuc.edu/latex_class_material/wp.html http://ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu/~cottrell/wp.html Jeff Goldberg: MS-Word is Not a document exchange format http://www.goldmark.org/netrants/no-word/attach.html And probably those too: http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/latex.html http://en.nothingisreal.com/wiki/Please_don't_send_me_Microsoft_Word_documents http://www.nybooks.com/blogs/nyrblog/2014/oct/21/escape-microsoft-word/ In my opinion, the editor is one of the key elements of good document creation. The _right_ editor depends on your workflow, preferences, and experience. > Of course, using emacs means one has to > periodically check the document (i.e. in my case, run make or make > view) - which is inevitable anyway, because there might be some bug in > a WYSIWYG editor which would only manifest in compiled document. I > guess it is less problematic if one goes into straight LaTeX markup > from the start. The more you use LaTeX, the better you are able to "render in your head" (just like you can imagine what the computer will do when you write a program). This can be more efficient than using WYSIWYG, especially when you _don't_ get what you see. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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Can a firewall (for example pfsense) be used so that in a local network it = prevents the nodes from being seen, they share resources, but that each nod= e of that network does have access to the Internet? What is your suggestion= about it? Le expreso mi cordial saludo y ruego respetuosamente su respuesta. Puede un cortafuego (por ejemplo pfsense) ser usado para que en una red loc= al evite que los nodos se vean, compartan recursos, pero que cada nodo de e= sa red s=ED tenga acceso a la Internet?. Cu=E1l es su sugerencia al respect= o? Es un placer comunicarme con usted. It is my pleasure to get in touch with you. Arturo Ram=EDrez. +584162751584 [1497099609185_Copia] From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Aug 19 18:53:35 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C40B5107462E for ; Sun, 19 Aug 2018 18:53:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58D19857EE for ; Sun, 19 Aug 2018 18:53:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 1D0ED107462D; Sun, 19 Aug 2018 18:53:35 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BA86107462C for ; Sun, 19 Aug 2018 18:53:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.17.13]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 56749857ED for ; Sun, 19 Aug 2018 18:53:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([92.195.99.237]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue104 [212.227.15.183]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 0MRlnN-1fOcMa16QD-00T0W1; Sun, 19 Aug 2018 20:53:29 +0200 Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2018 20:53:28 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Arturo Rafael =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ram=EDrez_Brice=F1o?= Cc: "questions@FreeBSD.org" Subject: Re: I beg your response ... / Ruego su respuesta... 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To be seen from where? Fron within the network, from an external source? Seen on which layer (e. g., "seen" via TCP/IP, "seen" via ARP)? Firewalls are often combined with NAT, so connections to the outside appear "as one" whereas in reality they are translated to the individual nodes as needed. > [...] they share resources, [...] Yes. This is a typical firewall configuration: Do not interfere with the communication within a network, but apply rules for traffic from the network to the Internet and back. (Sidenote: Firewalls installed on computers of course can apply rules to the communication of the nodes to each other within the network, but it doesn't seem this is the scope of your question.) However, again "share resources" is not fully clear. What resources? Shared how? > [...] but that each node of that network does have access to > the Internet? Is that a requirement or the current status? Anyway, yes, a regular firewall can achieve that. > What is your suggestion about it? Please express more clearly what you wish to achieve. If possible, use established technical terminology (especially for "to be seen"). :-) --=20 Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Aug 20 00:54:55 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D73F1107E05F for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2018 00:54:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from cosmo.uchicago.edu (cosmo.uchicago.edu [128.135.20.71]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 776197306D for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2018 00:54:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: by cosmo.uchicago.edu (Postfix, from userid 48) id D2048CB8D28; Sun, 19 Aug 2018 19:54:46 -0500 (CDT) Received: from 108.68.162.197 (SquirrelMail authenticated user valeri) by cosmo.uchicago.edu with HTTP; Sun, 19 Aug 2018 19:54:46 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <55706.108.68.162.197.1534726486.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> In-Reply-To: <20180819180519.1f3a6928.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20180819134150.GA18805@admin.sibptus.transneft.ru> <20180819161317.9bfdac7f.freebsd@edvax.de> <20180819150555.GA2423@tau1.ceti.pl> <20180819180519.1f3a6928.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2018 19:54:46 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: The recommended LaTeX port? From: "Valeri Galtsev" To: "Polytropon" Cc: "Tomasz Rola" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Reply-To: galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.8-5.el5.centos.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2018 00:54:55 -0000 On Sun, August 19, 2018 11:05 am, Polytropon wrote: > On Sun, 19 Aug 2018 17:05:55 +0200, Tomasz Rola wrote: >> On Sun, Aug 19, 2018 at 04:13:17PM +0200, Polytropon wrote: >> > On Sun, 19 Aug 2018 20:41:50 +0700, Victor Sudakov wrote: >> > > Dear Colleagues, >> > > >> > > Which is *the* \LaTeX distribution for FreeBSD currently? >> > > >> > > I remember last time I needed \LaTex around a dozen years ago, I >> used >> > > the teTeX port, but cannot find it now. >> > >> > This is currect, teTeX has been discontinued. The consensus >> > is to use TeXlive which is in FreeBSD ports, but is offered >> > for many other platforms, too. >> > >> > >> > >> > > Cyrillic support is crucial, direct output to PDF is very desirable, >> > > dependency on GUI libs and tools is not desirable. >> > >> > With TeXlive, you have the same tools (and more packages) >> >> In particular, pdftex and pdflatex are part of my TeXlive >> installation. Although I would probably try a bit more traditional way >> first, i.e. latex -> dvi -> dvips -> some ps2pdf converter, I have no >> idea which "ps2pdf" is better/best. There is also dvipdf. Manpage for >> pdftex mentions problems with including *.eps figures and *.ps files, >> if you want to use those, they need to be converted to pdf files >> first. > > The pdflatex command seems to be the most convenient > tool to create PDF files Well, as far as I know TeX in general and TeXlive incarnation in particular, there two mutually exclusive ways to include pictures in TeX. One of the ways is: adding pictures in one of the image formats (such as jpeg, png, tiff, etc), then you can use pdflatex command to produce PDF file. Alternatively, you can include images in EPS (Encapsulated PostScript) format, then you typeset with command latex, that will produce dvi file, which you can further convert as it is said above. I hope, this helps. Valeri > (which are used quite often). > For a more precise control in pre-print / print, the > toolchain as described above works very good. > > > >> Disclaimer: I only used pdftex in a simple converter script, >> scrambling many jpgs into one pdf file, so I have no other real life >> experience with it. > > For that specific tast, you can use convert (from ImageMagick), > if you don't need any specific resize / rotate / border / > annotation / description / file information / bar code / > page number / ... features. > > > >> A practical note: I tend to have bigger latex documents in multiple >> files (one chapter = one file) and keep it organized via >> Makefile. This can help a lot if one has to convert files, recompute >> datas and redo plots few times a day. > > I also use the approach to (ab)use Makefile to control > processing and output for bigger projects - only things > that _need_ updating will be updated, like images or > texts. You can automate a lot of stuff during pre-print > stage; even a "make install" to upload result files is > possible. :-) > > > >> [...] >> > On Sun, 19 Aug 2018 20:53:46 +0700, Victor Sudakov wrote: >> > > I forgot to mention that I've tried a couple of online editors like >> > > https://www.sharelatex.com/ but they all lacked Cyrillic support >> > > miserably (Cyrillic characters either did not show in the compiled >> > > output, or showed as mojibake). >> > >> > Just use a normal editor inside a terminal that can input >> > and display cyrillic letters. Even ye olde xterm can do it. >> > Make sure you set your environment variables correctly, >> > i. e., en_US.UTF-8. >> > >> > I have no idea if LyX, the WYSIWYG variant for LaTeX, is >> > still available. Personally, I prefer YAFIYGI because it >> > works. >> >> Myself, I think for anything bigger than page of text, emacs is the >> ultimate editor (and I believe it can be setup to handle Cyryllic >> rather easily, but I have never done this). > > Tell _that_ to a vi person. ;-) > > > >> I also think that WYSIWYG >> is overhyped. A lot. > > Not only that, it results in writers (general term for all > people who create text) to concentrate on form where they > should concentrate on content. You can see that in almost > every piece of business documents (not just presentations). > LaTeX emphasizes the "what it is" over the "what it looks > like". Unlike word processors, LaTeX offers you to create > your own "semantic markup" where you can decide about the > style from the beginning or later on in a O(1) manner, > unlike the typical O(n) microformatting in word processors. > Yes, I know, those also have (limited) abilities to create > your own formats, but nobody actually uses that handy > feature. > > If you are interested in this topic, check the following > resources: > > Allin Cottrell: > Word Processors: Stupid and Inefficient > > http://cda.psych.uiuc.edu/latex_class_material/wp.html > > http://ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu/~cottrell/wp.html > > Jeff Goldberg: > MS-Word is Not a document exchange format > > http://www.goldmark.org/netrants/no-word/attach.html > > And probably those too: > > http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/latex.html > > http://en.nothingisreal.com/wiki/Please_don't_send_me_Microsoft_Word_documents > > http://www.nybooks.com/blogs/nyrblog/2014/oct/21/escape-microsoft-word/ > > > > In my opinion, the editor is one of the key elements of > good document creation. The _right_ editor depends on > your workflow, preferences, and experience. > > > >> Of course, using emacs means one has to >> periodically check the document (i.e. in my case, run make or make >> view) - which is inevitable anyway, because there might be some bug in >> a WYSIWYG editor which would only manifest in compiled document. I >> guess it is less problematic if one goes into straight LaTeX markup >> from the start. > > The more you use LaTeX, the better you are able to > "render in your head" (just like you can imagine > what the computer will do when you write a program). > This can be more efficient than using WYSIWYG, > especially when you _don't_ get what you see. :-) > > > > > > -- > Polytropon > Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Aug 20 01:53:45 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3571F107F89C for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2018 01:53:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: from relay2.tomsk.ru (mail.sibptus.tomsk.ru [212.73.124.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E36174D5A for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2018 01:53:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) X-Virus-Scanned: by clamd daemon 0.100.1 for FreeBSD at relay.sibptus.ru Received: from [212.73.125.240] (HELO admin.sibptus.transneft.ru) by relay2.tomsk.ru (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.16) with ESMTPS id 40081063; Mon, 20 Aug 2018 08:53:42 +0700 Received: from admin.sibptus.transneft.ru (sudakov@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by admin.sibptus.transneft.ru (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id w7K1reng024727; Mon, 20 Aug 2018 08:53:41 +0700 (+07) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: (from sudakov@localhost) by admin.sibptus.transneft.ru (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id w7K1rb3c024723; Mon, 20 Aug 2018 08:53:37 +0700 (+07) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) X-Authentication-Warning: admin.sibptus.transneft.ru: sudakov set sender to vas@mpeks.tomsk.su using -f Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2018 08:53:37 +0700 From: Victor Sudakov To: Polytropon Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: The recommended LaTeX port? Message-ID: <20180820015337.GA24423@admin.sibptus.transneft.ru> References: <20180819134150.GA18805@admin.sibptus.transneft.ru> <20180819161317.9bfdac7f.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20180819161317.9bfdac7f.freebsd@edvax.de> Organization: AO "Svyaztransneft", SibPTUS X-PGP-Key: http://www.dreamwidth.org/pubkey?user=victor_sudakov X-PGP-Fingerprint: 10E3 1171 1273 E007 C2E9 3532 0DA4 F259 9B5E C634 User-Agent: Mutt/1.9.5 (2018-04-13) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2018 01:53:45 -0000 Polytropon wrote: > > > > Which is *the* \LaTeX distribution for FreeBSD currently? > > > > I remember last time I needed \LaTex around a dozen years ago, I used > > the teTeX port, but cannot find it now. > > This is currect, teTeX has been discontinued. The consensus > is to use TeXlive which is in FreeBSD ports, but is offered > for many other platforms, too. OK, print/texlive-full then. > > > Cyrillic support is crucial, direct output to PDF is very desirable, > > dependency on GUI libs and tools is not desirable. > > With TeXlive, you have the same tools (and more packages) > as teTeX, so the switch should be possible without problems. > For cyrillic text, only used occassionally, I use No, occassionally is not for me. > > Additionally, it _should_ be possible to use UTF-8 > input sources with cyrillic letters directly, using > > \usepackage[utf8x]{inputenc} In fact, this is not sufficient, pdflatex still complains about Cyrillic characters. Maybe something like \usepackage[utf8]{inputenc} \usepackage[russian]{babel} helps, but I think I need to find Russian users of TeXlive for instructions. > > I forgot to mention that I've tried a couple of online editors like > > https://www.sharelatex.com/ but they all lacked Cyrillic support > > miserably (Cyrillic characters either did not show in the compiled > > output, or showed as mojibake). > > Just use a normal editor inside a terminal that can input > and display cyrillic letters. Even ye olde xterm can do it. > Make sure you set your environment variables correctly, > i. e., en_US.UTF-8. Sorry, you misunderstood me. I meant *online* editors, not *visual* editors. That is, online \LaTex compilers, you just upload your source or edit it in a Web form, and they compile it for you online into PDF. https://www.sharelatex.com/ is like that. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Aug 20 08:31:06 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E6501088C83 for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2018 08:31:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Norman.Gray@glasgow.ac.uk) Received: from plockton.cent.gla.ac.uk (plockton.cent.gla.ac.uk [130.209.16.75]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1186D81834 for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2018 08:31:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Norman.Gray@glasgow.ac.uk) Received: from cas07.campus.gla.ac.uk ([130.209.14.164]) by plockton.cent.gla.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1frfaU-0002Km-Ga; Mon, 20 Aug 2018 09:30:58 +0100 Received: from [192.168.1.50] (81.2.70.164) by cas07.campus.gla.ac.uk (130.209.14.164) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1395.4; Mon, 20 Aug 2018 09:30:57 +0100 From: Norman Gray To: Victor Sudakov CC: Subject: Re: The recommended LaTeX port? Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2018 09:30:56 +0100 X-Mailer: MailMate (1.11.3r5509) Message-ID: <8929E48B-15EF-47C7-9F4E-044C0261EA17@glasgow.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: <20180820015337.GA24423@admin.sibptus.transneft.ru> References: <20180819134150.GA18805@admin.sibptus.transneft.ru> <20180819161317.9bfdac7f.freebsd@edvax.de> <20180820015337.GA24423@admin.sibptus.transneft.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-Originating-IP: [81.2.70.164] X-ClientProxiedBy: CAS08.campus.gla.ac.uk (130.209.14.165) To cas07.campus.gla.ac.uk (130.209.14.164) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2018 08:31:06 -0000 Greetings. On 20 Aug 2018, at 2:53, Victor Sudakov wrote: > Which is *the* \LaTeX distribution for FreeBSD currently? I don't know specifically about the 'for FreeBSD' part, but I can make a couple of points about (La)TeX variants. TeXLive is currently the dominant TeX distribution. The canonical source of that is . As mentioned earlier in this thread 'latex' can use only EPS files as images, but 'pdflatex' can use a variety of formats _excluding_ EPS. However ps2pdf can convert EPS files to PDF, ready for inclusion using pdflatex. I think it's fair to say that pdflatex is used much more commonly than latex, except in those cases (for example in some journal submissions) where one must fit in with an EPS-only workflow. Generally (and certainly in the TeXLive distribution), latex and pdflatex are the same program, distinguished by the default (but changeable) value of \pdfoutput: in either program, \pdfoutput=0 produces DVI output, and \pdfoutput=1 produces PDF. You might be interested, Victor, in xe(la)tex or lua(la)tex, which are also in TeXLive. These are two friendly forks of TeX which use Unicode internally -- so the source file can be cyrilllic with no \usepackage{inputenc} complications. Both XeTeX and LuaTeX also use platform fonts, rather than only TeX or postscript fonts, which can be very convenient, if you're not concerned with making your source document portable. There are a few interesting features which are unique to either XeTeX or LuaTeX -- both of these are, in a sense, the laboratories of the TeX world -- but the fonts capability which they both have is the one that most people are interested in. If your goal is to produce documents with Cyrillic content, as painlessly as possible, than I think you'd be best using XeTeX or LuaTeX, and restraining yourself from doing anything fancy with fonts. Best wishes, Norman -- Norman Gray : https://nxg.me.uk SUPA School of Physics and Astronomy, University of Glasgow, UK From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Aug 20 08:38:29 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 190A91088F0B for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2018 08:38:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Norman.Gray@glasgow.ac.uk) Received: from hillend.cent.gla.ac.uk (hillend.cent.gla.ac.uk [130.209.16.102]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AB60281C54 for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2018 08:38:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Norman.Gray@glasgow.ac.uk) Received: from cas07.campus.gla.ac.uk ([130.209.14.164]) by hillend.cent.gla.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1frfhc-0006j6-OL; Mon, 20 Aug 2018 09:38:20 +0100 Received: from [192.168.1.50] (81.2.70.164) by cas07.campus.gla.ac.uk (130.209.14.164) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1395.4; Mon, 20 Aug 2018 09:38:20 +0100 From: Norman Gray To: Victor Sudakov CC: Subject: Re: The recommended LaTeX port? Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2018 09:38:19 +0100 X-Mailer: MailMate (1.11.3r5509) Message-ID: <4B40D6FF-579F-45DD-99AE-BC0CAAD43A45@glasgow.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: <20180820015337.GA24423@admin.sibptus.transneft.ru> References: <20180819134150.GA18805@admin.sibptus.transneft.ru> <20180819161317.9bfdac7f.freebsd@edvax.de> <20180820015337.GA24423@admin.sibptus.transneft.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Originating-IP: [81.2.70.164] X-ClientProxiedBy: CAS08.campus.gla.ac.uk (130.209.14.165) To cas07.campus.gla.ac.uk (130.209.14.164) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2018 08:38:29 -0000 =2E..and I forgot to reply to this bit: On 20 Aug 2018, at 2:53, Victor Sudakov wrote: > https://www.sharelatex.com/ is like that. And for a fee, they offer > collaboration tools, git integration etc. ShareLaTeX was acquired by Overleaf.com a little while ago. That brings = the number of such services, that I'm aware of, down to one. I haven't used Overleaf myself, to any great extent, but I have = colleagues who do use it, and collaborate using it, who are very = enthusiastic about it. And it seems that they do support XeTeX and LuaTeX [1]. Best wishes, Norman [1] = https://www.overleaf.com/blog/500-whats-in-a-name-a-guide-to-the-many-fla= vours-of-tex#overleaf -- = Norman Gray : https://nxg.me.uk SUPA School of Physics and Astronomy, University of Glasgow, UK From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Aug 20 08:44:23 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33EA7108919E for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2018 08:44:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3A1982026 for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2018 08:44:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 8513B108919D; Mon, 20 Aug 2018 08:44:22 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61474108919B for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2018 08:44:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.17.24]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BA9CE82025 for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2018 08:44:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([92.195.99.237]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue101 [212.227.15.183]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 0MJl3M-1fslj42icm-0017W5; Mon, 20 Aug 2018 10:44:18 +0200 Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2018 10:44:18 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Arturo Rafael =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ram=EDrez_Brice=F1o?= Cc: "questions@FreeBSD.org" Subject: Re: I beg your response ... / Ruego su respuesta... Message-Id: <20180820104418.20cd6909.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20180819205328.eb81c27b.freebsd@edvax.de> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:JldZB+CrrHQpM00KZpg2/UoRb0XcY7VUZvv5AWSHItBTyLFm7oH eJQVI+9A+h3rPyGZs1F54BI1lOYuLY76CwBnlax3bDMm/0dCYA1rOceb+zYUGNdJCLxahTN CQCselWkVOmKxX/4rxpYdU6fLlmIsoxZc+DaToff02aoDHQqVDscxkKmYTioG3k/ddG0M6G c4RzeGlYwdezGIXohZscg== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:cgENSC2gEuY=:b5ECjCv6PpgqLRzSeGkG4c ilR2t67b6z5rmM7oW1Nc0ztE00DjlnK7mmtbqngNX+XoR4k5XJ6Ttnrbm5gvcQ6AC4iGoolwd GSDwEJShW4VxyXg6iwEuC4HaPN+jEPNkVfrQQLK63IBMkAiPkybr6VtB3/04jQACnOXNR2F2D 0X3NHUuszcOsyeHJr8bd+Vd3trqhar1X5CdrX/Iu7mGSEcQqUHhQB+YxQLsxFusWHexs+9gew 1dZWezx6E4dN2mraJ4Ctxw+xh634XuEcDbagoavnMEbuJgmInJAD7yAEeLTq4rkXLM/DwZ2+S h/L6Q3/s7kMQ3e8aQBrRbYkV0A69dEIVHybJMr6X0dfpG4EiAhdI1X92ExgbQMWUp/HUZbxzK P2TA/pc3Fe3t3M0kxkXuGmj8bfDqJWG2PIhJl4l6areZJ6J3R43RFw/Q2tUnB/phu9rbY/lL6 8rwetSN5xjR0RGC+OIOKs6ZENYhdplbZ0ZY9y6kOl/gkUuHugkf8oHRI/2IqG2hPcaJ8LfbAS YpZ8L6w3N7MlZn+cecjfvb928QiQNI68M/59c+jhTp8UoVJZUF8PdHD1HZQDiSFQ9wrXeaFhl KOO5K+Jb0eX33Tw4M7NGQ4dUB0CVxIdf7PdG3tyrqliagplubYzXKjiCzqaLwG76L0xXyNrBO u4vnJS+4oxvDsTjVbdqN0KpBB+nfUzqmqPAF4uV/1oKUyA60ucOlilL3VSiSbusQoSExH6hDH FidyG1qhh7H/RL5p X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2018 08:44:23 -0000 Re-including list, hope that's okay. On Sun, 19 Aug 2018 20:49:19 +0000, Arturo Rafael Ram=EDrez Brice=F1o wrote: > In the context of "preventing the nodes of the same lan from being > seen" is to say that files, printers, and other resources can not > be shared on the network; but nevertheless, through the server, each > node can access the internet. If possible, how can I do it? This doesn't really look like a task for a firewall, but instead I'd suggest to take a close look at resource management at the individual nodes. Simply don't enable the sharing ability for resources (like file access or printer access): If a node doesn't allow access to its files and printer, no other node can access it. On FreBSD, the system default settings do not offer any resource access, so if your nodes are FreeBSD computers, there is nothing you need to do. Access to the Internet through a server is easy. FreeBSD's IPFW firewall for example can be used here, in combination with NAT - which, by the way, is a quite typical setting. Additionally, such servers often add a 3rd thing to the mix: a DHCP server (for example isc-dhcpd). The advantage here is that all configuration can be done in "O(1) manner" on the server, like DHCP configuration, fixed or dynamically allocated addresses, Internet access permissions per node, if desired, or central resource sharing, like one printer that everyone can use. This approach is superior to the common "O(n) manner" where the amount of work is equivalent to the number of nodes in the network - more computers, more work. The information to implement the firewall-side for such a setting can be found in the FreeBSD Handbook: https://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/firewalls-ipfw.html There is more interesting information in this forum thread: https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/about-ipfw-nat.62177/ Instead of stupid copypasta, it really helps to make a short list (with pen and paper) where you draw and describe your desired network layout, permissions to access the Internet, and resource sharing. From this point, create your configuration settings (for rc.conf, ipfw.rules, and if desired, for dhcpd.conf). Always remember that a firewall (and servers in general, but node PCs as well) belong to the realm of thinking about security. :-) --=20 Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Aug 20 09:06:54 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67A5B1089877 for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2018 09:06:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.17.24]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CD0278292E for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2018 09:06:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([92.195.99.237]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue101 [212.227.15.183]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 0M5Ozn-1g3SVQ3kkR-00zXDO; Mon, 20 Aug 2018 11:06:52 +0200 Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2018 11:06:50 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Victor Sudakov Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: The recommended LaTeX port? Message-Id: <20180820110650.3f621f7e.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20180820015337.GA24423@admin.sibptus.transneft.ru> References: <20180819134150.GA18805@admin.sibptus.transneft.ru> <20180819161317.9bfdac7f.freebsd@edvax.de> <20180820015337.GA24423@admin.sibptus.transneft.ru> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:NQrNgafsIhNempyEGToPzar4w+HHLNC028R7jJ3ahxdAg7+8Dlh XVPMz8mZOTw15sw+NvrwDemfki7yFOk+7tJdUY3MXHJblUg2XQZrMelrO2E4zWBHvFEMfl1 cMbOH0r+sxqnHF8TfUY6Ke1yZeHLpQQUmZgii3/YZ+WtB1kGcCKg7tKmLqjpkeYeVFwXcI0 4BMYH2rTEG5ICGqM4qbeQ== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:z6dREuC6g60=:EAAg24kV+cJEmnhGPF4+/S hBYbM96hdhUDzkwHaCHlZOMVGFCe/skhDeIoOTJM0NntZiId4/5v6M0r6/lbHcHGBtWFn7lF+ 7hNmpUCUYxDb19Q+lsnpj8Coi+iPhhzgll874IpftA9adD89UeOrGWdh9YUlDjGSxGAi7EfuB L2aFTnPDtFiWG49AgWShWd2sXzPn7sxZK9VactMAmBB6b0va4ePXUqh97RjrLQ+wRfrrNO+Wa 15w2Rp901xb0pfG3OAhZZ4xCAM2oYH/Kv7c5WKzdrjLEW3wJhGJ0Jl62IOXygFNXR7l7YzZKM Ny+75C0KDwKK3xOdILlZu5auPzDs4XKXjJVh1whXEKlT6M3AJdEOvfuzKO25x41o42qFAAGoK 60jG+8JzSXac1w6cOpoFDj+3MplVBzVqBRAohtqTE465DqWwCGUsF6NDyIbfoz56PvUoHzwRb WuUQo08OuzaiEpDJkMlHfiR70uQV8d2I9TLnnoErW/4VUefBrSaHi+32f7y4GVSE20wTGwRFA 8vFG9obqy0j0C3sgvaCioVSirNyoeu9v7EJrxsWwXDH1zNOMUgDOt2+abnvegRVGP+8tK2eBJ MyNZ1IYCUjv1doNbDSB1QO7KSbDvc8KEgcBLlmpNHMG6lGSkDgEuh5DLqBo0JNuRuj6nBjxJR jGw6l5/T92XQx31aJvB7aTlQxjKQS+YlvQBEOW0INCuIgxcjv2AXv+DEYuOKyFZ/kzFafp6yp Psr1XmWijRa2OiJF X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2018 09:06:54 -0000 On Mon, 20 Aug 2018 08:53:37 +0700, Victor Sudakov wrote: > Polytropon wrote: > > > > > > Which is *the* \LaTeX distribution for FreeBSD currently? > > > > > > I remember last time I needed \LaTex around a dozen years ago, I used > > > the teTeX port, but cannot find it now. > > > > This is currect, teTeX has been discontinued. The consensus > > is to use TeXlive which is in FreeBSD ports, but is offered > > for many other platforms, too. > > OK, print/texlive-full then. Correct. > > > Cyrillic support is crucial, direct output to PDF is very desirable, > > > dependency on GUI libs and tools is not desirable. > > > > With TeXlive, you have the same tools (and more packages) > > as teTeX, so the switch should be possible without problems. > > For cyrillic text, only used occassionally, I use > > No, occassionally is not for me. I always wanted to have a template wheer I can copy some russian text into it (with cyrillic letters only, UTF-8, but with the correct \frqq{}quotes\flqq{}, punctuation, numbers and so on), and it would typeset as expected. Sadly, I don't have such a template yet... :-( And: No, creating a converter from cyrillic UTF-8 to the EN-US-dominated nonsense ASCII replacement ruleset with z, s, ch, kh, y, w, z, resulting in "zdravstvu\u{i}te" and other mostly unreadable text doesn't count. :-) > > Additionally, it _should_ be possible to use UTF-8 > > input sources with cyrillic letters directly, using > > > > \usepackage[utf8x]{inputenc} > > In fact, this is not sufficient, pdflatex still complains about Cyrillic > characters. Maybe something like > > \usepackage[utf8]{inputenc} > \usepackage[russian]{babel} > > helps, but I think I need to find Russian users of TeXlive for > instructions. With TeXlive, you have at least the common foundation for any typesetting work. Oh, I just found something that works, thanks to your mentioning of the babel package (which I never found any use for, not in English, not in German). Save this to a demonstration file, for example bagash.tex: \documentclass[12pt,a4paper]{article} \usepackage{a4} \usepackage{soul} \usepackage[OT2,T1]{fontenc} \usepackage[utf8]{inputenc} \usepackage[russian]{babel} \begin{document} Самуил Я. Маршак: \textbf{Багаж} Дама сдавала в багаж: Диван, Чемодан, Саквояж, Картину, Корзину, Картонку И маленькую собачонку. \end{document} If you now run "pdflatex bagash.tex", you will see all the text as intended (even though it will be typeset in paragraph mode, but that is what you'd expect without any further markup). I found the relevant coding example in the babel documentation: https://ctan.org/pkg/babel?lang=en http://mirrors.ctan.org/macros/latex/required/babel/base/babel.pdf Just search for "russian", and you'll quickly find it. I think this solves the initial problem. And I learned something new today. :-) > > > I forgot to mention that I've tried a couple of online editors like > > > https://www.sharelatex.com/ but they all lacked Cyrillic support > > > miserably (Cyrillic characters either did not show in the compiled > > > output, or showed as mojibake). > > > > Just use a normal editor inside a terminal that can input > > and display cyrillic letters. Even ye olde xterm can do it. > > Make sure you set your environment variables correctly, > > i. e., en_US.UTF-8. > > Sorry, you misunderstood me. I meant *online* editors, not *visual* > editors. That is, online \LaTex compilers, you just upload your source > or edit it in a Web form, and they compile it for you online into PDF. > https://www.sharelatex.com/ is like that. And for a fee, they offer > collaboration tools, git integration etc. Ah okay. I don't use any of those, that's why I cannot suggest anything. Does a SSH access to a FreeBSD system with a normal editor (vim, gvim, mcedit, joe) using a web-based SSH client count as "online editor"? ;-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Aug 20 09:12:12 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5D201089A55 for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2018 09:12:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: from relay2.tomsk.ru (mail.sibptus.tomsk.ru [212.73.124.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F67182DDF for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2018 09:12:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) X-Virus-Scanned: by clamd daemon 0.100.1 for FreeBSD at relay.sibptus.ru Received: from [212.73.125.240] (HELO admin.sibptus.transneft.ru) by relay2.tomsk.ru (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.16) with ESMTPS id 40081266; Mon, 20 Aug 2018 16:12:09 +0700 Received: from admin.sibptus.transneft.ru (sudakov@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by admin.sibptus.transneft.ru (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id w7K9C9Pe039240; Mon, 20 Aug 2018 16:12:09 +0700 (+07) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: (from sudakov@localhost) by admin.sibptus.transneft.ru (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id w7K9C69G039238; Mon, 20 Aug 2018 16:12:06 +0700 (+07) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) X-Authentication-Warning: admin.sibptus.transneft.ru: sudakov set sender to vas@mpeks.tomsk.su using -f Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2018 16:12:06 +0700 From: Victor Sudakov To: Norman Gray Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: The recommended LaTeX port? Message-ID: <20180820091205.GA38355@admin.sibptus.transneft.ru> References: <20180819134150.GA18805@admin.sibptus.transneft.ru> <20180819161317.9bfdac7f.freebsd@edvax.de> <20180820015337.GA24423@admin.sibptus.transneft.ru> <8929E48B-15EF-47C7-9F4E-044C0261EA17@glasgow.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8929E48B-15EF-47C7-9F4E-044C0261EA17@glasgow.ac.uk> Organization: AO "Svyaztransneft", SibPTUS X-PGP-Key: http://www.dreamwidth.org/pubkey?user=victor_sudakov X-PGP-Fingerprint: 10E3 1171 1273 E007 C2E9 3532 0DA4 F259 9B5E C634 User-Agent: Mutt/1.9.5 (2018-04-13) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2018 09:12:12 -0000 Norman Gray wrote: > > > > Which is *the* \LaTeX distribution for FreeBSD currently? > > I don't know specifically about the 'for FreeBSD' part, but I can make a > couple of points about (La)TeX variants. TeXLive is currently the > dominant TeX distribution. The canonical source of that is > . [dd] > > You might be interested, Victor, in xe(la)tex or lua(la)tex, which are > also in TeXLive. These are two friendly forks of TeX which use Unicode > internally -- so the source file can be cyrilllic with no > \usepackage{inputenc} complications. > > Both XeTeX and LuaTeX also use platform fonts, rather than only TeX or > postscript fonts, which can be very convenient, if you're not concerned > with making your source document portable. There are a few interesting > features which are unique to either XeTeX or LuaTeX -- both of these > are, in a sense, the laboratories of the TeX world -- but the fonts > capability which they both have is the one that most people are > interested in. > > If your goal is to produce documents with Cyrillic content, as > painlessly as possible, True. > than I think you'd be best using XeTeX or > LuaTeX, and restraining yourself from doing anything fancy with fonts. Thanks for the insight, Norman! Are XeTeX and LuaTeX also in the FreeBSD ports collection? I've just installed print/texlive-full, are they part thereof? > ShareLaTeX was acquired by Overleaf.com a little while ago. That > brings the number of such services, that I'm aware of, down to one. I've just received an E-mail from Dr. LianTze Lim of Overleaf Support, with recommendations about enabling Cyrillic. They were very useful. -- Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN AS43859 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Aug 20 09:41:52 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7CEC108A69C for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2018 09:41:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.17.13]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 22C728415E for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2018 09:41:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([92.195.99.237]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue104 [212.227.15.183]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 0M8hRj-1g4YwP1isN-00wEPM; Mon, 20 Aug 2018 11:41:50 +0200 Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2018 11:41:49 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Victor Sudakov Cc: Norman Gray , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: The recommended LaTeX port? 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I've just > installed print/texlive-full, are they part thereof? Yes, those are included in the TeXLive default installation, if I remember correctly. Even though they can be used (because they have native Unicode / UTF-8 support), regular LaTeX (in this case, pdflatex, the most common form) can process cyrillic input as explained in my previous message (with example). This is helpful for online services which do not offer access to LuaTeX or xeTeX. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Aug 20 11:00:02 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08822108C8B9 for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2018 11:00:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.10.questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C9D2873AB for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2018 11:00:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.10.questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 21D3B108C8B8; Mon, 20 Aug 2018 11:00:01 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10BA9108C8B6 for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2018 11:00:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.10.questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com) Received: from s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com (s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com [142.0.176.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 85637873A1 for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2018 11:00:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.10.questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=email-od.com;i=@email-od.com;s=dkim; c=relaxed/relaxed; q=dns/txt; t=1534762800; x=1537354800; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:message-id:subject:cc:to:from:date:x-thread-info; bh=Q/0axx6VJ1Yz6cUOnbOpOB6IYQ+CFIxJok7BR7jEGCQ=; b=vgvlfRets7U3TxfeoSgHbvjuiRHe/gR6zddHvEimvs4r41wk8Io/mHlOA34SI7MU2X1jkm4gRrTqcjrJCaAexwJpSn+KTf1bzPnolac7WCrMeu+t0hTU5WLKhzxF5LWSu2yFnd5odMeOOx6gJUPu+j3Pqxqed2zOQvvcl8SgAGU= X-Thread-Info: NDI1MC4xMi4xOTkwMDAwMDA0ZmY3NzAucXVlc3Rpb25zPWZyZWVic2Qub3Jn Received: from r2.h.in.socketlabs.com (r2.h.in.socketlabs.com [142.0.180.12]) by mxsg2.email-od.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Mon, 20 Aug 2018 06:59:50 -0400 Received: from smtp.lan.sohara.org (EMTPY [89.127.62.20]) by r2.h.in.socketlabs.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Mon, 20 Aug 2018 06:59:48 -0400 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.lan.sohara.org) by smtp.lan.sohara.org with smtp (Exim 4.91 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1frhuV-0009su-75; Mon, 20 Aug 2018 10:59:47 +0000 Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2018 11:59:46 +0100 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: Polytropon Cc: Arturo Rafael =?UTF-8?B?UmFtw61yZXogQnJpY2XDsW8=?= , "questions@FreeBSD.org" Subject: Re: I beg your response ... / Ruego su respuesta... Message-Id: <20180820115946.90c2f5adad5e5181f02b788e@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: <20180820104418.20cd6909.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20180819205328.eb81c27b.freebsd@edvax.de> <20180820104418.20cd6909.freebsd@edvax.de> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.24.32; amd64-portbld-freebsd11.1) X-Clacks-Overhead: "GNU Terry Pratchett" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2018 11:00:02 -0000 On Mon, 20 Aug 2018 10:44:18 +0200 Polytropon wrote: > Re-including list, hope that's okay. > > On Sun, 19 Aug 2018 20:49:19 +0000, Arturo Rafael Ramírez Briceño wrote: > > In the context of "preventing the nodes of the same lan from being > > seen" is to say that files, printers, and other resources can not > > be shared on the network; but nevertheless, through the server, each > > node can access the internet. If possible, how can I do it? > > This doesn't really look like a task for a firewall, but This can be achieved with the combination of a router and a managed switch. Assign each node its own VLAN and set the switch up so that each node's port is on the node's VLAN untagged and the routers port is on all the VLANS tagged. The router provides routes between the internet and the VLANs but not between the VLANs and enforces this with firewall rules. Essentially this is like having a router with a lot of ports and one node on each port (which is another solution). If your nodes are on a wireless LAN then the AP can probably isolate them from each other for you. > instead I'd suggest to take a close look at resource > management at the individual nodes. Simply don't enable This is good advice and simpler - if you want enforced isolation it is more complex. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Aug 20 17:58:32 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29D6F107790E for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2018 17:58:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [217.72.192.75]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8615079E0C for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2018 17:58:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([92.195.99.237]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue104 [212.227.15.183]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 0Mdurl-1fUXMA02kn-00PeoA; Mon, 20 Aug 2018 19:58:23 +0200 Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2018 19:58:21 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Balaji Balaji Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Fwd: $ true is not set properly error Message-Id: <20180820195821.da9e1d04.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:s7vY4M2g5Sy/qGsqavRFMHGo/YRMdwhkcDaVxl8LDwsKDnIFQ/n vXVkQyeZ12jqLEDmtqYiRRCXSHDUywa6qgvv5yxhvm0FOm8pYe9AwoDjxIJ5qsu+afbM3Iw ZXaqXtUv064Rzc4/c3MPf3cswh5L6G/l1ZNtcY44MwLsqFaOM2FJCZQuyI1xiVeuoW8JVzH 0ih8MdG7cYNPOnxyFDaWg== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:PHt5mZp+uzc=:uqtpkVklKOfBwforqAN8Y6 GyRWNwBPHjb6RZcSV0e4umzyOqPLwOjTlxefLZG/howH8GSq98FbkKcMfFPLmWLEc0aQUYk4t fSnkQaepdla2D9g32XssQh2mDKSQ9HsE9tIaFA5DNmgequ8Z0thDqeHlnVf/HYmHvdZvVAH9Q TSGs82/pYfMoWyXR+U762PKszDKeuwHiwjffdOYj73SRviTyxfhVB2lIzAbWg379DTWwrCUTi mTH6E61Met25JVSY94QeIBWYwIRNqd47QLMHN81bkj92gKQR8jdBZpTh1Qdg4SENtKsyCf+g8 hnsJZPBi3m5zmkd+pMXTGrnT1yENrNfhd7Hm1d0ALa3IY/ufo2yRV6QTQZEB12uy39nH9yOgu 0t2IFGKlnQKKQ8t3BUc8mEgYh8Ake1FFHNPqERzfRzdk0DRMfqP79aYNCqDLZcsbJ+72O5r3b WrAABrEAOAaoTo2V8YgNrQwSP9B7YaQI5oqDE4M9tqQPDGV9jAGNPj7o9meBbJilxo3IMz9Oj ndXShYnlI78VwY1l1mDB3Hgcpsx74Qao8RwFU9lXDfYIAqxfDHpMHyN9zi1mAqneNE258S07c 48oLMRqA1KBC3+5ptG9t0KImQUTvZPbmOnlYlsBXxS5+zEFSeIxeA5ONDyQgNWrnq1E19o5Xy sCltnT6Qo/xAgIjZXY9uV3PsZXy1PipTpceS1RnyR8U36HYOSJCk0dq4LiUc1aX20gZeJfddZ fQswJcHZS3TQnCB3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2018 17:58:32 -0000 On Mon, 20 Aug 2018 13:41:44 +0530, Balaji Balaji wrote: > We have Server PC with FreeBSD 6.3 used in Toshiba MRI > for store rawdata. FreeBSD 6.3 is out of support for several years already. If you can, consider upgrading that system to a version that receives support. However, FreeBSD is known to run for decades (if maintained properly, or _not_ touched at all). :-) > Now we have following problem in server PC it is not booting fully showing > error > Mounting /etc/fstab filesystems failed, startup aborted > /etc/rc:Warning:$true is not set properly -see rc.conf(5) What does "now" mean in this context? Did it happen suddenly out of nowhere, or did you change something on the server? If yes, what did you change? The error seems to indicate some problem with /etc/rc.conf content. Maybe this older discussion is helpful: https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2016-March/270788.html Check in /etc/rc.conf if you somewhere have a line like "true=" in it... But that is a warning. Probably there's an error with bigger impact related to mounting, maybe an error in /etc/fstab? You could try to boot the system into single user mode first ("boot -s" at loader prompt), then run "fsck", and finally "mount -a". This should give you a good indication of what could be the problem. > attached picture 1 with booting error This mailing list does not support non-text attachments. Please upload the picture somewhere - or even better, especially for future reference, type the error message (and all other important information that might appear on the server) directly into the message. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Aug 21 02:51:16 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EF461086710 for ; Tue, 21 Aug 2018 02:51:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olivares14031@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vk0-x243.google.com (mail-vk0-x243.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c05::243]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3839C8ECAD for ; Tue, 21 Aug 2018 02:51:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olivares14031@gmail.com) Received: by mail-vk0-x243.google.com with SMTP id s17-v6so7536662vke.10 for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2018 19:51:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=NmWvysS09U8tgeP14h4NovAcNEPzvM7tRZOYSDkQgFE=; b=h4pur0ST+omLYP/OaHJ9ls5y//9qqnkDoma5LiPvCdAt2vhyEPpRZEwrZrgl0HcRGg EtPbus+cK9LSgYR/aJe6748vxPZcZEadph/ItS2d/THhoL3TrjaBDTrBxvxmwXSATCeh UV4i0Ms7Hk1k+JGY5HQZyY8QqjzksoXkATuAzqEiQTOexJ0Qo/4zI06g8GyGBxDhzvM/ syHOU91E0AnMjTAYG0UH41go18/WcPSdKgjnPTzjwfNV5Wfgzm2gySoGiHiGzpb/L26+ EJm+4DQbvEAfibnJL17GVkmsF3sN6N5oP8epkmELoCf+FAPKCM1m4veLFtO3lEip3No9 LR9w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=NmWvysS09U8tgeP14h4NovAcNEPzvM7tRZOYSDkQgFE=; b=KSuriOmu1auWCL9wMGFwkZIBDPCfkDM2MosTFiXa3mnEbO+EYFMcKukCJp9j5iTtkx nTnHVIIh7OOl45MlwXYhpeEIH8sEVNGljbf0J8SvqcE1mfKaiRpf7rGBbKoh+BWMMyZv b120DMqlCEe6fCw0a96vj4RkFQ5mW8DU+JGq/HsnbnpXyqhLxp0JU7zebFlB4mb+GLxt uNNpL+/0ccXxlgXy1aUa0A0PQ/kgkQfwfDR4R1ntcZFgSdJtEdbplz+Fl24k998TwS+o Nqe5t946sWlniOWp2jLVZV4qZGaq+Vwa5TVjfLwzMK4NUlAG6SNvttC9XaK9HUBM5rIg 8iAA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOUpUlHxAd1ygtAbg8rWwWKUJKTDLl4TA4TJle6FCZX6iNVFCvHcqH6+ RMGJ5r1RhiBCtBAeYjTl7qPgLFhLsFvcdZxbs2/Wdc4exbYXSQ== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AA+uWPy7sQoHM8Ll5GeGs+K7FtCi5dVkpb8NJg5TLU9jTR+2NODOVu1MUPhb8eilqLz6da/b/b6zx7HFPkdMQ7sNQb4= X-Received: by 2002:a1f:b715:: with SMTP id h21-v6mr31735825vkf.96.1534819874926; Mon, 20 Aug 2018 19:51:14 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:a9f:33d2:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Mon, 20 Aug 2018 19:51:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Antonio Olivares Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2018 21:51:14 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: OT-Unicode character to metafont? To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.27 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2018 02:51:16 -0000 Dear fellow FreeBSD users, If one is to include a Unicode character in a latex document one needs to typeset it with xelatex. Xelatex is only available for texlive. I prefer to use latex+dvips+ps2pdf to process documents. I want to include a soccerball character in a Tex/latex document next to a soccer player's name. There is a character available https://m.unicode-table.com/en/26BD/ Sorry for the m here, but sending this from Android phone. I would like to kindly ask if there is a way to convert that character to metafont and include it in my documents? I have tried creating a soccerball using metapost, but have not succeeded. I have tried tikz/pgf but not all my machines have texlive-full nor the Unicode characters. It seems to me that metafont would be the best option, but how to use the specs to generate it. There is Java code in http://www.hoist-point.com/soccerball.htm But it only works in creating an exact ball but for a web browser with Java/jre or openjdk available. An example for this world cup would be Cristiano Ronaldo \sb \sb \sb because he scored 3 goals Denis Cheryshev \sb \sb \sb \sb 4 goals Lionel Messi \sb \sb 2 goals, Etc. This way xelatex would not be needed \sb is a soccerball character in metafont. I have tried converting the character to an EPS file and including the graphic, but it does not look nice. It would look nice in html, but it would be nicer using the power of \TeX{} or \LaTeX{}. Best Regards, Antonio From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Aug 21 05:50:43 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B07F71089DF9 for ; Tue, 21 Aug 2018 05:50:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from balaji@sanrad.in) Received: from mail-qt0-x233.google.com (mail-qt0-x233.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c0d::233]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49F7B74039 for ; Tue, 21 Aug 2018 05:50:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from balaji@sanrad.in) Received: by mail-qt0-x233.google.com with SMTP id r37-v6so11683182qtc.0 for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2018 22:50:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sanrad-in.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=5/RiDoHBfF7pLYe3rOI6VTbEm/G3brjedoF79YJyNaw=; b=dYlRoKi+JMeEpLsA5pjFHmr0kX8bzWRJackoHmudKR8bVdT9HSQZYm/q8v6Y/jk/C+ RP5g6UbPhJPmipwag+fFMyUW4ZGMj/Mo1jfhxfT5VOMK2FCttzK7vtjVR1oH9DClnK0Q nyix2bYM2V85ofMjTzATR+dztCymLQgeNU4xq/3W5wKrJ6mhb1hCPO0CtUphcusEh+Tn Mr57h2+NX91IuZYDTHULInyPKyz0Hy37clUe1CHJ24AlMLWMb+7XZRn7E/iQQQwLduvg TQlFhRBAa1lu8jm/OZA+nGLKLKg870VFTyehEKoBD1YgtvfpwR00vItf7NBEfX9QlYwJ 1oqg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=5/RiDoHBfF7pLYe3rOI6VTbEm/G3brjedoF79YJyNaw=; b=U0PqFGsaeNs3OagBOWBGshp9FaZyjX/fNHrUMWeGJ/MkKSiveRhu0LZpUMtifPZLUu +LfhoU4BSWXgQuVAsodyioxscivkulHBzDbo3OByVHhvAmGm6pfQV2uHfgJSk96iVPat KXFiMKCgSPvlNBuCdVTjT3dJppqIj+3auOKZvyfVbGuY4YabDK3Wddj8lKUnUHAOLUIE c1nskIdf3aQDIMiCecEFJ2/+pkvTLuWQw4ChnJ4UJsZHu+F1stpDlPVNOJ0rAfr0NTW9 +sKl66J+T3qSAWcK8F9b3DNI6NUNXwwgWA/+Q1q+vxQktSJEGHvr5OLa8DMaTy6Is9wr m3+g== X-Gm-Message-State: AOUpUlE+fEblIdBncZuTol2Oi2E2Iak3C9Vt2h3zl+aQSRbjZJ9NRbBY cv7zFCBBZKofyZxJXob4Y5mg8hXFhMcZpoZSgmkeIe8kD3E= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AA+uWPztOvku0Q6xPevnvbGUVxbbobWE1gdqE60xFtnDNb5BcapkmjHsIKIdoxBhuN14ymX+Syp1l1FO4jVeU5jO2og= X-Received: by 2002:ac8:2b23:: with SMTP id 32-v6mr49404341qtu.119.1534830641585; Mon, 20 Aug 2018 22:50:41 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:ac8:5341:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Mon, 20 Aug 2018 22:50:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [103.42.74.138] In-Reply-To: <20180820195821.da9e1d04.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20180820195821.da9e1d04.freebsd@edvax.de> From: Balaji Balaji Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2018 11:20:41 +0530 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Fwd: $ true is not set properly error To: Polytropon Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.27 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2018 05:50:43 -0000 Hi Thank you for the reply, This Server PC is comes in Toshiba MRI excelart Vantage model and boot from Host PC There was problem in server PC hard disk degraded so we rebuild after rebuild Server PC boot without error we connected the Server PC in MRI System and from Host PC we tried to connect but failed and found that Server PC is not booting We tried as per your instruction by entering single user mode we tried to boot -s in loader prompt it didnot work we did fsck it works all files seems ok On Mon, Aug 20, 2018 at 11:28 PM, Polytropon wrote: > On Mon, 20 Aug 2018 13:41:44 +0530, Balaji Balaji wrote: > > We have Server PC with FreeBSD 6.3 used in Toshiba MR= I > > for store rawdata. > > FreeBSD 6.3 is out of support for several years already. > If you can, consider upgrading that system to a version > that receives support. > > However, FreeBSD is known to run for decades (if maintained > properly, or _not_ touched at all). :-) > > > > > Now we have following problem in server PC it is not booting fully > showing > > error > > Mounting /etc/fstab filesystems failed, startup aborted > > /etc/rc:Warning:$true is not set properly -see rc.conf(5) > > What does "now" mean in this context? Did it happen > suddenly out of nowhere, or did you change something > on the server? If yes, what did you change? > > The error seems to indicate some problem with /etc/rc.conf > content. > > Maybe this older discussion is helpful: > > https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/ > 2016-March/270788.html > > Check in /etc/rc.conf if you somewhere have a line > like "true=3D" in it... > > But that is a warning. Probably there's an error with > bigger impact related to mounting, maybe an error in > /etc/fstab? > > You could try to boot the system into single user mode > first ("boot -s" at loader prompt), then run "fsck", > and finally "mount -a". This should give you a good > indication of what could be the problem. > > > > > attached picture 1 with booting error > > This mailing list does not support non-text attachments. > Please upload the picture somewhere - or even better, > especially for future reference, type the error message > (and all other important information that might appear > on the server) directly into the message. > > > > -- > Polytropon > Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... > --=20 With Regards Balaji *Sanrad Medical Systems * =E2=80=9CSave a Tree=E2=80=9D =E2=80=93 Please consider the environment bef= ore printing this email. 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Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2018 08:52:47 +0100 X-Mailer: MailMate (1.11.3r5509) Message-ID: <86303DA7-40D0-4D19-A179-3D5CFF785B21@glasgow.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-Originating-IP: [81.2.70.164] X-ClientProxiedBy: CAS08.campus.gla.ac.uk (130.209.14.165) To cas08.campus.gla.ac.uk (130.209.14.165) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2018 07:52:50 -0000 Antonio, hello. On 21 Aug 2018, at 3:51, Antonio Olivares wrote: > It seems to me that > metafont would be the best option, but how to use the specs to > generate > it. Metafont is a system for designing fonts, rather than a font format. That is, like Postscript, it's a programming language. The output format of Metafont is (or rather, ends up as) PK files, and this is, if you like, TeX's 'native' font file format. This format _is_ documented, but the only documentation I'm aware of is within the source of gftopk (see ), and the format does not, let us say, have extensive tooling support. It's a fairly simple bitmap file format, but you'd be basically on your own if targeting it. If you have your desired character in a postscript font, then you can potentially do the labour of setting up the mappings required to make that accessible to non-PDF TeX. That's not well documented, because approximately no-one does this any more. Fonts were always a nightmare in original TeX. pdftex is better at managing postscript fonts, but it can still be a fuss, and you'd still have to work out how to get a postscript font with the character you want (which may not be trivial) Note that (if I'm understanding your goal correctly), you have a font problem here rather than a unicode problem. You have presumably found a font which contains the unicode character of interest, and your problem is how to use that font within a TeX document. Note also that if you're searching for information on PK files, postscript fonts, and original TeX, and if for example you stumble across advice in a 20-year old usenet post, don't dismiss it as antique: that may be the most current online information about the problem. The big deal with XeTeX and LuaTeX is that they support platform fonts, such as TTF, OTF, and so on (unicode input is one of the other important features of these programs, but quite separate). That means a lot of font problems just evaporate. If you need to do interesting font things, they are likely to be the right tools for the job. The best place to ask for advice is on . Good luck, Norman -- Norman Gray : http://www.astro.gla.ac.uk/users/norman/it/ SUPA School of Physics and Astronomy, University of Glasgow, UK Charity number SC004401 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Aug 21 15:55:58 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 942591076E1D for ; Tue, 21 Aug 2018 15:55:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Norman.Gray@glasgow.ac.uk) Received: from hillend.cent.gla.ac.uk (hillend.cent.gla.ac.uk [130.209.16.102]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 298E489D06; Tue, 21 Aug 2018 15:55:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Norman.Gray@glasgow.ac.uk) Received: from cas07.campus.gla.ac.uk ([130.209.14.164]) by hillend.cent.gla.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1fs90Y-0000FI-2H; Tue, 21 Aug 2018 16:55:50 +0100 Received: from [10.130.248.80] (130.209.203.66) by cas07.campus.gla.ac.uk (130.209.14.164) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1395.4; Tue, 21 Aug 2018 16:55:49 +0100 From: Norman Gray To: Matthew Seaman CC: Subject: Re: Resolving package conflicts (pkg set -o?) Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2018 16:55:49 +0100 X-Mailer: MailMate (1.11.3r5509) Message-ID: <5FA99DFC-04DA-4CDA-95BB-678BB78BAFD7@glasgow.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: <5ecba90f-c3fd-e244-bdaa-b749ca8c4905@FreeBSD.org> References: <03EF2AAC-B928-4B82-BB14-3AF4C009E5E5@astro.gla.ac.uk> <5ecba90f-c3fd-e244-bdaa-b749ca8c4905@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Originating-IP: [130.209.203.66] X-ClientProxiedBy: CAS08.campus.gla.ac.uk (130.209.14.165) To cas07.campus.gla.ac.uk (130.209.14.164) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2018 15:55:58 -0000 Matthew, hello. On 15 Aug 2018, at 17:33, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 10/08/2018 18:10, Norman Gray wrote: >> When installing the 'ceph' package, I get an error: >> >> pkg: openldap-client-2.4.46 conflicts with >> openldap-sasl-client-2.4.46 >> (installs files into the same place).  Problematic file: >> /usr/local/bin/ldapadd >> >> I'm not sure how best to resolve this.  Can anyone offer advice? > > This is a pretty well-known and longstanding problem with pkg(8) and > using the standard project compiled packages. What happens is that > pkg > records dependencies very strictly -- on the specific version of a > package. This means you cannot just substitute one package with a > similar equivalent -- ldap-client for ldap-sasl-client. > > So if you install package A that depends on ldap-client and then want > to > install package B that depends on ldap-sasl-client you are going to be > a > very unhappy bunny. Thanks for this explanation. It reassures me that there's nothing I've broken here! In this particular case, it appears that the conflicting dependencies -- on openldap-client and openldap-sasl-client -- have arisen as something of a side-effect of the package installation process, since net/ceph (which is what I'm trying to install) doesn't declare a dependency on either of them, and building net/ceph the old-fashioned way, within /usr/ports, works fine. I'm not quite sure what this is telling me. However at this point I'm not _completely_ sure of the sequence of operations which have taken me where I am now, so I'm not positive I'd be able to reproduce things. So I'm going to step quietly away from the machine (unless anyone thinks this is interestingly anomalous). Best wishes, Norman -- Norman Gray : http://www.astro.gla.ac.uk/users/norman/it/ SUPA School of Physics and Astronomy, University of Glasgow, UK Charity number SC004401 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Aug 21 19:59:10 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CC5A107DCC4 for ; Tue, 21 Aug 2018 19:59:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.130]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A896194289 for ; Tue, 21 Aug 2018 19:57:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([92.195.99.237]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue004 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 0MSFaB-1fQJrL3Yvj-00TTix; Tue, 21 Aug 2018 21:57:49 +0200 Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2018 21:57:48 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Balaji Balaji Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Fwd: $ true is not set properly error Message-Id: <20180821215748.151f4341.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20180820195821.da9e1d04.freebsd@edvax.de> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:SzEkhDvkyIfV2TW2SF1PvAryyhx0PMZFXMVNbQoe3XVUnkpcykp TElH2OhfrDgU3LP/kZmBddcjgzWoIK6Tv+yT+ezfga0XPBuqP/Klv9zGOOsuRXzzdMKu3bF ieKDiqxUL9vTHT0uHtCQyPQCC1jlQ0REg24pPFy05E0tXdBdLDwSsXJG+fPJTLbkuToTu/y FaQPqmuSvF/t0AriSQF3w== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:ZHbA2AbvHUU=:7GlAuZ5Z8kx30Fo2dO0otW I4wc3BSzrOZyIBlpH9hqgfmGz3JZjcFNWdT62O8KqG3zqokO4rIQ8L2GaD2HHabMNSc8Rm5d9 rZbm8KY0kFOzXt0vOcyZsKdn7gT1HyrxExGrIOMLfOrlYfA1pWGvh2+TyOqy6ZX5OKt87fTox Wj3RWJhsLsYQ+G7SdWjMTg+a6AfYB2XuItcsJ4p3qwV1913rF7rM/8ZLW5oscMFm+GjtgLHR+ pflytmRTPqO99btEn1Mmx+wJTo+yj98SRgj9o6lcOyiyvDFN6VIjZuQxJMnWMYdY3qAGg8CzP Yt/oZo9FRqSpAHYhi7iWZ3Zpm4B58+m/+QJWgcNCogkjFLl45IWAefi+xsCP7ufXfWWhiqW3b 9NCGZx94eCX+fgm+8+gTSxpzi3s3brNFKaLtmUdqSjF5H63178xEz2mDQKyD/QS/iCoCvmah3 MPp0sulK4U7G5Dn1eAn+CsxI0snZS+6Yf4ZarQLiN6Pf5PqPYVmazMxUDZ21z75dV+vHKJQGA LyI23IlMwHMEuIJ5fDsnb8jtchvnfdIIKo/bFWjn+4cIhum7jgKHPq6YTCZMbBGmDVYJhXsb8 jcrLSZe0kZEuEQM/f9LdamXyTSK7Y3Bx3PKb5vT18DnuE6D18BNVxVUg9olCb1tMswp0ZnS2V lem8C/+yBDLMIQ7ozOVvnOFgl7HXzPV5VJ8HhEguPrr3cpZmgZQJnJ5vE1uTsslnTiF9ZH4Pk q0nngbdvyeEM4ecF X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2018 19:59:10 -0000 On Tue, 21 Aug 2018 11:20:41 +0530, Balaji Balaji wrote: > This Server PC is comes in Toshiba MRI excelart Vantage model and > boot from Host PC I'm sorry, I don't understand what "the server PC boots from host PC". Is this some network booting? Or from local storage? > There was problem in server PC hard disk degraded so we rebuild > after rebuild Server PC boot without error Very good. So there is a hard disk with a fresh installation (or from backup)? > we connected the Server PC in MRI System and from Host PC we tried > to connect but failed > > and found that Server PC is not booting Okay, now it becomes more clear: You're using a "host PC" to connect to the "server PC", and you're using SSH / telnet for this purpose? Or some kind of serial console? When you try to do boot the server PC, do you have any direct control over booting (i. e., console)? Is it possible that you post the exact relevant error messages to this list? > > We tried as per your instruction by entering single user mode we > tried to boot -s in loader prompt it didnot work This strange statement raises two questions: 1. How did you try to boot into single-user mpde? 2. When you tried it, what exactly did happen? For reference purposes: https://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/boot-introduction.html https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2004-February/037206.html For single-user mode, you need to interrupt automatic booting, and at the loader prompt, "boot -s" is the command that will bring up the system in single-user mode, and finally stop at the shell selection prompt. Press ENTER at the /bin/sh prompt, "fsck" to make sure your filesystems are okay, then "mount -a" to mount them, and finally "mount -o rw /" to make / accessible for possible writes - which you need when you edit /etc/rc.conf (with "ee /etc/rc.conf"), checking for errors in that file. > we did fsck it works all files seems ok This makes sure the filesystems are consistent - good! However, my suspicion still is that there is a problem in /etc/rc.conf. Can you mount the partition where /etc is located on (usually /, the boot partition) on a different system and check the content of /etc/rc.conf? -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Aug 21 21:41:39 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84F43108024F for ; Tue, 21 Aug 2018 21:41:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paul@ifdnrg.com) Received: from outbound.ifdnrg.com (outbound2.ifdnrg.com [193.200.98.38]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "outbound.ifdnrg.com", Issuer "COMODO RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 163BD97BAF for ; Tue, 21 Aug 2018 21:41:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paul@ifdnrg.com) Received: from [192.168.1.88] (195-26-63-226.dsl.wavenetuk.net.63.26.195.in-addr.arpa [195.26.63.226] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by outbound.ifdnrg.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id w7LLfWnY060906 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 21 Aug 2018 22:41:33 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from paul@ifdnrg.com) X-Authentication-Warning: outbound.ifdnrg.com: Host 195-26-63-226.dsl.wavenetuk.net.63.26.195.in-addr.arpa [195.26.63.226] (may be forged) claimed to be [192.168.1.88] To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Paul Macdonald Subject: stable vs releng Message-ID: <010327df-876b-dc05-e9ed-130f3e8decb0@ifdnrg.com> Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2018 22:41:37 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.9.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-GB X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2018 21:41:39 -0000 Like many i suspect, i have a bunch of boxes on releng, as that used to be the long term support branch. Thats all changed obv , and stable is now the long term support branch. q1) Is it any easier now to change from a releng branch to stable q2)  the offical freebsd download links all link to releng, where is stable for iso/img downloads? thanks Paul. -- ------------------------- Paul Macdonald IFDNRG Ltd Web and video hosting ------------------------- t: 0131 5548070 m: 07970339546 e: paul@ifdnrg.com w: http://www.ifdnrg.com ------------------------- IFDNRG 40 Maritime Street Edinburgh EH6 6SA ---------------------------------------------------- Virtual Servers from £50.00pm High specification Dedicated Servers from £150.00pm ---------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Aug 22 08:14:50 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B542510810B2 for ; Wed, 22 Aug 2018 08:14:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.17.10]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 203B789513 for ; Wed, 22 Aug 2018 08:14:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([92.195.99.237]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue101 [212.227.15.183]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 0Lu5Go-1g0slY1l94-011VMd; Wed, 22 Aug 2018 10:09:30 +0200 Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2018 10:09:30 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Paul Macdonald Cc: Paul Macdonald via freebsd-questions Subject: Re: stable vs releng Message-Id: <20180822100930.44c638f4.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <010327df-876b-dc05-e9ed-130f3e8decb0@ifdnrg.com> References: <010327df-876b-dc05-e9ed-130f3e8decb0@ifdnrg.com> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:J+sPhJAknf9gantqCVMBLV1YX6dQ2487/Fnqn9Zn1RfdnzzUmV6 14IamPa+8DMVZX2wywXqBFN/qKY8yr7tJ3Tl3QfoMveaZdf6oS0LWS9vZVggTCHdC+eyrDZ IuzxPXwjMQ3bM598j0cv4iTkuBHq8yb6sasaLUW0oGtqdkh3SgT0Y9CpA+TiPo6ISGvjbeW 2zq9wJxkPma93/YJdWzVA== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:K24e2banzNk=:+urUdFMA/cGvzdrBH4JLPi jwzhN6Nfap/sOPP4fQlxy2nfwNmSNNtwiw9+FxgFb4uswg1xe6YIdbuPEudzFb2YXuWcaxrE3 toUzvgE0Doi2hQXFRxu26NmaiNNgQcgiAgGFLWt6OjAIwLm2gFAu0Gl6dBi/Iri1/NyxzluN0 3xP0s/+EZhyeSxyTotNmrpwrS3t5L3gRpPzICPn3u3rdkrE/K7CZValFN8rPNqydtwKpSlYp6 RmjDvRcH148w0ytUI/qvRe+PzbPA/Rpzy1+9aRa+xIpipeZLDPgCurRMXIzDuU2cXakO1XAwh sGb7CJECSaHIrK71HO6LyD5ZBpkmU+w1D8vxyV8W3jz23/qpQuekd1FVAbXm0BddQDXeco40N ch4V2NbH+WSqPJF0Jr/a0l8AxEOtxzt9vJcuL8rVrGpvJAQJbT6PBzcrDmgAifl6yFRWFZO8J +DjFSgZSPIS9b1Jj+pwdV5gyDeyCTSDkMDMZmnntZKZEhmVr/tm8SZzob/OFRkXfx7KLc29+m ZI1znC8CNzIGzWWi9pZc6JDBPjnqc9WUVFWAWS/YQmk/Ol5m3e6jG+dUDiDx5GT38EhAQaZdE H1uskxqzNqt44Iztx9AkFsHnJdeM9SZY/KaKGQhLFhUNjH0CrgQ03rxcrPndQ2pvkSVMG/G71 w5PQMJXvuuKcFiCDoAhhGs0GV5yLK2SoJAFnqoyysX2RTxIJRImWcPwKkaGa3fBYYYo2CYVjZ op0Rnn3jkWYAID3g X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2018 08:14:50 -0000 On Tue, 21 Aug 2018 22:41:37 +0100, Paul Macdonald via freebsd-questions wr= ote: > Like many i suspect, i have a bunch of boxes on releng, as that used to=20 > be the long term support branch. >=20 > Thats all changed obv , and stable is now the long term support branch. That sounds wrong. > q1) Is it any easier now to change from a releng branch to stable Obtain the sources via SVN, then follow the instructions in the comment header of /usr/src/Makefile. A -STABLE version needs to be built from source. In order to update -RELEASE, you can use the binary method of freebbsd-update, resulting in -RELEASE-pX, where X is the number of the patchlevel. This is how you get your security updates on the long run. The security updates are "backported" (not the correct term here, I know) from -STABLE, which in turn is a point in time during development at -HEAD / -CURRENT. The word "stable" emphasizes that the ABI is _stable_ (so you won't have to re-install ports, as it often is required when you change releases, even though there are the "compat" packages you can use). More information here: https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/makeworld.html https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/current-stable.h= tml https://www.freebsd.org/relnotes.html https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/current-vs-stable-vs-release.3716/ > q2)=A0 the offical freebsd download links all link to releng, where is=20 > stable for iso/img downloads? There are no such downloads, except maybe development snapshots of -STABLE and -CURRENT which are probably more interesting to developers and testers, not to users. That's the primary reason no installation media is provided - this is usually generated from -RELEASE. This is an example: ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/snapshots/arm64/11.2-STABLE Check the surrounding directories for more snapshots. :-) --=20 Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Aug 22 08:53:07 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3749010821DF for ; Wed, 22 Aug 2018 08:53:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.2.117.100]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BD2AD8ACA5 for ; Wed, 22 Aug 2018 08:53:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from leaf.local (unknown [88.202.132.43]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6DE039A74 for ; Wed, 22 Aug 2018 08:52:44 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=FreeBSD.org Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/6DE039A74; dkim=none; dkim-atps=neutral Subject: Re: stable vs releng To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <010327df-876b-dc05-e9ed-130f3e8decb0@ifdnrg.com> From: Matthew Seaman Message-ID: Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2018 09:52:36 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.13; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.9.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <010327df-876b-dc05-e9ed-130f3e8decb0@ifdnrg.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-GB Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2018 08:53:07 -0000 On 21/08/2018 22:41, Paul Macdonald via freebsd-questions wrote: > Like many i suspect, i have a bunch of boxes on releng, as that used to > be the long term support branch. It still is the longterm support branch. You seem to be confused by the new support model, where instead of thinking in terms of a major.minor version number (eg. 11.2) as the supported branch, it's now the major version (11) that has the long term support and the minor version now indicates point releases along the branch. The idea is that you should be able to routinely upgrade 11.0 -> 11.1 -> 11.2 over the course of the 11 branch. Now, this has proven a bone of contention for a number of people for two reasons: Firstly: implicit in the idea that a minor release should be a simple upgrade is that there should only be more restricted sorts of changes along the 11 branch -- we need a higher standard of backwards and forwards compatibility within the branch. So no removal of drivers, no changes to ABIs, compatibility for 3rd party kernel modules across all the kernels in the branch etc. Some of that I think we're getting right, other bits we aren't doing so well with. Secondly: the process of upgrading from 11.1 to 11.2 using freebsd-update(8) still requires special command line options and is in fact exactly the same in form as doing an upgrade between branches in the old support module. It still feels like a much more significant upgrade than it's meant to be. > Thats all changed obv , and stable is now the long term support branch. No -- STABLE is still exactly what it always was: a development branch. It is less volatile than HEAD and you can generally be confident that if you track STABLE on a machine you won't run into any nasty surprises. But that's not an absolute guarantee... > q1) Is it any easier now to change from a releng branch to stable The process of switching from RELEASE to STABLE is exactly the same as it always was. By moving away from 'RELEASE' you forfeit easy availability of pre-compiled system software. Instead, what you have is access to the source code which you can track along the various branches in the repository fairly easily. Some facility with git(1) or svn(1) or svnlite(1) is useful in this case. > q2)  the offical freebsd download links all link to releng, where is > stable for iso/img downloads? Since STABLE isn't a release branch, it isn't covered by freebsd-update(8), and while there are DVD images and other installer bits created at intervals, those are described as 'snapshots': http://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/snapshots/ISO-IMAGES/11.2/ Since freebsd-update(8) isn't available, you're expected to pull down the system sources and build your own in order to update. As I said: STABLE is a development branch; you're expected to compile stuff... 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FreeBSD amd64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20180818151503.7da44655.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2018 13:56:51 -0000 On 18/08/2018 14:15, Polytropon wrote: > Try to follow the instructions on top of /usr/src/Makefile > (comment header). Before you perform "make installworld", > make sure you have rebooted the system into single-user mode > (with the new kernel). > > Also see "man 7 build" for details. > > yep, that fixed it, sorry for the noise ;) -- J. 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Wed, 22 Aug 2018 09:30:32 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:ac9:6652:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Aug 2018 09:30:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Mario Lobo Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2018 13:30:32 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: VirtualBox and bridging lagg interface problem To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.27 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2018 16:30:35 -0000 Hi there; PC: FreeBSD 11.2-STABLE #0 r336831 rc.conf: wlans_iwm0="wlan0" ifconfig_wlan0="WPA powersave" ifconfig_re0="media 1000baseTX mediaopt full-duplex up" ifconfig_re0="ether f8:94:c2:26:f3:54" ifconfig_lagg0="up laggproto failover laggport re0 laggport wlan0 DHCP" wpa_supplicant_enable="YES" wpa_supplicant_program="/usr/local/sbin/wpa_supplicant" cloned_interfaces="lagg0" OBS - tried cloning re0 MAC into wlan0 and it didn ifconfig: re0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 options=80088 ether f8:94:c2:26:f3:54 hwaddr fc:45:96:fb:3d:82 nd6 options=29 media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseT ) status: active wlan0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 ether f8:94:c2:26:f3:54 hwaddr f8:94:c2:26:f3:54 nd6 options=29 media: IEEE 802.11 Wireless Ethernet DS/1Mbps mode 11g status: associated ssid "Seaway Airport" channel 11 (2462 MHz 11g) bssid 6c:70:9f:da:15:5a regdomain FCC country US authmode WPA2/802.11i privacy ON deftxkey UNDEF TKIP 2:128-bit TKIP 3:128-bit powersavemode CAM powersavesleep 100 txpower 30 bmiss 10 scanvalid 60 protmode CTS wme roaming MANUAL groups: wlan lagg0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 ether f8:94:c2:26:f3:54 inet 10.3.51.3 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 10.3.51.255 nd6 options=29 media: Ethernet autoselect status: active groups: lagg laggproto failover lagghash l2,l3,l4 laggport: re0 flags=5 laggport: wlan0 flags=0<> -- Mario Lobo http://www.mallavoodoo.com.br FreeBSD since version 2.2.8 [not Pro-Audio.... 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Continuing ... OBS - tried cloning re0 MAC into wlan0 and it didn't work. The opposite did. With these settings, host's lagg interface works seamlessly with wired/wireless. The problem: I have several VMs on this machine. On everyone of them, their network interface is configured to bridged on lagg0. If the master (re0 wired) is active, any VM has network connectivity, If I unplug the cable, lagg0 switches over wlan0 and the host never looses connection, BUT the VMs do! Even if boot with the cable unplugged, the host has perfect connectivity but any started VM doesn' t. I can't think of a reason why this is happening and google didn't help, so decided to post here and see if anybody could ahare any thoughts. Thanks, -- Mario Lobo http://www.mallavoodoo.com.br FreeBSD since version 2.2.8 [not Pro-Audio.... YET!!] From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Aug 22 17:38:10 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17B8110900AE for ; Wed, 22 Aug 2018 17:38:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Received: from cyrus.watson.org (cyrus.watson.org [204.107.128.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEAB7807C5 for ; Wed, 22 Aug 2018 17:38:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [198.74.231.63]) by cyrus.watson.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E5B63BC84D; Wed, 22 Aug 2018 17:38:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fledge.watson.org (doug@localhost.watson.org [127.0.0.1]) by fledge.watson.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id w7MHc2G4045619; Wed, 22 Aug 2018 13:38:02 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Received: from localhost (doug@localhost) by fledge.watson.org (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id w7MHc23q045616; Wed, 22 Aug 2018 13:38:02 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2018 13:38:02 -0400 (EDT) From: doug Reply-To: doug@safeport.com To: "Steve O'Hara-Smith" cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: stable vs releng In-Reply-To: <20180822154439.e388b74673a183639554ff5e@sohara.org> Message-ID: References: <010327df-876b-dc05-e9ed-130f3e8decb0@ifdnrg.com> <20180822154439.e388b74673a183639554ff5e@sohara.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (fledge.watson.org [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 22 Aug 2018 13:38:02 -0400 (EDT) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2018 17:38:10 -0000 On Wed, 22 Aug 2018, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > On Wed, 22 Aug 2018 09:52:36 +0100 > Matthew Seaman wrote: > >> So no removal of drivers, no >> changes to ABIs, compatibility for 3rd party kernel modules across all >> the kernels in the branch etc. Some of that I think we're getting >> right, other bits we aren't doing so well with. > > nVidia > I do not understand. If the FreeBSD Desktop support model is a two story outhouse, XORG has always been on the top floor. At least that was my understanding. What am I missing? From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Aug 22 19:00:33 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54B1610922EA for ; Wed, 22 Aug 2018 19:00:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.130]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id ADD4884DB7 for ; Wed, 22 Aug 2018 19:00:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([92.195.99.237]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue003 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 0MJoUy-1frSR02FSG-0018Ny; Wed, 22 Aug 2018 21:00:22 +0200 Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2018 21:00:21 +0200 From: Polytropon To: doug@safeport.com Cc: doug , "Steve O'Hara-Smith" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: stable vs releng Message-Id: <20180822210021.80650aa0.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <010327df-876b-dc05-e9ed-130f3e8decb0@ifdnrg.com> <20180822154439.e388b74673a183639554ff5e@sohara.org> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:sTVq2JgCdwdogh9VMAUa62urhd/V/fwke788SDpHNFJONywQJxI jI3IFnsf4DvFS32ZctBmgxtl77Xdr5sZSApgsFaJw0U2HKvXuGw0b+Q++y5qyVLpf3C8sa+ haWSh4HYP/gugRgSEivn1/J9OXf25KZgO778bD7WsDshlOi5/NmGAwhW9NZhWayOWLVfF1J U1b6A57q8XF9ZZ0CAkt8w== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:CGXzn6EcxOg=:3/cwmbqR9i0KOrdwX31r8t 0MatRmc46w3wHtnaCniY391H7YVJB5B5/nVMqSBT2EHsxiajES6AWwH3+9iXdEHLW0Q5TbPcN B/PI0MMVzujZpNSEhAneOoX5Ql4WLLapY9wAYdkh++Ds73/je5lybIo8e1rpUzHbLKFB1yeVa ic7eLpq7ouUOa6mFIoNX5PTzW7kEpdTDuLV+gEqDNtWPatnf4OhtdgZ4TkdNDZKaD1mXm2sJg hoDCuRszkorHfjrr2d7ClXzlp0+suYZWdepMSEn2Lip4tW2W75LQiasH5caT6PnHN5ZTq4Wi4 RxXsRS0bTnelegUWczAtmaLeaPZRhI2LmuJRiu4MVAL9kLDyFSf0baXVQ33xbw23H6JujlReb yKLkIIZTbE5y/kFPrqm46a1U7uQf/Vw4qQjIWvtc4vw8mA7w4Hxp8++WkOeRrXxWG2Dul0Fu0 HOl8658pMeBVvGjp4XBw8YxieaUizTXIUEvWEkvNNo0khFbH0mMdVM2dIcaVZbw/V06fV1RHy HaVDXWPObAdCiM4VynlCy++agfBFSk2vzL8NC+pXOODLbAui0TN55YbAL0YxqUcxsuhS69rwn 7Lkz1hA5Ydu2cI781WIC+buk4zDHBBJOuKgYydro9inVbvMhIFNu2cihct3b/ziNl91qllLxs zVDhYAUaHloeIri1g2lKXDqTeMcPM+ANxksVgyuOc5oWQw45YKBFWHW6bqrNu15JQ3usAQPYl I8zIsKP5lEnF09C+ X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2018 19:00:33 -0000 On Wed, 22 Aug 2018 13:38:02 -0400 (EDT), doug wrote: > On Wed, 22 Aug 2018, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > > > On Wed, 22 Aug 2018 09:52:36 +0100 > > Matthew Seaman wrote: > > > >> So no removal of drivers, no > >> changes to ABIs, compatibility for 3rd party kernel modules across all > >> the kernels in the branch etc. Some of that I think we're getting > >> right, other bits we aren't doing so well with. > > > > nVidia > > > I do not understand. If the FreeBSD Desktop support model is a two story > outhouse, XORG has always been on the top floor. At least that was my > understanding. What am I missing? I think the main problem here is the switch from the normal text-oriented console subsystem sc to the graphics-oriented vt, which of course means more demands regarding "addressing the GPU". Additionally, X currently requires (!) the use of vt. So while X brings its own drivers, the OS now also needs to include certain aspects of "programming toward hardware". According to the vt page, there needs to be support for different brands of graphics cards: https://wiki.freebsd.org/Newcons Sure, this is completely out of concern if you just want to use the regular text mode - you switch back to sc (as vt has become the default), and everything works as it did for decades. But you cannot use X in that configuration anymore. That's why development on vt is ongoing, but not complete yet. But it is already more than "good enough" to be included as the default console subsystem, as it works in 99 % of the typical use cases. While you can switch screen sizes in vt (except to the one you want), it lacks certain features that did exist in sc reliably for many years. But when you use X, those are typically not needed, and X requires vt, so... those features won't come back. "Just use X!" is what solves any problems. ;-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Aug 22 19:09:49 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0E3E1092628 for ; Wed, 22 Aug 2018 19:09:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com) Received: from s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com (s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com [142.0.176.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5D87E85758 for ; Wed, 22 Aug 2018 19:09:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=email-od.com;i=@email-od.com;s=dkim; c=relaxed/relaxed; q=dns/txt; t=1534964989; x=1537556989; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:message-id:subject:cc:to:from:date:x-thread-info; bh=MDnibeWW52eK0a3Z5EgVWYvftoedG2//q++3+pOVIqw=; b=K63Cx5cyyh/uO0gJ7iUyGX3CUDEjf2hNpp+DX8yy6jXBMdWbrOwOK0SB2JILHi50zPl8XnmD/7B3V4mqlzheO3+0xSnufbBE/GlP4hbmdfO/eO6aErEghXrPMXIXxWRgIqFlzfpTU0FpR6szBYf0hR7UAfqazpZ1JGsGa4s7Y4I= X-Thread-Info: NDI1MC4xMi4xOTkwMDAwMDA4ZTc2MjIuZnJlZWJzZC1xdWVzdGlvbnM9ZnJlZWJzZC5vcmc= Received: from r2.us-west-2a.aws.in.socketlabs.com (r2.us-west-2a.aws.in.socketlabs.com [54.186.58.227]) by mxsg2.email-od.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Wed, 22 Aug 2018 15:09:46 -0400 Received: from smtp.lan.sohara.org (EMTPY [89.127.62.20]) by r2.us-west-2a.aws.in.socketlabs.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Wed, 22 Aug 2018 15:09:43 -0400 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.lan.sohara.org) by smtp.lan.sohara.org with smtp (Exim 4.91 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1fsYVg-000D9v-Qo; Wed, 22 Aug 2018 19:09:40 +0000 Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2018 20:09:39 +0100 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: doug@safeport.com Cc: doug , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: stable vs releng Message-Id: <20180822200939.d5d7016222d14073a5b43fd6@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: References: <010327df-876b-dc05-e9ed-130f3e8decb0@ifdnrg.com> <20180822154439.e388b74673a183639554ff5e@sohara.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.24.32; amd64-portbld-freebsd11.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2018 19:09:49 -0000 On Wed, 22 Aug 2018 13:38:02 -0400 (EDT) doug wrote: > On Wed, 22 Aug 2018, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > > > On Wed, 22 Aug 2018 09:52:36 +0100 > > Matthew Seaman wrote: > > > >> So no removal of drivers, no > >> changes to ABIs, compatibility for 3rd party kernel modules across all > >> the kernels in the branch etc. Some of that I think we're getting > >> right, other bits we aren't doing so well with. > > > > nVidia > > > I do not understand. If the FreeBSD Desktop support model is a two story > outhouse, XORG has always been on the top floor. At least that was my > understanding. What am I missing? When 11.2 came out there was an issue which broke kernel ABI compatibility. The packages are built on 11.1 to ensure that they run on all 11.x which is fine apart from kernel modules like the nvidia one which breaks horribly on 11.2 (panics the box) unless it is built on 11.2. Since 11.1 is supported for three months after 11.2 came out the packages have to be 11.1 builds. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith | Directable Mirror Arrays C:\>WIN | A better way to focus the sun The computer obeys and wins. | licences available see You lose and Bill collects. | http://www.sohara.org/ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Aug 22 20:08:43 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 228D71094781 for ; Wed, 22 Aug 2018 20:08:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Received: from bucksport.safeport.com (bucksport.safeport.com [198.74.231.101]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C9619895F7 for ; Wed, 22 Aug 2018 20:08:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Received: from bucksport.safeport.com (bucksport.safeport.com [198.74.231.101]) by bucksport.safeport.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id w7MJoYsv069024; Wed, 22 Aug 2018 15:50:34 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2018 15:50:34 -0400 (EDT) From: DTD To: Polytropon cc: "Steve O'Hara-Smith" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: stable vs releng In-Reply-To: <20180822210021.80650aa0.freebsd@edvax.de> Message-ID: References: <010327df-876b-dc05-e9ed-130f3e8decb0@ifdnrg.com> <20180822154439.e388b74673a183639554ff5e@sohara.org> <20180822210021.80650aa0.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (bucksport.safeport.com [198.74.231.101]); Wed, 22 Aug 2018 15:50:34 -0400 (EDT) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2018 20:08:43 -0000 On Wed, 22 Aug 2018, Polytropon wrote: > On Wed, 22 Aug 2018 13:38:02 -0400 (EDT), doug wrote: >> On Wed, 22 Aug 2018, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: >> >>> On Wed, 22 Aug 2018 09:52:36 +0100 >>> Matthew Seaman wrote: >>> >>>> So no removal of drivers, no >>>> changes to ABIs, compatibility for 3rd party kernel modules across all >>>> the kernels in the branch etc. Some of that I think we're getting >>>> right, other bits we aren't doing so well with. >>> >>> nVidia >>> >> I do not understand. If the FreeBSD Desktop support model is a two story >> outhouse, XORG has always been on the top floor. At least that was my >> understanding. What am I missing? > > I think the main problem here is the switch from the > normal text-oriented console subsystem sc to the > graphics-oriented vt, which of course means more > demands regarding "addressing the GPU". Additionally, > X currently requires (!) the use of vt. So while X > brings its own drivers, the OS now also needs to > include certain aspects of "programming toward > hardware". > > According to the vt page, there needs to be support > for different brands of graphics cards: > > https://wiki.freebsd.org/Newcons > > Sure, this is completely out of concern if you just > want to use the regular text mode - you switch back > to sc (as vt has become the default), and everything > works as it did for decades. But you cannot use X in > that configuration anymore. That's why development > on vt is ongoing, but not complete yet. But it is > already more than "good enough" to be included as > the default console subsystem, as it works in 99 % > of the typical use cases. > > While you can switch screen sizes in vt (except to > the one you want), it lacks certain features that > did exist in sc reliably for many years. But when > you use X, those are typically not needed, and X > requires vt, so... those features won't come back. > "Just use X!" is what solves any problems. ;-) Indeed, I totally overlooked that. Thanks guys. I have just accepted what the console does to me. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Aug 23 06:30:18 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19D5F10827BD for ; Thu, 23 Aug 2018 06:30:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@borh.eu) Received: from gw2.borh.eu (31-208-8-210.cust.bredband2.com [31.208.8.210]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "gw2.news4all.se", Issuer "gw2.news4all.se" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8E978830F3 for ; Thu, 23 Aug 2018 06:30:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@borh.eu) Received: from testbox.borh.eu (testbox.news4all.se [10.0.0.3] (may be forged)) by gw2.borh.eu (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id w7N6bq6D065237; Thu, 23 Aug 2018 08:37:52 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from bah@borh.eu) Subject: Re: PyQt4 To: Michael Beasley Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" References: <60a28021-8b13-4c2a-3afd-803f1b1f9afe@borh.eu> <73FEA2F9-C28C-41BC-855B-125C6F3A6E45@gmail.com> From: Bernt Hansson Message-ID: <39b1e830-2a72-2d14-6972-0560b59f11a5@borh.eu> Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2018 08:22:05 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.9.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <73FEA2F9-C28C-41BC-855B-125C6F3A6E45@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2018 06:30:18 -0000 On 07/18/18 22:16, Michael Beasley wrote: > >> On Jul 15, 2018, at 22:18, Bernt Hansson wrote: >> >> On 07/16/18 04:59, Shane Ambler wrote: >>> On 15/07/2018 21:38, Bernt Hansson wrote: >>>> Hello list. >>>> >>>> Trying to get a python script working again but no luck so far. >>>> >>>> This is the error i'm getting >>>> >>>> % python flatcam.py >>>> Traceback (most recent call last): >>>> Â File "flatcam.py", line 2, in >>>> Â Â Â from PyQt4 import QtGui >>>> ImportError: No module named PyQt4 >>>> >>>> I've installed py-qt4 but no luck. >>>> >>>> Where do i find qtgui and pyqt4? >>> pyqt is installed for a specific python version, you need to use the >>> same python version that has pyqt4 installed. >> python --version >> Python 2.7.15 >> >> Py-qt4 is installed as py27-qt4 and py36-qt4. Still it is not found. > At a Python shell prompt try - help(‘modules’); to see if the module can be seen by your Python installation. No pyqt4 is found. >>> This will show all your pyqt4 packages >>> pkg info -x 'py[23][0-9]-qt4' py27-qt4-4.12.1_1 py27-qt4-assistant-4.12.1_3,1 py27-qt4-core-4.12.1_7,1 py27-qt4-dbus-4.12.1_3,1 py27-qt4-dbussupport-4.12.1 py27-qt4-declarative-4.12.1_3 py27-qt4-demo-4.12.1_1,1 py27-qt4-designer-4.12.1_3,1 py27-qt4-designerplugin-4.12.1,1 py27-qt4-doc-4.12.1,1 py27-qt4-gui-4.12.1_3,1 py27-qt4-help-4.12.1_3 py27-qt4-multimedia-4.12.1_3 py27-qt4-network-4.12.1_3,1 py27-qt4-opengl-4.12.1_3,1 py27-qt4-phonon-4.12.1_4 py27-qt4-qscintilla2-2.10.4,1 py27-qt4-script-4.12.1_3,1 py27-qt4-scripttools-4.12.1_3,1 py27-qt4-sql-4.12.1_3,1 py27-qt4-svg-4.12.1_3,1 py27-qt4-test-4.12.1_3,1 py27-qt4-webkit-4.12.1_3 py27-qt4-xml-4.12.1_3,1 py27-qt4-xmlpatterns-4.12.1_3 >>> To see what python flavoured packages are available - >>> pkg search 'py[23][0-9]-qt4' py27-qt4-4.12.1_1              Python bindings for the Qt 4 toolkit (meta port) py27-qt4-assistant-4.12.1_3,1  Python bindings for the Qt4 toolkit, QtAssistant module py27-qt4-core-4.12.1_7,1       Python bindings for the Qt4 toolkit, QtCore module py27-qt4-dbus-4.12.1_3,1       Python bindings for the Qt4 toolkit, QtDBus module py27-qt4-dbussupport-4.12.1    Qt event loop support for dbus-python py27-qt4-declarative-4.12.1_3  Python bindings for the Qt4 toolkit, QtDeclarative module py27-qt4-demo-4.12.1_1,1       Python bindings for the Qt4 toolkit, Qt demo and examples py27-qt4-designer-4.12.1_3,1   Python bindings for the Qt4 toolkit, QtDesigner module py27-qt4-designerplugin-4.12.1,1 Python bindings for the Qt4 toolkit, QtDesigner plugin py27-qt4-doc-4.12.1,1          Python bindings for the Qt4 toolkit, documentation py27-qt4-gui-4.12.1_3,1        Python bindings for the Qt4 toolkit, QtGui module py27-qt4-help-4.12.1_3         Python bindings for the Qt4 toolkit, QtHelp module py27-qt4-multimedia-4.12.1_3   Python bindings for the Qt4 toolkit, Multimedia module py27-qt4-network-4.12.1_3,1    Python bindings for the Qt4 toolkit, QtNetwork module py27-qt4-opengl-4.12.1_3,1     Python bindings for the Qt4 toolkit, QtOpenGL module py27-qt4-phonon-4.12.1_4       Python bindings for the Qt4 toolkit, Phonon module py27-qt4-qscintilla2-2.10.4,1  Python bindings for QScintilla2 (PyQt4), QSci module py27-qt4-script-4.12.1_3,1     Python bindings for the Qt4 toolkit, QtScript module py27-qt4-scripttools-4.12.1_3,1 Python bindings for the Qt4 toolkit, QtScriptTools module py27-qt4-sql-4.12.1_3,1        Python bindings for the Qt4 toolkit, QtSql module py27-qt4-svg-4.12.1_3,1        Python bindings for the Qt4 toolkit, QtSvg module py27-qt4-test-4.12.1_3,1       Python bindings for the Qt4 toolkit, QtTest module py27-qt4-webkit-4.12.1_3       Python bindings for the Qt4 toolkit, QtWebKit module py27-qt4-xml-4.12.1_3,1        Python bindings for the Qt4 toolkit, QtXml module py27-qt4-xmlpatterns-4.12.1_3  Python bindings for the Qt4 toolkit, QtXmlPatterns module py36-qt4-4.12.1_1              Python bindings for the Qt 4 toolkit (meta port) py36-qt4-assistant-4.12.1_3,1  Python bindings for the Qt4 toolkit, QtAssistant module py36-qt4-core-4.12.1_7,1       Python bindings for the Qt4 toolkit, QtCore module py36-qt4-dbus-4.12.1_3,1       Python bindings for the Qt4 toolkit, QtDBus module py36-qt4-dbussupport-4.12.1    Qt event loop support for dbus-python py36-qt4-declarative-4.12.1_3  Python bindings for the Qt4 toolkit, QtDeclarative module py36-qt4-demo-4.12.1_1,1       Python bindings for the Qt4 toolkit, Qt demo and examples py36-qt4-designer-4.12.1_3,1   Python bindings for the Qt4 toolkit, QtDesigner module py36-qt4-designerplugin-4.12.1,1 Python bindings for the Qt4 toolkit, QtDesigner plugin py36-qt4-doc-4.12.1,1          Python bindings for the Qt4 toolkit, documentation py36-qt4-gui-4.12.1_3,1        Python bindings for the Qt4 toolkit, QtGui module py36-qt4-help-4.12.1_3         Python bindings for the Qt4 toolkit, QtHelp module py36-qt4-multimedia-4.12.1_3   Python bindings for the Qt4 toolkit, Multimedia module py36-qt4-network-4.12.1_3,1    Python bindings for the Qt4 toolkit, QtNetwork module py36-qt4-opengl-4.12.1_3,1     Python bindings for the Qt4 toolkit, QtOpenGL module py36-qt4-phonon-4.12.1_4       Python bindings for the Qt4 toolkit, Phonon module py36-qt4-qscintilla2-2.10.4,1  Python bindings for QScintilla2 (PyQt4), QSci module py36-qt4-script-4.12.1_3,1     Python bindings for the Qt4 toolkit, QtScript module py36-qt4-scripttools-4.12.1_3,1 Python bindings for the Qt4 toolkit, QtScriptTools module py36-qt4-sql-4.12.1_3,1        Python bindings for the Qt4 toolkit, QtSql module py36-qt4-svg-4.12.1_3,1        Python bindings for the Qt4 toolkit, QtSvg module py36-qt4-test-4.12.1_3,1       Python bindings for the Qt4 toolkit, QtTest module py36-qt4-webkit-4.12.1_3       Python bindings for the Qt4 toolkit, QtWebKit module py36-qt4-xml-4.12.1_3,1        Python bindings for the Qt4 toolkit, QtXml module py36-qt4-xmlpatterns-4.12.1_3  Python bindings for 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Thu, 23 Aug 2018 16:16:38 +0700 (ICT) (envelope-from on@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th) From: Olivier To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: What hash to use Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2018 16:16:37 +0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2018 09:21:31 -0000 Hello, I am using a tools that hashes the passwords in the form of $2b$10$OQBll77HJqnOR.zqK2jx8ukE6m68Azc7nrsgRdcT6bVfERRmzFV4. What magic tool can I use in freeBSD to do the same hashing? Thanks in advance, Olivier -- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Aug 23 09:32:13 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A643C10879A3 for ; Thu, 23 Aug 2018 09:32:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michaelsprivate@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qk0-x233.google.com (mail-qk0-x233.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c09::233]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49A128A288 for ; Thu, 23 Aug 2018 09:32:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michaelsprivate@gmail.com) Received: by mail-qk0-x233.google.com with SMTP id j7-v6so3135975qkd.13 for ; Thu, 23 Aug 2018 02:32:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=QXYUnrWLG1XEyWDMXNb357sD90zHHc6lbE6Jd41M+3M=; b=c1H9TQ28OR85u2KpKvUb04QLU6RemhTEPMPXQIpLjveLb+oJLrLDTK+ip8+xIcXNp6 4GW0KGtAHUKthEzcmEeHSBex5kkP4epote8MI6tpxjBH/yCBYCHZijk2QSqEQaxNh83H UFV66hjGtaTIBnBqa0VoxYUxePMr1TAGY+wbon9trkQflYa15+HoV8B8v5oIuUhAeDPx JfioAnc36e7nHWN+0Sau/5Ez5jPX08Xns5M8XX3bhPD9JQ1MEjLugKlcmIb6tk/YglI/ hJou+bwyPGb5C3Jq1EV1RxN6sPyhA+xV/FPgIC66rsMjZkRYcC27GNxvtJE5r6fzevAS cKHw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=QXYUnrWLG1XEyWDMXNb357sD90zHHc6lbE6Jd41M+3M=; b=TsNzt79nGO3mj5z9NM9g37O8Gqpd7JtBTIheUQmN9+BA0P4TyZx0d8i5r4fRyht+6U Y3Jrjyf3YcVE6tMt8uB1sUQ/mdQH1eTsiO0b0lNKn8ydVbjIf73N4T0scMdW+qI+dGow vlD/dPVHDzV0a7erOrcjaxtvo55Fk+YSTQBofJjleTcErmqh7dpSFHf/M0hR4Hw6Iw1J Gc+hucXgk1rm/ccZ5vBBoEeLiKXWG1t+0Qs1ACV3UQibGhpThJeHjCoAkCo6GkZzNsX7 F3r0q5RfqPYmBVUQCeZSknL2UTw/p2V4YpYVQCAMdC85ydQhhvqG1R4shE0VtfHcni6d SK7Q== X-Gm-Message-State: APzg51CCRUY+qUag+1NDQosFjpYGxwiuvDoImZ71NvomRooTxPZi02GT 8OfD5SFCJlIH9phuIZrPncoEq7FcOEdKMrwxuTk= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ANB0Vdb4xam1y70EqOMkzsOsUoXq2lltLIN+5VvHJCbU142zJY6JCUT9n+8/48agneJ+MidDre3l/uwyHgSN1oHaFHs= X-Received: by 2002:a37:cb52:: with SMTP id d79-v6mr19928393qkj.16.1535016732727; Thu, 23 Aug 2018 02:32:12 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Michael Schuster Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2018 11:32:01 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Issue in compiling kernel modules (Netbsd) To: vvardhanm@vmware.com Cc: freeBSD Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.27 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2018 09:32:14 -0000 this is *Free*BSD - while there may be a lot of similarities, I'd strongly recommend you go find a NetBSD-related list for satisfying results. cheers Michael On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 11:24 AM Vishnu Vardhan M wrote: > Hi, > I recently installed xfce4 (D > yoi > ebian) on netbsd 7.0.1. and while compiling kernel module. > Its giving me an error like " fatal error: sys/types.h : No such file or > directory ." > usually I compile modules on linux, but in netbsd I don't know the way to > compile modules. > Hope u will help me to solve this issue. 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You might wire stdin to read the salt, or for bonus points make your own salt generator. Additionally, it's likely not a good idea to read the password from the command-line (argv+argc). A file descriptor (e.g. stdin) of some kind would be better, as it will show up in shell history and the process table. Some languages, e.g. python, php, etc will have a library to do this for you as well. 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Thanks in advance. -vishnu From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Aug 23 10:14:44 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71D451088CA2 for ; Thu, 23 Aug 2018 10:14:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [217.72.192.73]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id ADAD58BAE2 for ; Thu, 23 Aug 2018 10:14:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([92.195.99.237]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue103 [212.227.15.183]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 0LcWHu-1gHR5K2NUM-00jsGB; Thu, 23 Aug 2018 12:14:32 +0200 Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2018 12:14:32 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Vishnu Vardhan M Cc: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org" Subject: Re: Issue in compiling kernel modules (Netbsd) Message-Id: <20180823121432.3fec64d8.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:do+wtvMdQjAJbNgtgoGlwXYMRnyMmqNsiMvIecKqkCyBGBrdf1x MhJVG5igQfbC0Ow49PYrM3snUHXJ+0qRfBC47bHBL+aJOrc6oton6zlxSZs3yQnWt1hgBv7 iMQWVXA8/xmDUdx/uRv6/qme6XqJSPrQIfsPbppMeIbknwmaY7A2uyuv+gk1WkQhvJhvyIo 5XFVAxMdI9k4I9mYlBQJg== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:O0/FD92n9Ik=:vL5p2jlmHubZhOZbmnactw xgIB5Q4ZRSox7QyPM5O84/2pBVj+4rsEzJ43TBSZyfUdkjJitK2FM51EMzYWxqLmB8oKzMWif qZMwR3tAYf6ivCw44GJ6mGFnYjEaLWOR50NnpP6+a8h90AgV4dIvP/07D1sqDtnun2omOfaSE m6Xw5C4lU93S3eB4xNhxsMTfUR83Y6KWvgDaHyCQ+eC9diM8pXzMCNUHLsuvJCOMXXh7x1ZwD iem9Srv1OTLx7+o2m53RrRJhcwkdJrWMMoHybPGj0S6TzTd2P6VE3f2YkU2YtFDNe4Kj6nwF1 e7uam7xjWSeRRZUzqqt/5JtqAWLwxOJfef+QijuqU1DHjyrJHj893i8sDpsJ+AWra/7xEtB+V 0Ew/Y+u8qpW8fF9olLBAejgPVj9hS97spC+xjEIXFweL3pjRrTLnO1sp/hbU5hEox8JjLfg7b NUy2uS8s42umWgqT9r1bPXLWy1l0OlKIPdHkVF3vMNLkJJex73tuDYttzem2bCaI/6VTiaqpq qPCUjAAhBv5gQcrxgctd0qbkWTqQ+u9jsLuv4QRqjU2LLBvgQnUAb2n4oprR4dqbIavydm/Qc DLIVOVJT/6LzgtR9LtwhbMn7s72xeDssZf1QT9Mdk3S8Rfer9hrarMH8pk3SPE5Cok3CUuXjF z8OBBQFMtIlDGM33jyrS3XceXWa926RR/nWFqvDBE2xeuw5IkeJN5VAGI8phOYU8MnBfy0fkI vB4/uB9KNUq70/1u X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2018 10:14:44 -0000 On Thu, 23 Aug 2018 09:17:36 +0000, Vishnu Vardhan M wrote: > I recently installed xfce4 (Debian) on netbsd 7.0.1. and while > compiling kernel module. > Its giving me an error like " fatal error: sys/types.h : No such > file or directory ." Does /usr/src/sys/types.h exist? On NetBSD, you probably will need to install the kernel sources (or system sources, to be sure) if you want to build a kernel module. Maybe check if there is an option to use the system's /usr/include/sys/types.h. But you should ask this on a NetBSD mailing list. This one, as the name suggests twice, is for FreeBSD questions. ;-) > usually I compile modules on linux, but in netbsd I don't > know the way to compile modules. Check the documentation. It should be explained in the README coming with the module's sources. Furthermore: http://www.netbsd.org/docs/ -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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I'm having difficulty creating a jail which is able to see the outside world. The various recipes I've found seem to be subtly contradictory: I'm trying to understand what they're doing rather than dumbly following them, and my lack of success here is telling me that my mental model of jails+networking doesn't quite match reality. I think I'm on the verge of a very educational experience.... I'm using ezjail, on 11.2. Sources: * The manual [1] describes basic usage, but mentions release 9.3; I get the impression that ezjail's procedure for starting and configuring jails (using /etc/jail.conf rather than the old 4 arguments) is slightly but significantly incompatible with 11.2. * The ezjail documentation [2] describes setting up a jail using em0|10.0.0.2, very straightforwardly * A forum post [3] describes setting up a jail using ezjail and pf. Now, I don't think I need pf in my situation, so I want to skip that part of the instructions. But I now suspect I'm doing so naively. * Another forum post [4] describes setting up both a VIMAGE and a non-VIMAGE jail, and is usefully explicit about the contents of the /etc/jail.conf file. This is the one I've been following most closely, but I realise that I don't understand why it configures a bridge interface, but adds only a single real interface igb0 to it (my model of a bridge interface is that it necessarily involves two interfaces, or does the igb0 in the host and the one in the client count as two?). My host is on a 172.16.0.0/12 private network, which is routable locally, though it has to use a proxy to get to the web. I want to set up a jail on (slightly at random) 192.168.11.128. I have: * net.inet.ip.forwarding: 1 * igb0 configured with the correct IP address and mask, not aliased at all * I've created lo1 My /etc/jail.conf looks like exec.start =3D "/bin/sh /etc/rc"; exec.stop =3D "/bin/sh /etc/rc.shutdown"; exec.clean; path =3D "/local/jails/$name"; mount.fstab =3D "/etc/jail/fstab.${name}"; mount.devfs; mount.fdescfs; mount.procfs; host.hostname =3D "${name}.local"; devfs_ruleset =3D "4"; norman { # test jail ip4.addr =3D "192.168.11.128"; interface =3D "igb0"; } and the non-comment lines in /usr/local/etc/ezjail.conf look like ezjail_jaildir=3D/local/jails ezjail_ftphost=3Dhttp://ftp.uk.freebsd.org ezjail_use_zfs=3D"YES" ezjail_use_zfs_for_jails=3D"YES" ezjail_jailzfs=3Dzroot/local/jails I've created a ezjail flavour called 'norman' (with the inevitable solipsism). My _understanding_ is that this sets the jail to use the igb0 interface in the host (a non-VIMAGE jail doesn't have a separate networking stack). I create the jail ezjail-admin create -f norman -c zfs norman 'lo1|127.0.1.1,igb0|192.168.11.128' lo1 first, as suggested in [1]. My impression is that that sets up the loopback interface within the jail to be an alias of lo0 in the host, and attaches 192.168.11.128 to igb0 in the jail. Then I start the jail jail -c norman it starts up sshd promptly, but takes a long time (presumably timing out in fact) to start sendmail_submit and sendmail_msp_queue. Then jexec 4 /bin/sh lets me see # cat /etc/resolv.conf search physics.gla.ac.uk nameserver 130.209.4.16 nameserver 130.209.4.18 # ifconfig igb0 igb0: flags=3D8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 options=3D6403bb ether a4:bf:01:26:7d:b1 hwaddr a4:bf:01:26:7d:b1 inet 192.168.11.128 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 192.168.11.128 media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseT ) status: active ...which looks right. But # host www.gla.ac.uk ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached # The routing table is very simple: # netstat -rn Routing tables Internet: Destination Gateway Flags Netif Expire 192.168.11.128 link#3 UHS lo0 I don't think I've done anything at all exotic here, and the resolv.conf contents and ifconfig output looks as I'd expect. The routing table doesn't have a default route, but (a) if this interface is just the same as the same-named one in the host, so ... *mumble*; and (b) the various recipes I've quoted don't anywhere mention having to add a default route, so I don't think that can be what I'm missing. I'm wondering if there's something to do with the private network the host is on. But that can talk to the network without difficulty, and in any case http_proxy is correctly set in the jail. I've seen a mention of epair(4), but I don't think that's relevant. So I'm clearly misunderstanding something terribly important (and embarrassingly obvious in retrospect), which hasn't magically become clear by my explaining the steps clearly to myself here. I suspect I don't _actually_ understand the relationship between the jail's interfaces and the host's -- they seem the same but not the same in some very uncomfortable way. Any epiphanies gratefully received. Best wishes, Norman [1] https://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/jails-ezjail.html [2] https://erdgeist.org/arts/software/ezjail/ [3] https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/30063/ [4] https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/49561/ -- Norman Gray : https://nxg.me.uk SUPA School of Physics and Astronomy, University of Glasgow, UK [University of Glasgow: The Times Scottish University of the Year 2018] From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Aug 23 22:19:06 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD54B1099C83 for ; Thu, 23 Aug 2018 22:19:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aimass@yabarana.com) Received: from mail-vk0-x231.google.com (mail-vk0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c05::231]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 616818AB71 for ; Thu, 23 Aug 2018 22:19:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aimass@yabarana.com) Received: by mail-vk0-x231.google.com with SMTP id t4-v6so3381409vke.9 for ; Thu, 23 Aug 2018 15:19:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yabarana-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=4sg7wUGJ/Mg+yY8oatq2aXDFhMuO6f1fM+FUMr4mxPY=; b=Jduy34bJgapHQqwIAPtrurEyoLcq0XT0m42JR79b2zcdqxhl3ApTmz1xyEMCFoeRBQ vlVthXETp5uTCHddikY/2LYiQ96d0GO6OAT/H6nA5p2S0EsTqmJCKoIH2ob56pvGgxU4 rkXM//T4pkqwGf5a4KtVGROyLKlNfNCvwGtNP1E1C4uaS0l3A0r1f08birQAbiJG4Jd6 BNbge48HQ4sutWxjWJix6U05ml1ZgUXFrfqqVmNuoj/0DRqS3u+kWRUrD52lk3oD9hNE o/xDovqeyInZY4Q8yvM6ybdA6yCZDeaMC7Fkx+qya85oLgNxud5QxOIhZMgjJ6s9OAQ/ NS0A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=4sg7wUGJ/Mg+yY8oatq2aXDFhMuO6f1fM+FUMr4mxPY=; b=K1oiiWAgOXAkr8zhkFYjy3grHs/kQLJhFBAHCXV4ZySy2O5yhu9s6pk1QgU+UtEX3f eiqGfYp5U2OOWuxp1Q/S3+v/+b8AOZYQ77JDl1e+ZGjxuX+5tbOxhGLV6nD4EanLObP5 SCETTJBRXyRICkgyCORgGprncapcMS34CPKaSNz51CJPRwsIarT7MMJ+z93f//tUum/k ZKnSGbeqr11uqERAw0MDW713xhqbaoC3Mhj5zY8UdVhpkQrYXdHl3QtLFncux/ngQWpm W+XNlitTvmYYsWad1pT7615E2bcbQzMkHhdCKdO9AY9DoK4KS8kYwzNdjYKpjQ8zWnU4 ZjjA== X-Gm-Message-State: APzg51BKxWg0XaTHEWiWw3/Cy+7+5MjZnIMMJ8N1Xh7EvMvw7WnGWJUS wpu+m9lAhgaJNfgsM+ArQvC4STOK26WwWTR9RhsFsw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ANB0Vdb+6thXyNsk/FeJz0ke8aF3jJKWNa+RbGsOj9rTfvph5Py/Rizx7TO7bnc1Vddyp8e1nPbJG4A1xGq09NKhKDc= X-Received: by 2002:a1f:3547:: with SMTP id c68-v6mr12105076vka.150.1535062744686; Thu, 23 Aug 2018 15:19:04 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <6B17F10B-F3AE-45C5-8011-EBE52462230E@glasgow.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: <6B17F10B-F3AE-45C5-8011-EBE52462230E@glasgow.ac.uk> From: Alejandro Imass Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2018 18:18:53 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Jails and networks To: Norman Gray Cc: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.27 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2018 22:19:06 -0000 On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 3:49 PM Norman Gray wrote: > > Greetings. > > I'm having difficulty creating a jail which is able to see the outside > world. The various recipes I've found seem to be subtly contradictory: > I'm trying to understand what they're doing rather than dumbly following > them, and my lack of success here is telling me that my mental model of > jails+networking doesn't quite match reality. I think I'm on the verge > of a very educational experience.... > > I'm using ezjail, on 11.2. > > Sources: > > * The manual [1] describes basic usage, but mentions release 9.3; I > get the impression that ezjail's procedure for starting and configuring > jails (using /etc/jail.conf rather than the old 4 arguments) is slightly > but significantly incompatible with 11.2. > > * The ezjail documentation [2] describes setting up a jail using > em0|10.0.0.2, very straightforwardly > > * A forum post [3] describes setting up a jail using ezjail and pf. > Now, I don't think I need pf in my situation, so I want to skip that > part of the instructions. But I now suspect I'm doing so naively. > > * Another forum post [4] describes setting up both a VIMAGE and a > non-VIMAGE jail, and is usefully explicit about the contents of the > /etc/jail.conf file. This is the one I've been following most closely, > but I realise that I don't understand why it configures a bridge > interface, but adds only a single real interface igb0 to it (my model of > a bridge interface is that it necessarily involves two interfaces, or > does the igb0 in the host and the one in the client count as two?). > > My host is on a 172.16.0.0/12 private network, which is routable > locally, though it has to use a proxy to get to the web. I want to set > up a jail on (slightly at random) 192.168.11.128. > > I have: > > * net.inet.ip.forwarding: 1 > * igb0 configured with the correct IP address and mask, not aliased > at all > * I've created lo1 > > My /etc/jail.conf looks like > > exec.start =3D "/bin/sh /etc/rc"; > exec.stop =3D "/bin/sh /etc/rc.shutdown"; > exec.clean; > > path =3D "/local/jails/$name"; > > mount.fstab =3D "/etc/jail/fstab.${name}"; > mount.devfs; > mount.fdescfs; > mount.procfs; > > host.hostname =3D "${name}.local"; > > devfs_ruleset =3D "4"; > > norman { > # test jail > ip4.addr =3D "192.168.11.128"; > interface =3D "igb0"; > } > > and the non-comment lines in /usr/local/etc/ezjail.conf look like > > ezjail_jaildir=3D/local/jails > ezjail_ftphost=3Dhttp://ftp.uk.freebsd.org > ezjail_use_zfs=3D"YES" > ezjail_use_zfs_for_jails=3D"YES" > ezjail_jailzfs=3Dzroot/local/jails > > I've created a ezjail flavour called 'norman' (with the inevitable > solipsism). > > My _understanding_ is that this sets the jail to use the igb0 interface > in the host (a non-VIMAGE jail doesn't have a separate networking > stack). > > I create the jail > > ezjail-admin create -f norman -c zfs norman > 'lo1|127.0.1.1,igb0|192.168.11.128' > > lo1 first, as suggested in [1]. My impression is that that sets up the > loopback interface within the jail to be an alias of lo0 in the host, > and attaches 192.168.11.128 to igb0 in the jail. > > Then I start the jail > If you are using ezjail then use eazjail-admin or /usr/local/etc/rc.d/ezjail start xxxx I.e. if ezjail is managing your jails then use ezjail admin and avoid any jail specific commands except for jls How do you know your jails can=E2=80=99t access the Internet ? ping and some network commands are restricted in jails but can try wget or curl to test. Or maybe pkg update to test I can help you a lot with ezjail. I=E2=80=99ve used for years and it=E2=80= =99s a great system. Best, Alex > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Aug 24 02:25:18 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C987109E799 for ; Fri, 24 Aug 2018 02:25:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Olivier.Nicole@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6AFCD727D2 for ; Fri, 24 Aug 2018 02:25:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Olivier.Nicole@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45F4B61F89 for ; Fri, 24 Aug 2018 09:25:12 +0700 (+07) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cs.ait.ac.th; h= content-type:content-type:mime-version:message-id:date:date :in-reply-to:subject:subject:from:from:received:received :received; s=selector1; t=1535077511; x=1536891912; bh=+R4oRgmA/ 3/oQ4cz6owz/JZRM1mZ89isTTHrtg+T9xM=; b=lc0WDvwUIisNgOO0NZdUYi+dY 4vbF9rAgtzQJZIR+HXL6SwTOpU6vdBd1+K74JxmQB6Fetk9OYFP9/pVsZPWtJzFT //Rr3NKpByEBBk09CxdTzEYyqYCBDppirGAuqye/Kti5w1SyU4EA1B8njYjpTnM7 A9P4mRhaw2HH3H8RHM= X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at cs.ait.ac.th Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id 6xdeuZkzPN6H for ; Fri, 24 Aug 2018 09:25:11 +0700 (+07) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D8BB261F88 for ; Fri, 24 Aug 2018 09:25:11 +0700 (+07) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id w7O2PBXJ041537; Fri, 24 Aug 2018 09:25:11 +0700 (ICT) (envelope-from on@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th) From: Olivier To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What hash to use In-Reply-To: <74a041fe-b00a-673e-c43f-b72aa04e5297@razorfever.net> (482254ac@razorfever.net) Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2018 09:25:11 +0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2018 02:25:18 -0000 "Derek (freebsd lists)" <482254ac@razorfever.net> writes: > On 2018-08-23 05:16 AM, Olivier wrote: >> I am using a tools that hashes the passwords in the form of >> $2b$10$OQBll77HJqnOR.zqK2jx8ukE6m68Azc7nrsgRdcT6bVfERRmzFV4. >> >> What magic tool can I use in freeBSD to do the same hashing? >> > > Try this (cdemo.c): > > > > Then: > > cc -lcrypt -o cdemo cdemo.c > ./cdemo > > This is okay for a one-off. > > You might wire stdin to read the salt, or for bonus points make > your own salt generator. > > Additionally, it's likely not a good idea to read the password > from the command-line (argv+argc). A file descriptor (e.g. > stdin) of some kind would be better, as it will show up in shell > history and the process table. > > Some languages, e.g. python, php, etc will have a library to do > this for you as well. Thank you Derek, I will give it a try. I started looking in Perl, but could not find anything. 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Just take my working settings to start with: In /etc/jails.conf Name { path = "/usr/home/whateverexists"; ip4.addr = 192.168.x.y; host.hostname = "jail.example.com"; allow.raw_sockets = 1; interface = yournetworkinterface; exec.start = "sh /etc/rc"; exec.stop = "sh /etc/rc.shutdown"; mount.devfs; } In /etc/rc.conf inside the jail: inetd_enable="YES" inetd_flags="-wW -a 192.168.x.y" dbus_enable="YES" hald_enable="YES" runlocalproxy_enable="YES" sshd_enable="YES" You can then start the jail with jail -c Name You can then add more of your settings until you have found the culprit. Erich On Thu, 23 Aug 2018 19:44:57 +0100 Norman Gray wrote: > Greetings. > > I'm having difficulty creating a jail which is able to see the outside > world. The various recipes I've found seem to be subtly > contradictory: I'm trying to understand what they're doing rather > than dumbly following them, and my lack of success here is telling me > that my mental model of jails+networking doesn't quite match > reality. I think I'm on the verge of a very educational > experience.... > > I'm using ezjail, on 11.2. > > Sources: > > * The manual [1] describes basic usage, but mentions release 9.3; I > get the impression that ezjail's procedure for starting and > configuring jails (using /etc/jail.conf rather than the old 4 > arguments) is slightly but significantly incompatible with 11.2. > > * The ezjail documentation [2] describes setting up a jail using > em0|10.0.0.2, very straightforwardly > > * A forum post [3] describes setting up a jail using ezjail and pf. > Now, I don't think I need pf in my situation, so I want to skip that > part of the instructions. But I now suspect I'm doing so naively. > > * Another forum post [4] describes setting up both a VIMAGE and a > non-VIMAGE jail, and is usefully explicit about the contents of the > /etc/jail.conf file. This is the one I've been following most > closely, but I realise that I don't understand why it configures a > bridge interface, but adds only a single real interface igb0 to it > (my model of a bridge interface is that it necessarily involves two > interfaces, or does the igb0 in the host and the one in the client > count as two?). > > My host is on a 172.16.0.0/12 private network, which is routable > locally, though it has to use a proxy to get to the web. I want to > set up a jail on (slightly at random) 192.168.11.128. > > I have: > > * net.inet.ip.forwarding: 1 > * igb0 configured with the correct IP address and mask, not aliased > at all > * I've created lo1 > > My /etc/jail.conf looks like > > exec.start = "/bin/sh /etc/rc"; > exec.stop = "/bin/sh /etc/rc.shutdown"; > exec.clean; > > path = "/local/jails/$name"; > > mount.fstab = "/etc/jail/fstab.${name}"; > mount.devfs; > mount.fdescfs; > mount.procfs; > > host.hostname = "${name}.local"; > > devfs_ruleset = "4"; > > norman { > # test jail > ip4.addr = "192.168.11.128"; > interface = "igb0"; > } > > and the non-comment lines in /usr/local/etc/ezjail.conf look like > > ezjail_jaildir=/local/jails > ezjail_ftphost=http://ftp.uk.freebsd.org > ezjail_use_zfs="YES" > ezjail_use_zfs_for_jails="YES" > ezjail_jailzfs=zroot/local/jails > > I've created a ezjail flavour called 'norman' (with the inevitable > solipsism). > > My _understanding_ is that this sets the jail to use the igb0 > interface in the host (a non-VIMAGE jail doesn't have a separate > networking stack). > > I create the jail > > ezjail-admin create -f norman -c zfs norman > 'lo1|127.0.1.1,igb0|192.168.11.128' > > lo1 first, as suggested in [1]. My impression is that that sets up > the loopback interface within the jail to be an alias of lo0 in the > host, and attaches 192.168.11.128 to igb0 in the jail. > > Then I start the jail > > jail -c norman > > it starts up sshd promptly, but takes a long time (presumably timing > out in fact) to start sendmail_submit and sendmail_msp_queue. Then > > jexec 4 /bin/sh > > lets me see > > # cat /etc/resolv.conf > search physics.gla.ac.uk > nameserver 130.209.4.16 > nameserver 130.209.4.18 > # ifconfig igb0 > igb0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu > 1500 > options=6403bb > ether a4:bf:01:26:7d:b1 > hwaddr a4:bf:01:26:7d:b1 > inet 192.168.11.128 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 192.168.11.128 > media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseT ) > status: active > > ...which looks right. But > > # host www.gla.ac.uk > ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached > # > > The routing table is very simple: > > # netstat -rn > Routing tables > > Internet: > Destination Gateway Flags Netif Expire > 192.168.11.128 link#3 UHS lo0 > > > I don't think I've done anything at all exotic here, and the > resolv.conf contents and ifconfig output looks as I'd expect. The > routing table doesn't have a default route, but (a) if this interface > is just the same as the same-named one in the host, so ... *mumble*; > and (b) the various recipes I've quoted don't anywhere mention having > to add a default route, so I don't think that can be what I'm missing. > > I'm wondering if there's something to do with the private network the > host is on. But that can talk to the network without difficulty, and > in any case http_proxy is correctly set in the jail. > > I've seen a mention of epair(4), but I don't think that's relevant. > > So I'm clearly misunderstanding something terribly important (and > embarrassingly obvious in retrospect), which hasn't magically become > clear by my explaining the steps clearly to myself here. I suspect I > don't _actually_ understand the relationship between the jail's > interfaces and the host's -- they seem the same but not the same in > some very uncomfortable way. > > Any epiphanies gratefully received. > > Best wishes, > > Norman > > > > [1] https://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/jails-ezjail.html > [2] https://erdgeist.org/arts/software/ezjail/ > [3] https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/30063/ > [4] https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/49561/ > > -- > Norman Gray : https://nxg.me.uk > SUPA School of Physics and Astronomy, University of Glasgow, UK > > [University of Glasgow: The Times Scottish University of the Year > 2018] _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Aug 24 05:35:31 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B074510A1FC1 for ; Fri, 24 Aug 2018 05:35:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from schulhaus-risi@solarlog-home3.eu) Received: from titan795.server4you.de (mail.solarlog-home6.de [85.25.118.129]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E03F77C8A for ; Fri, 24 Aug 2018 05:35:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from schulhaus-risi@solarlog-home3.eu) Received: by titan795.server4you.de (Postfix, from userid 8) id 1D61A338F33B; Fri, 24 Aug 2018 01:19:30 +0200 (CEST) Received: from solarlog-home3.eu (unknown [107.173.219.107]) by titan795.server4you.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9F7BE33925CD for ; Thu, 23 Aug 2018 02:49:33 +0200 (CEST) From: "Mmatar Relias" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: ORDER Date: 22 Aug 2018 17:50:28 -0700 Message-ID: <20180822175028.C67AA44497D12331@solarlog-home3.eu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.27 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2018 05:35:31 -0000 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Aug 24 08:56:57 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 615561084086 for ; Fri, 24 Aug 2018 08:56:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.2.117.100]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E5E0B7DC0A for ; Fri, 24 Aug 2018 08:56:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from leaf.local (unknown [88.202.132.43]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5C3329E27 for ; Fri, 24 Aug 2018 08:56:34 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=FreeBSD.org Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/5C3329E27; dkim=none; dkim-atps=neutral Subject: Re: What hash to use To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: From: Matthew Seaman Message-ID: Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2018 09:56:26 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.13; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.9.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-GB Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2018 08:56:57 -0000 On 24/08/2018 03:25, Olivier wrote: > "Derek (freebsd lists)" <482254ac@razorfever.net> writes: > >> On 2018-08-23 05:16 AM, Olivier wrote: >>> I am using a tools that hashes the passwords in the form of >>> $2b$10$OQBll77HJqnOR.zqK2jx8ukE6m68Azc7nrsgRdcT6bVfERRmzFV4. >>> >>> What magic tool can I use in freeBSD to do the same hashing? >>> >> >> Try this (cdemo.c): >> >> >> >> Then: >> >> cc -lcrypt -o cdemo cdemo.c >> ./cdemo >> >> This is okay for a one-off. >> >> You might wire stdin to read the salt, or for bonus points make >> your own salt generator. >> >> Additionally, it's likely not a good idea to read the password >> from the command-line (argv+argc). A file descriptor (e.g. >> stdin) of some kind would be better, as it will show up in shell >> history and the process table. >> >> Some languages, e.g. python, php, etc will have a library to do >> this for you as well. > > Thank you Derek, I will give it a try. > > I started looking in Perl, but could not find anything. > > I am trying to automatically generate 100 accounts for a software, I > don't want to create them with the web interface, so having the password > on the history is not a problem (and I am asked to have the > password=username, so the quality of password is not a worry :) % perl -le 'print crypt "mypassword", q{$6$RandomSalt$}' $6$RandomSalt$FT6f31B0cyE4q.vCLfpCcAXbX5EYr2fvZW4ILgpUj97sTcZtkHYBGN8FUHUwqN3wkpVPPr/0WIS1FUW4YD9By. The trick is to add the '$6$ (or whatever scheme you prefer) before the salt, and the '$' at the end. 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[[DELIVERY_INFO]] [[POSTAL_ADDRESS]]= From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Aug 24 12:36:05 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47C8410892D9 for ; Fri, 24 Aug 2018 12:36:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Norman.Gray@glasgow.ac.uk) Received: from hillend.cent.gla.ac.uk (hillend.cent.gla.ac.uk [130.209.16.102]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D26F784567 for ; Fri, 24 Aug 2018 12:36:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Norman.Gray@glasgow.ac.uk) Received: from cas08.campus.gla.ac.uk ([130.209.14.165]) by hillend.cent.gla.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1ftBJr-00073h-Pc; Fri, 24 Aug 2018 13:36:03 +0100 Received: from [10.130.248.80] (130.209.203.66) by cas08.campus.gla.ac.uk (130.209.14.165) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1395.4; Fri, 24 Aug 2018 13:36:03 +0100 From: Norman Gray To: Erich Dollansky CC: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Jails and networks Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2018 13:36:02 +0100 X-Mailer: MailMate (1.11.3r5509) Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20180824115214.775c7464.freebsd.ed.lists@sumeritec.com> References: <6B17F10B-F3AE-45C5-8011-EBE52462230E@glasgow.ac.uk> <20180824115214.775c7464.freebsd.ed.lists@sumeritec.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-Originating-IP: [130.209.203.66] X-ClientProxiedBy: CAS08.campus.gla.ac.uk (130.209.14.165) To cas08.campus.gla.ac.uk (130.209.14.165) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2018 12:36:05 -0000 Erich, hello. On 24 Aug 2018, at 4:52, Erich Dollansky wrote: > I did not go through your e-mail. Just take my working settings to > start with: Thanks for this. My problem is that my /etc/jail.conf is already very simple, exec.start = "/bin/sh /etc/rc"; exec.stop = "/bin/sh /etc/rc.shutdown"; exec.clean; path = "/local/jails/$name"; mount.fstab = "/etc/jail/fstab.${name}"; mount.devfs; host.hostname = "${name}.local"; devfs_ruleset = "4"; norman { ip4.addr = "192.168.11.128"; interface = "igb0"; } and my jail's /etc/rc.conf even simpler than yours # cat /etc/rc.conf syslogd_flags="-ss" # But still 'host www.freebsd.org' times out within the jail. There's something important about jail networking that I'm not understanding, but I haven't a clue what it is. Most frustrating. Best wishes, Norman -- Norman Gray : https://nxg.me.uk SUPA School of Physics and Astronomy, University of Glasgow, UK From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Aug 24 12:36:03 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D3DD10892D6 for ; Fri, 24 Aug 2018 12:36:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Norman.Gray@glasgow.ac.uk) Received: from hillend.cent.gla.ac.uk (hillend.cent.gla.ac.uk [130.209.16.102]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 962A984566 for ; Fri, 24 Aug 2018 12:36:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Norman.Gray@glasgow.ac.uk) Received: from cas08.campus.gla.ac.uk ([130.209.14.165]) by hillend.cent.gla.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1ftBJo-00073Z-M8; Fri, 24 Aug 2018 13:36:00 +0100 Received: from [10.130.248.80] (130.209.203.66) by cas08.campus.gla.ac.uk (130.209.14.165) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1395.4; Fri, 24 Aug 2018 13:36:00 +0100 From: Norman Gray To: Alejandro Imass CC: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Jails and networks Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2018 13:35:59 +0100 X-Mailer: MailMate (1.11.3r5509) Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: <6B17F10B-F3AE-45C5-8011-EBE52462230E@glasgow.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Originating-IP: [130.209.203.66] X-ClientProxiedBy: CAS08.campus.gla.ac.uk (130.209.14.165) To cas08.campus.gla.ac.uk (130.209.14.165) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2018 12:36:03 -0000 Alejandro, hello. On 23 Aug 2018, at 23:18, Alejandro Imass wrote: > If you are using ezjail then use eazjail-admin or > /usr/local/etc/rc.d/ezjail start xxxx > > I.e. if ezjail is managing your jails then use ezjail admin and avoid = > any > jail specific commands except for jls Thanks for this advice. However I don't think this is the root of my = problem. I can do: # ezjail-admin create -c zfs norman = 'lo1|127.0.1.1,igb0|192.168.11.128' # ezjail-admin onestart norman # ezjail-admin console norman I can still see, inside the jail console, igb0: flags=3D8843 metric 0 mtu = 1500 options=3D6403bb ether a4:bf:01:26:7d:b1 hwaddr a4:bf:01:26:7d:b1 inet 192.168.11.128 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 192.168.11.128 media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseT ) status: active lo0: flags=3D8049 metric 0 mtu 16384 options=3D600003 groups: lo lo1: flags=3D8049 metric 0 mtu 16384 options=3D600003 inet 127.0.1.1 netmask 0xffffffff which look right, but # host www.freebsd.org ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached # So something is still amiss with the networking inside the jail, or the = way I've set up networking outside of the jail (nothing exotic at all as = far as I'm aware), and I'm at a loss as to what it might be, or how to = debug it. There's something important about jail networking that I'm not = understanding, but I haven't a clue what it is. Most frustrating. The only thing that's at all odd about the networking context is that = the host machine is on a locally-routable private network within = 172.16.0.0/12, but I can't see how that would make any difference. ---- On the question of 'ezjail-admin start' vs /usr/sbin/jail... I'd switched to starting jails with /usr/sbin/jail partly because I'd = formed the impression that ezjail could be used as a convenient way of = doing the fiddly and errorprone work of assembling jails, but that the = jails were standard enough that they could be managed thereafter with = the standard tool. This impression may of course be wrong in an = illuminating way. If true, that's a nice place to be, since 'ezjail-admin create' is doing = work that I basically understand but would do less well, but there's no = extra magic that 'ezjail-admin start' is doing. I'm all for minimising = magic. Also, it seems that there's at least some incompatibility between = current ezjail (3.4.2) and 11.2 jails. exjail-admin starts jails using = the four-argument call to /usr/sbin/jail, which means that = /etc/jail.conf is ignored. `jail` produces a warning in this case, that = this is an 'obsolete' way of starting a jail; the jail(8) manpage = doesn't say 'obsolete', but does mention this call as being present 'for = backward compatibility'. That is: # ezjail-admin onestart norman Starting jails:/etc/rc.d/jail: WARNING: /var/run/jail.norman.conf = is created and used for jail norman. /etc/rc.d/jail: WARNING: Per-jail configuration via jail_* = variables is obsolete. Please consider migrating to /etc/jail.conf. Further, [1] mentions that: > With 11.0 and, as of writing ezjail-admin v3.4.2, startup of jails = > with ezjail-admin is no longer possible. It's required to have jails = > defined in /etc/jail.conf. We can still use ezjail-admin to set them = > up. I don't know about the 'no longer possible', but this suggests at least = some dislocation between ezjail and 11.x. But my main goal is minimising the amount of magic I don't understand. [1] = https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/howto-quick-setup-of-jail-on-zfs-using= -ezjail-with-pf-nat.30063/ > How do you know your jails can=E2=80=99t access the Internet ? > > ping and some network commands are restricted in jails but can try = > wget or > curl to test. Or maybe pkg update to test Good point, but yes, I'm already aware that ping needs raw sockets so = won't work within a jail by default, so I was testing this with dns = lookups (calling 'host'). They just time out. Best wishes, Norman -- = Norman Gray : https://nxg.me.uk SUPA School of Physics and Astronomy, University of Glasgow, UK From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Aug 24 15:10:14 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 927E6108C76A for ; Fri, 24 Aug 2018 15:10:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aimass@yabarana.com) Received: from mail-vk0-x243.google.com (mail-vk0-x243.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c05::243]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 270298A11C for ; Fri, 24 Aug 2018 15:10:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aimass@yabarana.com) Received: by mail-vk0-x243.google.com with SMTP id w193-v6so4448968vke.2 for ; Fri, 24 Aug 2018 08:10:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yabarana-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=OMigRoUBhg2cWq275ZIvtcrmL/LB319kQgCGRG1mXFo=; b=sPjJnBuF5QTnhi6UuE9j6tx8EP+IB+M9bkMNvXNBbl74U7alxzS6mtS05Bt0EYRYwp MLLaI+mLBcEcLMxFDdpnfNeBkJzd1ZT0H/zyUWzgtms4im6Wgjen2VEICjLIz38MREC+ Ajt7sarJtft9IjNbVq8R30IRaPBORc8F6ZmBnOKfK9d8AVWX8Pl7aAj7nODuyd51mIDY pH0fFCkJf/ctO0mTJkmV0aa2sLKSMkuqeNvRYSPjh6AagTw2Xzpf1TRKyleX2KuOhB1u XuoCY/5K7g7VgBr3hfSjN7TLWKMMU43lm2xQVuR5iSkEgTbqq7yxumOjGuNmZ1xRmpgj F7xg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=OMigRoUBhg2cWq275ZIvtcrmL/LB319kQgCGRG1mXFo=; b=Dw48CaVObpyECDcsCTPuYiob/dbyqsJAEK3QGKQyhXq/twTt7L7NL9ZGX9NJnElfQ9 raKl7c4f3cA57W5qMy7IEnsNrFaUM9kmjQuayyVJsCL1Kd2vR5miS96qE4qhDqwAHVZC 9PlB5ASl/v8JgMnzphWmimG5huKGkbUi3kewnRchDRJmesHBGfXgiN47VzmGv7BSYbwk GQtlsCNLxHU5tGNKshukiWB9cDG+YIymM/oOvjXROsun3LETyPuPW4EzToLkD5/5X1Xl iiJe5LlZ3etrZWbVZy+QY96kAq34jRGouxYv+QO6aCpUnDFpOyJGvOY3VbJejrMCZhbN zTwA== X-Gm-Message-State: APzg51Bkbtp9vQGelVSDeDjQRLfrgp11+YDVivZKK68NpC5gPKPYE3HT n6Sq6JuoESffq4uJNLClJSonGhRcGSZzC+dhu5cKgtOb3wfROw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ANB0VdZmuc4eY+Qlb2xNiHyMeFvHgJgSe1irrwpgd8R7eRJSFZ0dLRPp1sTVL3U3l7tWgYOvn4rshM9NWGSn5bhdggI= X-Received: by 2002:a1f:3547:: with SMTP id c68-v6mr1294822vka.150.1535123413295; Fri, 24 Aug 2018 08:10:13 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:a67:3056:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Fri, 24 Aug 2018 08:10:12 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <6B17F10B-F3AE-45C5-8011-EBE52462230E@glasgow.ac.uk> From: Alejandro Imass Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2018 11:10:12 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Jails and networks To: Norman Gray Cc: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2018 15:10:14 -0000 On Fri, Aug 24, 2018 at 8:35 AM, Norman Gray wrote: > > Alejandro, hello. > > On 23 Aug 2018, at 23:18, Alejandro Imass wrote: > [...] > Thanks for this advice. However I don't think this is the root of my > problem. I can do: > [...] > igb0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 > > options=6403bb > ether a4:bf:01:26:7d:b1 > hwaddr a4:bf:01:26:7d:b1 > inet 192.168.11.128 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 192.168.11.128 [...] > which look right, but > > # host www.freebsd.org > ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached > # > > So something is still amiss with the networking inside the jail, or the way > I've set up networking outside of the jail (nothing exotic at all as far as > I'm aware), and I'm at a loss as to what it might be, or how to debug it. > Try by IP to the outside first. Make sure you have a resolv.conf in your jail. Copy the one from outside or use something like: nameserver 8.8.8.8 I banged my head on this for a while. > There's something important about jail networking that I'm not > understanding, but I haven't a clue what it is. Most frustrating. > It usually works pretty much automatic, especially with ezjail. [...] > On the question of 'ezjail-admin start' vs /usr/sbin/jail... > > I'd switched to starting jails with /usr/sbin/jail partly because I'd formed > the impression that ezjail could be used as a convenient way of doing the > fiddly and errorprone work of assembling jails, but that the jails were > standard enough that they could be managed thereafter with the standard > tool. This impression may of course be wrong in an illuminating way. > > If true, that's a nice place to be, since 'ezjail-admin create' is doing > work that I basically understand but would do less well, but there's no > extra magic that 'ezjail-admin start' is doing. I'm all for minimising > magic. > > Also, it seems that there's at least some incompatibility between current > ezjail (3.4.2) and 11.2 jails. exjail-admin starts jails using the > four-argument call to /usr/sbin/jail, which means that /etc/jail.conf is > ignored. `jail` produces a warning in this case, that this is an 'obsolete' > way of starting a jail; the jail(8) manpage doesn't say 'obsolete', but does > mention this call as being present 'for backward compatibility'. > > That is: > > # ezjail-admin onestart norman > Starting jails:/etc/rc.d/jail: WARNING: /var/run/jail.norman.conf is > created and used for jail norman. > /etc/rc.d/jail: WARNING: Per-jail configuration via jail_* variables is > obsolete. Please consider migrating to /etc/jail.conf. > Yeah, I've seen that for a long time now and I've seen some discussion around it. Not sure it makes any real difference and has never been a problem for me. Maybe you can try a the ezjail mailing list: https://erdgeist.org/arts/software/ezjail/#author-contact Dirk is usually very friendly and fast in responding. Qjail says they work on 11 and beyond but I've never tried it. There's been some friction over the years and I sided with Dirk and continue to use ezjail. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Aug 24 15:55:02 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 293D7108DBB0 for ; Fri, 24 Aug 2018 15:55:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Norman.Gray@glasgow.ac.uk) Received: from plockton.cent.gla.ac.uk (plockton.cent.gla.ac.uk [130.209.16.75]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BFC598BF79 for ; Fri, 24 Aug 2018 15:55:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Norman.Gray@glasgow.ac.uk) Received: from cas08.campus.gla.ac.uk ([130.209.14.165]) by plockton.cent.gla.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1ftEQH-0005EU-UJ; Fri, 24 Aug 2018 16:54:53 +0100 Received: from [10.130.248.80] (130.209.203.66) by cas08.campus.gla.ac.uk (130.209.14.165) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1395.4; Fri, 24 Aug 2018 16:54:53 +0100 From: Norman Gray To: Alejandro Imass CC: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Jails and networks Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2018 16:54:53 +0100 X-Mailer: MailMate (1.11.3r5509) Message-ID: <702BA4E1-A1D1-4120-866D-755CB2C76143@glasgow.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: References: <6B17F10B-F3AE-45C5-8011-EBE52462230E@glasgow.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-Originating-IP: [130.209.203.66] X-ClientProxiedBy: CAS08.campus.gla.ac.uk (130.209.14.165) To cas08.campus.gla.ac.uk (130.209.14.165) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2018 15:55:02 -0000 Alejandro, hello. Thanks for your further comments. On 24 Aug 2018, at 16:10, Alejandro Imass wrote: > Try by IP to the outside first. I should have mentioned that I tried that, too, but # telnet 130.209.16.90 80 Trying 130.209.16.90... telnet: connect to address 130.209.16.90: Operation timed out telnet: Unable to connect to remote host # (and I can telnet to that machine -- a web server -- normally from outside). > Make sure you have a resolv.conf in your jail. Copy the one from > outside or use something like: > > nameserver 8.8.8.8 I thought of that -- my resolv.conf is sane. >> There's something important about jail networking that I'm not >> understanding, but I haven't a clue what it is. Most frustrating. >> > > It usually works pretty much automatic, especially with ezjail. That's the very strong impression I've gleaned from elsewhere -- it should Just Work. It must be that I've messed up _something_ in the host's networking, though it's a pretty fresh install on a machine where I'm experimenting only with this. (and yes, it's installed on bare metal, not a VM). I know that the jail's networking will look slightly different from the host's but I'm not sure in just what respect. The routing table looks odd: # netstat -rn Routing tables Internet: Destination Gateway Flags Netif Expire 192.168.11.128 link#3 UHS lo0 # But since none of the ezjail guides have mentioned having to adjust routing, even in passing, I don't _think_ that's wrong. In any case, since the jail doesn't have its own networking stack, it's the host's routing table that matters. Or at least I think so -- this is what I mean when I say that I'm suddenly doubting what I think I know about networking+jails. >> That is: >> >> # ezjail-admin onestart norman >> Starting jails:/etc/rc.d/jail: WARNING: /var/run/jail.norman.conf >> is >> created and used for jail norman. >> /etc/rc.d/jail: WARNING: Per-jail configuration via jail_* >> variables is >> obsolete. Please consider migrating to /etc/jail.conf. >> > > > Yeah, I've seen that for a long time now and I've seen some discussion > around it. Not sure it makes any real difference and has never been a > problem for me. > > Maybe you can try a the ezjail mailing list: > > https://erdgeist.org/arts/software/ezjail/#author-contact > > Dirk is usually very friendly and fast in responding. Qjail says they > work on 11 and beyond but I've never tried it. I think I should indeed try there. It sounds as if this might need some specialised knowledge. > There's been some > friction over the years and I sided with Dirk and continue to use > ezjail. That's also very useful to know. As with all of these things, it'd be interesting to know more about the grounds and nature of the split, but that's not always easy to find. Best wishes, Norman -- Norman Gray : http://www.astro.gla.ac.uk/users/norman/it/ SUPA School of Physics and Astronomy, University of Glasgow, UK // My current template week for IT Management tasks is: Monday, Tuesday, and Friday From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Aug 24 16:51:48 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7072108EDBA for ; Fri, 24 Aug 2018 16:51:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aimass@yabarana.com) Received: from mail-vk0-x22e.google.com (mail-vk0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c05::22e]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5C44B8DBA2 for ; Fri, 24 Aug 2018 16:51:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aimass@yabarana.com) Received: by mail-vk0-x22e.google.com with SMTP id s6-v6so3495023vks.4 for ; Fri, 24 Aug 2018 09:51:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yabarana-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=Fwf8FW1NnnxxMDpRl8VJZUg5GFa79OC1dNf7DMWlV5s=; b=1Yzlmp/YCY2t1STobTJ8wt6cDl5CiMDu1UBMH1apPOzyQ1lQZdS41Ayqk0ZgkiJQFb BaVYMwyuEp23T01V7Sd6kDwZtt6rYKrlNLvwuSHjWRViboXCullSznYAeJoPk/nh94qN 2Wf0bXJ1x23Ds5TF6nx7FVQPte7TUzSdxHVn3jitCVgEhOy2AS0Q+T+/EEyhvjuYCTyh NeYT6V/AStqahmXPKFHgQoANbOCMOYHk2iLl8/gDcUiUjKEx59f8IoDIl935XgxMgYax 80Orvc2aa4kJcoJRlUSL+hKSWP2/CchOQZ2gOwRSOIwCgOhoSok1fXf8GMrLpuorK8Pw RqpQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=Fwf8FW1NnnxxMDpRl8VJZUg5GFa79OC1dNf7DMWlV5s=; b=dUlhvrZEkDtZOwl4D4j4H522/JvnUiOrjOirTvLAaTFskb2teyB26WJ8Et2tF/fgf+ S6wg1Q9p80ljbw2wykl+tszi3W6FMuWDdmFHtx3L2IOTw+h56Vd3WeppOeWAERHiliZE OkAUQh98ZBtV3D42v3d8JNKpQ/knxPfheBW2/ugKpe/Mn/zI90E1PT87WnYDXmtZ3Dlb zMcvbgeUIUT1gIBf0O21Qqu/G1JB6Mb+t8cx8BwYR57M7B4nLf5q2/iO3OfLkG+9ON+x myY/aTP6RBLEtSCYJFLo7fC2H7/xtB3Cuq9+B2Fj56hYg9N13+as2RQtLQLHO9OyWAqI T6DQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APzg51Cjpw3qNaT+UW02ojtGdJ1JkOXjdgs8zjyBFBJIn93zswMACZkG LPMOvWD8wjgLsxb5yG1IhRnIxtRrguXM5asK9F4Xzk55P8eixA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ANB0VdYhGLy3maLLN5woMwjSFf6P0/U51ERSJqT116Mu89phDYHPo73JGGqBDaCzkpbnVMZKU+11HOj6Ub6xzb3ZhoY= X-Received: by 2002:a1f:b443:: with SMTP id d64-v6mr1524385vkf.71.1535129507722; Fri, 24 Aug 2018 09:51:47 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:a67:3056:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Fri, 24 Aug 2018 09:51:46 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <702BA4E1-A1D1-4120-866D-755CB2C76143@glasgow.ac.uk> References: <6B17F10B-F3AE-45C5-8011-EBE52462230E@glasgow.ac.uk> <702BA4E1-A1D1-4120-866D-755CB2C76143@glasgow.ac.uk> From: Alejandro Imass Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2018 12:51:46 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Jails and networks To: Norman Gray Cc: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2018 16:51:48 -0000 On Fri, Aug 24, 2018 at 11:54 AM, Norman Gray wrote: > > Alejandro, hello. > > Thanks for your further comments. > [...] >> There's been some >> friction over the years and I sided with Dirk and continue to use >> ezjail. > > > That's also very useful to know. As with all of these things, it'd be > interesting to know more about the grounds and nature of the split, but > that's not always easy to find. > IIRC it seemed at the time that qjail had shamelessly stolen ezjail source to scaffold their product and claimed original authorship. I think there have been many flame wars in this respect and should not be that hard to find references. Not sure why you are having those issues but I know for a fact everything works fine with ezjail up to 10.3-RELEASE. Best, Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Aug 24 20:25:00 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA3E61092FB0 for ; Fri, 24 Aug 2018 20:24:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from p.gunnarsson@yahoo.com) Received: from sonic301-22.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (sonic301-22.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com [77.238.176.99]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4C99D75285 for ; Fri, 24 Aug 2018 20:24:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from p.gunnarsson@yahoo.com) X-YMail-OSG: bt_xTy8VM1mX.lNwYOnJ.pft_EFtw6RKUPINCyY3P0RkGDKQjlR38BBHh8iog7o V7OyIs9nEY7BEjygEd6z2FLe3i4lDbYyJ76vSvy4tmB_GQjyZMQSdCf5j2MPdq0VmP70UsyRdFtf Od6k4q2IC8DtgmjmOza.x7FCSJHUr8RSnaSF6s6xJIe.gbMHdpSVca5Zz2.4bNQh0ZqB.8Xanqd1 IatBytN39iW7B5LvNM.A5nS8WsdjXhvpyo38uZZHu_mpRVvBW9ZHivtW9LX6pt_YHj_JaB1XPPXp y5XRnmqa_a.SsuiyZsbs2ZnqDx0cS9hX8CVULAMgXdapIQld4WOfBoZ55lRtirPIjuWvAIPGXo6_ IavDX9Od2o9zCRm9ngLeV84tv0csccvsd8fH1na4a2r6OklVS1qA7dkUizTvg2weGEZDXjebB.ss JWl9v9rsBkiIErju3ksE6pQeZfUatbTCceaeHdiorwO4DJkAM2iFGjOJ0EzwxsxoNjCFXInTG33O aRfsnUOs2Rpj36590C2uW5LenlK36FXz8RoYGS77UILFNimW9DYt7H8Xygu58MfDBSX0IBeQVBF6 a4UnpLBahi1vXi53KWH0I8XX4fplEzw8i5ZWvbpLs3N53bSjao.GqbE28MgvUasyjYlFDZNJ8Oxw Rsn_KosACanoyJ79eDCOEpiKMPTEPGCXSwSv1rzss0E7cbiDdCFtdsNUhWllE.fYVAMLNEu5.eaD En4_6A7rxDU62.3tCvY.dyyaQB29v80XK4cUaOXQhMhpgLpVsNpChKTS2dI9sjHqdJtzgv15MC7u 3.w8UQeSQHuOiowEpQqhGCl98R36Pot14rFHgyMjdP6vDIJt486VA_E4CLewa4LkBBV2yEpMgXNn u87jacQIsSk3CGi4RcopkHcSj71_LqoJaRXzfz48rGFx1YkVCh7dmdAJPeQmQym_rh8h60VU70y0 KoC5tarweiXlaDykC7Y4A0KI9vZlWCnscB5esvzy8uRF2wIW371FRAXoy Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic301.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with HTTP; Fri, 24 Aug 2018 20:24:51 +0000 Received: from 108.161.151.160 (EHLO [188.125.73.26]) ([108.161.151.160]) by smtp420.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (Oath Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 03a1ebd8f935e88376d824d25c2340df for ; Fri, 24 Aug 2018 20:24:50 +0000 (UTC) To: FreeBSD From: Per Gunnarsson Subject: How to set the recording volume for a CM108B USB adapter Message-ID: Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2018 22:24:46 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-US X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2018 20:25:00 -0000 Hello! I am trying to set the recording volume for a CM108B adapter. When I check with mixer, it seems stuck on the value 45. I have tried setting the recording volume with sysctl too, without luck. sysctl -a | grep dev.pcm.3 gives me this: dev.pcm.3.feedback_rate: 0 dev.pcm.3.mixer.mute_4.desc: dev.pcm.3.mixer.mute_4.max: 1 dev.pcm.3.mixer.mute_4.min: 0 dev.pcm.3.mixer.mute_4.val: 0 dev.pcm.3.mixer.vol_3.desc: dev.pcm.3.mixer.vol_3.max: 6096 dev.pcm.3.mixer.vol_3.min: 0 dev.pcm.3.mixer.vol_3.val: 6096 dev.pcm.3.mixer.agc_2.desc: dev.pcm.3.mixer.agc_2.max: 1 dev.pcm.3.mixer.agc_2.min: 0 dev.pcm.3.mixer.agc_2.val: 0 dev.pcm.3.mixer.mute_1.desc: USB PnP Sound Device dev.pcm.3.mixer.mute_1.max: 1 dev.pcm.3.mixer.mute_1.min: 0 dev.pcm.3.mixer.mute_1.val: 0 dev.pcm.3.mixer.vol_0_1.desc: USB PnP Sound Device dev.pcm.3.mixer.vol_0_1.max: -16 dev.pcm.3.mixer.vol_0_1.min: -7264 dev.pcm.3.mixer.vol_0_1.val: -1836 dev.pcm.3.mixer.vol_0_0.desc: USB PnP Sound Device dev.pcm.3.mixer.vol_0_0.max: -16 dev.pcm.3.mixer.vol_0_0.min: -7264 dev.pcm.3.mixer.vol_0_0.val: -1836 dev.pcm.3.bitperfect: 0 dev.pcm.3.buffersize: 0 dev.pcm.3.rec.vchanformat: s16le:2.0 dev.pcm.3.rec.vchanrate: 48000 dev.pcm.3.rec.vchanmode: fixed dev.pcm.3.rec.vchans: 1 dev.pcm.3.play.vchanformat: s16le:2.0 dev.pcm.3.play.vchanrate: 48000 dev.pcm.3.play.vchanmode: fixed dev.pcm.3.play.vchans: 1 dev.pcm.3.hwvol_mixer: vol dev.pcm.3.hwvol_step: 5 dev.pcm.3.%parent: uaudio0 dev.pcm.3.%pnpinfo: dev.pcm.3.%location: dev.pcm.3.%driver: pcm dev.pcm.3.%desc: USB audio From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Aug 24 22:24:55 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D5BC109592A for ; Fri, 24 Aug 2018 22:24:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoreno3@hotmail.com) Received: from NAM04-BN3-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-oln040092009051.outbound.protection.outlook.com [40.92.9.51]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mail.protection.outlook.com", Issuer "Microsoft IT TLS CA 4" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1B43579BB3 for ; Fri, 24 Aug 2018 22:24:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoreno3@hotmail.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=hotmail.com; s=selector1; h=From:Date:Subject:Message-ID:Content-Type:MIME-Version:X-MS-Exchange-SenderADCheck; bh=PBwjmJYptQhDeurPMlAVwseICSNcGtzJjjrzqERGIHA=; b=BQmrcYbRowzXeMMpCanT7oBuc+tQ8Qz/qnCh7LF4II6ToslaKldzu59y90+3tEEtAkDoCT2Y9mVh92yswWLSeTaLNWm+vhUleKIhq9JUTEVYEy9J+aNblSyoOPewmigcizIXi/qOnm0d/b41lX53I5HrrniDC6xttZnXd9cBp8YhNjQPkmfR7yRVZlrXvFtrgyCy0SeriqVOmMQSC5fu5x8DVJ9mA4C7wrz9jFrfXCqVk+IAKKHA7/Um5BzZdZt9zZ7fGW3RpXY0nb9WyTcOblimx/Q89ChGQcIVZan7CZ4/JuVVuJnFqWqa+nFn+XDT/atZ/c6bTnd4f8fPmV3Okw== Received: from BN3NAM04FT031.eop-NAM04.prod.protection.outlook.com (10.152.92.58) by BN3NAM04HT179.eop-NAM04.prod.protection.outlook.com (10.152.92.230) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA384_P384) id 15.20.1080.9; Fri, 24 Aug 2018 22:24:52 +0000 Received: from DM5PR19MB0057.namprd19.prod.outlook.com (10.152.92.59) by BN3NAM04FT031.mail.protection.outlook.com (10.152.92.64) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA256_P256) id 15.20.1080.9 via Frontend Transport; Fri, 24 Aug 2018 22:24:52 +0000 Received: from DM5PR19MB0057.namprd19.prod.outlook.com ([fe80::e9e7:cc43:ba29:2fa5]) by DM5PR19MB0057.namprd19.prod.outlook.com ([fe80::e9e7:cc43:ba29:2fa5%4]) with mapi id 15.20.1080.015; Fri, 24 Aug 2018 22:24:52 +0000 From: William Moreno To: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org" Subject: 30.3. 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A Simple Gateway with NAT pass in on xl1 from xl1:network to xl0:network port $ports keep state pass out on xl0 from xl1:network to xl0:network port $ports keep state pass from $localnet to any port $ports keep state Please explain me: How to implement =93 xl1:network - xl0:network - $localn= et =93 ? I tried different forms but negative, maybe yours commands are deprecated. = Am I ready? The following configuration is ready and test was OK in my FreeBSD 11.2 Ser= ver. root@server:~ # cat /etc/pf.conf # $FreeBSD: releng/11.2/share/examples/pf/pf.conf 293862 2016-01-14 0= 1:32:17Z kevlo $ # $OpenBSD: pf.conf,v 1.34 2007/02/24 19:30:59 millert Exp $ # # See pf.conf(5) and /usr/share/examples/pf for syntax and examples. # Remember to set gateway_enable=3D"YES" and/or ipv6_gateway_enable=3D"YES" # in /etc/rc.conf if packets are to be forwarded between interfaces. ext_if=3D"igb0" int_if=3D"igb1" table persist set skip on lo scrub in #nat-anchor "ftp-proxy/*" #rdr-anchor "ftp-proxy/*" nat on $ext_if inet from !($ext_if) -> ($ext_if:0) #rdr pass on $int_if proto tcp to port ftp -> 127.0.0.1 port 8021 no rdr on $ext_if proto tcp from to any port smtp #rdr pass on $ext_if proto tcp from any to any port smtp \ # -> 127.0.0.1 port spamd #anchor "ftp-proxy/*" block in pass out pass quick on $int_if no state antispoof quick for { lo $int_if } #pass in on $ext_if proto tcp to ($ext_if) port ssh pass in on $ext_if proto tcp to ($ext_if) port 38422 #pass in log on $ext_if proto tcp to ($ext_if) port smtp #pass out log on $ext_if proto tcp from ($ext_if) to port smtp pass in on $ext_if inet proto icmp from any to ($ext_if) icmp-type { unreac= h, redir, timex } root@server:~ # pfctl -vnf /etc/pf.conf ext_if =3D "igb0" int_if =3D "igb1" table persist set skip on { lo } scrub in all fragment reassemble nat on igb0 inet from ! (igb0) to any -> (igb0:0) no rdr on igb0 proto tcp from to any port =3D smtp block drop in all pass out all flags S/SA keep state pass quick on igb1 all no state block drop in quick on ! lo inet6 from ::1 to any block drop in quick on ! lo inet from 127.0.0.0/8 to any block drop in quick inet from 127.0.0.1 to any block drop in quick on ! igb1 inet from 192.168.1.0/24 to any block drop in quick inet from 192.168.1.1 to any block drop in quick inet6 from ::1 to any block drop in quick on lo0 inet6 from fe80::1 to any pass in on igb0 inet proto icmp from any to (igb0) icmp-type unreach keep s= tate pass in on igb0 inet proto icmp from any to (igb0) icmp-type redir keep sta= te pass in on igb0 inet proto icmp from any to (igb0) icmp-type timex keep sta= te pass in on igb0 proto tcp from any to (igb0) port =3D 38422 flags S/SA keep= state root@server:~ # Thanks, William Moreno Enviado desde Correo para= Windows 10 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Aug 25 06:20:42 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75BB210A24D5 for ; 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Just take my working settings to > > start with: > > Thanks for this. My problem is that my /etc/jail.conf is already > very simple, > > exec.start = "/bin/sh /etc/rc"; > exec.stop = "/bin/sh /etc/rc.shutdown"; > exec.clean; > path = "/local/jails/$name"; > mount.fstab = "/etc/jail/fstab.${name}"; > mount.devfs; > host.hostname = "${name}.local"; > devfs_ruleset = "4"; > norman { > ip4.addr = "192.168.11.128"; > interface = "igb0"; > } > > and my jail's /etc/rc.conf even simpler than yours > > # cat /etc/rc.conf > syslogd_flags="-ss" > # > I remember from the days finding my working solution out that FreeBSD is picky about little things. You see the small differences. It might be the cause. > But still 'host www.freebsd.org' times out within the jail. I use always jails for web browsing without any problems. > > There's something important about jail networking that I'm not > understanding, but I haven't a clue what it is. Most frustrating. > Whom are you telling this? Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Aug 25 09:17:14 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 851EF1083ABC for ; Sat, 25 Aug 2018 09:17:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from p.gunnarsson@yahoo.com) Received: from sonic303-19.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (sonic303-19.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com [77.238.178.200]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EFD0C9052A for ; Sat, 25 Aug 2018 09:17:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from p.gunnarsson@yahoo.com) X-YMail-OSG: iMXlvVMVM1nb1SSbNEnUfbw6qXD1Kbv.BydIIGE0yJ9M0385dpJTQdkwyTtbEwx O1Ba2psIF4w6aLqNLVq6wrwN1xnzu3hpmi_K4F9WmMshuG9RyVH.JtiO4s4fwdDoHULIiyodbxIU qbxdKoidf8UUn1chsGlOOu7qmQTQ9S8y7DnNbqdA4UoasRQv2I7SHn4dsZERC0QId8OZxWdRQfzX qPolWx13kDiWtxsF2l5aj.a6aHy.s.YvHWBacbApLIhc9lk1s2s6aKxvRkUUXrxAAkzPBV0ysF1W tNCahVHU65KpbMRzKFFn4CuBI_QacjyO2oi5GumKp8CLB5XvK0YdRy.AGeZemx673NBD02t92Mhv hBQGiNAX2zhegKJe.vZkvbVSS.m64zwv4gKlZqJTeEF7Q.NdEwi1Vy7ZE74LfjACdMsXMkUSlEMA Pz4rhJ2urKpcc865cltEEE6emVyjtXS.aRF6bqCucFtOki.8EssO5qMI07uQ7vlzYs.c5aRv7wCq 9xe8QC7dEsVkBdz5kChsLxL4ay04mGW_1I7ia.ccmprToz8UrIc.ZcS4k_bKUQpfz2XN9vS6WIK6 L8N882Q7FdBBYm_o0ZEZSciExDML_zrZhfkMN.mGRmyiHnwhggrsD5.MgmBFtGZ5aeLLLPVNxG4Y yEQmjyQ_rK5fk76xf_S.Cet1MuP30MrO6Ojt3cPC_sZLgrj.lZ6onnUvmx21p0Ax7ShoQDNiOp9B 9oLs6d1V4ZElOswHh5BX7o6NMgzijwZXpcLxeEn_TyGcmx_NHJ.uJeBwnCBYApA5x9PcFSgVTXj8 mgPnzv4Yt75wzM3Otp79Sn8GZ8fznBQjJIX26tDvCp7bfxNvEA6pYaUWNfdSeXLU8IRs9nGfdo3m QeahQHXM5k5KH2_VgR82aI1xpJ2L.L4IRoGLFgfIR08EgVrikpwhVesPqULpgogJaGvE15KYIbpY mzXg3ucxLB72jHagwiZe35Vtj.aEH0ycou6wvJMdgpsnb2Dfa0clg5kGp Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic303.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with HTTP; Sat, 25 Aug 2018 09:17:06 +0000 Received: from 108.161.151.160 (EHLO [188.125.73.26]) ([108.161.151.160]) by smtp423.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (Oath Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 477b98f08287c56d186ae76101f8415e for ; Sat, 25 Aug 2018 09:17:02 +0000 (UTC) From: Per Gunnarsson Subject: Problem with DVD To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <246aff18-4101-b0d3-130d-ed177e7c81d7@yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2018 11:16:57 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2018 09:17:14 -0000 Hello! I have problems contacting my DVD reader. [per@konjak ~/Music/Big Fish]$ sudo cdrecord -scanbus Password: Sorry, try again. Password: Cdrecord-ProDVD-ProBD-Clone 3.01 (amd64-unknown-freebsd12.0) Copyright (C) 1995-2015 Joerg Schilling cdrecord: No error: 0. Kernel error! got periph match type -1515870811!!. Cannot open or use SCSI driver. cdrecord: For possible targets try 'cdrecord -scanbus'. cdrecord: For possible transport specifiers try 'cdrecord dev=help'. crw-------  1 root  operator  0x56 Aug 25 10:02 /dev/pass0 crw-r-----  1 root  operator  0x3e Aug 25 10:02 /dev/xpt0 crw-rw----  1 root  operator  0x75 Aug 25 10:02 /dev/cd0 (I am member of the group operator) ---<>--- Copyright (c) 1992-2018 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994     The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation. FreeBSD 12.0-ALPHA2 #0 r338177: Wed Aug 22 08:46:40 CEST 2018     root@konjak:/usr/obj/usr/src/amd64.amd64/sys/GENERIC amd64 FreeBSD clang version 6.0.1 (tags/RELEASE_601/final 335540) (based on LLVM 6.0.1) WARNING: WITNESS option enabled, expect reduced performance. VT(efifb): resolution 1024x768 CPU: AMD A10-9700 RADEON R7, 10 COMPUTE CORES 4C+6G  (3493.51-MHz K8-class CPU)   Origin="AuthenticAMD"  Id=0x660f51  Family=0x15  Model=0x65  Stepping=1   Features=0x178bfbff   Features2=0x7ed8320b   AMD Features=0x2e500800   AMD Features2=0x2febbfff,DBE,PTSC,MWAITX>   Structured Extended Features=0x1a9   XSAVE Features=0x1   SVM: NP,NRIP,VClean,AFlush,DAssist,NAsids=32768   TSC: P-state invariant, performance statistics real memory  = 8589934592 (8192 MB) avail memory = 8197472256 (7817 MB) Event timer "LAPIC" quality 600 ACPI APIC Table: FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 4 CPUs FreeBSD/SMP: 1 package(s) x 4 core(s) random: unblocking device. Firmware Warning (ACPI): Optional FADT field Pm2ControlBlock has valid Length but zero Address: 0x0000000000000000/0x1 (20180810/tbfadt-796) ioapic0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard ioapic1 irqs 24-55 on motherboard Launching APs: 2 1 3 Timecounter "TSC-low" frequency 1746753218 Hz quality 1000 Cuse v0.1.35 @ /dev/cuse random: entropy device external interface module_register_init: MOD_LOAD (vesa, 0xffffffff811011c0, 0) error 19 random: registering fast source Intel Secure Key RNG random: fast provider: "Intel Secure Key RNG" kbd1 at kbdmux0 netmap: loaded module [ath_hal] loaded nexus0 cryptosoft0: on motherboard acpi0: on motherboard acpi0: Power Button (fixed) AMD-Vi: IVRS Info VAsize = 64 PAsize = 48 GVAsize = 2 flags:0 cpu0: on acpi0 attimer0: port 0x40-0x43 irq 0 on acpi0 Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 Event timer "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 100 atrtc0: port 0x70-0x71 on acpi0 atrtc0: registered as a time-of-day clock, resolution 1.000000s Event timer "RTC" frequency 32768 Hz quality 0 hpet0: iomem 0xfed00000-0xfed003ff irq 0,8 on acpi0 Timecounter "HPET" frequency 14318180 Hz quality 950 Event timer "HPET" frequency 14318180 Hz quality 450 Event timer "HPET1" frequency 14318180 Hz quality 450 Event timer "HPET2" frequency 14318180 Hz quality 450 Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 900 acpi_timer0: <32-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x808-0x80b on acpi0 pcib0: port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 pci0: on pcib0 pci0: at device 0.2 (no driver attached) pcib1: at device 2.1 on pci0 pci1: on pcib1 nvme0: mem 0xfe400000-0xfe403fff irq 24 at device 0.0 on pci1 pcib2: at device 2.3 on pci0 pci2: on pcib2 re0: port 0xe000-0xe0ff mem 0xfe300000-0xfe300fff,0xf2000000-0xf2003fff irq 32 at device 0.0 on pci2 re0: Using 1 MSI-X message re0: turning off MSI enable bit. re0: ASPM disabled re0: Chip rev. 0x4c000000 re0: MAC rev. 0x00000000 miibus0: on re0 rgephy0: PHY 1 on miibus0 rgephy0:  none, 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 10baseT-FDX-flow, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, 100baseTX-FDX-flow, 1000baseT-FDX, 1000baseT-FDX-master, 1000baseT-FDX-flow, 1000baseT-FDX-flow-master, auto, auto-flow re0: Using defaults for TSO: 65518/35/2048 re0: Ethernet address: 6c:4b:90:0f:8b:91 re0: netmap queues/slots: TX 1/256, RX 1/256 pcib3: at device 3.1 on pci0 pci3: on pcib3 vgapci0: port 0xd000-0xd07f mem 0xfd000000-0xfdffffff,0xe8000000-0xefffffff,0xf0000000-0xf1ffffff irq 35 at device 0.0 on pci3 vgapci0: Boot video device hdac0: mem 0xfe080000-0xfe083fff irq 32 at device 0.1 on pci3 pci0: at device 8.0 (no driver attached) hdac1: mem 0xfe500000-0xfe503fff at device 9.2 on pci0 xhci0: mem 0xfe504000-0xfe505fff irq 18 at device 16.0 on pci0 xhci0: 32 bytes context size, 64-bit DMA xhci0: Unable to map MSI-X table usbus0 on xhci0 usbus0: 5.0Gbps Super Speed USB v3.0 ahci0: port 0xf040-0xf047,0xf030-0xf033,0xf020-0xf027,0xf010-0xf013,0xf000-0xf00f mem 0xfe509000-0xfe5093ff irq 19 at device 17.0 on pci0 ahci0: AHCI v1.30 with 2 6Gbps ports, Port Multiplier supported with FBS ahcich0: at channel 0 on ahci0 ahcich1: at channel 1 on ahci0 isab0: at device 20.3 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 sdhci_pci0: mem 0xfe508000-0xfe5080ff at device 20.7 on pci0 sdhci_pci0: 1 slot(s) allocated acpi_button0: on acpi0 uart0: <16550 or compatible> port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on acpi0 ivhd0: on acpi0 ivhd0: Flag:b8 ivhd0: Features(type:0x11) MsiNumPPR = 0 PNBanks= 2 PNCounters= 0 ivhd0: Extended features[31:0]:22294ada HATS = 0x2 GATS = 0x0 GLXSup = 0x1 SmiFSup = 0x1 SmiFRC = 0x2 GAMSup = 0x1 DualPortLogSup = 0x2 DualEventLogSup = 0x2 ivhd0: Extended features[62:32]:77ef Max PASID: 0x2f DevTblSegSup = 0x3 MarcSup = 0x1 ivhd0: supported paging level:7, will use only: 4 ivhd0: device range: 0x0 - 0xffff ivhd0: PCI cap 0x190b640f@0x40 feature:19 orm0: at iomem 0xcf000-0xcffff pnpid ORM0000 on isa0 atkbdc0: at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED] atkbdc0: non-PNP ISA device will be removed from GENERIC in FreeBSD 12. hwpstate0: on cpu0 fuse-freebsd: version 0.4.4, FUSE ABI 7.8 Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec ugen0.1: <0x1022 XHCI root HUB> at usbus0 uhub0: <0x1022 XHCI root HUB, class 9/0, rev 3.00/1.00, addr 1> on usbus0 nvd0: NVMe namespace nvd0: 244198MB (500118192 512 byte sectors) hdacc0: at cad 0 on hdac0 hdaa0: at nid 1 on hdacc0 pcm0: at nid 5 on hdaa0 GEOM_LINUX_LVM: disk pv0 already initialised in konjak-vg GEOM_LINUX_LVM: disk pv0 already initialised in konjak-vg hdacc1: at cad 0 on hdac1 hdaa1: at nid 1 on hdacc1 pcm1: at nid 20,27 and 24,26 on hdaa1 pcm2: at nid 21 and 25 on hdaa1 ada0 at ahcich0 bus 0 scbus0 target 0 lun 0 ada0: ACS-3 ATA SATA 3.x device ada0: Serial Number WD-WCC6Y1JLRJUE ada0: 300.000MB/s transfers (SATA 2.x, UDMA5, PIO 8192bytes) ada0: Command Queueing enabled ada0: 953869MB (1953525168 512 byte sectors) cd0 at ahcich1 bus 0 scbus1 target 0 lun 0 cd0: Removable CD-ROM SCSI device cd0: Serial Number DX0K84170L1CB750152Z cd0: 150.000MB/s transfers (SATA 1.x, UDMA6, ATAPI 12bytes, PIO 8192bytes) cd0: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT READY, Medium not present - tray closed WARNING: WITNESS option enabled, expect reduced performance. Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ada0p2 [rw]... uhub0: 8 ports with 8 removable, self powered ugen0.2: at usbus0 uhub1 on uhub0 uhub1: on usbus0 uhub1: MTT enabled uhub1: 3 ports with 3 removable, self powered ugen0.3: at usbus0 ugen0.4: at usbus0 ukbd0 on uhub1 ukbd0: on usbus0 kbd2 at ukbd0 ugen0.5: at usbus0 uhub2 on uhub0 uhub2: on usbus0 uhub2: MTT enabled nvidia0: on vgapci0 vgapci0: child nvidia0 requested pci_enable_io vgapci0: child nvidia0 requested pci_enable_io nvidia-modeset: Loading NVIDIA Kernel Mode Setting Driver for UNIX platforms  390.77  Tue Jul 10 21:54:30 PDT 2018 acquiring duplicate lock of same type: "os.lock_sx"  1st os.lock_sx @ nvidia_os.c:651  2nd os.lock_sx @ nvidia_os.c:651 stack backtrace: #0 0xffffffff80c02573 at witness_debugger+0x73 #1 0xffffffff80c023f4 at witness_checkorder+0xe34 #2 0xffffffff80b9fe68 at _sx_xlock+0x68 #3 0xffffffff83898912 at os_acquire_mutex+0x32 #4 0xffffffff83793ed6 at _nv032854rm+0x16 uhub2: 3 ports with 3 removable, self powered bridge0: Ethernet address: 02:8d:74:96:32:00 tap0: Ethernet address: 00:bd:1e:eb:f6:00 lo0: link state changed to UP re0: link state changed to DOWN re0: promiscuous mode enabled bridge0: link state changed to DOWN tap0: promiscuous mode enabled ugen0.6: at usbus0 ugen0.7: at usbus0 ugen0.8: at usbus0 intsmb0: at device 20.0 on pci0 smbus0: on intsmb0 ums0 on uhub1 ums0: on usbus0 ums0: 3 buttons and [XYZ] coordinates ID=0 uhid0 on uhub1 uhid0: on usbus0 uhid1 on uhub2 uhid1: on usbus0 re0: link state changed to UP bridge0: link state changed to UP uaudio0 on uhub2 uaudio0: on usbus0 uaudio0: Play: 48000 Hz, 2 ch, 16-bit S-LE PCM format, 2x8ms buffer. uaudio0: Play: 44100 Hz, 2 ch, 16-bit S-LE PCM format, 2x8ms buffer. uaudio0: Record: 48000 Hz, 1 ch, 16-bit S-LE PCM format, 2x8ms buffer. uaudio0: Record: 44100 Hz, 1 ch, 16-bit S-LE PCM format, 2x8ms buffer. uaudio0: No MIDI sequencer. pcm3: on uaudio0 uaudio0: HID volume keys found. uaudio1 on uhub0 uaudio1: on usbus0 uaudio1: No playback. uaudio1: Record: 48000 Hz, 1 ch, 16-bit S-LE PCM format, 2x8ms buffer. uaudio1: Record: 44100 Hz, 1 ch, 16-bit S-LE PCM format, 2x8ms buffer. uaudio1: Record: 24000 Hz, 1 ch, 16-bit S-LE PCM format, 2x8ms buffer. uaudio1: Record: 22050 Hz, 1 ch, 16-bit S-LE PCM format, 2x8ms buffer. uaudio1: Record: 16000 Hz, 1 ch, 16-bit S-LE PCM format, 2x8ms buffer. uaudio1: Record: 11025 Hz, 1 ch, 16-bit S-LE PCM format, 2x8ms buffer. uaudio1: Record: 8000 Hz, 1 ch, 16-bit S-LE PCM format, 2x8ms buffer. uaudio1: No MIDI sequencer. pcm4: on uaudio1 uaudio1: No HID volume keys found. lock order reversal:  1st 0xfffffe0000e80680 bufwait (bufwait) @ /usr/src/sys/kern/vfs_bio.c:3916  2nd 0xfffff80003859000 dirhash (dirhash) @ /usr/src/sys/ufs/ufs/ufs_dirhash.c:289 stack backtrace: #0 0xffffffff80c02573 at witness_debugger+0x73 #1 0xffffffff80c023f4 at witness_checkorder+0xe34 #2 0xffffffff80b9fe68 at _sx_xlock+0x68 #3 0xffffffff80ec518d at ufsdirhash_add+0x3d #4 0xffffffff80ec805f at ufs_direnter+0x49f #5 0xffffffff80ed04f9 at ufs_mkdir+0x8b9 #6 0xffffffff81201479 at VOP_MKDIR_APV+0xd9 #7 0xffffffff80c7d5aa at kern_mkdirat+0x1ca #8 0xffffffff8107ea21 at amd64_syscall+0x281 #9 0xffffffff81058d3d at fast_syscall_common+0x101 Regards, Per Gunnarsson From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Aug 25 13:30:31 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D33D108AC26 for ; Sat, 25 Aug 2018 13:30:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.17.13]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 68AF570038 for ; Sat, 25 Aug 2018 13:30:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([92.195.99.237]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue104 [212.227.15.183]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 0Lm4GH-1fKDl42PwX-00ZcWD; Sat, 25 Aug 2018 15:30:19 +0200 Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2018 15:30:19 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Per Gunnarsson Cc: Per Gunnarsson via freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Problem with DVD Message-Id: <20180825153019.6eec8a3e.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <246aff18-4101-b0d3-130d-ed177e7c81d7@yahoo.com> References: <246aff18-4101-b0d3-130d-ed177e7c81d7@yahoo.com> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:xvEe02A6XqjX1jjQsq8ndrslCcSnPUNmoyHLnWu2qXnUwztyhEx 9jRYPuZWuhHc1U6H3FnQbdB9xSodgilxstb+Q+L6f0x2zn5dqDtXpRAHlwlfBzab+Q9kJyj 9UPiafX2qHYxprbPRypkgS5JPobn5eoqlP2j21y5hdEcAUCAanrdHiqdiU9YbgCAYzWXzQS 3jA3EeY4edo+7bvLAZ1Pg== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:aTc2Egh06m0=:uMa5oNWipMCy1VNo8QpZf9 ouA+TY7JMXO6XRmGHO0DdUBxFYNh/+TR0nctsz/HutlrZF8pOxPaQUCbe/QNApMYTjab8MD0+ whhZ8H1D7yZXGdLFbMbshFugMUOD6V+FXSR0tyYfav8Le2xxGBIHvMqZuWoDX+SrwILdVZRGa uARK1fziJ3i+iioGMhMelYjEz4VjN+Kgt++vtsqg25e0FGyJqAlpdKOQJ4qJosxp7U4/8SzlG yqHIGy5TS+XRKWM+MIqnE8jj5BbaW4Bq7AEv8DUaJbse8xE3PlZgL2P42BvCJsoYxLeAx2wNf +LELMv/cJC1qWIKWaoTYPVipJQyBOlpd393VwTWBFBkbhORAhb0iGuoz1lYPb3PTbs4buXcvt 6HFz1eyizgztlKQkH8H8CeCZstZjhm0jeBKzoC5ZvqaGYH4WcJ6pk8Ye4FGd7encG1s40/rdN 1KsRP41h2SAnoJAlmRhtJI+teg4SwG6UVSFT39EIOMJ+WqLEq/MoUXQu663nUpAalbGEUA792 jvXcBMWBWPMgpvru74Pbm9uqUK2f41t8epEcwNDxvFQHeXoh4rUkpj5/uaXIARX6g7v/3U/CI kxM7+N90s6EVtCjG+bN7CQWkEl9l8eurfnmvOZY+w22FbTAuD0BAJuTvG9eBXd6HkpUcR3yAd K6w84XGlfeEfyFmHrgHGz60pTriBklqrWXpwGvhDoA3256ogQtSQV8CA6f9SFh8yakygWFlKb zbKCXJwWL2RlJ7iB X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2018 13:30:31 -0000 On Sat, 25 Aug 2018 11:16:57 +0200, Per Gunnarsson via freebsd-questions wr= ote: > I have problems contacting my DVD reader. >=20 >=20 > [per@konjak ~/Music/Big Fish]$ sudo cdrecord -scanbus > Password: > Sorry, try again. > Password: > Cdrecord-ProDVD-ProBD-Clone 3.01 (amd64-unknown-freebsd12.0) Copyright > (C) 1995-2015 Joerg Schilling > cdrecord: No error: 0. Kernel error! got periph match type > -1515870811!!. Cannot open or use SCSI driver. > cdrecord: For possible targets try 'cdrecord -scanbus'. > cdrecord: For possible transport specifiers try 'cdrecord dev=3Dhelp'. >=20 > crw-------=A0 1 root=A0 operator=A0 0x56 Aug 25 10:02 /dev/pass0 > crw-r-----=A0 1 root=A0 operator=A0 0x3e Aug 25 10:02 /dev/xpt0 > crw-rw----=A0 1 root=A0 operator=A0 0x75 Aug 25 10:02 /dev/cd0 >=20 > (I am member of the group operator) You should add the correct settings to /etc/devfs.conf: own cd0 root:operator perm cd0 0664 own xpt0 root:operator perm xpt0 0660 own pass0 root:operator perm pass0 0660 You're already in the "operator" group, so rw access is possible. You can see from your ls -l example that you're currently missing the required permissions to access the xpt and the pass device. Check the "camcontrol devlist" to see which pass device belongs to your optical media drive. You'll also see the bus:target:lun number (e. g., 0:0:0) which programs like cdrecord like to use (in the form 0,0,0). For example, you could use this command to burn an audio CD from premastered CDR files: % cdrecord dev=3D0,0,0 speed=3D8 driveropts=3Dburnfree -eject -v -dao -aud= io *.cdr Or a data CD fron the content of the directory directly without and intermediate ISO image: % mkisofs -r -J / | cdrecord dev=3D0,0,0 speed=3D8 -v -eject -t= ao -data - It's just a matter of setting up the permissions correctly. In this case, you won't need any "sudo" prefixing. :-) For more information, chech The FreeBSD Handbook: https://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/creating-cds.html https://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/creating-dvds.html --=20 Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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[65.25.48.31]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id g25-v6sm1762250iti.31.2018.08.25.07.44.15 (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 25 Aug 2018 07:44:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5B816B3E.6070903@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2018 10:44:14 -0400 From: Ernie Luzar User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alejandro Imass CC: Norman Gray , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Jails and networks References: <6B17F10B-F3AE-45C5-8011-EBE52462230E@glasgow.ac.uk> <702BA4E1-A1D1-4120-866D-755CB2C76143@glasgow.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2018 14:44:18 -0000 Alejandro Imass wrote: > On Fri, Aug 24, 2018 at 11:54 AM, Norman Gray wrote: >> Alejandro, hello. >> >> Thanks for your further comments. >> > > [...] > >>> There's been some >>> friction over the years and I sided with Dirk and continue to use >>> ezjail. >> >> That's also very useful to know. As with all of these things, it'd be >> interesting to know more about the grounds and nature of the split, but >> that's not always easy to find. >> > > IIRC it seemed at the time that qjail had shamelessly stolen ezjail > source to scaffold their product and claimed original authorship. I > think there have been many flame wars in this respect and should not > be that hard to find references. > As I recall, qjail is the result of some Filipino IT students who forked ezjail as a script coding assignment. They had no idea about open source software license issues. Not knowing better, they took ezjail to be open source and since most of the script was rewritten they put their own free license on it. When it was pointed out by users that qjail needed to give credit to the original author of the forked ezjail. This was done right away. There was never any intention to steal anything. Just a bunch of students trying to do something to give back to the FreeBSD community who made a simple mistake. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Aug 25 15:21:14 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D8AA108D638 for ; Sat, 25 Aug 2018 15:21:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dch@skunkwerks.at) Received: from out1-smtp.messagingengine.com (out1-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1AB5474793 for ; Sat, 25 Aug 2018 15:21:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dch@skunkwerks.at) Received: from compute7.internal (compute7.nyi.internal [10.202.2.47]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 450DA21B55 for ; Sat, 25 Aug 2018 11:21:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web5 ([10.202.2.215]) by compute7.internal (MEProxy); Sat, 25 Aug 2018 11:21:13 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=skunkwerks.at; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-me-sender :x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm3; bh=8bdu7LCBlb5qyuotJ3G0dG1+er4aF 4zC344R9o3pWLY=; b=UtNngEl1j4ZekqPaodbEALQ5cuRGqW5VJkY+RlgnheLO4 QVpp6yQKr9KgmOFNqhzE6CGbvjYnynurr6HKvY0UuVD0gAt/2CcuVjlNTF9LPUtT Kirelk+MdpTypqK4QV0IdXWnwN3Ed+nZNHj84ikIxP1ltmncjIFqQzI5ib/dXL2p uwIt1sObL1+oeDFtQRB0FqgoCatykR1EcOQD7WCWnSumKOlN8Y4GQIw1xkWaPtdB 62NuK5jcvZeiJPo/l/KYeFvPMZdO0Dct8fo5kGZBV6yc7EhSW8yOoGbs/I1JxtCh EQMrY3d9ObaJAOcghp3/D/LYJT6+Y8inSNutJj1TA== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :subject:to:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm3; bh=8bdu7L CBlb5qyuotJ3G0dG1+er4aF4zC344R9o3pWLY=; b=YsID3YyIN6wqIXKAl0XX9R qU9/hi/qJVqRtwXlp37Tn+i2ghMdc3tB/seDbMnng7u8yjw2uTnZMZsIZUayCRjm mZuUQ/4w7NEA1L+khjiEp78iNV7xHwImDeJmgXcVwpueDsvC7HJxqbWlvVZSjiBl uVTswTBvl3oS792xG3WdgiYE0MnlarrdxccN7oKeQZSNHLhzB1DVc34GA7XG5T6T 0sHfcZmfYvqYB+r3Q9EGyMPtG65396kR679E6JaTEU2OOWnaG4qLhEOQnJFKhpq2 XkPMv2VmoUmtbAdjRRFxXUFxyrs2cDfjpY1mqgTbXcflFBzfo+fNV1o7K+WrXalw == X-ME-Proxy: X-ME-Sender: Received: by mailuser.nyi.internal (Postfix, from userid 99) id A40D79E24B; Sat, 25 Aug 2018 11:21:12 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <1535210472.40142.1485918024.52274C37@webmail.messagingengine.com> From: Dave Cottlehuber To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface - ajax-7b72137a Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2018 17:21:12 +0200 References: <6B17F10B-F3AE-45C5-8011-EBE52462230E@glasgow.ac.uk> Subject: Re: Jails and networks In-Reply-To: <6B17F10B-F3AE-45C5-8011-EBE52462230E@glasgow.ac.uk> X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2018 15:21:14 -0000 On Thu, 23 Aug 2018, at 20:44, Norman Gray wrote: > > Greetings. > > * A forum post [3] describes setting up a jail using ezjail and pf. > Now, I don't think I need pf in my situation, so I want to skip that > part of the instructions. But I now suspect I'm doing so naively. > > My host is on a 172.16.0.0/12 private network, which is routable > locally, though it has to use a proxy to get to the web. I want to set > up a jail on (slightly at random) 192.168.11.128. Your jail needs to have some way to send & receive traffic via the host to the internet. Just adding a 192.168.0.0 address to the external igb0 interface will only work if the adjacent router allows that, and it almost certainly won't by default. This means you need either NAT or routing on your system to take care of this for you. You might try your initial jail setup with a 17.16.0.0/12 address from the same pool as your host, ensuring that the IP address is already free, and then you can work through the other issues that crop up, but soon you'll want pf for the jails on their own RFC1928 private network. I am no pf expert but something like this might be all you need: # /etc/rc.conf additions # jail networks cloned_interfaces="${cloned_interfaces} lo1" # provide a single IP for the jail using the IP you already chose ifconfig_lo1="inet 192.168.11.128/16" # provide additional 2 IPs for other jails ifconfig_lo1_aliases="inet 192.168.11.129-130/32" # and reboot # /etc/pf.conf # and `service pf start` # interfaces extl_if = "igb0" jail_if = "lo1" # networks jail_net = $jail_if:network internet = $extl_if:network # clean packets are happy packets scrub in all # jails are allowed outbound connections but not inbound # these should be set up explicitly using spiped or haproxy nat on $extl_if proto tcp from $jail_net to any -> ($extl_if) A+ Dave From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Aug 25 15:35:41 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5BE3108E150 for ; Sat, 25 Aug 2018 15:35:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from markusalbertgraf@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x229.google.com (mail-wm0-x229.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::229]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 31234758A3 for ; Sat, 25 Aug 2018 15:35:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from markusalbertgraf@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x229.google.com with SMTP id 207-v6so4263587wme.5 for ; Sat, 25 Aug 2018 08:35:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=user-agent:from:to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding; bh=JIBKLL1hSNHxbCMMgqvqXur2RLLSN8lHiby4dZroCB0=; b=QrV2DDUTdSRaY5+0oTQNvzTlBiHt1K10J7DGSa1vMzhwejkXVxxX2Q8JrI59+CvANp PHst2jsAuGRWHAI3ZZajtOuJFbHnmzTj1ObAwf9uNPW7jWgN4AKUDDKSSRUZbSeJQBit 8IeC2BseERRxBPL1KffNIUaA+sGq2P0eKuBPBeByEJ3onNE60uQwxaz0c1F3Mt+hbAUk TRxVq+KvjfMheQIirQ47jBiJ6UuX2mSFHNUeBuh8Cys7Z3Ta/suv1lm4PpeQC53KUx2/ htjLoozUsOZh4XyHixBI4o8a8YDDKRCmKI2KapcSRJ+WiKJ3eMDIsvjXmWxHMvKPmFSj 5gqw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:user-agent:from:to:subject:date:message-id :mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=JIBKLL1hSNHxbCMMgqvqXur2RLLSN8lHiby4dZroCB0=; b=LKiU8dQieiFQwJvButM/RpHB1TAvzKQ+VeAnh1yaiTKreLzRxazzZpeGiSjjz91PJm x1jX2YmXHTmicX7q5W/nM8gYeDh1nh4n7a/X7rZsbAmLnQNu8HXB5rzr7CjoxEknt+J+ brrP/v4+l5qkA9PiTUOAzGmKZNKesjDsLmxKAJoyKWmJqDbINZlP7bhKTJB+1ozGxfJg 7Ve5LamnV0z0MOTAQeMUeXlgY5Yd6yOxDa2QbLWrX5KbQw0nso96sy5m5uuBGpKWP9qJ e+c81iIKLdZqihGNsYC4nmGD4nyzsziZ4wt2DWLA6VdFhQobqkTlpS7JMUzBB/05Ytid 2Fbg== X-Gm-Message-State: APzg51CoL6hmLzbU+sxCHY1BLrT0a+E5A1I+JUPOpUJ0FE38GmUqZF5L AI+lFZDwcBKdgnm386WrXED9U2qE X-Google-Smtp-Source: ANB0VdbT+qAkyCB8Gq97Wrg+/J1GSPDMUXM5pfYWXdx7laEXI6oJSO1k6lP3cMUgAC+rsB4Hegugmg== X-Received: by 2002:a1c:f516:: with SMTP id t22-v6mr1327005wmh.103.1535211340028; Sat, 25 Aug 2018 08:35:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from beasty (p200300E12F35670082FA5BFFFE3B70E7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de. [2003:e1:2f35:6700:82fa:5bff:fe3b:70e7]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id j75-v6sm7798561wmj.8.2018.08.25.08.35.39 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Sat, 25 Aug 2018 08:35:39 -0700 (PDT) User-agent: mu4e 1.0; emacs 26.1 From: Markus Graf To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Skylake HDA CODEC breaks on dpms Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2018 17:35:38 +0200 Message-ID: <864lfizcfp.fsf@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2018 15:35:41 -0000 Hi, I use an external monitor via HDMI with sound. hdacc1: at cad 2 on hdac0 hdaa1: at nid 1 on hdacc1 That works. Until the monitor goes into power saving mode. Then I get the following error twice: hdacc1: Unexpected unsolicited response with tag 63: ffffffff hdacc1: Unexpected unsolicited response with tag 63: ffffffff After this error sound is gone. pavucontrol still shows the sound but it is dead. I can reproduce the killing by entering xset dpms force standby on the console. Does anybody have any hints how to fix this? As a workaround is there a command I can use to manually reset hdacc1? At the moment I shutdown -r to fix this or use xset -dpms to avoid it. --=20 Liebe Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe Markus Graf From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Aug 25 18:31:50 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7D791092B68 for ; Sat, 25 Aug 2018 18:31:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nusenu-lists@riseup.net) Received: from mx1.riseup.net (mx1.riseup.net [198.252.153.129]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.riseup.net", Issuer "COMODO RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 59D4F7CA2C for ; Sat, 25 Aug 2018 18:31:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nusenu-lists@riseup.net) Received: from cotinga.riseup.net (cotinga-pn.riseup.net [10.0.1.164]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.riseup.net", Issuer "COMODO RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EEDF41A0922 for ; 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micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="0wiXI09IMxnm1WOmAOAO1tRRmWOF7mrvP" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2018 18:31:50 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --0wiXI09IMxnm1WOmAOAO1tRRmWOF7mrvP Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="iYS29NnzUi1bhjS6Fl81DVFjiqh4q24yb"; protected-headers="v1" From: nusenu To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: Subject: finding the port for "kernel: Limiting open port RST response from x to y packets/sec" --iYS29NnzUi1bhjS6Fl81DVFjiqh4q24yb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I occasionally get multiple entries of: kernel: Limiting open port RST response from xxxx to yyy packets/sec in /var/log/messages. =20 Is there a way to find out which specific TCP port is getting hammered or any other additional debug information related to these log entries? (the server has multiple open and publicly reachable open TCP ports) thanks, nusenu --=20 https://twitter.com/nusenu_ https://mastodon.social/@nusenu --iYS29NnzUi1bhjS6Fl81DVFjiqh4q24yb-- --0wiXI09IMxnm1WOmAOAO1tRRmWOF7mrvP Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCgAdFiEElpDPH7u0KYWVTfK7rWE4wkXNQn4FAluBoIQACgkQrWE4wkXN Qn6nhA/+L21lHTbokZnEkZVEhssBq2/MgoU/QCPtlsMnXTCofpo9gBs40Z0kciid LP41vW02+tB0fYYpL3FAyrsu6Mltdr6fkRHGNg6TGn/EDd4dXgpcTJiDijUpWJ+5 qCpX8Hh8YqDCms3gvWg8DJ+447XDtdGb6EjIlOUFPDubnp0el35+YNS5VhVEcS8M LnSdhyyx/qWL0fC8k+q66T6bGLD6LkB7C5eA2dcOfzE2cjWX3nrPHIkEXSfqHwQs 2d4wtL5c3rdN8Fbsq6LV9Z6EqxlfgjScarRa144ErAy3QwEuE8RhIuNTX+r+Hu4R YOLYU0BWAEBQVXn5JtjxeUXQ15Xbek5BofzludT5K48XPIiQoQr/BYZKjWFjF/7I fZP2Lg9gCvid1tLx+sjybDAJRUqRiK2CV6VWG7K8aJJ648fVNmCp/azfGwWxZRVb Bgf6pGCTYVYSibsAetecz3QXptev0v2Ayuz9Ut5TKsDqmqBmBJ1pifsXewy+t4f2 WmXYHC5K6BdQWqwSoxt3jwXfogHWXe/fOgCHOJx2kVoNMem8W02hWRw0XQWSltiN BnjL2VB83E/NGjclOlfNS8i+KBz5X+odgVriiF2eCsHPg0Jn3kMJDO9J9w2FY9eT rZ4tx1rgc14kX2NnGmiaNns+Ng/fnaTArohUAwq9iltpnxju00A= =sVwC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --0wiXI09IMxnm1WOmAOAO1tRRmWOF7mrvP-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Aug 25 19:41:02 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE05210946F0 for ; 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charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: NeoMutt/20180716 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2018 20:31:30 -0000 On Sat, Aug 25, 2018 at 07:40:59PM +0000, Carmel NY wrote: > I have a dumb question, but is it possible or advisable to run "synth" in a > jail to update the application(s) installed in the jail? This is not necessary because Synth build ports in a chroot, and so a clean environment, but if you do insist its GitHub page have some pointers to do that: https://github.com/jrmarino/synth Cheers! > -- > Carmel > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Best Regards. LBdM. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Aug 25 20:54:56 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCE5510962CE for ; Sat, 25 Aug 2018 20:54:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kudzu@tenebras.com) Received: from mail-qt0-x231.google.com (mail-qt0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c0d::231]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4BBDB81FD2 for ; Sat, 25 Aug 2018 20:54:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kudzu@tenebras.com) Received: by mail-qt0-x231.google.com with SMTP id h4-v6so13978297qtj.7 for ; Sat, 25 Aug 2018 13:54:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=tenebras-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=IAC9r61Djbn/u/c96g2S5Q3TFYL3+BQNVspIbxkcPv4=; b=UQVRB4nKuAF8LDMeq/HQzHEISjpGoWmp8Ka+9vLkEGKD4wDbun97U07eMnarysnY7h hilvr9RANMQGTOcYK4n5PDfH6J7eHvFKqOzWsYCrlThZ1Jwl0ccI5Cs0RJXOY9edCkAe YzEs0ySXERZ3t8JTcY6YTE9y4mfgbG0R9ZrOo5c4asaUGtp/YwLR3E/zRTXlF8uki2xp zkCB8P1Fv33H5u4DOJSe/+l2Ko4yUEf51c208TSdK1j8FlCM/g/CYgIaUCtR4JnHJrR1 Dxyh+uOUUd8u9doAO0AGvuNJ+i3u9oTYkbOPWGwsu+FwylqRTuMa92b92nGma3pEGqwp f3kQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=IAC9r61Djbn/u/c96g2S5Q3TFYL3+BQNVspIbxkcPv4=; b=KHYvcnWGGQdqAKolIOb5eGuiUhZ/CQj0gTST1Rk2hv4C4dmgkRkWJRCylXeMM9VgI2 fWPVL1niF0Ww4K3VQ7wWDfUAXh0qZDNAABgqgCR+rM5HuikVrNcUrXeknQNC7XHtDdgp /TkSjGRYsrccqmBNscslAHiOAb4v4XEOKRQcWzLvFoJnLl/j7rhjW7d+LGxVO0esipQo WvhNjFc/EdMIrbNMAEEaYOTB4hoTETqZwmTIHtr2WyRIs5tFL9H8Kp6e084bxcQ8H47q Cxcbq6GHHzdC0nI+UwU+ttQkA+uEH+IHyj+TCQDVTjkgS2s7z5uAQIMNpVyuSKhxZSDL RVZg== X-Gm-Message-State: APzg51Dw7W6km/pGvKtdlIMlhXkrTl5giC0hHAiOLdg24GWd4QxPLLXB uNezDLuHI5la0ZwTUGxVIydZ6GKP/n28O8tEzTvG0J2C3VU= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ANB0Vda5ZPbp1knRk+Tmh2PJOLIdGEj9abgCneIpxb3GkMWbqhdgifXewD/WXOzrGD2iwCEZI49Ss3Fwf7oGU0Xjw7U= X-Received: by 2002:ac8:1804:: with SMTP id q4-v6mr7585501qtj.223.1535230495143; Sat, 25 Aug 2018 13:54:55 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Michael Sierchio Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2018 13:54:44 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: finding the port for "kernel: Limiting open port RST response from x to y packets/sec" To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.27 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2018 20:54:57 -0000 On Sat, Aug 25, 2018 at 11:34 AM nusenu wrote: > > kernel: Limiting open port RST response from xxxx to yyy packets/sec > Is there a way to find out which specific TCP port is getting hammered > or any other additional debug information related to these log entries? > (the server has multiple open and publicly reachable open TCP ports) > You can identify and log these packets in IPFIREWALL (man ipfw). You can also set sysctl net.inet.tcp.log_debug=3D1 --=20 "Well," Brahma said, "even after ten thousand explanations, a fool is no wiser, but an intelligent person requires only two thousand five hundred." - The Mah=C4=81bh=C4=81rata From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Aug 25 22:26:25 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11F051097E2A for ; Sat, 25 Aug 2018 22:26:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from luzar722@gmail.com) Received: from mail-io0-x232.google.com (mail-io0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c06::232]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 79E1184248 for ; Sat, 25 Aug 2018 22:26:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from luzar722@gmail.com) Received: by mail-io0-x232.google.com with SMTP id y12-v6so9902720ioj.13 for ; Sat, 25 Aug 2018 15:26:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=nXFAvqlbvCxIAjaE6oE6zJz10F7JFLJjSNA2+HgJYJo=; b=mnZPBmLtgAXMev0r7mMETKACZPwE8WdTvcgU5b7+OKGwseNTHD9aKuHg16XVFnEQle /hZFlfMVn9oDAwrp6DAUHUOJDRL7Up4WkuqOhhbeCSv7RW81CQ3cGFrMG043FV2WzyDD GvwIuNdxS25U4oRTLS5Lf3S1VqHRysCtJnZ715eiKbbR19I5sSZlkTVcmyQUaoGC+BxP mMikiicnrryKOhrQnXt0iR90ymJI6ZI+8dBQQ2eS06QX7ZPCOgmfAco14E56D6ybSVzf 1FLsEUT3TIfuUnhneCoZKJmDnc7UpnvN4HzXc0P/lm3YR1GjR919whJ57Me8K/E7hhQ7 dbNA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=nXFAvqlbvCxIAjaE6oE6zJz10F7JFLJjSNA2+HgJYJo=; b=A7QRiHB3NNOZHmswf/sPQREpw85ibbL3qvOV3nLTFMyVnHJDjBW8Pb5yHfW4vooLO/ d8Bg5V7tpg/Ng9/wAdwOPsP1dWfMyYMwxLN7/UCjFR9Pj9U1OS4B6duSOwPccRYp2EZO QqxkW6+KhXQn1zojDwYpK9XQ8Tam6e/QlGXQk3zeRHLb/vGQyEVc2JyF7ViQ8D/EW7AU Uvdey5NptUb47/ZU13vtbHlpm3xFoGTMzBL8nzOPywK5r+OXYBFIrqTLOjHcRmYqN1sT 6RwI29pH62JGJiqfk1JZiPU4QdrW1TeRXDxr9k9+mVYw2p0cB32GZnsEp9mPYk7ZvJdt sTfw== X-Gm-Message-State: APzg51DMkgtgx09Unwfvvian8K+P/TovwjrqEv/WxaChvt3EtljNGoWn wGaNGAVi8smHq0J0aAhgUR8= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ANB0VdavL7WhWxNaQbWjYuZxeZqYqqcoCKYh8K38JQbqLPM2p+QPl4S3WznywrlPafQNTyPtrDh9eA== X-Received: by 2002:a6b:6511:: with SMTP id z17-v6mr5560178iob.285.1535235983979; Sat, 25 Aug 2018 15:26:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.10.7] (cpe-65-25-48-31.neo.res.rr.com. [65.25.48.31]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id g198-v6sm3182986itg.4.2018.08.25.15.26.22 (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 25 Aug 2018 15:26:23 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5B81D78E.3000100@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2018 18:26:22 -0400 From: Ernie Luzar User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Kevin P. Neal" CC: Alejandro Imass , Norman Gray , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Jails and networks References: <6B17F10B-F3AE-45C5-8011-EBE52462230E@glasgow.ac.uk> <702BA4E1-A1D1-4120-866D-755CB2C76143@glasgow.ac.uk> <5B816B3E.6070903@gmail.com> <20180825170559.GA79123@neutralgood.org> In-Reply-To: <20180825170559.GA79123@neutralgood.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2018 22:26:25 -0000 Kevin P. Neal wrote: > On Sat, Aug 25, 2018 at 10:44:14AM -0400, Ernie Luzar wrote: >> Alejandro Imass wrote: >>> On Fri, Aug 24, 2018 at 11:54 AM, Norman Gray wrote: >>>> Alejandro, hello. >>>> >>>> Thanks for your further comments. >>>> >>> [...] >>> >>>>> There's been some >>>>> friction over the years and I sided with Dirk and continue to use >>>>> ezjail. >>>> That's also very useful to know. As with all of these things, it'd be >>>> interesting to know more about the grounds and nature of the split, but >>>> that's not always easy to find. >>>> >>> IIRC it seemed at the time that qjail had shamelessly stolen ezjail >>> source to scaffold their product and claimed original authorship. I >>> think there have been many flame wars in this respect and should not >>> be that hard to find references. >>> >> As I recall, qjail is the result of some Filipino IT students who forked >> ezjail as a script coding assignment. They had no idea about open source >> software license issues. Not knowing better, they took ezjail to be open >> source and since most of the script was rewritten they put their own >> free license on it. When it was pointed out by users that qjail needed >> to give credit to the original author of the forked ezjail. This was >> done right away. There was never any intention to steal anything. Just a >> bunch of students trying to do something to give back to the FreeBSD >> community who made a simple mistake. > > Wait, it was an "assignment"? Meaning they did it for school? > > That's even _worse_! Because it was plagiarism, and they didn't know that > plagiarism is wrong. How did they not know that plagiarism is wrong? > > If it really was an "assignment" done by students then that implies they > turned it in for school credit. That's even worse, and they deserve to get > treated quite harshly by their school if they really did that. You don't > turn in someone else's work for school credit, even if you did change > "most" of the work before turning it in. > > And, as I recall, there was some arguing on his/their part so I'm not sure > that the "right away" part is accurate. > This is open source software being talked about not printed matter, so the idea of plagiarism does not apply in this case at all. This snafu is no reason to think qjail is inferior. It has many functions ezjail is lacking. Like being able to create non-vnet jails and vnet jails using the jail.conf method. Qjail has been incorporated into the Finch open source project as it's jail management tool giving qjail creditability. The general point I am trying to make here, is the original poster should try out the qjail utility and see if he can get his jails to access the public internet. 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micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="6cm9Hj04DY8z3ZprWMg6vNZWpBrJttKCO" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2018 23:24:28 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --6cm9Hj04DY8z3ZprWMg6vNZWpBrJttKCO Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="NQoSAyMdu1lu5yhwxmo1aac6epZYtjq24"; protected-headers="v1" From: nusenu To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: Subject: Re: finding the port for "kernel: Limiting open port RST response from x to y packets/sec" References: In-Reply-To: --NQoSAyMdu1lu5yhwxmo1aac6epZYtjq24 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Michael, thanks for your reply. Michael Sierchio: >> Is there a way to find out which specific TCP port is getting hammered= >> or any other additional debug information related to these log entries= ? >> (the server has multiple open and publicly reachable open TCP ports) >> >=20 > You can identify and log these packets in IPFIREWALL (man ipfw). >=20 > You can also set sysctl net.inet.tcp.log_debug=3D1 unfortunately net.inet.tcp.log_debug=3D1 logs too much (I should only get= my IP and port, but not the other side's). I assume there are many potential reasons why the kernel would reply with an RST on an open port, are there pre-existing rulesets that match the kernel's reasons? --=20 https://twitter.com/nusenu_ https://mastodon.social/@nusenu --NQoSAyMdu1lu5yhwxmo1aac6epZYtjq24-- --6cm9Hj04DY8z3ZprWMg6vNZWpBrJttKCO Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCgAdFiEElpDPH7u0KYWVTfK7rWE4wkXNQn4FAluB5SAACgkQrWE4wkXN Qn4o7w//a3YHBTMiX6A0zbcgamtPQfDbBam+XmUDED1faSL7tG19a3RiGkA5/zId mo0QIS5muACfr8+4D4Yau+8nL1zXFyvMrnBB3UEllOAxKA3vv2/dyzrmFnNrmjpO LCXb0xJbp0D5BpIppVBzwC3A4JdY04YgtSU7hiLLBT7wJfkwNFZ8n9JgRJx+q9L3 hjrTemp0RyewkAOOoWweAAnREFY21bySmGaGmKuRAOX7s5RF7nco3zbOkDO2ir7L YO9otVkHzD1sK3XCG7C9HDB6QlHYFG+TaHNCY8iULP1aW0dkNapXdwh+SVjJtpQm 6bpH9gs7nGQ5zLtLPxuUqXmcgyg0LRNkSnDj0ztXvvTIE2zFYx09zl2XuVkNXvoP iBOnRy6osDmh8gmgVP+zvBw1+heL0sUr/uDh1fYRvUoeWBTJVxEUC8dKjkKQMWvk AYxzBK4UJin0T9s2RufVSF4BkaGuH0/Uu1Onfy3x+VydOnrEuSfqWXRpHkX4RZbm /mLnfXNaLfGf972cv5ME7ccE0O2yPc7FnBYbz813hLUDNjn+Y5hyKSvkFXk3fY7i E/45BfwOiYHCJ7YgAqLBY5Rniq+QwrRA0NfN11fof5SrqjpKY+mUYgLM7o0ciZ0d t+vdpnSz6nQURtXkfZicBQB2MSUk3LRgBh//1ITin3itxEZJDRs= =t6Mv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --6cm9Hj04DY8z3ZprWMg6vNZWpBrJttKCO-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Aug 25 23:32:44 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09AC8109921E for ; Sat, 25 Aug 2018 23:32:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from takinkhorasanchian@yahoo.com) Received: from sonic311-15.consmr.mail.bf2.yahoo.com (sonic311-15.consmr.mail.bf2.yahoo.com [74.6.131.125]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A79E285FCF for ; Sat, 25 Aug 2018 23:32:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from takinkhorasanchian@yahoo.com) X-YMail-OSG: zJf1PWgVM1nGbmGNSMKKiVMiQWRxoHHGcvtOBhYjkzMWgsM3YY2q9pRVIqzSDC9 Ao0zNwqSvFyOV5borLq1TwdMAU7DCB614.udZsPpGk0nZpyW7jTojwkKaPU6WXuHEtJ0JvQi75r0 sn3yOVnvgr.rRJ.mmBmZaFkY6mZACpES1DHxJ72nb.dhhVfCuN4.Tiuz_ZXe.4NOxGIcHHagk5DH B.MeRnG9Q59ZoIvHUGLI4gtq.DqG5aL0krNOeOAT6nwP0_Swp2LNWrZWESRRWimG614FexXKiF1X QdGEuA96ZuwTBEoIpnfrNr12gIisIa0noa0QCK3Cz0xV_Hd31DvRyH35Z399EmkMJ6xVT7hv9F82 fE4tYpWmJf4wU0Ab9piC9__ALZDYMpEEqMA_r.iyelShtuK0KSu06.KGMC7FlQQwoQHsC1wuJUui QpLAZcZNEBS.RJ3687joHbFun6T6UCN.SGZd0jD8256T9v57yAMlixwYLqfRV8Wo5I5LkaiHdCTU avk.MfuTXwpxRQwIAqW3AEPj6nttT52W8ulnmb5yYQcSPiHRIlhutiWaRx8OoSysp1B6vPqZW8Fh yapACgAd88JSdkwSLjO02eKphZmhMcjcJfVH8XNgL_zHBwrFKHKo5pOyabeQUaLKvb.M_Ap0uxiI ZVjTffQdpbJLOd3NCdUVJCjMgys.WDGeIt3zU5iZ2InL4wUCPuxhpG5z_8wJz.fgUmT7pq90IN43 Rz9TJDZXLac5EkNRpZFJErhvOYB24JXEf27qScYV75lBXAbzgMK8wOGHvvRvdLR2q1ZdH6R3T8IK qKJLriK.lX8_xMDJqlrMpaU6LIkC8ohHlUcx8IGzvjtPCz.Lok.GfNZEAw3xkA845yjuiLkfslkg NugeddL7nhSIYAJOGr5ZeeorK4lSTr.tpxf5s1PR92iGRYMZ7Xq4q0MgLBgBxm8a9xJuQVyFqFz5 QL6Za Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic311.consmr.mail.bf2.yahoo.com with HTTP; Sat, 25 Aug 2018 23:32:42 +0000 Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2018 23:32:37 +0000 (UTC) From: Takin Khorasanchian To: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org" Message-ID: <1521156052.2633465.1535239957792@mail.yahoo.com> Subject: feedback MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <1521156052.2633465.1535239957792.ref@mail.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.12262 YMailNorrin Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/67.0.3396.87 Safari/537.36 OPR/54.0.2952.71 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.27 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2018 23:32:44 -0000 Step1 //////////////////////////////// remember everything they've done to = me being hiddenstep2 get started=C2=A0end