From owner-freebsd-advocacy Mon Sep 25 6:19:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from pebkac.owp.csus.edu (pebkac.owp.csus.edu [130.86.232.245]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83B1637B424 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 06:19:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (scottj@localhost) by pebkac.owp.csus.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA00230; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 06:18:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from joseph.scott@owp.csus.edu) Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 06:18:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Joseph Scott X-Sender: scottj@pebkac.owp.csus.edu To: Wes Peters Cc: Bill Fumerola , cjclark@alum.mit.edu, freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: wats so special about freeBSD? In-Reply-To: <39CC3AEB.3D768A0E@softweyr.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 22 Sep 2000, Wes Peters wrote: > OTOH, if you want to install a secure system and don't know what you're > doing, OpenBSD installs a much more secure configuration out of the box. > The afterboot(8) man page helps a neophyte administrator figure out what > they might want to do to continue securing their system. ROFL!!! I'm sorry, I realize this you were serious here, but when I read I almost did fall down laughing. This part just kills me : "if you want to install a secure system and don't know what you're doing ..." I've found that if you want to install a secure system and don't know what you are doing, it's not very likely to be secure in the end. Please don't get me wrong, I understand you point that OBSD's default install is "more secure" than FreeBSD (at least for now), but if you don't know what you are doing, the odds are just way to high that you'll screw something up. If you don't what you are doing and you want to install a secure system, you really should start out reading a whole ton of books, work with someone who does deal with admin'ing from a security perspective, and work you tail off to come up to speed. --- Joseph Scott joseph.scott@owp.csus.edu The Office Of Water Programs - CSU Sacramento To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message