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Date:      Fri, 10 May 2019 10:57:13 +1000
From:      Michelle Sullivan <michelle@sorbs.net>
To:        Alan Somers <asomers@freebsd.org>
Cc:        Miroslav Lachman <000.fbsd@quip.cz>, FreeBSD-STABLE Mailing List <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>, Dimitry Andric <dim@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: ZFS...
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Michelle Sullivan
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> On 09 May 2019, at 22:50, Alan Somers <asomers@freebsd.org> wrote:
>=20
>> On Thu, May 9, 2019 at 5:37 AM Miroslav Lachman <000.fbsd@quip.cz> wrote:=

>>=20
>> Dimitry Andric wrote on 2019/05/09 13:02:
>>> On 9 May 2019, at 10:32, Miroslav Lachman <000.fbsd@quip.cz> wrote:
>>=20
>> [...]
>>=20
>>>> Disks are OK, monitored by smartmontools. There is nothing odd, just th=
e long long scrubs. This machine was started with 4x 1TB (now 4x 4TB) and sc=
rub was slow with 1TB disks too. This machine - HP ML110 G8) was my first ma=
chine with ZFS. If I remember it well it was FreeBSD 7.0, now running 11.2. S=
crub was / is always about one week. (I tried some sysctl tuning without muc=
h gain)
>>>=20
>>> Unfortunately https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/339034, which
>>> greatly speeds up scrubs and resilvers, was not in 11.2 (since it was
>>> cut at r334458).
>>>=20
>>> If you could update to a more recent snapshot, or try the upcoming 11.3
>>> prereleases, you will hopefully see much shorter scrub times.
>>=20
>> Thank you. I will try 11-STABLE / 11.3-PRERELEASE soon and let you know
>> about the difference.
>>=20
>> Kind regards
>> Miroslav Lachman
>=20
> On 11.3 and even much older releases, you can greatly speed up scrub
> and resilver by tweaking some sysctls.  If you have spinning rust,
> raise vfs.zfs.top_maxinflight so they'll do fewer seeks.  I used to
> set it to 8192 on machines with 32GB of RAM.  Raising
> vfs.zfs.resilver_min_time_ms to 5000 helps a little, too.

I tried this, but I found that whilst it could speed up the resilver (and sc=
rubs) by as much as 25% it also had a performance hit were reads (particular=
ly streaming video - which is what my server mostly did) would =E2=80=9Cpaus=
e=E2=80=9D and =E2=80=9Cstutter=E2=80=9D .. the balance came when I brought i=
t back to around 200 * 15) .

It would still stutter when running multiple streams (to the point of heavy l=
oad) but that was kinda expected... I tried to keep the load distributed off=
 it and let the other front end servers stream and it seemed to result in a h=
ealthy balance.

>=20
> -Alan
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