From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 26 19:27:33 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D09437B405 for ; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 19:27:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from russian-caravan.cloud9.net (russian-caravan.cloud9.net [168.100.1.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9FF543E6A for ; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 19:27:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Hostmaster@Video2Video.Com) Received: from earl-grey.cloud9.net (earl-grey.cloud9.net [168.100.1.1]) by russian-caravan.cloud9.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3206428C59; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 22:27:29 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 22:27:29 -0400 (EDT) From: Peter Leftwich X-X-Sender: To: Dan Nelson Cc: Michael Wells , FreeBSD LIST Subject: Re: Peter heads back to M$FT WinBloze [integrate X] In-Reply-To: <20020727011504.GA83240@dan.emsphone.com> Message-ID: <20020726222107.T22790-100000@earl-grey.cloud9.net> Organization: Video2Video Services - http://Www.Video2Video.Com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 26 Jul 2002, Dan Nelson wrote: > Peter> Will FreeBSD's core of developers ever leap into integrating X *and* a window manager (something similar to Windows)? I surely hope so. > If you mean pulling X into the FreeBSD CVS tree and deciding on a > single window manager, definitely not. Although if you call having an Maybe as a default, or just *having* a default window manager is not a bad idea. CVS-savvy and code-savvy FreeBSD users could easily over-ride. > XFree86-Server package, and over a dozen window manager packages, > selectable by sysinstall during the install process, integration, we > already have it, and have for years. > -- > Dan Nelson - dnelson@allantgroup.com The packages offered by the sysinstall process are usually behind by a few weeks. When I installed 4.3 from CDROMs, it wasn't clear how to install and/or upgrade over FTP. At the time (Feb 2002), XFree86 3.3.6 was the only GUI available and from sysinstall, the process of choosing a windows manager was confusing. Perhaps in the future we'll have a NoviceWM or BeginnerWM or the like. This would be similar to how UNIX ISPs offer a UNIX shell known as "lush" or learning unix shell -- the employees may jokingly call this loser-user-shell because it is a menu'ed way to explore a limited set of UNIX commands. Perhaps sysinstall will feature much better FAQ's and HOWTO documents detailing video drivers, X, and windows managers one day... -- Peter Leftwich President & Founder Video2Video Services Box 13692, La Jolla, CA, 92039 USA +1-413-403-9555 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message