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[174.109.231.236]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id d203sm17882987qkc.10.2020.07.27.03.30.44 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Mon, 27 Jul 2020 03:30:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4BFbg7226Vz1GhZ for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2020 06:30:43 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.102.3 at scorpio.seibercom.net Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2020 06:30:36 -0400 From: Jerry To: "User Questions" Subject: Re: Ask stupid questions and you'll get a stupid answers, was: Technological advantages over Linux Message-ID: <20200727063036.31316d93@scorpio.seibercom.net> In-Reply-To: References: <20200725162403.GA4721@admin.sibptus.ru> <20200725182554.deffc63058a7c9f6d343ef06@sohara.org> <04df312d-9b2b-1873-2117-79a49e089bd9@kicp.uchicago.edu> <20200726063256.GA22924@admin.sibptus.ru> <20200726093909.ee5e14e643d31da4dad5c804@sohara.org> <20200726151835.GA35966@admin.sibptus.ru> <27ca8c6c-6b06-6ad4-7af0-2b88f51a3856@kicp.uchicago.edu> <20200726165212.a0ac28ce104b9dfd009cc4c5@sohara.org> <20200727025242.GA48950@admin.sibptus.ru> <04bb7095-3e62-22d7-9db7-cfba3c66247b@kicp.uchicago.edu> Reply-To: "User Questions" Organization: seibercom NET X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.17.5 (GTK+ 2.24.32; amd64-portbld-freebsd11.4) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; boundary="Sig_/aXhFQYa8FXbhV9t6yPg2Uz8"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4BFbgD0LTlz4mxv X-Spamd-Bar: ++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=seibercom.net header.s=google header.b=InPmmo26; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of jerry@seibercom.net designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::744 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=jerry@seibercom.net X-Spamd-Result: default: False [2.35 / 15.00]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[seibercom.net:+]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.37)[-0.367]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; REPLYTO_EQ_TO_ADDR(5.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[174.109.231.236:received]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.72)[-0.720]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[seibercom.net:s=google]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.97)[-0.966]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[seibercom.net]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::744:from]; GREYLIST(0.00)[pass,meta]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2020 10:30:49 -0000 --Sig_/aXhFQYa8FXbhV9t6yPg2Uz8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 05:18:13 -0400, Aryeh Friedman stated: >On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 4:50 AM Roderick wrote: > >> >> On Mon, 27 Jul 2020, Aryeh Friedman wrote: >> =20 >> > All this being said there is a rash of *SOME* of the regular set >> > of =20 >> posters =20 >> > who say "FreeBSD is not designed for XYZ, don't use it for XYZ use >> > Linux instead" (this is not helpful and is nothing but being a >> > troll). =20 >> >> A completely acceptable answer. >> >> What is not acceptable, is, converting the mailbox of each of the >> (hundreds? thouthands?) members of the list into a chat room for >> small talk. >> >> For small talk is more appropriate the mentioned >> =20 > >Not according to the handbook's description of each list: > >-questions@: User questions and technical support >-chat@: Non-technical items related to the FreeBSD community > >The questions being asked were by a user of FreeBSD and were technical >in nature (the technical merits of FreeBSD vs. Linux). Here are the >other possible lists and by their descriptions none of them made sense >for the subject matter of the OP's post: > >-advocacy@: FreeBSD Evangelism (the OP was not asking how to market >FreeBSD just defend it on technical grounds to upper management of >their org) -women@: Victor is not a very female name (enough said) > >There is no -smalltalk@ list and even if there was it would be a >misleading name since there is a programming language by that name. > >So the bottom line is @questions- is the best (and only) place for such >threads. If you want a new group, suggest one to the owners of the >freebsd mailing lists and see if you can make one. > >or the web forum >> >> https://forums.freebsd.org =20 > > >The handbook says mailing lists are the prefered way to communicate >about FreeBSD so suggesting the forum is pointless if you want to get >the widest possible input. To quote "The mailing lists are the most >direct way of addressing questions or opening a technical discussion >to a concentrated FreeBSD audience." In keeping with my 'KISS' principal, why not simply start a new list, appropriately titled: "FreeBSD vs. Linux". In order to insure a viable user base, follow the same procedure as the the regular FreeBSD questions list and allow postings sans any preregistration. I belong to other forums where a similar technique is used to route messages to the appropriate message board. I assume it is technologically possible to implement that on FreeBSD. I know Linux and Microsoft boards that employ that procedure. :) --=20 Jerry --Sig_/aXhFQYa8FXbhV9t6yPg2Uz8 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAEBCAAdFiEEIQb/tTwl6I1ueEVtOHMGOIfexWQFAl8erMwACgkQOHMGOIfe xWRDzQf/SRIqNZlpRX98xhFQbnvfm4dnC5k4mTuea6YawosFN3AlNDefQbgG00my olZH8fv9TbCo5kKeW9nVxmkn9xxKZbzU6Ubfe8bp7wzJcfsuuIv4vYPV7Z0JnaVm 2AtZsz03N6dh5U3fSEjalSoAy9MsnuXkWXnlUCoX+QxQ9X2KM1sdbdzMhNhxACNP 6Kg3LtC4ZqFPON8I+LBOEz8HvM38aoPpoiPbYrgLN/4RrruSpnxKrgId1SNaCzQZ 0enFi3yABmvX+Ck3iSa4BW+ZojQFipElXi0E8TrkfvTDfyMxXpPl5kjdnAMjD/X4 gKCb3M8Vfnzx30AgGcI4Fx/MFBaG7A== =ha/X -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/aXhFQYa8FXbhV9t6yPg2Uz8--