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Date:      Tue, 11 Nov 1997 05:26:49 +0000 (GMT)
From:      Terry Lambert <tlambert@primenet.com>
To:        jkh@time.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard)
Cc:        tlambert@primenet.com, helbig@Informatik.BA-Stuttgart.DE, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Newest Pentium bug (fatal)
Message-ID:  <199711110526.WAA21873@usr02.primenet.com>
In-Reply-To: <17165.879196838@time.cdrom.com> from "Jordan K. Hubbard" at Nov 10, 97 01:20:38 pm

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> Terry, when will you learn?  People aren't just sitting on their
> thumbs waiting for Terry The Great Motivator to kick them into action,
> there are other major stumbling blocks in the way which are
> drastically impeding progress, one such being the fact that Digital
> has been completely and totally unable to provide *any* technical
> documentation on these machines!  NetBSD also doesn't run on them, so
> we can't even look "next door" for a peek at what's going on under
> their hood, so to speak, and the fact that they run DUX is of little
> use since DUX doesn't come with source code.

Gee, sounds like you picked the perfoect porting platform... and me
sitting here with this Multia with full system documentation, NetBSD
source that runs on the thing, Linux source that runs on the thing,
and a partial port of the FreeBSD VM code to the thing!  Boy, is my
face red!


> If you really want to help then either get some documentation out of
> Digital using your direct pipeline to God (of course Terry talks
> directly to God, hasn't everyone here realized that by now? ;-) or
> get us a free source code license to Digital Unix so that we can
> crib code from them.

Oh, yeah, THAT'LL happen.

BTW: it's not the people who talk to God you have to worry about, it's
the people who claim God talks to them, and that somehow ennobles their
position in any discussion.


> Either way, get off your high horse and realize that not all issues
> can be conveniently steamrollered out of the way just because you say
> they should be.  If you think an ALPHA port to the Miata is so simple
> then why don't *you* do it?

Sorry, I only had $400 to sepnd on hardware.  If you can't afford
hardware and had to have DEC donate it, you probably shoould have
gotten them to donate documentation at the same time...

PS: Have you checked to see if Linux runs on the thing?


					Terry Lambert
					terry@lambert.org
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Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present
or previous employers.



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