From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Sep 6 21:44:36 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FD2AD7FD7 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 2019 21:44:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.133]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46QB0f5yXgz3C5C for ; Fri, 6 Sep 2019 21:44:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([188.102.101.54]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue009 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1MVvCn-1hhIeO1f7N-00Rtxy; Fri, 06 Sep 2019 23:44:13 +0200 Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2019 23:44:11 +0200 From: Polytropon To: "@lbutlr" Cc: Aleksandr via freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Convert MBR Partitions to GPT Message-Id: <20190906234411.9aba1e00.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <1ef6d7eb-a7c9-2a5d-12b2-20c4ef255523@wavecable.com> <20190902133941.e563291f.freebsd@edvax.de> <0e0c086c-a907-d224-98b8-9486d921e7a5@wavecable.com> <20190902141116.264edd01.freebsd@edvax.de> <88cabc53-eff5-3e1a-6e77-2d86da2b8c8d@wavecable.com> <20190902164836.98486301.freebsd@edvax.de> <20190906132003.a0e2c6a0.freebsd@edvax.de> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:6bsKPKF8V9vAg13VD8BFO1HS3OoaBSPhd/IUs5ESN2tLA8ErrCs ij19N9Idj7wL+I9WhRe7pCutnvaTaMrXYCqhaKRLF4tV+2OEzL90F9YrpHXJZyjV+D0L/nM EN2eWvloLi7eOWtfNzgO8xCTA7z7qkTB4rmJdl9ZO0S1eUHAeDHIZSH72Urek0B5YcsCOtn dp8RHZvDZIr1XpjhjqARg== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:9D7U73Vh8g8=:ki/9kQIF/FwSHEbVWnGtqP hCLVfjSGa4Vy3FU6V9aH54L8juHDdg7C5vOwlsqb9HX1MrXjSdow5al9XuMR3UmojrlDK1Vom X/lLB3BwONp5BeoWl3cBT7KUxIOQAE108uQxQ27lpfOMPvK4hDT4S4nGXQJxKZsqgpTZc43BH Xd2RB1r7fqaBFQ1zjfvB3WbSwr3oZtDu1h0TyCFnrARlZOFkh/vik8dZLiQL3c7v3g2xx1geg H5qjmXjLGGXEsJ4jhsfycpvnjDcqWfDNlAI6Syr1rTUCemXH4taGm02a22+f+w+bH9rDfb4OB YannRAH+RsN3uiCuFHWL6Rhm2o5bySHg3tnoS2Wu5fVJ4hjU/LqxHODXmkFeRbpxjxJogn2Pd aEZbbStRokh/ugsxg53/Ww8RNwJH5JSWGB/RX2VG/lAz6xI7qM/4CC1HGSCQBvTiTvLiULZK/ 2gBdqAkTNVwOBBLqF2B9WnGbUW6TEWR+x/SWL/GPOab7m5z6PGOZKdvD3ocUuKSfFenLl+OVY MHGgJnAEYyABaFDmo7YFk2MWq/jCeiPZFJYMFKz9i6Jn7xEFIbUpM2YY55b23GehAsp+gicFy 6b+Bmz69CDPErccF9Q68j98xJonZ4DDeXMYdktl9Bo+RqxtbIuttPJg7Cb4sJmphDpDVkHLu/ hRzVb+NWcZ3tQ5siHJKdtiDy3xIKpDmsLrzcmFZ7dNlOYt0n3u5TeAQdLiVbV3NhVVNpBPYz0 78nr0ocFm2RI0kP1We4tJtSblFlZGYHhfHDkdiSjI9TGdTwcI42/YZNOcp2kJmKH/2jZL1EtW 6lRlTxgbLKY2bJq+NIL7lCNa8iz+8DLkW+9vHeIN+RhygqWsZI= X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46QB0f5yXgz3C5C X-Spamd-Bar: +++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd@edvax.de has no SPF policy when checking 212.227.126.133) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd@edvax.de X-Spamd-Result: default: False [5.51 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@edvax.de]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:212.227.0.0/16, country:DE]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[54.101.102.188.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.11]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.83)[0.829,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[edvax.de]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.72)[0.723,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.99)[0.991,0]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[133.126.227.212.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; IP_SCORE(0.57)[ip: (2.04), ipnet: 212.227.0.0/16(-1.37), asn: 8560(2.17), country: DE(-0.01)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Sep 2019 21:44:36 -0000 On Fri, 6 Sep 2019 12:25:21 -0600, @lbutlr wrote: > On 6 Sep 2019, at 05:20, Polytropon wrote: > > Now, journaling tends to cause problems when using dump to backup > > data partition-wise (e. g., "dump -0Lauf /mnt/rootfs.dmp /dev/ada0p2”). > > I’m not sure that is a problem with journaling as opposed to a problem > with dump. I'm not primarily complaining about the problems between journaling and dump, I'm complaining because the _choice_ is gone (or at least choice now requires additional booting and fiddling with what has been possible with ye olde sysinstall for decades). > Pick one fo the following: > > 1. Journaling and rsync/tar/etc > 2. ZFS Journaling/snapshots and dump to your heart's content > 3. Use an older disk format This is not always possible. Imagine a setting where you need to introduce a new UFS-based system to a conglomerate where dumps are obtained automatically at runtime. None (!) of the things listed above is a solution. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...