From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jun 16 14:06:36 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58E1533AA7D for ; Tue, 16 Jun 2020 14:06:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: from mail-il1-x12c.google.com (mail-il1-x12c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::12c]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49mVP75dYjz43d3 for ; Tue, 16 Jun 2020 14:06:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: by mail-il1-x12c.google.com with SMTP id a13so1785699ilh.3 for ; Tue, 16 Jun 2020 07:06:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=s/HSN6NTlWcKiPUHnnkFhAfdVrl1OanLgb9w0SrnUrc=; b=uH5nsaCA2CU+eLFRrhG3EihdEYg825iEYOtfvXjN3QtATsdFcSbYglF1+69lsHl4pa rRG8GYMp8XPZnd19yMszQIYSrSAbeLhA78FIV+1DOxjQc1CRSeZaD5Zj90vsQbW+ubUk duCaU4Rm0x9g3ER3hxPnTi9N7uRS4db1pg1ruyHbykmnGCzCNw0bd4a5hKaAv6CcaDSr pTYTwAhWG1KYKaFGz2tImZIQx/iS+uHC55QnRKBpY9K614SevsUMmlXKLYx7cAPltuOK bcTAJTjpGNIspDQ17KB0ypeyRKm3kG9DYsDMasE8yNZV2vKQ3HcQwyWb0dY0Rb1g8hbB DjYA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=s/HSN6NTlWcKiPUHnnkFhAfdVrl1OanLgb9w0SrnUrc=; b=XFKBkQC+B+XVzSgCZRmtE248ogZwwsWmCLbYLNI3+i1nH+hhd3CiErY5ltXX0BCPic wSBnsPsEpgZxLng8CuFhp+jjwoWlJlnO9yhjyGdgyRbAHysCUK17rFU5BAbZ0Z4HYpb/ im37Eq6lzaKoAb1k9IxfimOxYLuEsKMaNiWZ2B7F5LNDT5juhsaj8URxekYbQKr2y6+e MDeVwnWB439hrwB1ChZems+xMzMgV4fP4N1aP9V5P3NgSXLTaNjYD0tp+BAFWqzjNzHk IguIvljnI8TWSuNHXn6Asym7cn6FciYXwXRD1dtkfatP6v7GOu8DBTwsSIJqp7ZkuN2L omOw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530qZrU9hVBP0f1U3AyCHP8vkLHm9g+mOciIqGNRRrE1QBqr0qhy 8d/fddHmB3IQhNBdgQ3Q9XgTFluL2pSMjg6mlPgGDIT3 X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzYlteDaSzB6gdREJH7iI1VxyjZBnMoiLEM3JPK4jyuiA8K8KUdYYKYWlH7NlFxWGeEjvwC1VrM874QbBAjm6o= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6e02:10c:: with SMTP id t12mr3183041ilm.187.1592316394880; Tue, 16 Jun 2020 07:06:34 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20200613154409.GA89618@neutralgood.org> <13115.1592302784@segfault.tristatelogic.com> <20200616071153.00006f4d@seibercom.net> <20200616075548.000066f1@seibercom.net> <20200616140416.bd7b8bf2.freebsd@edvax.de> <20200616142043.7d599458.freebsd@edvax.de> <20200616144141.6203d978e9bd43418b17dcbc@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: From: Aryeh Friedman Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2020 10:06:23 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Mailing List Etiquette was freebsd vs. netbsd To: Chris Knipe Cc: "Steve O'Hara-Smith" , Polytropon , FreeBSD - X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49mVP75dYjz43d3 X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=uH5nsaCA; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of aryehfriedman@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::12c as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=aryehfriedman@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.04 / 15.00]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.04)[-1.044]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.99)[-0.991]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::12c:from]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.00)[-0.001]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com:dkim] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.33 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2020 14:06:36 -0000 On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 10:04 AM Chris Knipe wrote: > > > On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 4:01 PM Aryeh Friedman > wrote: > >> >> >> On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 9:54 AM Chris Knipe wrote: >> >>> >>> Why can't your MUA be intelligent enough to wrap emails with > 74 >>> characters on a line? >>> >> >> Because programs that try to be "smart" about things are often "too smart >> for their own good". For example what is to stop it from wrapping >> something that for various reasons *HAS* to be longer than 74 chars (like >> code) when such wrapping destroys the ability to cut and paste from the MUA >> into another file for testing? >> >> Here goes a good example: >> >> > Simple - don't email it. If you do, attach it as an attachment (MIME is > there for a reason)... > > There's GIT / CVS / Take your pick for a reason... :-) > If you don't like email then you should not be using FreeBSD because for better or worse the community has standardized on email as the primary tech support venue and thus absolutely needs to have something that can be used to give tech support (including 100% accurate cut and pasting). -- Aryeh M. Friedman, Lead Developer, http://www.PetiteCloud.org