From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun Oct 15 06:05:06 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id GAA24385 for hardware-outgoing; Sun, 15 Oct 1995 06:05:06 -0700 Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id GAA24367 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 1995 06:04:47 -0700 Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id XAA04448; Sun, 15 Oct 1995 23:05:40 +0930 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199510151335.XAA04448@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: Memory upgrade problems w/ 2.0.5R To: pete@dsw.com (Pete Kruckenberg) Date: Sun, 15 Oct 1995 23:05:40 +0930 (CST) Cc: hardware@freebsd.org, hackers@freefall.freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Pete Kruckenberg" at Oct 14, 95 12:39:31 pm Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1044 Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Pete Kruckenberg stands accused of saying: > modified my conf file with 'options MEMMAX="98304"', then rebuilt the > kernel > when building the kernel, I use optimizations (gcc 2.6.3): > -O2 -m486 -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe -O2 is broken, and will result in bad code being generated. This is possibly your problem. > So, would this indicate a hardware problem, or a software problem, or > what? I'm a little hesitant to try this again until I know how to avoid > it. As soon as 2.1 comes out, I'll probably upgrade the OS, but I would > like to bump it up to 96MB now, if possible. Refrob your compile options first 8) > Pete Kruckenberg -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] My car has "demand start" -Terry Lambert UNIX: live FreeBSD or die! [[ From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun Oct 15 12:27:27 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id MAA06166 for hardware-outgoing; Sun, 15 Oct 1995 12:27:27 -0700 Received: from Sysiphos (Sysiphos.MI.Uni-Koeln.DE [134.95.212.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id MAA06161 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 1995 12:27:22 -0700 Received: by Sysiphos id AA27823 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for hardware@freebsd.org); Sun, 15 Oct 1995 20:23:45 +0100 Message-Id: <199510151923.AA27823@Sysiphos> From: se@zpr.uni-koeln.de (Stefan Esser) Date: Sun, 15 Oct 1995 20:23:44 +0100 In-Reply-To: Pete Kruckenberg "Memory upgrade problems w/ 2.0.5R" (Oct 14, 12:39) X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.6 alpha(2) 7/9/95) To: Pete Kruckenberg Subject: Re: Memory upgrade problems w/ 2.0.5R Cc: hardware@freebsd.org, hackers@freefall.freebsd.org Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Oct 14, 12:39, Pete Kruckenberg wrote: } Subject: Memory upgrade problems w/ 2.0.5R } Last night, I attempted to upgrade my FreeBSD 2.0.5R news/Web server from } 64 to 96MB. It ended in slight disaster. I wanted to find out if I missed } something critical, or if one or both of my SIMMs might have been bad. } } Here's what I did: } } modified my conf file with 'options MEMMAX="98304"', then rebuilt the } kernel } when building the kernel, I use optimizations (gcc 2.6.3): } -O2 -m486 -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe Hmm, is "-fomit-frame-pointer" legal when compiling the kernel ??? Maybe something depends on the stack always being in "standard" format ? -- Stefan Esser, Zentrum fuer Paralleles Rechnen Tel: +49 221 4706021 Universitaet zu Koeln, Weyertal 80, 50931 Koeln FAX: +49 221 4705160 ============================================================================== http://www.zpr.uni-koeln.de/staff/esser/esser.html From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun Oct 15 16:22:57 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id QAA14638 for hardware-outgoing; Sun, 15 Oct 1995 16:22:57 -0700 Received: from smokey.ee.washington.edu (smokey.ee.washington.edu [128.95.75.8]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id QAA14616 ; Sun, 15 Oct 1995 16:22:51 -0700 Received: (from olsenc@localhost) by smokey.ee.washington.edu (8.6.11/8.6.9) id QAA06660; Sun, 15 Oct 1995 16:22:35 -0700 From: Clint Olsen Message-Id: <199510152322.QAA06660@smokey.ee.washington.edu> Subject: Re: scsi(8) requested output here To: msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au (Michael Smith) Date: Sun, 15 Oct 1995 16:22:35 -0700 (PDT) Cc: hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199510130856.SAA18626@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> from "Michael Smith" at Oct 13, 95 06:26:31 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1340 Sender: owner-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Hello: > This has nothing to do with the MD21; you can't edit a disklabel if > there isn't one there yet. You'll have to write one out first. > > disklabel -w -r sd0 It would be nice if somewhere this little fact was DOCUMENTED IN THE FAQ!!!!! <------- CLUE CLUE CLUE You know, I really hate to bitch, but did it ever occur to anyone that one might want to create a label by editing it first????? > Pick a label at random from /etc/disktab, and then use disklabel -e to > correct it. Thanks for the heads up on this, but I would like to point out that the above advice can cause problems. Just picking any old random entry from disktab caused us no end of grief. You pretty much have to get the values correct the first time you write the label because disktab bitches when you try to relabel the disk (and will not let you) when it happens to move the "c" partition significantly. Once we were able to clobber the existing label, using dd, we were able to rerun disklabel. We were forced to deal with the cryptic nonsense of disktab. So, is there a way to use scsi(8) commands to have a disk spew back data about its physical characterstics (heads, sectors/track, blah blah)? I just cannot imagine how much fun this would've been if I had intended to split up the disk between DOS and FreeBSD. Thanks, -Clint From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun Oct 15 16:47:23 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id QAA15846 for hardware-outgoing; Sun, 15 Oct 1995 16:47:23 -0700 Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.19]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id QAA15829 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 1995 16:47:19 -0700 Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id JAA01901; Mon, 16 Oct 1995 09:44:39 +1000 Date: Mon, 16 Oct 1995 09:44:39 +1000 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199510152344.JAA01901@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: pete@dsw.com, se@zpr.uni-koeln.de Subject: Re: Memory upgrade problems w/ 2.0.5R Cc: hackers@freefall.freebsd.org, hardware@freebsd.org Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >} when building the kernel, I use optimizations (gcc 2.6.3): >} -O2 -m486 -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe >Hmm, is "-fomit-frame-pointer" legal >when compiling the kernel ??? >Maybe something depends on the stack >always being in "standard" format ? Only profiling and debugging should depend on the stack frame. Bruce From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun Oct 15 17:35:09 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id RAA20589 for hardware-outgoing; Sun, 15 Oct 1995 17:35:09 -0700 Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id RAA20570 ; Sun, 15 Oct 1995 17:35:02 -0700 Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id KAA05376; Mon, 16 Oct 1995 10:35:49 +0930 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199510160105.KAA05376@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: scsi(8) requested output here To: olsenc@smokey.ee.washington.edu (Clint Olsen) Date: Mon, 16 Oct 1995 10:35:48 +0930 (CST) Cc: hardware@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199510152322.QAA06660@smokey.ee.washington.edu> from "Clint Olsen" at Oct 15, 95 04:22:35 pm Content-Type: text Content-Length: 2521 Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Clint Olsen stands accused of saying: > > This has nothing to do with the MD21; you can't edit a disklabel if > > there isn't one there yet. You'll have to write one out first. > > > > disklabel -w -r sd0 > > It would be nice if somewhere this little fact was DOCUMENTED IN > THE FAQ!!!!! <------- CLUE CLUE CLUE It would actually be nice if someone would sponsor me a working holiday to write a _real_disk_editor_, or write one themselves. Hey, maybe with the experience fresh in your mind _YOU_ could write the FAQ entry? After all, they don't just magically appear, do they? 8) > You know, I really hate to bitch, but did it ever occur to anyone > that one might want to create a label by editing it first????? Yeah, about every other time I answer this question 8( > > Pick a label at random from /etc/disktab, and then use disklabel -e to > > correct it. > > Thanks for the heads up on this, but I would like to point out that > the above advice can cause problems. Just picking any old random > entry from disktab caused us no end of grief. You pretty much have > to get the values correct the first time you write the label because > disktab bitches when you try to relabel the disk (and will not let > you) when it happens to move the "c" partition significantly. Once > we were able to clobber the existing label, using dd, we were able > to rerun disklabel. We were forced to deal with the cryptic nonsense > of disktab. I've never had this problem; then again, I normally start with a small label and grow it, wheras I suspect you were starting with a big one and shrinking it. > So, is there a way to use scsi(8) commands to have a disk spew back > data about its physical characterstics (heads, sectors/track, blah > blah)? You want the BIOS parameters, not the (bogus) parameters that the disk will give you. > I just cannot imagine how much fun this would've been if I had > intended to split up the disk between DOS and FreeBSD. Trivial, once you understand what's going on. However, understanding what's going on is not a reasonable expectation, so something needs to be done. > -Clint -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] My car has "demand start" -Terry Lambert UNIX: live FreeBSD or die! [[ From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun Oct 15 17:45:31 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id RAA20955 for hardware-outgoing; Sun, 15 Oct 1995 17:45:31 -0700 Received: from hda.com (hda.com [199.232.40.182]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id RAA20935 ; Sun, 15 Oct 1995 17:45:25 -0700 Received: (from dufault@localhost) by hda.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id QAA04303; Sun, 15 Oct 1995 16:46:51 -0400 From: Peter Dufault Message-Id: <199510152046.QAA04303@hda.com> Subject: Re: scsi(8) requested output here To: olsenc@smokey.ee.washington.edu (Clint Olsen) Date: Sun, 15 Oct 1995 16:46:50 -0400 (EDT) Cc: msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au, hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199510152322.QAA06660@smokey.ee.washington.edu> from "Clint Olsen" at Oct 15, 95 04:22:35 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 604 Sender: owner-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > So, is there a way to use scsi(8) commands to have a disk spew back > data about its physical characterstics (heads, sectors/track, blah > blah)? Boot with the verbose flag (by specifying -v at the boot prompt) and you'll get that info printed out. You can also check the format device page (page 3) and the geometry page (page 4) to find how the drive is setup; use "scsi -f /dev/rsd?.ctl -m 3" (and 4) to read those two pages. -- Peter Dufault Real Time Machine Control and Simulation HD Associates, Inc. Voice: 508 433 6936 dufault@hda.com Fax: 508 433 5267 From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Oct 16 00:01:17 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id AAA27870 for hardware-outgoing; Mon, 16 Oct 1995 00:01:17 -0700 Received: from dsw.com (root@gate.dsw.com [206.43.0.254]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id AAA27860 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 1995 00:01:15 -0700 Received: from dsw.dsw.com by dsw.com (8.6.12) id BAA16444; Mon, 16 Oct 1995 01:01:10 -0600 Date: Mon, 16 Oct 1995 01:01:08 -0600 (MDT) From: Pete Kruckenberg To: hackers@freefall.freebsd.org, hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Memory upgrade problems w/ 2.0.5R In-Reply-To: <199510151335.XAA04448@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 15 Oct 1995, Michael Smith wrote: > Pete Kruckenberg stands accused of saying: > > modified my conf file with 'options MEMMAX="98304"', then rebuilt the > > kernel > > when building the kernel, I use optimizations (gcc 2.6.3): > > -O2 -m486 -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe > > -O2 is broken, and will result in bad code being generated. This is > possibly your problem. Well, at the suggestion of a couple of people, I'll rebuild a kernel using just -O for optimizations, and see how it goes. Thanks for your input. Pete Kruckenberg pete@dsw.com From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Oct 16 11:21:28 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id LAA16187 for hardware-outgoing; Mon, 16 Oct 1995 11:21:28 -0700 Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id LAA16160 ; Mon, 16 Oct 1995 11:21:16 -0700 Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id LAA24983; Mon, 16 Oct 1995 11:14:30 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199510161814.LAA24983@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: scsi(8) requested output here To: msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au (Michael Smith) Date: Mon, 16 Oct 1995 11:14:30 -0700 (MST) Cc: olsenc@smokey.ee.washington.edu, hardware@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199510160105.KAA05376@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> from "Michael Smith" at Oct 16, 95 10:35:48 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 456 Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > It would actually be nice if someone would sponsor me a working holiday to > write a _real_disk_editor_, or write one themselves. I have code that you could start with. It knows about reading both partitions and extended partitions. Note that a disklabel is just a BSD-specific way of doing extended partitions. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Oct 16 19:41:54 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id TAA05069 for hardware-outgoing; Mon, 16 Oct 1995 19:41:54 -0700 Received: from nomad.osmre.gov (nomad.osmre.gov [192.243.129.244]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id TAA05061 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 1995 19:41:49 -0700 Received: (from gfoster@localhost) by nomad.osmre.gov (8.6.11/8.6.9) id WAA07727; Mon, 16 Oct 1995 22:41:21 -0400 Date: Mon, 16 Oct 1995 22:41:21 -0400 From: Glen Foster Message-Id: <199510170241.WAA07727@nomad.osmre.gov> To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Stargate 8??? Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Folks, Anybody know anything about this multi-port serial card? Could it possibly be AST|Boca|Digi|Cyclades compatible? I'll probably give it a try anyway as the price is extremely right (although it's probably worth exactly what I paid for it!) TIA, Glen Foster From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Oct 17 06:26:31 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id GAA25100 for hardware-outgoing; Tue, 17 Oct 1995 06:26:31 -0700 Received: from deputy.pavilion.co.uk (deputy.pavilion.co.uk [194.193.24.33]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id GAA25090 ; Tue, 17 Oct 1995 06:26:17 -0700 Received: from poolb48.pavilion.co.uk (poolb48.pavilion.co.uk [194.193.28.112]) by deputy.pavilion.co.uk (8.7/8.7) with SMTP id OAA16923; Tue, 17 Oct 1995 14:25:27 +0100 (BST) Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 14:25:27 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <199510171325.OAA16923@deputy.pavilion.co.uk> X-Sender: aledm@mailhost.pavilion.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: hackers@freebsd.org From: aledm@pavilion.co.uk (Aled Morris) Subject: ATAPI & triple CD-ROM Cc: hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Does anyone know if the ATAPI drivers (for IDE CD-ROM) support the Triple CD-ROM juke-box drives, as found in some Gateway 2000 high-end systems? Under DOS the three platters appear as three different drives, and the autochanger brings the "current" disk in as appropriate. Will the ATAPI driver be able to read the first platter as if it were a single disk drive? I am recommending FreeBSD to a friend with such a system, hence my ignorance of this area. Aled -- telephone +44 973 207987 From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Oct 17 12:44:09 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id MAA04808 for hardware-outgoing; Tue, 17 Oct 1995 12:44:09 -0700 Received: from fgate.flevel.co.uk (fgate.flevel.co.uk [194.6.101.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id MAA04802 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 1995 12:43:58 -0700 Received: (from freebsd@localhost) by fgate.flevel.co.uk (8.6.11/8.6.9) id UAA00790; Tue, 17 Oct 1995 20:46:43 +0100 Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 20:46:43 +0100 (BST) From: freebsd To: hardware@freebsd.org cc: david@flevel.co.uk Subject: WAN cards Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I am interested in WAN cards for installation under NetBSD on PCI buses. Can anyone make any recommendations and or suggestions. It is for connecting to 64k and 128k X21 presented direct lines. Information about prices/distributors /specifications and installation benefits/difficulties would be appreciated. I do need some information fairly quickly - please send any information to me directly to my personal mail box if at all possible. I would really like to get some information from experienced users of suitable equipment if that is possible. If email is inconvenient/unsuitable potential suppliers can ftp information to ftp.flevel.co.uk /pub/incoming All help would be much appreciated. david S. From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Oct 17 16:02:08 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id QAA12511 for hardware-outgoing; Tue, 17 Oct 1995 16:02:08 -0700 Received: from ref.tfs.com (ref.tfs.com [140.145.254.251]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id QAA12501 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 1995 16:02:00 -0700 Received: (from julian@localhost) by ref.tfs.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id QAA19071; Tue, 17 Oct 1995 16:00:28 -0700 From: Julian Elischer Message-Id: <199510172300.QAA19071@ref.tfs.com> Subject: Re: WAN cards To: freebsd@fgate.flevel.co.uk (freebsd) Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 16:00:28 -0700 (PDT) Cc: hardware@freebsd.org, david@flevel.co.uk In-Reply-To: from "freebsd" at Oct 17, 95 08:46:43 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1571 Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk well, I don't know exactly about NetBSD, but for FreeBSD you could talk to 'emerging technoilogies' > Dennis has the following as his .sig so it might be a good starting point.. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Emerging Technologies, Inc. http://www.etinc.com > > Synchronous Communications Boards and Routers for > Discriminating Tastes. 56k to T1 and beyond. Frame > Relay, PPP, HDLC and X.25 julian +----------------------------------+ ______ _ __ | __--_|\ Julian Elischer | \ U \/ / On assignment | / \ julian@ref.tfs.com +------>x USA \ in a very strange | ( OZ ) 300 lakeside Dr. oakland CA. \___ ___ | country ! +- X_.---._/ USA+(510) 645-3137(wk) \_/ \\ v > > > I am interested in WAN cards for installation under NetBSD on PCI buses. > > Can anyone make any recommendations and or suggestions. It is for > connecting to 64k and 128k X21 presented direct lines. Information about > prices/distributors /specifications and installation > benefits/difficulties would be appreciated. > > I do need some information fairly quickly - please send any information > to me directly to my personal mail box if at all possible. I would really > like to get some information from experienced users of suitable equipment > if that is possible. > > If email is inconvenient/unsuitable potential suppliers can ftp > information to ftp.flevel.co.uk /pub/incoming > > All help would be much appreciated. > > david S. > From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Oct 17 20:57:24 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id UAA23280 for hardware-outgoing; Tue, 17 Oct 1995 20:57:24 -0700 Received: from trout.nosc.mil (trout.nosc.mil [128.49.16.7]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id UAA23275 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 1995 20:57:20 -0700 Received: by trout.nosc.mil (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA09266; Tue, 17 Oct 95 20:57:20 PDT Received: by pegasus.com (8.6.8/PEGASUS-2.2) id RAA26901; Tue, 17 Oct 1995 17:56:49 -1001 Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 17:56:49 -1001 From: richard@pegasus.com (Richard Foulk) Message-Id: <199510180357.RAA26901@pegasus.com> X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.5 10/14/92) To: hardware@freebsd.org Subject: motherboards with parity? Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I'd appreciate recommendations for PCI/Pentium motherboards that support parity memory. I understand that Intel is working on a fixed Triton chipset that will support parity checking, but I'm not sure I want to wait that long. And I'll gladly exchange some performance for greater reliability. So, which motherboards provide parity support and work well with BSD? Thanks Richard From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Oct 18 00:21:28 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id AAA02550 for hardware-outgoing; Wed, 18 Oct 1995 00:21:28 -0700 Received: from fgate.flevel.co.uk (fgate.flevel.co.uk [194.6.101.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id AAA02542 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 1995 00:21:23 -0700 Received: (from david@localhost) by fgate.flevel.co.uk (8.6.11/8.6.9) id IAA01724; Wed, 18 Oct 1995 08:24:22 +0100 Date: Wed, 18 Oct 1995 08:24:21 +0100 (BST) From: David Southwell To: freebsd cc: hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: WAN cards In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 17 Oct 1995, freebsd wrote: > > I am interested in WAN cards for installation under NetBSD on PCI buses. ^^^^^^ sorry folks I should have said freeBSD - I have just been doing some work on our Amiga3000 running NetBSD -- <:-( > > Can anyone make any recommendations and or suggestions. It is for > connecting to 64k and 128k X21 presented direct lines. Information about > prices/distributors /specifications and installation > benefits/difficulties would be appreciated. > > I do need some information fairly quickly - please send any information > to me directly to my personal mail box if at all possible. I would really > like to get some information from experienced users of suitable equipment > if that is possible. > > If email is inconvenient/unsuitable potential suppliers can ftp > information to ftp.flevel.co.uk /pub/incoming > > All help would be much appreciated. > > david S. > From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Oct 18 06:24:38 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id GAA01532 for hardware-outgoing; Wed, 18 Oct 1995 06:24:38 -0700 Received: from ki1.chemie.fu-berlin.de (ki1.Chemie.FU-Berlin.DE [160.45.24.21]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id GAA01381 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 1995 06:20:19 -0700 Received: by ki1.chemie.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.28.1) from mail.hanse.de (134.100.239.2) with smtp id ; Wed, 18 Oct 95 14:15 MET Received: from wavehh.UUCP by mail.hanse.de with UUCP for FreeBSD-Hardware@freebsd.org id ; Wed, 18 Oct 95 14:14 MET Received: by wavehh.hanse.de (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA13072; Wed, 18 Oct 95 12:51:20 +0100 Date: Wed, 18 Oct 95 12:51:20 +0100 From: cracauer@wavehh.hanse.de (Martin Cracauer) Message-Id: <9510181151.AA13072@wavehh.hanse.de> To: richard@pegasus.COM Cc: FreeBSD-Hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: motherboards with parity? Newsgroups: hanse-ml.freebsd.hardware References: <199510180357.RAA26901@pegasus.com> Reply-To: cracauer@wavehh.hanse.de Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk richard@pegasus.COM (Richard Foulk) wrote: >I'd appreciate recommendations for PCI/Pentium motherboards that >support parity memory. >I understand that Intel is working on a fixed Triton chipset that will >support parity checking, but I'm not sure I want to wait that long. >And I'll gladly exchange some performance for greater reliability. >So, which motherboards provide parity support and work well with BSD? The Triton Chipset has much better performance, but as you noted, doesn't suport partity. The problem is, that other pentium chipsets not only have worse performance, but also worse PCI support. You can't bet you can run more than one SCSI card in a Neptun board. If you're really looking for reliable hardware, maybe the server hardware by vendors like HP may be your choice. I know they do some (expensive) Machines with ECC memory. Don't know abut their PCI capabilities. Anyone on this list tried such a machine? Martin -- %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Martin Cracauer - Fax +49 40 522 85 36 BSD User Group Hamburg, Germany - No NeXTMail anymore, please. Copyright 1995. Redistribution via Microsoft Network is prohibited From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Oct 18 08:05:54 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id IAA03794 for hardware-outgoing; Wed, 18 Oct 1995 08:05:54 -0700 Received: from gaudi.diatel.upm.es (gaudi.diatel.upm.es [138.100.49.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id IAA03789 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 1995 08:05:49 -0700 Received: by gaudi.diatel.upm.es (4.1/SMI-4.1) Wed, 18 Oct 95 16:05:59 +0100 X400-Received: by mta diatel.upm in /PRMD=/ADMD=/C=/; Relayed; Wed, 18 Oct 1995 16:05:57 UTC+0100 X400-Received: by /PRMD=iris/ADMD=mensatex/C=es/; Relayed; Wed, 18 Oct 1995 16:05:57 UTC+0100 Date: Wed, 18 Oct 1995 16:05:57 UTC+0100 X400-Originator: jmrueda@diatel.upm.es X400-Recipients: non-disclosure:; X400-Content-Type: P2-1984 (2) X400-Mts-Identifier: [/PRMD=iris/ADMD=mensatex/C=es/;951018160557] Content-Identifier: 826 From: Javier Martin Rueda To: hardware@freebsd.org Message-Id: <826*/S=jmrueda/OU=diatel/O=upm/PRMD=iris/ADMD=mensatex/C=es/@MHS> Subject: Re: motherboards with parity? Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Ean X.400 to MIME gateway) Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > The Triton Chipset has much better performance, but as you noted, > doesn't suport partity. > > The problem is, that other pentium chipsets not only have worse > performance, but also worse PCI support. You can't bet you can run > more than one SCSI card in a Neptun board. Are you sure about what you say of the Neptune boards? I'm planning to buy an ASUS PCI/I-P54NP4D motherboard (dual Pentium) and, initially, will run Solaris 2.4 for Intel on it. However, I may run FreeBSD in the future, when it supports SMP. Anyhow, that motherboard uses the Neptune chipset, and I will put at least a couple of PCI cards in it (SCSI and Ethernet). Also, will that mainboard be supported by FreeBSD/SMP? From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Oct 18 14:08:42 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id OAA22223 for hardware-outgoing; Wed, 18 Oct 1995 14:08:42 -0700 Received: from persprog.com (root@persprog.com [204.215.255.203]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id OAA22218 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 1995 14:08:37 -0700 Received: from novell.persprog.com by persprog.com (8.6.9/4.10) id RAA19946; Wed, 18 Oct 1995 17:00:37 -0400 Received: from NOVELL/SpoolDir by novell.persprog.com (Mercury 1.12); Wed, 18 Oct 95 17:00:41 +0500 Received: from SpoolDir by NOVELL (Mercury 1.12); Wed, 18 Oct 95 17:00:22 +0500 From: "David Alderman" Organization: Personalized Programming, Inc. To: Javier Martin Rueda , hardware@FreeBSD.org Date: Wed, 18 Oct 1995 17:00:19 EST Subject: Re: motherboards with parity? X-Confirm-Reading-To: "David Alderman" X-pmrqc: 1 Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows (v1.21) Message-ID: <1582A6752F@novell.persprog.com> Sender: owner-hardware@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Are you sure about what you say of the Neptune boards? > > I'm planning to buy an ASUS PCI/I-P54NP4D motherboard (dual Pentium) > and, initially, will run Solaris 2.4 for Intel on it. However, I may > run FreeBSD in the future, when it supports SMP. > > Anyhow, that motherboard uses the Neptune chipset, and I will put at > least a couple of PCI cards in it (SCSI and Ethernet). > > Also, will that mainboard be supported by FreeBSD/SMP? > Alas, what he says is true. I have an ASUS PCI/E P54NP4 board at work with only one CPU and we have not been able to get a PCI network card to work it. Of course, this machine is running SCO Unix which is not as well supported as FreeBSD;) Since our board has EISA slots as well, we solved the problem with an EISA network card. A non bus-mastering PCI ethernet card might work, but that sort of defeats the purpose of using a high performance card (fast with low CPU overhead). If you really need SMP, and you want to run two bus-mastering devices, you might consider getting the EISA version of the board if it is still available. Maybe a non-Intel chipset motherboard supports both SMP and multiple bus mastering. Anybody else have any ideas? ====================================== When philosophy conflicts with reality, choose reality. Dave Alderman -- dave@persprog.com ====================================== From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Oct 18 23:42:38 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id XAA11988 for hardware-outgoing; Wed, 18 Oct 1995 23:42:38 -0700 Received: from ibp.ibp.fr (ibp.ibp.fr [132.227.60.30]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id XAA11983 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 1995 23:42:35 -0700 Received: from blaise.ibp.fr (blaise.ibp.fr [132.227.60.1]) by ibp.ibp.fr (8.6.12/jtpda-5.0) with ESMTP id HAA19627 ; Thu, 19 Oct 1995 07:42:32 +0100 Received: from (uucp@localhost) by blaise.ibp.fr (8.6.12/jtpda-5.0) with UUCP id HAA07352 ; Thu, 19 Oct 1995 07:42:32 +0100 Received: (from roberto@localhost) by keltia.freenix.fr (8.7.1/keltia-uucp-2.6) id VAA09126; Wed, 18 Oct 1995 21:53:26 +0100 (MET) From: Ollivier Robert Message-Id: <199510182053.VAA09126@keltia.freenix.fr> Subject: Re: motherboards with parity? To: jmrueda@diatel.upm.es (Javier Martin Rueda) Date: Wed, 18 Oct 1995 21:53:26 +0100 (MET) Cc: hardware@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <826*/S=jmrueda/OU=diatel/O=upm/PRMD=iris/ADMD=mensatex/C=es/@MHS> from "Javier Martin Rueda" at Oct 18, 95 04:05:57 pm X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2-CURRENT ctm#1215 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8b] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hardware@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk It seems that Javier Martin Rueda said: > I'm planning to buy an ASUS PCI/I-P54NP4D motherboard (dual Pentium) > Anyhow, that motherboard uses the Neptune chipset, and I will put at > least a couple of PCI cards in it (SCSI and Ethernet). The real problem is that Neptune can handle reliably only *two* bus-master devices. With one SCSI card and one Ethernet, you should be ok. Add a third one and you lose. -- Ollivier ROBERT -=- The daemon is FREE! -=- roberto@keltia.frmug.fr.net FreeBSD keltia.freenix.fr 2.2-CURRENT #0: Sat Oct 14 19:05:10 MET 1995 From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Oct 19 10:59:13 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id KAA26561 for hardware-outgoing; Thu, 19 Oct 1995 10:59:13 -0700 Received: from monster.telekom.lv (root@monster.telekom.lv [194.8.16.106]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id KAA26556 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 1995 10:58:59 -0700 Received: (from webby@localhost) by monster.telekom.lv (8.6.11/8.6.9) id TAA00268; Thu, 19 Oct 1995 19:57:58 +0200 Date: Thu, 19 Oct 1995 19:57:57 +0200 (EET) From: Haralds Jakovels To: hardware@freebsd.org Subject: geometry Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hello, Does anyone know what is the correct geometry for (bt0:2:0): "HP C3323A 4159" type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd1(bt0:2:0): Direct-Access 1003MB (2056008 512 byte sectors) or at least, where I can get it? H. From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Oct 19 11:31:37 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id LAA27253 for hardware-outgoing; Thu, 19 Oct 1995 11:31:37 -0700 Received: from aslan.cdrom.com (aslan.cdrom.com [192.216.223.142]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id LAA27246 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 1995 11:31:35 -0700 Received: from localhost.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by aslan.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id LAA03473; Thu, 19 Oct 1995 11:30:39 -0700 Message-Id: <199510191830.LAA03473@aslan.cdrom.com> X-Authentication-Warning: aslan.cdrom.com: Host localhost.cdrom.com didn't use HELO protocol To: Haralds Jakovels cc: hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: geometry In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 19 Oct 1995 19:57:57 +0200." Date: Thu, 19 Oct 1995 11:30:39 -0700 From: "Justin T. Gibbs" Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >Hello, > >Does anyone know what is the correct geometry for > >(bt0:2:0): "HP C3323A 4159" type 0 fixed SCSI 2 >sd1(bt0:2:0): Direct-Access 1003MB (2056008 512 byte sectors) > >or at least, where I can get it? > >H. The correct geometry is based on your host adapter and drive. What host adapter are you using? -- Justin T. Gibbs =========================================== Software Developer - Walnut Creek CDROM FreeBSD: Turning PCs into workstations =========================================== From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Oct 19 12:30:22 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id MAA29563 for hardware-outgoing; Thu, 19 Oct 1995 12:30:22 -0700 Received: from monster.telekom.lv (root@monster.telekom.lv [194.8.16.106]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id MAA29446 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 1995 12:29:13 -0700 Received: (from webby@localhost) by monster.telekom.lv (8.6.11/8.6.9) id VAA00443; Thu, 19 Oct 1995 21:27:27 +0200 Date: Thu, 19 Oct 1995 21:27:27 +0200 (EET) From: Haralds Jakovels To: "Justin T. Gibbs" cc: hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: geometry In-Reply-To: <199510191830.LAA03473@aslan.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 19 Oct 1995, Justin T. Gibbs wrote: > >(bt0:2:0): "HP C3323A 4159" type 0 fixed SCSI 2 > >sd1(bt0:2:0): Direct-Access 1003MB (2056008 512 byte sectors) > > The correct geometry is based on your host adapte7r and drive. What > host adapter are you using? well, it's the Buslogic - here's the dmesg output bt0: Bt445S/ 0-PCI/EISA/VLB(32bit) bus bt0: reading board settings, busmastering, int=11 bt0: version 3.37, fast sync, parity, 32 mbxs, 32 ccbs it's pretty old afaik, 1992 or something like that. H. From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Oct 19 13:03:25 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id NAA00161 for hardware-outgoing; Thu, 19 Oct 1995 13:03:25 -0700 Received: from ref.tfs.com (ref.tfs.com [140.145.254.251]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id NAA00156 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 1995 13:03:21 -0700 Received: (from julian@localhost) by ref.tfs.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id NAA23566; Thu, 19 Oct 1995 13:02:33 -0700 From: Julian Elischer Message-Id: <199510192002.NAA23566@ref.tfs.com> Subject: Re: geometry To: webby@monster.telekom.lv (Haralds Jakovels) Date: Thu, 19 Oct 1995 13:02:33 -0700 (PDT) Cc: gibbs@freefall.freebsd.org, hardware@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Haralds Jakovels" at Oct 19, 95 09:27:27 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 633 Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk use 64 heads, 32 sectors/track (and # cyls where # == number of MB) > > > > On Thu, 19 Oct 1995, Justin T. Gibbs wrote: > > > >(bt0:2:0): "HP C3323A 4159" type 0 fixed SCSI 2 > > >sd1(bt0:2:0): Direct-Access 1003MB (2056008 512 byte sectors) > > > > The correct geometry is based on your host adapte7r and drive. What > > host adapter are you using? > > well, it's the Buslogic - here's the dmesg output > > bt0: Bt445S/ 0-PCI/EISA/VLB(32bit) bus > bt0: reading board settings, busmastering, int=11 > bt0: version 3.37, fast sync, parity, 32 mbxs, 32 ccbs > > it's pretty old afaik, 1992 or something like that. > > H. > From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Oct 19 14:08:21 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id OAA01984 for hardware-outgoing; Thu, 19 Oct 1995 14:08:21 -0700 Received: from ibp.ibp.fr (ibp.ibp.fr [132.227.60.30]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id OAA01976 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 1995 14:08:13 -0700 Received: from blaise.ibp.fr (blaise.ibp.fr [132.227.60.1]) by ibp.ibp.fr (8.6.12/jtpda-5.0) with ESMTP id WAA04991 ; Thu, 19 Oct 1995 22:06:34 +0100 Received: from (uucp@localhost) by blaise.ibp.fr (8.6.12/jtpda-5.0) with UUCP id WAA09644 ; Thu, 19 Oct 1995 22:06:33 +0100 Received: (from roberto@localhost) by keltia.freenix.fr (8.7.1/keltia-uucp-2.6) id WAA13178; Thu, 19 Oct 1995 22:05:17 +0100 (MET) From: Ollivier Robert Message-Id: <199510192105.WAA13178@keltia.freenix.fr> Subject: Re: geometry To: webby@monster.telekom.lv (Haralds Jakovels) Date: Thu, 19 Oct 1995 22:05:17 +0100 (MET) Cc: hardware@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Haralds Jakovels" at Oct 19, 95 07:57:57 pm X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2-CURRENT ctm#1224 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8b] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk It seems that Haralds Jakovels said: > (bt0:2:0): "HP C3323A 4159" type 0 fixed SCSI 2 > sd1(bt0:2:0): Direct-Access 1003MB (2056008 512 byte sectors) If you boot with "-v" you'll see the geometry offered by the drive. Don't use it. It is a 1003 KB drive, so your geometry is 1003 cyl./64 heads/32 sects. -- Ollivier ROBERT -=- The daemon is FREE! -=- roberto@keltia.frmug.fr.net FreeBSD keltia.freenix.fr 2.2-CURRENT #0: Sat Oct 14 19:05:10 MET 1995 From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Oct 19 15:04:20 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id PAA03594 for hardware-outgoing; Thu, 19 Oct 1995 15:04:20 -0700 Received: from fgate.flevel.co.uk (fgate.flevel.co.uk [194.6.101.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id PAA03587 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 1995 15:04:14 -0700 Received: (from freebsd@localhost) by fgate.flevel.co.uk (8.6.11/8.6.9) id XAA02980; Thu, 19 Oct 1995 23:06:59 +0100 Date: Thu, 19 Oct 1995 23:06:59 +0100 (BST) From: freebsd To: David Southwell cc: hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: WAN cards In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I rexcently posted a message to the list asking for information about WAN cards for installation on PCI and AT buses for running under freebsd. unfortunately it seems as though my subscription to the list was removed in error. So if anyone did follow up the enquiry could they please email me direct Thanks david S. From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Oct 19 15:23:46 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id PAA04310 for hardware-outgoing; Thu, 19 Oct 1995 15:23:46 -0700 Received: from ref.tfs.com (ref.tfs.com [140.145.254.251]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id PAA04304 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 1995 15:23:40 -0700 Received: (from julian@localhost) by ref.tfs.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id PAA23838; Thu, 19 Oct 1995 15:22:43 -0700 From: Julian Elischer Message-Id: <199510192222.PAA23838@ref.tfs.com> Subject: Re: WAN cards To: freebsd@fgate.flevel.co.uk (freebsd) Date: Thu, 19 Oct 1995 15:22:43 -0700 (PDT) Cc: david@fgate.flevel.co.uk, hardware@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "freebsd" at Oct 19, 95 11:06:59 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 428 Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk see www.etinc.com for a reasonable selection of well supported cards. > > > I rexcently posted a message to the list asking for information about WAN > cards for installation on PCI and AT buses for running under freebsd. > > > unfortunately it seems as though my subscription to the list was removed > in error. So if anyone did follow up the enquiry could they please email > me direct > > Thanks > > david S. > From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Oct 20 16:03:02 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id QAA24411 for hardware-outgoing; Fri, 20 Oct 1995 16:03:02 -0700 Received: from apollo.hq.nasa.gov (apollo.hq.nasa.gov [131.182.121.87]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id QAA24405 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 1995 16:03:00 -0700 Received: from wirehead.hq.nasa.gov (wirehead.hq.nasa.gov [131.182.121.88]) by apollo.hq.nasa.gov (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id XAA08475 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 1995 23:04:15 GMT Received: (cshenton@localhost) by wirehead.hq.nasa.gov (8.6.12/8.6.12) id XAA04706; Fri, 20 Oct 1995 23:04:11 GMT Date: Fri, 20 Oct 1995 23:04:11 GMT Message-Id: <199510202304.XAA04706@wirehead.hq.nasa.gov> From: Chris Shenton Newsgroups: comp.periphs.scsi To: hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Sony CDU-76S CDROM -- need SCSI command set (?) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I recently picked up a Sony 4X CDROM drive, model CDU-76S. Windoze-NT sees it fine, both for filesystems and playing CDs. But I usually run my 486 as a FreeBSD box, and although I can mount filesystems from the CDROM, none of the CD-player tools I have can seem to do anything more interesting then EJECT the CD. Attempts to play it cause either "invalid command" responses or the track-display to cycle through the tracks until it comes to the last -- no audio. Interestingly, they do seem to be able to figure out how many tracks are on the device. Can any one give me pointers to the SCSI command set for this drive, or enlighten me as to what I'm doing wrong? Thanks. From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Oct 20 16:53:03 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id QAA25242 for hardware-outgoing; Fri, 20 Oct 1995 16:53:03 -0700 Received: from ref.tfs.com (ref.tfs.com [140.145.254.251]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id QAA25237 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 1995 16:53:01 -0700 Received: (from julian@localhost) by ref.tfs.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id QAA00968; Fri, 20 Oct 1995 16:52:58 -0700 From: Julian Elischer Message-Id: <199510202352.QAA00968@ref.tfs.com> Subject: Re: Sony CDU-76S CDROM -- need SCSI command set (?) To: cshenton@apollo.hq.nasa.gov (Chris Shenton) Date: Fri, 20 Oct 1995 16:52:57 -0700 (PDT) Cc: hardware@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199510202304.XAA04706@wirehead.hq.nasa.gov> from "Chris Shenton" at Oct 20, 95 11:04:11 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1108 Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk SONY believe they know better.. so they didn't impliment the standard SCSI-2 audio commands but used their own.. (I mean no-one uses these devices without BIOS support right?) I THINK there may be a version of one of the cd player packeges (I forget which) that uses the scsi(4) interface to do direct scsi commands to the device. it possibly knows about the sony. (but I can't guarantee it) > > I recently picked up a Sony 4X CDROM drive, model CDU-76S. Windoze-NT > sees it fine, both for filesystems and playing CDs. > > But I usually run my 486 as a FreeBSD box, and although I can mount > filesystems from the CDROM, none of the CD-player tools I have can > seem to do anything more interesting then EJECT the CD. Attempts to > play it cause either "invalid command" responses or the track-display > to cycle through the tracks until it comes to the last -- no > audio. Interestingly, they do seem to be able to figure out how many > tracks are on the device. > > Can any one give me pointers to the SCSI command set for this drive, > or enlighten me as to what I'm doing wrong? Thanks. >