Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2018 12:14:55 +0000 From: Carmel NY <carmel_ny@outlook.com> To: FreeBSD <freebsd-ports@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: portupgrade vs. portmaster Message-ID: <BN6PR2001MB1730FC80D404DADFA084455E80820@BN6PR2001MB1730.namprd20.prod.outlook.com> In-Reply-To: <a539880b-29b8-4d20-9121-a4cb488608a4@VE1EUR02FT063.eop-EUR02.prod.protection.outlook.com> References: <alpine.BSF.2.21.1804291704260.12803@mail.neu.net> <20180429214807.GA85409@elch.exwg.net> <CAN6yY1t50FOZBSySA9W6c2Tf0aNzj2fB_K6fUKZM_s8bB%2BHMsg@mail.gmail.com> <eb6b5782-83e0-0070-92bf-ff163de8ea3c@freebsd.org> <a539880b-29b8-4d20-9121-a4cb488608a4@VE1EUR02FT063.eop-EUR02.prod.protection.outlook.com>
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On Mon, 30 Apr 2018 10:33:48 +0000, Thomas Mueller stated: >from STefan Esser: > >> I used to be a portupgrade user, long ago (years before the introduction >> of the new package tools), but then mobed over to using portmaster. =20 > >> When the package system (PKG-NG) war completely reworked, I heard that >> portupgrade was better adapted to the new tools, but did not verify that >> claim (and instead submitted a few fixes for portmaster). =20 > >> I'm working on a complete rewrite on portmaster, since the original auth= or >> has left the FreeBSD project, years ago, and I found it very hard to wra= p >> my mind around his design when I implemented FLAVOR support in portmaste= r. =20 > >> My time is now spent on completing that new portmaster version, but I st= ill >> fix problems reported in the current portmaster port (but will not imple= ment >> any changes that are not bug-related, to be able to concentrate on the n= ew >> version). =20 > >I'd like the opportunity to try out a new revamped portmaster, having fall= en >behind with my FreeBSD installations. > >Current portmaster, even before FLAVORS, was clumsy upgrading a large numb= er >of ports, especially when there is an upgrade of perl or png. > >I see hardly any mention of synth on the freebsd-ports list. Have synth >users become disenchanted? I have been using synth now for several months and have not experienced any problems. I have found it to be far more competent that either portmaster o= r portupgrade ever were. >One downside is that synth fails to install build dependencies, so I have = to >pkg install all of these separately, very annoying. I don't understand your problem. Why install something that is not needed? >I was bitten just yesterday trying to build cross-compiling tools for Haik= u >when make info was missing because texinfo was built but not installed. I don't cross-compile, so I have no knowledge of this phenomena. Have you tried to contact the author and voice your concerns? >But I was able to recover with pkg install after checking my repository. > >With portmaster, I need to specify ports by category/portname rather than >just portname, for example portmaster www/seamonkey > >On my other computer, with MSI Z77 MPOWER motherboard, synth just fumbles = and >crashes. > >Will both the old and revamped portmaster be maintained, and what will be = the >port names, since there can't be two ports both named portmaster? > >I used portupgrade before switching to portmaster. > >Tom --=20 Carmel
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