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Date:      Mon, 23 Mar 2009 17:50:19 -0600 (MDT)
From:      Warren Block <>
To:        Neal Hogan <>
Subject:   Re: xorg-server-1.5.3_7, /usr/ports/UPDATING, mouse
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On Mon, 23 Mar 2009, Neal Hogan wrote:

> Well, recently I deinstalled all of my third party apps . . . long story
> (some of which is documented on this list) . . . but the short story is that
> some were added via the ports tree and others via pkg_add. When it came time
> to portupdate, I was having problems and it was brought to my attention
> that, among other things, mixing ports and packages may lead to problems.
> Also, I didn't do the massive deinstall until after I had portupgraded all
> of my packages individually and the mouse/keyboard didn't work with X (it
> did at the console). Once this happened I felt compelled to wipe the slate.
> So, with no ports/packages installed and starting with a fresh ports tree, I
> began installing them one-by-one:
> 1) cd /usr/ports/path/port
> 2) make && make install && make clean
> I started with xorg. After it was installed, I tried to start X (startx) . .
> . no dice . . . no big deal. I created the basic xorg.conf (Xorg
> -configure), tried it (Xorg -config X started, but no mouse
> activity and ctrl+alt+backspace did not quit X. I had moused enable in
> rc.conf and, as I say above the mouse worked (i.e., it moved when asked) at
> the console. /usr/ports/UPDATING says that some mouse issues were cleared
> up:
> "20090124:
> 241   AFFECTS: users of x11-servers/xorg-server, sysutils/hal
> 242   AUTHOR:
> 243
> 244   sysutils/hal has been updated and should now properly detect
> 245   mice for use in Xorg.  Use of AllowEmptyInput should no longer
> 246   be needed for most users and moused should now work fine."
> But, as I say, I have no mouse under X.

Adding hal alone is not enough, you have to enable it both when you 
build xorg-server and in /etc/rc.conf.  I use moused also, and have no 
AllowEmptyInput or AutoAddDevices or mouse or keyboard sections in 

-Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA

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