From owner-freebsd-current Thu May 23 07:14:54 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id HAA14663 for current-outgoing; Thu, 23 May 1996 07:14:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA14658 for ; Thu, 23 May 1996 07:14:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id HAA00720; Thu, 23 May 1996 07:14:13 -0700 (PDT) To: Paul Richards cc: msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au (Michael Smith), FreeBSD-current@FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD current mailing list) Subject: Re: editors In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 23 May 1996 14:17:05 BST." <199605231317.OAA24616@cadair.elsevier.co.uk> Date: Thu, 23 May 1996 07:14:12 -0700 Message-ID: <718.832860852@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Bollocks. You've obviously been away from the coalface _much_ too long. > > What you on about? This was an allusion to the fact that you haven't been out in your back yard in Wales recently, Paul. Go outside and see what's happening! :-) No, I think he actually meant this as a metaphor (which I've generally heard used by british programmers, actually) - being "at the coalface" means to be working at a much lower level, usually as some peon just-out-of-university programmer who's struggling to pick away at a set of problems that are totally new and different and right in his face. As I've already said in another email, from my perspective I just want things that are _self documenting_ in the installation path so that you don't have to reach for a stack of books just to install the system. If you had vi and some sort of "helper" app that actually showed you the keymap and basic usage instructions in a side window somehow, I'd happily use it here. Jordan