Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2005 03:33:00 -0800 From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" <tedm@toybox.placo.com> To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=F8rgrav?= <des@des.no> Cc: Garance A Drosehn <gad@freebsd.org> Subject: RE: Why in the world you should have a vote: was RE: Please don't change Beastie to another crap logo suchas NetBSD!!! Message-ID: <LOBBIFDAGNMAMLGJJCKNEEGEFAAA.tedm@toybox.placo.com> In-Reply-To: <863bw2vxpk.fsf@xps.des.no>
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> -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Dag-Erling > Smørgrav > Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2005 3:12 AM > To: Ted Mittelstaedt > Cc: Robert Marella; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Garance A Drosehn > Subject: Re: Why in the world you should have a vote: was RE: Please > don't change Beastie to another crap logo suchas NetBSD!!! > > > "Ted Mittelstaedt" <tedm@toybox.placo.com> writes: > > With BSD, the copyrights on it are held by the University of Berkeley > > and by the FreeBSD Project. > > No, they aren't. RTFS. Just a couple of examples: > > des@xps ~% grep -r 'Copyright.*Dag-Erling' /usr/src | wc -l > 59 > des@xps ~% grep -r 'Copyright.*Poul.Henning' /usr/src | wc -l > 109 > des@xps ~% grep -r 'Copyright.*Matt.*Dillon' /usr/src | wc -l > 30 > des@xps ~% grep -r 'Copyright.*Network.*Associates' /usr/src | wc -l > 334 > > (about a third of the code in the latter category was written by yours > truly under contract) > OK, so I didn't go look at every little port and piece in the project. I was trying to dumb the explanation down for someone who was quite obviously totally clueless about the philosophy of the software he was using. It was not to denegrate any contribution that anyone has made. But this does point out that you people when you put your stuff into the distribution and you don't assign over the copyright to The FreeBSD Project, that you need to submit this to the documentation people so they can update http://www.freebsd.org/copyright/index.html I don't see why you are so proud of not doing this. Is it your intention to cause problems for companies that want to use FreeBSD in their products? This sort of thing is exactly what the chicken littles like Anthony are talking about. It isn't going to matter to some lawyer charged with vetting the code to make sure that using it in a company's project is OK, that your and the other's copyright is equivalent to the BSD one. He is going to see this and wonder why it wasn't disclosed in the docs where it should have been, and what else is being hidden. And in any case, if you want to get into this, the C compiler carries GPL without which it is impossible to build the OS, and as that copyright is fundamentally different than either the BSD copyrights, or the copyrights of yourself and the others listed, it is a much more serious issue and I don't understand why you didn't bring it up. Although, at least, it IS disclosed in the appropriate place on the website. Ted
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