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Date:      Wed, 15 Oct 2014 20:35:59 -0400
From:      Walter <fbsd@saveouraquifer.org>
To:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: minder
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In-Reply-To: <543F0C42.1060401@gmail.com>
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On 10/15/14, 8:07 PM, Rolf Nielsen wrote:
> On 2014-10-16 00:25, Walter wrote:
> > On 10/15/14, 4:27 PM, Rolf Nielsen wrote:
> >> On 2014-10-15 21:58, Walter wrote:
> >>> but it's hard to know how useful these are without trying them
> >>> all, and I'm hoping people here can guide me.  Ultimately, I'm
> >>> interested in secure, encrypted p2p operations starting with
> >>> basic messaging, which will run on Windows-something, Mac, and
> >>> Linux (BSD) OS's.
> >>
> >> And just as pear is a flavour of apple, BSD is really a flavour
> >> of Linux... Right?
> > I may run BSD on some servers, but most people run Linux with a
> > desktop.  And if it runs on Linux, it will likely run under BSD.
>
> > Or am I wrong on that?  Or that most people use Linux over BSD?
>
> > Walter
>
> That wasn't my point. My point was that the form "Linux (BSD)" is
> dangerously close to calling BSD a Linux distro, which it isn't.
I'll try to be clearer then: I know the BSD's are not Linux distributions.
I know FreeBSD is it's own OS.  But I also know FreeBSD has a Linux
compatibility layer, where it can run Linux programs.  Maybe not all
of them, but at least some.

Desktop Operating System Market Share:
http://www.netmarketshare.com/operating-system-market-share.aspx?qprid=10&qpcustomd=0
 Windows 7
<http://www.netmarketshare.com/report.aspx?qprid=11&qpaf=&qpcustom=Windows+7&qpcustomb=0>;
	52.71%
Market Share of Windows XP
<http://www.netmarketshare.com/report.aspx?qprid=11&qpaf=&qpcustom=Windows+XP&qpcustomb=0>; Windows
XP
<http://www.netmarketshare.com/report.aspx?qprid=11&qpaf=&qpcustom=Windows+XP&qpcustomb=0>;
	23.87%
Market Share of Windows 8.1
<http://www.netmarketshare.com/report.aspx?qprid=11&qpaf=&qpcustom=Windows+8.1&qpcustomb=0>; Windows
8.1
<http://www.netmarketshare.com/report.aspx?qprid=11&qpaf=&qpcustom=Windows+8.1&qpcustomb=0>;
	6.67%
Market Share of Windows 8
<http://www.netmarketshare.com/report.aspx?qprid=11&qpaf=&qpcustom=Windows+8&qpcustomb=0>; Windows
8
<http://www.netmarketshare.com/report.aspx?qprid=11&qpaf=&qpcustom=Windows+8&qpcustomb=0>;
	5.59%
Market Share of Mac OS X 10.9
<http://www.netmarketshare.com/report.aspx?qprid=11&qpaf=&qpcustom=Mac+OS+X+10.9&qpcustomb=0>; Mac
OS X 10.9
<http://www.netmarketshare.com/report.aspx?qprid=11&qpaf=&qpcustom=Mac+OS+X+10.9&qpcustomb=0>;
	4.05%
Market Share of Windows Vista
<http://www.netmarketshare.com/report.aspx?qprid=11&qpaf=&qpcustom=Windows+Vista&qpcustomb=0>; Windows
Vista
<http://www.netmarketshare.com/report.aspx?qprid=11&qpaf=&qpcustom=Windows+Vista&qpcustomb=0>;
	3.07%
Market Share of Linux
<http://www.netmarketshare.com/report.aspx?qprid=11&qpaf=&qpcustom=Linux&qpcustomb=0>; Linux
<http://www.netmarketshare.com/report.aspx?qprid=11&qpaf=&qpcustom=Linux&qpcustomb=0>;
	1.64%
Market Share of Mac OS X 10.6
<http://www.netmarketshare.com/report.aspx?qprid=11&qpaf=&qpcustom=Mac+OS+X+10.6&qpcustomb=0>; Mac
OS X 10.6
<http://www.netmarketshare.com/report.aspx?qprid=11&qpaf=&qpcustom=Mac+OS+X+10.6&qpcustomb=0>;
	0.74%
Market Share of Mac OS X 10.8
<http://www.netmarketshare.com/report.aspx?qprid=11&qpaf=&qpcustom=Mac+OS+X+10.8&qpcustomb=0>; Mac
OS X 10.8
<http://www.netmarketshare.com/report.aspx?qprid=11&qpaf=&qpcustom=Mac+OS+X+10.8&qpcustomb=0>;
	0.60%
Market Share of Mac OS X 10.7
<http://www.netmarketshare.com/report.aspx?qprid=11&qpaf=&qpcustom=Mac+OS+X+10.7&qpcustomb=0>; Mac
OS X 10.7
<http://www.netmarketshare.com/report.aspx?qprid=11&qpaf=&qpcustom=Mac+OS+X+10.7&qpcustomb=0>;
	0.57%
Market Share of Mac OS X 10.1
<http://www.netmarketshare.com/report.aspx?qprid=11&qpaf=&qpcustom=Mac+OS+X+10.1&qpcustomb=0>; Mac
OS X 10.1
<http://www.netmarketshare.com/report.aspx?qprid=11&qpaf=&qpcustom=Mac+OS+X+10.1&qpcustomb=0>;
	0.25%
Market Share of Mac OS X 10.5
<http://www.netmarketshare.com/report.aspx?qprid=11&qpaf=&qpcustom=Mac+OS+X+10.5&qpcustomb=0>; Mac
OS X 10.5
<http://www.netmarketshare.com/report.aspx?qprid=11&qpaf=&qpcustom=Mac+OS+X+10.5&qpcustomb=0>;
	0.14%
Market Share of Windows NT
<http://www.netmarketshare.com/report.aspx?qprid=11&qpaf=&qpcustom=Windows+NT&qpcustomb=0>; Windows
NT
<http://www.netmarketshare.com/report.aspx?qprid=11&qpaf=&qpcustom=Windows+NT&qpcustomb=0>;
	0.05%
Market Share of Mac OS X 10.4
<http://www.netmarketshare.com/report.aspx?qprid=11&qpaf=&qpcustom=Mac+OS+X+10.4&qpcustomb=0>; Mac
OS X 10.4
<http://www.netmarketshare.com/report.aspx?qprid=11&qpaf=&qpcustom=Mac+OS+X+10.4&qpcustomb=0>;
	0.04%
Market Share of Windows 2000
<http://www.netmarketshare.com/report.aspx?qprid=11&qpaf=&qpcustom=Windows+2000&qpcustomb=0>; Windows
2000
<http://www.netmarketshare.com/report.aspx?qprid=11&qpaf=&qpcustom=Windows+2000&qpcustomb=0>;
	0.02%
Market Share of Mac OS X (no version reported)
<http://www.netmarketshare.com/report.aspx?qprid=11&qpaf=&qpcustom=Mac+OS+X+%28no+version+reported%29&qpcustomb=0>; Mac
OS X (no version reported)
<http://www.netmarketshare.com/report.aspx?qprid=11&qpaf=&qpcustom=Mac+OS+X+%28no+version+reported%29&qpcustomb=0>;
	0.01%
Market Share of Win64
<http://www.netmarketshare.com/report.aspx?qprid=11&qpaf=&qpcustom=Win64&qpcustomb=0>; Win64
<http://www.netmarketshare.com/report.aspx?qprid=11&qpaf=&qpcustom=Win64&qpcustomb=0>;
	0.00%
Market Share of Windows 98
<http://www.netmarketshare.com/report.aspx?qprid=11&qpaf=&qpcustom=Windows+98&qpcustomb=0>; Windows
98
<http://www.netmarketshare.com/report.aspx?qprid=11&qpaf=&qpcustom=Windows+98&qpcustomb=0>;



Linux has 1.64% market share, but no flavor of BSD makes the list.
I don't think saying Linux is more popular should be a major point of
contention.

So, my thinking is that if a family of an application runs on Windows,
Mac, and Linux, it would be popular enough not to die out, and
likely to get all the bugs ironed out.  AND, if it runs on Linux, FreeBSD
will likely run it too; that's what I meant by my poorly written words
"Linux (BSD)."

So, can someone help me with a URL to find Minder documentation, and
can I elicit experiences with BitMessage, RetroShare, OpenDC, and the like.
I'll be starting with FreeBSD and Mac but intend to add Windows and would
like to include Linux also.  Thanks.





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