From owner-freebsd-chat Fri Sep 28 1:45: 2 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from falcon.mail.pas.earthlink.net (falcon.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D26FA37B401 for ; Fri, 28 Sep 2001 01:44:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mindspring.com (dialup-209.245.138.226.Dial1.SanJose1.Level3.net [209.245.138.226]) by falcon.mail.pas.earthlink.net (8.11.5/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f8S8if110557; Fri, 28 Sep 2001 01:44:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3BB438A5.2D8C18C8@mindspring.com> Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 01:45:25 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Reply-To: tlambert2@mindspring.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-CCK-MCD {Sony} (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Carl Schmidt Cc: Rahul Siddharthan , chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Another article, from the "other side" References: <3BAFD532.6ED7A320@duth.gr> <4.3.2.7.2.20010926015428.01814630@threespace.com> <20010926125046.C1370@lpt.ens.fr> <20010926070519.A30531@blackhelicopters.org> <20010926132021.E1370@lpt.ens.fr> <20010926072915.A30655@blackhelicopters.org> <4.3.2.7.2.20010927003714.01819658@threespace.com> <200109271345.f8RDjn116287@dungeon.home> <4.3.2.7.2.20010927100849.017f9938@threespace.com> <20010927171312.C56631@lpt.ens.fr> <20010927132438.A42742@slackerbsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Carl Schmidt wrote: > Oi. We most certainly do not lead the world in education. I'll agree with that... > We don't pay teachers enough and when it comes time for teachers > to take a stand they're considered ungrateful people. The vast majority of educational funding is sidetracked into administration, rather than going to the front line teachers; but it is considered a natural career advancement path for teachers to move into roles where a higher and higher percentage of their time is spent on administration. Note that both my grandmothers were teachers, two of my aunts, and at least one of my cousins. I have been lucky enough to have a few truly excellent teachers, but for the most part, I know very few who are as good at what they do for a living as I am at what I do for a living. I also think that education has gone down hill since there is no longer any credible threat of punishment for misbehaviour in school (your own case of a Parochial school being more of an exception). > There are a lot of illiterate people in this country and there > are a lot of people that can't do simple maths [ ... ] Literacy rates: overall Male Female U.S. 97% 97% 97% Afghanistan 31.5% 47.2% 15% U.K. 99% NC NC (not collected) Ireland 98% NC NC India 52% 65.5% 37.7% France 99% 99% 99% Germany 99% NC NC ...of course, an ability to read doesn't mean that one chooses to do so... --Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message