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Date:      Wed, 20 Dec 2017 08:08:31 -0800
From:      "Chris H" <portmaster@BSDforge.com>
To:        "Johannes Lundberg" <johalun0@gmail.com>
Cc:        <freebsd-ports@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Vote: making wayland=on default
Message-ID:  <0bc4b9b1d25db922415413bfa84375d7@udns.ultimatedns.net>
In-Reply-To: <CAECmPwtgtxJ-Nv6_LWoZC14UQ7TRZR%2B6Bg=1TK5=FuKz78hFNQ@mail.gmail.com>

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On Wed, 20 Dec 2017 09:20:20 +0000 "Johannes Lundberg" <johalun0@gmail=2Ecom>=
 said

> Hi
>=20
> I want to suggest that we enable wayland by default=2E In current state
> having some parts of wayland in ports is basically useless the
> end-users themselves re-build gtk30 and mesa-libs with wayland
> enabled=2E
>=20
> libwayland-egl=2Eso from mesa-libs and the extra libraries and headers
> from gtk30 adds like a few KB, a drop in the ocean compared to xorg
> packages=2E (might be something more that I missed)
>=20
> Personally I see no reason not to make it default on, even with
> flavors coming up=2E For any Desktop user (as well as embedded devices
> like IVI-systems and whatnot), Wayland is the future=2E There's no
> escaping that=2E
>=20
> Wayland has been quite usable on FreeBSD for over a year now but
> access to it is limited due to the extra efforts required to use it=2E
>=20
> If we are to compare with the other guys, several Linux distros are
> already switching to wayland-based compositors as default window
> server=2E
>=20
> What do you think?
IMHO it's (still) too early=2E Too much other X(org) related work
still being completed=2E In fact, I just built a new dev box to
track 12 (CURRENT), and this was the first time I was not required
to pre generate a config file for Xorg=2E I was only required to
inform /usr/local/etc/X11/xorg=2Econf=2Ed/nvidia-driver=2Econf that
the driver was "nvidia", not "nv"=2E Everything work(s|ed) famously=2E
A real treat=2E I'm also a bit concerned about the progress (or lack
there of) on network transparency=2E
I (personally) could conceive it as a KERNEL OPTION, but would not
want to see it in the Default kernel=2E

Well, those are *my* thoughts=2E Because you asked=2E :-)

--Chris

>=20
>=20
> /Johannes





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