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Date:      Thu, 27 Jun 2019 09:10:12 +0200
From:      Ralf Mardorf <ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com>
To:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Cc:        Polytropon <freebsd@edvax.de>
Subject:   Re: I've got a major question...
Message-ID:  <20190627091012.44fc65a7@archlinux>
In-Reply-To: <20190627081518.9dc6f3c2.freebsd@edvax.de>
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On Thu, 27 Jun 2019 08:15:18 +0200, Polytropon wrote:
>I know, this is a very individual point of view and experience, but
>as you can see: It _is_ possible, and it starts with the right
>decision. :-)

Hi,

it makes a big difference, if somebody needs to ask for recommendations
or not. It makes a difference, if somebody is assuming "probably
Canonical/Ubuntu would be a better fit than FreeBSD" or knows if it
does or does not.

Something to consider regarding Ubuntu support:

"Universe

The universe component is a snapshot of the free, open-source, and
Linux world. It houses almost every piece of open-source software, all
built from a range of public sources. Canonical does not provide a
guarantee of regular security updates for software in the universe
component, but will provide these where they are made available by the
community. Users should understand the risk inherent in using these
packages. Popular or well supported pieces of software will move from
universe into main if they are backed by maintainers willing to meet
the standards set by the Ubuntu team." -
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories#Universe

This is not an issue that affects just one application provided by
Ubuntu: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pcmanfm/+bug/1782984
It's an issue that affects all distros and tons of applications.
FWIW Ubuntu 16.04 LTS isn't affect, but this old LTS still provides
packages that are security risks, at least libwebkitgtk-1.0-0 comes to
my mind.

I know what I'm talking about:

[root@archlinux moonstudio]# lsb_release -a
LSB Version:	1.4
Distributor ID:	Arch
Description:	Arch Linux
Release:	rolling
Codename:	n/a
[root@archlinux moonstudio]# systemd-nspawn -q lsb_release -a
LSB Version:	core-9.20160110ubuntu0.2-amd64:core-9.20160110ubuntu0.2-noarch:security-9.20160110ubuntu0.2-amd64:security-9.20160110ubuntu0.2-noarch
Distributor ID:	Ubuntu
Description:	Ubuntu 16.04.6 LTS
Release:	16.04
Codename:	xenial

There's no paper shop without magazines promoting Linux container
approaches as the ultimate solution for everything. Take, for example,
Ubuntu's snap thingy. Due to the container approach some software might
be unable to provide full functionality, since access to software
outside the container could be tricky, even impossible.

I'm absolutely pro Linux, FreeBSD and anything FLOSS for desktop
computers, but to get work done, I'm using a proprietary product
named after a fruit, too and I at least need to run wine-staging on
Linux, too. Wine isn't without pitfalls.

Assuming a company gets work done on proprietary operating systems,
then ensure that migrating to FreeBSD or a Linux distro does provide
what is needed and that the software worked in the past, at the moment
and doesn't have dependencies against phase-out model libraries.

Choosing a Linux distro is not easy to do and depends much on the
target.

Regards,
Ralf




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