From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 30 17:23:04 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE3B51065679 for ; Sun, 30 Aug 2009 17:23:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from robert@erje.net) Received: from smtp-vbr1.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr1.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 612278FC12 for ; Sun, 30 Aug 2009 17:23:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from xykert.erje.net (erje.net [80.126.62.176]) by smtp-vbr1.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n7UH66Hj029240 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Sun, 30 Aug 2009 19:06:06 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from robert@erje.net) Received: from ismet.erje.net (ismet.erje.net [IPv6:2001:888:1f33::8e45:5e]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by xykert.erje.net (PostFix 2.6.5) with ESMTPS id 58656AF5AD for ; Sun, 30 Aug 2009 19:02:05 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from robert@localhost) by ismet.erje.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n7UH25m4037466 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Sun, 30 Aug 2009 19:02:05 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from robert@erje.net) X-Authentication-Warning: ismet.erje.net: robert set sender to robert@erje.net using -f Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2009 19:02:05 +0200 From: Robert Joosten To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090830170204.GC3446@ismet.erje.net> References: <4A99C502.4060102@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4A99C502.4060102@FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-erje-MailScanner-Information: support@erje.net X-erje-MailScanner-ID: 58656AF5AD.75033 X-erje-MailScanner: Ok found to be clean X-Spam-Status: No X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Subject: Re: Perennial suggestion to split freebsd-stable into version-specific lists X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2009 17:23:04 -0000 Hi, > Thus, my suggestion. Split what is currently freebsd-stable into one > list per branch. We could also THINK about whether we want more than 1 stable branch, which is the true case now. Either we relese too often or older releases have a far to long lifecycle before reching EOL. Recalling from memory I more than once read posting by core freebsd dev's stating they dislike keeping track of so many releases. That started with 5. What we really need to THINK about is getting more milestones into a release. Now 5 marked $SMP. 6 was a $better 5. 7 marked $this. 8 should cut the corners on $that. Why not having more milestones into our current release before the next one becomes stable. Then this problem will solve in near future. What's wrong with having releng_8_14 ? I recall 2.2.11 :-) I'm not opposed more -stable mailinglists perse, but this to me seems we are just fighting symptons. Cheers, Robert