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Date:      Tue, 04 Jul 2006 21:38:18 +0300
From:      jari.aalto@cante.net (Jari Aalto+mail.linux)
To:        Ceri Davies <ceri@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        "exim4-daemon-heavy: Use /bin/nologin instead of /bin/false in /etc/passwd" <366546-maintonly@bugs.debian.org>, "pidentd: \[security\] use /bin/nologin instead of /bin/false in /etc/passwd" <366545-maintonly@bugs.debian.org>, "login: please move nologin under /bin directory" <374525@bugs.debian.org>, mstone@debian.org, freebsd-arch@freebsd.org, "openssh-server: \[security\] use /bin/nologin instead of /bin/false" <366541-maintonly@bugs.debian.org>, anibal@debian.org
Subject:   Re: Bug#366546: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender
Message-ID:  <E1Fxpms-0003TT-T4@cante>
References:  <20060509153807.16297.97467.reportbug@cante> <E1FsDxt-0001DV-Nv@cante> <E1FsQpg-0002x9-8H@cante> <20060620050937.GB18750@djedefre.onera>

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| > > | I think that this suggestion should go to upstream as well. Having
| > > | nologin in /bin does not make sense only for Debian, of course.
| > > | 
| 
| FreeBSD-arch AT FreeBSD.org is better for "move x to y" type discussions.
| 
| > Tomasz (shadow upstream) mentioned me that nologin lies in /sbin in
| > OpenBSD so that he's tempted to default installing it there.
| > 
| > As already mentioned elsewhere, I have no strong opinion on this for
| > what to do in Debian and I'm ready to listen to suggestions and
| > various rationales....
| 
| We (FreeBSD) have only recently moved it from /sbin to /usr/sbin; see
| http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=freebsd-current&m=107755834602236&w=2
| for the discussion we had, if it's of any use.

Thanks for the URL.

About the /sbin comment 1: "Bloating of the root filesystem".
I don't see that to be problem here. I think it would be
better to keep things logically separate and resserver /usr
for other things.

About comment 3: There is no reason for nologin(8) to be in
/sbin, since it isn't needed in single-user mode", this has
weight.

However nologin is a system utility it would be better kept
directly under root directory, if /sbin is not ideal, then
it should go to /bin -- to same place as "login".

Jari




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