From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Aug 26 02:09:15 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4D28109D918 for ; Sun, 26 Aug 2018 02:09:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aimass@yabarana.com) Received: from mail-vk0-x242.google.com (mail-vk0-x242.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c05::242]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 689948B221 for ; Sun, 26 Aug 2018 02:09:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aimass@yabarana.com) Received: by mail-vk0-x242.google.com with SMTP id w187-v6so6044388vkw.0 for ; Sat, 25 Aug 2018 19:09:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yabarana-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=l1EYqT5TdoRpnMHOWod2JPKfMR03cgtBNfyqD/vPj9s=; b=k7a4OeS1M+tBWGa38a24dwjzp3W3739aRQI3ZIRh0Ij6isYm/FTdT0SF5pBK9MOryN aFxIspIPRY8dgL0geZn0Yqd3alCThUO2USC37/rXnJ1y+RafwuEb6ygW0tZW3nfGhuxD JqRnFGZ9absHWwWHIC6X8maLrCRy+fQZELiDHzDAfbLgTf4ANhIEaBVgHkU/S2wPuTmx 5dQjYFMPxKHanX4Cf5PusdcHZ2qpvnHfsJBqAobzhbWQL+SgiGShwNsoFpz9W8L8vl2e AOBtd2g500mzeEYTBdQdLUkuCkhS0nvnuRGpMlZiT23asJ6uDndzF79ifcKyiBfj335J PvEw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=l1EYqT5TdoRpnMHOWod2JPKfMR03cgtBNfyqD/vPj9s=; b=cQgEmJUkshcjpbZ699zLlDyzc2ykm4rdGE81002US7lXeXFjOMMLUH6DnVIAc0lR15 kxC4Hd6nf+K4U70mNrc4wacXhTChtyNsKscGbunZlqcRKlrx7ksakkOFP7gulfHTv2D0 amaRTvYqWnIE202ZcLVOY0JPxsU9FbpisjfbQwsxuS9m6VpymAQSNHRc0jhSipMzac1k Qv0XH3IJ25ZY+MMpmqm8+Owc2wWSOVYKxJKh1SbaaB/WRMcGqbdi8mjM8pi454fszx8M MiaDd02Tx2GL4uIHI9stCvN0mQN+bfS52zi2MpLIAq4gLPr98p1TgsNqf2/gL3+doEhi uPcw== X-Gm-Message-State: APzg51D6tgsLz/D0IUix8XeImMJoTCpHlWH84sVtsG5vhyHHHAWjmufZ 39saWRUxHV2qaxnH4g77st275VxoKPnQNgK3I9pJXw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ANB0Vda1ABQjKHDeGaH8AHGpxKu41NFY2H3P2PMMvO3XH40em8ugDyQXY7qFR9uPKA4tVKCwAcCyxY3OH4ap0LWDd4Q= X-Received: by 2002:a1f:aa8a:: with SMTP id t132-v6mr4915166vke.80.1535249353944; Sat, 25 Aug 2018 19:09:13 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <6B17F10B-F3AE-45C5-8011-EBE52462230E@glasgow.ac.uk> <702BA4E1-A1D1-4120-866D-755CB2C76143@glasgow.ac.uk> <5B816B3E.6070903@gmail.com> <20180825170559.GA79123@neutralgood.org> <5B81D78E.3000100@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <5B81D78E.3000100@gmail.com> From: Alejandro Imass Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2018 22:09:03 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Jails and networks To: Ernie Luzar Cc: FreeBSD Questions , "Kevin P. Neal" , Norman Gray Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.27 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2018 02:09:15 -0000 On Sat, Aug 25, 2018 at 6:26 PM Ernie Luzar wrote: > Kevin P. Neal wrote: > > On Sat, Aug 25, 2018 at 10:44:14AM -0400, Ernie Luzar wrote: > >> Alejandro Imass wrote: > >>> On Fri, Aug 24, 2018 at 11:54 AM, Norman Gray < > norman.gray@glasgow.ac.uk> wrote: > >>>> Alejandro, hello. > >>>> > >>>> Thanks for your further comments. > >>>> > >>> [...] > >>> > >>>>> There's been some > >>>>> friction over the years and I sided with Dirk and continue to use > >>>>> ezjail. > >>>> That's also very useful to know. As with all of these things, it'd = be > >>>> interesting to know more about the grounds and nature of the split, > but > >>>> that's not always easy to find. > >>>> [...] > > And, as I recall, there was some arguing on his/their part so I'm not > sure > > that the "right away" part is accurate. > > > > This is open source software being talked about not printed matter, so > the idea of plagiarism does not apply in this case at all. The correct way to do Open Source is to contribute to existing projects. You only fork, if the author is unwilling to take patches or if completely abandoned by the original author or maintainers. This metallity of re-inventing the wheel is typical of the Java ecosystem and I think it sucks. It=E2=80=99s much better to patch and contribute to existing project= s. 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micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="gZJlmKY0IIRID2piNUIehCIEPNECWl7jD" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2018 12:01:19 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --gZJlmKY0IIRID2piNUIehCIEPNECWl7jD Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="gQXOvVboimwMen4EQlgeW5PYoJ3gH3syz"; protected-headers="v1" From: nusenu To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: Subject: Re: finding the port for "kernel: Limiting open port RST response from x to y packets/sec" References: In-Reply-To: --gQXOvVboimwMen4EQlgeW5PYoJ3gH3syz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable nusenu: > Hi, >=20 > I occasionally get multiple entries of: >=20 > kernel: Limiting open port RST response from xxxx to yyy packets/sec an additional question related to this: Is this something you would commonly see on a publicly facing server and is nothing to worry about or does this warrant some additional diggin= g? thanks, nusenu --gQXOvVboimwMen4EQlgeW5PYoJ3gH3syz-- --gZJlmKY0IIRID2piNUIehCIEPNECWl7jD Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; 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Sun, 26 Aug 2018 14:47:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lebarondemerde@privacychain.ch) Received: from forward106o.mail.yandex.net (forward106o.mail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:1a2d::609]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "forwards.mail.yandex.net", Issuer "Yandex CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2C9208322E for ; Sun, 26 Aug 2018 14:47:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lebarondemerde@privacychain.ch) Received: from mxback8g.mail.yandex.net (mxback8g.mail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:1472:2741:0:8b7:169]) by forward106o.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 3E886785704 for ; Sun, 26 Aug 2018 17:47:29 +0300 (MSK) Received: from smtp3o.mail.yandex.net (smtp3o.mail.yandex.net [2a02:6b8:0:1a2d::27]) by mxback8g.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTP id tfuwak5mPL-lTsCA2qY; Sun, 26 Aug 2018 17:47:29 +0300 Received: by smtp3o.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTPSA id mQOgQQuecn-lQsmsbFm; Sun, 26 Aug 2018 17:47:27 +0300 (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client certificate not present) Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2018 11:47:22 -0300 From: Alex To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: "synth" in a jail Message-ID: <20180826144722.ctqidmiohxu5zesm@privacychain.ch> References: <20180825203109.mfuewnu2l7sq6dvu@privacychain.ch> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: NeoMutt/20180716 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2018 14:47:42 -0000 On Sun, Aug 26, 2018 at 01:16:08PM +0000, Carmel NY wrote: > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org On Behalf Of Alex > > Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2018 4:31 PM > > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > Subject: Re: "synth" in a jail > > > > On Sat, Aug 25, 2018 at 07:40:59PM +0000, Carmel NY wrote: > > > I have a dumb question, but is it possible or advisable to run "synth" > > > in a jail to update the application(s) installed in the jail? > > > > This is not necessary because Synth build ports in a chroot, and so a clean > > environment, but if you do insist its GitHub page have some pointers to do > > that: > > > > https://github.com/jrmarino/synth > > > > Cheers! > > I think you are confused regarding my question. I wanted to know if it was advisable to use "synth" to update applications that are located in a "jail." Obviously, "synth" would have to be run from the jail also. Yeah, I misunderstood your question! Synth is a repository builder, and so it is designed exactly for that. However it is a "simplified" version of Poudriere, and while using Synth all machines using its repository will share packages with the same personalizations. I mean it is not possible to use Synth in the same way of Poudriere, to build ports for different machines using different OPTIONS, FreeBSD versions, etc. this is the only downside. Cheers! > > -- > Carmel > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Best Regards. LBdM. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Aug 26 15:01:34 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17B771078AF1 for ; Sun, 26 Aug 2018 15:01:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ixbug@riseup.net) Received: from mx1.riseup.net (mx1.riseup.net [198.252.153.129]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.riseup.net", Issuer "COMODO RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B105783886 for ; Sun, 26 Aug 2018 15:01:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ixbug@riseup.net) Received: from cotinga.riseup.net (cotinga-pn.riseup.net [10.0.1.164]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.riseup.net", Issuer "COMODO RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 903D41A01DA for ; Sun, 26 Aug 2018 08:01:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=riseup.net; s=squak; t=1535295691; bh=Xc3kT1kJ0+qgQi8aL46ddubYcRys07RRi0wOF7LoXtI=; h=From:Subject:To:Date:From; b=QwuGeQSHkqpgv2LcphxHmm//5E3i/4lHZYaiu26rv0x6ELq7BHAjulW9fkHtiwq8A gT5mWpQ8jkHCGXwu3Aqar5giJF7poLhZANQfRJA6hQNxrNPS1+NtCo/tz5jz55eJnR fexSXAbtYNabBrtYWmltNIuGxv9fJXFD5kob3JQM= X-Riseup-User-ID: 179E157C4344F1ADB08F9B34B2ABD598BCBB1429B611D49D03A8A3D86ADE72E9 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cotinga.riseup.net with ESMTPSA id A94F664B15 for ; Sun, 26 Aug 2018 08:01:30 -0700 (PDT) From: ixbug@riseup.net Subject: disk or cable error? (CAM status: ATA Status Error) To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2018 15:01:00 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2018 15:01:34 -0000 Hello, since 3 days I get these errors on my FreeBSD 11.2 server which has two (WDC WD1005FBYZ-01YCBB2) disks (ZFS mirror): (ada1:ahcich1:0:0:0): WRITE_FPDMA_QUEUED. ACB: 61 08 90 a4 aa 40 1d 00 00 00 00 00 (ada1:ahcich1:0:0:0): CAM status: ATA Status Error (ada1:ahcich1:0:0:0): ATA status: 41 (DRDY ERR), error: 10 (IDNF ) (ada1:ahcich1:0:0:0): RES: 41 10 90 a4 aa 00 1d 00 00 00 00 (ada1:ahcich1:0:0:0): Retrying command (ada0:ahcich0:0:0:0): WRITE_FPDMA_QUEUED. ACB: 61 60 38 7e 06 40 2e 00 00 00 00 00 (ada0:ahcich0:0:0:0): CAM status: ATA Status Error (ada0:ahcich0:0:0:0): ATA status: 41 (DRDY ERR), error: 10 (IDNF ) (ada0:ahcich0:0:0:0): RES: 41 10 38 7e 06 00 2e 00 00 00 00 (ada0:ahcich0:0:0:0): Retrying command note that both affect both disks (ada0 + ada1). frequency: about 30 times per day. zpool status is fine. since last night also smartctl complains: smartctl -a /dev/ada0 (ada1 followed 6 hours later with the same output) output: " Error 1 occurred When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was in an unknown state. After command completion occurred, registers were: ER ST SC SN CL CH DH -- -- -- -- -- -- -- 04 51 00 00 00 00 00 Error: ABRT Commands leading to the command that caused the error were: CR FR SC SN CL CH DH DC Powered_Up_Time Command/Feature_Name -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- ---------------- -------------------- " Do any of these errors provide hints as to whether this is a disk error affecting both at the same time or broken cable? (both disks are connected to the mainboard via the same cable) thanks in advance, ixbug From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Aug 26 16:35:01 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0EB6107AC79 for ; Sun, 26 Aug 2018 16:35:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from soth.netfence.it (net-2-44-121-52.cust.vodafonedsl.it [2.44.121.52]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mailserver.netfence.it", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 26EAA8609C for ; Sun, 26 Aug 2018 16:35:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from alamar.ventu (alamar.local.netfence.it [10.1.2.18]) (authenticated bits=0) by soth.netfence.it (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id w7QGYhUr049418 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 26 Aug 2018 18:34:50 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) X-Authentication-Warning: soth.netfence.it: Host alamar.local.netfence.it [10.1.2.18] claimed to be alamar.ventu From: Andrea Venturoli To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: named and ntpd start order in rc.d Message-ID: Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2018 18:34:43 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2018 16:35:01 -0000 Hello. I'm in the same situation described in this bug: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=129146 ntpd starts when named is not yet running, fails to resolve its peers and never works again until I restart it manually. That bug (of the 7.0 era) was closed as fixed, since /etc/rc.d/ntpd requires ntpdate, which in turn required named. However, the latest statement is not true anymore, today (probably due to the fact that named is no longer in base). I guess I'm not the only one who has this problem and I wonder how others are solving this issue. Also, should I add a comment to that bug or open a new one? bye & Thanks av. 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Message-ID: Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2018 10:09:29 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.13; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.9.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <06cc41dc-1d05-c457-accf-ec5290dad23f@networktest.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2018 17:09:37 -0000 On 8/16/18 7:08 PM, David Newman wrote: > On 8/16/18 2:00 AM, Koichiro IWAO wrote: >> Regarding clipboard issue, add this to your SessionVariables section in >> sesman.ini. >> >>> CHANSRV_LOG_LEVEL=LOG_LEVEL_DEBUG > > Done. > > [Chansrv] > ; drive redirection, defaults to xrdp_client if not set > FuseMountName=thinclient_drives > > [SessionVariables] > PULSE_SCRIPT=/usr/local/etc/xrdp/pulse/default.pa > CHANSRV_LOG_LEVEL=LOG_LEVEL_DEBUG > > >> >> Then xrdp will produce more debug logs. See >> `~/.local/share/xrdp/xrdp-chansrv.*.log` > This was no ~/.local/share/xrdp directory after restarting the xrdp and > xrdp-sesman services. I manually created the directory and touched the > xrdp-chansrv.0.log file (owned by the user, mod 0644) but do not see any > entries going into that file. Checking back on this, I don't have any debug info on the xrdp clipboard issue as described above. The lack of clipboard capability is a big problem when troubleshooting. If freebsd-questions is not the correct forum to report this issue, where else to report this? Many thanks! dn From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Aug 26 17:31:21 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD420107C687 for ; Sun, 26 Aug 2018 17:31:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-wr1-x430.google.com (mail-wr1-x430.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::430]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3CC2D89114 for ; Sun, 26 Aug 2018 17:31:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: by mail-wr1-x430.google.com with SMTP id j26-v6so11521604wre.2 for ; Sun, 26 Aug 2018 10:31:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to :references:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=/1nRfrD5Cj6rT9iuUiMRdy0/0EW40YUdzXgbELbj4LA=; b=qylYbaO28UCYx2Y+iDcuIZztVt1RjsQLFjvMhd1r3UABb9yHTY/ZvTEAZXhJahCyua otgFBI6z3Z6ub1jPN+zYlCr0CrWLuTw8B1foydFt3sLeEBY7C/xu1J+UqBSEc3oOF5Ev 1svWUfCON+j0MIveKyIJV44A9aONqHvtJl3FSuFcpTFEcUNpJ8XYtYZBLTwe5Acpnx6/ zrVZB+2sU739dfN1jRlfrQMKu9OLe5MGZaW6bobOeP/sCDqQJeGhWXHfSrHmLkzgPdvm 1M0AcOT8lwpiEguQ+WwTWI9uev0b3YLG7TjHIe3a0MrdWtzu9XUqi4GfLqkWBYdzN4fA z8MA== X-Gm-Message-State: APzg51CRNIWRLeoc+1xMDMLJj6ociOQkGU78TvjhqybQYktFzNCjZN0x ReTEnlcJcGCnClaHOilhBD1dAuzZ338= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ANB0VdbPzo/fa1nYV529WKuLnBnk/wnBXsX688M3SoP/HDNbQDnI1JvKh6OLonn/rU8y1M8yP0nJEw== X-Received: by 2002:adf:b112:: with SMTP id l18-v6mr6628524wra.101.1535304679970; Sun, 26 Aug 2018 10:31:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com ([90.205.16.64]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id n17-v6sm6031026wmc.13.2018.08.26.10.31.18 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Sun, 26 Aug 2018 10:31:19 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2018 18:31:17 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: named and ntpd start order in rc.d Message-ID: <20180826183117.5bba87af@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.16.0 (GTK+ 2.24.32; amd64-portbld-freebsd11.1) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2018 17:31:22 -0000 On Sun, 26 Aug 2018 18:34:43 +0200 Andrea Venturoli wrote: > Hello. > > I'm in the same situation described in this bug: > https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=129146 > > ntpd starts when named is not yet running, fails to resolve its peers > and never works again until I restart it manually. > > That bug (of the 7.0 era) was closed as fixed, since /etc/rc.d/ntpd > requires ntpdate, which in turn required named. > However, the latest statement is not true anymore, today (probably > due to the fact that named is no longer in base). What's in base looks OK rcorder /etc/rc.d/* |egrep 'ntp|unbou|NET' /etc/rc.d/local_unbound /etc/rc.d/NETWORKING /etc/rc.d/ntpdate /etc/rc.d/ntpd local_unbound starts before NETWORKING and ntpdate requires NETWORKING check where bind fits in when you run rcorder /etc/rc.d/* /usr/local/etc/rc.d/* If it's out of correct order I'd suggest opening a new bug report against the bind port. If it's already correct try enabling netwait in rc.conf. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Aug 26 18:19:43 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCA04107D979 for ; Sun, 26 Aug 2018 18:19:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Norman.Gray@glasgow.ac.uk) Received: from plockton.cent.gla.ac.uk (plockton.cent.gla.ac.uk [130.209.16.75]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 722228A768 for ; Sun, 26 Aug 2018 18:19:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Norman.Gray@glasgow.ac.uk) Received: from cas07.campus.gla.ac.uk ([130.209.14.164]) by plockton.cent.gla.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1ftzdO-000144-G7; Sun, 26 Aug 2018 19:19:34 +0100 Received: from [10.130.248.80] (130.209.203.66) by cas07.campus.gla.ac.uk (130.209.14.164) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1395.4; Sun, 26 Aug 2018 19:19:33 +0100 From: Norman Gray To: Dave Cottlehuber CC: Subject: Re: Jails and networks Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2018 19:19:33 +0100 X-Mailer: MailMate (1.11.3r5509) Message-ID: <82BDCB53-FBEF-431B-B43F-099E7CC4C4F2@glasgow.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: <1535210472.40142.1485918024.52274C37@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <6B17F10B-F3AE-45C5-8011-EBE52462230E@glasgow.ac.uk> <1535210472.40142.1485918024.52274C37@webmail.messagingengine.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-Originating-IP: [130.209.203.66] X-ClientProxiedBy: CAS08.campus.gla.ac.uk (130.209.14.165) To cas07.campus.gla.ac.uk (130.209.14.164) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2018 18:19:43 -0000 Dave and other spectators, hello. On 25 Aug 2018, at 16:21, Dave Cottlehuber wrote: > Your jail needs to have some way to send & receive traffic via the > host to the internet. Just adding a 192.168.0.0 address to the > external > igb0 interface will only work if the adjacent router allows that, and > it almost certainly won't by default. > > This means you need either NAT or routing on your system to take > care of this for you. *sigh* this was the problem. The host is on a 172.16.0.0/12 private network (which routes to the internet), the jails were on 192.168.0.0/16, and there was no routing between them. I added (the commented equivalent of) ext_if="igb0" jail_if="lo1" jail_net = $jail_if:network internet = $ext_if:network scrub in all nat pass on $ext_if from $jail_net to any -> $internet pass out pass in to /etc/pf.conf, and I can now happily route from the jail to the World Wide Web of Wonderfulness. ---- This is of course fairly obvious in retrospect. In production, these jails will have to talk only to the host (they'll be Ceph nodes), but of course when experimenting, and when setting things up, they'll have to be able to see further afield. I had the endpoint (too) firmly in mind when I started on the sub-problem of learning about jails, so I never reexamined the slightly unusual network environment I had initially set up for myself. Moral: when you cut down the problem to make it easier to understand, make sure the sub-problem is actually simpler. Step further back. In my original list post, I even said, apropos one of the most useful resources I found, 'Now, I don't think I need pf in my situation, so I want to skip that part of the instructions.' Did I mention: *sigh*? Moral: when you skip part of the instructions, be _really_ clear why they were there in the first place. I have a clearer idea of jails+interfaces than I had: jails are much less magical than I thought going in to this, and in particular the set of interfaces in the jail is (roughly) merely a tweaked version of the host's. I confess I'm still unclear why I don't see a default route in `netstat -rn` within the jail, and that `telnet www.gla.ac.uk 80` works but `route get www.gla.ac.uk` claims there is no route. But perhaps I'll leave that mystery for another day. But at least I got to spend some quality time with Stevens' IP book, so that was good. Thanks again to all who gave advice, and best wishes, Norman -- Norman Gray : https://nxg.me.uk SUPA School of Physics and Astronomy, University of Glasgow, UK From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Aug 26 23:09:57 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A3001085ED8 for ; Sun, 26 Aug 2018 23:09:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuripv@yuripv.net) Received: from wout2-smtp.messagingengine.com (wout2-smtp.messagingengine.com [64.147.123.25]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D6F09754FE for ; Sun, 26 Aug 2018 23:09:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuripv@yuripv.net) Received: from compute5.internal (compute5.nyi.internal [10.202.2.45]) by mailout.west.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62DAC34A; Sun, 26 Aug 2018 19:09:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailfrontend2 ([10.202.2.163]) by compute5.internal (MEProxy); Sun, 26 Aug 2018 19:09:49 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yuripv.net; h= content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-me-sender :x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm2; bh=XhtxxpfDN/h2nNibXENo636JOIIg3 tOcBkCNvFV8Eqs=; b=SPuNPs8fasir60nR57AnXY9fISkP+bg4ooO9V87RjMAbk oXcwh07c+PLv0XlNG+PVj/aatkQjwyxuebBqfYDOvZsgDfjCOhL7WTO4NMOphnGg 6n1FcR+/IIzpFUQsZyZa3kDyTpjikmsFRxnDEDBLDzo1SFEYn/I0EtArz/1GEntc X3wyIpA8b7StR4XZ4BIP4cP8Q/FhP4l2dNM878tfdXJ7+mIGCtonWFbJjqz0dPdB u/9VoKYXBhyTRfS9seuYMEqCtNe1x22SiGL0B+5ReUP3DHOe03K5SwOX9pXiwEVH i5ANgL3252yXXfh6MvWMJUz2r2Z1Fp8Rr8J7o+vXg== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :subject:to:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm3; bh=Xhtxxp fDN/h2nNibXENo636JOIIg3tOcBkCNvFV8Eqs=; b=n6J1AOOQt4D8Hyp6uwrFry 20c49nApdOPFsAIaCdLZJBJyUuqiPmXuojQ8Y6R8Ut3/mij7WZvbhlK8yGlxK/Nq LnpzNRa6QBjBSsvzMTtleeX3dX4QJgW1ymoe31KwPpgdzWQUfft3jlDuVZTIeZsX 3LDqUqONoRE3nF7KkeZMU+3lorN/qLEQlAfugcGUy/WPMa48ia/5llYE+lppBM1I 5S0VEpG+UMZ6cKKo/YBp3Jeq6+84tc7eosugla+PTNDKy3kn2cvYjXNnW2Fe1gc6 ZBdSW3JYBDuJuuXdISFRdTNbzERoTK/1H/6MmK6nSbzWt5Tq6yvRDqWt1SGTlqiQ == X-ME-Proxy: X-ME-Sender: Received: from [192.168.1.2] (unknown [94.233.224.99]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 63FF11028C; Sun, 26 Aug 2018 19:09:47 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: named and ntpd start order in rc.d To: Andrea Venturoli , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: From: Yuri Pankov Message-ID: Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2018 02:09:44 +0300 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2018 23:09:57 -0000 Andrea Venturoli wrote: > Hello. > > I'm in the same situation described in this bug: > https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=129146 > > ntpd starts when named is not yet running, fails to resolve its peers > and never works again until I restart it manually. This seems to be a real bug here. Sometimes I'm seeing the ntpd whining about resolve failures on start when I'm doing network maintenance, but I have never checked if it operates correctly once the nameservers are back. Did you look into *why* it never works again, and how exactly it doesn't work -- it still seems to be running and spamming console while it's unable to resolve? > That bug (of the 7.0 era) was closed as fixed, since /etc/rc.d/ntpd > requires ntpdate, which in turn required named. > However, the latest statement is not true anymore, today (probably due > to the fact that named is no longer in base). > > I guess I'm not the only one who has this problem and I wonder how > others are solving this issue. > Also, should I add a comment to that bug or open a new one? From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Aug 27 08:22:27 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50FB51090C55 for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2018 08:22:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yasu@utahime.org) Received: from gate.utahime.jp (ipq210.utahime.jp [183.180.29.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5CD884024 for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2018 08:22:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yasu@utahime.org) Received: from eastasia.home.utahime.org (eastasia.home.utahime.org [192.168.174.1]) by gate.utahime.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 650A717A3D; Mon, 27 Aug 2018 17:22:17 +0900 (JST) Received: from eastasia.home.utahime.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost-backdoor.home.utahime.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09FA828874; Mon, 27 Aug 2018 17:22:17 +0900 (JST) Received: from localhost (rolling.home.utahime.org [192.168.174.11]) by eastasia.home.utahime.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1EC6D28873; Mon, 27 Aug 2018 17:22:15 +0900 (JST) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2018 17:21:00 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20180827.172100.2296091074664550273.yasu@utahime.org> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: named and ntpd start order in rc.d From: Yasuhiro KIMURA In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Mew version 6.8 on Emacs 26.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2018 08:22:27 -0000 From: Andrea Venturoli Subject: named and ntpd start order in rc.d Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2018 18:34:43 +0200 > I'm in the same situation described in this bug: > https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=129146 > > ntpd starts when named is not yet running, fails to resolve its peers > and never works again until I restart it manually. > > That bug (of the 7.0 era) was closed as fixed, since /etc/rc.d/ntpd > requires ntpdate, which in turn required named. > However, the latest statement is not true anymore, today (probably due > to the fact that named is no longer in base). > > I guess I'm not the only one who has this problem and I wonder how > others are solving this issue. > Also, should I add a comment to that bug or open a new one? What are the versions of FreeBSD and BIND(named) you use? I use bind912-9.12.2P1_1(dns/bind912) on 11.2-RELEASE, and "rcorder /etc/rc.d* /usr/local/etc/rc.d*" gets following result. yasu@maybe[2006]% rcorder /etc/rc.d/* /usr/local/etc/rc.d/* (snip) /etc/rc.d/syslogd /usr/local/etc/rc.d/tcsd /usr/local/etc/rc.d/named /etc/rc.d/watchdogd /etc/rc.d/savecore /etc/rc.d/archdep /etc/rc.d/abi /etc/rc.d/SERVERS /usr/local/etc/rc.d/tpmd /etc/rc.d/accounting /etc/rc.d/ntpdate /etc/rc.d/rpcbind (snip) /etc/rc.d/local /etc/rc.d/lpd /etc/rc.d/motd /etc/rc.d/mountlate /etc/rc.d/nscd /etc/rc.d/ntpd /etc/rc.d/powerd (snip) So named, ntpdate and ntpd is started expected order in my environment. --- Yasuhiro KIMURA From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Aug 27 09:21:24 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B81A7108164C for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2018 09:21:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-en@lists.vlassakakis.de) Received: from dd14614.kasserver.com (dd14614.kasserver.com [85.13.136.14]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5D87C85E2D for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2018 09:21:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-en@lists.vlassakakis.de) Received: from [192.168.2.69] (dslb-178-007-193-225.178.007.pools.vodafone-ip.de [178.7.193.225]) by dd14614.kasserver.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id CCF2443C0816; Mon, 27 Aug 2018 11:21:14 +0200 (CEST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.5 \(3445.9.1\)) Subject: Re: disk or cable error? (CAM status: ATA Status Error) From: Philipp Vlassakakis In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2018 11:21:13 +0200 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <9A1AD918-BC0D-4A6F-9B7C-EB843886E284@lists.vlassakakis.de> References: To: ixbug@riseup.net X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.9.1) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2018 09:21:24 -0000 Hi, What are the SMART values of the hard disks?=20 High "Reallocated Sectors Count" or anything else?=20 I would change the cable and run a SMART-Test on both disks. Also make sure you have recent backups. Regards, > On 26. Aug 2018, at 17:01, ixbug@riseup.net wrote: >=20 > Hello, >=20 > since 3 days I get these errors on my FreeBSD 11.2 server > which has two (WDC WD1005FBYZ-01YCBB2) disks (ZFS mirror): >=20 > (ada1:ahcich1:0:0:0): WRITE_FPDMA_QUEUED. ACB: 61 08 90 a4 aa 40 1d 00 = 00 00 00 00 > (ada1:ahcich1:0:0:0): CAM status: ATA Status Error > (ada1:ahcich1:0:0:0): ATA status: 41 (DRDY ERR), error: 10 (IDNF ) > (ada1:ahcich1:0:0:0): RES: 41 10 90 a4 aa 00 1d 00 00 00 00 > (ada1:ahcich1:0:0:0): Retrying command > (ada0:ahcich0:0:0:0): WRITE_FPDMA_QUEUED. ACB: 61 60 38 7e 06 40 2e 00 = 00 00 00 00 > (ada0:ahcich0:0:0:0): CAM status: ATA Status Error > (ada0:ahcich0:0:0:0): ATA status: 41 (DRDY ERR), error: 10 (IDNF ) > (ada0:ahcich0:0:0:0): RES: 41 10 38 7e 06 00 2e 00 00 00 00 > (ada0:ahcich0:0:0:0): Retrying command >=20 > note that both affect both disks (ada0 + ada1). >=20 > frequency: about 30 times per day. >=20 > zpool status is fine. >=20 >=20 > since last night also smartctl complains: >=20 > smartctl -a /dev/ada0 (ada1 followed 6 hours later with the same = output) > output: > " > Error 1 occurred > When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was in an = unknown state. >=20 > After command completion occurred, registers were: > ER ST SC SN CL CH DH > -- -- -- -- -- -- -- > 04 51 00 00 00 00 00 Error: ABRT >=20 > Commands leading to the command that caused the error were: > CR FR SC SN CL CH DH DC Powered_Up_Time Command/Feature_Name > -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- ---------------- -------------------- >=20 > " >=20 > Do any of these errors provide hints as to whether this is a disk = error affecting both at the same time > or broken cable? (both disks are connected to the mainboard via the = same cable) >=20 >=20 > thanks in advance, > ixbug >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Aug 27 09:51:25 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E1A910826C2 for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2018 09:51:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ixbug@riseup.net) Received: from mx1.riseup.net (mx1.riseup.net [198.252.153.129]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.riseup.net", Issuer "COMODO RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1E81D86DDE for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2018 09:51:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ixbug@riseup.net) Received: from cotinga.riseup.net (cotinga-pn.riseup.net [10.0.1.164]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.riseup.net", Issuer "COMODO RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6A84A1A0244; Mon, 27 Aug 2018 02:51:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=riseup.net; s=squak; t=1535363478; bh=fq0YZx42I4ApMRizd8BdbDUZOhuVZtWswBnnL08OQEY=; h=Subject:To:Cc:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=WXslFifzLaMxwfF4gjHT4T+pwuflvKlLpBH4t1JUQ/UHeX+WXB9k/+BzUOYcDyqI7 fEFw8RcCpdMS3cKwb4eJ/tGx9+6bieQfL88hjUaUNwUufQ0HhMkvHgGsZZGbp+1DVB ynzz7tUJZGQlRgy3t2JIPknRZPOrH350mCk+l2rg= X-Riseup-User-ID: 170045C8F2E5BA1A53FF71DFF10A87C1B00B6BDD821CA828D455564849F2E899 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cotinga.riseup.net with ESMTPSA id 5C28D638C9; Mon, 27 Aug 2018 02:51:17 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: disk or cable error? (CAM status: ATA Status Error) To: Philipp Vlassakakis Cc: FreeBSD Questions References: <9A1AD918-BC0D-4A6F-9B7C-EB843886E284@lists.vlassakakis.de> From: ixbug@riseup.net Message-ID: <1542d2c8-2dfc-b2ec-f84b-945f270141c2@riseup.net> Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2018 09:51:00 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9A1AD918-BC0D-4A6F-9B7C-EB843886E284@lists.vlassakakis.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2018 09:51:25 -0000 Philipp Vlassakakis: > Hi, > > What are the SMART values of the hard disks? > High "Reallocated Sectors Count" or anything else? > > I would change the cable and run a SMART-Test on both disks. > Also make sure you have recent backups. > thanks for your reply, here are the SMART values ada0: ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE UPDATED WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE 1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x002f 200 200 051 Pre-fail Always - 0 3 Spin_Up_Time 0x0027 183 183 021 Pre-fail Always - 3808 4 Start_Stop_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 19 5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0x0033 200 200 140 Pre-fail Always - 0 7 Seek_Error_Rate 0x002e 100 253 000 Old_age Always - 0 9 Power_On_Hours 0x0032 097 097 000 Old_age Always - 2858 10 Spin_Retry_Count 0x0032 100 253 000 Old_age Always - 0 11 Calibration_Retry_Count 0x0032 100 253 000 Old_age Always - 0 12 Power_Cycle_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 19 16 Unknown_Attribute 0x0022 000 200 000 Old_age Always - 4413844054 183 Runtime_Bad_Block 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0 192 Power-Off_Retract_Count 0x0032 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 10 193 Load_Cycle_Count 0x0032 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 9 194 Temperature_Celsius 0x0022 118 113 000 Old_age Always - 29 196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0032 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 0 197 Current_Pending_Sector 0x0032 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 0 198 Offline_Uncorrectable 0x0030 100 253 000 Old_age Offline - 0 199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count 0x0032 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 0 200 Multi_Zone_Error_Rate 0x0008 100 253 000 Old_age Offline - 0 ada1: ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE UPDATED WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE 1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x002f 200 200 051 Pre-fail Always - 0 3 Spin_Up_Time 0x0027 143 143 021 Pre-fail Always - 3833 4 Start_Stop_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 18 5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0x0033 200 200 140 Pre-fail Always - 0 7 Seek_Error_Rate 0x002e 100 253 000 Old_age Always - 0 9 Power_On_Hours 0x0032 097 097 000 Old_age Always - 2858 10 Spin_Retry_Count 0x0032 100 253 000 Old_age Always - 0 11 Calibration_Retry_Count 0x0032 100 253 000 Old_age Always - 0 12 Power_Cycle_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 18 16 Unknown_Attribute 0x0022 000 200 000 Old_age Always - 4411825353 183 Runtime_Bad_Block 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0 192 Power-Off_Retract_Count 0x0032 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 9 193 Load_Cycle_Count 0x0032 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 9 194 Temperature_Celsius 0x0022 115 109 000 Old_age Always - 28 196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0032 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 0 197 Current_Pending_Sector 0x0032 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 0 198 Offline_Uncorrectable 0x0030 100 253 000 Old_age Offline - 0 199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count 0x0032 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 0 200 Multi_Zone_Error_Rate 0x0008 100 253 000 Old_age Offline - 0 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Aug 27 10:22:06 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D831C10839F8 for ; 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(CAM status: ATA Status Error) To: ixbug@riseup.net, FreeBSD Questions References: From: tech-lists Organization: none Message-ID: <2ec53017-df99-c860-9837-e75c71aa903a@zyxst.net> Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2018 11:21:58 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2018 10:22:07 -0000 Hello, On 26/08/2018 16:01, ixbug@riseup.net wrote: > since 3 days I get these errors on my FreeBSD 11.2 server > which has two (WDC WD1005FBYZ-01YCBB2) disks (ZFS mirror): Run smartctl -t long /dev/ada0 and smartctl -t long /dev/ada1 as root and then, after it's completed, look at smartctl -x /dev/ada0 and 1 and look for this section: SMART Extended Self-test Log Version: 1 (1 sectors) Num Test_Description Status Remaining LifeTime(hours) LBA_of_first_error and paste the output. -- J. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Aug 27 11:46:39 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CB081085D32 for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2018 11:46:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tech-lists@zyxst.net) Received: from out1-smtp.messagingengine.com (out1-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 08E6C8BCC8 for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2018 11:46:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tech-lists@zyxst.net) Received: from compute4.internal (compute4.nyi.internal [10.202.2.44]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70FC621BFD; Mon, 27 Aug 2018 07:46:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailfrontend2 ([10.202.2.163]) by compute4.internal (MEProxy); Mon, 27 Aug 2018 07:46:38 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=zyxst.net; h= content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-me-sender :x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm3; bh=5JHjv9PewhmpUtKTKButYhPJRFxls sTv/s6k8Ov9vXA=; b=K2y1V2ZvaGteMxy5JlEMfJif/9OPJqacIuEWEioms+Dc4 It7HIS6BE4Ho+f7qtwqnrO1EFWjAbDo24FzsQOkaIrkXcEwidIpv6/tWWoBSnvHk da5V2nE4vvfPmC76sSacKUkzrk7mV3nPD4ppCcSV1yk9b+iz4tQdWGGW5ak6ivCo uiYezlhsHPspFysTfTGSaguYxrGCyOUu5+XpqKkI+1ympbn0RL6r3/rSu43hlpDa D/EM7yUImbS651j57T862WL6jJ3sj6LPo5PGSmhx9Bzha+IVII3D1cfFLJHwAyZH dhcjqQv86y6mHs9mZn66JwpAQCk6Y8y9fbGShAJGw== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :subject:to:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm3; bh=5JHjv9 PewhmpUtKTKButYhPJRFxlssTv/s6k8Ov9vXA=; b=F1yUuTGwClEJIG7KmcBDNP asS5ew8Yemp7gabKQ1gpJYgZUz0+K3QpMf7Sm0O1BFZ3mv5j9jtvIYt+CKBT5JeH QtYIdMQLfV3XUchW0ukU0s6MNbWkJHTPdN/jDT104R2iA4FgHMnQ5fdocd8W9T5d hOrBsMSSdF+19vcmFrhRbh1ugBsxGb1s9zKgNpngpPefS/RLfUwuBB6f5N19Rdak XdHqzCtY2kc9Yp8QXq4RxRDEi7hoMfJU952SxW0tR/tkZsYz8elNvJS6AxSA3Cfx 2SiwOYBEEEw9u4uTzi87YNMuRO28/xAeLXNP6n2axPDBnr4ptUapTBKWt/OzYitw == X-ME-Proxy: X-ME-Sender: Received: from desktop.local (parsley.growveg.org [82.70.91.97]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id C4E1210288; Mon, 27 Aug 2018 07:46:37 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: disk or cable error? (CAM status: ATA Status Error) To: ixbug@riseup.net, FreeBSD Questions References: From: tech-lists Organization: none Message-ID: Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2018 12:46:36 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2018 11:46:39 -0000 On 26/08/2018 16:01, ixbug@riseup.net wrote: > Do any of these errors provide hints as to whether this is a disk > error affecting both at the same time or broken cable? (both disks > are connected to the mainboard via the same cable) these values: 5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct 196 Reallocated_Event_Count 197 Current_Pending_Sector 198 Offline_Uncorrectable are all zero for both disks, so if these remain zero after a successful long test with *no LBA errors* then that would seem to me at least to indicate there's no problems with the disks themselves. If, in the face of those results, this persisted: > (ada1:ahcich1:0:0:0): WRITE_FPDMA_QUEUED. ACB: 61 08 90 a4 aa 40 1d 00 00 00 00 00 > (ada1:ahcich1:0:0:0): CAM status: ATA Status Error > (ada1:ahcich1:0:0:0): ATA status: 41 (DRDY ERR), error: 10 (IDNF ) then yeah I'd say bad cable/bad interface -- J. 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(CAM status: ATA Status Error) To: tech-lists , FreeBSD Questions References: From: ixbug@riseup.net Message-ID: <23f23c0f-11aa-e00c-42a9-8c9865656c2f@riseup.net> Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2018 11:55:00 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2018 11:55:21 -0000 tech-lists: > On 26/08/2018 16:01, ixbug@riseup.net wrote: >> Do any of these errors provide hints as to whether this is a disk >> error affecting both at the same time or broken cable? (both disks >> are connected to the mainboard via the same cable) > > these values: > > 5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct > 196 Reallocated_Event_Count > 197 Current_Pending_Sector > 198 Offline_Uncorrectable > > are all zero for both disks, so if these remain zero after a successful long test with *no LBA errors* then that would seem to me at least to indicate there's no problems with the disks themselves. If, in the face of those results, this persisted: > >> (ada1:ahcich1:0:0:0): WRITE_FPDMA_QUEUED. ACB: 61 08 90 a4 aa 40 1d 00 00 00 00 00 >>  (ada1:ahcich1:0:0:0): CAM status: ATA Status Error >>  (ada1:ahcich1:0:0:0): ATA status: 41 (DRDY ERR), error: 10 (IDNF ) > > then yeah I'd say bad cable/bad interface thanks for your input. (long test is running..) 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(CAM status: ATA Status Error) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2018 15:54:11 +0100 Message-ID: <2592661.slyIVfH816@amd.asgard.uk> User-Agent: KMail/4.14.10 (FreeBSD/11.2-RELEASE-p2; KDE/4.14.38; amd64; ; ) In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-AuthUser: fbsd@dgmm.net X-Originating-IP: 89.187.86.9 X-SpamExperts-Domain: pickaweb.co.uk X-SpamExperts-Username: phantom Authentication-Results: securespamfilter.com; auth=pass (login) smtp.auth=phantom@pickaweb.co.uk X-SpamExperts-Outgoing-Class: unsure X-SpamExperts-Outgoing-Evidence: Combined (0.32) X-Recommended-Action: accept X-Filter-ID: EX5BVjFpneJeBchSMxfU5iYeMb9BsuYBskf7YjQldEx602E9L7XzfQH6nu9C/Fh9KJzpNe6xgvOx q3u0UDjvO16ABlNNUDIJIcF7N1k9wYur48C+/LzRqVzELXf1NLUsbNbo7palBZjCExzO+3olYv4/ tbFhKEZhQR/8DVhdVV7O4k7ydv2Rs1VgfbHBQGgnSBWlL1zfgiPkRstzHteqQVg1Uy9ADlOzeJz1 BxZWfHw5Hq+okk8kO+NUCpq3LTiGsZM3NzGj8IcslzaWgqEOuM+NvpGlmXbejfqufV4BNvoaw69H CSaTr/i05IQx+g16gWkCIn3WhszKF3IF5zl37EQMF99VlWOZVo1sbhkkbsVdShDQgcNrsOq2V45w 2m7kH5uZL6JM8Hj3QbidOELzGAkmr0Aaz6GoBF32dtdAsfG8Ksk+aedMfNWSnJswrtlN8RntVwvW AAL6n3ZJN1xRWE4k6IRoUTEtOwly3rNSN4EnNZ6tILGOfNglqio4kQd7pMsJmbYg5MneJhAYyRhh CYGsG5ZWx5PsclCqKTOq3CgmkF/5SF3EVraG1YhoPX6VCCQQ4BkekrES463VqGvdJp1C3fTspeyS y/cQtqWOCMI8BX8xCNDetd/MSXx+K70RlCZgv8PpAVHX9cYOFAPv5OTHfNdM4SQV6rHz5o8RjEn3 Y80OmAux3oN13+ztUzneKktYJz9gEFspqEIfAAcA6XTDAPt9OTGHo6PW+0Z7k/EM4qHe7aiRTFsS 2DS/SWfGSYfsE71iBtdkQuNjnpX+AFz1pRXWhjh9fdbl44I0Df1yyWTA/oQ3ErNzABTqmODtn2me lJXlpDw8gR8JVIFtesO/L1+z1deyLpUsVinam92xnUootgmFOIWOGoMv2GGrchAdgqp8yTsaikb2 trlo8WbCklJDQfhirlJ39UosXfoUyzlQwCOzLpxR3F/sOuDg1CKJk5ycE+JMum+xOx7pLQ6HU0QO mM1lkKhQc17eqiT5x1CG1O5RJdubPNoYB4rA X-Report-Abuse-To: spam@server.securespamfilter.com X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2018 14:54:21 -0000 On Monday 27 August 2018 12:46:36 tech-lists wrote: > On 26/08/2018 16:01, ixbug@riseup.net wrote: > > Do any of these errors provide hints as to whether this is a disk > > error affecting both at the same time or broken cable? (both disks > > are connected to the mainboard via the same cable) > > these values: > > 5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct > 196 Reallocated_Event_Count > 197 Current_Pending_Sector > 198 Offline_Uncorrectable > > are all zero for both disks, so if these remain zero after a successful > long test with *no LBA errors* then that would seem to me at least to > indicate there's no problems with the disks themselves. If, in the face > of those results, this persisted: > > > (ada1:ahcich1:0:0:0): WRITE_FPDMA_QUEUED. ACB: 61 08 90 a4 aa 40 1d 00 00 00 00 00 > > (ada1:ahcich1:0:0:0): CAM status: ATA Status Error > > (ada1:ahcich1:0:0:0): ATA status: 41 (DRDY ERR), error: 10 (IDNF ) > > then yeah I'd say bad cable/bad interface > IME "199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count" at zero generally means the SATA cable is fine. A failing cable that works most of the time almost always results in an ever increasing CRC Error Count. No guarantees, obviously, but it moves the odds in favour of something else being the problem. I have seen cheap nasty SATA cables result in no CRC Error Count but the drive dropping off the system. It can be cured temporarily by plugging/unplugging the connector a few times to "scrape clean" the contacts. I would guess it's two different metals reacting poorly with each other, especially in a humid environment. Having said that, even decent SATA cables are cheap and it can't hurt to try replacing them first if diagnostics can't point to a specific cause. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Aug 27 16:18:02 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AABC5108F448 for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2018 16:18:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ixbug@riseup.net) Received: from mx1.riseup.net (mx1.riseup.net [198.252.153.129]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.riseup.net", Issuer "COMODO RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4EA9A77B65 for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2018 16:18:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ixbug@riseup.net) Received: from cotinga.riseup.net (cotinga-pn.riseup.net [10.0.1.164]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.riseup.net", Issuer "COMODO RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B20411A0A37 for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2018 09:18:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=riseup.net; s=squak; t=1535386680; bh=ACmn5tjcC5aLpEUvgL52D0rgsJR61rZ9lcFXRMffeDs=; h=Subject:To:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=HjP626DHvyR9zoMAho+yfy+tQZc9Q6kS71VQM/Ix9M0LD6xcePyO7KvUKJfN6U4zG jKPcJCXJ3gQSwGEFrOAtbQOOZz1nuterCp5OK8AUqg4fkjoQoAQ31NiXAJ1eA+ZtZg FqBg/kHnBIWQgi6rhRcpVr15iIUzmA+k0vnJmEsA= X-Riseup-User-ID: 6C44F8CE4F4A57556C442EDAB7E9AF60860B8E5D6F4D04A8375CAAEF94B1EF11 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cotinga.riseup.net with ESMTPSA id E558D65A2F for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2018 09:17:59 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: disk or cable error? (CAM status: ATA Status Error) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <2592661.slyIVfH816@amd.asgard.uk> From: ixbug@riseup.net Message-ID: <320b1b61-947e-2e7e-2d43-9019b9cbb754@riseup.net> Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2018 16:17:00 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <2592661.slyIVfH816@amd.asgard.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2018 16:18:02 -0000 SMART long test returned with no errors on both disks: Num Test_Description Status Remaining LifeTime(hours) LBA_of_first_error # 1 Extended offline Completed without error 00% 2861 - next I'm going to replace the cable. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Aug 28 14:16:48 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 054E4108D889 for ; Tue, 28 Aug 2018 14:16:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from soth.netfence.it (net-2-44-121-52.cust.vodafonedsl.it [2.44.121.52]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mailserver.netfence.it", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 664B585D35 for ; Tue, 28 Aug 2018 14:16:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from alamar.ventu (alamar.local.netfence.it [10.1.2.18]) (authenticated bits=0) by soth.netfence.it (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id w7SEGSeO004884 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO); Tue, 28 Aug 2018 16:16:35 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) X-Authentication-Warning: soth.netfence.it: Host alamar.local.netfence.it [10.1.2.18] claimed to be alamar.ventu Subject: Re: named and ntpd start order in rc.d To: Yuri Pankov , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: From: Andrea Venturoli Message-ID: Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2018 16:16:28 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2018 14:16:48 -0000 On 8/27/18 1:09 AM, Yuri Pankov wrote: > Did you look into *why* it never works again, I tried looking if there's an option to make ntpd try to resolve again later, but I found none. > and how exactly it doesn't > work -- it still seems to be running and spamming console while it's > unable to resolve? It's still running, but doesn't print anything in the console. I guess it's still serving the LAN (so all computers will be syncrhonized to the master), but the master does not sync itself to anything. bye & Thanks av. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Aug 28 14:37:04 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD5C6108E3C1 for ; Tue, 28 Aug 2018 14:37:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from soth.netfence.it (net-2-44-121-52.cust.vodafonedsl.it [2.44.121.52]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mailserver.netfence.it", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1671486C7D for ; Tue, 28 Aug 2018 14:37:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from alamar.ventu (alamar.local.netfence.it [10.1.2.18]) (authenticated bits=0) by soth.netfence.it (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id w7SEarcm007139 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO); Tue, 28 Aug 2018 16:37:00 +0200 (CEST) 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<2a9b79b1-2b57-98d3-9b4e-53eb4a9768b8@netfence.it> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-AU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2018 18:10:42 -0000 On 29/8/18 12:06 am, Andrea Venturoli wrote: > On 8/27/18 10:21 AM, Yasuhiro KIMURA wrote: > >> What are the versions of FreeBSD and BIND(named) you use? > > # freebsd-version > 11.2-RELEASE-p2 > # pkg info | grep bind > bind911-9.11.4P1               BIND DNS suite with updated DNSSEC and > > > >> "rcorder /etc/rc.d* /usr/local/etc/rc.d*" gets following result. > > In fact, > >> # rcorder /etc/rc.d/* /usr/local/etc/rc.d/* | grep -E "(ntp|named)" >> /usr/local/etc/rc.d/named >> /etc/rc.d/ntpdate >> /etc/rc.d/ntpd > So named starts before ntpd. While I see ntpd failing during boot, I never looked into whether it was working during uptime. Actually I get named in between ntpdate and ntpd, but I also get unknown provision and circular dependency errors from rcorder. % freebsd-version 11.2-STABLE % pkg info -x bind bind913-9.13.2 % rcorder /etc/rc.d/* /usr/local/etc/rc.d/* | grep -E "(ntp|named)" /etc/rc.d/ntpdate /usr/local/etc/rc.d/named /etc/rc.d/ntpd On 27/8/18 2:04 am, Andrea Venturoli wrote: > > That bug (of the 7.0 era) was closed as fixed, since /etc/rc.d/ntpd > requires ntpdate, which in turn required named. -- FreeBSD - the place to B...Software Developing Shane Ambler From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Aug 28 19:05:48 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8D54109567F for ; Tue, 28 Aug 2018 19:05:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-wr1-x42d.google.com (mail-wr1-x42d.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::42d]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4DD5992AF1 for ; Tue, 28 Aug 2018 19:05:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: by mail-wr1-x42d.google.com with SMTP id u12-v6so2542091wrr.4 for ; Tue, 28 Aug 2018 12:05:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to :references:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=q08+Zl3O78tLkn/lAQkC+k+0Rb8ApPJjEBsylcq0g+g=; b=SMGo0GXJ3ksrkqCNDLeLYGYuRGO8UieIH273wLTtX1XwEp8cB9646V4SJTpKR959Qk qFv4Xru+ABgvkzaDJHnUodJ6UeFNag8b/nGhXWDqaFpG3de/z5vMYJEPsuU+zFcW0B4d +xEk2JJKYuB0pKdpb7Ak3MeuoB7QaTQmI0LxwiTRCHJPRf2RD1WPp3e/IMWdTTsbvV/R rKRAqbcMRRzceNeRdOuN4w+UE/KC0xf+sN62JQPHEqidskz8WFFHOzbDkXjCK/3fdO62 BFZuObSjdnhX6+WpxasWjgEY/xjLnrksfGfYOn3n3zj5fb6kNc3yir7v8mTNw8l9BRgh 4tUQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APzg51Dq/gzFF2Ms1H/cNtvnOCFePaG83kXqAYucwfiPiPg9COH77AAa 1KNRNfgkgrduPdqxZ9EOGArPGNCB X-Google-Smtp-Source: ANB0VdakC1YA/SqnB7MLngJbP1aFc0xlIHC8B5qhAxwu7x+dceu8iMLj0WhSn4O0WuYhN/L2wERhoQ== X-Received: by 2002:a5d:4648:: with SMTP id j8-v6mr2025454wrs.52.1535483147060; Tue, 28 Aug 2018 12:05:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com ([2.125.49.83]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id u40-v6sm3654883wrc.43.2018.08.28.12.05.45 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Tue, 28 Aug 2018 12:05:46 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2018 20:05:42 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: named and ntpd start order in rc.d Message-ID: <20180828200542.261d5ea8@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <2a9b79b1-2b57-98d3-9b4e-53eb4a9768b8@netfence.it> References: <20180827.172100.2296091074664550273.yasu@utahime.org> <2a9b79b1-2b57-98d3-9b4e-53eb4a9768b8@netfence.it> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.16.0 (GTK+ 2.24.32; amd64-portbld-freebsd11.1) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2018 19:05:49 -0000 On Tue, 28 Aug 2018 16:36:53 +0200 Andrea Venturoli wrote: > Any other way to insert some pause? You could write a simple rc script that depends on NETWORKING and runs before ntpdate. There are couple of workarounds. You could add a second nameserver to resolv.conf, e.g. 8.8.8.8. You could restart ntpd from a crontab @reboot line. 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[[DELIVERY_INFO]] [[POSTAL_ADDRESS]]= From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Aug 30 10:35:19 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A88E4109B2D6 for ; Thu, 30 Aug 2018 10:35:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from as@cmplx.uk) Received: from jail0199.vps.exonetric.net (jail0199.vps.exonetric.net [IPv6:2a02:1658:1::199:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "jail0199.vps.exonetric.net", Issuer "jail0199.vps.exonetric.net" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3ECE37B148 for ; Thu, 30 Aug 2018 10:35:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from as@cmplx.uk) Received: from jail0199.vps.exonetric.net (jail0199.vps.exonetric.net [178.250.76.108]) by jail0199.vps.exonetric.net (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id w7UAZHpt017405 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 30 Aug 2018 10:35:17 GMT (envelope-from as@jail0199.vps.exonetric.net) Received: (from as@localhost) by jail0199.vps.exonetric.net (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id w7UAZHuM017404 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 30 Aug 2018 10:35:17 GMT (envelope-from as) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2018 10:35:17 GMT From: Anton Shterenlikht Message-Id: <201808301035.w7UAZHuM017404@jail0199.vps.exonetric.net> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: pkg delete: nvd0p2[READ(offset=4920393699012689920, length=32768)]error = 5 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2018 10:35:19 -0000 I cannot remove graphics/drm-next-kmod. Actually I'm upgrading it, but it involves deinstallation, which gives a never ending stream of these errors: Aug 30 11:02:59 z kernel: g_vfs_done():nvd0p2[READ(offset=4775725116540071936, length=32768)]error = 5 Aug 30 11:02:59 z syslogd: last message repeated 692 times from which I cannot recover and have to do a cold reset. fsck doesn't show anything wrong with the file system. The other packages seem ok - I can upgrade, deinstall install new, etc. I'm on 12.0-CURRENT #0 r334665, if it matters. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Aug 31 07:22:17 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C4BDF763AD for ; Fri, 31 Aug 2018 07:22:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ole@free.de) Received: from smtp.free.de (smtp.free.de [91.204.6.103]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B9FCD85EBB for ; Fri, 31 Aug 2018 07:22:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ole@free.de) Received: from bard (x4e31c425.dyn.telefonica.de [78.49.196.37]) by smtp.free.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 847ECDB32 for ; Fri, 31 Aug 2018 09:22:08 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2018 09:22:04 +0200 From: Ole To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: daemon fails on startup because pid file does not exist Message-ID: <20180831092204.77f5188f.ole@free.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; boundary="Sig_/=vv2ZNokOsqG2vAIYFcKU8F"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2018 07:22:17 -0000 --Sig_/=vv2ZNokOsqG2vAIYFcKU8F Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I use databases/postgresql-repmgr for database replication. Now the daemon won't start if the pid file /var/run/repmgrd.pid does not exists. so before start i have to run touch /var/run/repmgrd.pid chown postgres:postgres /var/run/repmgrd.pid Is this a problem of the daemon process, of the init script or of my setup? The init-script is below. thanks=20 Ole #!/bin/sh # $FreeBSD: head/databases/postgresql-repmgr/files/repmgrd.in 458407 2018-0= 1-08 12:55:59Z bofh $ # # PROVIDE: repmgrd # REQUIRE: postgresql # KEYWORD: shutdown # # Add these lines to /etc/rc.conf.local or /etc/rc.conf to enable this # service: # # repmgrd_enable (bool): Set to YES to enable repmgrd. Default: NO # # repmgrd_config (path): Default: /usr/local/etc/repmgr.conf # . /etc/rc.subr name=3Drepmgrd rcvar=3Drepmgrd_enable load_rc_config $name : ${repmgrd_enable:=3D"NO"} : ${repmgrd_user:=3D"pgsql"} : ${repmgrd_config=3D"/usr/local/etc/repmgr.conf"} command=3D/usr/local/bin/${name} pidfile=3D/var/run/${name}.pid command_args=3D"-m -d -p $pidfile -f $repmgrd_config" run_rc_command "$1" --Sig_/=vv2ZNokOsqG2vAIYFcKU8F Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: Digitale Signatur von OpenPGP -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJbiOyfAAoJECWWkUao5JRQSLcP/3U0jWy03YB2kl3cyymwmdPU 6KLqiw0xpdyD8SY6KCnnrChIcYDeFBH9kXZk8kS9/KSXuosOYQaI+DFkKCRXojG8 urFkTR9zDqDHg8jgvWoV8iuu3ttmH3uzUN6SYxA5RjO6PeKUGBDNF8aNxBlh/USf /LvnED9VwblfU5lN0QuUtRFhuMMqfiNdfAW32B/ZCU7f56LvFz6oBlaAmaTawFyN df0Q+n58S/6jSVF3nLFkY0OUm9+nV+beEET2PIBkDAIBYWqSSqgQ0DqWzVXinAcr eMrXvatf/3jiG2XVftGfVB+WF4ujOmkrzlfjkf5wo6BCfDF68Kt5vG41wLoYW+n5 Y3iG0jfbbEMTrktyXY4Orkpv5NkfnJfkvWjIDTDG2spf7wq87Sf1Pon/rnZL3cE5 gpik3mcHkVJoR1sWw4y9upbW+wG0e11gkodExXaIED+xRj0WF8Py+kSRm0PTRI2/ gJrCteAm3Al8AigJrzlcvFAazHeyH53KAZu0tYMyZl7jpU9A/7d3CJrMF5ARSdND 6+N3YX0/6JmtCWMVgWXM5AgzcNIFMf5MuQEHNgF7289FQ8R3DYgD3mZKDVs/BEtS dw8Vmgj5G//fbDVrDhQabhwD2W0RHBtK/kHRraF60FyKHD/ZV3nYxGHQtzCg+Fjx uDTc1ga4Xi8WUnWx2Zg0 =KKOU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/=vv2ZNokOsqG2vAIYFcKU8F-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Aug 31 07:38:08 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B64BBF768B2 for ; Fri, 31 Aug 2018 07:38:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ixbug@riseup.net) Received: from mx1.riseup.net (mx1.riseup.net [198.252.153.129]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.riseup.net", Issuer "COMODO RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 502BF86610 for ; Fri, 31 Aug 2018 07:38:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ixbug@riseup.net) Received: from cotinga.riseup.net (cotinga-pn.riseup.net [10.0.1.164]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.riseup.net", Issuer "COMODO RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8C08F1A0492 for ; Fri, 31 Aug 2018 00:38:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=riseup.net; s=squak; t=1535701081; bh=1L/IgYNilhIRfnX99lZK5r0c2vGRBmgjKQSSVfVBhUw=; h=Subject:To:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=At74cZ5liUwfCwKBQM2PaP+H7WtbT4AdE9lyyFREsjj7BIlQ0F+of4k8YtbMssm1A En8/9pzLfF83WXxqjt6hbucYH1rFBlR/gi4MJtdw6o/5B50s24KGGSYQ1Fow3ap8xJ jVRFThVHdjR3sOl7G621ppqTaSxP8Q6cM3EZXEe0= X-Riseup-User-ID: A7A6D9342D2A0A9ADEB821AA1E3C04AB37C7AFBFF0613D4F01E09A037578C89F Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cotinga.riseup.net with ESMTPSA id 68C8A66FFA for ; Fri, 31 Aug 2018 00:37:59 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: disk or cable error? (CAM status: ATA Status Error) [solved] To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: From: ixbug@riseup.net Message-ID: <6559e016-94fc-9653-ba5b-104f5fc37366@riseup.net> Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2018 07:37:00 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2018 07:38:08 -0000 > Do any of these errors provide hints as to whether this is a disk error affecting both at the same time > or broken cable? (both disks are connected to the mainboard via the same cable) for the record: after replacing the cable that connected both disks to the mainboard everything is fine again. thanks for your input! From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Aug 31 20:54:10 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79907FDC5F3 for ; Fri, 31 Aug 2018 20:54:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@umpquanet.com) Received: from g5.umpquanet.com (ns.umpquanet.com [209.216.177.146]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "secure.umpquanet.com", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0E76684F33 for ; Fri, 31 Aug 2018 20:54:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@umpquanet.com) Received: from g5.umpquanet.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by g5.umpquanet.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id w7VKg8G3025187 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 31 Aug 2018 13:42:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@umpquanet.com) Received: (from james@localhost) by g5.umpquanet.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id w7VKg8TH025186 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 31 Aug 2018 13:42:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@umpquanet.com) X-Authentication-Warning: g5.umpquanet.com: james set sender to freebsd-questions@umpquanet.com using -f Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2018 13:42:08 -0700 From: freebsd-questions@umpquanet.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: vm-bhyve Windows 10 Pro guest has no network connectivity Message-ID: <20180831204208.GA75930@g5.umpquanet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2018 20:54:10 -0000 I have Googled a lot of hits for this problem, but so far I haven't seen a case that matches my scenario. I have a FreeBSD 11.2-STABLE system running vm-bhyve-1.2.3 with neither firewalling nor NAT in use. The primary symptom that I'm seeing is that the Windows guest sees no internet connectivity through the virtual Ethernet interface. The Windows DHCP client is not able to obtain an IP, even though there is DHCP service available on the host's bge0 public interface. If I manually configure an IP on the Windows host that is from the same subnet as the bhyve host, then I *can* ping IPs on the physical host (there are two, one primary and one jail IP). But I cannot ping any hosts on the subnet, including the LAN gateway IP. Some configuration information follows. Please let me know if I can provide more. Thank you! Jim # uname -a FreeBSD myhost.example.com 11.2-STABLE FreeBSD 11.2-STABLE #0 r335674: Tue Jun 26 13:20:24 PDT 2018 root@mydesk.example.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 # kldstat Id Refs Address Size Name 1 26 0xffffffff80200000 2036ee8 kernel 2 1 0xffffffff82238000 259e0 geom_mirror.ko 3 1 0xffffffff8225e000 381130 zfs.ko 4 2 0xffffffff825e0000 a380 opensolaris.ko 5 1 0xffffffff825eb000 e568 if_bridge.ko 6 2 0xffffffff825fa000 6d28 bridgestp.ko 7 1 0xffffffff82601000 7600 if_tap.ko 8 1 0xffffffff82609000 2988 nmdm.ko 9 1 0xffffffff8260c000 356928 vmm.ko 10 1 0xffffffff82a21000 2328 ums.ko # grep ^gateway /etc/rc.conf; sysctl net.inet.ip.forwarding gateway_enable="yes" net.inet.ip.forwarding: 1 # vm list NAME DATASTORE LOADER CPU MEMORY VNC AUTOSTART STATE win10 default uefi 2 2G 0.0.0.0:5900 No Running (6053) # vm info win10 ------------------------ Virtual Machine: win10 ------------------------ state: running (6053) datastore: default loader: none uuid: e1399325-ad4b-11e8-befb-1866daab8c4e uefi: yes cpu: 2 memory: 2G memory-resident: 2155712512 (2.007G) console-ports com1: /dev/nmdm-win10.1B vnc: 0.0.0.0:5900 network-interface number: 0 emulation: virtio-net virtual-switch: public fixed-mac-address: 58:9c:fc:00:20:78 fixed-device: - active-device: tap0 desc: vmnet-win10-0-public mtu: 1500 bridge: vm-public bytes-in: 0 (0.000B) bytes-out: 9184 (8.968K) virtual-disk number: 0 device-type: file emulation: ahci-hd options: - system-path: /bhyve/win10/disk0.img bytes-size: 21474836480 (20.000G) bytes-used: 6185743360 (5.760G) # vm switch info ------------------------ Virtual Switch: public ------------------------ type: standard ident: vm-public vlan: - physical-ports: bge0 bytes-in: 15640835 (14.916M) bytes-out: 882841459 (841.943M) virtual-port device: tap0 vm: win10 # ifconfig -l bge0 bge1 bge2 bge3 lo0 vm-public tap0 # for IF in bge0 vm-public tap0; do ifconfig $IF; done bge0: flags=8943 metric 0 mtu 1500 options=c0099 ether 18:66:da:ab:8c:4e hwaddr 18:66:da:ab:8c:4e inet 10.160.161.94 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 10.160.161.255 inet 10.160.161.26 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 10.160.161.26 nd6 options=29 media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseT ) status: active vm-public: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 ether 56:58:34:98:7a:aa nd6 options=1 groups: bridge vm-switch viid-4c918@ id 00:00:00:00:00:00 priority 32768 hellotime 2 fwddelay 15 maxage 20 holdcnt 6 proto rstp maxaddr 2000 timeout 1200 root id 00:00:00:00:00:00 priority 32768 ifcost 0 port 0 member: tap0 flags=143 ifmaxaddr 0 port 6 priority 128 path cost 2000000 member: bge0 flags=143 ifmaxaddr 0 port 1 priority 128 path cost 20000 tap0: flags=8943 metric 0 mtu 1500 description: vmnet-win10-0-public options=80000 ether 00:bd:d2:ac:42:00 hwaddr 00:bd:d2:ac:42:00 inet6 fe80::2bd:d2ff:feac:4200%tap0 prefixlen 64 tentative scopeid 0x6 inet 0.0.0.0 netmask 0xff000000 broadcast 255.255.255.255 nd6 options=29 media: Ethernet autoselect status: active groups: tap vm-port Opened by PID 6053 # netstat -4rn Routing tables Internet: Destination Gateway Flags Netif Expire default 10.160.161.1 UGS bge0 127.0.0.1 link#5 UH lo0 10.160.161.0/24 link#1 U bge0 10.160.161.26 link#1 UHS lo0 10.160.161.26/32 link#1 U bge0 10.160.161.94 link#1 UHS lo0 10.160.161.96 link#6 UHS lo0 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Aug 31 22:46:19 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D500EFCCF0D; 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Fri, 31 Aug 2018 15:20:31 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: CeDeROM Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2018 00:20:17 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: FreeBSD OpenCL/CUDA nVidia To: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List , FreeBSD Stable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2018 22:46:20 -0000 Hello world, Is nVidia OpenCL/CUDA supported on FreeBSD? I have GF1030GT on 11.2-RELEASE AMD64 using 390.77 nvidia driver. CLINFO shows 0 number of platforms :-( Any hints welcome :-) Tomek -- CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Sep 1 08:20:46 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADCC1FCC52F; Sat, 1 Sep 2018 08:20:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tommi.pernila@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qt0-f169.google.com (mail-qt0-f169.google.com [209.85.216.169]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 579C97FB90; Sat, 1 Sep 2018 08:20:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tommi.pernila@gmail.com) Received: by mail-qt0-f169.google.com with SMTP id z8-v6so17066102qto.9; Sat, 01 Sep 2018 01:20:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=mi/ymWd5W9hZLA8aWxXr7knsyteb6HyIXrp/XRyAjOs=; b=VBwKIVpILSXK0oynVvde4mubfZGFscLwsfbY9QmIYdy1ti3j/J0MPz3dlWSiNW+Qxr /8XJYnfBXzNwgN2rJqNftB1aw9xKtu8gr9KV4Dp0k74ij99mqZYlWPa+HB9vsP5VRSLx UvnONLy13TmlrDy7SU7lNwLfp+QYWWo7iBp6nE4NTKZXZsdo4dBcuAm8irL12oecn8eq yu6Ps5KQRxozZT+rFwhpJzQ3ay/R5c6+ZhPgAYTHIIPLaGrHKm0WP8gGI5YABOsAJ8jX pri/zsAErAv1p9lismJMzkEkLKpXyPRfZA3Yt6lLNqfeTCXnxIqPQ8qImMId8Z0ovPKu mfDw== X-Gm-Message-State: APzg51BVJRYYe5kFAyVI5MxkPDElRnVTM/kK2LVXbyDgi/h3bvKG+FRg kgRx1q2/8Kjt8k7+polRJ39fupvI364tPEoESYE= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ANB0Vdb3pmoWR8WuxjGdIgu9QHF9Af8A2WxZdzZV+X6YIYfgsj7RCaQbcKNtPi5rJPvSAfzQ+i2kRDDPKfrn+gNPgs4= X-Received: by 2002:aed:3bc5:: with SMTP id s5-v6mr18994600qte.207.1535788537070; Sat, 01 Sep 2018 00:55:37 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Tommi Pernila Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2018 10:55:26 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: FreeBSD OpenCL/CUDA nVidia To: CeDeROM Cc: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List , FreeBSD Stable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.27 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2018 08:20:47 -0000 Hi, Nvidia doesn't provide native CUDA drivers. There might be an option on trying to run the driver through the linuxulator, but it looks like it there are some issue with it. this thread has a bit more information: https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/linux-binary-compatibility-nvidia-drivers-and-cuda-for-blender.65065/ So it looks like FreeBSD is not the platform for CUDA. OpenCL with AMD and Intel should be working with FreeBSD. -T On Sat, 1 Sep 2018 at 1.55, CeDeROM wrote: > Hello world, > > Is nVidia OpenCL/CUDA supported on FreeBSD? > > I have GF1030GT on 11.2-RELEASE AMD64 using 390.77 nvidia driver. > CLINFO shows 0 number of platforms :-( > > Any hints welcome :-) > Tomek > > -- > CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Sep 1 10:39:01 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D74FAFEA3B2; Sat, 1 Sep 2018 10:39:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomek.cedro@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ua1-f52.google.com (mail-ua1-f52.google.com [209.85.222.52]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 80DD284CB5; Sat, 1 Sep 2018 10:39:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomek.cedro@gmail.com) Received: by mail-ua1-f52.google.com with SMTP id m11-v6so10011173uao.11; Sat, 01 Sep 2018 03:39:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=eRNPphLWcN+pR16j5TAv5MJt3OFgmUPPYP5kjnqzTK8=; b=Mb5SuvW6HxEVUiN0xZdJ3IzXHvRQyAw2OLtNfzfGLDCs9u3NySG5wcpB0zC8zMJrcA bC3quKVqBcFSjUtIH3qAp3lrmIQOIN/sePdXidOITnKBIhCR1+z2OiLV/l+9n1h2I89v HcrhVHsYeCFgw0IGCgIjQhJYTTD2gdlQ9iI2h+Gy8DL9Ylo7a/Il0OurvHfjsk1RBaWO mhY8RGTpRmaGGSQunT94gZP8jqJVeYRyv/QoOjpQ4NGJ6eZXBNaa7m3lYXoeiqZlxcPQ Fsheh5N1kwApJJm/Xuif5dCKOCh5h1pGGjPSQmuV55In7qGk6W6hE6E6uFZVvso42h4X PCXg== X-Gm-Message-State: APzg51CUZzmxiwEIxRBzjiHSPFcCJfgBFxWYg2X4gX5g+961O/59Eder l2phZ6CE6L1R0oUxSBAmQFWup5UuJW4KJDNyxK0= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ANB0VdbKZHy5AKIfsMUeL9Tm04YZKM7ow4V9+w3ggs4jW+P2ZghYxVKU1jbhZkq6Rzw4uo1yblXL2BQxDMy2hGJp4uU= X-Received: by 2002:ab0:1544:: with SMTP id p4-v6mr11531905uae.81.1535795054225; Sat, 01 Sep 2018 02:44:14 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: CeDeROM Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2018 11:44:02 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: FreeBSD OpenCL/CUDA nVidia To: tommi.pernila@iki.fi Cc: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List , FreeBSD Stable , nvidia-bug-report@nvidia.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2018 10:39:02 -0000 Thank you Tommy.. bad news.. how did that happen for nVidia to become worst GPU driver provider to FreeBSD lagging even behind ATI/AMD and Intel.. I guess these are closed-source drivers so we have nothing to do here.. I was always buying nVidia only because of trust in their best drivers.. but that needs to be revised I see :-( -- CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Sep 1 14:54:29 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 701F2FF1C72 for ; Sat, 1 Sep 2018 14:54:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carmel_ny@outlook.com) Received: from NAM04-SN1-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-oln040092011044.outbound.protection.outlook.com [40.92.11.44]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mail.protection.outlook.com", Issuer "Microsoft IT TLS CA 4" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C1C368EDFD for ; Sat, 1 Sep 2018 14:54:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carmel_ny@outlook.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=outlook.com; 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I guess these are closed-source drivers so we have nothing to >do here.. I was always buying nVidia only because of trust in their >best drivers.. but that needs to be revised I see :-( > I don't believe that is a correct interpretation of the problem. Several years ago, FreeBSD was unable to support nVidia's 64 bit drivers. Eventuall= y, that problem was alleviated. However, and this is what I have gathered from reading chat forums dedicated to nVidia, FreeBSD still does not properly handle all of the features that nVidia offers in a manner similar to MS Windows (naturally) and other *.nix operating systems. A business model whe= re nVidia would be forced to spend large amounts of money to devise a way to b= e 100% compatible with FreeBSD, a user base magnitudes smaller than MS Window= s or other *.nix operating systems, would prove to be a losing strategy. A far more easily implemented plan would be for the FreeBSD developers to p= in point exactly what FreeBSD needs to do to become fully compatible with nVid= ia products. Microsoft works closely with nVidia, as well as some other *.nix developers to assure that their products are compatible. Why isn't FreeBSD taking this approach? --=20 Carmel From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Sep 1 16:14:40 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0F63FF3B23 for ; Sat, 1 Sep 2018 16:14:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomek.cedro@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ua1-f41.google.com (mail-ua1-f41.google.com [209.85.222.41]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 816B1720E7 for ; Sat, 1 Sep 2018 16:14:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomek.cedro@gmail.com) Received: by mail-ua1-f41.google.com with SMTP id q7-v6so10368631uam.12 for ; Sat, 01 Sep 2018 09:14:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=ju/RJ6kflAlgc2qhN+73WUXYFR/pYangW/OLYkBJ+JQ=; b=pVPgPxbYVa7PHRJcHfua13aMLKQ2/jxq+wIWKntX/WfS+SLtywwMY76dAa70x6tSGo YA5yNshxxKngGDiEEjun3Mk2uVl6BMmoLSYrmpbsLfFSfUoRRtdVM5snu2dxIbPEV2UI YdPCkbxKyDsRhOCkXul7q5o9JcWThZhvCXWVSALV70/CP4mXaG0yxJik6nA4TrBZHQfV EkOlqWLKcZfE9T89Fiwq5H7zFSsuifosBAqa+s/WVziWEbyLFwMK8HEcNQUAvGkUSjP4 8jV970ohrw8H0FBkRjkK1kleIy40R0lc9LGKnUepZ0mu3IV8LVLpnIMd1N3D5zXlu3f1 zcwg== X-Gm-Message-State: APzg51B4mY1LVcaVMFn6E/vfdCADY700wE+0sKNal4BBxk5ukKXtpjvY KQCVu4g0XvMVuiOA5yLIVajvyhGt4yEjEFUwEgN0J4eR X-Google-Smtp-Source: ANB0VdbpI6PRe3E4ALMP3Cc3Hpr933qbuNc8AitfZha7YnCqrHzre/OKl2yOxy8mZKlmzSfyrj50nlRZRB+lTjtalPk= X-Received: by 2002:ab0:1544:: with SMTP id p4-v6mr12209896uae.81.1535818473817; Sat, 01 Sep 2018 09:14:33 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: CeDeROM Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2018 18:14:21 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: FreeBSD OpenCL/CUDA nVidia To: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.27 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2018 16:14:41 -0000 Great idea! Workplan and TODO list from FreeBSD to nVidia could be really helpful and productive for both parties :-) Anyone taking care of X11/nVidia at this point? How about Open-Source NV driver? Any chance this one could support CUDA/OpenCL? -- CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Sep 1 16:34:38 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26BD0FF4281 for ; Sat, 1 Sep 2018 16:34:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com) Received: from s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com (s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com [142.0.176.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C8E9072D5F for ; Sat, 1 Sep 2018 16:34:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=email-od.com;i=@email-od.com;s=dkim; c=relaxed/relaxed; q=dns/txt; t=1535819678; x=1538411678; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:message-id:subject:to:from:date:x-thread-info; bh=7C9s3zydecKtE/ACnNYctm8OP2uc3plrFMzRSELwWSE=; b=vIltWd2fx1f2YonDpmit19tgHEOhyRtpWI1Xhw3/GM0KPHskwlboaIeDFOttB5LxYIXLOfb1SKC/d0Kh8ZTp+1OyPHvD2mLM9FMgb/+0OldHKdaAWw2ax6TFadF9amBSvoy9bgTmA0bLmXYFBYKQaorX51XcqCHyVJlNsQJcU2g= X-Thread-Info: NDI1MC4xMi4xOTkwMDAwMDE0N2U0ZjQuZnJlZWJzZC1xdWVzdGlvbnM9ZnJlZWJzZC5vcmc= Received: from r1.sg.in.socketlabs.com (r1.sg.in.socketlabs.com [142.0.179.11]) by mxsg2.email-od.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Sat, 1 Sep 2018 11:34:20 -0400 Received: from smtp.lan.sohara.org (EMTPY [89.127.62.20]) by r1.sg.in.socketlabs.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Sat, 1 Sep 2018 11:34:19 -0400 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.lan.sohara.org) by smtp.lan.sohara.org with smtp (Exim 4.91 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1fw7uk-0002gk-QY for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 01 Sep 2018 15:34:18 +0000 Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2018 16:34:17 +0100 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD OpenCL/CUDA nVidia Message-Id: <20180901163417.17958691bbdf6b85168ead16@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.24.32; amd64-portbld-freebsd11.1) X-Clacks-Overhead: "GNU Terry Pratchett" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2018 16:34:38 -0000 On Sat, 1 Sep 2018 14:54:26 +0000 Carmel NY wrote: > I don't believe that is a correct interpretation of the problem. Several > years ago, FreeBSD was unable to support nVidia's 64 bit drivers. You have it backwards - nVidia's drivers come from nVidia they choose what platforms to write drivers for, how often to update them and what features to support on each platform. They naturally prioritise the platforms that lead to the most sales - which would be Windows (several versions for different versions of Windows) then Linux then FreeBSD. If memory serves correctly FreeBSD originally supported running nVidia's 32 bit Linux drivers with the aid of the linux emulation layer. It was some time before FreeBSD had a 64 bit Linux emulation layer. Nothing to do with supporting nVidia products, everything to do with supporting Linux ABIs. Now nVidia provide FreeBSD drivers so there's little incentive to consider running the Linux drivers under emulation. > A far more easily implemented plan would be for the FreeBSD developers to > pin point exactly what FreeBSD needs to do to become fully compatible > with nVidia products. nVidia make products for several versions of Windows, Linux and FreeBSD these drivers are all different and tailored to their targets by nVidia with the help of the OS makers in each case. There's no such thing as "fully compatible with nVidia products", it's not as though Windows and Linux run the same drivers. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Sep 1 17:11:35 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAFF2FF533C for ; Sat, 1 Sep 2018 17:11:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from kicp.uchicago.edu (kicp.uchicago.edu [128.135.20.70]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78B4773EEE for ; Sat, 1 Sep 2018 17:11:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from point.uchicago.edu (point.uchicago.edu [128.135.52.6]) by kicp.uchicago.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28FD4718079 for ; Sat, 1 Sep 2018 12:11:29 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: FreeBSD OpenCL/CUDA nVidia To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: From: Valeri Galtsev Message-ID: <1396af4b-c3f5-0781-f06f-b03c25ec5689@kicp.uchicago.edu> Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2018 12:11:27 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2018 17:11:36 -0000 On 9/1/18 9:54 AM, Carmel NY wrote: > On Sat, 1 Sep 2018 11:44:02 +0200, CeDeROM stated: > >> Thank you Tommy.. bad news.. how did that happen for nVidia to become >> worst GPU driver provider to FreeBSD lagging even behind ATI/AMD and >> Intel.. I guess these are closed-source drivers so we have nothing to >> do here.. I was always buying nVidia only because of trust in their >> best drivers.. but that needs to be revised I see :-( >> > > > I don't believe that is a correct interpretation of the problem. Several > years ago, FreeBSD was unable to support nVidia's 64 bit drivers. Eventually, > that problem was alleviated. However, and this is what I have gathered from > reading chat forums dedicated to nVidia, FreeBSD still does not properly > handle all of the features that nVidia offers in a manner similar to MS > Windows (naturally) and other *.nix operating systems. A business model where > nVidia would be forced to spend large amounts of money to devise a way to be > 100% compatible with FreeBSD, a user base magnitudes smaller than MS Windows > or other *.nix operating systems, would prove to be a losing strategy. I was holding it off, but you just made me comment on NVIDIA and on what you said. You have it all backwards. It is not FreeBSD that doesn't [supports ... NVIDIA ... features]. It is NVIDIA that does not disclose the internals of their chips, and it does not disclose any [or at least sufficient] specifications. In other words, there is no way any programmer will be able to write driver for NVIDIA chips plainly because of lack of necessary information. NVIDIA was like that since forever. It sets me off when someone [of Linux folks] says "compile NVIDIA driver". It is not NVIDIA driver they compile, but merely interface between NVIDIA proprietary driver (available only in binary form) and particular version of [Linux] kernel. > > A far more easily implemented plan would be for the FreeBSD developers to pin > point exactly what FreeBSD needs to do to become fully compatible with nVidia > products. Microsoft works closely with nVidia, as well as some other *.nix > developers to assure that their products are compatible. Why isn't FreeBSD > taking this approach? Please, get your facts straight! It is NVIDIA that just ignores the existence of other systems (apart from which they made sure their binary proprietary driver works on). Do not request open source systems to become "compatible" with some proprietary hardware which is just a black box without any description of what is inside (for the whole open source world). Also, previous poster of this thread put NVIDIA above Intel and ATI video chips. I don't care about Intel video chip (which is crap IMHO), but I feel offended by under-rating ATI. In my observation, for over decade (maybe a couple of decades) ATI (bought out by AMD a few years ago) was disclosing sufficient amount of information about internals of their video chips, therefore open source Linux drivers always worked well and had access to pretty much all features of ATI video chips. To the contrary to NVIDIA, for whose chips there was only minimal information, thus it was possible to write open source driver that worked only in very generic way (e.g. you could get in trouble using open source driver for NVIDIA card with dual screen, so you have to install darn NVIDIA binary driver). Some Linux folks around me were always setting me off when they were praising NVIDIA, and saying BS like "compiling NVIDIA driver" whereas it is merely interface between binary closed source driver and kernel that they were compiling. And last but not least. FreeBSD is open source system. Therefore, demanding that FreeBSD "works with" proprietary software and hardware developer, is something way out of reasonable. If someone - NVIDIA - elected not to disclose their information to open source community, no sane person will invest their time into even develop some open source software even for some particular hardware for which enough information is available. It only will be possible if NVIDIA in our case discloses all information, but even that is not enough, or at least will not be enough for me, they have to commit to always providing all information, otherwise tomorrow they may stop doing it and all my today's work goes to trash. So, please, put the blame where it belongs: with NVIDIA not supporting several major open source systems, FreeBSD being one of them. Valeri -- ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Sep 1 17:14:35 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88C3FFF54B2 for ; Sat, 1 Sep 2018 17:14:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from kicp.uchicago.edu (kicp.uchicago.edu [128.135.20.70]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45FCD74093 for ; Sat, 1 Sep 2018 17:14:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from point.uchicago.edu (point.uchicago.edu [128.135.52.6]) by kicp.uchicago.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B6B771807F for ; Sat, 1 Sep 2018 12:14:35 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: FreeBSD OpenCL/CUDA nVidia To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20180901163417.17958691bbdf6b85168ead16@sohara.org> From: Valeri Galtsev Message-ID: <28ac238b-1d8b-f26b-878f-ff350495a865@kicp.uchicago.edu> Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2018 12:14:34 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20180901163417.17958691bbdf6b85168ead16@sohara.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2018 17:14:35 -0000 On 9/1/18 10:34 AM, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > On Sat, 1 Sep 2018 14:54:26 +0000 > Carmel NY wrote: > >> I don't believe that is a correct interpretation of the problem. Several >> years ago, FreeBSD was unable to support nVidia's 64 bit drivers. > > You have it backwards - nVidia's drivers come from nVidia they > choose what platforms to write drivers for, how often to update them and > what features to support on each platform. They naturally prioritise the > platforms that lead to the most sales - which would be Windows (several > versions for different versions of Windows) then Linux then FreeBSD. > > If memory serves correctly FreeBSD originally supported running > nVidia's 32 bit Linux drivers with the aid of the linux emulation layer. It > was some time before FreeBSD had a 64 bit Linux emulation layer. Nothing to > do with supporting nVidia products, everything to do with supporting Linux > ABIs. Now nVidia provide FreeBSD drivers so there's little incentive to > consider running the Linux drivers under emulation. > >> A far more easily implemented plan would be for the FreeBSD developers to >> pin point exactly what FreeBSD needs to do to become fully compatible >> with nVidia products. > > nVidia make products for several versions of Windows, Linux and > FreeBSD these drivers are all different and tailored to their targets by > nVidia with the help of the OS makers in each case. There's no such thing > as "fully compatible with nVidia products", it's not as though Windows and > Linux run the same drivers. > Thanks, Steve, I second that. I didn't see your reply when few seconds ago I replied with somewhat similar (though much angrier, as wrong things really set me off) post. Valeri -- ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Sep 1 17:23:04 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFFFCFF58E2 for ; Sat, 1 Sep 2018 17:23:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from kicp.uchicago.edu (kicp.uchicago.edu [128.135.20.70]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73E567450F for ; Sat, 1 Sep 2018 17:23:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from point.uchicago.edu (point.uchicago.edu [128.135.52.6]) by kicp.uchicago.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id E152071807F for ; Sat, 1 Sep 2018 12:23:03 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: FreeBSD OpenCL/CUDA nVidia To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: From: Valeri Galtsev Message-ID: Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2018 12:23:03 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2018 17:23:04 -0000 On 9/1/18 11:14 AM, CeDeROM wrote: > Great idea! Workplan and TODO list from FreeBSD to nVidia could be really > helpful and productive for both parties :-) > > Anyone taking care of X11/nVidia at this point? No, they have always been closed source, no details disclosing folts > > How about Open-Source NV driver? Any chance this one could support > CUDA/OpenCL? Stop dreaming, this will never happen, NVIDIA has long history of not disclosing details of their chips internals, and no sane programmer will waste time on the stuff from company that has longstanding attitude line NVIDIA's one. If you program that, I will say hooray, and simultaneously will tell you my condolences in advance as quite soon your driver will die because of lack on information from NVIDIA. Which I predict will happen even if you once get all information you need. This is my (and not only my) loooong observation. Valeri > > -- > CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Sep 1 17:40:21 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79936FF5CDF for ; Sat, 1 Sep 2018 17:40:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com) Received: from s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com (s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com [142.0.176.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2338274982 for ; Sat, 1 Sep 2018 17:40:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=email-od.com;i=@email-od.com;s=dkim; c=relaxed/relaxed; q=dns/txt; t=1535823621; x=1538415621; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:message-id:subject:to:from:date:x-thread-info; bh=su+NHeI0VxJBhn4KpY5EzrxJ++Gkd6dyLuXtKJaPlf4=; b=ShXyc6GOS7rLBaiAFjUcT/oeQyaO1XVxDFk+M1Jqv/UJdhPj8l+fpop/gIhx1lKQ08krwMTlV/aKF0VzQM1Uzhi4UwBSjxTtLcj3OMcjfjxdpVJOMaSzDOfKIwgfr99/L2UIG7+RmLyV6wfC1ZLPJMOaYRSiY07fqCnJr+ZqC90= X-Thread-Info: NDI1MC4xMi4xOTkwMDAwMDE0OWVlYWQuZnJlZWJzZC1xdWVzdGlvbnM9ZnJlZWJzZC5vcmc= Received: from r2.h.in.socketlabs.com (r2.h.in.socketlabs.com [142.0.180.12]) by mxsg2.email-od.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Sat, 1 Sep 2018 13:40:17 -0400 Received: from smtp.lan.sohara.org (EMTPY [89.127.62.20]) by r2.h.in.socketlabs.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Sat, 1 Sep 2018 13:40:17 -0400 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.lan.sohara.org) by smtp.lan.sohara.org with smtp (Exim 4.91 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1fw9sc-0003MU-JJ for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 01 Sep 2018 17:40:14 +0000 Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2018 18:40:12 +0100 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD OpenCL/CUDA nVidia Message-Id: <20180901184012.074c6a7bd0fa2050e953dcb8@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.24.32; amd64-portbld-freebsd11.1) X-Clacks-Overhead: "GNU Terry Pratchett" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2018 17:40:21 -0000 On Sat, 1 Sep 2018 18:14:21 +0200 CeDeROM wrote: > Great idea! Workplan and TODO list from FreeBSD to nVidia could be really > helpful and productive for both parties :-) > > Anyone taking care of X11/nVidia at this point? > > How about Open-Source NV driver? Any chance this one could support > CUDA/OpenCL? Having taken a look at the nVidia site it seems that the FreeBSD video driver is probably essentially the same as the Linux one (the documentation keeps saying Linux), but the CUDA stack is a completely separate product only available for Windows, Linux and Mac. Possibly the Linux one might be persuaded to work. As for OpenCL that would need documentation that nVidia chooses not to publish. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Sep 1 21:07:36 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C856CFFAAFD for ; Sat, 1 Sep 2018 21:07:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomek.cedro@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ua1-f54.google.com (mail-ua1-f54.google.com [209.85.222.54]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 70C517B9CD for ; Sat, 1 Sep 2018 21:07:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomek.cedro@gmail.com) Received: by mail-ua1-f54.google.com with SMTP id m26-v6so10657888uap.2 for ; Sat, 01 Sep 2018 14:07:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=l11FsiPv/Y7l6SCDgvgHFTZumfI/kYowtmqhddDfsuU=; b=ok6vh5uxYnK10KgYBOJ0RrBzaeULik7StA06jnmP6AH1HRWAycQwN+OuefkBEmBfNt xySxBIzd3FGASrSh4VrnYVwyTmJJRopeIEd8kVQxIZHEplkJhMw24FcXnAl230zB87qV 67MP34eC3+8BCPZyLRbujxxT97vNYSJlwGMnYq5dvvNGFjnE3sVRIVPwddjI+L2D8nEz Mtg0ZOtF/MgDtqxPwef8DmfsvMosnpm3c52a6xraaU4fjdFmHbuKT7rZ/uYBeh+AI4hM 2R/ZOUNKoGuBbfwtYguYUe0uNHVcR86zZuVHNjz5TUVJWR4irDGk/vdgrBh4AF7W4vTB xxpA== X-Gm-Message-State: APzg51B/abd0kCi8jW3F8sDwGpB6jTCa8T+NrsxC0Qu+HpJh7VOvJ8A5 KR1IkUiHtEFG118FX0NUwixeiBmWIOTIqhzBrkAGSiay X-Google-Smtp-Source: ANB0Vda/L/OSBo8c2lhNleyNEFiP+A7oFWe8xs0OU1QFnyOalIcJS1eh3eEzsToQcxpdG5WclaDX/wTcO/bjk5qj2K0= X-Received: by 2002:ab0:1a10:: with SMTP id a16-v6mr12668417uai.110.1535836055569; Sat, 01 Sep 2018 14:07:35 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: CeDeROM Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2018 23:07:46 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: FreeBSD OpenCL/CUDA nVidia To: galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu Cc: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2018 21:07:37 -0000 On Sat, Sep 1, 2018 at 7:23 PM Valeri Galtsev wrote: > On 9/1/18 11:14 AM, CeDeROM wrote: > > Great idea! Workplan and TODO list from FreeBSD to nVidia could be really > > helpful and productive for both parties :-) > > > > Anyone taking care of X11/nVidia at this point? > No, they have always been closed source, no details disclosing folts > > > > > How about Open-Source NV driver? Any chance this one could support > > CUDA/OpenCL? > > Stop dreaming, this will never happen, NVIDIA has long history of not > disclosing details of their chips internals, and no sane programmer will > waste time on the stuff from company that has longstanding attitude line > NVIDIA's one. Thank you Valeri for this bucket of cold water. I remember long time ago, when for the first and last time I bought an ATI card, then I had to rewrite some glue of the binary blob of the x11 driver when Linux switched from 2.4.9 to 2.4.10 and its internal API started to change on each kernel release.. that was the time and reason I have stopped using both ATI and Linux (that I was using since 2.0.36 and I guess that was around FreeBSD 3 era).. I was so amazed by nVidia support back then, and their FreeBSD driver even supporting Linux emulation. I was buying and recommending only nVidia. Things just worked out of the box "the BSD way". UNTIL TODAY :-( Looks like coins have flipped and today nVidia lags behind even simplest cards.. with non-existent specifications and absolutely minimal support for Open-Source :-( How sad. World is going bad direction :-( You know what, if nVidia does not care about its most geeky customers, I heard OpenCL working on ATI/AMD + FreeBSD.. and I am using OpenCL on Intel video on my macOS right now.. I will borrow a Radeon and see if that works out of the box :-) That would also explain why PlayStation4 that runs on FreeBSD uses both AMD CPU and GPU. Maybe this is the way to go.. What is the current AMD/ATI support for Open-Source? Do they provide full GPU specification as opposed to nVidia? 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Any chance this one could support > > CUDA/OpenCL? > > Having taken a look at the nVidia site it seems that the FreeBSD > video driver is probably essentially the same as the Linux one (the > documentation keeps saying Linux), but the CUDA stack is a completely > separate product only available for Windows, Linux and Mac. Possibly the > Linux one might be persuaded to work. > > As for OpenCL that would need documentation that nVidia chooses not > to publish. Thank you Steve! NVIDIA SUX! 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