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Date:      Sun, 26 Nov 2006 02:42:19 -0500
From:      Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org>
To:        gnome@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   [ports-i386@FreeBSD.org: libwnck-2.16.2 failed on i386 5-exp]
Message-ID:  <20061126074219.GH48194@xor.obsecurity.org>

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Dear Maintainer,

As you may know, one of the major projects we are working on in the
ports community is the push to incorporate Xorg 7.x.  As part of this
change, X is moving from /usr/X11R6 into /usr/local.  This means that
all ports that use X need to be flexible enough to deal with X being
in a new location.

Unfortunately, your port is not currently compliant; when your port
and everything else is compiled with a nonstandard X11BASE (see
below), your port fails to compile.

This is probably because it "knows" that X11 files live in /usr/X11R6
and nowhere else.  Can you please investigate this as a matter of
priority, and submit a PR with the fixes when you are ready?

Thanks,
Kris

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Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2006 07:14:09 GMT
From: User Ports-i386 <ports-i386@FreeBSD.org>
To: kris@FreeBSD.org
Subject: libwnck-2.16.2 failed on i386 5-exp
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building libwnck-2.16.2 on gohan38.freebsd.org
in directory /x/tmp/5-exp/chroot/34840
building for: 6.2-RELEASE i386
maintained by: gnome@FreeBSD.org
port directory: /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/libwnck
build started at Sun Nov 26 07:05:46 UTC 2006
FETCH_DEPENDS=3D
PATCH_DEPENDS=3Dlibtool-1.5.22_2.tbz
EXTRACT_DEPENDS=3D
BUILD_DEPENDS=3Datk-1.12.3.tbz bison-1.75_2,1.tbz bitstream-vera-1.10_2.tbz=
 cairo-1.2.6.tbz expat-2.0.0_1.tbz fontconfig-2.3.2_6,1.tbz freetype2-2.2.1=
_1.tbz gettext-0.14.5_2.tbz glib-2.12.4.tbz gmake-3.81_1.tbz gtk-2.10.6_2.t=
bz hicolor-icon-theme-0.9_2.tbz intltool-0.35.0.tbz jpeg-6b_4.tbz libXft-2.=
1.7_1.tbz libdrm-2.0.2.tbz libiconv-1.9.2_2.tbz libtool-1.5.22_2.tbz libxml=
2-2.6.26.tbz m4-1.4.4.tbz p5-XML-Parser-2.34_2.tbz pango-1.14.8.tbz perl-5.=
8.8.tbz pkg-config-0.21.tbz png-1.2.12_1.tbz shared-mime-info-0.19.tbz star=
tup-notification-0.8_3.tbz tiff-3.8.2_1.tbz xorg-fonts-encodings-6.9.0_1.tb=
z xorg-fonts-truetype-6.9.0.tbz xorg-libraries-6.9.0.tbz
RUN_DEPENDS=3Datk-1.12.3.tbz bitstream-vera-1.10_2.tbz cairo-1.2.6.tbz expa=
t-2.0.0_1.tbz fontconfig-2.3.2_6,1.tbz freetype2-2.2.1_1.tbz gettext-0.14.5=
_2.tbz glib-2.12.4.tbz gtk-2.10.6_2.tbz hicolor-icon-theme-0.9_2.tbz jpeg-6=
b_4.tbz libXft-2.1.7_1.tbz libdrm-2.0.2.tbz libiconv-1.9.2_2.tbz libxml2-2.=
6.26.tbz pango-1.14.8.tbz perl-5.8.8.tbz pkg-config-0.21.tbz png-1.2.12_1.t=
bz shared-mime-info-0.19.tbz startup-notification-0.8_3.tbz tiff-3.8.2_1.tb=
z xorg-fonts-encodings-6.9.0_1.tbz xorg-fonts-truetype-6.9.0.tbz xorg-libra=
ries-6.9.0.tbz
prefixes: LOCALBASE=3Dusr/local X11BASE=3Dusr/xorg
add_pkg
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D<phase 1: make =
checksum>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
=3D> libwnck-2.16.2.tar.bz2 doesn't seem to exist in /tmp/distfiles/gnome2.
=3D> Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp-master.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/port=
s/distfiles/gnome2/.
fetch: ftp://ftp-master.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/distfiles/gnome2/libw=
nck-2.16.2.tar.bz2: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access)
=3D> Attempting to fetch from ftp://pointyhat.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/distf=
iles/gnome2/.
fetch: ftp://pointyhat.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/distfiles/gnome2/libwnck-2.1=
6.2.tar.bz2: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access)
=3D> Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.belnet.be/mirror/ftp.gnome.org/sour=
ces/libwnck/2.16/.
libwnck-2.16.2.tar.bz2                                 456 kB  266 kBps
=3D> MD5 Checksum OK for gnome2/libwnck-2.16.2.tar.bz2.
=3D> SHA256 Checksum OK for gnome2/libwnck-2.16.2.tar.bz2.
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D<phase 2: make =
extract>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
add_pkg
=3D=3D=3D>  Extracting for libwnck-2.16.2
=3D> MD5 Checksum OK for gnome2/libwnck-2.16.2.tar.bz2.
=3D> SHA256 Checksum OK for gnome2/libwnck-2.16.2.tar.bz2.
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D<phase 3: make =
patch>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
add_pkg libtool-1.5.22_2.tbz
adding dependencies
pkg_add libtool-1.5.22_2.tbz
=3D=3D=3D>  Patching for libwnck-2.16.2
=3D=3D=3D>   libwnck-2.16.2 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/libtool - found
Deleting libtool-1.5.22_2
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D<phase 4: make =
build>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
add_pkg atk-1.12.3.tbz bison-1.75_2,1.tbz bitstream-vera-1.10_2.tbz cairo-1=
.2.6.tbz expat-2.0.0_1.tbz fontconfig-2.3.2_6,1.tbz freetype2-2.2.1_1.tbz g=
ettext-0.14.5_2.tbz glib-2.12.4.tbz gmake-3.81_1.tbz gtk-2.10.6_2.tbz hicol=
or-icon-theme-0.9_2.tbz intltool-0.35.0.tbz jpeg-6b_4.tbz libXft-2.1.7_1.tb=
z libdrm-2.0.2.tbz libiconv-1.9.2_2.tbz libtool-1.5.22_2.tbz libxml2-2.6.26=
.tbz m4-1.4.4.tbz p5-XML-Parser-2.34_2.tbz pango-1.14.8.tbz perl-5.8.8.tbz =
pkg-config-0.21.tbz png-1.2.12_1.tbz shared-mime-info-0.19.tbz startup-noti=
fication-0.8_3.tbz tiff-3.8.2_1.tbz xorg-fonts-encodings-6.9.0_1.tbz xorg-f=
onts-truetype-6.9.0.tbz xorg-libraries-6.9.0.tbz
adding dependencies
pkg_add atk-1.12.3.tbz
Removing stale symlinks from /usr/bin...
    Skipping /usr/bin/perl
    Skipping /usr/bin/perl5
Done.
Creating various symlinks in /usr/bin...
    Symlinking /usr/local/bin/perl5.8.8 to /usr/bin/perl
    Symlinking /usr/local/bin/perl5.8.8 to /usr/bin/perl5
Done.
Cleaning up /etc/make.conf... Done.
Spamming /etc/make.conf... Done.
Cleaning up /etc/manpath.config... Done.
Spamming /etc/manpath.config... Done.
pkg_add bison-1.75_2,1.tbz
pkg_add bitstream-vera-1.10_2.tbz
Running fc-cache to build fontconfig cache...
fc-cache: "/usr/xorg/lib/X11/fonts": caching, 0 fonts, 1 dirs
fc-cache: "/usr/xorg/lib/X11/fonts/local": caching, 0 fonts, 0 dirs
fc-cache: "/root/.fonts": skipping, no such directory
fc-cache: succeeded
/usr/xorg/bin/fc-cache: "lib/X11/fonts/bitstream-vera": caching, 10 fonts, =
0 dirs
/usr/xorg/bin/fc-cache: succeeded

IMPORTANT - READ CAREFULLY: Please read the COPYRIGHT included with these f=
onts
before using.  The copyright can be found at /usr/xorg/lib/X11/fonts/bitstr=
eam-vera/COPYRIGHT.TXT.  To
use these fonts, follow the instructions below.

Make sure that the freetype module is loaded.  If it is not, add the follow=
ing
line to the "Modules" section of your X Windows configuration file:

	Load "freetype"

Add the following line to the "Files" section of X Windows configuration fi=
le:

	FontPath "/usr/xorg/lib/X11/fonts/bitstream-vera/"

Note: your X Windows configuration file is typically /etc/X11/XF86Config
if you are using XFree86, and /etc/X11/xorg.conf if you are using X.Org.

pkg_add cairo-1.2.6.tbz
pkg_add expat-2.0.0_1.tbz
skipping expat-2.0.0_1, already added
pkg_add fontconfig-2.3.2_6,1.tbz
skipping fontconfig-2.3.2_6,1, already added
pkg_add freetype2-2.2.1_1.tbz
skipping freetype2-2.2.1_1, already added
pkg_add gettext-0.14.5_2.tbz
skipping gettext-0.14.5_2, already added
pkg_add glib-2.12.4.tbz
skipping glib-2.12.4, already added
pkg_add gmake-3.81_1.tbz
pkg_add gtk-2.10.6_2.tbz
***
* Updating MIME database in /usr/xorg/share/mime...
Wrote 0 strings at 20 - 20
Wrote aliases at 20 - 24
Wrote parents at 24 - 28
Wrote literal globs at 28 - 2c
Wrote suffix globs at 2c - 34
Wrote full globs at 34 - 38
Wrote magic at 38 - 44
Wrote namespace list at 44 - 48
***
***
* Updating MIME database in /usr/local/share/mime...
Wrote 499 strings at 20 - 295c
Wrote aliases at 295c - 2b50
Wrote parents at 2b50 - 354c
Wrote literal globs at 354c - 35a8
Wrote suffix globs at 35a8 - 69b0
Wrote full globs at 69b0 - 69d4
Wrote magic at 69d4 - c2fc
Wrote namespace list at c2fc - c30c
***
***
* Updating MIME database in /usr/local/share/mime...
Wrote 499 strings at 20 - 295c
Wrote aliases at 295c - 2b50
Wrote parents at 2b50 - 354c
Wrote literal globs at 354c - 35a8
Wrote suffix globs at 35a8 - 69b0
Wrote full globs at 69b0 - 69d4
Wrote magic at 69d4 - c2fc
Wrote namespace list at c2fc - c30c
***
Running fc-cache to build fontconfig cache...
fc-cache: "/usr/xorg/lib/X11/fonts": caching, 0 fonts, 4 dirs
fc-cache: "/usr/xorg/lib/X11/fonts/local": caching, 0 fonts, 0 dirs
fc-cache: "/usr/xorg/lib/X11/fonts/bitstream-vera": caching, 10 fonts, 0 di=
rs
fc-cache: "/usr/xorg/lib/X11/fonts/encodings": caching, 0 fonts, 1 dirs
fc-cache: "/usr/xorg/lib/X11/fonts/encodings/large": caching, 0 fonts, 0 di=
rs
fc-cache: "/usr/xorg/lib/X11/fonts/TTF": caching, 12 fonts, 0 dirs
fc-cache: "/root/.fonts": skipping, no such directory
fc-cache: succeeded
pkg_add hicolor-icon-theme-0.9_2.tbz
skipping hicolor-icon-theme-0.9_2, already added
pkg_add intltool-0.35.0.tbz
pkg_add jpeg-6b_4.tbz
skipping jpeg-6b_4, already added
pkg_add libXft-2.1.7_1.tbz
skipping libXft-2.1.7_1, already added
pkg_add libdrm-2.0.2.tbz
skipping libdrm-2.0.2, already added
pkg_add libiconv-1.9.2_2.tbz
skipping libiconv-1.9.2_2, already added
pkg_add libtool-1.5.22_2.tbz
pkg_add libxml2-2.6.26.tbz
skipping libxml2-2.6.26, already added
pkg_add m4-1.4.4.tbz
skipping m4-1.4.4, already added
pkg_add p5-XML-Parser-2.34_2.tbz
skipping p5-XML-Parser-2.34_2, already added
pkg_add pango-1.14.8.tbz
skipping pango-1.14.8, already added
pkg_add perl-5.8.8.tbz
skipping perl-5.8.8, already added
pkg_add pkg-config-0.21.tbz
skipping pkg-config-0.21, already added
pkg_add png-1.2.12_1.tbz
skipping png-1.2.12_1, already added
pkg_add shared-mime-info-0.19.tbz
skipping shared-mime-info-0.19, already added
pkg_add startup-notification-0.8_3.tbz
pkg_add tiff-3.8.2_1.tbz
skipping tiff-3.8.2_1, already added
pkg_add xorg-fonts-encodings-6.9.0_1.tbz
skipping xorg-fonts-encodings-6.9.0_1, already added
pkg_add xorg-fonts-truetype-6.9.0.tbz
skipping xorg-fonts-truetype-6.9.0, already added
pkg_add xorg-libraries-6.9.0.tbz
skipping xorg-libraries-6.9.0, already added
=3D=3D=3D>   libwnck-2.16.2 depends on executable in : gmake - found
=3D=3D=3D>   libwnck-2.16.2 depends on executable in : bison - found
=3D=3D=3D>   libwnck-2.16.2 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/libtool - found
=3D=3D=3D>   libwnck-2.16.2 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/intltool-extrac=
t - found
=3D=3D=3D>   libwnck-2.16.2 depends on executable in : pkg-config - found
=3D=3D=3D>   libwnck-2.16.2 depends on shared library: startup-notification=
-1.0 - found
=3D=3D=3D>   libwnck-2.16.2 depends on shared library: intl - found
=3D=3D=3D>   libwnck-2.16.2 depends on shared library: atk-1.0.0 - found
=3D=3D=3D>   libwnck-2.16.2 depends on shared library: glib-2.0.0 - found
=3D=3D=3D>   libwnck-2.16.2 depends on shared library: gtk-x11-2.0.0 - found
=3D=3D=3D>   libwnck-2.16.2 depends on shared library: pango-1.0.0 - found
=3D=3D=3D>  Configuring for libwnck-2.16.2
checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c -o root -g whe=
el
checking whether build environment is sane... yes
checking for gawk... no
checking for mawk... no
checking for nawk... nawk
checking whether gmake sets $(MAKE)... yes
checking whether to enable maintainer-specific portions of Makefiles... no
checking for intltool >=3D 0.35.0... 0.35.0 found
checking for perl... /usr/bin/perl
checking for XML::Parser... ok
checking for iconv... /usr/local/bin/iconv
checking for msgfmt... /usr/local/bin/msgfmt
checking for msgmerge... /usr/local/bin/msgmerge
checking for xgettext... /usr/local/bin/xgettext
checking for gcc... cc
checking for C compiler default output file name... a.out
checking whether the C compiler works... yes
checking whether we are cross compiling... no
checking for suffix of executables...=20
checking for suffix of object files... o
checking whether we are using the GNU C compiler... yes
checking whether cc accepts -g... yes
checking for cc option to accept ANSI C... none needed
checking for style of include used by gmake... GNU
checking dependency style of cc... gcc3
checking for strerror in -lcposix... no
checking how to run the C preprocessor... cc -E
checking for egrep... grep -E
checking for ANSI C header files... yes
checking build system type... i386-portbld-freebsd6.2
checking host system type... i386-portbld-freebsd6.2
checking for a sed that does not truncate output... /usr/bin/sed
checking for ld used by cc... /usr/bin/ld
checking if the linker (/usr/bin/ld) is GNU ld... yes
checking for /usr/bin/ld option to reload object files... -r
checking for BSD-compatible nm... /usr/bin/nm -B
checking whether ln -s works... yes
checking how to recognise dependent libraries... pass_all
checking for sys/types.h... yes
checking for sys/stat.h... yes
checking for stdlib.h... yes
checking for string.h... yes
checking for memory.h... yes
checking for strings.h... yes
checking for inttypes.h... yes
checking for stdint.h... yes
checking for unistd.h... yes
checking dlfcn.h usability... yes
checking dlfcn.h presence... yes
checking for dlfcn.h... yes
checking whether we are using the GNU C++ compiler... yes
checking whether c++ accepts -g... yes
checking dependency style of c++... gcc3
checking how to run the C++ preprocessor... c++ -E
checking for g77... no
checking for f77... f77
checking whether we are using the GNU Fortran 77 compiler... yes
checking whether f77 accepts -g... yes
checking the maximum length of command line arguments... (cached) 262144
checking command to parse /usr/bin/nm -B output from cc object... ok
checking for objdir... .libs
checking for ar... ar
checking for ranlib... ranlib
checking for strip... strip
checking if cc supports -fno-rtti -fno-exceptions... no
checking for cc option to produce PIC... -fPIC
checking if cc PIC flag -fPIC works... yes
checking if cc static flag -static works... yes
checking if cc supports -c -o file.o... yes
checking whether the cc linker (/usr/bin/ld) supports shared libraries... y=
es
checking whether -lc should be explicitly linked in... yes
checking dynamic linker characteristics... freebsd6.2 ld.so
checking how to hardcode library paths into programs... immediate
checking whether stripping libraries is possible... yes
checking if libtool supports shared libraries... yes
checking whether to build shared libraries... yes
checking whether to build static libraries... yes
configure: creating libtool
appending configuration tag "CXX" to libtool
checking for ld used by c++... /usr/bin/ld
checking if the linker (/usr/bin/ld) is GNU ld... yes
checking whether the c++ linker (/usr/bin/ld) supports shared libraries... =
yes
checking for c++ option to produce PIC... -fPIC
checking if c++ PIC flag -fPIC works... yes
checking if c++ static flag -static works... yes
checking if c++ supports -c -o file.o... yes
checking whether the c++ linker (/usr/bin/ld) supports shared libraries... =
yes
checking dynamic linker characteristics... freebsd6.2 ld.so
checking how to hardcode library paths into programs... immediate
appending configuration tag "F77" to libtool
checking if libtool supports shared libraries... yes
checking whether to build shared libraries... yes
checking whether to build static libraries... yes
checking for f77 option to produce PIC... -fPIC
checking if f77 PIC flag -fPIC works... yes
checking if f77 static flag -static works... yes
checking if f77 supports -c -o file.o... yes
checking whether the f77 linker (/usr/bin/ld) supports shared libraries... =
yes
checking dynamic linker characteristics... freebsd6.2 ld.so
checking how to hardcode library paths into programs... immediate
checking locale.h usability... yes
checking locale.h presence... yes
checking for locale.h... yes
checking for LC_MESSAGES... yes
checking libintl.h usability... yes
checking libintl.h presence... yes
checking for libintl.h... yes
checking for ngettext in libc... no
checking for bindtextdomain in -lintl... yes
checking for ngettext in -lintl... yes
checking for dgettext in -lintl... yes
checking for bind_textdomain_codeset... yes
checking for msgfmt... /usr/local/bin/msgfmt
checking for dcgettext... yes
checking for gmsgfmt... /usr/local/bin/msgfmt
checking for xgettext... /usr/local/bin/xgettext
checking for pkg-config... /usr/local/bin/pkg-config
Building with libstartup-notification
checking for X... no
configure: error: X development libraries not found
=3D=3D=3D>  Script "configure" failed unexpectedly.
Please run the gnomelogalyzer, available from
"http://www.freebsd.org/gnome/gnomelogalyzer.sh", which will diagnose the
problem and suggest a solution. If - and only if - the gnomelogalyzer cannot
solve the problem, report the build failure to the FreeBSD GNOME team at
gnome@FreeBSD.org, and attach (a)
"/work/a/ports/x11-toolkits/libwnck/work/libwnck-2.16.2/config.log", (b) the
output of the failed make command, and (c) the gnomelogalyzer output. Also,
it might be a good idea to provide an overview of all packages installed on
your system (i.e. an `ls /var/db/pkg`). Put your attachment up on any websi=
te,
copy-and-paste into http://freebsd-gnome.pastebin.com, or use send-pr(1) wi=
th
the attachment. Try to avoid sending any attachments to the mailing list
(gnome@FreeBSD.org), because attachments sent to FreeBSD mailing lists are
usually discarded by the mailing list software.
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