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Date:      Mon, 26 Jun 2006 23:37:18 +0200
From:      "M.Hirsch" <M.Hirsch@gmx.de>
To:        Wilko Bulte <wb@freebie.xs4all.nl>
Cc:        freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: FreeBSD 6.x CVSUP today crashes with zero load ...
Message-ID:  <44A0538E.6090906@gmx.de>
In-Reply-To: <20060626212654.GB93703@freebie.xs4all.nl>
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Nope,

I'd like my bank data to be stored on a system that does ECC, no question.
But please, on hard disk level (RAID; that is _permanent_), not in the 
RAM of a single node.

If memory gets corrupted, please, raise a kernel panic... Even if 
there's ECC in place.

Counter question:
Would you like your bank account data to be stored on a medium where one 
failure can be corrected, two can be detected, but three go unnoticed? 
How unlikely is that, if you've got some hardware that is really /broken/?

I know this is a rather random thing to happen.
Still, I think ECC memory is overrated. Better have it fail immediately. 
_With a kernel panic, please_

M.

Wilko Bulte schrieb:

>Balderdash.  
>
>Following your rationale you want your bank account data
>silently be corrupted by hardware with bit errors?  Be my guest, give
>me ECC any day.
>
>Proper hardware will log the ECC errors, a proper OS tailored to that
>hardware will log and notify the sysadmins.
>
>That is how it should be done.
>
>Wilko
>
>  
>




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