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Date:      Thu, 10 Jun 1999 16:32:01 -0400
From:      Tim Vanderhoek <vanderh@ecf.utoronto.ca>
To:        "Ronald F. Guilmette" <rfg@monkeys.com>, sheldonh@FreeBSD.ORG
Cc:        freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: bin/11987: vacation(1) documentation and error logging both suck
Message-ID:  <19990610163201.A1147@mad>
In-Reply-To: <199906101730.KAA65998@freefall.freebsd.org>; from Ronald F. Guilmette on Thu, Jun 10, 1999 at 10:30:01AM -0700
References:  <199906101730.KAA65998@freefall.freebsd.org>

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On Thu, Jun 10, 1999 at 10:30:01AM -0700, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote:
> 
>  >2) The manpage _does_ mention that erorr messages are logged through the
>  >   syslog(3) interface. The manpage has always mentioned this.
>  
>  Hummm... You're right.
>  
>  I still don't see where the specific syslog facility used by the program
>  is mentioned.  That is an _important_ bit of data.  (The facility used
>  for logging is the "user" facility.)

Actually, when we had our first little email exchange, I went glanced
through the source and I seem to recall that it doesn't even use the
"user" facility consistently.

Anyways, I'll reopen the PR and assign it to myself in a moment.  I
can't promise you that I'll get to it anytime soon...

FWIW, Ronald, I think it was the wording, not the content, of your
bugreport that caused both me, sheldonh, and probably a lot of other
readers, to have more-or-less the same reaction.  Phrases "XXX
should be done" are the type that usually need to have their words
backed-up with code.

More generally, we really do need a different PR state for PRs that
have a fairly obvious solution that just needs to get coded.  This
would give us something better to point at next time some random
person with unknown qualifications asks on the lists "Hi!  What can I
do to help FreeBSD".  TBH, I have yet to see a list of this type
actually succeed, but...

Sheldon, since your the PR-guy of the moment...  Suggestions?  :-)


[Maybe a webpage?  Maybe assign some problems to "userland
_improvements_"?  I think what's been done with the ports and docs prs
has worked reasonably well.]


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