From owner-freebsd-chat Sat May 5 20:27:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mail.xmission.com (mail.xmission.com [198.60.22.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EE4837B422 for ; Sat, 5 May 2001 20:27:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rootman@xmission.com) Received: from [166.70.7.49] (helo=blackmirror.xmission.com) by mail.xmission.com with smtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 14wFCV-0007tP-00; Sat, 05 May 2001 21:27:15 -0600 From: Joe Warner Organization: Daemon News To: Brett Glass , "G. Adam Stanislav" , chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Is Brett Glass to easy on RMS? Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 21:16:50 -0600 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.28] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" References: <3.0.6.32.20010505194927.00875100@mail85.pair.com> <4.3.2.7.2.20010505205342.00c3d2a0@localhost> In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20010505205342.00c3d2a0@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01050521265200.00648@blackmirror.xmission.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, 05 May 2001, Brett Glass wrote: > At 07:29 PM 5/5/2001, Joe Warner wrote: > > >I'm by no means defending RMS but why would he want to do > >this? What's his motivation? > > Joe, have you ever read the book "Hackers," by Steven Levy? Not yet. > > Levy does an excellent job of documenting the events that led > to RMS' vendetta. There are a couple of significant events in RMS' > life that are NOT included because they happened later... RMS' > nervous breakdown, for example, which happened a few years > after the book was written. But the events in the book > laid the groundwork for his monomaniacal drive to destroy > all commercial software companies and programmers. I read it > the same year I first encountered RMS (who was, at the time, > living in the apartment of an acquaintance). It explained a > LOT, though it still didn't prepare me for some of the more > vehement things RMS said during our first conversation. Sounds interesting. I'll have to get a copy and read it. > > >Also, and this may be off topic but more and more lately, I've > >noticed the ugly head of Linux vs BSD and vice versa popping > >up on the web. I realize it's something that's gone on for a long > >time but..why? Why isn't it BSD/Linux vs MS? > > I think that this depends on the forum. In forums such as > Slashdot, where contempt for Microsoft's products is nearly > universal, we see a lot of Linux vs. BSD debates. In the > rest of the world, it's vs. MS. Folks who > are not programmers do not understand either the licensing > or technological differences among the UNIX-like OSes.... > It's all over their heads. I hear you but IMO, whether it's BSD or Linux, we're all part of the Open Source community and I think it's high time to bury the hatchet. This rings especially true to me after re-reading Craig Mundie's speech that condemns aspects of Open Source. I get more agitated each time I read it. Regards Joe > > --Brett > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message -- Joe Warner Daemon News Bringing BSD Together Daemon News E-Zine http://www.daemonnews.org Daily Daemon News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ Print Magazine http://magazine.daemonnews.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message