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Date:      Sun, 29 Sep 1996 20:19:14 +0200 (MET DST)
From:      Andreas Klemm <andreas@klemm.gtn.com>
To:        "Eric L. Hernes" <erich@lodgenet.com>
Cc:        ports@freefall.freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: ports/net/tkined Makefile
Message-ID:  <XFMail.960929202524.andreas@klemm.gtn.com>
In-Reply-To: <199609291725.MAA24688@jake.lodgenet.com>

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On 29-Sep-96 "Eric L. Hernes" wrote:
>
>My /usr/local is so incredibly cluttered, I'm scheduled
>to re-install the whole machine from scratch, probably the first
>part of next week, I've gotta burn the thing to CD first.

Did that also, as I wrote ...

>I think I'll try using a nonstandard prefix for the ports, so
>I can separate true local stuff from the ports collection.

Or you separate true local stuff to /local/....

Filesystem  1K-blocks     Used    Avail Capacity  Mounted on
/dev/sd0a       31775    11402    17831    39%    /
/dev/sd0s3e     63567    34777    23705    59%    /www
/dev/sd0s3f    127151    14321   102658    12%    /var
/dev/sd0s3g    765058   374214   329640    53%    /usr
/dev/sd1s1e    193855    79685    98662    45%    /news
/dev/sd1s1f   1790627  1282181   365196    78%    /local

Look here, I have a complete /local hierarchie ...
But it's only for such things...

total 42
drwxrwxr-x  6 root     wheel      512 29 Sep 15:53 CVS
drwxr-xr-x  5 root     daemon     512 24 Aug 12:32 accounts
drwxrwxr-x  4 andreas  andreas    512 24 Aug 12:32 audio
drwxrwxr-x  3 root     wheel      512 24 Aug 12:32 compat
drwxrwxr-x  5 andreas  andreas  14848 29 Sep 19:10 distfiles
dr-xr-xr-x  5 root     wheel      512 24 Aug 12:33 ftp
drwxrwxr-x  3 andreas  andreas  18944 24 Aug 12:34 images
drwxrwxr-x  3 root     wheel      512 24 Aug 12:34 lost+found
drwxrwxr-x  4 root     wheel      512 27 Sep 23:52 obj
drwxr-xr-x  3 root     wheel      512 15 Sep 13:47 release

The ports collection fits my needs concerning local programs...

>as you noted in another mail, the last one installed gets it's version of
>/usr/local/include/{tcl,tk}.h as official.  I've always hated the way that
>works, but I've never been able to come up with a better way.

It's difficult to find a satisfactory solution...

> The header and
>the library are really a matched set, but only the library is versioned.  I
>guess a person could have tcl.h installed as tcl73.h tcl74.h tcl75.h and tk.h
>similarily.  Then have the ports that need specific versions include the
>proper header, but that gets pretty messy.  

Yes, better keep it. as it is ... I hope, people will migrate to
new tcl/tk stuff, so that old versions can be removed and I hope
the 'father of tcl/tk' has already all new features incorporated in
his current libs, so that one could hope, that every new tcl/tk
stuff is backward compatible ...

>OTOH, you could argue that it's already pretty messy :(  

No, I wouldn't argue that way...

>Comments and better ideas are always welcome.

Yeah, but have none ..

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