From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Jul 26 11:16:25 1995 Return-Path: hackers-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.11/8.6.6) id LAA04222 for hackers-outgoing; Wed, 26 Jul 1995 11:16:25 -0700 Received: from mercury.Sun.COM (mercury.Sun.COM [192.9.25.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id LAA04210 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 1995 11:16:21 -0700 Received: from Eng.Sun.COM by mercury.Sun.COM (Sun.COM) id LAA09880; Wed, 26 Jul 1995 11:15:03 -0700 Received: from plokta.Eng.Sun.COM by Eng.Sun.COM (5.x/SMI-5.3) id AA28765; Wed, 26 Jul 1995 11:14:58 -0700 Received: by plokta.Eng.Sun.COM (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA08617; Wed, 26 Jul 1995 11:14:41 -0700 Date: Wed, 26 Jul 1995 11:14:41 -0700 Message-Id: <9507261814.AA08617@plokta.Eng.Sun.COM> From: "Bryan O'Sullivan" To: eyfarris@gdwest.gd.com (Eblan Y Farris) Cc: hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Plan9 - a salutory tale In-Reply-To: <9507260355.AA11554@gdwest.gd.com> References: <9507260355.AA11554@gdwest.gd.com> Sender: hackers-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk e> Does it come with an Xwindow environment [...] The default Plan 9 windowing system, 8 1/2, is not in any way compatible with X. However, Plan 9 does offer the possibility of running X in an 8 1/2 window. e> [...] and WebBrowser [...] Not so far as I know. It does have TCP/IP networking, though, so you should be able to run Mosaic from another machine with the display set to your Plan 9 machine. It also has Unix emulation libraries, but it doesn't come with Motif libraries, so you won't be able to recompile Mosaic or Athena. Even getting something like Tk compiled would probably be a lot of pain and, well, that's not what Plan 9 was meant for, anyway. As to whether there is anything FreeBSD can learn from Plan 9, I don't think so. I think that the evolution of Unix away from a Version 7esque spartan set of functionality has been a Good Thing for people who want to get actual work done (as opposed to research), and Rob Pike's philosophy is firmly in the Version 7 mould -- not something to emulate, in other words.