From owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 26 17:51:45 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: net@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1948C106566C; Mon, 26 May 2008 17:51:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wjw@digiware.nl) Received: from mail.digiware.nl (www.tegenbosch28.nl [217.21.251.97]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B589C8FC1C; Mon, 26 May 2008 17:51:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wjw@digiware.nl) Received: from localhost (localhost.digiware.nl [127.0.0.1]) by mail.digiware.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11C0E17394; Mon, 26 May 2008 19:21:30 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at digiware.nl Received: from mail.digiware.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (rack1.digiware.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id lg+ou8gvjXwu; Mon, 26 May 2008 19:21:25 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.2.10] (unknown [192.168.2.10]) by mail.digiware.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 285D31738B; Mon, 26 May 2008 19:21:24 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <483AF194.2020002@digiware.nl> Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 19:21:24 +0200 From: Willem Jan Withagen Organization: Digiware User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Windows/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Steve Kargl References: <20080524111715.T64552@fledge.watson.org> <1211640498.1510.8.camel@localhost> <20080524165519.K9809@fledge.watson.org> <20080525105726.O39741@fledge.watson.org> <5D4AF8D7-88A7-4197-A0FE-7CA992EE5F96@FreeBSD.org> <20080526163844.GA37636@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> In-Reply-To: <20080526163844.GA37636@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: arch@freebsd.org, Robert Watson , current@freebsd.org, Ade Lovett , net@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HEAD UP: non-MPSAFE network drivers to be disabled X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 17:51:45 -0000 Steve Kargl wrote: > On Mon, May 26, 2008 at 05:34:09AM -0700, Ade Lovett wrote: >> idiosyncratic situations (yes, ahc(4), I'm looking at you) for 5+ > > What's the problem with ahc(4)? My ahc controller is one of > the most reliable pieces of hardware that I've purchased. > It's also the only interface available to my external DLT > tape drive. Not to forget the large amount of embedded ahc's that got implemented on all kinds of serverbords. I still have quite a large set of customers with such ASUS boards I sold to them over the years. Up 'till now I've been able to keep 'm running with the pace of FreeBSD. Removing this driver would "leave them behind". I can force them to upgrade, but thus far there has been little reason for that (hardware wise). Just my 2 ct's --WjW