From owner-freebsd-current Wed Oct 13 9: 9: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from wall.polstra.com (rtrwan160.accessone.com [206.213.115.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8506B14D9D for ; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 09:09:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Received: from vashon.polstra.com (vashon.polstra.com [206.213.73.13]) by wall.polstra.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA09563; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 09:09:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) From: John Polstra Received: (from jdp@localhost) by vashon.polstra.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id JAA04461; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 09:09:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 09:09:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199910131609.JAA04461@vashon.polstra.com> To: avalon@coombs.anu.edu.au Subject: Re: ipfilter no longer in -CURRENT, whats the direction? (off to ipfw?) In-Reply-To: <199910131302.XAA05892@cheops.anu.edu.au> References: <199910131302.XAA05892@cheops.anu.edu.au> Organization: Polstra & Co., Seattle, WA Cc: current@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In article <199910131302.XAA05892@cheops.anu.edu.au>, Darren Reed wrote: > Well, if someone had of answered my question (to cvs-committers) > about getting an account fixed up on freefall(?) so I could use > cvs again, it might not have been forgotten about for quite so > long. Maybe I sent the question to the "wrong place", but I > received no answer to even indicate that! hmpf! You gave up too easily. Do you think we're some kind of finely tuned engine over here? Send your mail again to root@freebsd.org, and nag them every 3 days until your account is fixed. (Don't bother nagging next week, as everybody will be at FreeBSDCon.) > On a conspirital note, I think there are numerous ipfw advocates > within freebsd who hate that ipfilter is better >;-) I don't think that's it. The fact is, ipfilter was in terrible shape in our source tree. Nobody had done a thing with it since June of 1998. From what I heard, it didn't even work reliably under 3.x. (Did it even compile?) Some of its source files were duplicated in "src/contrib/ipfilter" and "src/sys/netinet", with different versions of the files in the two places. Working on it was basically a nightmare. I know because I did work on it for a client of mine. I'm a big proponent of ipfilter's features. I'd love to see it come back if it were really going to be cleaned up and kept maintained. John -- John Polstra jdp@polstra.com John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA "No matter how cynical I get, I just can't keep up." -- Nora Ephron To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message