From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Mar 2 22:18:54 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4D14552DBA for ; Tue, 2 Mar 2021 22:18:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dewayne@heuristicsystems.com.au) Received: from hermes.heuristicsystems.com.au (hermes.heuristicsystems.com.au [203.41.22.115]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2560 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "hermes.heuristicsystems.com.au", Issuer "Heuristic Systems Type 4 Host CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4Dqs3c6DNgz3hZ8 for ; Tue, 2 Mar 2021 22:18:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dewayne@heuristicsystems.com.au) Received: from [10.0.5.3] (noddy.hs [10.0.5.3]) (authenticated bits=0) by hermes.heuristicsystems.com.au (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id 122MH9U3048165 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 3 Mar 2021 09:17:09 +1100 (AEDT) (envelope-from dewayne@heuristicsystems.com.au) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=heuristicsystems.com.au; s=hsa; t=1614723429; x=1615328230; bh=W5WV6ckCm+uKbUsoxWOfw3pFTWQo4agsKc4W40XfFMU=; h=Subject:To:From:Message-ID:Date; b=JyhNeizL30I0M4IKLBP0aPAApB0wLmMCeIo0tZwCaiYEw5GOq0t7nBKKsyZAJTnij vb/3DGA0J/xoL03x1lucrTGUeayJvNkiojR4ymoZgWCJDRfGLb8wsroGsrQQXatbYG FqZVeN8FKfmr6Xlh7g61RaM2jStQzJunV04Hkf9oJF+hxgwEQnRKo X-Authentication-Warning: b3.hs: Host noddy.hs [10.0.5.3] claimed to be [10.0.5.3] Subject: Re: 13.0-RELEASE-BETA4 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20210301175803.4fb29aa0@dismail.de> <912de0ca-fb7c-f998-17f5-bf64ffbe41b0@holgerdanske.com> From: Dewayne Geraghty Message-ID: Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2021 09:17:07 +1100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.5.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-GB Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4Dqs3c6DNgz3hZ8 X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=heuristicsystems.com.au header.s=hsa header.b=JyhNeizL; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of dewayne@heuristicsystems.com.au designates 203.41.22.115 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=dewayne@heuristicsystems.com.au X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.85 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; HAS_XAW(0.00)[]; RCVD_DKIM_ARC_DNSWL_MED(-0.50)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED(-0.20)[203.41.22.115:from]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[heuristicsystems.com.au:+]; SUBJ_ALL_CAPS(1.35)[18]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:1221, ipnet:203.40.0.0/13, country:AU]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[heuristicsystems.com.au:s=hsa]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_MED(-2.00)[heuristicsystems.com.au:dkim]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[heuristicsystems.com.au]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2021 22:18:54 -0000 On 3/03/2021 6:47 am, Steven Friedrich wrote: > > On 3/2/2021 1:57 PM, Antonio Olivares wrote: >> On Mon, Mar 1, 2021 at 10:24 PM David Christensen >> wrote: >>> On 3/1/21 5:35 PM, Antonio Olivares wrote: >>>> On Monday, March 1, 2021, LuMiWa wrote: >>>>> On Mon, 1 Mar 2021 16:04:45 -0600 >>>>> Antonio Olivares wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Dear kind FreeBSD users, >>>>>> >>>>>> how to we update from source to 13.0-RELEASE-BETA4? >>>>>> >>>>>> I tried with freebsd-fetch -r upgrade 13.0-RELEASE-BETA4 >>>>>> but it fails to start. >>>>>> now I can login, but system is not working correctly.  I tried to >>>>>> rollback, and rerun command but it fails. >>>> https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-snapshots/2021-February/000826.html >>>> >>>> Thank you Sir, I have tried >>>> # freebsd-update -r upgrade 13.0-RELEASE-BETA4 >>>> >>>> But it did not work.  I wanted to fix my broken installation from >>>> source. >>>> But there was a move to git? I have not done source updates since >>>> 8.2/9.0 >>>> -RELEASE >>> >>> I want a FreeBSD version that "just works", so I use 12.2-RELEASE. >>> Follow the links to download a suitable installer from here: >>> >>>       https://www.freebsd.org/releases/12.2R/announce/ >>> >>> >>> 13.0-BETA4 is still under development.  If you want to help test it, >>> follow the link provided by LuMiWa and download a suitable installer >>> from here: >>> >>>       https://download.freebsd.org/ftp/releases/ISO-IMAGES/13.0/ >>> >>> >>> Burn your chosen installer to media: >>> >>>       https://docs.freebsd.org/en/books/handbook/bsdinstall/#bsdinstall- >>> pre >>> >>> >>> Backup the system in question, remove the system drive, install a blank >>> system drive, and do a fresh install. >>> >>> >>> Select the components you want during installation, such as "src" and/or >>> "ports": >>> >>>       >>> https://docs.freebsd.org/en/books/handbook/bsdinstall/#using-bsdinstall >>> >>> >>> Once FreeBSD is installed, use freebsd-update(8) to keep FreeBSD up >>> to date: >>> >>> >>> https://docs.freebsd.org/en/books/handbook/cutting-edge/#updating-upgrading-freebsdupdate >>> >>> >>> >>> David >>> _______________________________________________ >>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >>> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> @all who have replied >> The new commands to build from source are no longer svn/svn lite >> we now need to use git. ... >> >> Antonio > You are incorrect.  I am using svnlite to track base/releng/12.2 For clarity, there is a feed from git to svn for 12, which has a a slight timing lag. svn will continue until 12 EOL, so there is time to transition. 13 and onward will use git as primary. git is source of truth, which may be viewed here (You'll note in the top-right switch tab that I have selected "stable/12"). https://cgit.freebsd.org/src/log/?h=stable/12 This mailing list is also authoritative (again I'm tracking 12 stable via the branches) https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/dev-commits-src-branches/2021-March/thread.html Note that this is not a 1-1 mapping of things like https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/svn-src-stable-12/ as there is now a concept of vendor (aka /usr/src/contrib). So you'll need to track those things separately as well, I believe. As I only use 12, I am unsure if a git pull of stable/12 includes the vendor changes or not, perhaps someone with experience could enlighten? For completeness Unfortunately this appears defunct, https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/svn-src-stable-12/ though easier to read than searching for /12 in dev-commits-src-...