From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jun 16 14:27:15 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9EE933BC67 for ; Tue, 16 Jun 2020 14:27:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: from mail-il1-x12f.google.com (mail-il1-x12f.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::12f]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49mVry1xWrz45M9 for ; Tue, 16 Jun 2020 14:27:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: by mail-il1-x12f.google.com with SMTP id h3so18973757ilh.13 for ; Tue, 16 Jun 2020 07:27:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=sc2E+9tHzvgaH/liRYV58QvoktO6ax0nPOLZ1hpi1PA=; b=Cl+QHUh3bEo9dlAcJDcVS0z5XRC05ijSdVOSqe1OF3YtswwgyJ8tZ0pOddnubcPCWR ewswRgmhFI+Q9cf7kQRCaAa7sAo9vGsy8bWFU++NSBpERy0uHcW883eR+qf/WXfD7wNE 4FvluYIIlG7FwyPGBvqjdQeohDFfoVYNogNbcUGNhiG1ACYrCz9c22NWsbcVvg31VuGC WqtqpuzFYyVJn+rEd422ToFC8pJmM4w5I2vKsbhvHo+Q6Nu4rkDwm8rTfk8h9/0KQWZl K40KQ7o5u4akjup6xJkUYD0mN40IHxQJ8jGKIEvW3kB8i5j6n6fbU1L8V2xSmQ2GZFqo MWmg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=sc2E+9tHzvgaH/liRYV58QvoktO6ax0nPOLZ1hpi1PA=; b=tBm1v1ZL8jWKjL2cP2Xt+aPNl/rNrviqwP5wyXVx6Zsh0meWXMAZs8LiEtJ6oKYimc s/O3f8FGoRkDIXHbESnkKuYGuR72lqiKWXMaYzbUdBaUIQGCnsVCuAPgP66Z/C1pdUUD xzS6x0Z9tZ5EzgjwDAO1FD0adMMSkLmWZd3PwtcZJGuQjufbQL30hDyoCdErQqwSbjul HGNtJA1woKRqJ7v9ZISikJBxLA2nz6drz2nDIctir0hXm8IYevWZrXRfcwUerlFCLVlW shUh6IxY2aDOHk8ZuUt12b17w3husU59Pre+IbPsUC/a7+MIVZxtz0Pv4Y86qF/qx//U mPMA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532Ug7JDuG0KSnW8XHxFtysU+ezl5EiQsUl0DYYi3ddAJGKGVmsF zQsPrSWVfTj75/07KHTphVr7uXSagkc0wMGm/gzbhuqX X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwTMX8WTv5HBAmUTyLHzoLK+7Dk95jStj359DUTWUrrmC/7tXdjxYHc/J0eZWpBqNSENAnw6tniMo73eUOIXpY= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6e02:10c:: with SMTP id t12mr3301646ilm.187.1592317633488; Tue, 16 Jun 2020 07:27:13 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20200613154409.GA89618@neutralgood.org> <13115.1592302784@segfault.tristatelogic.com> <20200616071153.00006f4d@seibercom.net> <20200616075548.000066f1@seibercom.net> <20200616140416.bd7b8bf2.freebsd@edvax.de> <20200616142043.7d599458.freebsd@edvax.de> <20200616092901.000002f7@seibercom.net> In-Reply-To: From: Aryeh Friedman Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2020 10:27:01 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Mailing List Etiquette was freebsd vs. netbsd To: Chris Knipe Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49mVry1xWrz45M9 X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=Cl+QHUh3; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of aryehfriedman@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::12f as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=aryehfriedman@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.15 / 15.00]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com:dkim]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.05)[-1.052]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::12f:from]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.10)[-0.100]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.33 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2020 14:27:15 -0000 On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 10:02 AM Chris Knipe wrote: > > > On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 3:56 PM Aryeh Friedman > wrote: > > >> More like it has been fire tested to hell and back and passes with flying >> colors where newer stuff can't always make that claim. >> > > I bet they said the same about SSL1.0 / SSL2.0, or WPA, or well, take your > pick... :-) > > Even medical technologies, envolve at a rapid, rapid pace... The MAX had > nothing to do with 80x25 text, neither does a heart monitor. > It doesn't evolve as fast you *THINK* it does for example our system supports over 200 different doctor offices/practices and about 10% still use Windows XP at 1024x768 and *REFUSE* to move to anything newer even after being told that using anything older than Windows 8 is an automatic HIPAA violation (DHS OCR [the office that oversees HIPAA enforcement] has said anything that lacks active vendor support is an automatic violation). About another 20% use Windows 7 and also refuse to upgrade. The console for the monitors (rarely used directly by anyone except for us the programmers) is 24x80 via a USB connector. So yes such screen sizes are an issue for us. -- Aryeh M. Friedman, Lead Developer, http://www.PetiteCloud.org