From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 3 22:43:48 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B0EC1065675 for ; Wed, 3 Sep 2008 22:43:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danallen46@airwired.net) Received: from mail.utahbroadband.com (mail.utahbroadband.com [204.14.20.91]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3F688FC14 for ; Wed, 3 Sep 2008 22:43:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danallen46@airwired.net) Received: (qmail 25094 invoked by uid 89); 3 Sep 2008 22:10:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.0.16?) (danallen46@airwired.net@66.29.174.6) by 0 with ESMTPA; 3 Sep 2008 22:10:23 -0000 From: Dan Allen To: Steven Hartland In-Reply-To: X-Priority: 3 References: <35445338-D597-4FE2-996F-DEC7BE986741@airwired.net><48BEEB55.4050406@madpilot.net> Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v926) Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 16:43:45 -0600 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.926) Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Guido Falsi Subject: Re: FreeBSD 7.1 Content X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2008 22:43:48 -0000 On 3 Sep 2008, at 3:11 PM, Steven Hartland wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Allen" > > >> I too spend the time. I am thinking that for other people to want >> to use FreeBSD they want something other than a command prompt. >> They at least want a web browser out of the box. > > For some, but for others like ourselves here we really don't want all > that bloat. One of the reasons we really like it is its perfect for > server installs, no crap installed that you don't want :) Agreed, but if you go back to earlier versions of FreeBSD they gave you an install option for just binaries, or binaries + sources, or binaries + sources + X Windows. I am proposing something similar once again, but this time if would be enough of X, a small window manager, and Firefox so a basic windowing environment was able to be installed, from the CD, with a single choice. I doubt many developers are really browsing the web all day with lynx. Dan