From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 4 15:40:16 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7792B1065678; Fri, 4 Jul 2008 15:40:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oberman@es.net) Received: from postal1.es.net (postal1.es.net [198.128.3.205]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AFD38FC12; Fri, 4 Jul 2008 15:40:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oberman@es.net) Received: from ptavv.es.net (ptavv.es.net [198.128.4.29]) by postal1.es.net (Postal Node 1) with ESMTP (SSL) id KWS74415; Fri, 04 Jul 2008 08:40:15 -0700 Received: from ptavv.es.net (ptavv.es.net [127.0.0.1]) by ptavv.es.net (Tachyon Server) with ESMTP id D60EE4500E; Fri, 4 Jul 2008 08:40:13 -0700 (PDT) To: "Rob Lytle" In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 03 Jul 2008 21:26:16 PDT." <784966050807032126m69eedb98nf0ccaed548fc96ef@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_1215186013_19456P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2008 08:40:13 -0700 From: "Kevin Oberman" Message-Id: <20080704154013.D60EE4500E@ptavv.es.net> X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 04 Jul 2008 16:11:01 +0000 Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sysinstall is still inadequate after all of these years / sorry I started flame war X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2008 15:40:16 -0000 --==_Exmh_1215186013_19456P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline > Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 21:26:16 -0700 > From: "Rob Lytle" > > Hi Kevin, > > The sysinstall dependency problem has existed for 10 years, so I doubt that > its unique to me. It has occurred in every installation I have ever done. > > I use portupgrade for all ports. > > i strongly disagree with using ports for huge packages. I don't have the > time to waste compiling. Plus, you are presented with numerous nag screens > so you have to babysit the whole process. Please don't top post! I never said that you should build from ports. I said that you should not use sysinstall to install packages. I said that you can copy the packages from the CDs to /usr/ports/packages/All/ and use 'portinstall -P' to install all of them that are still current and to download those that are not. This simply eliminates all of the disc shuffling. If the nag screens annoy you, use BATCH=yes to build ports with default values. That gives you the same build as the package system uses. -- R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: oberman@es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634 Key fingerprint:059B 2DDF 031C 9BA3 14A4 EADA 927D EBB3 987B 3751 --==_Exmh_1215186013_19456P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) Comment: Exmh version 2.5 06/03/2002 iD8DBQFIbkRdkn3rs5h7N1ERAkVIAKC5/YaClS78ClLsjS/1tI7vSQohPwCfQXJX j/nwfprLN28jz6V9qSeXx9M= =jKtZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_1215186013_19456P--