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Date:      Thu, 10 Feb 2000 21:23:29 -0500
From:      "Christopher S. Weimann" <cweimann@wallnet.com>
To:        Olaf Hoyer <ohoyer@fbwi.fh-wilhelmshaven.de>, David Kelly <dkelly@hiwaay.net>
Cc:        freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Why I Don't Do Linux
Message-ID:  <20000210212329.A4718@wallnet.com>
In-Reply-To: <4.1.20000211014526.00cc8730@mail.rz.fh-wilhelmshaven.de>; from Olaf Hoyer on Fri, Feb 11, 2000 at 01:48:29AM %2B0100
References:  <v04220807b4c8f064200f@[10.0.0.20]> <4.1.20000211014526.00cc8730@mail.rz.fh-wilhelmshaven.de>

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On Fri, Feb 11, 2000 at 01:48:29AM +0100, Olaf Hoyer wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> With regards to Richard Stallman... I think I remember some lines where he
> said that in a Lab he worked some party decided to take over all the
> computing power, and he finally got it back by patching the kernel... He
> said he'd not known how to do this on a Linux...
> 

The following is from the info page for su.


Why GNU `su' does not support the `wheel' group
===============================================
 
(This section is by Richard Stallman.)
	  
Sometimes a few of the users try to hold total power over all the
rest.  For example, in 1984, a few users at the MIT AI lab decided to
seize power by changing the operator password on the Twenex system and
keeping it secret from everyone else.  (I was able to thwart this coup
and give power back to the users by patching the kernel, but I wouldn't
know how to do that in Unix.)
			
However, occasionally the rulers do tell someone.  Under the usual
`su' mechanism, once someone learns the root password who sympathizes
with the ordinary users, he or she can tell the rest.  The "wheel
group" feature would make this impossible, and thus cement the power of
the rulers.                                                                     

I'm on the side of the masses, not that of the rulers.  If you are
used to supporting the bosses and sysadmins in whatever they do, you
might find this idea strange at first.
																		 

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