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Date:      Thu, 15 Nov 2007 13:08:03 -0700
From:      Scott Long <scottl@samsco.org>
To:        Robert Watson <rwatson@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        src-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-src@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org, Gleb Smirnoff <glebius@FreeBSD.org>, Julian Elischer <julian@elischer.org>, Steve Kargl <sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu>
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: src/sys/kern kern_kse.c
Message-ID:  <473CA723.9000409@samsco.org>
In-Reply-To: <20071115194710.L82897@fledge.watson.org>
References:  <200711151416.lAFEGKJ6059040@repoman.freebsd.org> <473C865D.8070809@elischer.org> <20071115181401.GA17094@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <473C901F.1080906@elischer.org> <20071115194710.L82897@fledge.watson.org>

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Robert Watson wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 15 Nov 2007, Julian Elischer wrote:
> 
>>>> "no matter how small the change, use diff + patch to move it across."
>>>
>>> After applying the patch on your commit machine, is it too difficult 
>>> to actually retest before committing?  This would catch the broken 
>>> commit before it becomes a Tinderbox issue.
>>>
>>> Seems to be a QA problem on your part.
>>
>> yes.. but I can't do a compile from my mac. (my commit machine). The 
>> answer is to be rigorous about how I move the patch from the build 
>> machine to the commit machine.
>>
>> This is a temporary situation. new infrastructure will let me commit 
>> from my build machine again.
> 
> I find having a copy of Parallels (or VMWare) around very useful for 
> precisely this situation -- it means that even when I have only the Mac 
> around I can easily do a local test build.  The various VM packages 
> certainly have their limitations, but they're far better than nothing.
> 

And to be fair, there are habitual build breakers and there are
non-habitual build breakers.  Julian, IMHO, falls mostly into the
latter category, yet I see people focus on him disproportionally.
Funny.  Kinda.  Not.

Scott




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