From owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 29 06:23:30 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 472DC16A4CE; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 06:23:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pooker.samsco.org (pooker.samsco.org [168.103.85.57]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC09F43D2F; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 06:23:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from scottl@freebsd.org) Received: from [192.168.254.11] (junior-wifi.samsco.home [192.168.254.11]) (authenticated bits=0) by pooker.samsco.org (8.12.11/8.12.10) with ESMTP id iAT6Qp0a099513; Sun, 28 Nov 2004 23:26:53 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from scottl@freebsd.org) Message-ID: <41AAC07C.1010009@freebsd.org> Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 23:23:56 -0700 From: Scott Long User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040929 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Stijn Hoop References: <200411290132.iAT1WAse056942@repoman.freebsd.org> <20041129061618.GW4025@pcwin002.win.tue.nl> In-Reply-To: <20041129061618.GW4025@pcwin002.win.tue.nl> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.86.1.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=3.8 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on pooker.samsco.org cc: cvs-src@freebsd.org cc: src-committers@freebsd.org cc: cvs-all@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/boot/i386/loader Makefile loader.rc X-BeenThere: cvs-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: CVS commit messages for the entire tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 06:23:30 -0000 Stijn Hoop wrote: > On Mon, Nov 29, 2004 at 01:32:10AM +0000, Scott Long wrote: > >>scottl 2004-11-29 01:32:10 UTC >> >> FreeBSD src repository >> >> Modified files: >> sys/boot/i386/loader Makefile >> Removed files: >> sys/boot/i386/loader loader.rc >> Log: >> Disable the beastie menu. It offends some and annoys everyone else, and >> I'm frankly tired of the controversy. When people ask me why FreeBSD >> isn't userfriendly, I'll tell them that I tried. RIP. > > > I'm sorry to see this go; the menu is very useful IMHO. Are you sure that > people weren't complaining about the beastie image alone? (which, although nice > in my opinion, might indeed raise unfortunate questions when seen by the wrong > person) > > --Stijn > I had patches in the works to make the image optional. Without it the screen is a bit off balance and bare, so I was trying to figure out a different layout that looked ok. However, there were a quite a few complaints about the timer, text, options, and keys that had nothing to do with the image. I won't object to someone else picking this up and seeing what they can do with it. Unfortunately, I just don't have time or energy anymore to fight this fight. Scott