From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jun 27 07:44:51 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26F1315DD512 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 2019 07:44:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mustafakuscu@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ed1-x543.google.com (mail-ed1-x543.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::543]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E5DDF7278C for ; Thu, 27 Jun 2019 07:44:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mustafakuscu@gmail.com) Received: by mail-ed1-x543.google.com with SMTP id s49so6158791edb.1 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 2019 00:44:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=0FE6K76ABM69o3Lx5d3AXtYK5ZV1dj8yDWjr/CC/494=; b=VANjd8n3qi2irN+EMl9n9oFdFh2K7CBwT/7o+VefdpN+Z6fA1KgieYCJBlnCH2duNR Ze22lcpLJpjbVps8znoCbW/n676pRyMtJrU+PDF4cYOXsKr9bT0XMqXVJG3GLM5ro20D PHSjbW7K3vzHPm3qeKfhg+tXeeFMq+R5wfJHgQBi3G2/bmGF4ggUN+dqxIWCxnDKpMVL db0vqx4ByZ9cO6ZQtNfeWInt3Ov/BKCfV2NxO3NG4993qlUsdAUL4kdbV3bBetyjvzCa +ELb2DWzI+HwOqhu/0gMOWmOurzN37W4MJD3b4NdBOH5WffwVCyQbWb1QzRVMYrYcdyu T66Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=0FE6K76ABM69o3Lx5d3AXtYK5ZV1dj8yDWjr/CC/494=; b=JNvNkwEDWrExCJOaNw7VASH6exD8XZ45ZeguFdBQJr8jBGLslIkopM/PkS/xBtkpG4 aPCKxdhNq6AuIdpC7qFmF21taKmolKxKdO61IwKoXisq0WJdEbZlPyez1j69vxi3B5HB n987qgfnZ1zLus5FdG384htM4PF2MscE2NI/xL0R472EvdciCAdo2ARvUVmrUWMRG7sF h9XzdYZP7rkG4ZXgyVJJB80bzPXuZPVQ+Zj/o6yK402UW6tBWks22ZkYnhHG08hMg90Q 2xOgdNUZbp8jgaZM+YZyOVo5c83ZSZ4WDfC2k8nCVVFGSsTMIP0TGv5f6j1goiP9852B e7DQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAXkcnGmKGyTnDHmRKSdBji5HPWYWlA0PctFYavxcGkMFp/tluGV k3btPoTDZzPT/UVDwdMEAkic9OVvChMAS86lc6678WnQDZc= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqyIYlFyBxzVL00tMAKwvamYCLSsvT2DWFDCKjZCtk8loEgu7uJqOE6TDDI/5oXrWpthUtxsjy5npJKRW4MWpKA= X-Received: by 2002:a50:a4ef:: with SMTP id x44mr2386069edb.304.1561621488657; Thu, 27 Jun 2019 00:44:48 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20190626063443.51ad3f1b.freebsd@edvax.de> <20190627081518.9dc6f3c2.freebsd@edvax.de> <20190627091012.44fc65a7@archlinux> In-Reply-To: <20190627091012.44fc65a7@archlinux> From: Mustafa Kuscu Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2019 10:44:36 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: I've got a major question... To: Ralf Mardorf Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Polytropon Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: E5DDF7278C X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=VANjd8n3; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of mustafakuscu@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4864:20::543 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=mustafakuscu@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.97 / 15.00]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a00:1450:4000::/36]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: alt3.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[rocketmail.com]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.94)[-0.940,0]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[3.4.5.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.5.4.1.0.0.a.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; IP_SCORE(-1.02)[ip: (-0.09), ipnet: 2a00:1450::/32(-2.60), asn: 15169(-2.34), country: US(-0.06)]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2019 07:44:51 -0000 Hi, There is a trend to migrate towards FOSS systems in the public sector of Turkey. An interesting example is the Turkish IRS, who released its own distribution called GIBUX. Also, municipal organizations are taking the path from Windows 7 to Linux (a Debian based distribution called Pardus). Public schools with interactive boards in classes are replacing Windows 7 with a Pardus distro for boards. It is very appealing to convert a financial institution to a Linux/BSD environment, however, there might be some regulatory issues depending on the legislation such as COBIT, ITIL, etc which enforce IT governance and security, central management, etc. In order to complement linux/bsd with such enterprise features (not financial industry specific), I know they had to develop replacement tools for Active Directory and SCCM/Group Policy tools so that an LDAP based management infrastructure can be built. It is already available as an open source project called LiderAhenk. But at some point, all your systems and their dependencies ought to be supported in some sense to reach a proper acceptable risk level imposed by those standards. Personally, the hardest part in converting a bank to linux/bsd would be the bank branch. The reason is the variety of specialized equipment (scanners, printers, wating queue displays, security and digital signature devices) all need connectivity, vendor support and sometimes specialized drivers that only work on Windows. To overcome that, GIBUX approach may be good as they have similar environment in their branches. This guy shares their experiences on migration with quite a bit of detail: https://www.pendik.bel.tr/sayfa/detay/bilgi-islem-mudurlugu%7Cpardus-ve-acik-kaynak-kod-donusum-projesi You can google-translate it. Probably there are many other similar approaches. I wanted to materialize a few, and would be happy to see more discussed. Kind Regards, Mustafa