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[76.182.104.150]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id q1sm6123352ane.21.2012.04.27.10.57.11 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 27 Apr 2012 10:57:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jerry@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3VfNBt3dP2z2CG5r for ; Fri, 27 Apr 2012 13:57:10 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 13:57:10 -0400 From: Jerry To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20120427135710.2f66d2ac@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <20120427163224.GA29149@hemlock.hydra> References: <20120424175026.GD1303@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <201204241833.q3OIXwTR013401@mail.r-bonomi.com> <20120424190227.GA1773@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20120425053133.e920b091.freebsd@edvax.de> <20120425064507.GA4673@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20120425085555.36f91b3a.freebsd@edvax.de> <20120426215256.GA30059@hemlock.hydra> <20120426184306.783f9b4b@scorpio> <20120427163224.GA29149@hemlock.hydra> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnRHNq1t4ZnyssY6jghalG2VPMqMTbS+vPjj+SrO/wSyOUTm8MN6rA7WV7FHNicHoujlkiX Subject: Re: editor that understands CTRL/B, CTRL/I, CTRL/U X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 17:57:14 -0000 On Fri, 27 Apr 2012 10:32:24 -0600 Chad Perrin articulated: >On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 06:43:06PM -0400, Jerry wrote: >> On Thu, 26 Apr 2012 15:52:56 -0600 >> Chad Perrin articulated: >> >> >On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 02:45:53PM -0700, David Brodbeck wrote: >> >> >> >> Generic skills aren't recognized because they're hard to judge and >> >> test for. People want quantifiable, objective things to weed out >> >> applicants. This is also why credit scoring has become so >> >> popular -- sure, someone's credit score may not tell whether >> >> they'd be a good employee or not, but it's a convenient, >> >> objective way to throw out a bunch of resumes. >> > >> >Indeed -- and the employer who bucks this trend does him/her self a >> >huge service, because large numbers of very skilled and/or talented >> >people are being rejected on entirely arbitrary criteria that have >> >little or no correlation to their ability to do the job. People who >> >use such critera are forcing themselves to compete with everyone >> >else in the industry using the same criteria, leaving a glut of job >> >candidates who would be great at the job waiting for someone else to >> >give them a chance. >> >> Wouldn't it be far easier for this "glut of job applicants" to either >> become proficient in the skills stated in the job description for >> which they are applying or do what everyone else does; i.e. lie on >> their résumé. If the mountain will not come to Mahomet, Mahomet must >> go to the mountain. > >1. Pretty much every employer has a slightly different list of >keywords. I guess you think all these job candidates should learn >every skill in the world. No, I think they should learn the one(s) most sought after in their chosen field. If 90% of the potential openings in a specific field are requesting proficiency with MS Word, what do you think any legitimate applicants should become proficient in? >2. Lying is bad. Go fall in a hole, now. Yes, but it is never-the-less the norm on way too many resumes. I have read where it is estimated that 1 out of every 3 is either a gross over statement of fact or just a complete fabrication. My own (original) resume, written by a professional resume writer many years ago, absolutely astounded me. I had no idea I was as proficient and skilled in so many areas. As the writer explained, it is not what you say but how you say it. Just because I once wrote a two page article that got published in a cheap magazine does not mean that I am an accomplished author with numerous credits to my name -- or does it? -- Jerry ♔ Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________