From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Oct 8 02:46:13 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id CAA07630 for hackers-outgoing; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 02:46:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id CAA07625 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 02:46:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) Received: from time.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.7/8.6.9) with ESMTP id CAA24414; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 02:45:29 -0700 (PDT) To: Simon Shapiro cc: "Matthew D. Fuller" , hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: group assignments from make world. In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 07 Oct 1997 23:43:20 PDT." Date: Wed, 08 Oct 1997 02:45:29 -0700 Message-ID: <24410.876303929@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I also see something else; Many times a question will trigger a discussion > that end up way out (compared to the original subject). This is good, I > think, but increases the volume on the lists. Yes. I'm all for discussion but the volume really has gotten to be just a bit much and the percentage of useful info we developers glean from the interaction is decreasing. That's bad since it will only lead to the abandonment of these lists by that same developer crowd - it's been months since I was last able to subscribe to freebsd-isp or freebsd-questions, for example, and I think freebsd-hackers is going to be the next to go for me. Sigh. > If you are to categorize access, how will you do that? Will you restrict > some? Based on what criteria? I guess if I we could get everyone on the bleeding edge (e.g. tracking a branch vs hanging out at the last release) to subscribe to the right mailing lists and also be _very aware_ that they were about to do the equivalent of hang gliding off of Everest and if they run into trouble, they're basically on their own. > I think you should chalk this issue up to ``cost of doing busines''. I have been, believe me, but that cost is rising every day. I'm not sure we can afford it forever and still remain the project everyone wants us to be. > BTW, the {Open,Net} lists are much quiter, or am I wrong? Smaller. :( Jordan