From owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 20 11:30:53 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5D49106566B; Thu, 20 Jan 2011 11:30:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wenheping@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 325848FC19; Thu, 20 Jan 2011 11:30:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iyb26 with SMTP id 26so451419iyb.13 for ; Thu, 20 Jan 2011 03:30:52 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=MP3gW7WLSgqVufIpbFGSgXAYrpSic159ePjIGGvHoVI=; b=MxRGK1EOpLQEx7Y8laZsN5ra0LAynQJIDaR5N3RTzT/7i1y+tTHN8MHdQFVMrbThXl S3og++phtwpb6+7L+Ay/PMyJoDLik6FJiLmCrCL4eXKHJlR6rT/WZYTXc0+ybksAXr23 BXBdrrrV7iZ3mNOFXU1oIyqIqQ30iHne18GVE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=J9l+YOvVQaJjuIJqLJfGSrON1aazWNPapMU+N4GyqEVP0xppx6M9L2VSaATqfSvg5x g4TL6oa94lDKqdFbHW+jw/1Vv43xS+cokoCcJtYLKMUDPK9C++Pwb9FTQtuKrIjSjjDs JBXwLOJDS4m0Tz5ImIShNzq0pw2sC/3GJDE9g= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.206.80 with SMTP id ft16mr2353171ibb.110.1295523052331; Thu, 20 Jan 2011 03:30:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.231.26.17 with HTTP; Thu, 20 Jan 2011 03:30:52 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20110120103939.GA13852@FreeBSD.org> References: <201101180845.p0I8jubc025995@repoman.freebsd.org> <70181583@serv3.int.kfs.ru> <20110120092507.GA82095@FreeBSD.org> <20110120103939.GA13852@FreeBSD.org> Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 19:30:52 +0800 Message-ID: From: wen heping To: Alexey Dokuchaev Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Boris Samorodov , Wen Heping , cvs-ports@freebsd.org, cvs-all@freebsd.org, ports-committers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: ports/www/moinmoin Makefile distinfo pkg-plist X-BeenThere: cvs-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: **OBSOLETE** CVS commit messages for the entire tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 11:30:53 -0000 2011/1/20 Alexey Dokuchaev : > On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 06:18:39PM +0800, wen heping wrote: >> 2011/1/20 Alexey Dokuchaev : >> > On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 01:32:16PM +0300, Boris Samorodov wrote: >> >> Wen Heping writes: >> >> > +LICENSE=3D =C2=A0GPLv2 >> >> > +LICENSE_FILE=3D =C2=A0 ${WRKSRC}/docs/licenses/COPYING >> >> >> >> This is a general question, just picking this commit up. >> >> Should we provide the license text if it's a standard one? >> >> My vote is "no"... >> > >> > I would also said no. In fact, I find it abusive and wrong to use the >> > LICENSE_FILE at all for standard licenses. Then problem is that people >> > don't care, and we (ports people) do not do enough to educate them, an= d >> > even sometimes encourage mistakes by committing bad submissions. >> >> I do not think it is a wrong use when set LICENSE_FILE even it's a >> standard one. =C2=A0What is its harm? =C2=A0It could at least help the u= ser to find >> the license file easily. > > Licenses are installed in the standard place anyways, so finding it Not all licenses are installed in the standard place, such as this port www/moin. > should not be a problem. =C2=A0However, explicit definition of LICENSE_FI= LE > for standard licenses goes against general declarative idea of Makefile. > When you ask the author, how is your software licensed, you expect to > hear something like "BSD" or "GPLv2". =C2=A0This is sufficient in 99% cas= es. If I am the author of the source, and I include my email or some other extra message in the LICENSE. Then , when I was asked what is my license. I would say, my license are like "BSD" and "GPLv2", and please read my license file too :) Maybe, a more detailed guide of use bsd.license.mk should be created. wen > I think that usage of our LICENSE framework should follow these simple > (and natural) way. =C2=A0More over, explicit LICENSE_FILE could be incomp= lete > or non-verbatim copy of the standard license. =C2=A0Last but not least: w= hy > increase entropy? > > ./danfe >