From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 4 00:05:18 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46217F61 for ; Sun, 4 Aug 2013 00:05:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank2@fjl.co.uk) Received: from bs1.fjl.org.uk (bs1.fjl.org.uk [84.45.41.196]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9E3E7228F for ; Sun, 4 Aug 2013 00:05:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.35] (mux.fjl.org.uk [62.3.120.246]) (authenticated bits=0) by bs1.fjl.org.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r7405FCP041261 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 4 Aug 2013 01:05:15 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from frank2@fjl.co.uk) Message-ID: <51FD9ABC.1010408@fjl.co.uk> Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2013 01:05:16 +0100 From: Frank Leonhardt User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Archiving a log file References: <51FD8E19.90403@fjl.co.uk> <20130803232018.GA59293@neutralgood.org> In-Reply-To: <20130803232018.GA59293@neutralgood.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2013 00:05:18 -0000 On 04/08/2013 00:20, kpneal@pobox.com wrote: > On Sun, Aug 04, 2013 at 12:11:21AM +0100, Frank Leonhardt wrote: >> The answer isn't (AFAIK) newsyslog >> >> As a one-off, I need to archive an old log file - say httpd-access.log - >> while its still open. I don't want this to happen automatically and I >> don't want to set up newsyslog or anything like that. And I really don't >> want to mess about with signals to whatever is writing to the file, even >> assuming the writer could respond to them. I can't just rename the file >> as it's open for writing, and there would also be a good chance that >> something will be added to the file while it's being compressed. >> >> What I actually do is: >> >> cp httpd-access.log httpd-access.log-03-Aug-13 && :> httpd-access.log && >> bzip2 httpd-access.log-03-Aug-13 >> >> Data might be lost here as something may be added between the cp being >> completed and the file being truncated. It's not the end of the world if >> this happens, but is there a better way? I could always shut down Apache >> for the duration, but I don't want to do that either, so in this case >> I'm happy to take the risk (it's not like I'm likely to miss anything >> that important). >> >> I don't know if this can be relied on as a POSIX thing, but the cp >> command simply(!) issues read() and write() calls until read() fails to >> get any more bytes, so if data is being appended to the file after cp is >> started it'll still be copied. Therefore the window where stuff could be >> written after the copy but before the truncation is shortened, but extant. >> >> So what's the magic utility I don't know about? > How about cronolog? I use it with Apache where Apache logs to cronolog > and cronolog handles the rotating of the logs. No signals. No races. > It even makes a symlink pointing at the newest log file. > > It doesn't seem to have a way to compress logs, but you could probably > script up something that wakes up every so often and compresses files > if a newer file exists. Thanks for the suggestion - I wasn't aware of cronolog. Unfortunately it doesn't work on existing log files, only stuff piped to it from the start, so it won't help here. I can see it being very handy in other situations though. httpd-access.log was just an example of such a file, but I'm looking for a general solution. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 4 01:13:10 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9315DA2F for ; Sun, 4 Aug 2013 01:13:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mikel.king@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qe0-x231.google.com (mail-qe0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c02::231]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 53BCC24FF for ; Sun, 4 Aug 2013 01:13:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qe0-f49.google.com with SMTP id 1so1077190qec.36 for ; Sat, 03 Aug 2013 18:13:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=references:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:cc:x-mailer:from:subject:date :to; bh=qSWiRWUeBEMCt3qZXNt6jU3w1t5BYD9oMlu8UmOeEJU=; b=SoSUOuuo6/dnLKhTe2qOrqQ4vlDDpzNy9/f65uE2sLe8G6Q2Os0IDNjdOA4OaKejMI BT34nTw6asFM4+BT4LdxH09XEC6bPiVjTQJAjgvldXj/1gfq5IinCUlykwM3Kx+ESgXA GERD+kkJn7UNbnV4HvyAcOe95S7z6GKy50TDt3wNssww+7NYP5aubxviusvflJELtRRi ML6wVr85xc54F82lgzCnCClHbUWhm9C3qyKOS31wU0DB+LjBlOrZOZR0M7g9yM/Ttl0o F3uIh78E+uL7zcw8UTz+Ga/kY2RgelTiDPffLCKC/xGB2yttrUkBGAYvSPsNiFMheQj5 gA1g== X-Received: by 10.224.64.202 with SMTP id f10mr20297698qai.6.1375578789403; Sat, 03 Aug 2013 18:13:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.16.1.218] (mail.olivent.com. [75.99.82.91]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id nh4sm230023qeb.6.2013.08.03.18.13.07 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 03 Aug 2013 18:13:08 -0700 (PDT) References: <51FD8E19.90403@fjl.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) In-Reply-To: <51FD8E19.90403@fjl.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <76073A9A-CE2D-4ACF-89B5-AAE7E580A8E6@gmail.com> X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (10B350) From: mikel king Subject: Re: Archiving a log file Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2013 21:13:06 -0400 To: Frank Leonhardt Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2013 01:13:10 -0000 Do you have logger installed? You coupled pipe your CustomLog into logger wh= ich will facilitate Apache writing to syslog, in lieu of directly writing th= e file. After some tweaking this should let you use the systems standard log= rotation schema.=20 Something like: CustomLog "| logger -t httpd -p local.info" Cheers, m On Aug 3, 2013, at 19:11, Frank Leonhardt wrote: > The answer isn't (AFAIK) newsyslog >=20 > As a one-off, I need to archive an old log file - say httpd-access.log - w= hile its still open. I don't want this to happen automatically and I don't w= ant to set up newsyslog or anything like that. And I really don't want to me= ss about with signals to whatever is writing to the file, even assuming the w= riter could respond to them. I can't just rename the file as it's open for w= riting, and there would also be a good chance that something will be added t= o the file while it's being compressed. >=20 > What I actually do is: >=20 > cp httpd-access.log httpd-access.log-03-Aug-13 && :> httpd-access.log && b= zip2 httpd-access.log-03-Aug-13 >=20 > Data might be lost here as something may be added between the cp being com= pleted and the file being truncated. It's not the end of the world if this h= appens, but is there a better way? I could always shut down Apache for the d= uration, but I don't want to do that either, so in this case I'm happy to ta= ke the risk (it's not like I'm likely to miss anything that important). >=20 > I don't know if this can be relied on as a POSIX thing, but the cp command= simply(!) issues read() and write() calls until read() fails to get any mor= e bytes, so if data is being appended to the file after cp is started it'll s= till be copied. Therefore the window where stuff could be written after the c= opy but before the truncation is shortened, but extant. >=20 > So what's the magic utility I don't know about? >=20 > Thanks, Frank. >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.or= g" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 4 03:03:16 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4186B830 for ; Sun, 4 Aug 2013 03:03:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mikel.king@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qe0-x230.google.com (mail-qe0-x230.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c02::230]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 00F2828A2 for ; Sun, 4 Aug 2013 03:03:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qe0-f48.google.com with SMTP id 9so1092368qea.21 for ; Sat, 03 Aug 2013 20:03:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=+ZMO2XGhK//YhJ7uPOgym5WTtOhEuxf3nnXtTRhv5cA=; b=v1o8JYGgHXEAnpsE30koOo37sfVHBkWMCMcEUK2UK1ewpadOrTZwRmfFPV3ZjEi+Um OZadlwA9xJwMUXaYY69inTR1Un1nbbxE44cufKqL/tKYqhW03LQ3o8iaxAo9Wwhg8TWW 6cpJtuptXB1WK/K+WHCL4p4Lr6FEwwFEE/NimkzxJLBaWzz1mBVG/xNHD3xjXp10zWrN CHthFdAPirhnTlTm1iPJ3wV8pIaScoGH7YkjYZCK9jDrPD9exCgrssYEuCGioWt6DQED +i8KeeEvB1uzHXyflkiuXBBY64rLgAeAyV9TeRs5nbiodaDlturwzIyauHy2x7doOUys +CxQ== X-Received: by 10.229.128.148 with SMTP id k20mr3165516qcs.30.1375585394570; Sat, 03 Aug 2013 20:03:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.16.1.223] (mail.olivent.com. [75.99.82.91]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id j11sm432648qaa.7.2013.08.03.20.03.12 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 03 Aug 2013 20:03:13 -0700 (PDT) Sender: Mikel King Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.5 \(1508\)) Subject: Re: Archiving a log file From: mikel king In-Reply-To: <51FD8E19.90403@fjl.co.uk> Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2013 23:04:53 -0400 Message-Id: <37485629-94BD-48EF-B7A7-9ED4C5B9A6E5@olivent.com> References: <51FD8E19.90403@fjl.co.uk> To: Frank Leonhardt X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1508) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2013 03:03:16 -0000 On Aug 3, 2013, at 7:11 PM, Frank Leonhardt = wrote: > The answer isn't (AFAIK) newsy slog >=20 I did some more digging on the whole log piping thing and apache = includes a nifty little application called rotatelogs which lives in = /usr/local/sbin/rotatelogs on my system that I built form the ports. = =46rom the man page: NAME=20 rotatelogs - Piped logging program to rotate Apache logs=20 SYNOPSIS rotatelogs [ -l ] [ -f ] logfile rotationtime|filesizeM [ offset = ]=20 SUMMARY=20 rotatelogs is a simple program for use in conjunction with = Apache's piped logfile feature. It supports rotation based on a time = interval or maximum size of the log. It looks pretty simple to use just create your log format directive = like: LogFormat "%t \"%r\" %>s \"%{Referer}i\" %b" SpecialFormat CustomLog "| /usr/local/sbin/rotatelogs = /var/log/httpd-access.log 86400" SpecialFormat I hope that helps. I know I shall be experimenting with this one = tomorrow.=20 Regards, Mikel King BSD News Network http://bsdnews.net skype: mikel.king http://twitter.com/mikelking From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 4 08:29:55 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AF14575 for ; Sun, 4 Aug 2013 08:29:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6006B2262 for ; Sun, 4 Aug 2013 08:29:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-172-70.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.172.70]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9E4C3C3FB; Sun, 4 Aug 2013 10:29:47 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r748Tj3L002845; Sun, 4 Aug 2013 10:29:45 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 4 Aug 2013 10:29:45 +0200 From: Polytropon To: jb Subject: Re: Assign program call to a key Message-Id: <20130804102945.fc534f55.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20130803070846.8cabc010.freebsd@edvax.de> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2013 08:29:55 -0000 On Sat, 3 Aug 2013 14:43:14 +0000 (UTC), jb wrote: > Polytropon edvax.de> writes: > > > > > Is there a way to assign a predefined program call to a key > > in X, _independently_ from the window manager or desktop > > environment in use? > > ... > > https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Extra_Keyboard_Keys_in_Xorg > It may give you some hints. The last entries on the page look interesting, but "keytouch" and "actkbd" are not available, only "xbindkeys" is in the ports collection. >From the description Allows you to launch shell commands under X with your keyboard it seems to be exactly what I'm looking for. Thanks for the *pointer! ;-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 4 10:54:15 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90109F3E for ; Sun, 4 Aug 2013 10:54:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank2@fjl.co.uk) Received: from bs1.fjl.org.uk (bs1.fjl.org.uk [84.45.41.196]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1742524FC for ; Sun, 4 Aug 2013 10:54:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.35] (mux.fjl.org.uk [62.3.120.246]) (authenticated bits=0) by bs1.fjl.org.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r74AsAiN049002 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 4 Aug 2013 11:54:10 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from frank2@fjl.co.uk) Message-ID: <51FE32D3.3000707@fjl.co.uk> Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2013 11:54:11 +0100 From: Frank Leonhardt User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Archiving a log file References: <51FD8E19.90403@fjl.co.uk> <37485629-94BD-48EF-B7A7-9ED4C5B9A6E5@olivent.com> In-Reply-To: <37485629-94BD-48EF-B7A7-9ED4C5B9A6E5@olivent.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2013 10:54:15 -0000 On 04/08/2013 04:04, mikel king wrote: > On Aug 3, 2013, at 7:11 PM, Frank Leonhardt wrote: > >> The answer isn't (AFAIK) newsyslog >> > I did some more digging on the whole log piping thing and apache includes a nifty little application called rotatelogs which lives in /usr/local/sbin/rotatelogs on my system that I built form the ports. From the man page: > > NAME > rotatelogs - Piped logging program to rotate Apache logs > SYNOPSIS > rotatelogs [ -l ] [ -f ] logfile rotationtime|filesizeM [ offset ] > SUMMARY > rotatelogs is a simple program for use in conjunction with Apache's piped logfile feature. It supports rotation based on a time interval or maximum size of the log. > > It looks pretty simple to use just create your log format directive like: > > LogFormat "%t \"%r\" %>s \"%{Referer}i\" %b" SpecialFormat > > CustomLog "| /usr/local/sbin/rotatelogs /var/log/httpd-access.log 86400" SpecialFormat > > I hope that helps. I know I shall be experimenting with this one tomorrow. > Thanks for looking at it, but I probably shouldn't have picked Apache as an example. I thought it would be something people were familiar with. The program writing the log is actually called flubnutz and it doesn't play nice with newsyslog, reopen handles on a signal or anything else. FWIW I've been using newsyslog since 1998 from most regular system services and I don't have any problem with it. (I lied about it being called "flubnutz", before anyone Googles it - but it's not an Apache-specific issue, as Apache logs are handled well enough with newsyslog except where you're running virtual hosts with their own log files, in which case it's a PITA.). Regards, Frank. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 4 13:38:36 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D63F5C34 for ; Sun, 4 Aug 2013 13:38:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from terje@elde.net) Received: from keepquiet.net (keepquiet.net [IPv6:2a01:4f8:130:84c1::deaf:babe]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 957112928 for ; Sun, 4 Aug 2013 13:38:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.155.20.1] (2.150.50.128.tmi.telenormobil.no [2.150.50.128]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) (Authenticated sender: terje@elde.net) by keepquiet.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 671FF2E3FB; Sun, 4 Aug 2013 15:38:34 +0200 (CEST) References: <51FD8E19.90403@fjl.co.uk> <37485629-94BD-48EF-B7A7-9ED4C5B9A6E5@olivent.com> <51FE32D3.3000707@fjl.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <51FE32D3.3000707@fjl.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: <5DF8D376-34BF-4748-8371-C616E7FEC2A1@elde.net> X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (10B329) From: Terje Elde Subject: Re: Archiving a log file Date: Sun, 4 Aug 2013 15:38:31 +0200 To: Frank Leonhardt Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2013 13:38:36 -0000 On 4. aug. 2013, at 12:54, Frank Leonhardt wrote: > The program writing the log is actually called flubnutz and it doesn't pla= y nice with newsyslog, reopen handles on a signal or anything else Then you're out of luck for normal rotation. No matter if you rename the fil= e, or even delete it, it'll keep writing to the same file (the moved file, n= ot the same filename).=20 I suppose your options are to either restart it to have it reopen the file, o= r if that's not desirable for whatever reason, look see if it'll play nice i= f you put a named pipe where the logfile is supposed to be. Then you can han= dle data as you'd like from the pipe.=20 Terje From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 4 18:24:57 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E549503 for ; Sun, 4 Aug 2013 18:24:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vagabond@blackfoot.net) Received: from nightmare.dreamchaser.org (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.44.142]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DECF322E2 for ; Sun, 4 Aug 2013 18:24:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from breakaway.dreamchaser.org (breakaway.dreamchaser.org. [12.32.36.73]) by nightmare.dreamchaser.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id r74IOk0G012658 for ; Sun, 4 Aug 2013 12:24:46 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from vagabond@blackfoot.net) Message-ID: <51FE9C6E.4000304@blackfoot.net> Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2013 12:24:46 -0600 From: Gary Aitken User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130730 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: how to make mkinstalldirs Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.36.65]); Sun, 04 Aug 2013 12:24:46 -0600 (MDT) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2013 18:24:57 -0000 Can anyone give me some hints on how to manually (or automagically) create mkinstalldirs for a port? ports/graphics/ufraw fails to build due to install: /usr/local/share/glib-2.0/gettext/mkinstalldirs: No such file or directory It's not supposed to be needed if automake is >= 1.9, but automake in the ports tree is 1.4. Gary From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 4 19:25:57 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B705543F for ; Sun, 4 Aug 2013 19:25:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from emorrasg@yahoo.es) Received: from nm9-vm0.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com (nm9-vm0.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com [77.238.189.197]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 118F12560 for ; Sun, 4 Aug 2013 19:25:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [77.238.189.239] by nm9.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Aug 2013 19:25:48 -0000 Received: from [46.228.39.81] by tm20.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Aug 2013 19:25:46 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp118.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Aug 2013 19:25:46 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.es; s=s1024; t=1375644346; bh=0em7GSg/G1LKXy9oVkVvRCUy9a0Q/FfYeG69UcAzp6c=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:Date:From:To:Subject:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References:X-Mailer:Disposition-Notification-To:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=icDIE+DFa4b2e3StYwvHhxPR44krGiR1tI120ghiGVsfHT8GxAUsFkQI7tu6m6u3BRd/nkXPweJRwkR5yRbBA62DY6Nxs0dslXeAvtSNOLbZBCrr5hzAkbhatHNh4E8vW6EFMzS7Sdl1FNpJu3ERCfOQYTFo+TGSO8gTZwjFVzo= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 820428.13830.bm@smtp118.mail.ir2.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: k9duTCIVM1nxHct26IUET2B1KM9HnI.Y0Cf_rjYRYoX.mhw QbQmflOkMAU1czQRTLi96TUGZOVyFAl.y3I_QYZAPQjFTMi0EuQfELsuQbNM vElBs1vO0h3EuX9SKcqohKrwO9lGWOqD.BOghKXzWOogMds_mJjEpdZavZJD hwuobfzeCMqscB3BgszG8z3m4bmeRlAlvUjKeb7uBT9Vv.veHnehyip4pUsC 2cB7tfjxsXXhC4sGhLZ5EeppTRKo11KRsj7UtHjhKUvx4NwFArgVar2F_LcR cZ9LjAjKRK0tiSX1QTy5dlV3O1bj8qbmcHjWI2ocWPplHMqJNIVQXEI2XTCK auD_klNSEKsSbWRnVgxKx9.IhsMRB5HSNXY2nLyKqVeB.YtrEA3gCzVwOx7A _Kuah93cuodXlS6YXA8TgAC4xa9El0hAQL_BC6tXmj.9CnJoahhYe8pKptEt oc9D2NZL5yUp5bU_waoyLoxy9Hjo.6shq_Ofvx9a0bTz3F6LSe6v.yOs- X-Yahoo-SMTP: mX392iiswBAeJNdO_s.EW62LZDJR X-Rocket-Received: from camibar.emorras.eu (emorrasg@89.7.216.154 with ) by smtp118.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 04 Aug 2013 19:25:46 +0000 UTC Date: Sun, 4 Aug 2013 21:25:38 +0200 From: Eduardo Morras To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to make mkinstalldirs Message-Id: <20130804212538.e080d5989aa6b24675c6a01e@yahoo.es> In-Reply-To: <51FE9C6E.4000304@blackfoot.net> References: <51FE9C6E.4000304@blackfoot.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.3.0 (GTK+ 2.24.19; amd64-portbld-freebsd9.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2013 19:25:57 -0000 On Sun, 04 Aug 2013 12:24:46 -0600 Gary Aitken wrote: > Can anyone give me some hints on how to manually (or automagically) create > mkinstalldirs for a port? > > ports/graphics/ufraw fails to build due to > > install: /usr/local/share/glib-2.0/gettext/mkinstalldirs: No such file or directory > > It's not supposed to be needed if automake is >= 1.9, but automake in the ports > tree is 1.4. Today I updated my system (9.1) and automake updated from 1.12.6 to 1.14 Perhaps you forget to update the ports tree first > > Gary --- --- Eduardo Morras From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 4 19:53:32 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6478695 for ; Sun, 4 Aug 2013 19:53:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@growveg.net) Received: from smtp1.servage.net (smtp1.servage.net [IPv6:2a01:3b0:1:fb:1::2001]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7B04C2737 for ; Sun, 4 Aug 2013 19:53:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from potato.growveg.org (growveg-1-pt.tunnel.tserv11.ams1.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f14:3d2::2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp1.servage.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 25CA5320D9 for ; Sun, 4 Aug 2013 19:58:46 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <51FEB131.2030505@growveg.net> Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2013 20:53:21 +0100 From: John User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130627 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: virtualbox-ose fails to build on FreeBSD 9.2-BETA2 #0 r253698 References: <51FBD63F.7050403@growveg.net> In-Reply-To: <51FBD63F.7050403@growveg.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2013 19:53:32 -0000 On 02/08/2013 16:54, John wrote: > Hello list, > > I'm trying to install virtualbox on a new machine running > FreeBSD 9.2-BETA2 #0 r253698. The ports version is 324162. Is it a > problem with the port or my machine? This was fixed by: commenting everything out of /etc/make.conf svn to 9-stable, make world (etc) reboot then deleting all installed ports then removing everything from /usr/local then rm -rf /usr/ports portsnap install svn then checkout ports install virtualbox-ose sorry for the noise -- John From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 4 20:44:19 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 118FB7BB for ; Sun, 4 Aug 2013 20:44:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vagabond@blackfoot.net) Received: from nightmare.dreamchaser.org (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.44.142]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D4A742948 for ; Sun, 4 Aug 2013 20:44:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from breakaway.dreamchaser.org (breakaway.dreamchaser.org. [12.32.36.73]) by nightmare.dreamchaser.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id r74KiA7k012995 for ; Sun, 4 Aug 2013 14:44:10 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from vagabond@blackfoot.net) Message-ID: <51FEBD1A.20001@blackfoot.net> Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2013 14:44:10 -0600 From: Gary Aitken User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130730 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to make mkinstalldirs References: <51FE9C6E.4000304@blackfoot.net> <20130804212538.e080d5989aa6b24675c6a01e@yahoo.es> In-Reply-To: <20130804212538.e080d5989aa6b24675c6a01e@yahoo.es> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.36.65]); Sun, 04 Aug 2013 14:44:11 -0600 (MDT) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2013 20:44:19 -0000 On 08/04/13 13:25, Eduardo Morras wrote: > On Sun, 04 Aug 2013 12:24:46 -0600 > Gary Aitken wrote: > >> Can anyone give me some hints on how to manually (or automagically) create >> mkinstalldirs for a port? >> >> ports/graphics/ufraw fails to build due to >> >> install: /usr/local/share/glib-2.0/gettext/mkinstalldirs: No such file or directory >> >> It's not supposed to be needed if automake is >= 1.9, but automake in the ports >> tree is 1.4. > > Today I updated my system (9.1) and automake updated from 1.12.6 to 1.14 > > Perhaps you forget to update the ports tree first typo on my part. should read: It's not supposed to be needed if automake is >= 1.19, but automake in the ports tree is 1.14 I'm up to date with automake as far as I know, and ufraw still requires mkinstalldirs to build. Thanks for the reply, though, Gary From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 4 20:48:58 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 520938C1 for ; Sun, 4 Aug 2013 20:48:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vagabond@blackfoot.net) Received: from nightmare.dreamchaser.org (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.44.142]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B7BBA296C for ; Sun, 4 Aug 2013 20:48:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from breakaway.dreamchaser.org (breakaway.dreamchaser.org. [12.32.36.73]) by nightmare.dreamchaser.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id r74KmuwA013002 for ; Sun, 4 Aug 2013 14:48:56 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from vagabond@blackfoot.net) Message-ID: <51FEBE38.2000202@blackfoot.net> Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2013 14:48:56 -0600 From: Gary Aitken User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130730 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: hardware monitor Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.36.65]); Sun, 04 Aug 2013 14:48:56 -0600 (MDT) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2013 20:48:58 -0000 Can anyone suggest a hardware monitor app in the ports tree? I've got an amd64 which may have a temperature issue, but I can't see it to tell... Thanks, Gary From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 4 21:15:58 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9837E29 for ; Sun, 4 Aug 2013 21:15:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B035E2A15 for ; Sun, 4 Aug 2013 21:15:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-172-70.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.172.70]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 115B82460C; Sun, 4 Aug 2013 23:15:50 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r74LFmie005730; Sun, 4 Aug 2013 23:15:48 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 4 Aug 2013 23:15:48 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Gary Aitken Subject: Re: hardware monitor Message-Id: <20130804231548.dbb1fd2e.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <51FEBE38.2000202@blackfoot.net> References: <51FEBE38.2000202@blackfoot.net> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2013 21:15:59 -0000 On Sun, 04 Aug 2013 14:48:56 -0600, Gary Aitken wrote: > Can anyone suggest a hardware monitor app in the ports tree? > I've got an amd64 which may have a temperature issue, > but I can't see it to tell... If it's primarily about temperature... amdtemp (kernel module), healthd (system service), mbmon and xmbmon (in the ports collection). -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 4 23:18:06 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0F126F3 for ; Sun, 4 Aug 2013 23:18:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank2@fjl.co.uk) Received: from bs1.fjl.org.uk (bs1.fjl.org.uk [84.45.41.196]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 90A8F2E0A for ; Sun, 4 Aug 2013 23:18:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.35] (mux.fjl.org.uk [62.3.120.246]) (authenticated bits=0) by bs1.fjl.org.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r74NHuOT071243 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 00:17:57 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from frank2@fjl.co.uk) Message-ID: <51FEE125.4000200@fjl.co.uk> Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2013 00:17:57 +0100 From: Frank Leonhardt User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: hardware monitor References: <51FEBE38.2000202@blackfoot.net> In-Reply-To: <51FEBE38.2000202@blackfoot.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2013 23:18:06 -0000 On 04/08/2013 21:48, Gary Aitken wrote: > Can anyone suggest a hardware monitor app in the ports tree? > I've got an amd64 which may have a temperature issue, > but I can't see it to tell... > > Try "sysctl hw.acpi.thermal" For more information see "man acpi" and man "acpi_thermal". If you're lucky it gives you information on the ACPI thermal control system, if you have one. If you want an alarm based on this, a shell script is easy enough. If that doesn't do it for you, try some of the others. I've known these to work (sometimes) /usr/ports/sysutils/lmmon /usr/ports/sysutils/consolehm /usr/ports/sysutils/mbmon And there are some fun modules you can add to loader.conf (stuff I've done in the past, but could be on an early version of FreeBSD) coretemp_load="YES" smbus_load="YES" smb_load="YES" intpm_load="YES" ichsmb_load="YES" Then give "sysctl dev.cpu | grep temperature" a try. If you're worried about your Winchesters getting over-cooked you can use smartctl, available in /usr/ports/sysutils/smartmontools. Something like "smartctl -a /dev/ad?? | grep -i temp" should do the trick. It lets you mess with the drive SMART (self-diagnositc) system and it can tell you all sorts of stuff about you drive performance to make you really paranoid. Regards, Frank. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 4 23:22:56 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16440886 for ; Sun, 4 Aug 2013 23:22:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vagabond@blackfoot.net) Received: from nightmare.dreamchaser.org (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.44.142]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D0F5E2E1E for ; Sun, 4 Aug 2013 23:22:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from breakaway.dreamchaser.org (breakaway.dreamchaser.org. [12.32.36.73]) by nightmare.dreamchaser.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id r74NMbMl013432 for ; Sun, 4 Aug 2013 17:22:37 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from vagabond@blackfoot.net) Message-ID: <51FEE23D.3020402@blackfoot.net> Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2013 17:22:37 -0600 From: Gary Aitken User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130730 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: AMD Phenom II X4 temperature issues (was Re: hardware monitor) References: <51FEBE38.2000202@blackfoot.net> <20130804231548.dbb1fd2e.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20130804231548.dbb1fd2e.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.36.65]); Sun, 04 Aug 2013 17:22:37 -0600 (MDT) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2013 23:22:56 -0000 Ok, so now I see that my cpu temperature shoots up pretty dang fast when a build is going on. I'm running an AMD Phenom II X4 with the AMD-supplied fan in an ASUS M4A89TD PRO / USB3 motherboard. The system "works fine" unless I start a cpu-intensive build. If I leave it unattended, after some time the system shuts down abruptly. I'm guessing it's because of excessive cpu temperatures. When doing port builds, or any cpu-intensive job, the temperature of the CPU goes from 45 to 50 in about 30 seconds. I pretty much have to manually suspend and resume the build process to keep it down. If I do that, I avoid the abrupt shutdown. Needless to say, this makes unattended operation a non-starter... Does anyone else have a similar setup they can provide me some related experience on? Thanks, Gary On 08/04/13 15:15, Polytropon wrote: > On Sun, 04 Aug 2013 14:48:56 -0600, Gary Aitken wrote: >> Can anyone suggest a hardware monitor app in the ports tree? >> I've got an amd64 which may have a temperature issue, >> but I can't see it to tell... > > If it's primarily about temperature... amdtemp (kernel > module), healthd (system service), mbmon and xmbmon (in > the ports collection). > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 4 23:28:36 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3EB3D4A for ; Sun, 4 Aug 2013 23:28:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank2@fjl.co.uk) Received: from bs1.fjl.org.uk (bs1.fjl.org.uk [84.45.41.196]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A40682E66 for ; Sun, 4 Aug 2013 23:28:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.35] (mux.fjl.org.uk [62.3.120.246]) (authenticated bits=0) by bs1.fjl.org.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r74NSW3A072840 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 00:28:33 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from frank2@fjl.co.uk) Message-ID: <51FEE3A1.4080301@fjl.co.uk> Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2013 00:28:33 +0100 From: Frank Leonhardt User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Archiving a log file References: <51FD8E19.90403@fjl.co.uk> <37485629-94BD-48EF-B7A7-9ED4C5B9A6E5@olivent.com> <51FE32D3.3000707@fjl.co.uk> <5DF8D376-34BF-4748-8371-C616E7FEC2A1@elde.net> In-Reply-To: <5DF8D376-34BF-4748-8371-C616E7FEC2A1@elde.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2013 23:28:36 -0000 On 04/08/2013 14:38, Terje Elde wrote: > On 4. aug. 2013, at 12:54, Frank Leonhardt wrote: >> The program writing the log is actually called flubnutz and it doesn't play nice with newsyslog, reopen handles on a signal or anything else > Then you're out of luck for normal rotation. No matter if you rename the file, or even delete it, it'll keep writing to the same file (the moved file, not the same filename). > > I suppose your options are to either restart it to have it reopen the file, or if that's not desirable for whatever reason, look see if it'll play nice if you put a named pipe where the logfile is supposed to be. Then you can handle data as you'd like from the pipe. > > Terje > Thanks. The consensus seems to be that there is no way to do this other than "start from a different place". It'd be difficult for the kernel to trim a file from the start unless it was on a block boundary, so it's not implemented and explains the numerous work arounds for dealing with logs (fifo to log manager, signalling an application to reopen logs because file has changed and so on). So I will carry on using my original bodge, happy in the knowledge that it may not be perfect, but there's no better method known to exist unless I want to implement a better truncate() in the kernel. Regards, Frank. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 4 23:29:39 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D91CDE3 for ; Sun, 4 Aug 2013 23:29:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vagabond@blackfoot.net) Received: from nightmare.dreamchaser.org (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.44.142]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CA1592E72 for ; Sun, 4 Aug 2013 23:29:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from breakaway.dreamchaser.org (breakaway.dreamchaser.org. [12.32.36.73]) by nightmare.dreamchaser.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id r74NTawL013444 for ; Sun, 4 Aug 2013 17:29:37 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from vagabond@blackfoot.net) Message-ID: <51FEE3E0.5080709@blackfoot.net> Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2013 17:29:36 -0600 From: Gary Aitken User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130730 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: AMD Phenom II X4 temperature issues (was Re: hardware monitor) References: <51FEBE38.2000202@blackfoot.net> <20130804231548.dbb1fd2e.freebsd@edvax.de> <51FEE23D.3020402@blackfoot.net> In-Reply-To: <51FEE23D.3020402@blackfoot.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.36.65]); Sun, 04 Aug 2013 17:29:37 -0600 (MDT) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2013 23:29:39 -0000 On 08/04/13 17:22, Gary Aitken wrote: > Ok, so now I see that my cpu temperature shoots up pretty dang fast when a > build is going on. > > I'm running an AMD Phenom II X4 with the AMD-supplied fan in an > ASUS M4A89TD PRO / USB3 motherboard. > > The system "works fine" unless I start a cpu-intensive build. > If I leave it unattended, after some time the system shuts down abruptly. > I'm guessing it's because of excessive cpu temperatures. > > When doing port builds, or any cpu-intensive job, the temperature of the > CPU goes from 45 to 50 in about 30 seconds. > > I pretty much have to manually suspend and resume the build process > to keep it down. If I do that, I avoid the abrupt shutdown. > > Needless to say, this makes unattended operation a non-starter... > > Does anyone else have a similar setup they can provide me some related > experience on? BTW, the mobo temp stays down around 32. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 4 23:49:59 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFB8E75 for ; Sun, 4 Aug 2013 23:49:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jrisom@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vb0-x22e.google.com (mail-vb0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c02::22e]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AB0232EC8 for ; Sun, 4 Aug 2013 23:49:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-vb0-f46.google.com with SMTP id p13so2211535vbe.5 for ; Sun, 04 Aug 2013 16:49:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=N8T30z7B6ybdxlux4HhciQ4Czxhv7FxicmLHi2XVNn4=; b=z8b7veuS7JRH1lXOAtazkxuYZln6iau3woVoY9naiMsdXpjJOBzdxT8I099VNVIj+H B0LdFg8+8YRQ2QcOro4a0c8yJgQdKilyHeA171SgKHmv6nq7u7Nu7ixMZK8EAHhnfdo4 PFuDKaMteDWvbaubrR1feEv+wQuAwLwmjzCRN6zmg+4EvDfqy2G77zN6igYZqPeHf8jx kcFRNonneSsfvtCZlZhCNDKgDyyFftDNuNoBKdVtB3qq3nwtsKk5KH1ugrmnJ8mHHgIO nCXnEawKeWyFwuzIyhwHDO+fBTjni6c7W5xKvRBljzY5lph7KLycAqr1yP5TCyyANjTE 7bKg== X-Received: by 10.220.44.195 with SMTP id b3mr5006007vcf.62.1375660198870; Sun, 04 Aug 2013 16:49:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.34] (c-98-212-197-211.hsd1.il.comcast.net. [98.212.197.211]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id kk6sm3778231vdb.5.2013.08.04.16.49.57 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 04 Aug 2013 16:49:58 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <51FEE89F.3040306@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2013 18:49:51 -0500 From: Joshua Isom User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.2; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: AMD Phenom II X4 temperature issues (was Re: hardware monitor) References: <51FEBE38.2000202@blackfoot.net> <20130804231548.dbb1fd2e.freebsd@edvax.de> <51FEE23D.3020402@blackfoot.net> <51FEE3E0.5080709@blackfoot.net> In-Reply-To: <51FEE3E0.5080709@blackfoot.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2013 23:50:00 -0000 On 8/4/2013 6:29 PM, Gary Aitken wrote: > On 08/04/13 17:22, Gary Aitken wrote: >> Ok, so now I see that my cpu temperature shoots up pretty dang fast when a >> build is going on. >> >> I'm running an AMD Phenom II X4 with the AMD-supplied fan in an >> ASUS M4A89TD PRO / USB3 motherboard. >> >> The system "works fine" unless I start a cpu-intensive build. >> If I leave it unattended, after some time the system shuts down abruptly. >> I'm guessing it's because of excessive cpu temperatures. >> >> When doing port builds, or any cpu-intensive job, the temperature of the >> CPU goes from 45 to 50 in about 30 seconds. >> >> I pretty much have to manually suspend and resume the build process >> to keep it down. If I do that, I avoid the abrupt shutdown. >> >> Needless to say, this makes unattended operation a non-starter... >> >> Does anyone else have a similar setup they can provide me some related >> experience on? > > BTW, the mobo temp stays down around 32. You need a better heatsink and fan for your CPU. If you're idle temp is 45, that's too high. By using powerd, so it's 800MHz, and being idle I'm at around 26C, presumably. It peaks at 45C on parallel builds. In the meantime, you can set the maximum cpu speed, which I recommend powerd for. Here's a tip when shopping, get a big beefy heatsink with a standard fan size, and replace the fan with something beefier. Either that or water cooling. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 5 00:30:06 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AE14708 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 00:30:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank2@fjl.co.uk) Received: from bs1.fjl.org.uk (bs1.fjl.org.uk [84.45.41.196]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 618FE2FD9 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 00:30:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.35] (mux.fjl.org.uk [62.3.120.246]) (authenticated bits=0) by bs1.fjl.org.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r750U13D082778 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 01:30:02 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from frank2@fjl.co.uk) Message-ID: <51FEF20B.2090503@fjl.co.uk> Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2013 01:30:03 +0100 From: Frank Leonhardt User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: AMD Phenom II X4 temperature issues (was Re: hardware monitor) References: <51FEBE38.2000202@blackfoot.net> <20130804231548.dbb1fd2e.freebsd@edvax.de> <51FEE23D.3020402@blackfoot.net> <51FEE3E0.5080709@blackfoot.net> In-Reply-To: <51FEE3E0.5080709@blackfoot.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2013 00:30:06 -0000 On 05/08/2013 00:29, Gary Aitken wrote: > On 08/04/13 17:22, Gary Aitken wrote: >> Ok, so now I see that my cpu temperature shoots up pretty dang fast when a >> build is going on. >> >> I'm running an AMD Phenom II X4 with the AMD-supplied fan in an >> ASUS M4A89TD PRO / USB3 motherboard. >> >> The system "works fine" unless I start a cpu-intensive build. >> If I leave it unattended, after some time the system shuts down abruptly. >> I'm guessing it's because of excessive cpu temperatures. >> >> When doing port builds, or any cpu-intensive job, the temperature of the >> CPU goes from 45 to 50 in about 30 seconds. >> >> I pretty much have to manually suspend and resume the build process >> to keep it down. If I do that, I avoid the abrupt shutdown. >> >> Needless to say, this makes unattended operation a non-starter... >> >> Does anyone else have a similar setup they can provide me some related >> experience on? > BTW, the mobo temp stays down around 32. > Did you get that from the ACPI? Obvious answers are a bigger fan, but a lot of home-build machines don't match the airflow through the case properly - if the CPU fan is blowing pre-warmed air on to the CPU it's not as good as blowing outside air. 50C isn't crazy. Some would say that was barely warm, in fact. Cooler is always better, but you possibly don't need to worry about this. Some CPUs use what they call passive temperature management, and power management, which means they increase or reduce the clock rate depending on the workload and whether it's getting too hot. Faster switching means more heat. So getting hotter when doing a lot of work makes sense and could be expected. (Winchesters really heat up like you wouldn't believe when you move the heads a lot). Did you get anywhere with the ACPI suggestion (you emailed me privately, whether you meant to or not, but didn't mention the outcome). There's a lot there in the ACPI you might want to look in to, including fan control. If I understand it correctly, "passive cooling" will be engaged by acpi_thermal if the cpufreq drivers are in use, which may not be what you want. Try hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.active=1 to make the fan come on and stay on (tz0 or as appropriate). Here's the fun part. Is your system doing a thermal overload shutdown? it will say so on the console, or in the message log. You didn't say, you just said it "shut down". If it's deciding to shut down through over-temperature it does not necesarily mean it's overheating; it could be that it has incorrectly set the shutdown temperatue for your CPU to be far too low - possibly because it doesn't recognise it and is being over-cautious. it might help if you posted the results of "sysctl hw.acpi.thermal", but in the mean time look at: hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._HOT hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._CRT (replace tz0 with whatever tz you're worried about). The first is the temperature when the system is supposed to stop what it's doing and suspend to disk (if it can). When it reaches the value on _CRT it'll write a message to the log file and shut down immediately to prevent damage. You can set these to whatever you want, but you have to set hw.acpi.thermal.user_override to 1 first before it will let you. Final trick - make sure you specify the temperatures like sysctl hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._CRT=80C Don't specify it as 80.0C (as it will display) and don't forget the C or it will assume degrees Kelvin! Regards, Frank. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 5 02:01:51 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98412996 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 02:01:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vagabond@blackfoot.net) Received: from nightmare.dreamchaser.org (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.44.142]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48DC2222E for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 02:01:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from breakaway.dreamchaser.org (breakaway.dreamchaser.org. [12.32.36.73]) by nightmare.dreamchaser.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id r7521aJL013837; Sun, 4 Aug 2013 20:01:36 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from vagabond@blackfoot.net) Message-ID: <51FF0780.1010908@blackfoot.net> Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2013 20:01:36 -0600 From: Gary Aitken User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130730 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Frank Leonhardt Subject: Re: AMD Phenom II X4 temperature issues (was Re: hardware monitor) References: <51FEBE38.2000202@blackfoot.net> <20130804231548.dbb1fd2e.freebsd@edvax.de> <51FEE23D.3020402@blackfoot.net> <51FEE3E0.5080709@blackfoot.net> <51FEF20B.2090503@fjl.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <51FEF20B.2090503@fjl.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.36.65]); Sun, 04 Aug 2013 20:01:36 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2013 02:01:51 -0000 On 08/04/13 18:30, Frank Leonhardt wrote: > On 05/08/2013 00:29, Gary Aitken wrote: >> On 08/04/13 17:22, Gary Aitken wrote: >>> Ok, so now I see that my cpu temperature shoots up pretty dang >>> fast when a build is going on. >>> >>> I'm running an AMD Phenom II X4 with the AMD-supplied fan in an >>> ASUS M4A89TD PRO / USB3 motherboard. >>> >>> The system "works fine" unless I start a cpu-intensive build. If >>> I leave it unattended, after some time the system shuts down >>> abruptly. I'm guessing it's because of excessive cpu >>> temperatures. >>> >>> When doing port builds, or any cpu-intensive job, the temperature >>> of the CPU goes from 45 to 50 in about 30 seconds. I pretty much >>> have to manually suspend and resume the build process to keep it >>> down. If I do that, I avoid the abrupt shutdown. >>> >>> Needless to say, this makes unattended operation a >>> non-starter... >>> >>> Does anyone else have a similar setup they can provide me some >>> related experience on? >> BTW, the mobo temp stays down around 32. >> > > Did you get that from the ACPI? I think so; via amdtemp and xmbmon > Obvious answers are a bigger fan, but a lot of home-build machines > don't match the airflow through the case properly - if the CPU fan is > blowing pre-warmed air on to the CPU it's not as good as blowing > outside air. > > 50C isn't crazy. Some would say that was barely warm, in fact. Cooler > is always better, but you possibly don't need to worry about this. > Some CPUs use what they call passive temperature management, and > power management, which means they increase or reduce the clock rate > depending on the workload and whether it's getting too hot. Faster > switching means more heat. So getting hotter when doing a lot of work > makes sense and could be expected. (Winchesters really heat up like > you wouldn't believe when you move the heads a lot). Actually, the 50C figure is just where it shoots to for starters. Mfg specs say 62C max, so I stall the process when it gets around 59 and still climbing steeply. > Did you get anywhere with the ACPI suggestion (you emailed me > privately, whether you meant to or not, but didn't mention the > outcome). There's a lot there in the ACPI you might want to look in > to, including fan control. If I understand it correctly, "passive > cooling" will be engaged by acpi_thermal if the cpufreq drivers are > in use, which may not be what you want. Try > hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.active=1 to make the fan come on and stay on (tz0 > or as appropriate). The fan is on and stays on all the time at the moment... > Here's the fun part. Is your system doing a thermal overload > shutdown? it will say so on the console, or in the message log. You > didn't say, you just said it "shut down". If it's deciding to shut > down through over-temperature it does not necesarily mean it's > overheating; it could be that it has incorrectly set the shutdown > temperatue for your CPU to be far too low - possibly because it > doesn't recognise it and is being over-cautious. There is no indication in messages; the last thing before it shut down the last time was some su's and root logins. > it might help if you posted the results of "sysctl hw.acpi.thermal", > but in the mean time look at: > > hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._HOT hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._CRT > > (replace tz0 with whatever tz you're worried about). I don't see any of those; here's what shows up in sysctl -a : hw.acpi.supported_sleep_state: S1 S3 S4 S5 hw.acpi.power_button_state: S5 hw.acpi.sleep_button_state: S1 hw.acpi.lid_switch_state: NONE hw.acpi.standby_state: S1 hw.acpi.suspend_state: S3 hw.acpi.sleep_delay: 1 hw.acpi.s4bios: 0 hw.acpi.verbose: 0 hw.acpi.disable_on_reboot: 0 hw.acpi.handle_reboot: 0 hw.acpi.reset_video: 0 hw.acpi.cpu.cx_lowest: C1 > The first is the temperature when the system is supposed to stop what > it's doing and suspend to disk (if it can). When it reaches the value > on _CRT it'll write a message to the log file and shut down > immediately to prevent damage. You can set these to whatever you > want, but you have to set hw.acpi.thermal.user_override to 1 first > before it will let you. Final trick - make sure you specify the > temperatures like > > sysctl hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._CRT=80C # sysctl hw.acpi.thermal.user_override sysctl: unknown oid 'hw.acpi.thermal.user_override' obviously, something missing... I tried loading coretemp, but no additional hw.acpi variables; and the man page says it is for intel, not amd. > Don't specify it as 80.0C (as it will display) and don't forget the C > or it will assume degrees Kelvin! > > Regards, Frank. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 5 03:39:33 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9211ACD for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 03:39:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-doc@fjl.co.uk) Received: from bs1.fjl.org.uk (bs1.fjl.org.uk [84.45.41.196]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 63B0125E3 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 03:39:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.35] (mux.fjl.org.uk [62.3.120.246]) (authenticated bits=0) by bs1.fjl.org.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r753dKM4013788 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 5 Aug 2013 04:39:21 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from freebsd-doc@fjl.co.uk) Message-ID: <51FF1E69.4050401@fjl.co.uk> Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2013 04:39:21 +0100 From: Frank Leonhardt User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gary Aitken Subject: Re: AMD Phenom II X4 temperature issues (was Re: hardware monitor) References: <51FEBE38.2000202@blackfoot.net> <20130804231548.dbb1fd2e.freebsd@edvax.de> <51FEE23D.3020402@blackfoot.net> <51FEE3E0.5080709@blackfoot.net> <51FEF20B.2090503@fjl.co.uk> <51FF0780.1010908@blackfoot.net> In-Reply-To: <51FF0780.1010908@blackfoot.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2013 03:39:34 -0000 On 05/08/2013 03:01, Gary Aitken wrote: > > 50C isn't crazy. > Actually, the 50C figure is just where it shoots to for starters. > Mfg specs say 62C max, so I stall the process when it gets around 59 > and still climbing steeply. The manufactures specs I found when I looked that range of CPUs up was 71C http://www.amd.com/us/products/desktop/processors/phenom-ii/Pages/phenom-ii-model-number-comparison.aspx But there could be two figures - one for maximum desirable working and one for maximum "or else". >> Did you get anywhere with the ACPI suggestion Try >> hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.active=1 to make the fan come on and stay on (tz0 >> or as appropriate). > The fan is on and stays on all the time at the moment... It it full speed all the time? >> Here's the fun part. Is your system doing a thermal overload >> shutdown? > There is no indication in messages; the last thing before it shut down > the last time was some su's and root logins. This suggests it's not the ACPI in FreeBSD shutting you down, but something on the motherboard. >> it might help if you posted the results of "sysctl hw.acpi.thermal", >> but in the mean time look at: >> >> hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._HOT hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._CRT >> > I don't see any of those; here's what shows up in sysctl -a : > > hw.acpi.supported_sleep_state: S1 S3 S4 S5 > hw.acpi.power_button_state: S5 > hw.acpi.sleep_button_state: S1 > hw.acpi.lid_switch_state: NONE > hw.acpi.standby_state: S1 > hw.acpi.suspend_state: S3 > hw.acpi.sleep_delay: 1 > hw.acpi.s4bios: 0 > hw.acpi.verbose: 0 > hw.acpi.disable_on_reboot: 0 > hw.acpi.handle_reboot: 0 > hw.acpi.reset_video: 0 > hw.acpi.cpu.cx_lowest: C1 Yep - definitely suggests that the thermal control isn't being done by FreeBSD! Go no further on this route, but check the motherboard/BIOS. I had one machine shut itself down due to a faulty thermistor (raise the threshold/ignore) but it normally happens when the parameters are wrong or the fan has failed. As your fan hasn't failed and the reported temperature is believable my best guesses are that the BIOS is either picking the wrong shutdown temperature for the CPU or your air ducting isn't good enough and it really is getting too hot. Is there a chance that the BIOS pre-dates the CPU and just doesn't know its working parameters, and is therefore playing safe? Incidentally, ACPI is an Intel specification but applies AMD64 CPUs too. The thermal module only works on some chip-sets. FWIW I've found it works on more AMD platforms than it does Intel ones. Regards, Frank. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 5 05:05:19 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D46570C for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 05:05:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vagabond@blackfoot.net) Received: from nightmare.dreamchaser.org (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.44.142]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F27B12839 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 05:05:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from breakaway.dreamchaser.org (breakaway.dreamchaser.org. [12.32.36.73]) by nightmare.dreamchaser.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id r75552OV014320; Sun, 4 Aug 2013 23:05:03 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from vagabond@blackfoot.net) Message-ID: <51FF327E.6000002@blackfoot.net> Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2013 23:05:02 -0600 From: Gary Aitken User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130730 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: AMD Phenom II X4 temperature issues (was Re: hardware monitor) References: <51FEBE38.2000202@blackfoot.net> <20130804231548.dbb1fd2e.freebsd@edvax.de> <51FEE23D.3020402@blackfoot.net> <51FEE3E0.5080709@blackfoot.net> <51FEF20B.2090503@fjl.co.uk> <51FF0780.1010908@blackfoot.net> <51FF1E69.4050401@fjl.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <51FF1E69.4050401@fjl.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.36.65]); Sun, 04 Aug 2013 23:05:03 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-doc@fjl.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2013 05:05:19 -0000 On 08/04/13 21:39, Frank Leonhardt wrote: > On 05/08/2013 03:01, Gary Aitken wrote: >>> 50C isn't crazy. >> Actually, the 50C figure is just where it shoots to for starters. >> Mfg specs say 62C max, so I stall the process when it gets around >> 59 and still climbing steeply. > > The manufactures specs I found when I looked that range of CPUs up > was 71C > > http://www.amd.com/us/products/desktop/processors/phenom-ii/Pages/phenom-ii-model-number-comparison.aspx > > But there could be two figures - one for maximum desirable working > and one for maximum "or else". Maybe; although the number I quoted wasn't from AMD, and the two I just found at amd both said 71. >>> Did you get anywhere with the ACPI suggestion Try >>> hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.active=1 to make the fan come on and stay on >>> (tz0 or as appropriate). >> The fan is on and stays on all the time at the moment... > > It it full speed all the time? I really don't know what full speed on the fan is / feels like / sounds like. It's pretty quiet and there's a noisy old system nearby... xmbmon doesn't show fan speeds, nor does amdtemp provide access to them. Is there some other kernel module for fan speeds? >>> Here's the fun part. Is your system doing a thermal overload >>> shutdown? >> There is no indication in messages; the last thing before it shut >> down the last time was some su's and root logins. > > This suggests it's not the ACPI in FreeBSD shutting you down, but > something on the motherboard. That was my guess as well. >>> it might help if you posted the results of "sysctl >>> hw.acpi.thermal", but in the mean time look at: >>> >>> hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._HOT hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._CRT >>> >> I don't see any of those; here's what shows up in sysctl -a : >> >> hw.acpi.supported_sleep_state: S1 S3 S4 S5 >> hw.acpi.power_button_state: S5 hw.acpi.sleep_button_state: S1 >> hw.acpi.lid_switch_state: NONE hw.acpi.standby_state: S1 >> hw.acpi.suspend_state: S3 hw.acpi.sleep_delay: 1 hw.acpi.s4bios: 0 >> hw.acpi.verbose: 0 hw.acpi.disable_on_reboot: 0 >> hw.acpi.handle_reboot: 0 hw.acpi.reset_video: 0 >> hw.acpi.cpu.cx_lowest: C1 > > Yep - definitely suggests that the thermal control isn't being done > by FreeBSD! ok, but how do I get it in there if I want it? > Go no further on this route, but check the > motherboard/BIOS. I had one machine shut itself down due to a faulty > thermistor (raise the threshold/ignore) but it normally happens when > the parameters are wrong or the fan has failed. As your fan hasn't > failed and the reported temperature is believable my best guesses are > that the BIOS is either picking the wrong shutdown temperature for > the CPU or your air ducting isn't good enough and it really is > getting too hot. Is there a chance that the BIOS pre-dates the CPU > and just doesn't know its working parameters, and is therefore > playing safe? I'll check the BIOS next time I reboot. Air ducting shouldn't be a problem; I've got the side of the case off... > Incidentally, ACPI is an Intel specification but applies AMD64 CPUs > too. The thermal module only works on some chip-sets. FWIW I've found > it works on more AMD platforms than it does Intel ones. > > Regards, Frank. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 5 05:09:59 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B149851; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 05:09:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dewayne.geraghty@heuristicsystems.com.au) Received: from nschwqsrv01p.mx.bigpond.com (nschwqsrv01p.mx.bigpond.com [61.9.189.231]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0A8A287E; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 05:09:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nschwcmgw08p ([61.9.190.168]) by nschwmtas04p.mx.bigpond.com with ESMTP id <20130805040319.GCJE2030.nschwmtas04p.mx.bigpond.com@nschwcmgw08p>; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 04:03:19 +0000 Received: from hermes.heuristicsystems.com.au ([58.172.113.247]) by nschwcmgw08p with BigPond Outbound id 8s3K1m00Y5LKYmq01s3KKC; Mon, 05 Aug 2013 04:03:19 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=LvIQOwhc c=1 sm=1 a=YibVxx38Z+cwdCKSMcELyg==:17 a=2Rs81elfNtwA:10 a=twTT4oUKOlYA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=GHIR_BbyAAAA:8 a=p-_465MgMcUA:10 a=iYS7i3GgzJWJw2lDjngA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=YibVxx38Z+cwdCKSMcELyg==:117 Received: from white (white.hs [10.0.5.2]) (authenticated bits=0) by hermes.heuristicsystems.com.au (8.14.5/8.13.6) with ESMTP id r7541Urf090879; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 14:01:30 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from dewayne.geraghty@heuristicsystems.com.au) From: "Dewayne Geraghty" To: "'Devin Teske'" References: <9121C290928D49ECB462DE369BE694DD@white> <13CA24D6AB415D428143D44749F57D72020020B1@ltcfiswmsgmb21> <7C1FEE8CDBC34182B221C8CBCDFF759A@white> <13CA24D6AB415D428143D44749F57D7202004630@ltcfiswmsgmb21> Subject: RE: Geli and crunchgen (/rescue) Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2013 14:01:28 +1000 Message-ID: <03EC079CDDEA4FB09CB414AC5530A561@white> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Ac6QHAgE252R/l1WQF2gE3XKQ+4dCQAW3E6AAAmZPtAARaUNAAAKJKsw In-Reply-To: <13CA24D6AB415D428143D44749F57D7202004630@ltcfiswmsgmb21> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2013 05:09:59 -0000 Hi Devin, Thankyou. I'll look further into the openssl reference (off-list) in a few minutes. The geom stuff is a little bit tricky to get going, because only glabel and gpart have the necessary parts in them. Pawel left enough clues to enable the other geom classes (good engineering) The flags RELEASE_CRUNCH or RESCUE is tested in the geom/Makefile and defines STATIC_GEOM_CLASSES which is tested in the source; so: I've added this and similar to geom eli (mirror, shsec raid...) =================================================================== --- class/eli/geom_eli.c (revision 253832) +++ class/eli/geom_eli.c (working copy) @@ -54,9 +54,14 @@ #include "core/geom.h" #include "misc/subr.h" +#ifdef STATIC_GEOM_CLASSES +#define PUBSYM(x) geli_##x +#else +#define PUBSYM(x) x +#endif -uint32_t lib_version = G_LIB_VERSION; -uint32_t version = G_ELI_VERSION; +uint32_t PUBSYM(lib_version) = G_LIB_VERSION; +uint32_t PUBSYM(version) = G_ELI_VERSION; #define GELI_BACKUP_DIR "/var/backups/" #define GELI_ENC_ALGO "aes" @@ -99,7 +104,8 @@ * clear [-v] prov ... * dump [-v] prov ... */ -struct g_command class_commands[] = { + +struct g_command PUBSYM(class_commands)[] = { { "init", G_FLAG_VERBOSE, eli_main, { { 'a', "aalgo", "", G_TYPE_STRING }, Then I needed to add relevant parts (I'm really only interested in eli, mirror, shsec) in the /usr/src/sbin/geom/Makefile, but I tested clean compilation of the other common classes. --- Makefile (revision 253832) +++ Makefile (working copy) @@ -4,18 +4,40 @@ .PATH: ${.CURDIR}/class/part \ ${.CURDIR}/class/label \ + ${.CURDIR}/class/eli \ + ${.CURDIR}/class/mirror \ + ${.CURDIR}/class/shsec \ ${.CURDIR}/core \ - ${.CURDIR}/misc + ${.CURDIR}/../../sys/geom/eli ${.CURDIR}/../../sys/crypto/sha2 \ + ${.CURDIR}/misc +# For geom friends, move these up +# ${.CURDIR}/class/raid \ +# ${.CURDIR}/class/sched \ +# ${.CURDIR}/class/stripe \ +# ${.CURDIR}/class/journal \ PROG= geom SRCS= geom.c geom_label.c geom_part.c subr.c +SRCS+= geom_eli.c +SRCS+= g_eli_crypto.c +SRCS+= g_eli_key.c +SRCS+= pkcs5v2.c +SRCS+= sha2.c +SRCS+= geom_mirror.c geom_shsec.c +#SRCS+= geom_raid.c geom_sched.c geom_stripe.c +#SRCS+= geom_journal.c geom_journal_ufs.c NO_MAN= WARNS?= 2 CFLAGS+=-I${.CURDIR} -I${.CURDIR}/core -DSTATIC_GEOM_CLASSES +# For eli & friends +CFLAGS+= -I${.CURDIR}/../../sys -DPADD= ${LIBGEOM} ${LIBSBUF} ${LIBBSDXML} ${LIBUTIL} -LDADD= -lgeom -lsbuf -lbsdxml -lutil +DPADD= ${LIBGEOM} ${LIBSBUF} ${LIBBSDXML} ${LIBUTIL} ${LIBMD} ${LIBCRYPTO} +LDADD= -lgeom -lsbuf -lbsdxml -lutil -lmd -lcrypto Then adding to boot_crunch.conf: progs geom special geom objs geom.o geom_label.o geom_part.o geom_mirror.o geom_shsec.o geom_eli.o sha2.o pkcs5v2.o g_eli_key.o g_eli_crypto.o subr.o ln geom geli ln geom gmirror ln geom gshsec And libs -lgeom -lkiconv -lm -lwrap libs -lssl -lcrypto -lmd # Note: I added a few other things so kiconv and wrap may not be needed for geom Resulted in release/i386/boot_crunch and /rescue performing satisfactorily :) Thanks for your help, and clues. Kind regards, Dewayne. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 5 05:23:23 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6ACD9A11 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 05:23:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pgiessel@mac.com) Received: from nk11p04mm-asmtp002.mac.com (nk11p04mm-asmtp002.mac.com [17.158.236.237]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52F1628DC for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 05:23:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.162] (115-133-237-24.static.gci.net [24.237.133.115]) by nk11p04mm-asmtp002.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-27.07(7.0.4.27.6) 64bit (built Jun 21 2013)) with ESMTPSA id <0MR100A65IUO2EA0@nk11p04mm-asmtp002.mac.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 05 Aug 2013 04:23:13 +0000 (GMT) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.10.8794,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2013-08-05_02:2013-08-04,2013-08-05,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1305010000 definitions=main-1308040380 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.5 \(1508\)) Subject: Re: AMD Phenom II X4 temperature issues (was Re: hardware monitor) From: Peter Giessel In-reply-to: <51FEE23D.3020402@blackfoot.net> Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2013 20:23:11 -0800 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Message-id: <9CA2343F-172A-4B5C-A8BC-CC6F24B30617@mac.com> References: <51FEBE38.2000202@blackfoot.net> <20130804231548.dbb1fd2e.freebsd@edvax.de> <51FEE23D.3020402@blackfoot.net> To: Gary Aitken X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1508) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2013 05:23:23 -0000 You can also try shutting down (obviously), then removing the heat sink, = put some thermal paste on the processor and reinstall the heat sink. = Sometimes there isn't much (any) thermal paste there and the processor = can't get the heat into the heat sink. On 2013, Aug 4, at 15:22, Gary Aitken wrote: > Ok, so now I see that my cpu temperature shoots up pretty dang fast = when a > build is going on. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 5 07:05:19 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AD816CE for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 07:05:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from genie@geniechka.ru) Received: from s1.loshmanov.ru (s1.loshmanov.ru [188.40.115.203]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DD94E2BFA for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 07:05:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from geniepc2011 (0894461339.static.corbina.ru [95.31.5.144]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by s1.loshmanov.ru (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4AEC4DF2DD3; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 10:55:16 +0400 (MSK) Message-ID: <456BD576767548F79AC485F631037119@geniepc2011> From: "Eugene" To: "Gary Aitken" References: <51FEBE38.2000202@blackfoot.net> <20130804231548.dbb1fd2e.freebsd@edvax.de> <51FEE23D.3020402@blackfoot.net> <9CA2343F-172A-4B5C-A8BC-CC6F24B30617@mac.com> In-Reply-To: <9CA2343F-172A-4B5C-A8BC-CC6F24B30617@mac.com> Subject: Re: AMD Phenom II X4 temperature issues (was Re: hardware monitor) Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2013 10:33:55 +0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3555.308 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V15.4.3555.308 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2013 07:05:19 -0000 Hello Gary, Also make sure there is no packed dirt on the heatsink -- I don't know about AMDs, but older Intel heatsinks often tend to accumulate a paper-like layer of dirt on the 'top' of heatsink grid, blocking the airflow. I once had several thermal shutdowns on my home PC before I found that. This does not seem to happen with newer heatsinks so they must have changed the design somehow =) Best wishes Eugene -----Original Message----- From: Peter Giessel Sent: Monday, August 05, 2013 8:23 AM To: Gary Aitken Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: AMD Phenom II X4 temperature issues (was Re: hardware monitor) You can also try shutting down (obviously), then removing the heat sink, put some thermal paste on the processor and reinstall the heat sink. Sometimes there isn't much (any) thermal paste there and the processor can't get the heat into the heat sink. On 2013, Aug 4, at 15:22, Gary Aitken wrote: > Ok, so now I see that my cpu temperature shoots up pretty dang fast when a > build is going on. _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 5 08:00:18 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3FC1F7D for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 08:00:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david.i.noel@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wg0-x22a.google.com (mail-wg0-x22a.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c00::22a]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6F2472D79 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 08:00:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wg0-f42.google.com with SMTP id j13so1122931wgh.1 for ; Mon, 05 Aug 2013 01:00:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:reply-to:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=K5bKdG1esFbkuQDt34Nb2sZvDHyyOdTI6Gph70V7tKc=; b=nC7OG4s5Jx6mz4RVrRnryLcN0iX5BD9smzXFJvmyxS0bJAwmzojeFTNBPLD6BnXLLX d91lRQziGGuJo2/C2Q88rUieAULEavfzT4nVyp0dye+DM8G9h0J53p205GcK1gnz/jAu XU8cvXyMIQZOV+zEuIfTt6d3B38c0y2hlSokqfKeq7SNde2pgg1qiAi05SPK7RKuB0dQ nslsQ7DrzDdG3P49P9A5iffmSlHjqWupn+5ztbBgWHcdX/9KK9ZsIEgMOj3BhYsMBon6 RHmE0jJ9la8kOro8DgcId1dJoV98pUfUDS1mpn7BBUhziA/zETV7ZmwLiUpmsfreb8UA in1Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.79.161 with SMTP id k1mr5756422wix.36.1375689616829; Mon, 05 Aug 2013 01:00:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.217.2.141 with HTTP; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 01:00:16 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2013 03:00:16 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Update /usr/src with subversion From: David Noel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: David.I.Noel@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2013 08:00:18 -0000 Does anyone know how a workaround for having to rm -rf /usr/src every time the source URL changes? I'm updating from 8.3 to 8.4 with subversion and got a message along the lines of "Error: /usr/src/ contains files from a different URL". -David From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 5 08:02:29 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D65B5B3 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 08:02:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank2@fjl.co.uk) Received: from bs1.fjl.org.uk (bs1.fjl.org.uk [84.45.41.196]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6CFFE2D96 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 08:02:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.35] (mux.fjl.org.uk [62.3.120.246]) (authenticated bits=0) by bs1.fjl.org.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r7582PFV057371 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 09:02:25 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from frank2@fjl.co.uk) Message-ID: <51FF5C12.8010909@fjl.co.uk> Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2013 09:02:26 +0100 From: Frank Leonhardt User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: AMD Phenom II X4 temperature issues (was Re: hardware monitor) References: <51FEBE38.2000202@blackfoot.net> <20130804231548.dbb1fd2e.freebsd@edvax.de> <51FEE23D.3020402@blackfoot.net> <51FEE3E0.5080709@blackfoot.net> <51FEF20B.2090503@fjl.co.uk> <51FF0780.1010908@blackfoot.net> <51FF1E69.4050401@fjl.co.uk> <51FF327E.6000002@blackfoot.net> In-Reply-To: <51FF327E.6000002@blackfoot.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2013 08:02:30 -0000 On 05/08/2013 06:05, Gary Aitken wrote: > On 08/04/13 21:39, Frank Leonhardt wrote: > This suggests it's not the ACPI in FreeBSD shutting you down, but > something on the motherboard. > That was my guess as well. As it's probably not FreeBSD you're now asking on the wrong list, and other than cooling advice you're not going to get much (unless there are any closet over-clockers hereabouts). Personally I favour filling the whole case with a pumped fluorocarbon like FC-77 and using a heat exchanger to take the heat away in water to use in a fountain in my hallway ;-) The one sensible suggestion no one has made is to check if a BIOS upgrade doesn't fix it. As to getting FreeBSD to manage it instead of the BIOS: Unfortunately not all chipsets and motherboards are supported. If you want to add support yourself see: /usr/src/sys/dev/acpica If you want to get some idea of what you're up against see: /usr/src/sys/dev/acpica/acpi_quirks I've thought about it a few times but real work always got in the way. Regards, Frank. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 5 08:11:03 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D55E61EF for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 08:11:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [IPv6:2607:f678:1010::34]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A764C2DEA for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 08:11:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id r758AnrQ034865 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Mon, 5 Aug 2013 01:10:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.14.2/Submit) with UUCP id r758Anml034864; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 01:10:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from fbsd81 ([192.168.200.81]) by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA03801; Mon, 5 Aug 13 00:16:09 PDT Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2013 00:15:57 -0700 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com (Perry Hutchison) To: vagabond@blackfoot.net Subject: Re: AMD Phenom II X4 temperature issues (was Re: hardware monitor) Message-Id: <51ff512d.TnLk3KpP9BCUqqA7%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <51FEBE38.2000202@blackfoot.net> <20130804231548.dbb1fd2e.freebsd@edvax.de> <51FEE23D.3020402@blackfoot.net> <51FEE3E0.5080709@blackfoot.net> <51FEF20B.2090503@fjl.co.uk> <51FF0780.1010908@blackfoot.net> <51FF1E69.4050401@fjl.co.uk> <51FF327E.6000002@blackfoot.net> In-Reply-To: <51FF327E.6000002@blackfoot.net> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-doc@fjl.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2013 08:11:03 -0000 Gary Aitken wrote: > Air ducting shouldn't be a problem; I've got the side of the case off... This just might be part of the problem. Air plumbing is not as forgiving as it was in the old days. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 5 08:17:15 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 338FA30A for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 08:17:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@freebsd.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C13E12E37 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 08:17:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from rufus.webfusion.com (mail.heartinternet.co.uk [79.170.40.31]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id r758GnBZ019422 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 09:17:07 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@freebsd.org) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk r758GnBZ019422 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/r758GnBZ019422; dkim=none reason="no signature"; dkim-adsp=none (unprotected policy) X-Authentication-Warning: lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk: Host mail.heartinternet.co.uk [79.170.40.31] claimed to be rufus.webfusion.com Message-ID: <51FF5F70.7020205@freebsd.org> Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2013 09:16:48 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130715 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Update /usr/src with subversion References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.8 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.7 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_SOFTFAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2013 08:17:15 -0000 On 05/08/2013 09:00, David Noel wrote: > Does anyone know how a workaround for having to rm -rf /usr/src every > time the source URL changes? I'm updating from 8.3 to 8.4 with > subversion and got a message along the lines of "Error: /usr/src/ > contains files from a different URL". -David You need 'svn switch' -- so, if you've got some other branch checked out, and you want to have 8.4-RELEASE instead, then it's something like: # svn switch ^/base/releng/8.4 This will speedily change your checked out tree with minimal network IO. You can also use 'svn switch --relocate' to change which svn servers you have the tree checked out from or the protocol (svn://, https:// etc) used. See the output of 'svn help switch' for details. Cheers, Matthew From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 5 08:25:41 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA1A95ED; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 08:25:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david.i.noel@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wg0-x229.google.com (mail-wg0-x229.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c00::229]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5B7DF2EAC; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 08:25:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wg0-f41.google.com with SMTP id l18so1065355wgh.0 for ; Mon, 05 Aug 2013 01:25:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=y6rWRfBPh6sR4ehfn0l7vU8JZPdz8hiY+MFSsxh3avc=; b=qgZEHmcxrZp4tdE44qMhm9Ep71eXMRnBZSL/4tOKKq95cYWizihRrD/CiC7B2rbMK0 9IUGudUm5F6oNuwPjAsiH8gEj3MXWGS8eRxa13K3Yg7acXP3ozgd+7rbsEdWtq1Zz9sd GW7aZaUkzfioueXAm0poMMdrkToQgvNPu3l+05P9NBaCCka0ypObdWSmmKTYW11qYRPI Vd6aXtk07W9YHPCjfvptrcgpZuSsEmyz/iNAu/5Bq6+cFNxNPqZknETV4P+9q+KlqVL3 sOoPjwhq7E5+RBzB+qyrrtumnqx0teyLZIdMpLsEbNZPVvjRfSO7e7WR2i/DnGkCzxQr WlTw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.77.164 with SMTP id t4mr5749780wiw.58.1375691139747; Mon, 05 Aug 2013 01:25:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.217.2.141 with HTTP; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 01:25:39 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <51FF5F70.7020205@freebsd.org> References: <51FF5F70.7020205@freebsd.org> Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2013 03:25:39 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Update /usr/src with subversion From: David Noel To: Matthew Seaman Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: David.I.Noel@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2013 08:25:42 -0000 Ok great, thanks Matthew. I tried a different search query and actually found a similar question on the forums: http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=35014 Your solution looks a bit cleaner than the one proposed there: "rm -r /usr/src/.svn, and then check out the new branch". I'll check out the man for svn switch. Thanks again, -David On 8/5/13, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 05/08/2013 09:00, David Noel wrote: >> Does anyone know how a workaround for having to rm -rf /usr/src every >> time the source URL changes? I'm updating from 8.3 to 8.4 with >> subversion and got a message along the lines of "Error: /usr/src/ >> contains files from a different URL". -David > > You need 'svn switch' -- so, if you've got some other branch checked > out, and you want to have 8.4-RELEASE instead, then it's something like: > > # svn switch ^/base/releng/8.4 > > This will speedily change your checked out tree with minimal network IO. > > You can also use 'svn switch --relocate' to change which svn servers you > have the tree checked out from or the protocol (svn://, https:// etc) > used. See the output of 'svn help switch' for details. > > Cheers, > > Matthew > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 5 09:34:07 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E450A37 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 09:34:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-wg0-x232.google.com (mail-wg0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c00::232]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A54C021C2 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 09:34:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wg0-f50.google.com with SMTP id m15so2249626wgh.5 for ; Mon, 05 Aug 2013 02:34:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=8OcX6isJaHeJOASO2nd/y8R2vBQRN01ISNbteR1HJqA=; b=MWeW+DYyzgWwtHntUQyhGCa57Rmfm4ATOQNUBom7U5yG0boD/84xRLXVkVndfyBT6h PqLzBaWNzIVOpCU/FVHVRUKlmqeb6oppgzUWoNuRLhfwaQlA5xQ3naYrMg/WJqTJV5qz 1a602b2OSrFQHohU/or0DT/5V1fh8HppRngl/0WTwCB3lWzrscxcCtUOYKlktKUAMplp qiIKKsw+k2se7OL9asmqR09hui0Af3vP4CZ5Jo1jdqa+MGiFrIgN1DFeNgrdO1jKIr0f knJECBV/X1DJb0lb2Vuv5F00T1tmw49yoEoFoHTJnHS1ckGSQaW4yz7UyX6zBLAB5VMT ZLIw== X-Received: by 10.180.198.146 with SMTP id jc18mr6086288wic.61.1375695244885; Mon, 05 Aug 2013 02:34:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (87-194-105-247.bethere.co.uk. [87.194.105.247]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id jf9sm20149683wic.5.2013.08.05.02.34.03 for (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 05 Aug 2013 02:34:04 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2013 10:34:02 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: AMD Phenom II X4 temperature issues (was Re: hardware monitor) Message-ID: <20130805103402.48efec84@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <456BD576767548F79AC485F631037119@geniepc2011> References: <51FEBE38.2000202@blackfoot.net> <20130804231548.dbb1fd2e.freebsd@edvax.de> <51FEE23D.3020402@blackfoot.net> <9CA2343F-172A-4B5C-A8BC-CC6F24B30617@mac.com> <456BD576767548F79AC485F631037119@geniepc2011> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.0 (GTK+ 2.24.17; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2013 09:34:07 -0000 On Mon, 5 Aug 2013 10:33:55 +0400 Eugene wrote: > Hello Gary, > > Also make sure there is no packed dirt on the heatsink -- I don't > know about AMDs, but older Intel heatsinks often tend to accumulate a > paper-like layer of dirt on the 'top' of heatsink grid, blocking the > airflow. I once had several thermal shutdowns on my home PC before I > found that. This does not seem to happen with newer heatsinks so they > must have changed the design somehow =) I had a AMD Phenom II X4 and it had exactly that problem. Every few months I had to remove the fan to get a brush into the fins. An idle temperature of 45 C sounds about right for one that's been neglected. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 5 12:18:39 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A59F9314 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 12:18:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp.rcn.com (smtp.rcn.com [69.168.97.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 707AE2A7C for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 12:18:39 +0000 (UTC) X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=ANp1G3FL c=1 sm=0 tr=0 a=nVny9ETX7T5uMhI2oTVyRA==:117 a=VRFYND3hwskA:10 a=AaUjGI9IrlcA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=OA2lqS22AAAA:8 a=sIt-5M63AAAA:8 a=R2wlin_8hV4A:10 a=NWrPtjw8sDt-NFz5ozEA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=AnxB3rlEjkAA:10 a=dKhSAolqj0AA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp02.rcn.cmh.synacor.com header.from=roberthuff@rcn.com; sender-id=neutral Authentication-Results: smtp02.rcn.cmh.synacor.com smtp.mail=roberthuff@rcn.com; spf=neutral; sender-id=neutral Received-SPF: neutral (smtp02.rcn.cmh.synacor.com: 209.6.193.164 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of rcn.com) Received: from [209.6.193.164] ([209.6.193.164:36762] helo=jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) by smtp.rcn.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.49 r(42060/42061)) with ESMTP id 4E/3A-14489-8189FF15; Mon, 05 Aug 2013 08:18:33 -0400 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <20991.38935.826157.903508@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2013 08:18:31 -0400 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: deleting managed content using svn X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.4 (patch 22) "Instant Classic" XEmacs Lucid X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2013 12:18:39 -0000 I have a system that uses svn to track src+ports+doc. For reasons I won't get into, I want to scrub all svn-managed material under src in preparation for grabbing a completely clean copy. Neither on-system documentation nor the deeper documentation listed therein show how to do this. Or at least not in a way my brain is currently processing. :-) Is there a better way than "rm -rf"? Respectfully, Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 5 12:27:00 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECAEE608 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 12:27:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@freebsd.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 866DD2AD4 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 12:27:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from rufus.webfusion.com (mail.heartinternet.co.uk [79.170.40.31]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id r75CQtvK023232 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 13:26:56 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@freebsd.org) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk r75CQtvK023232 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/r75CQtvK023232; dkim=none reason="no signature"; dkim-adsp=none (unprotected policy) X-Authentication-Warning: lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk: Host mail.heartinternet.co.uk [79.170.40.31] claimed to be rufus.webfusion.com Message-ID: <51FF9A0E.9080702@freebsd.org> Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2013 13:26:54 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130715 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: deleting managed content using svn References: <20991.38935.826157.903508@jerusalem.litteratus.org> In-Reply-To: <20991.38935.826157.903508@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.8 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_SOFTFAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2013 12:27:01 -0000 On 05/08/2013 13:18, Robert Huff wrote: > > I have a system that uses svn to track src+ports+doc. > For reasons I won't get into, I want to scrub all svn-managed > material under src in preparation for grabbing a completely clean > copy. In principle SVN will be able to tell you if your checked out copy differs at all from what is in the repo. However, given you've said you don't want to do that.... > Neither on-system documentation nor the deeper documentation > listed therein show how to do this. Or at least not in a way my > brain is currently processing. :-) > Is there a better way than "rm -rf"? Nope. rm -rf of the checked out filesystem is going to blow away everything you had and let you start again from scratch. The only things that could remain are entries under ~/.subversion (or /root/.subversion) which will contain such things as records of SSL keys to trust or login details if you needed a password for access. You probably don't need to worry about doing anything to those. Cheers, Matthew From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 5 12:38:44 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D48F7CE for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 12:38:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp.rcn.com (smtp.rcn.com [69.168.97.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D92E52B61 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 12:38:43 +0000 (UTC) X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=IO07VGfG c=1 sm=0 tr=0 a=nVny9ETX7T5uMhI2oTVyRA==:117 a=nVny9ETX7T5uMhI2oTVyRA==:17 a=K-v-2zaBAAAA:8 a=j4OFTB23DU8A:10 a=AaUjGI9IrlcA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=OA2lqS22AAAA:8 a=sIt-5M63AAAA:8 a=EefO3FaoTwgA:10 a=oTl96NVse2J_UvhPDJsA:9 a=Hp_7gAwspGYHCQ4e:21 a=DMIPmwXmDEMQI8jv:21 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp01.rcn.cmh.synacor.com smtp.mail=roberthuff@rcn.com; spf=neutral; sender-id=neutral Authentication-Results: smtp01.rcn.cmh.synacor.com header.from=roberthuff@rcn.com; sender-id=neutral Received-SPF: neutral (smtp01.rcn.cmh.synacor.com: 209.6.193.164 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of rcn.com) Received: from [209.6.193.164] ([209.6.193.164:31812] helo=jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) by smtp.rcn.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.49 r(42060/42061)) with ESMTP id D3/DF-04066-1DC9FF15; Mon, 05 Aug 2013 08:38:43 -0400 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <20991.40144.184680.529901@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2013 08:38:40 -0400 To: Matthew Seaman Subject: Re: deleting managed content using svn In-Reply-To: <51FF9A0E.9080702@freebsd.org> References: <20991.38935.826157.903508@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <51FF9A0E.9080702@freebsd.org> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.4 (patch 22) "Instant Classic" XEmacs Lucid Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2013 12:38:44 -0000 Matthew Seaman writes: > > For reasons I won't get into, I want to scrub all svn-managed > > material under src in preparation for grabbing a completely clean > > copy. > > > Is there a better way than "rm -rf"? > > Nope. rm -rf of the checked out filesystem is going to blow away > everything you had and let you start again from scratch. The only > things that could remain are entries under ~/.subversion (or > /root/.subversion) which will contain such things as records of SSL keys > to trust or login details if you needed a password for access. You > probably don't need to worry about doing anything to those. Thanks. Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 5 13:22:09 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAFF9163; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 13:22:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6E0772CF5; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 13:22:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id r75DM2xs025515; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 07:22:02 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) with ESMTP id r75DM2SV025512; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 07:22:02 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2013 07:22:02 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: David Noel Subject: Re: Update /usr/src with subversion In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <51FF5F70.7020205@freebsd.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 05 Aug 2013 07:22:02 -0600 (MDT) Cc: Matthew Seaman , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2013 13:22:09 -0000 On Mon, 5 Aug 2013, David Noel wrote: > Ok great, thanks Matthew. I tried a different search query and > actually found a similar question on the forums: > http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=35014 That is an outdated thread. Ignore it. > Your solution looks a bit cleaner than the one proposed there: "rm -r > /usr/src/.svn, and then check out the new branch". > > I'll check out the man for svn switch. The new form is just 'svn relocate': http://forums.freebsd.org/showpost.php?p=224243&postcount=5 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 5 13:50:51 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9806491A for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 13:50:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@freebsd.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2F4AF2E57 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 13:50:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from rufus.webfusion.com (mail.heartinternet.co.uk [79.170.40.31]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id r75DoiOH024510 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 5 Aug 2013 14:50:45 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@freebsd.org) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk r75DoiOH024510 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/r75DoiOH024510; dkim=none reason="no signature"; dkim-adsp=none (unprotected policy) X-Authentication-Warning: lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk: Host mail.heartinternet.co.uk [79.170.40.31] claimed to be rufus.webfusion.com Message-ID: <51FFADB4.2040103@freebsd.org> Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2013 14:50:44 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130715 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Warren Block Subject: Re: Update /usr/src with subversion References: <51FF5F70.7020205@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.8 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.7 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_SOFTFAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, David Noel X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2013 13:50:51 -0000 On 05/08/2013 14:22, Warren Block wrote: >> Your solution looks a bit cleaner than the one proposed there: "rm -r >> /usr/src/.svn, and then check out the new branch". >> >> I'll check out the man for svn switch. > > The new form is just 'svn relocate': > http://forums.freebsd.org/showpost.php?p=224243&postcount=5 Just to be clear: 'svn relocate' is the new form for 'svn switch --relocate', used to change the servers or the protocol (or both) used to access the repository. 'svn switch' (without the --relocate argument) is still valid and is used to switch between branches within the repo. It's just 'svn switch --relocate' which is deprecated. Cheers, Matthew From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 5 13:55:02 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75871A6D for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 13:55:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vrwmiller@gmail.com) Received: from mail-oa0-x22a.google.com (mail-oa0-x22a.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c02::22a]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 40B6E2E8E for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 13:55:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-oa0-f42.google.com with SMTP id i18so6368895oag.29 for ; Mon, 05 Aug 2013 06:55:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=e124f0BiPf78RR/Ix7ZDzDqZHEuR4kc2PMcDXz0oE30=; b=IeHF1pCtia1D78fxAji/0kVoVXOfGE7Bgi/UZEx6vjJ2UI45Nxp4bCumkNPPramhjh E/7yRn9yRKSRP5mQG2yIkDxy65ZxR2BOFoP+IHVSQD7OWd8r+DnryYzCN5s4+IPcLU0w 7mMb9ajsjKynBeejD0fzDLlZICGD45X8lCJMmehLf/NfLg3ZxSOtY3HcrqfrntrpK5wX fKmIY8u4Ccs942/ClsPykWYaC6K8NwWIHcJYsQX/+7YPWH7KAlOfLnZEz++y5/5h+f0v f8hINT9MBjVuY+czc0JN3P8TCV5vGH37/bywHr2Uq6SGuN6puSow1fkLw+1QRGFiqxrk 1CCw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.43.145.69 with SMTP id jt5mr1596399icc.65.1375710901385; Mon, 05 Aug 2013 06:55:01 -0700 (PDT) Sender: vrwmiller@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.71.104 with HTTP; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 06:55:01 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2013 09:55:01 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: MlDLy3NSMMFvjLm-SPPcx6D8Wuk Message-ID: Subject: Re: Make Release From: Rick Miller To: Amitabh Kant Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: "Sam Fourman Jr." , freebsd general questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2013 13:55:02 -0000 On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 12:40 PM, Amitabh Kant wrote: > Devin Teske & Rick Miller have a fairly extensive explanation on their > blogs on how to create your own modified iso's. Search the archives for > links. Hopefully they can chime in with their respective links. Sorry to show up late for the discussion... Devin Teske definitely has more experience and knowledge than I. However, several of my blog posts may have relevant and helpful information on customizing images. There's not really one single answer as it depends largely on what you're looking to do. My customized images use a scripted sysinstall install.cfg that fetches a dynamically generated answer file from Cobbler. The answer file is based on a text template which includes Cheetah calls to Cobbler snippets for various things, including modifying the rc.conf. All lines modifying the rc.conf are placed in the answer file following the installCommit resword. Also understand that we replaced the http media type module with our own permitting direct http installs. In 8.4 or newer, there is a new media type called httpDirect (or similar) that accomplishes this as well. Here are some posts you may find helpful: http://blog.hostileadmin.com/2013/04/11/installing-freebsd-via-cobbler/ http://blog.hostileadmin.com/2012/10/08/building-freebsd-media-with-custom-packages/ http://blog.hostileadmin.com/2012/05/08/using-sysinstall-for-automated-freebsd-8-x-installs/ Bear in mind this applies specifically to FreeBSD 8.x. I will begin attacking 9.x in the coming months and anticipate more blog posts on accomplishing similar tasks within 9.x. -- Take care Rick Miller From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 5 15:12:02 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C00EB78 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 15:12:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dieterbsd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-oa0-x244.google.com (mail-oa0-x244.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c02::244]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6BB5C222D for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 15:12:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-oa0-f68.google.com with SMTP id j6so2804062oag.7 for ; Mon, 05 Aug 2013 08:12:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=LpDVxSQ0SZ6NgdTF0p1PNm7oZRHDcFj48HydeRVikSM=; b=fECiokdcs7ORjscp33P9oGPLai8gvApmuFueOkrbdPpW/mrrbHJoptqMPkW8Euik1e zXJAYuRJcLf4KNQvrTLCA2a7klta+Uu8/udYGF76aehUMBlymxOXLfFIrSC0W87unBDP H+Ao5hkOJhrxZ+jsT3FWvh5+xoEzNnHJ3DIIImPRXISvEIrWQv2Ndu6VD5mfzcbqkf2G lyyXWS5mYlZeKxMwDFrTLVOjq6OEeFfCLGOHWbAYTiIaszHrneM/T8B9JM+K7JXYht3O 3P2M+o4DoG9FK9OlscWu2EGAylvY1TBDSaddwrNl/a3/a9GwiQ744RaNd5pXpe8NQYg4 LW5Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.129.68 with SMTP id nu4mr1136198igb.9.1375715521602; Mon, 05 Aug 2013 08:12:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.246.134 with HTTP; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 08:12:01 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2013 08:12:01 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: disk is AWOL From: Dieter BSD To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2013 15:12:02 -0000 >> 8.2 amd64 >> ad8 is a 3TB Seagate on nforce4-ultra controller >> >> At boot: >> ad8: 2861588MB > at ata4-master UDMA100 SATA 3Gb/s >> DEBUG g_part_gpt.c gpt_read_hdr() ad8 succeeded with pp->>sectorsize=512 >> >> An hour later: >> # dd if=/dev/ad8 bs=4k count=1 of=/dev/null >> dd: /dev/ad8: No such file or directory >> >> BUT: there was no "ad8: FAILURE - device detached" or similar message >> on the console, in dmesg, or in /var/log/*. The disk just disappeared >> without a peep from the kernel. What's going on? Frank writes: > Is this repeatable? Does it appear when you reboot and then vanish > after a period of time? The disk reappeared after a reboot, and is still there working fine (both read and write) after over 21 hours. > At boot, what does "atacontrol list" say, Before reboot: ATA channel 4: Master: no device present Slave: no device present After reboot: ATA channel 4: Master: ad8 Serial ATA II Slave: no device present (It shouldn't even report a slave for the SATA ports, since SATA doesn't *have* slaves.) > and what about before and after you've tried to read from the drive? No change, even after being up over 21 hours. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 5 15:14:47 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 402D7C46; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 15:14:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david.i.noel@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wi0-x232.google.com (mail-wi0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c05::232]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A3B392255; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 15:14:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wi0-f178.google.com with SMTP id j17so1651888wiw.17 for ; Mon, 05 Aug 2013 08:14:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=UlxdS2V3gUVtn4qloofdE1oFkqVi6koT0W/T8COxXC0=; b=CQ+BgFm4wp90OPT7MMWzSZpnV2ON8P6u74IypUx4UoFF35xp0yVL5nCr+88QfCMW/T ddNl1xc+foEyMySxF4tPwdmPjmzbQ4tuqhtMp3CkyuT8oF0TSEICMCaV3Yc3TnCyXqSn CH74J2iHupJe/T9ChBgXi0kmkZaCq264aTBaVnZQE6E02wZyae5z3AHTy6PvC5712VAh Ru4qOGxa0z0AIVG/9YqqakFCiPYtgq2l+kEc7lnHNXLajeA8RZOP3yuS1PBNLrawD/Y1 QEbQdTlStrHjp1K/wSYIkcLNp4Ea4rVWzgxiVUG86WYc38z3eYnOqX/RMcJvcXUuaSyP 52lw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.206.164 with SMTP id lp4mr7186433wic.1.1375715684896; Mon, 05 Aug 2013 08:14:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.217.2.141 with HTTP; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 08:14:44 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <51FFADB4.2040103@freebsd.org> References: <51FF5F70.7020205@freebsd.org> <51FFADB4.2040103@freebsd.org> Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2013 10:14:44 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Update /usr/src with subversion From: David Noel To: Matthew Seaman Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: David.I.Noel@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2013 15:14:47 -0000 Thanks, guys! On 8/5/13, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 05/08/2013 14:22, Warren Block wrote: >>> Your solution looks a bit cleaner than the one proposed there: "rm -r >>> /usr/src/.svn, and then check out the new branch". >>> >>> I'll check out the man for svn switch. >> >> The new form is just 'svn relocate': >> http://forums.freebsd.org/showpost.php?p=224243&postcount=5 > > Just to be clear: > > 'svn relocate' is the new form for 'svn switch --relocate', used to > change the servers or the protocol (or both) used to access the > repository. > > 'svn switch' (without the --relocate argument) is still valid and is > used to switch between branches within the repo. > > It's just 'svn switch --relocate' which is deprecated. > > Cheers, > > Matthew > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 5 15:16:45 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E99CFD19; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 15:16:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david.i.noel@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wi0-x22a.google.com (mail-wi0-x22a.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c05::22a]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 57FA7227D; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 15:16:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wi0-f170.google.com with SMTP id hi8so1671920wib.5 for ; Mon, 05 Aug 2013 08:16:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=ijzBysfMbH6kBx5Xxcl4wnUEgXDRXCu4WRwG7WJYIOE=; b=Mi6wIu37UP2vrxl8Ogwe9kPJk/lsNbPesKscOL2cZi8Vm+eos6bi3TyXLMPjRSraDv +MPiYaDnYjAx+Xgc3NUR1N7djTamwq3KCy83LTwzkBRT+7rcilLKyNgheISHQtN2YfK8 MLW6Gg0115zI9e8STb2QYQsM27n8F+BZLkHmwOcR5GgSv9DNfXfbnlIsjvhrlHJpljRl 4aUqWnqFVMWujmG7dkXDpKTdIc428/ToS2RSFHAmT+1dXHgFu7V6rABvFqKnPNmSs/9D ndafiZzQoMA3ja4Ih8gQRltE7OKm7fLN59UqZOoxOE4fimPOZ7DkLg4KRp2mRNcLgIaB m+rA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.182.67 with SMTP id ec3mr7140683wic.1.1375715803629; Mon, 05 Aug 2013 08:16:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.217.2.141 with HTTP; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 08:16:43 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <51FF5F70.7020205@freebsd.org> <51FFADB4.2040103@freebsd.org> Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2013 10:16:43 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Update /usr/src with subversion From: David Noel To: Matthew Seaman Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: David.I.Noel@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2013 15:16:46 -0000 On 8/5/13, David Noel wrote: > Thanks, guys! > > On 8/5/13, Matthew Seaman wrote: >> On 05/08/2013 14:22, Warren Block wrote: >>>> Your solution looks a bit cleaner than the one proposed there: "rm -r >>>> /usr/src/.svn, and then check out the new branch". >>>> >>>> I'll check out the man for svn switch. >>> >>> The new form is just 'svn relocate': >>> http://forums.freebsd.org/showpost.php?p=224243&postcount=5 >> >> Just to be clear: >> >> 'svn relocate' is the new form for 'svn switch --relocate', used to >> change the servers or the protocol (or both) used to access the >> repository. >> >> 'svn switch' (without the --relocate argument) is still valid and is >> used to switch between branches within the repo. >> >> It's just 'svn switch --relocate' which is deprecated. Ooops. Top-posted. I always forget. Does anyone know how to change the default "reply" behavior of gmail? Last I searched the only way to do it was with a greasemonkey script... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 5 15:24:12 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 678ABFAC for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 15:24:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feld@FreeBSD.org) Received: from out1-smtp.messagingengine.com (out1-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3A57822DB for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 15:24:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from compute3.internal (compute3.nyi.mail.srv.osa [10.202.2.43]) by gateway1.nyi.mail.srv.osa (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3D5A210CD for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 11:24:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web3 ([10.202.2.213]) by compute3.internal (MEProxy); Mon, 05 Aug 2013 11:24:05 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=message-id:from:to:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding:content-type:in-reply-to:references :subject:date; s=smtpout; bh=Got0A6aThrrllf5wua7jXdVHFjg=; b=Evz 5kuH9SqNjUzHaWR3JZPGjAE6SPRhgQgz+7boIF9d9Hj4oj5Mxl3RjoFSCwFavPjP 3edcszLhL85CffCHIVu0AUwrO36i4W4/ed6e6zDLyElRcOs3nevF41qn2wOIIheW gHMFZLQ3sjJ4VOCng3N9Y4a9VH8Vjd6Gzf69kUpU= Received: by web3.nyi.mail.srv.osa (Postfix, from userid 99) id 9ED62B02158; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 11:24:05 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <1375716245.17838.6045575.3C7621DF@webmail.messagingengine.com> X-Sasl-Enc: PLuywN5kSDD2Kb+GqdbJtLPXsG2TongFX5p+uiCqBIQx 1375716245 From: Mark Felder To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface - ajax-2d520484 In-Reply-To: References: <51FF5F70.7020205@freebsd.org> <51FFADB4.2040103@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Update /usr/src with subversion Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2013 10:24:05 -0500 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2013 15:24:12 -0000 On Mon, Aug 5, 2013, at 10:16, David Noel wrote: > > Ooops. Top-posted. I always forget. Does anyone know how to change the > default "reply" behavior of gmail? Last I searched the only way to do > it was with a greasemonkey script... > Google still hasn't figure out how to bottom post. Can you imagine how awful their internal emails are? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 5 18:15:41 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 430F8F0F for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 18:15:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from me@staticsafe.ca) Received: from uriel.asininetech.com (uriel.asininetech.com [IPv6:2607:5300:60:e3a::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 059C52DCE for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 18:15:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uriel.asininetech.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1B25E0A83 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 14:15:31 -0400 (EDT) X-DKIM: OpenDKIM Filter v2.6.8 uriel.asininetech.com E1B25E0A83 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=staticsafe.ca; s=2013; t=1375726531; bh=AUqTo1ZMkqPiDxSmo8IzrqL4owjqanri6hwqW+JTyCQ=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To; b=uomItTDAEALN5Sp6y46vfML6Q/BTH6aBX5ebK9PfRCzhsvXtA8JmVx2UnT7CQYTA/ Wh35grtuUASgUdxReKzlc+D75dk8XzKMvtMAkKFwJ3DbM49TzZxmAd/fvMFbT8gofp MLcsaRYjqfb66ex52zmbIgPV7xcYUy2fMrkSTft4= Received: from uriel.asininetech.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (uriel.asininetech.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6n7hm7-zQizH for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 14:15:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from uriel.asininetech.com (uriel.asininetech.com [IPv6:2607:5300:60:e3a::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by uriel.asininetech.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 28D35E054B for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 14:15:31 -0400 (EDT) X-DKIM: OpenDKIM Filter v2.6.8 uriel.asininetech.com 28D35E054B DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=staticsafe.ca; s=2013; t=1375726531; bh=AUqTo1ZMkqPiDxSmo8IzrqL4owjqanri6hwqW+JTyCQ=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To; b=uomItTDAEALN5Sp6y46vfML6Q/BTH6aBX5ebK9PfRCzhsvXtA8JmVx2UnT7CQYTA/ Wh35grtuUASgUdxReKzlc+D75dk8XzKMvtMAkKFwJ3DbM49TzZxmAd/fvMFbT8gofp MLcsaRYjqfb66ex52zmbIgPV7xcYUy2fMrkSTft4= Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2013 14:15:29 -0400 From: staticsafe To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Update /usr/src with subversion Message-ID: <20130805181529.GB7548@uriel.asininetech.com> References: <51FF5F70.7020205@freebsd.org> <51FFADB4.2040103@freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2013 18:15:41 -0000 On Mon, Aug 05, 2013 at 10:16:43AM -0500, David Noel wrote: > Ooops. Top-posted. I always forget. Does anyone know how to change the > default "reply" behavior of gmail? Last I searched the only way to do > it was with a greasemonkey script... You can try using Gmail with a MUA, like mutt or Thunderbird. Gmail supports IMAP and SMTP access. -- staticsafe O< ascii ribbon campaign - stop html mail - www.asciiribbon.org Please don't top post. Please don't CC! I'm subscribed to whatever list I just posted on. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 5 18:34:01 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EEA24F9 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 18:34:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from felix0930@me.com) Received: from nk11p03mm-asmtp001.mac.com (nk11p03mm-asmtpout001.mac.com [17.158.232.236]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66FE52F04 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 18:34:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.0.4] (unknown [119.129.151.154]) by nk11p03mm-asmtp001.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-27.07(7.0.4.27.6) 64bit (built Jun 21 2013)) with ESMTPSA id <0MR200EQIJFQIWC0@nk11p03mm-asmtp001.mac.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 05 Aug 2013 17:33:29 +0000 (GMT) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.10.8794,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2013-08-05_05:2013-08-05,2013-08-05,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=2 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1305010000 definitions=main-1308050157 References: <51FBD63F.7050403@growveg.net> <51FEB131.2030505@growveg.net> MIME-version: 1.0 (1.0) In-reply-to: <51FEB131.2030505@growveg.net> Content-type: text/plain; charset=GB2312 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Message-id: <760327CB-384B-42DC-BC69-BBB1297DDF15@me.com> X-Mailer: iPad Mail (10B329) From: felix zhao Subject: Re: virtualbox-ose fails to build on FreeBSD 9.2-BETA2 #0 r253698 Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2013 01:33:26 +0800 To: John Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2013 18:34:01 -0000 How to svn to 9-stable, make world (etc)? How to delete all installed ports?= And then rm -rf /usr/local/*? Nice hints! Felix =B7=A2=D7=D4=CE=D2=B5=C4 iPad =D4=DA 2013-8-5=A3=AC3:53=A3=ACJohn =D0=B4=B5=C0=A3=BA= > On 02/08/2013 16:54, John wrote: >> Hello list, >>=20 >> I'm trying to install virtualbox on a new machine running >> FreeBSD 9.2-BETA2 #0 r253698. The ports version is 324162. Is it a >> problem with the port or my machine? >=20 > This was fixed by: >=20 > commenting everything out of /etc/make.conf > svn to 9-stable, make world (etc) reboot > then deleting all installed ports > then removing everything from /usr/local > then rm -rf /usr/ports > portsnap > install svn then checkout ports > install virtualbox-ose >=20 > sorry for the noise > --=20 > John >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.or= g" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 5 18:45:10 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B24D718 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 18:45:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from mail-bk0-f49.google.com (mail-bk0-f49.google.com [209.85.214.49]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EF8782FB0 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 18:45:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-bk0-f49.google.com with SMTP id r7so1096295bkg.36 for ; Mon, 05 Aug 2013 11:45:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-gm-message-state; bh=7fG53cbDLTuq7QRu8R/dH/kmqHW2AsJRHq1sMPdOn/U=; b=j4+nbSRBL3kROu7I8XGSbViBIozNoBobUTvFag+RspW1aqyNswY08nbwQsemJWOgE8 iZGy2ITwt+8e3YsoXGe9QbSVEdpQ+AfPIs/u0hjJikd3xBkxM7ZfGkF9e5i+I37FlNw4 G3JID15HfXF9ZiLvJGlAMfNB/5/OapnZPx1iozLX7FsB9I39kcJaUoPl6T0zGy8Twvar MiQhUEsdCb5pMme0jA/y+HxgHQqyA/mfg2mJ2Q02hCjeCTDRsV2LkfvvstCC3PhJZSDP K9WaRtCph8YAHbIyHARWP1P0/SUBYLwaTet0ZBR4oqZUtz/TmdiSGK23PToLSgSnfzOS CW4g== X-Received: by 10.204.162.12 with SMTP id t12mr3104879bkx.67.1375728302079; Mon, 05 Aug 2013 11:45:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phenom.cordula.ws (p5DDDB093.dip0.t-ipconnect.de. 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(I'm not talking about Xorg etc, just a simple console with FreeBSD base system would suffice for now -- even NetBSD would be great) I'm looking for a Tablet PC that runs Linux/arm (not just Android), and it would be nice if that model was also able to run FreeBSD; and if not now, so in the foreseeable future. Any suggestions w.r.t. models? 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From: Adam Vande More To: cpghost Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 Cc: FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2013 21:05:58 -0000 On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 1:44 PM, cpghost wrote: > Hello list, > > what's the status of FreeBSD/arm w.r.t. Tablet PCs? > Is there ANY tablet out there that managed to at > least boot FreeBSD? (I'm not talking about Xorg etc, > just a simple console with FreeBSD base system would > suffice for now -- even NetBSD would be great) > > I'm looking for a Tablet PC that runs Linux/arm (not > just Android), and it would be nice if that model was > also able to run FreeBSD; and if not now, so in the > foreseeable future. > > Any suggestions w.r.t. models? > All I can recall was this thread(read whole thing): http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2012-November/246404.html -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 5 21:07:08 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 162E3B45 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 21:07:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pa0-x230.google.com (mail-pa0-x230.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c03::230]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E402C286A for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 21:07:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pa0-f48.google.com with SMTP id kp13so3725477pab.7 for ; Mon, 05 Aug 2013 14:07:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=wgJZqcJrYYWnPz2PnJMWsrZXzecDqmgRhBq3weS6mkg=; b=diBDNy3mvaBTuddRP9KHIbYyIj44E/OnIUMtvNyyWh9c06i4ymH+iVGyMi/ATrKP36 tRZm0vpEhmrwp1CGiNslrVgDoTnCV5bbCy4jQ+2oB/+zZDVz1gaxS9ddWpCMEGd2C+9A zVjr8hu+k+8ptBqAXr/biteM/aHH1Wv9QuUzNxNpiomjpSe/CwluKD2uqiLjo3b1PaOY fowDHQy1JL4lHU/S7M7B3g2dRSrrPMfbMb1HBrE9zo4QYERMsGn6vPXwuOVjBWG5Zixd uIVkE0p2deqJmoQtmiYuk9KHmCAgVhE8GJxMMDLozXk3eRRPERYHKFHgT5g6voykanZR C3Ug== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.68.136.168 with SMTP id qb8mr20200407pbb.83.1375736827647; Mon, 05 Aug 2013 14:07:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.88.74 with HTTP; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 14:07:07 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <51FFF2A8.5050201@cordula.ws> Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2013 16:07:07 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Tablet PCs and FreeBSD? From: Adam Vande More To: cpghost Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 Cc: FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2013 21:07:08 -0000 On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 4:05 PM, Adam Vande More wrote: > > On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 1:44 PM, cpghost wrote: > >> Hello list, >> >> what's the status of FreeBSD/arm w.r.t. Tablet PCs? >> Is there ANY tablet out there that managed to at >> least boot FreeBSD? (I'm not talking about Xorg etc, >> just a simple console with FreeBSD base system would >> suffice for now -- even NetBSD would be great) >> >> I'm looking for a Tablet PC that runs Linux/arm (not >> just Android), and it would be nice if that model was >> also able to run FreeBSD; and if not now, so in the >> foreseeable future. >> >> Any suggestions w.r.t. models? >> > > All I can recall was this thread(read whole thing): > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2012-November/246404.html > Also asking on freebsd-arm might get you farther. -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 6 01:03:18 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9D1C123 for ; Tue, 6 Aug 2013 01:03:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from anthonyce@stpeter.com.ph) Received: from pmx.stpeter.com.ph (stpeter.com.ph [124.106.103.116]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CDC720A1 for ; Tue, 6 Aug 2013 01:03:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pmx.stpeter.com.ph (pmx.stpeter.com.ph [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id 3E66E3987E5 for ; Tue, 6 Aug 2013 08:39:25 +0800 (PHT) Received: from Anthonyitd (unknown [192.168.5.25]) by pmx.stpeter.com.ph (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94AEF3987DC for ; Tue, 6 Aug 2013 08:39:24 +0800 (PHT) From: "John Anthony C. 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