Date: Thu, 28 Dec 1995 11:48:13 -0800 From: "Amancio Hasty Jr." <hasty@rah.star-gate.com> To: sos@FreeBSD.org Cc: jkh@time.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard), msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au, jdli@linux.csie.nctu.edu.tw, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: syscons driver Message-ID: <199512281948.LAA01792@rah.star-gate.com> In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 28 Dec 1995 20:08:21 %2B0100." <199512281908.UAA14316@ra.dkuug.dk>
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>>> sos@FreeBSD.org said: > In reply to Jordan K. Hubbard who wrote: > > > > > What gui toolkit - where - where - show me, maybe it could save me > > > writing some 1000's lines of code :) :) > > > > I'll go hunting around, but I believe it's another hack.. I looked > > at it about a year ago and went "Ewww. This was designed by somebody > > who'd never seen a GUI before!" > > Oh well, thought so, but one can never know right.. > > I think the main reasons we dont see all those nifty GUI based apps, is > 1. we dont have the nessesary (easy to use) tools > 2. what we have is based on X which have its own set of problems > 3. there has been no other "simplistic" approach to this before (that I > know of) > First of, we got to have people willing to write apps 8) X by itself is okay -- hard to use however it is flexible enough so that we can build wrappers around it to make the job easier. tcl/tk has generated a few GUI tools which make it easier to write tools yet I have not seen hardly any native freebsd apps. So lets see the general progression: X, tcl/tk, InterViews, motif . Granted all the tools have something wrong with them however one would think that by now many cool FreeBSD apps would have been written with the existing tool base. Perhaps, what we need more than yet another wonderful GUI tool is a set of goals or ideas for people to work on ... Amancio
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