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Date:      Wed, 22 Aug 2012 10:09:15 -0700
From:      =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Gezeala_M=2E_Bacu=F1o_II?= <gezeala@gmail.com>
To:        Alan Cox <alc@rice.edu>
Cc:        alc@freebsd.org, freebsd-performance@freebsd.org, Andrey Zonov <andrey@zonov.org>, kib@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: vm.kmem_size_max and vm.kmem_size capped at 329853485875 (~307GB)
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On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 4:24 PM, Alan Cox <alc@rice.edu> wrote:
> On 8/20/2012 8:26 PM, Gezeala M. Bacu=F1o II wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 9:07 AM, Gezeala M. Bacu=F1o II <gezeala@gmail.c=
om>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 8:22 AM, Alan Cox <alc@rice.edu> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 08/18/2012 19:57, Gezeala M. Bacu=F1o II wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 12:14 PM, Alan Cox<alc@rice.edu>  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 08/17/2012 17:08, Gezeala M. Bacu=F1o II wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 1:58 PM, Alan Cox<alc@rice.edu>   wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> vm.kmem_size controls the maximum size of the kernel's heap, i.e.,
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> region where the kernel's slab and malloc()-like memory allocators
>>>>>>>> obtain
>>>>>>>> their memory.  While this heap may occupy the largest portion of t=
he
>>>>>>>> kernel's virtual address space, it cannot occupy the entirety of t=
he
>>>>>>>> address
>>>>>>>> space.  There are other things that must be given space within the
>>>>>>>> kernel's
>>>>>>>> address space, for example, the file system buffer map.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ZFS does not, however, use the regular file system buffer cache. T=
he
>>>>>>>> ARC
>>>>>>>> takes its place, and the ARC abuses the kernel's heap like nothing
>>>>>>>> else.
>>>>>>>> So, if you are running a machine that only makes trivial use of a
>>>>>>>> non-ZFS
>>>>>>>> file system, like you boot from UFS, but store all of your data in
>>>>>>>> ZFS,
>>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>>> you can dramatically reduce the size of the buffer map via boot
>>>>>>>> loader
>>>>>>>> tuneables and proportionately increase vm.kmem_size.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Any further increases in the kernel virtual address space size wil=
l,
>>>>>>>> however, require code changes.  Small changes, but changes
>>>>>>>> nonetheless.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Alan
>>>>>>>>
>>> <<snip>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Your objective should be to reduce the value of "sysctl
>>>>>> vfs.maxbufspace".
>>>>>> You can do this by setting the loader.conf tuneable "kern.maxbcache"
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> desired value.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What does your machine currently report for "sysctl vfs.maxbufspace"=
?
>>>>>>
>>>>> Here you go:
>>>>> vfs.maxbufspace: 54967025664
>>>>> kern.maxbcache: 0
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Try setting kern.maxbcache to two billion and adding 50 billion to the
>>>> setting of vm.kmem_size{,_max}.
>>>>
>> 2 : 50 =3D=3D>> is this the ratio for further tuning
>> kern.maxbcache:vm.kmem_size? Is kern.maxbcache also in bytes?
>>
>
> No, this is not a ratio.  Yes, kern.maxbcache is in bytes. Basically, for
> every byte that you subtract from vfs.maxbufspace, through setting
> kern.maxbcache, you can add a byte to vm.kmem_size{,_max}.
>
> Alan
>

Great! Thanks. Are there other sysctls aside from vfs.bufspace that I
should monitor for vfs.maxbufspace usage? I just want to make sure
that vfs.maxbufspace is sufficient for our needs.



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