Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2016 14:51:55 +0300 From: Beeblebrox <zaphod@berentweb.com> To: "O. Hartmann" <ohartmann@walstatt.org> Cc: "freebsd-x11@freebsd.org" <freebsd-x11@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: End of year Xorg status rant Message-ID: <20161231145143.18e6ac99@rsbsd.rsb> In-Reply-To: <20161231120453.13adf858@thor.walstatt.dynvpn.de> References: <20161230163653.54909631@rsbsd.rsb> <15952279f17.e0be0d8c34357.732964216134709731@nextbsd.org> <20161231120453.13adf858@thor.walstatt.dynvpn.de>
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Oliver: I agree 100% with you. I'm a desktop user and chose FreeBSD because I find the sysadmin tasks on L= inux unbearable. My use as it seems to be yours is primarily for data analy= sis. However what use to me (or any desktop user) is a solid & rock-steady = base system if, for all practical purposes, the Desktop is unusable? > I think we face a political problem, not so much a man-power-driven one I'm sure the Foundation and developers have been debating whether to drop d= esktop all together and only focus on server-side, which I would have no pr= oblem with and would just migrate to some other OS. The problem as you stat= ed is that this half-assed approach is not working. Put simply, the choices= are: A. Drop all Xorg related ports, kernel modules and move on or B. Seriously go after creating a decent (I don't need fantastic) desktop ex= perience We all know what option A would mean for the future of FreeBSD, but not my = call. If all else fails, I'm afraid I must agree with: > Time to change paradigm, time to change OS ... Matthew: Thanks for the info. > .. the great work you've done as the major comitter to this project First off, personal thanks even if I don't benefit from it directly. > If you care about Radeon I would welcome contributions to its upkeep. > Unfortunately, the intersection set between people who care about > radeonkms and those attending to its upkeep is currently empty. I'll take a look, but I just don't have the coding experience/knowledge. I'= d have to travel pretty far to get to the point where my contributions woul= d be productive for either side :(( Regards. --=20 FreeBSD_amd64_11-Stable_RadeonKMS Please CC my email when responding, mail from list is not delivered.
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