From owner-freebsd-chat Fri Mar 29 0:13:57 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from postfix3-2.free.fr (postfix3-2.free.fr [213.228.0.169]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3169737B417 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 00:13:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from bluerondo.a.la.turk (nas-cbv-6-150-4.dial.proxad.net [62.147.150.4]) by postfix3-2.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBEBE17F37 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 09:13:51 +0100 (CET) Received: (qmail 1763 invoked by uid 1001); 29 Mar 2002 08:13:49 -0000 Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 09:13:49 +0100 From: Rahul Siddharthan To: Brad Knowles Cc: Pete Ehlke , chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: qmail (Was: Maintaining Access Control Lists ) Message-ID: <20020329081349.GA1737@lpt.ens.fr> References: <20020328203704.GA760@lpt.ens.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.27i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Brad Knowles said on Mar 29, 2002 at 01:24:00: > > I found the following: > > http://cr.yp.to/qmail/knowles.html (I assume the original comment here > > was tongue-in-cheek...) > > http://cr.yp.to/qmail/warfield.html > > http://cr.yp.to/qmail/jackson.html > > http://cr.yp.to/qmail/venema.html... > > Cool! I rank up there with Wietse? Excellent! Actually, Wietse is linked from his main pages, I don't think you are :) Well, I use qmail and other DJB stuff myself, and like it. (No idea about its security and performance and all, my needs are modest, but I found it was easy to set up and extremely well documented.) I also agree with him that if you accuse him, on a public mailing list, of ignoring bug reports/security holes, you should say what they are. The only one I'm aware of, which Wietse pointed out years ago and continues to harp on, is the memory exhaustion thing, which in Dan's opinion is the job of the operating system and not the MTA (though I guess he should have fixed his docs to discuss the problem, at least). And his license is a problem too, of course -- this was #17 on your list of complaints. But he doesn't forbid redistribution of source code and he doesn't forbid distribution of patches, so it's really a problem only for binary distributors like Red Hat... R To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message