From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Jun 18 06:07:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA28134 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 06:07:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from sos.freebsd.dk (sos.freebsd.dk [212.242.40.180]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA28076; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 06:07:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sos@sos.freebsd.dk) Received: (from sos@localhost) by sos.freebsd.dk (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA22009; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 15:06:36 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from sos) Message-Id: <199806181306.PAA22009@sos.freebsd.dk> Subject: Re: X-10 Mouse Remote patch In-Reply-To: <19980618083321.B5383@ct.picker.com> from Randall Hopper at "Jun 18, 98 08:33:21 am" To: rhh@ct.picker.com (Randall Hopper) Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 15:06:36 +0200 (CEST) Cc: sos@FreeBSD.ORG, nirva@ishiboo.com, yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp, hasty@rah.star-gate.com, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG From: Søren Schmidt Reply-to: sos@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In reply to Randall Hopper who wrote: > Sren Schmidt: > |In reply to Randall Hopper who wrote: > |> I have noticed that the spurious events seem to only be mouse button or > |> motion events. So I plan to look for a cheap serial port ISA board to plug > |> in and just give MouseRemote its own serial port. I know that works fine > |> as I ran that way originally. Then I won't care about the mouse event > |> noise. > | > |This sounds like one of the most crappy PC hardware implementations > |I've heard about, the mouse/keyboard interface is bad enough as > |it is. I'm actually against putting this mess into moused/syscons. > > Not being an RF engineer, I can't speak to that. Could be that there's a > lot of crap around 300Mhz in urban areas or that's emitted by household > appliances -- I don't know. Or it could be just Danny's place and my apt. > (I have a lot of electronics around the computer). > > So maybe a bad choice of frequency by X-10, assuming they had much of a > choice. Or bad filtering on the RF receiver. Beats me. > > The piece in moused doesn't have anything to do with this RF > interference/filtering issue -- no hacks in the code, so IMO there should > be no problem with having the support in there. I didn't mean RF problems or anything with the X-10 hardware, but having it communicate TOGETHER with the mouse is a real bad idea, to put it on the PS/2 mouse port is insane, that is the crappy enginnering I'm talking about (I wouldn't even call it engineering).... And it has NO business in moused whatsoever, its a hack and it doesn't belong there. I'm sorry I havn't noticed this before, but its should be ripped out ASAP, I would never have allowed it in there if I had found out before. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Søren Schmidt (sos@FreeBSD.org) FreeBSD Core Team Even more code to hack -- will it ever end? .. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message