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Date:      Fri, 12 Jun 2015 02:41:55 -0700
From:      Mehmet Erol Sanliturk <m.e.sanliturk@gmail.com>
To:        mayuresh@kathe.in
Cc:        Matthew Pherigo <hybrid120@gmail.com>,  FreeBSD Questions Mailing List <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: randall hyde's high level assembly!
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On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 11:37 PM, Mayuresh Kathe <mayuresh@kathe.in> wrote:

> On 2015-06-12 11:24, Mehmet Erol Sanliturk wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 10:45 PM, Mayuresh Kathe <mayuresh@kathe.in>
>> wrote:
>>
>>  On 2015-06-12 11:04, Mehmet Erol Sanliturk wrote:
>>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 9:29 PM, Mayuresh Kathe <mayuresh@kathe.in>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> hi matthew,
>>>
>>> no luck, I got the following message;
>>> root@www:~ # pkg install hla
>>> Updating FreeBSD repository catalogue...
>>> FreeBSD repository is up-to-date.
>>> All repositories are up-to-date.
>>> pkg: No packages available to install matching 'hla' have been
>>> found in the repositories
>>>
>>> `uname -a` gives me the following;
>>> FreeBSD www.kathe.in [1] [1] 10.1-RELEASE-p10 FreeBSD
>>> 10.1-RELEASE-p10
>>> #0: Wed May 13 06:54:13 UTC 2015
>>> root@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC
>>> amd64
>>>
>>> `freebsd-version` gives me the following;
>>> 10.1-RELEASE-p11
>>>
>>> anything i might be doing wrong?
>>>
>>> ~mayuresh
>>>
>>> On 2015-06-12 09:26, Matthew Pherigo wrote:
>>> Hey Mayuresh,
>>>
>>> There's actually a port in the tree already! 'pkg install hla'
>>>
>>> --Matt
>>>
>>> On Jun 11, 2015, at 5:52 AM, Mayuresh Kathe <mayuresh@kathe.in>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> has anyone been successful at working with randall hyde's high
>>> level assembly toolkit under freebsd 10.x?
>>> http://www.plantation-productions.com/Webster/ [2] [2] claims to
>>> have a
>>> pre-built archive, but one that fails to assemble the binaries. :(
>>>
>>> ~mayuresh
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>>
>>> Is hla able to generate 64-bit machine code for amd64 ?
>>>
>>> It seems that it is for 32-bits , i.e. i386 .
>>>
>>
>>  i have been able to run and test 'hla' under amd64 systems running
>> ubuntu.
>>  any particular reason why it will not run under freebsd 64-bit?
>>  one of the things that could be a problem might be the "assembler"
>> itself, i couldn't find "gas" or an equivalent under freebsd.
>>
>>  ~mayuresh
>>
>> Can you use Nasm ?
>>
>> CD /USR/PORTS/DEVEL/NASM
>> MAKE INSTALL
>>
>> http://forum.nasm.us/index.php?topic=3D1283.0 [3]
>>
>
> thanks for that tip mehmet, much appreciate it.
>
> i hadn't known about "nasm", looking it up led me to a book on assembly
> language programming by jeff duntemann, which seems to be a lot more
> realistic than the one by randall hyde.
>
> again, thanks a million mehmet. :)
>
> ~mayuresh
>
>


64 bits operating systems are different from 32 bits operating systems .

During working with assemblers , it is necessary to distinguish this
feature .

In a 64 bits operating system , if 32 bits programs will be used , it is
necessary to have 32 bits libraries and support by the operating system .

This means that you can not execute 32 bits programs in a 64 bits operating
system without such support .


In the following page :

http://www.duntemann.com/assembly.html

read

"If You Have a 64-Bit PC..."


the especially .


"64-Bit PC" is misleading : It should be "64-Bit Operating System" .


Both Intel and AMD x86 processors mainly support both 32 and 64 bit
operating systems : They are able to execute 32 and 64 bit instructions .

Therefore , important points are bit size of ( 32 or 64 ) operating system
, and handling capability of this feature by compilers and availability of
libraries , and support by the operating system .


It is necessary to have information about 64 bit assembly programming in an
64 bit operating system .

http://www.amazon.com/Introduction-Intel-Assembly-Language-Programming/dp/1=
478119209/ref=3Dpd_sim_14_1?ie=3DUTF8&refRID=3D15NZ1SBWCZAMH1X6KPZG



Introduction to 64 Bit Intel Assembly Language Programming for Linux:
Second Edition Paperback =E2=80=93 June 23, 2012
by Benjamin Ray Seyfarth (Author)




Thank you very much .


Mehmet Erol Sanliturk



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