From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Feb 14 12:32:18 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40A59232E9E for ; Fri, 14 Feb 2020 12:32:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from markand@malikania.fr) Received: from smtp.smtpout.orange.fr (smtp04.smtpout.orange.fr [80.12.242.126]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "Bizanga Labs SMTP Client Certificate", Issuer "Bizanga Labs CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48Jt7457DYz4WXY for ; Fri, 14 Feb 2020 12:32:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from markand@malikania.fr) Received: from postfix.malikania.fr ([5.135.187.121]) by mwinf5d27 with ME id 2cYE2200D2dbEiD03cYEJ1; Fri, 14 Feb 2020 13:32:14 +0100 X-ME-Helo: postfix.malikania.fr X-ME-Auth: ZGVtZWxpZXIuZGF2aWRAb3JhbmdlLmZy X-ME-Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2020 13:32:14 +0100 X-ME-IP: 5.135.187.121 Received: from [167.3.108.158] (unknown [77.159.242.250]) by postfix.malikania.fr (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8219E1751E for ; Fri, 14 Feb 2020 13:32:14 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: Technological advantages over Linux To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20200214121620.GA80657@admin.sibptus.ru> From: David Demelier Message-ID: <89a55b95-f8cb-caef-44ef-7c8f6a4f36b2@malikania.fr> Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2020 13:32:14 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20200214121620.GA80657@admin.sibptus.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Language: fr Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48Jt7457DYz4WXY X-Spamd-Bar: +++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of markand@malikania.fr has no SPF policy when checking 80.12.242.126) smtp.mailfrom=markand@malikania.fr X-Spamd-Result: default: False [3.93 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.88)[0.883,0]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.93)[0.932,0]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[126.242.12.80.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[malikania.fr]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:3215, ipnet:80.12.240.0/20, country:FR]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(1.22)[ip: (2.82), ipnet: 80.12.240.0/20(1.59), asn: 3215(1.68), country: FR(0.00)]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[126.242.12.80.rep.mailspike.net : 127.0.0.17] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2020 12:32:18 -0000 Le 14/02/2020 à 13:16, Victor Sudakov a écrit : > Not to start a flame war. A purely technical question: what > technological advantages does the modern FreeBSD have over modern Linux? In short: - Jails ; - ZFS ; - Simplicity (not always the case though). Type mount on a fresh FreeBSD and a fresh Linux and admire that. Also applies to initial processes ; - Documentation (not the best though, OpenBSD has the best doc out there) but all BSD have the most well documented stuff ; - pf ; - poudriere ; - src.conf, make.conf and easy world rebuild ; - LLVM instead of GCC. But, not to denigrate Linux, also places where Linux kicks FreeBSD: - ACPI ; - ACPI ; - ACPI ; - Laptop support ; - ACPI ; - Modern features (or modern... I mean even the touchpad does not work out of the box usually): Wayland is still buggy ; - Speed ; - And, ACPI. > Several yeas ago I would say ZFS was a killer feature, but now Linux has > ZFS too, and AFAIK FreeBSD is going to migrate to Linux's ZFS > implementation. Linux has unofficial ZFS support, it's not in the kernel and it's a real mess. HTH, -- David