From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 3 07:43:36 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2C8316A41F for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2005 07:43:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from avatar4d@gmail.com) Received: from xproxy.gmail.com (xproxy.gmail.com [66.249.82.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0179D43D5A for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2005 07:43:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from avatar4d@gmail.com) Received: by xproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id s9so485064wxc for ; Wed, 02 Nov 2005 23:43:25 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Efk/4ijmd+IY+aUDUx6nIH4r5oaJ1Iphr1TOgVWf2Bmh9MwAHaONOGC4uwjkd3w3SLI8oyGLakFIoBlTM382WhN6RO3byCrhkEAH7Q0uGBX8g5SFeInKEbhzx04DzqJZyZfe9AtrQlOkEvUOv0lyVFT03Vzd4os1YGWfovJSvL8= Received: by 10.70.117.16 with SMTP id p16mr185668wxc; Wed, 02 Nov 2005 18:37:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.65.20 with HTTP; Wed, 2 Nov 2005 18:37:19 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <17489c7a0511021837v1bcf1cd4r586cf022f09f249b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2005 21:37:19 -0500 From: Chad Gross To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20051102120038.60FD416A425@hub.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <20051102120038.60FD416A425@hub.freebsd.org> Subject: Re: freebsd-advocacy Digest, Vol 124, Issue 3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2005 07:43:36 -0000 I am glad I am not the only one. This logo is in no way, shape, or form better for FreeBSD compared to the last logo. I mean honestly. I am a marketing professional and I do not see the "progress" either. I too enjoy the advancement of FreeBSD when it is actual progress. And I agree with the above poster, does the logo really need changing? Maybe it just needs some new marketers... I mean a Fedora, a Penguin, and a Gecko have been working for Linux. And as a Christian I don't feel that the old logo was offensive either. At least it had character. Anyway, just an opinion of a user since 4.0. Chad M. Gross Executive Team Trainer On 11/2/05, freebsd-advocacy-request@freebsd.org wrote: > Send freebsd-advocacy mailing list submissions to > freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > freebsd-advocacy-request@freebsd.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > freebsd-advocacy-owner@freebsd.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of freebsd-advocacy digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: New Logo (stheg olloydson) > 2. Re: New Logo (Roger 'Rocky' Vetterberg) > 3. Linux/Mac OS X Systems Programmer Consultant Needed > (Darlene Forsythe) > 4. Re: Linux/Mac OS X Systems Programmer Consultant Needed > (Greg 'groggy' Lehey) > 5. RE: Linux/Mac OS X Systems Programmer Consultant Needed > (Darlene Forsythe) > 6. Re: New Logo (Joshua Tinnin) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 14:04:11 -0800 (PST) > From: stheg olloydson > Subject: Re: New Logo > To: stanb@panix.com > Cc: "freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org" , > "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" > Message-ID: <20051101220411.53839.qmail@web32710.mail.mud.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Diso-8859-1 > > it was said by stanb: > > >YUK!!!!!!!!! > > > >-- > >U.S. Encouraged by Vietnam Vote - Officials Cite 83% Turnout > >Despite Vietcong Terror > >- New York Times 9/3/1967 > > Look on the bright side! Everyone expected this to turn out > badly, and they got more than they expected. Way more. > > shudders, > > stheg > > > > > > __________________________________ > Start your day with Yahoo! - Make it your home page! > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2005 23:39:49 +0100 > From: "Roger 'Rocky' Vetterberg" > Subject: Re: New Logo > To: stheg olloydson > Cc: "freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org" , > stanb@panix.com > Message-ID: <4367EEB5.6050400@401.cx> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3DISO-8859-1; format=3Dflowed > > stheg olloydson wrote: > > it was said by stanb: > > > >> YUK!!!!!!!!! > >> > >> -- > >> U.S. Encouraged by Vietnam Vote - Officials Cite 83% Turnout > >> Despite Vietcong Terror > >> - New York Times 9/3/1967 > > > > Look on the bright side! Everyone expected this to turn out > > badly, and they got more than they expected. Way more. > > > > shudders, > > > > stheg > > > > Speak for yourself! > I had great expectations, and I'm very pleased to see the result. > Congratulations to core and the winner of the contest for a job > well done. > > 'Everyone' does not have a problem with FreeBSD trying to make > progress. I know a lot of people do, but far from everyone. > > -- > R > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 17:43:00 -0800 > From: "Darlene Forsythe" > Subject: Linux/Mac OS X Systems Programmer Consultant Needed > To: > Message-ID: > <6A12D33C65D36A4C974AF7E7DF0F377101FB7211@happy2.omneon.local> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" > > Good evening, > > > > I thought that I might ask this group if anyone has a referral for a > consultant with the following skills: > > > > If interested, please feel free to contact me > > > > Darlene Forsythe, PHR > > Staffing Consultant > > Phone: 408-585-5115 > > Email: dforsythe@omneon.com > > Web Site: www.omneon.com > > > > > > > > > > Linux/Mac OS X Systems Programmer > > > > > > Project Description: > > Omneon filesystem client port to Macintosh OS X Operating System > > > > The project requires porting the Linux-based Omneon filesystem client to > > the Macintosh OS X operating system. This includes all functionality > > featured in the Linux version. The final software must operate as a > > networked filesystem under the OS X kernel. A performance goal of > > 40 megabytes per second for file copy operations is required. > > > > Additional work products include detailed project schedule, status > reports, > > design documentation, an installation and de-installation system for the > > filesystem module, and documentation describing how to install, use and > > de-install the filesytem module. > > > > > > Skills required: > > - OS X or FreeBSD/Mach kernel development experience > > - Network systems programming > > - Filesystem development > > - Excellent communication and documentation skills > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2005 12:28:28 +1030 > From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey > Subject: Re: Linux/Mac OS X Systems Programmer Consultant Needed > To: Darlene Forsythe > Cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org > Message-ID: <20051102015828.GS56043@wantadilla.lemis.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"us-ascii" > > On Tuesday, 1 November 2005 at 17:43:00 -0800, Darlene Forsythe wrote: > > > > I thought that I might ask this group if anyone has a referral for a > > consultant with the following skills: > > This list is for advocacy, not jobs. There's a specific mailing list > for jobs, called, well, jobs@FreeBSD.org. You're likely to find > interesting candidates there. > > Greg > -- > See complete headers for address and phone numbers. > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: not available > Type: application/pgp-signature > Size: 187 bytes > Desc: not available > Url : http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-advocacy/attachments/200= 51102/30052b4d/attachment-0001.bin > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 18:01:14 -0800 > From: "Darlene Forsythe" > Subject: RE: Linux/Mac OS X Systems Programmer Consultant Needed > To: "Greg 'groggy' Lehey" > Cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org > Message-ID: > <6A12D33C65D36A4C974AF7E7DF0F377101FB721A@happy2.omneon.local> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" > > I apologize for emailing this group..... I have posted to the jobs > listing. I appreciate your help! > > Darlene > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey [mailto:grog@FreeBSD.org] > Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 5:58 PM > To: Darlene Forsythe > Cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Linux/Mac OS X Systems Programmer Consultant Needed > > On Tuesday, 1 November 2005 at 17:43:00 -0800, Darlene Forsythe wrote: > > > > I thought that I might ask this group if anyone has a referral for a > > consultant with the following skills: > > This list is for advocacy, not jobs. There's a specific mailing list > for jobs, called, well, jobs@FreeBSD.org. You're likely to find > interesting candidates there. > > Greg > -- > See complete headers for address and phone numbers. > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 19:48:38 -0700 > From: Joshua Tinnin > Subject: Re: New Logo > To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org > Cc: stanb@panix.com, stheg olloydson > Message-ID: <200511011948.51372.krinklyfig@comcast.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"us-ascii" > > On Tue 1 Nov 05 15:39, "Roger 'Rocky' Vetterberg" > wrote: > > stheg olloydson wrote: > > > it was said by stanb: > > >> YUK!!!!!!!!! > > >> > > >> -- > > >> U.S. Encouraged by Vietnam Vote - Officials Cite 83% Turnout > > >> Despite Vietcong Terror > > >> - New York Times 9/3/1967 > > > > > > Look on the bright side! Everyone expected this to turn out > > > badly, and they got more than they expected. Way more. > > > > > > shudders, > > > > > > stheg > > > > Speak for yourself! > > I had great expectations, and I'm very pleased to see the result. > > Congratulations to core and the winner of the contest for a job > > well done. > > > > 'Everyone' does not have a problem with FreeBSD trying to make > > progress. I know a lot of people do, but far from everyone. > > Progress !=3D a new logo. I am always happy to see FreeBSD make progress. > I have no problem with the idea of a new logo, but my hopes were not > high, given that it became a controversial subject. I wasn't going to > say anything, but honestly, I don't like it that much. It looks a bit > dated for an update, and it doesn't do well in black on white - the > font is too thin (and way too art-deco/euro-like) and doesn't seem to > have much to do with the "head" icon. In fact the head and wording seem > as if they were put together as an afterthought. And what's with the > sateen/silk background? Looks like a velvet painting, which is sorta > groovy in a kitchy way, but I don't think that was the intention. > > I don't mean to hurt anyone's feelings, and it looks like some work went > into it, but it's too trendy to be memorable and have staying power, > and it's too far behind-the-curve to be trendy. It looks like it's > trying too hard ... I dunno. Just that I get the feeling it will have > to be updated soon to look "modern" again, and it might be better for > FreeBSD to go with a more "classic" look that can withstand changes in > trends. Some logos never have to be - and never should be - updated > (again, I don't think this is one of them), and that's a better idea > for the long run. Just MHO. > > - jt > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-advocacy-unsubscribe@freebsd.or= g" > > > End of freebsd-advocacy Digest, Vol 124, Issue 3 > ************************************************ >