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Date:      Wed, 2 Nov 2005 21:37:19 -0500
From:      Chad Gross <avatar4d@gmail.com>
To:        freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: freebsd-advocacy Digest, Vol 124, Issue 3
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I am glad I am not the only one. This logo is in no way, shape, or
form better for FreeBSD compared to the last logo. I mean honestly. I
am a marketing professional and I do not see the "progress" either. I
too enjoy the advancement of FreeBSD when it is actual progress. And I
agree with the above poster, does the logo really need changing? Maybe
it just needs some new marketers... I mean a Fedora, a Penguin, and a
Gecko have been working for Linux. And as a Christian I don't feel
that the old logo was offensive either. At least it had character.
Anyway, just an opinion of a user since 4.0.

Chad M. Gross
Executive Team Trainer



On 11/2/05, freebsd-advocacy-request@freebsd.org
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>    1. Re: New Logo (stheg olloydson)
>    2. Re: New Logo (Roger 'Rocky' Vetterberg)
>    3. Linux/Mac OS X Systems Programmer Consultant Needed
>       (Darlene Forsythe)
>    4. Re: Linux/Mac OS X Systems Programmer Consultant Needed
>       (Greg 'groggy' Lehey)
>    5. RE: Linux/Mac OS X Systems Programmer Consultant Needed
>       (Darlene Forsythe)
>    6. Re: New Logo (Joshua Tinnin)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 14:04:11 -0800 (PST)
> From: stheg olloydson <stheg_olloydson@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: New Logo
> To: stanb@panix.com
> Cc: "freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org" <freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org>,
>         "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
> Message-ID: <20051101220411.53839.qmail@web32710.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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> it was said by stanb:
>
> >YUK!!!!!!!!!
> >
> >--
> >U.S. Encouraged by Vietnam Vote - Officials Cite 83% Turnout
> >Despite Vietcong Terror
> >- New York Times 9/3/1967
>
> Look on the bright side! Everyone expected this to turn out
> badly, and they got more than they expected. Way more.
>
> shudders,
>
> stheg
>
>
>
>
>
> __________________________________
> Start your day with Yahoo! - Make it your home page!
> http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2005 23:39:49 +0100
> From: "Roger 'Rocky' Vetterberg" <listsub@401.cx>
> Subject: Re: New Logo
> To: stheg olloydson <stheg_olloydson@yahoo.com>
> Cc: "freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org" <freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org>,
>         stanb@panix.com
> Message-ID: <4367EEB5.6050400@401.cx>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3DISO-8859-1; format=3Dflowed
>
> stheg olloydson wrote:
> > it was said by stanb:
> >
> >> YUK!!!!!!!!!
> >>
> >> --
> >> U.S. Encouraged by Vietnam Vote - Officials Cite 83% Turnout
> >> Despite Vietcong Terror
> >> - New York Times 9/3/1967
> >
> > Look on the bright side! Everyone expected this to turn out
> > badly, and they got more than they expected. Way more.
> >
> > shudders,
> >
> > stheg
> >
>
> Speak for yourself!
> I had great expectations, and I'm very pleased to see the result.
> Congratulations to core and the winner of the contest for a job
> well done.
>
> 'Everyone' does not have a problem with FreeBSD trying to make
> progress. I know a lot of people do, but far from everyone.
>
> --
> R
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 17:43:00 -0800
> From: "Darlene Forsythe" <dForsythe@Omneon.com>
> Subject: Linux/Mac OS X Systems Programmer Consultant Needed
> To: <freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org>
> Message-ID:
>         <6A12D33C65D36A4C974AF7E7DF0F377101FB7211@happy2.omneon.local>
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>
> Good evening,
>
>
>
> I thought that I might ask this group if anyone has a referral for a
> consultant with the following skills:
>
>
>
> If interested, please feel free to contact me
>
>
>
> Darlene Forsythe, PHR
>
> Staffing Consultant
>
> Phone: 408-585-5115
>
> Email: dforsythe@omneon.com
>
> Web Site: www.omneon.com <http://www.omneon.com/>;
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Linux/Mac OS X Systems Programmer
>
>
>
>
>
> Project Description:
>
> Omneon filesystem client port to Macintosh OS X Operating System
>
>
>
> The project requires porting the Linux-based Omneon filesystem client to
>
> the Macintosh OS X operating system.  This includes all functionality
>
> featured in the Linux version.  The final software must operate as a
>
> networked filesystem under the OS X kernel.  A performance goal of
>
> 40 megabytes per second for file copy operations is required.
>
>
>
> Additional work products include detailed project schedule, status
> reports,
>
> design documentation, an installation and de-installation system for the
>
> filesystem module, and documentation describing how to install, use and
>
> de-install the filesytem module.
>
>
>
>
>
> Skills required:
>
> - OS X or FreeBSD/Mach kernel development experience
>
> - Network systems programming
>
> - Filesystem development
>
> - Excellent communication and documentation skills
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2005 12:28:28 +1030
> From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey <grog@FreeBSD.org>
> Subject: Re: Linux/Mac OS X Systems Programmer Consultant Needed
> To: Darlene Forsythe <dForsythe@Omneon.com>
> Cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org
> Message-ID: <20051102015828.GS56043@wantadilla.lemis.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"us-ascii"
>
> On Tuesday,  1 November 2005 at 17:43:00 -0800, Darlene Forsythe wrote:
> >
> > I thought that I might ask this group if anyone has a referral for a
> > consultant with the following skills:
>
> This list is for advocacy, not jobs.  There's a specific mailing list
> for jobs, called, well, jobs@FreeBSD.org.  You're likely to find
> interesting candidates there.
>
> Greg
> --
> See complete headers for address and phone numbers.
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> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 18:01:14 -0800
> From: "Darlene Forsythe" <dForsythe@Omneon.com>
> Subject: RE: Linux/Mac OS X Systems Programmer Consultant Needed
> To: "Greg 'groggy' Lehey" <grog@FreeBSD.org>
> Cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org
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> I apologize for emailing this group..... I have posted to the jobs
> listing.  I appreciate your help!
>
> Darlene
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey [mailto:grog@FreeBSD.org]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 5:58 PM
> To: Darlene Forsythe
> Cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org
> Subject: Re: Linux/Mac OS X Systems Programmer Consultant Needed
>
> On Tuesday,  1 November 2005 at 17:43:00 -0800, Darlene Forsythe wrote:
> >
> > I thought that I might ask this group if anyone has a referral for a
> > consultant with the following skills:
>
> This list is for advocacy, not jobs.  There's a specific mailing list
> for jobs, called, well, jobs@FreeBSD.org.  You're likely to find
> interesting candidates there.
>
> Greg
> --
> See complete headers for address and phone numbers.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 19:48:38 -0700
> From: Joshua Tinnin <krinklyfig@comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: New Logo
> To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org
> Cc: stanb@panix.com, stheg olloydson <stheg_olloydson@yahoo.com>
> Message-ID: <200511011948.51372.krinklyfig@comcast.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain;  charset=3D"us-ascii"
>
> On Tue 1 Nov 05 15:39, "Roger 'Rocky' Vetterberg" <listsub@401.cx>
> wrote:
> > stheg olloydson wrote:
> > > it was said by stanb:
> > >> YUK!!!!!!!!!
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> U.S. Encouraged by Vietnam Vote - Officials Cite 83% Turnout
> > >> Despite Vietcong Terror
> > >> - New York Times 9/3/1967
> > >
> > > Look on the bright side! Everyone expected this to turn out
> > > badly, and they got more than they expected. Way more.
> > >
> > > shudders,
> > >
> > > stheg
> >
> > Speak for yourself!
> > I had great expectations, and I'm very pleased to see the result.
> > Congratulations to core and the winner of the contest for a job
> > well done.
> >
> > 'Everyone' does not have a problem with FreeBSD trying to make
> > progress. I know a lot of people do, but far from everyone.
>
> Progress !=3D a new logo. I am always happy to see FreeBSD make progress.
> I have no problem with the idea of a new logo, but my hopes were not
> high, given that it became a controversial subject. I wasn't going to
> say anything, but honestly, I don't like it that much. It looks a bit
> dated for an update, and it doesn't do well in black on white - the
> font is too thin (and way too art-deco/euro-like) and doesn't seem to
> have much to do with the "head" icon. In fact the head and wording seem
> as if they were put together as an afterthought. And what's with the
> sateen/silk background? Looks like a velvet painting, which is sorta
> groovy in a kitchy way, but I don't think that was the intention.
>
> I don't mean to hurt anyone's feelings, and it looks like some work went
> into it, but it's too trendy to be memorable and have staying power,
> and it's too far behind-the-curve to be trendy. It looks like it's
> trying too hard ... I dunno. Just that I get the feeling it will have
> to be updated soon to look "modern" again, and it might be better for
> FreeBSD to go with a more "classic" look that can withstand changes in
> trends. Some logos never have to be - and never should be - updated
> (again, I don't think this is one of them), and that's a better idea
> for the long run. Just MHO.
>
> - jt
>
>
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